@@JeffStarrEverything from Peaches to Shiek is peak Zappa imo. Obviously they're outliers on both ends of the spectrum (both bad and good); but he had almost a solid decade of true greatness. The 74 band is my favorite lineup gun to my head. To me; it's not just Frank, the band also matters. So I could name songs, but I'd rather name lineups lol.
I listened to it again recently after finishing this interview and it is an amazing album that does cover pretty much all of Frank's styles. I also listened to "Does Humor Belong In Music" and while it might not be the best place to start it is still great with some very strong performances.
Great Recommendation. "Läther" is a wonderful album to recommend, *especially* to people who have never listened to Zappa before 😥. It has a wide range of styles: Guitar based songs, newsworthy based songs, instrumental songs, social commentary songs, horn/brass based songs, percussion based songs, completely silly songs ("Lemme Take You to the Beach"), and random flourishes of percussion (ty Edgard Varese) and spoken word "glue" between songs. "Läther" (1996), recorded in 1969; 1972-1977 has everything that Zappa is about. I highly recommend it for the young sophisticate.
Zappa was government sherlock as well as music gem a micturate most of the time. Nobody experimented sound like him. I now play some weird bluesy humour he is a big influence. miss what could have ❤
28:40 Frank rated Honesty highly. In my experience and from interviews Frank was always honest which is why I question everyone's disbelief when Frank said that Solitude was not about Gail. I believe him but of course I have no way of knowing, it's just a gut feeling and I concede that it is part of folk lore that the song is about Gail.
Co de Kloet is an important Dutch Zappateer, also Roelof Kiers. Anton Corbijn brings the beef. René Mesritz was a Grandmother for a while. Paul Lemmens' Black Page/Little Umbrellas. One of Zappa's last TV interviews was with Ivo Niehe. You will never hear _vloerbedekking_ again!
my answer to the question about his early death: he wouldve written a crapton of really good experimental music being the most important composer of this century
Very true, I hadn’t thought about that. If viewers want to learn more, please watch my interview with Pauline where we discuss her time working for and living with Frank Zappa: ruclips.net/video/baqZM1ARoLc/видео.html
It was an interview that I read decades ago, couldn't possibly remember where. I thought it was far-fetched too, but he said it in the article. If I'm not mistaken, in the same interview that he knew his phones were tapped. Moon also said something along the lines of his having been assassinated sometime in the years since his death. I am not making these things up or remembering incorrectly. It's just been awhile since I read them.
@@squanto2 There was a bit of conspiracy theory for a while about Frank being murdered but take into account he never went out, never walked anywhere, never sat down to a proper meal, lived an isolated life, drank coffee non-stop and almost chain smoked. The miracle would be if, after all that, he had not been ill.
Great talk! I’ll have to read the book again soon, and look forward to the audio version. I remember reading an interview, Jimmy Carl Black, I believe, and there was a link to the audio, so I listened and read along. Very enlightening. About the espresso machine: there’s a picture and desciption in the Zappa Gear book, so I looked it up. Very hard to find that machine. The company Rocket makes a travel friendly $2000+ machine (albeit heavy) , that I would definitely get if I was a travelling musician. I am a Danish timpani player w the Singapore Symphony Orchestra. Thanks for doing this interview!
Thank you very much for watching and leaving this nice comment. I forgot that the espresso machine was in the Zappa Gear book! Haha! I even reviewed that book on my channel. Sounds like you also like espresso. I’ve been thinking about getting a Cafelat Robot as a travel espresso machine with a good hand grinder. Congrats on your cool gig with the Singapore Symphony Orchestra. Timpani is really a cool instrument.
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment. I highly recommend reading Co’s book. You may also like the conversation I had with Pauline Butcher, Frank Zappa’s secretary ruclips.net/video/baqZM1ARoLc/видео.html
I’m thinking about buying a new Deluxe Reverb but thanks to your review it definitely won’t be the 68. That buzzing sound is awful and you shouldn’t have to have work done along with add ons for a new out of the box amp. I have 2 Fender combo amps purchased new and no problems. I just sit around playing, I’m not a pro but I do want really good sound. Thanks. 🙏 Your video was really helpful. 👍🌞☮️🎸🎵🩵
Yes, I would look at the ‘65 reissue over the ‘68. Also, if you can try before you buy. If you are only playing at home the Deluxe is a loud amp if you want tube overdrive. The Princeton Reverb might be a better option. Or, the Tone King version of the deluxe reverb might be the best for you.
Great interview, Co's insight to Franks world is the best and most interesting video the internet. The album NOT to start with is an interesting question and an even more interesting answer !!
Thank you for watching! It was a great honor to interview Co. Regarding the album to not start with, I was expecting something like Thing-Fish or Francesco Zappa so I liked being caught off guard with Co’s choice. Do you have a favorite Zappa album?
