tbf Blade was always lacking in clearing speed power (he is built for longevity instead, its just current endgame doesnt cater for his strengths) and you can't possibly expect to clear the same way newer DPS do. If you invest in older chars you can still clear with Blade within 1 cycle no sustain or 2 cycle with sustain. So you either spend jades to pull new DD or you spend to buff old DD. And remember Blade sig support (HP based harmony) isnt out yet.
@@BelialRus What alot of people don't understand is that Blade actually would perform better with ruan mei, pela and bronya/sparkle because of damage dilution. Mine hit's 900k follow up attacks on 5 targets and 400k+ single target ults so even though I go less I still do more damage so it doesn't matter.
Honestly kinda depressing. That feeling at the end is gonna be what make people drop the game. All that work only for us to feel like we're back at square one when they powercreep the end game. I didn't even pull for Acheron or Feixiao so I'm feeling it pretty hard too sighhh
@@ekswaizee I personally think its more of the "achievement" than anything, sometimes its more than just the jades. its a whole goal to see your account progress and this could definetly stunt someone's mental no matter what jades you get from it.
I also quit playing HSR because my seele with sig and blade with sig are basically useless now that I got acheron and Firefly,Rappa they basically clear MOC with trash relics and no sig lightcones Making me look like a clown for pulling both blade and seele sig lightcones it hits hard because I'm a F2p I can't get every LC like whales and low spenders do for better experience So I uninstalled HSR and returned to genshin natlan update is pretty fun to explore and I don't care about clearing endgame content since I can clear it pretty ez with my old characters so not gonna pull for HSR meta and instantly get powercrept the next patch
@@kimihikokimizuka2165yeah the powercreep/ hp inflation is getting too insane like hyper investing in any dps will literally hurt your account in the long run I watched a video from braxophone abt jingliu and his C6 jingliu was doing acheron s1 and feixiao s1:amounts of dmg
Enemies have way too much HP and new relic sets just don't provide enough damage upgrade to keep up. You would think they still want to sell 1.0 units when their reruns come up, but at the pace enemy hp is scaling no one will want them unless they literally give them away for free.
Atp the only 1.x Limited units that haven't been powercrept and are still viable are Kafka, Topaz, Huohuo, and Ruan Mei. And even then, only Ruan Mei remains as a MUST pull, the other three, your account would be completely fine if you skipped them.
@@ggmaliki every unit u mentioned except topaz has been powercrept in a way. Anyway its obv that units will be powercrept otherwise there would be no reason to pull for anyone, the question is will hoyo manage to make supports that can help each characters unique kit out. Jingyuan is getting sunday and then potentially other summon supports, blade can easily get hp supports, and kafka can get actual dot units. Jingliu and Seele are the only ones that dont really have an obv support to make them strong, but both have something unique in their kit that can be used.
One of my favorite memories from hsr is pulling Blade on my birthday with the jades I got in the mail, I even got his lightcone on his rerun, he's my second favorite unit right after Jing Yuan. Watching this is just depressing. I hate that powercreep reached the point where using your favorite character just scratches the enemy and all you can do is hope for a dedicated support to come out. I really think they should go back and buff older characters if we're not even two years into the game and powercreep is already this bad. And before anyone says anything about how it's not profitable, making a few quick changes to old characters can get newer players to pull for them and it's way cheaper than making a character from scratch. If that was the case I'd even pull for an eidolon or two since my Blade is already fully built and I won't have to spend time farming relics like I would with a new unit
Its sad seeing people who genuinely like a character like you do not being able to use them just because of how dumb powercreeping is, at least jing yuan will get buffed, so there's still hope
It’s a shame hoyo refuses to buff characters for 3 reasons 1) Chinese cyber protection laws 2) they did it in genshin and ended up making a character op and they couldn’t make them balanced because of reason 1 3) they don’t care, new stronger characters attract wales who will spend 60 times the amount you will and that’s like 70% of their profit. Really annoys me because some characters were released when hoyo thought 200% attack scaling was overpowered on a burst now we have 860% scaling and higher.
All your favourite characters are the ones that fell off the hardest. Please tell me which other characters are your favourites so I can avoid fumbling my account 😭
Hopefully we'll get some type of "unique upgrade" or "unique relic" for some older DPS's in the future, i know it's a thing in other gachas and i know hoyo could do it.
Jing Yuan has been getting "upgrade" Relic sets for god knows how many times and next patch he'll get a support that can advance his lightning snailord. Seele and Dhil got sparkle for their support. However we haven't gotten much for jingliu and barely anything for blade which is rather strange for me. Not to mention Argenti...
The question is; why the hell would they do it? You already spent jades, or even money on Blade and his vertical investment, you ain’t getting them back. It doesn’t make sense from a corporate standpoint (I’m not saying I don’t want this, I would love to have some kind of Seele prime of blade prime that buffs their multipliers so they don’t just completely die in this massive hp creep)
@@pally3370 them buffing older chara could put them on pedestal against genshin, zzzz, and wuwa, especially with decent amount of player quitting since superbreak (granted they also get a lot of new player). It also allow more income from rerun banner, and they could even start selling more banner per patch with old chara getting buffed.
Some Gameplay tips that combined might save you a Cycle: Blade gets Action advance effects after using his E cause it counts as him using his turn. Moments like 4:19, You cast Bronya and get a stronger EBA Watch out for Blades Skill Buff Falling off between turns, If he loses the buff and gets a FUA or You cast Ult it can go from 160K single target (3:35) to 158K total (2 targets) (5:35) Either way, this is Rough. Your dedication is admirable, I really hope this kinda HP Creep doesn't ruin the game
Yea the 4:19 trick I think I do it later, but didn’t in that instance. Good catch! Don’t think this saves a cycle though, I was off by quite a large margin.
This same development did even cost Acheron a tier. In only 6 to 7 months power creep has progressed enough to make her clears feel a lot worse. At her release you could comfortably 3-cycle with pela, guinafen, and the presavation MC if you felt a little adventageous. Now I can be happy to that same 3-cycle with her premiere team and her Lightcone. I got that same power only in the moment when I upgraded her to E2. Only than it felt like it is her release again. That E2 allows me to use Sparkle a lot more effectively. Sure Acheron is still going to have a long shelf life. And future supports will help her to stay relevant longer. The biggest glaring issue with Blade is that he scales with HP and to this day there is no support support other than Fu Xuan who increases HP a lot. Most other DPS have huge access to either Attack or Break Effect. They get the stat they scale with in spades. But not so with HP. Honestly it is a shame that such a cool character like Blade is stuck. With older characters they should give their Eidolons at a discount or in order not to piss off those who paid hard cash, unlock a second upgrade tree that is not as powerful as the Eidolons but is accessible for free through an invent. Giving Blade the chance to raise his ceiling and at least be able to play the game at A tier level. That move also would make his Eidolons more attractive again. But right now you would be out of your mind to pull those.
They are not gonna do it. Hoyoverse just doesn't care about buffing old units. And it actually is not great, but people will spend for the newest character. From a design standpoint, I cannot see how the design team, who built the kits for these characters are actually happy with what they did. Especially to Blade, YQ and Seele. They have it rough. E0 Clara and JL are more useful. They made some bad decisions, and just cover it up with better characters. I like HSR, but I might quit sooner rather than later. I've been farming the new domain, haven't gotten even 2 pieces that are good for a hyper carry yet. It's just gonna get worse. If you aren't spending, you can't keep up. And now they increase MoC HP by way too much
@slimstrait780 Usually devs make a character the way they like it and during testing or slightly before the management steps in. This where all the sudden nerfs happen. Especially when they move entire portions of the kit into an Eidolon. They only see the money and therefore shittify a kit on purpose. Especially the early characters have to be dog water so that newer ones can power creep them quickly. Refreshed
"unlock a 2nd upgrade tree" hoyo: we heard lightning lord moves too slow fans: make him go if he's at 10stacks, make him not stop if jy is stunned, etc hoyo: how about you pull Sunday instead, that duo is practically acheron tier now we aint ever getting that secondary progression system...
