Optimization Problem #4 - Max Area Enclosed by Rectangular Fence

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  • Опубликовано: 3 май 2011
  • Thanks to all of you who support me on Patreon. You da real mvps! $1 per month helps!! :) / patrickjmt !! Optimization Problem #4 - Maximizing the Area of Rectangular Fence Using Calculus / Derivatives. In this video, I show how a farmer can find the maximum area of a rectangular pen that he can construct given 500 feet of fencing. We can actually solve this quite easily using algebra but here I am trying to show the overall process that we use on maximization / minimization problems.

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      I think Donald Trump will do a calculation similar to this one to build his wall

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      Ellie Burggraff that’s assuming he can even elementary math

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    that moment when a 10 min video made more sense than a 2 hour class teaching about the same thing...

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      ha, that is a good schedule! :)

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    • @calvinf9218
      @calvinf9218 3 года назад +1

      Too real

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      5 years later, comment is still relevant 🙃

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    gotta love cramming before finals....

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      me right now for my calc 1 final

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      @@fuccckckkkkckkck same here, the only topic I absolutely do not know how to do... and worth about 9-11 marks..

    • @manny9990
      @manny9990 5 лет назад +3

      5 years later and still relevant

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  • @RogerKlauser
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    Calc final on Thursday. You and your vids just might help preserve my grade. Thanks Patrick!!

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    Dude your videos really helps me, and are crystal clear, thanks a bunch !

  • @Minecraft5690
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    My guy, a girl sent me a problem like this and asked for my help. I haven’t done math since like 4th grade and I understood this perfectly. Thank u my guy

  • @scotlandw8
    @scotlandw8 8 лет назад +22

    It's amazing to think people came up with these formulas. Thanks for the video.

  • @chris13re5
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    This was a fantastic video. I've been stuck on this kind of problem for 45 minutes now. Your video has really cleared things up for me. Thank you!

  • @elizabethroberts8815
    @elizabethroberts8815 9 лет назад

    Your amazing! These videos are so clear and its so easy to follow your thought process to picking apart a problem. Thank You!!!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  11 лет назад +1

    you are very welcome!

  • @elsalfo
    @elsalfo 13 лет назад

    I did this by myself after watching you do problems # 1 and 2. I LOVE YOU!

  • @monkeydemon109
    @monkeydemon109 13 лет назад +1

    When I was in calculus I spent 10 weeks (the length of the quarter) trying to get this down.... and my professor barely helped me at all. You just made it ridiculously clear in under 10 min.

  • @amy_muk
    @amy_muk 4 года назад

    Thank you so much! You really broke down the process and concept of optimization. Everything made so much more sense!

  • @R34L1ZiN9xB34uTi
    @R34L1ZiN9xB34uTi 11 лет назад

    Thank you for posting these videos!!! They are a real help!!!

  • @teargun1
    @teargun1 11 лет назад

    Will do man..there's many foreign students here who do not understand a thing the lecturers are babbling about in class, cause everything's in Chinese...your videos are life savers for some of us...cheers....

  • @nickp2111
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  • @dolphinsatsunset1
    @dolphinsatsunset1 9 лет назад +27

    I labeled my rectangle differently. The side parallel to the river I labeled x and the other two sides I labeled y. So my equation was x + 2y = 500 and thus y = (500 - x)/2. Then A = x [ (500 - x)/2 ] which gives A = 250x - 1/2 * x^2 and the derivative is dA/dx= 250 - x. When I set that equal to 0, I get x = 250. Then I plug that back in my original formula and I receive 125 for my y value. A = x * y = (125)(250) = 31,250 square feet. So my computation was different but I still received the same answer!!!

    • @Amanda-bg7ib
      @Amanda-bg7ib 4 года назад

      The way you did it was correct for a 4 sided pen. However, the question said that the pen has 3 sides, the 4th side is the river

    • @swaggymatt1
      @swaggymatt1 10 месяцев назад

      @@Amanda-bg7ibHe did it correct. He set the problem up for a three sided pen, hence he used the equation x + 2y = 500. He used different variables, but the naming of the variables mean next to nothing, as you are free to refer to them as you want. If he set it up for a four sided pen, he would have used the equation 2x + 2y = 500.