Magdalena is one of my favorites yet that song often gets singled out. People listen to true crime stories with the most disturbing details imaginable and consume it as entertainment. Magdalena is not glorifying it nor milking it the way, say, some podcasters do with actual crimes with real people as characters instead of an absurd fictional tale taking a swipe at human depravity. Look forward to reading the book and hearing Steve Vai's saxophone quartet.
Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment. I am also really curious and excited for the Steve Vai saxophone quartet. I recommend reading Co’s book to learn more about what Flo and Eddie had to say about Magdalena.
@rheniumosmium - I have been a Frank fan for almost 50 years and love his humor and parodies in 99% of his lyrics. There was no excuse for Magdalena then or now. Disgusting song that wasn't funny nor worth memorializing. Notice how he never performed it after the Flo and Eddie tour?
@@Frunobulax74 He never performed that song after because it was made only for the Flo and Eddie band. Same with billy the mountain and eddie are you kidding. That song was written about a true story Howard Kaylan heard while he was in jail
Frank had woke people in his day, but they didn't call themselves "woke" they called themselves "hippies". And we all know how Frank felt about hippies.
@@Frunobulax74 agree, but that's probably the closest thing Frank had in his day. Its been almost 60 years since then and its progressively gone down hill. Just imagine how its gonna be 60 years in the future.
I think that to answer this we would want to know what your definition of Woke includes. If we use the standard dictionary definition of being "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination" then Frank was likely already woke. I'm pretty sure he would have supported calls to defund the police based on his experiences with cops and frequent criticisms of the police. He would also have been against censorship, as he was during the PMRC hearings.
Some sunny day someone will write a book about you, Co. Thank you for making me a part of your friendship with Frank and his overwhelming honesty!
because he's unique.. and quite possibly the finest musician and composer in the history of modern music
What are some of your favorite Zappa compositions?
@@JeffStarrEverything from Peaches to Shiek is peak Zappa imo. Obviously they're outliers on both ends of the spectrum (both bad and good); but he had almost a solid decade of true greatness. The 74 band is my favorite lineup gun to my head.
To me; it's not just Frank, the band also matters. So I could name songs, but I'd rather name lineups lol.
Discovered Frank in 1970, and still discovers him EVERY DAY!
Zappa Lives!
He was, and is, hugely influential in my intellectual and cultural formation!
The Zapped anthology which I bought for a buck opened up my world in many ways!
I always recommend Läther. It's my favorite.
I listened to it again recently after finishing this interview and it is an amazing album that does cover pretty much all of Frank's styles. I also listened to "Does Humor Belong In Music" and while it might not be the best place to start it is still great with some very strong performances.
The new improved and extended Live in New York is pretty darned good also
One of my favorite eras. I love Terry Bozzio’s drumming.
Great Recommendation. "Läther" is a wonderful album to recommend, *especially* to people who have never listened to Zappa before 😥. It has a wide range of styles: Guitar based songs, newsworthy based songs, instrumental songs, social commentary songs, horn/brass based songs, percussion based songs, completely silly songs ("Lemme Take You to the Beach"), and random flourishes of percussion (ty Edgard Varese) and spoken word "glue" between songs.
"Läther" (1996), recorded in 1969; 1972-1977 has everything that Zappa is about. I highly recommend it for the young sophisticate.
Zappa was government sherlock as well as music gem a micturate most of the time. Nobody experimented sound like him. I now play some weird bluesy humour he is a big influence. miss what could have ❤
Let him talk!
28:40 Frank rated Honesty highly. In my experience and from interviews Frank was always honest which is why I question everyone's disbelief when Frank said that Solitude was not about Gail. I believe him but of course I have no way of knowing, it's just a gut feeling and I concede that it is part of folk lore that the song is about Gail.
Co de Kloet is an important Dutch Zappateer, also Roelof Kiers. Anton Corbijn brings the beef.
René Mesritz was a Grandmother for a while. Paul Lemmens' Black Page/Little Umbrellas.
One of Zappa's last TV interviews was with Ivo Niehe. You will never hear _vloerbedekking_ again!
my answer to the question about his early death: he wouldve written a crapton of really good experimental music being the most important composer of this century
What a great interview, thank you 😊
Thank you for watching! Was there a specific question/answer you liked the most?
He knew he didn’t have much time because he believed he would be assassinated. He did not expect to have an illness-death.
Very true, I hadn’t thought about that. If viewers want to learn more, please watch my interview with Pauline where we discuss her time working for and living with Frank Zappa: ruclips.net/video/baqZM1ARoLc/видео.html
I seem to recall an interview where Frank voiced a concern that he was being microwaved in his home.
@@squanto2 I've never seen that. Sounds far-fetched to me. Do you have the URL for the interview?
It was an interview that I read decades ago, couldn't possibly remember where. I thought it was far-fetched too, but he said it in the article. If I'm not mistaken, in the same interview that he knew his phones were tapped. Moon also said something along the lines of his having been assassinated sometime in the years since his death. I am not making these things up or remembering incorrectly. It's just been awhile since I read them.