Happy people are feeling it harder and complaining. We just want to have fun feel tangible progression. Imagine farming for half a year straight (which could vary massively on luck), getting 90percentile gear for your dream party and realizing it's even worse than it used to be. Like what the fucking what? Now that's a sign of something wrong. I could understand that party performing just as good a year later with 50% better gear, but much worse? Huh? And to imagine that 6months coulda taken 2-4x longer depending on luck (gear grinding is an endless black whole with no tangible hope or feeling of progression, which is getting better mind you, but still not really)
This MoC has got to be by far the worst one for a blade hypercarry 💀 my sparkle, bronya, robin, no matter what harmony just keeps getting CCed by the mech wolf, and then Svarog snatches my blade because he's got Yunli LC aggro, I'm in so much pain
What really sucks as a Blade main is that when you finally get him to do this kind of dmg and feel proud about it, you then realize he has an essay's worth of buffs and does less dmg then your Acheron who has a singular buff
I might just have skill issue but it took me 10 cycles to clear with Acheron (no fox guy that I cant spell the name of) and heavily invested Firefly so I do think the moc's are getting a little crazy especially since I heard they nerfed this one right before it launched
Can confirm, running him with a full E6S5 team, him being E6S1 as well... He just can't keep up. Even MoC11 has been ~1 cycle the last two MoCs. Himeko actually out performs him in MoC now, when I run different teams for fun. It's a shame, but HP scaling hasn't had it's day in the meta yet... If it ever will, might change things for him.
Aw man, that team-building took a ton of effort, maybe the new rumored harmony support will help buff him? I think theres some hp scaling stuff being added soon based on leaks (coping rn)
Apparently that tribbie girl isn't a harmony built for HP units, she's actually made for the new herta💔 At least there's castorice who will actually synergize with HP consumers fellas such as mydei and blade, so there still is hope
Genshin could never.....have this level of powercreep. Jealous of them kinda. Hu tao and xiao are 1.0 dps that are still meta relevant. Yeah they got powercreeped by the newer dps, but with the proper investment they still pop off. Not the case in HSR.
In genshin case, they went waaaaaay too dank when making xingque and bennet kit. Take those 2 out of equation and boom, powercreep (and xiangling too i guess)
@@ixirion Ye, but even out of these top DPS, only Neuvilette is competition for the Big 5. People are desperate for Mauvika to powercreep Xiangling. But if the leaks are accurate, that doesn't appear to be the case.
@@CommentPositionInformer im actually so depressed about this, im using dehya atm because I don't want to run xiangling- i skipped nahida c1 under the assumption that mavuika would never be the 100th damn pyro dps.... i was wrong...
I have no idea what the hell Hoyo have been doing with MoC I feel like I have a pretty stacked account but my FART team is struggling. As a player should you really have to pull every banner 5star and their sig’s just to clear the content? It feels like such a massive leap from the last one too
I feel this man, even though I love Acheron and Feixiao to death, I really miss using my Blade and Jingliu for endgame or just battles in general. I enjoy their playstyles a lot and the HP inflation is genuine garbage, makes me so sad
This is so sad. I love Blade, he was released in patch 1.2 (around 3 months of the game release) and since then his gameplay just fall more and more. We need desperately an HP dmg% buffer, just like JingYuan will "revive" in the next patch with Sunday. But yeah, the powercreep of this game (in the new characters taking over the "oldest" and the hardness added to the late game modes) is destroying the enjoyment of the players' gameplay. I used Blade with a normal team (blade + sparkle + pela + huohuo) and a good build in MOC 8 (not even 11 or 12 lmao) and did it in 5 cycles...
To me HP inflation means Hoyo is making a point that if you like a character that’s not meta then you should focus on E6S5-ing that unit. If E6S5-ing a unit you love is not enough to make them relevant then all you can do is hope for a new synergistic unit.
You're wrong lol. HP inflation just means get the latest character or you'll have a hard time/be unable to clear. E6S5 Jingliu took 5 cycles to clear the previous MOC by the way. And yes, the PREVIOUS MOC. Not even the current one where the HP has increased even more.
@ That’s why I had included the portion at the end saying if the character still can’t clear fast enough with E6S5 then I think they will begin to release synergistic units for those that are having trouble such as Sunday. Hopefully earlier units like Blade and Seele can also benefit from future units, I’m not really sure if Seele benefits greatly by being on a Feixiao team but these are just examples. After E6S5, look for synergistic future units, I think this is Hoyo’s goal. I’m definitely not saying this is the way things should be and I don’t agree with Hoyo. But to them I believe the thought process is: while you’re waiting for future units to be synergistic with the old ones you love, you should be saving all your summons to have enough to pull the E6S5 (Jingyuan) and have enough for the new unit (Sunday), granted you barely take your account horizontal. Of course no one could have predicted the synergy of Sunday and Jingyuan but now we know it’s possible. Old units have a chance of being relevant again through a new unit. They want you to keep summoning for new units but it looks like you’ll only need 1 new limited unit to make an old unit good again so I think this is their way of helping in a F2P sort of way. But of course it’s not the best solution. Sorry for the think piece lol would love to hear your thoughts though!
imo they will release meta hp related mechanics sometime in the future, maybe in version 3, that could elevate blade like jing yuan is elevated by sunday
I think the reality of it is that especially the older DPS just need Robin to keep up, I can see this team being a lot better with Robin instead of Ruan Mei due to the attack frequency, even if her attack buff is a bit wasted. Correct me if I'm wrong of course, I'm sure you have more experience playing Blade at the end of the day.
Damage wise, maybe. The problem is that Ruan Mei also acts as a "sustain" by increasing break efficiency and making the enemies stay broken much longer. Which is what lets him play sustainless in the first place. With Robin, breaking Svarog slower, staying broken shorter, she'd probably die. At least, that's what I think.
Robin can work too, but Ruan Mei provides a comfort factor like others mentioned where enemies break faster. That's how I made sure the wolves never did their dumb CC stuff, and made sure my units could stay alive long enough. Robin is theoretically higher damage if you can stay alive long enough.
try this again with using sacerdos set for bronya, you might not get the same speed but the 4 piece is pretty good for buffing other chracters and is currently the best in slot for bronya at the moment
I can feel those 6 months worth of grind just for a 2 cycle in your voice at the end, thats depressing. Hopefully Hoyo hears pur complains and reverts those HP number back a little, because the game not only needs to slow down, it needs to step back. This is ridiculous.
Anything under a 6-cycle for side a successful clear. Just cause older teams can't 0-2 turn clear that doesn't mean they are dead. Blade can very easily be mega-buffed once they add an HP scaling harmony unit.
Have you tried eagle set on blade with duran and jade i think march 7 works too lisara made a video on blade with no sustain and bronya sunday combo wich i think is insane definitely should try it out
I've have Blade and his lightcone since his release. It's a shame what powercreep does for so many beloved characters. Funny story to lighten the mood: there was this one time in DU where I was trying out the hardest difficulty and i was fighting a Something Unto Death and his self heals was the puzzle piece to winning lmao.
Honestly, the present MoC is just... depressing. Instead of inflating the enemy's health, why not make characters that are less overpowered? Although i could see some problems with it such as, players complaining why new units' perfomance arent that far from older units...
