You can actually lower the debouncing a significant amount (i believe to 2-4ms someone correct me if i’m wrong) by holding down M4 when you turn on the mouse.
@@lepari9986That’s true and ideally there would be a way to have no debouncing (like using opticals) or a way to adjust it to be lower than 4ms, but I just wanted to mention that it is atleast adjustable.
Ive always kinda liked similar mice to u. I have been trying to find a viper mini replacement for years now. Ive bought like 10 different mice including the cobra but the cobra feels bad in my opinion. Its to flat or wide where it dosent lock in my hand like the og viper mini. It also has a weird cut out in the front that hurts my ring finger. I just ordered the s2. Hopefully i can get a solid grip on it.
To be honest, I don't really like the click feeling of U2 and the click feeling of blue shell pink dot. I prefer the black dot type used by VAXEE more than that. But VAXEE doesn't fit it in the 60g range...
people forget that even as good aimer your flick overall ez has a 400ms latency if the clicik latency is 1ms or 4ms doesnt make any difference at all. and people who complain about it should be using no mouse other than the op1 8k or xm2 8k - wired
4:30 - This is all I needed to hear to stay away from it. As much as I love the S2 shape the stiffness of the Zowie mice cause serious fatigue if you aren't using them for FPS games. They are pretty much unusable in MOBA video games. Guess we sleep and wait for another company to clone S2 shape other than Fantech
Everyone always tells Zowie what they "should" do, yet none of ya'll even use Zowie mice. It's so cringe because people complaining keeps causing Zowie to add these stupid changes like lighter clicks, lighter side mouse button clicks, and higher step scroll wheels... and then you guys don't even use the mice after they make changes. I'm still pissed about the lighter side mouse buttons that occasionally missclick when blind regripping the mouse after typing, and these baby clicks that also often missclick when you're doing massive swipes. Zowie needs to just stop listening to plat chat and focus on their loyal customers.
@@stefanpapdi5151 Yes they did, and you're proof of someone who doesn't use Zowie mice. I buy a Zowie mouse every year and notice all these small changes. The EC2-A was the last Zowie mouse with heavy clicks, mushy side buttons, and a low step scroll wheel. The modern Zowie mice are not the same. They are still great, but these changes were completely unnecessary and actually cause more harm than good. While I love the new cord and lighter weights, these other changes are to cater to people who don't even use the mice.
@@xxtomatopiexx Nope. The clicks now are 2x lighter than the old EC2-A. The side buttons now have no travel distance, and the scroll wheels have doubled in steps. Again, you're someone who doesn't use Zowie mice and here you are.
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zowie taking their shapes and putting modern features. That's literally all they had to do.
i’m having a great time with my s2 dw. the shape, coating and clicks are awesome. hand size: 18.5x10.8
They'll have my cash if they make a lightweight EC1. Perfect shape for me, but I get tired flicking that thing around.
I'm the opposite of you bruhh, I can't use a light mouse lol
Been rocking the s2c wired. Just love the shape and quality
You’ll love the dw then!
You can actually lower the debouncing a significant amount (i believe to 2-4ms someone correct me if i’m wrong) by holding down M4 when you turn on the mouse.
You're not wrong, but it only does go to 4ms and you don't have a lower option than that currently.
@@lepari9986That’s true and ideally there would be a way to have no debouncing (like using opticals) or a way to adjust it to be lower than 4ms, but I just wanted to mention that it is atleast adjustable.
Been using the za13 for years and now the za13c. Truly the goat imo.
Ive always kinda liked similar mice to u. I have been trying to find a viper mini replacement for years now. Ive bought like 10 different mice including the cobra but the cobra feels bad in my opinion. Its to flat or wide where it dosent lock in my hand like the og viper mini. It also has a weird cut out in the front that hurts my ring finger. I just ordered the s2. Hopefully i can get a solid grip on it.
They never left.
Love the shape of the s2 and the viper v3 but which mouse do you prefer ?
Ngl I aim better with the s2
Great comparison video BT, I had the wired za13 for a while, it's what made me figure out I love claw grip the most 😂 that s2 is interesting.
Yeah, za13 is just perfection. Now I have the op1 8k, basically feels like a smaller za13.
@greippuli9166 that's one I haven't tried yet but have heard nothing but good things
What do you think about egg
Xm2w 4K and Op1w 4K? Can you please compare between Za13-dw and S2-dw?
Which one for a claw grip? Medium size of hand
wow this is nostalgic lol. HI BT, hope you're well! Saw a zowie video by you and had to click 😂
Time flies haha. Appreciate you diva! Hope you’re doing well!
To be honest, I don't really like the click feeling of U2 and the click feeling of blue shell pink dot.
I prefer the black dot type used by VAXEE more than that.
But VAXEE doesn't fit it in the 60g range...
are you able to use the mouse in wired mode and still get 2k or 4k polling?
people forget that even as good aimer your flick overall ez has a 400ms latency if the clicik latency is 1ms or 4ms doesnt make any difference at all. and people who complain about it should be using no mouse other than the op1 8k or xm2 8k - wired
That do s1 or za11 im game
I mean i used to use 2200 dpi. Which is really weird. But have switched to 1600 which is more universal across mice. 😂
i can not find another mouse with same shape and hump as the za
I want to know if s2dw is better than u2 or not?
i personally prefer the shape of s2 over the u2. u2 is a little too aggressive for my taste on the sides
No fk2dw?
That's what I though too
A bit late?!!!
Doesnt holding M4 when you turn it on set it to 4ms debounce? Same as the older zowie mice?
Yes.
4:30 - This is all I needed to hear to stay away from it. As much as I love the S2 shape the stiffness of the Zowie mice cause serious fatigue if you aren't using them for FPS games. They are pretty much unusable in MOBA video games. Guess we sleep and wait for another company to clone S2 shape other than Fantech
Everyone always tells Zowie what they "should" do, yet none of ya'll even use Zowie mice. It's so cringe because people complaining keeps causing Zowie to add these stupid changes like lighter clicks, lighter side mouse button clicks, and higher step scroll wheels... and then you guys don't even use the mice after they make changes. I'm still pissed about the lighter side mouse buttons that occasionally missclick when blind regripping the mouse after typing, and these baby clicks that also often missclick when you're doing massive swipes. Zowie needs to just stop listening to plat chat and focus on their loyal customers.
what a terrible take tbh
zowie didnt change clicks and side clicks and scroll. Ppl only want low latency from zowie lol
This is a terrible take, they kept the stiff clicks they've always had
@@stefanpapdi5151 Yes they did, and you're proof of someone who doesn't use Zowie mice. I buy a Zowie mouse every year and notice all these small changes. The EC2-A was the last Zowie mouse with heavy clicks, mushy side buttons, and a low step scroll wheel. The modern Zowie mice are not the same. They are still great, but these changes were completely unnecessary and actually cause more harm than good. While I love the new cord and lighter weights, these other changes are to cater to people who don't even use the mice.
@@xxtomatopiexx Nope. The clicks now are 2x lighter than the old EC2-A. The side buttons now have no travel distance, and the scroll wheels have doubled in steps. Again, you're someone who doesn't use Zowie mice and here you are.
150 USD lol sure thing Zowie
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