@@squanto2 There was a bit of conspiracy theory for a while about Frank being murdered but take into account he never went out, never walked anywhere, never sat down to a proper meal, lived an isolated life, drank coffee non-stop and almost chain smoked. The miracle would be if, after all that, he had not been ill.
Great talk! I’ll have to read the book again soon, and look forward to the audio version. I remember reading an interview, Jimmy Carl Black, I believe, and there was a link to the audio, so I listened and read along. Very enlightening. About the espresso machine: there’s a picture and desciption in the Zappa Gear book, so I looked it up. Very hard to find that machine. The company Rocket makes a travel friendly $2000+ machine (albeit heavy) , that I would definitely get if I was a travelling musician. I am a Danish timpani player w the Singapore Symphony Orchestra. Thanks for doing this interview!
Thank you very much for watching and leaving this nice comment. I forgot that the espresso machine was in the Zappa Gear book! Haha! I even reviewed that book on my channel. Sounds like you also like espresso. I’ve been thinking about getting a Cafelat Robot as a travel espresso machine with a good hand grinder. Congrats on your cool gig with the Singapore Symphony Orchestra. Timpani is really a cool instrument.
@@JeffStarr it sure is, thank you! I am definitevely an espresso/cigarette kind of guy!
Once again, Jeff, you show your skill as an interviewer.
Great conversation! Fascinating
Thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to leave a comment. I highly recommend reading Co’s book. You may also like the conversation I had with Pauline Butcher, Frank Zappa’s secretary
ruclips.net/video/baqZM1ARoLc/видео.html
@@JeffStarr allready got the book :-)
I will follow up with your suggestion! 👍
I’m thinking about buying a new Deluxe Reverb but thanks to your review it definitely won’t be the 68. That buzzing sound is awful and you shouldn’t have to have work done along with add ons for a new out of the box amp. I have 2 Fender combo amps purchased new and no problems. I just sit around playing, I’m not a pro but I do want really good sound. Thanks. 🙏 Your video was really helpful. 👍🌞☮️🎸🎵🩵
Yes, I would look at the ‘65 reissue over the ‘68. Also, if you can try before you buy. If you are only playing at home the Deluxe is a loud amp if you want tube overdrive. The Princeton Reverb might be a better option. Or, the Tone King version of the deluxe reverb might be the best for you.
Great interview, Co's insight to Franks world is the best and most interesting video the internet. The album NOT to start with is an interesting question and an even more interesting answer !!
What was the last off the record Zappa Question ?.
Thank you for watching! It was a great honor to interview Co. Regarding the album to not start with, I was expecting something like Thing-Fish or Francesco Zappa so I liked being caught off guard with Co’s choice. Do you have a favorite Zappa album?
Shhhhh…. It’s a secret. 😉
Man I wonder what Frank would think of AI music 🤔
I bet he would embrace the A.I. tools that can help isolate audio from mixed recordings.
Magdalena is one of my favorites yet that song often gets singled out. People listen to true crime stories with the most disturbing details imaginable and consume it as entertainment. Magdalena is not glorifying it nor milking it the way, say, some podcasters do with actual crimes with real people as characters instead of an absurd fictional tale taking a swipe at human depravity.
Look forward to reading the book and hearing Steve Vai's saxophone quartet.
Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment. I am also really curious and excited for the Steve Vai saxophone quartet. I recommend reading Co’s book to learn more about what Flo and Eddie had to say about Magdalena.
I really like that song. The girl turns around and says, "Go eat shit!!!"
@rheniumosmium - I have been a Frank fan for almost 50 years and love his humor and parodies in 99% of his lyrics. There was no excuse for Magdalena then or now. Disgusting song that wasn't funny nor worth memorializing. Notice how he never performed it after the Flo and Eddie tour?
@@Frunobulax74 He never performed that song after because it was made only for the Flo and Eddie band. Same with billy the mountain and eddie are you kidding. That song was written about a true story Howard Kaylan heard while he was in jail
So would frank be for the so called woke culture of today.?
The opposite of being woke is being asleep. Frank wasn't asleep.
@@squanto2 The so called woke of today seem asleep.
Frank had woke people in his day, but they didn't call themselves "woke" they called themselves "hippies". And we all know how Frank felt about hippies.
@@Frunobulax74 agree, but that's probably the closest thing Frank had in his day. Its been almost 60 years since then and its progressively gone down hill. Just imagine how its gonna be 60 years in the future.
I think that to answer this we would want to know what your definition of Woke includes. If we use the standard dictionary definition of being "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination" then Frank was likely already woke. I'm pretty sure he would have supported calls to defund the police based on his experiences with cops and frequent criticisms of the police. He would also have been against censorship, as he was during the PMRC hearings.
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