So much investment is required, farming for 6 months is no joke. makes me sad when youcan just pull a firefly and do a 0 cycle with barely 30 days of investment. and blade is my favourite charracter
I remember I was so Happy to pull for blade and I did everything to build him and his teams.. It makes me kind of sad that the powercreep it’s getting quite noticeable and bigger in the game, Also, For the thing that I really don’t have much new characters and all, I can’t really clear it with as fast as I’ll like. Let’s just hope they buff this characters. Can you make it with F2P teams? I want to know how quickly it could be.
Hsr with a well invested 1.x dps and has no specific support for his hp achertype yet clearing with 2 cycles = dissapointing Genshin with Xiao needing furina, bird girl, and faruzan to keep up = omg genshin has no powercreep so good
i mean, this build is impressive but there are easier ways to get 6 turns in one cycle without having to build so much speed. Using a -1spd bronya or preferably sunday along with robin is already 6 actions. if you run bronya sunday robin when you could get to 9 i think, and this is with ~135 spd on all your characters
I just used Feixaio and Firefly on every single level. Just like I did last month. Just like I did in MoC. Just like I did in Pure Fiction. Isn't power creep fun? :)
I get wanting to do Blade Hypercarry, but Blade solo has never been relevant, even on release. In my opinion, he has always felt like a dual DPS with Jingliu and now Jade to help add stacks fast. You have no one on the team doing any damage other than Blade, and that feels really bad. Even Jing Yuan and Argenti hypercarries have typically had a sub-DPS/support and they perform fine. Have you considered changing the units on the team? A Huo Huo or a Jade, if you have either, would certainly help a lot. Huo Huo for energy and true sustain, Jade as a sub-DPS/support to help drain Blade faster. Hell, even Acheron and Feixiao teams, every unit is doing something, not just buffing one unit
Like beliaplus said in Js_Edu’s comment thread, Blade is best for long battles. As we all know, Hoyoverse endgame content values speed. Now correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t most turn based RPGs do the opposite for end game? Like, for hard bosses, you’d be preparing before the battle, stocking up on items, and grinding levels cause you’re gonna be there for a long time. You’re supposed to be low on resources after a hard battle in most turn based RPGs, right? That being said, I find it strange that Star rail hasn’t a drawn out battle for endgame content yet (unless you consider SU endgame). The weekly bosses like Feixiao and Cocolia would be great for this concept. Matter of fact, if only stagnant shadow wasn’t scored on speed, it;d be perfect. Just give the bosses a lot of hp, give a certain buff to imply a specific strategy to win, and reward players on how much hp they take off the boss.
As a person with a 300k Criting QQ, (with sustain, I could do without, but I really want to use my Fu xuan.) I can say that units are getting kinda out of hand… It takes like 6 cycles for my QQ to kill svarog, which while my Units aren’t fully built. (Sunday has like lvl 4 traces.) is still kinda crazy… Powercreep might exist, but it also might be how the units are made. Blade hasn’t really gotten a lot of good buffs, neither has the old units, which can be attested to Powercreep, but also situations, like QQ, and the lack of good quantum weak units. (Blade is a Follow-up unit, so he isn’t really made for stuff like MOC anymore, being the most viable in PF.) Current units are more viable due to meta being focused around them, but how much they will benefit next patch will entirely depend on how next patch goes. We also have to remember that MOC 12 didn’t exists for a good bit, coming in around 1.5-2.0, so that’s something else to consider, which is considered more of a luxury than that of MOC 10, which we started the game with. Yeah, MOC will get harder, but it’s the challenge part of HSR. Will that take fun out for the casuals? Yeah, but being that many will pull for newer units, and or units like Sunday, I think it can balance itself out. (People have already said it best: what’s the point of grinding you ass off for 60 steller Jades? Unless your a perfectionist, or like to build characters most people aren’t going to do that, and even then, they still have to figure out their *Own* teams, like the tik tok kids running triple dps.) Powercreep might be real, but then rebalancing like Jing yuan is also real; If the devs make older units viable in a new meta shift, I think that would be cool, but if not, at least stay viable through things like new relics or insane buffs that affect that unit arcitype. QQ, my main, is still holding her own even tho she was released in 1.0, and she will only get stronger as time goes on. Before Rappa, and since robin’s release, she was doing 770k on ult against all 5 quantum weak characters, OUTSIDE OF SU AND MOC. (She was out capping my Acheron’s damage at the time, which was 700k on ult.) It’s a mix of meta shift, and Fomo, since a lot of newer players aren’t going to have blade, unless he releases again. While I say that powercreep is probably real, it’s not just that, and tbh, I’m just hoping that 1.0 characters will still be viable during amphoria, since I saw the new boss, and it looked like it had 5 mil hp, so help us god….
i think people take it waaaay too seriously and the MoC hp increase isnt that bad. you cant zero cycle anymore, so what? a 2 cycle clear is still fast, and its a clear regardless. and powercreep isnt even that bad, i used DoT, which is a damage archetype that is sadly not getting attention, and i cleared with 4 cycles the only thing that is getting affected by this hp increase is 0 cycles, and 90% of the player base doesnt do them, me included moc is absolutely fine
Ummm ... I hate to be that guy but have you considered you may be overvalueing (sorry if I spelled that wrong) speed? In 2 turns my blade does more dmg than yours does in 3 turns with a single harmony character on the team. This looks like a super fun playstyle but I think you shouldn't judge a character's value off a playstyle that isn't his best. 😢
Its okay As long as you can clear with 3 stars you are gtg. Its just the "I want to 0-cycle" thingy that I dont understand. Theres no achievement for this no?
rn 0 cycling is just the hardest achievable challenge you can give yourself that's entirely reliant on how well you build your characters and your gameplay, so naturally people who enjoy the game want to do it. Putting all this effort into something, only to realise it's literally mathematically impossible for blade to 0 cycle anymore because he just physically cannot do enough damage with how much hp has inflated, it's understandably demoralising
@@fats2010 Yeah but its not this big of a deal right? If your heavily invested dps cant clear MOC without 3 Staring it everywhere, this could be a big potential issue. 0 Cycling is just...an ego or flex challenge imo. There is no such achievement for it as well iirc. So in general, its not that big of a deal.
Можно попробовать заменить Жуань Мэй на Е1 Робин, так как вторая продвигает всю команду. На пару с продвижением Искры, Брони и DDD, это может сократить прохождение на 1 цикл. Когда выйдет Воскресенье, можно поставить его вместо Искры, так как его продвижение 100% и больше баффы. Или, если у Вас Е2 Искра, можно выкинуть Броню и поставить Е2 Воскресенье, чтобы Блэйд игнорировал 40% защиты врага (16%+24%). Но нужно считать и тестировать урон этих двух команд. Так сложно сказать, кто лучше
Looking at power creep logically I can’t say that power creep has been “too fast” especially since this is a Turn Based game where characters are heavily reliant on base kits and multipliers to become stronger. Blade since release (over a whole 2 years ago iirc… damn it’s been a long time) has been notoriously incredibly weak on his own. He was basically made for duo dps with Jingliu and now Jade, not solo play, at least when it comes to clear time. I agree that MoC HP inflation this time around was too much and heavily favored new units significantly more than I’m comfortable with I can’t exactly say it’s been too fast. MoC is technically an End Game mode where you need heavy investment in older characters and even heavier investment into their teams to clear unless you’ve got the newer and stronger unit. Being able to clear with one of the worst solo dps characters to have ever been released, who came out pretty soon after the games release, without any sub dps or dmg boosting gimmick mechanics in play (cough cough superbreak) in 2 cycles without a high cost team (cost = number of 5 star eidolons and lightcones used) is in my opinion proof that power creep in HSR is pretty well balanced when it comes to its speed
"Powercreep has been pretty well balanced" my ass. Sparkle got powercrept by Robin in 2 patches. And now E0S1 Sunday is outperforming E6S1 Sparkle. Open your eyes.
@@orangenoob2768 sparkle was made almost exclusively as a Mono Quantum and DHIL support though, very niche. Robin in mono quant kinda ruins the point of mono quant and robin needs to work alongside sparkle in DHIL teams, she cant do it alone. I'm not privy to the e0s1 sunday vs e6s1 sparkle thing you're talking about but i find it hard to believe that sparkle e6s1, providing 40%atk, 24% def pen, another skill point (again for those previously mentioned two teams cause shes meant to be a niche support) and a teamwide crit dmg buff based off of 64% of her own cdmg + 54 loses out to e0s1 sunday
That is why more and more people are tired and want to quit the game. Or at least they will not care about any endgame anymore and just play for the story. HSR has huge issue. When I'm trying to adress this I'm always attacked by some dumb morons with "waaa" or "skill issue" bs. HSR cry for variety of teams. If you can't play with your fav characters the game is just not fun. Now only Feixiao and break mains or meta slaves enjoying the game. Everyone else not really. Maybe if you invested a lot in Acheron like E2, Jiaoqiu ect. But at E0 without Jioqqiu Acheron is just mid af now. The game became a borefest where only 2-3 teams are usable and everything else is just instant ass if you don't own eidolons. With E6 supports you can still even use Hook the great and it's fine. But F2Ps are fucked. If you are not a meta slave you might struggle to even beat the content. You need every new shiny toy or you are out from the rat race. Powercreep is way too hard. It exist in Genshin too, but Genshin devs does powercreep in a good and healthy way. In HSR 4* has 0 purpose. We can argue about Tingyun, Pela, March, Moze or Galla. But if you have Sunday, Jiaoqiu, Topaz or Lingsha you will not even touch them ever again. In Genshin 4* are very important even now. Of course there is XL, XQ, Bennett. But Sucrose, Lisa, Sara, Beidou, Fischl, Keaya, Kachina, Ororon, Chev, Charlotte, Yanfei, Thoma and more and more are still very good options for some teams. You can easly beat any content with your fav characters and GI still make a lot of money. Of course you can still use your boring Neuv. But no one force you to do that. You have a lot of other options. Star Rail could NEVER.
You get me .. especially in discord (for me) .. there are people saying powercreept doesn't exist.. you just need higher investment to clear blah3 .. when the Soo called need higher investment to clear decent cycle is definitely not good .. I feel like I am talking to a people with no brain to think with a logic ..
You get me .. especially in discord (for me) .. there are people saying powercreept doesn't exist.. you just need higher investment to clear blah3 .. when the Soo called need higher investment to clear decent cycle is definitely not good .. I feel like I am talking to a people with no brain to think with a logic ..
such unrealistic expectations. of course you will be upset when you have no idea how these games work. following the meta and having your teams built properly is how you play the game, wanting to use your favorites in all modes all the time will require alot of investment either you are willing to spend or not and follow the meta. that sucks for a lot of people and its just not for you at that point and that should be fine if its that big of an issue and everyone quits they will make changes.
Blade is probably one of the worse to demonstrate this. His kit scaling and synergies are just bad. You could replace him with nearly anyone else and get the full benefits of the buffs. Jingyuan might not be the best but this is why he is viable. Regardless of HP pool (turbulence is MEANT to help out here) he’ll continue to drop.
I think the power creep is exactly what's needed. Blade is several things in one instead of focusing on one thing only like the best characters now, not to mention Jingliu Blade still is a crazy combo.
I like how the entirety of the complaints in the comments section is power creep ...following a showcase of Blade, a sub DPS ...in a 0 cycle. How much more disingenuous can you get with this? The end game is not meant to be 0-cycled. It never was, hence the literal 10 cycles they give you to full clear and several of the MoC buffs being after a cycle ends. Just because RUclipsrs solved the puzzle and found a way to cheese the game mechanics does not mean that's the norm. Just because you can't do that does not mean the power creep is so bad that the game is unplayable. All the comments are just people who don't know how to play the game parroting the same doomer mentality. Several comments were "I didn't pull for this and that DPS and now my account is bricked", almost like the game wants you to have multiple team comps with different elements/DPS archetypes... Like do you guys actually hear yourselves?
MoC hp inflation is depressing, it isn't fun anymore cause you can't clear without having the latest characters
They emergency nerf the moc 12 hp by 25% too btw doesn’t help that moc buff is ass too
tbf Blade was always lacking in clearing speed power (he is built for longevity instead, its just current endgame doesnt cater for his strengths) and you can't possibly expect to clear the same way newer DPS do. If you invest in older chars you can still clear with Blade within 1 cycle no sustain or 2 cycle with sustain. So you either spend jades to pull new DD or you spend to buff old DD. And remember Blade sig support (HP based harmony) isnt out yet.
@@BelialRus What alot of people don't understand is that Blade actually would perform better with ruan mei, pela and bronya/sparkle because of damage dilution. Mine hit's 900k follow up attacks on 5 targets and 400k+ single target ults so even though I go less I still do more damage so it doesn't matter.
@@Splinneewth 900k dmg with blade
i wanna see your build
You don't have eidolons right?
Honestly kinda depressing. That feeling at the end is gonna be what make people drop the game. All that work only for us to feel like we're back at square one when they powercreep the end game. I didn't even pull for Acheron or Feixiao so I'm feeling it pretty hard too sighhh
I cleared it with my DoT team and Himeko. Nothing to brag about
You miss out on 60/120 jades...it's really not a big deal
@@ekswaizee I personally think its more of the "achievement" than anything, sometimes its more than just the jades. its a whole goal to see your account progress and this could definetly stunt someone's mental no matter what jades you get from it.
I also quit playing HSR because my seele with sig and blade with sig are basically useless now that I got acheron and Firefly,Rappa they basically clear MOC with trash relics and no sig lightcones
Making me look like a clown for pulling both blade and seele sig lightcones it hits hard because I'm a F2p I can't get every LC like whales and low spenders do for better experience
So I uninstalled HSR and returned to genshin natlan update is pretty fun to explore and I don't care about clearing endgame content since I can clear it pretty ez with my old characters so not gonna pull for HSR meta and instantly get powercrept the next patch
@@kimihikokimizuka2165yeah the powercreep/ hp inflation is getting too insane like hyper investing in any dps will literally hurt your account in the long run I watched a video from braxophone abt jingliu and his C6 jingliu was doing acheron s1 and feixiao s1:amounts of dmg
Enemies have way too much HP and new relic sets just don't provide enough damage upgrade to keep up. You would think they still want to sell 1.0 units when their reruns come up, but at the pace enemy hp is scaling no one will want them unless they literally give them away for free.
Atp the only 1.x Limited units that haven't been powercrept and are still viable are Kafka, Topaz, Huohuo, and Ruan Mei. And even then, only Ruan Mei remains as a MUST pull, the other three, your account would be completely fine if you skipped them.
@@ggmaliki Dr. Ratio is viable as well even though powercrept by Feixiao
@@sutkonos I know that, which is why he wasn't mentioned. Same for Fu Xuan, DHIL, and Argenti.
@@ggmaliki every unit u mentioned except topaz has been powercrept in a way. Anyway its obv that units will be powercrept otherwise there would be no reason to pull for anyone, the question is will hoyo manage to make supports that can help each characters unique kit out.
Jingyuan is getting sunday and then potentially other summon supports, blade can easily get hp supports, and kafka can get actual dot units.
Jingliu and Seele are the only ones that dont really have an obv support to make them strong, but both have something unique in their kit that can be used.
@@ggmaliki dots are falling off the meta pretty quickly right now
One of my favorite memories from hsr is pulling Blade on my birthday with the jades I got in the mail, I even got his lightcone on his rerun, he's my second favorite unit right after Jing Yuan. Watching this is just depressing. I hate that powercreep reached the point where using your favorite character just scratches the enemy and all you can do is hope for a dedicated support to come out. I really think they should go back and buff older characters if we're not even two years into the game and powercreep is already this bad. And before anyone says anything about how it's not profitable, making a few quick changes to old characters can get newer players to pull for them and it's way cheaper than making a character from scratch. If that was the case I'd even pull for an eidolon or two since my Blade is already fully built and I won't have to spend time farming relics like I would with a new unit
Its sad seeing people who genuinely like a character like you do not being able to use them just because of how dumb powercreeping is, at least jing yuan will get buffed, so there's still hope
It’s a shame hoyo refuses to buff characters for 3 reasons
1) Chinese cyber protection laws
2) they did it in genshin and ended up making a character op and they couldn’t make them balanced because of reason 1
3) they don’t care, new stronger characters attract wales who will spend 60 times the amount you will and that’s like 70% of their profit.
Really annoys me because some characters were released when hoyo thought 200% attack scaling was overpowered on a burst now we have 860% scaling and higher.
The small girl in 3.1 is rumored to be good with blade.
Me too i really like him and i skipped loucha for him (first abundance 5* unit that time)
All he need is one Bis harmony unit hoyo please 😭
All your favourite characters are the ones that fell off the hardest.
Please tell me which other characters are your favourites so I can avoid fumbling my account 😭
Hopefully we'll get some type of "unique upgrade" or "unique relic" for some older DPS's in the future, i know it's a thing in other gachas and i know hoyo could do it.
Jing Yuan has been getting "upgrade" Relic sets for god knows how many times and next patch he'll get a support that can advance his lightning snailord. Seele and Dhil got sparkle for their support. However we haven't gotten much for jingliu and barely anything for blade which is rather strange for me. Not to mention Argenti...
@fairiz375 i don't think you understood what i quite meant here, i'm not talking about actual relic sets
The question is; why the hell would they do it? You already spent jades, or even money on Blade and his vertical investment, you ain’t getting them back. It doesn’t make sense from a corporate standpoint
(I’m not saying I don’t want this, I would love to have some kind of Seele prime of blade prime that buffs their multipliers so they don’t just completely die in this massive hp creep)
@@pally3370 them buffing older chara could put them on pedestal against genshin, zzzz, and wuwa, especially with decent amount of player quitting since superbreak (granted they also get a lot of new player). It also allow more income from rerun banner, and they could even start selling more banner per patch with old chara getting buffed.
no. I'd rather not start from scratch with relic farming for everyone. they're fumbling with star rail
Some Gameplay tips that combined might save you a Cycle:
Blade gets Action advance effects after using his E cause it counts as him using his turn. Moments like 4:19, You cast Bronya and get a stronger EBA
Watch out for Blades Skill Buff Falling off between turns, If he loses the buff and gets a FUA or You cast Ult it can go from 160K single target (3:35) to 158K total (2 targets) (5:35)
Either way, this is Rough. Your dedication is admirable, I really hope this kinda HP Creep doesn't ruin the game
Yea the 4:19 trick I think I do it later, but didn’t in that instance. Good catch! Don’t think this saves a cycle though, I was off by quite a large margin.
That would not save a cycle.
@@lunaRPG Touche.., There's only so much optimization that can make up for Hoyo plain screwing us over🥲
This same development did even cost Acheron a tier. In only 6 to 7 months power creep has progressed enough to make her clears feel a lot worse. At her release you could comfortably 3-cycle with pela, guinafen, and the presavation MC if you felt a little adventageous. Now I can be happy to that same 3-cycle with her premiere team and her Lightcone. I got that same power only in the moment when I upgraded her to E2. Only than it felt like it is her release again. That E2 allows me to use Sparkle a lot more effectively. Sure Acheron is still going to have a long shelf life. And future supports will help her to stay relevant longer.
The biggest glaring issue with Blade is that he scales with HP and to this day there is no support support other than Fu Xuan who increases HP a lot. Most other DPS have huge access to either Attack or Break Effect. They get the stat they scale with in spades. But not so with HP.
Honestly it is a shame that such a cool character like Blade is stuck. With older characters they should give their Eidolons at a discount or in order not to piss off those who paid hard cash, unlock a second upgrade tree that is not as powerful as the Eidolons but is accessible for free through an invent. Giving Blade the chance to raise his ceiling and at least be able to play the game at A tier level. That move also would make his Eidolons more attractive again. But right now you would be out of your mind to pull those.
They are not gonna do it.
Hoyoverse just doesn't care about buffing old units.
And it actually is not great, but people will spend for the newest character.
From a design standpoint, I cannot see how the design team, who built the kits for these characters are actually happy with what they did.
Especially to Blade, YQ and Seele. They have it rough.
E0 Clara and JL are more useful.
They made some bad decisions, and just cover it up with better characters.
I like HSR, but I might quit sooner rather than later.
I've been farming the new domain, haven't gotten even 2 pieces that are good for a hyper carry yet. It's just gonna get worse.
If you aren't spending, you can't keep up. And now they increase MoC HP by way too much
@slimstrait780 Usually devs make a character the way they like it and during testing or slightly before the management steps in. This where all the sudden nerfs happen. Especially when they move entire portions of the kit into an Eidolon. They only see the money and therefore shittify a kit on purpose. Especially the early characters have to be dog water so that newer ones can power creep them quickly. Refreshed
"unlock a 2nd upgrade tree"
hoyo: we heard lightning lord moves too slow
fans: make him go if he's at 10stacks, make him not stop if jy is stunned, etc
hoyo: how about you pull Sunday instead, that duo is practically acheron tier now
we aint ever getting that secondary progression system...
Happy people are feeling it harder and complaining. We just want to have fun feel tangible progression. Imagine farming for half a year straight (which could vary massively on luck), getting 90percentile gear for your dream party and realizing it's even worse than it used to be. Like what the fucking what? Now that's a sign of something wrong. I could understand that party performing just as good a year later with 50% better gear, but much worse? Huh? And to imagine that 6months coulda taken 2-4x longer depending on luck (gear grinding is an endless black whole with no tangible hope or feeling of progression, which is getting better mind you, but still not really)
This MoC has got to be by far the worst one for a blade hypercarry 💀 my sparkle, bronya, robin, no matter what harmony just keeps getting CCed by the mech wolf, and then Svarog snatches my blade because he's got Yunli LC aggro, I'm in so much pain
Loved it ❤ thanks for the showcase ✨.
This to me is more impressive than a 0 cycle clear with a new shiny 5*.
Stand proud u are strong 🗿
What really sucks as a Blade main is that when you finally get him to do this kind of dmg and feel proud about it, you then realize he has an essay's worth of buffs and does less dmg then your Acheron who has a singular buff
I might just have skill issue but it took me 10 cycles to clear with Acheron (no fox guy that I cant spell the name of) and heavily invested Firefly so I do think the moc's are getting a little crazy especially since I heard they nerfed this one right before it launched
I also cant clear with the same characters
Can confirm, running him with a full E6S5 team, him being E6S1 as well... He just can't keep up. Even MoC11 has been ~1 cycle the last two MoCs. Himeko actually out performs him in MoC now, when I run different teams for fun. It's a shame, but HP scaling hasn't had it's day in the meta yet... If it ever will, might change things for him.
Blade just needs HP support. Which we don’t have yet
Aw man, that team-building took a ton of effort, maybe the new rumored harmony support will help buff him? I think theres some hp scaling stuff being added soon based on leaks (coping rn)
Still pulling for blade, I love his story and design sm
Apparently that tribbie girl isn't a harmony built for HP units, she's actually made for the new herta💔
At least there's castorice who will actually synergize with HP consumers fellas such as mydei and blade, so there still is hope
@@黄泉-j6f ohh, thank you for letting me know!
Robin instead of Ruan Mei might be the true UBW, with triple AA team. And then replace Bronya with Sunday... 🤔
Genshin could never.....have this level of powercreep.
Jealous of them kinda. Hu tao and xiao are 1.0 dps that are still meta relevant. Yeah they got powercreeped by the newer dps, but with the proper investment they still pop off.
Not the case in HSR.
In genshin case, they went waaaaaay too dank when making xingque and bennet kit. Take those 2 out of equation and boom, powercreep (and xiangling too i guess)
dw they steadily introduce powercreep in GI. All the top dps are less than y old and they raised the Abyss hp also.
@@ixirion
Ye, but even out of these top DPS, only Neuvilette is competition for the Big 5.
People are desperate for Mauvika to powercreep Xiangling. But if the leaks are accurate, that doesn't appear to be the case.
@@CommentPositionInformer im actually so depressed about this, im using dehya atm because I don't want to run xiangling- i skipped nahida c1 under the assumption that mavuika would never be the 100th damn pyro dps.... i was wrong...
Aaahh Blade enjoyer~ you deserved a Sub my man! Keep it up
I have no idea what the hell Hoyo have been doing with MoC I feel like I have a pretty stacked account but my FART team is struggling. As a player should you really have to pull every banner 5star and their sig’s just to clear the content? It feels like such a massive leap from the last one too
I feel this man, even though I love Acheron and Feixiao to death, I really miss using my Blade and Jingliu for endgame or just battles in general. I enjoy their playstyles a lot and the HP inflation is genuine garbage, makes me so sad
I feel u, Kafka used to be hype in the past but now she isn't even considered lol
You did great fr I’m goin be a jing yuan main when I pull for him and Sunday keep up the good work homie🎉
This is so sad. I love Blade, he was released in patch 1.2 (around 3 months of the game release) and since then his gameplay just fall more and more.
We need desperately an HP dmg% buffer, just like JingYuan will "revive" in the next patch with Sunday. But yeah, the powercreep of this game (in the new characters taking over the "oldest" and the hardness added to the late game modes) is destroying the enjoyment of the players' gameplay.
I used Blade with a normal team (blade + sparkle + pela + huohuo) and a good build in MOC 8 (not even 11 or 12 lmao) and did it in 5 cycles...
that was a fun watch
Glad im not the only one noticing the direction the games going. Legit just OP char after OP character that makes every1 before it useless.
1% hp curse is real for everyone I guess
I agree that the powercreep is a problem but if you look at it another way this is still really impressive.
Imagine the life of a seele main in this patch bro...I don't even wanna do moc anymore
Yeah i see no light for seele main now
oh dont worry dude, they gonna double the hp in 3.0. It gets **worse**
hp inflation is crazy as hell
To me HP inflation means Hoyo is making a point that if you like a character that’s not meta then you should focus on E6S5-ing that unit. If E6S5-ing a unit you love is not enough to make them relevant then all you can do is hope for a new synergistic unit.
You're wrong lol. HP inflation just means get the latest character or you'll have a hard time/be unable to clear. E6S5 Jingliu took 5 cycles to clear the previous MOC by the way. And yes, the PREVIOUS MOC. Not even the current one where the HP has increased even more.
@ That’s why I had included the portion at the end saying if the character still can’t clear fast enough with E6S5 then I think they will begin to release synergistic units for those that are having trouble such as Sunday. Hopefully earlier units like Blade and Seele can also benefit from future units, I’m not really sure if Seele benefits greatly by being on a Feixiao team but these are just examples. After E6S5, look for synergistic future units, I think this is Hoyo’s goal. I’m definitely not saying this is the way things should be and I don’t agree with Hoyo. But to them I believe the thought process is: while you’re waiting for future units to be synergistic with the old ones you love, you should be saving all your summons to have enough to pull the E6S5 (Jingyuan) and have enough for the new unit (Sunday), granted you barely take your account horizontal. Of course no one could have predicted the synergy of Sunday and Jingyuan but now we know it’s possible. Old units have a chance of being relevant again through a new unit. They want you to keep summoning for new units but it looks like you’ll only need 1 new limited unit to make an old unit good again so I think this is their way of helping in a F2P sort of way. But of course it’s not the best solution. Sorry for the think piece lol would love to hear your thoughts though!
Sunday should be a Blade buff?
Still the game is in such state that I dont even try to clear with my fav units :/
3buffer with that little dmg is so sad 😢 RiP old character 😅
imo they will release meta hp related mechanics sometime in the future, maybe in version 3, that could elevate blade like jing yuan is elevated by sunday
6:35 i bursted out laughing
I think the reality of it is that especially the older DPS just need Robin to keep up, I can see this team being a lot better with Robin instead of Ruan Mei due to the attack frequency, even if her attack buff is a bit wasted.
Correct me if I'm wrong of course, I'm sure you have more experience playing Blade at the end of the day.
Damage wise, maybe. The problem is that Ruan Mei also acts as a "sustain" by increasing break efficiency and making the enemies stay broken much longer. Which is what lets him play sustainless in the first place. With Robin, breaking Svarog slower, staying broken shorter, she'd probably die. At least, that's what I think.
It would not make that much difference tbh, Blade is just weak for current MoC
Robin can work too, but Ruan Mei provides a comfort factor like others mentioned where enemies break faster. That's how I made sure the wolves never did their dumb CC stuff, and made sure my units could stay alive long enough. Robin is theoretically higher damage if you can stay alive long enough.
try this again with using sacerdos set for bronya, you might not get the same speed but the 4 piece is pretty good for buffing other chracters and is currently the best in slot for bronya at the moment
It's a shame because it's such a cool team comp.
But you did really well.
Ull love Sunday that's all im gonna say lmao
I can feel those 6 months worth of grind just for a 2 cycle in your voice at the end, thats depressing. Hopefully Hoyo hears pur complains and reverts those HP number back a little, because the game not only needs to slow down, it needs to step back. This is ridiculous.
waiting for the hp buffer in 3.x , trust
4:17 you should let sparkle and bronya ult after Blade skill, so he can buff for 1 extra turn.
Anything under a 6-cycle for side a successful clear. Just cause older teams can't 0-2 turn clear that doesn't mean they are dead. Blade can very easily be mega-buffed once they add an HP scaling harmony unit.
We've been waiting.
And they haven't done it.
They don't care, and now Remembrance is coming and it isn't gonna help 1.0 Hyper carries
Have you tried eagle set on blade with duran and jade i think march 7 works too lisara made a video on blade with no sustain and bronya sunday combo wich i think is insane definitely should try it out
I've have Blade and his lightcone since his release. It's a shame what powercreep does for so many beloved characters.
Funny story to lighten the mood: there was this one time in DU where I was trying out the hardest difficulty and i was fighting a Something Unto Death and his self heals was the puzzle piece to winning lmao.
Now are you ready for Sunday
trust sunday brings this up to a 1 cycle
unlimited unlimited blade works with sparkle sunday bronya is gonna be cinema
Honestly, the present MoC is just... depressing. Instead of inflating the enemy's health, why not make characters that are less overpowered? Although i could see some problems with it such as, players complaining why new units' perfomance arent that far from older units...
But it's much better than having a nearly impossible endgame content without spending money...
So much investment is required, farming for 6 months is no joke. makes me sad when youcan just pull a firefly and do a 0 cycle with barely 30 days of investment. and blade is my favourite charracter
Man, I hope he would be able to at least 5 cycle by the time I get him on next rerun, great run though
Hopefully when Sunday comes out tour team will be better
What do you think about jingliu? she also feels weak on MoC 12 even with ice weakness.
Even in moc 11 with that bug she still struggle with it,its hp is insanely high now compared to 1.x moc
Moc 11 swarm, jing liu 4 turn clear, firefly 5 turn clear
I remember I was so Happy to pull for blade and I did everything to build him and his teams.. It makes me kind of sad that the powercreep it’s getting quite noticeable and bigger in the game, Also, For the thing that I really don’t have much new characters and all, I can’t really clear it with as fast as I’ll like. Let’s just hope they buff this characters.
Can you make it with F2P teams? I want to know how quickly it could be.
Meanwhile new units are 0 cycling with slightly above average relics lol
"I will dispatch of you in 8 actions" ahh bald setup💀
You have my respect, maybe we get an hp buffer in the future :/
If hoyo did just like jingyuan.. they probably might do a support that's good with him when his rerun come .. who knows
Hsr with a well invested 1.x dps and has no specific support for his hp achertype yet clearing with 2 cycles = dissapointing
Genshin with Xiao needing furina, bird girl, and faruzan to keep up = omg genshin has no powercreep so good
its not powercreep its just they keep adding tons of hp to the bosses
300K MIGHT BE UNREACHABLE FOR ME 😭😭😭
i mean, this build is impressive but there are easier ways to get 6 turns in one cycle without having to build so much speed. Using a -1spd bronya or preferably sunday along with robin is already 6 actions. if you run bronya sunday robin when you could get to 9 i think, and this is with ~135 spd on all your characters
you got new subscriber , cool vid im already test this comp, but mine bronya & sparkle not same spd, and take 5 turn 😂
Can you do Super Break Blade lol
I just used Feixaio and Firefly on every single level. Just like I did last month. Just like I did in MoC. Just like I did in Pure Fiction. Isn't power creep fun? :)
i just need sparkle to make it work try it inhibitor lunae or jungliu
I want to try it 😂😂
I get wanting to do Blade Hypercarry, but Blade solo has never been relevant, even on release. In my opinion, he has always felt like a dual DPS with Jingliu and now Jade to help add stacks fast. You have no one on the team doing any damage other than Blade, and that feels really bad. Even Jing Yuan and Argenti hypercarries have typically had a sub-DPS/support and they perform fine. Have you considered changing the units on the team? A Huo Huo or a Jade, if you have either, would certainly help a lot. Huo Huo for energy and true sustain, Jade as a sub-DPS/support to help drain Blade faster. Hell, even Acheron and Feixiao teams, every unit is doing something, not just buffing one unit
Is ruan mei better than robin here considering the abundance of attacks?
Just gotta wait for a support to buff
Like beliaplus said in Js_Edu’s comment thread, Blade is best for long battles. As we all know, Hoyoverse endgame content values speed. Now correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t most turn based RPGs do the opposite for end game? Like, for hard bosses, you’d be preparing before the battle, stocking up on items, and grinding levels cause you’re gonna be there for a long time. You’re supposed to be low on resources after a hard battle in most turn based RPGs, right? That being said, I find it strange that Star rail hasn’t a drawn out battle for endgame content yet (unless you consider SU endgame). The weekly bosses like Feixiao and Cocolia would be great for this concept. Matter of fact, if only stagnant shadow wasn’t scored on speed, it;d be perfect. Just give the bosses a lot of hp, give a certain buff to imply a specific strategy to win, and reward players on how much hp they take off the boss.
As a person with a 300k Criting QQ, (with sustain, I could do without, but I really want to use my Fu xuan.) I can say that units are getting kinda out of hand…
It takes like 6 cycles for my QQ to kill svarog, which while my Units aren’t fully built. (Sunday has like lvl 4 traces.) is still kinda crazy…
Powercreep might exist, but it also might be how the units are made.
Blade hasn’t really gotten a lot of good buffs, neither has the old units, which can be attested to Powercreep, but also situations, like QQ, and the lack of good quantum weak units. (Blade is a Follow-up unit, so he isn’t really made for stuff like MOC anymore, being the most viable in PF.)
Current units are more viable due to meta being focused around them, but how much they will benefit next patch will entirely depend on how next patch goes.
We also have to remember that MOC 12 didn’t exists for a good bit, coming in around 1.5-2.0, so that’s something else to consider, which is considered more of a luxury than that of MOC 10, which we started the game with.
Yeah, MOC will get harder, but it’s the challenge part of HSR.
Will that take fun out for the casuals?
Yeah, but being that many will pull for newer units, and or units like Sunday, I think it can balance itself out. (People have already said it best: what’s the point of grinding you ass off for 60 steller Jades? Unless your a perfectionist, or like to build characters most people aren’t going to do that, and even then, they still have to figure out their *Own* teams, like the tik tok kids running triple dps.)
Powercreep might be real, but then rebalancing like Jing yuan is also real;
If the devs make older units viable in a new meta shift, I think that would be cool, but if not, at least stay viable through things like new relics or insane buffs that affect that unit arcitype.
QQ, my main, is still holding her own even tho she was released in 1.0, and she will only get stronger as time goes on.
Before Rappa, and since robin’s release, she was doing 770k on ult against all 5 quantum weak characters, OUTSIDE OF SU AND MOC. (She was out capping my Acheron’s damage at the time, which was 700k on ult.)
It’s a mix of meta shift, and Fomo, since a lot of newer players aren’t going to have blade, unless he releases again.
While I say that powercreep is probably real, it’s not just that, and tbh, I’m just hoping that 1.0 characters will still be viable during amphoria, since I saw the new boss, and it looked like it had 5 mil hp, so help us god….
Blade come back
you should be able to 0c again after Sunday replaces bronya here😊
BLADE RERUN PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
i think people take it waaaay too seriously and the MoC hp increase isnt that bad. you cant zero cycle anymore, so what? a 2 cycle clear is still fast, and its a clear regardless. and powercreep isnt even that bad, i used DoT, which is a damage archetype that is sadly not getting attention, and i cleared with 4 cycles
the only thing that is getting affected by this hp increase is 0 cycles, and 90% of the player base doesnt do them, me included
moc is absolutely fine
400 effective speed for a 2 cycle clear lol
Powercreep with mechanics feels good. Powercreep with intensive ho inflation feels cheap
Would you clear faster with Sunday instead of Bronya?
Yea sunday is gonna be an improvement. His buffs last longer so followup attacks will get buffed too
Why speed buid if bronya and sparkle in the same team
because speed tuning
Ummm ... I hate to be that guy but have you considered you may be overvalueing (sorry if I spelled that wrong) speed? In 2 turns my blade does more dmg than yours does in 3 turns with a single harmony character on the team.
This looks like a super fun playstyle but I think you shouldn't judge a character's value off a playstyle that isn't his best. 😢
Try pulling his eidolans
Put blade with jade
I u can get ur speed up and run Robin you could get 8 turns
lol that is technically possible, especially if i get robin e2 someday. maybe i'll head back to the mines for more speed
when my free 4* scuffed build hunt march 7th does more damage than blade...
robin carried
@@daichi1069me using superbreak still deal 300k all with e6 march,e0 rm,e3 hmc,e0 Gallagher.. robin who??
@@HeyItsme-c8x pertending like hmc is any better. girl hmc carried
@@daichi1069 pretending like your opinion is based when it's not 🤓
@@HeyItsme-c8x its not a take its math you idiot lmao give blade the same setup and hell in fact, do better 🤓🤓
Its okay
As long as you can clear with 3 stars you are gtg.
Its just the "I want to 0-cycle" thingy that I dont understand. Theres no achievement for this no?
There is no achievement.. it's just a flex
There is no achievement.. it's just a flex
@HeyItsme-c8x well... its a sad flex lol.
Given that you get absolutely nothing out of it
rn 0 cycling is just the hardest achievable challenge you can give yourself that's entirely reliant on how well you build your characters and your gameplay, so naturally people who enjoy the game want to do it.
Putting all this effort into something, only to realise it's literally mathematically impossible for blade to 0 cycle anymore because he just physically cannot do enough damage with how much hp has inflated, it's understandably demoralising
@@fats2010 Yeah but its not this big of a deal right?
If your heavily invested dps cant clear MOC without 3 Staring it everywhere, this could be a big potential issue.
0 Cycling is just...an ego or flex challenge imo. There is no such achievement for it as well iirc.
So in general, its not that big of a deal.
Можно попробовать заменить Жуань Мэй на Е1 Робин, так как вторая продвигает всю команду. На пару с продвижением Искры, Брони и DDD, это может сократить прохождение на 1 цикл.
Когда выйдет Воскресенье, можно поставить его вместо Искры, так как его продвижение 100% и больше баффы.
Или, если у Вас Е2 Искра, можно выкинуть Броню и поставить Е2 Воскресенье, чтобы Блэйд игнорировал 40% защиты врага (16%+24%).
Но нужно считать и тестировать урон этих двух команд. Так сложно сказать, кто лучше
You wasted 6 months farming speed lmao?
No one knows this but 157 SPD + Vonwacq + DDD can get you 3 turns on your harmony in the first cycle
Looking at power creep logically I can’t say that power creep has been “too fast” especially since this is a Turn Based game where characters are heavily reliant on base kits and multipliers to become stronger.
Blade since release (over a whole 2 years ago iirc… damn it’s been a long time) has been notoriously incredibly weak on his own. He was basically made for duo dps with Jingliu and now Jade, not solo play, at least when it comes to clear time.
I agree that MoC HP inflation this time around was too much and heavily favored new units significantly more than I’m comfortable with I can’t exactly say it’s been too fast.
MoC is technically an End Game mode where you need heavy investment in older characters and even heavier investment into their teams to clear unless you’ve got the newer and stronger unit.
Being able to clear with one of the worst solo dps characters to have ever been released, who came out pretty soon after the games release, without any sub dps or dmg boosting gimmick mechanics in play (cough cough superbreak) in 2 cycles without a high cost team (cost = number of 5 star eidolons and lightcones used) is in my opinion proof that power creep in HSR is pretty well balanced when it comes to its speed
"Powercreep has been pretty well balanced" my ass. Sparkle got powercrept by Robin in 2 patches. And now E0S1 Sunday is outperforming E6S1 Sparkle. Open your eyes.
@@orangenoob2768 sparkle was made almost exclusively as a Mono Quantum and DHIL support though, very niche. Robin in mono quant kinda ruins the point of mono quant and robin needs to work alongside sparkle in DHIL teams, she cant do it alone. I'm not privy to the e0s1 sunday vs e6s1 sparkle thing you're talking about but i find it hard to believe that sparkle e6s1, providing 40%atk, 24% def pen, another skill point (again for those previously mentioned two teams cause shes meant to be a niche support) and a teamwide crit dmg buff based off of 64% of her own cdmg + 54 loses out to e0s1 sunday
That is why more and more people are tired and want to quit the game. Or at least they will not care about any endgame anymore and just play for the story. HSR has huge issue. When I'm trying to adress this I'm always attacked by some dumb morons with "waaa" or "skill issue" bs.
HSR cry for variety of teams. If you can't play with your fav characters the game is just not fun. Now only Feixiao and break mains or meta slaves enjoying the game. Everyone else not really. Maybe if you invested a lot in Acheron like E2, Jiaoqiu ect. But at E0 without Jioqqiu Acheron is just mid af now. The game became a borefest where only 2-3 teams are usable and everything else is just instant ass if you don't own eidolons.
With E6 supports you can still even use Hook the great and it's fine. But F2Ps are fucked. If you are not a meta slave you might struggle to even beat the content. You need every new shiny toy or you are out from the rat race.
Powercreep is way too hard. It exist in Genshin too, but Genshin devs does powercreep in a good and healthy way. In HSR 4* has 0 purpose. We can argue about Tingyun, Pela, March, Moze or Galla. But if you have Sunday, Jiaoqiu, Topaz or Lingsha you will not even touch them ever again. In Genshin 4* are very important even now. Of course there is XL, XQ, Bennett. But Sucrose, Lisa, Sara, Beidou, Fischl, Keaya, Kachina, Ororon, Chev, Charlotte, Yanfei, Thoma and more and more are still very good options for some teams. You can easly beat any content with your fav characters and GI still make a lot of money. Of course you can still use your boring Neuv. But no one force you to do that. You have a lot of other options.
Star Rail could NEVER.
You get me .. especially in discord (for me) .. there are people saying powercreept doesn't exist.. you just need higher investment to clear blah3 .. when the Soo called need higher investment to clear decent cycle is definitely not good .. I feel like I am talking to a people with no brain to think with a logic ..
You get me .. especially in discord (for me) .. there are people saying powercreept doesn't exist.. you just need higher investment to clear blah3 .. when the Soo called need higher investment to clear decent cycle is definitely not good .. I feel like I am talking to a people with no brain to think with a logic ..
such unrealistic expectations. of course you will be upset when you have no idea how these games work. following the meta and having your teams built properly is how you play the game, wanting to use your favorites in all modes all the time will require alot of investment either you are willing to spend or not and follow the meta. that sucks for a lot of people and its just not for you at that point and that should be fine if its that big of an issue and everyone quits they will make changes.
Blade is probably one of the worse to demonstrate this. His kit scaling and synergies are just bad. You could replace him with nearly anyone else and get the full benefits of the buffs.
Jingyuan might not be the best but this is why he is viable. Regardless of HP pool (turbulence is MEANT to help out here) he’ll continue to drop.
your mic so good i could hear your saliva
I think the power creep is exactly what's needed. Blade is several things in one instead of focusing on one thing only like the best characters now, not to mention Jingliu Blade still is a crazy combo.
my half ahh build along with skill issues went from 2-3 cycle to full 10 cycle run each🥲
I like how the entirety of the complaints in the comments section is power creep ...following a showcase of Blade, a sub DPS ...in a 0 cycle. How much more disingenuous can you get with this? The end game is not meant to be 0-cycled. It never was, hence the literal 10 cycles they give you to full clear and several of the MoC buffs being after a cycle ends. Just because RUclipsrs solved the puzzle and found a way to cheese the game mechanics does not mean that's the norm. Just because you can't do that does not mean the power creep is so bad that the game is unplayable. All the comments are just people who don't know how to play the game parroting the same doomer mentality. Several comments were "I didn't pull for this and that DPS and now my account is bricked", almost like the game wants you to have multiple team comps with different elements/DPS archetypes... Like do you guys actually hear yourselves?