  • @abdullah1885
    @abdullah1885 8 лет назад

    very conceptual videos thanks patrick

  • @nathanielrosillo7339
    @nathanielrosillo7339 Год назад +1

    I got this exact problem on my online exam but with 800ft lmao good looks bro thanks for the help 😂

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  • @heresjoshy1
    @heresjoshy1 8 лет назад

    Thank you very much! This was extremely helpful

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    @instaminox 9 лет назад

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    @66koolkb 10 лет назад

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  • @Magicus1
    @Magicus1 9 лет назад +1

    Thanks again, Patrick! I got the same number I had earlier, but I did it again following your video just in case (I had different numbers) so that I would feel better. Sometimes it's not about not knowing, but it's about doubting yourself. I am happy you helped instill confidence in myself; that is, that I actually knew what I was doing. XD
    So again, thank you! :-)

    • @patrickjmt
      @patrickjmt  9 лет назад +1

      +Magicus1 very happy i could help!

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    @yasarkaya8176 9 лет назад

    that's so clear video to learn how to solve...Thanks man !

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    Thank you. This helps so much

  • @bitapita5813
    @bitapita5813 5 лет назад

    this was really helpful, thank you

  • @100equus
    @100equus 12 лет назад

    Best explanation I have seen anywhere.

  • @davidhill8163
    @davidhill8163 2 года назад

    Many thanks just what I needed

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    @LysC215 5 лет назад

    Very helpful. Thank you!

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    @yukiotheexorcist1967 6 лет назад

    Wow dude thank this helped a lot, I was completely lost but I now know how to do it

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  • @adanguizar
    @adanguizar 11 лет назад

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    @morgan106xo 11 лет назад

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  • @bucketrance
    @bucketrance 9 лет назад

    I did it on my own and then saw it was correct ...wwwEeeee!! Thanks Patti

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    @britaniclaus 11 лет назад

    Thank you patrick!!

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    @bethwilliams9661 7 лет назад

    You're better than my calculus teacher! And my calculus teacher is pretty great...

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    @nanone1994 12 лет назад

    oh what an amazing teacher you are !! thanks alot

  • @TheCrazyStats
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    Thank you so much. Optimization is the only thing I don't get in Curve sketching everything else is softtt cause of your helpful videos :D

  • @InDJness
    @InDJness 9 лет назад +1

    I would personally like to see a video on optimization of rectangles or any other shapes within another
    ex: a rectangle within a circle given the radius of the circle

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  12 лет назад

    @darkwolf811 yep

  • @3117master
    @3117master 10 лет назад +2

    You sir are amazing to say the least. You make me feel stupid because you make so simple it's like "wait how come I didn't think of that".

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    @ghaidakhiami 4 года назад +1

    i just want to thank u from my heart!!! You legit saved my ass

  • @stefanodomeni
    @stefanodomeni 4 года назад +2

    I ended up doing it by constraining the perimeter. I said well if we only have 500ft of material to work with. The the perimeter is 2x+y. So, 500 = 2x+y.
    From there I got y=250-x and I plugged that into the area, a=x(250-x).
    I was scared I got it wrong when I saw you did it a different way but I also arrived at x=125.

  • @vejayjoshobusan3661
    @vejayjoshobusan3661 4 года назад +1

    in this case, u can just divide the fencing material to 2 then that will be your length. the remaining fencing material will be divided by 2 then that will be your width. now that you have your length and width, multiply it then that'll be the maximum area.

  • @mzukisinicholasdwenene8413
    @mzukisinicholasdwenene8413 11 лет назад

    patrick i wish you were my lecturer man you making maths so simple :)

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  12 лет назад

    @djerock72192 no, i will be using it

  • @SearchTheWorldOver
    @SearchTheWorldOver 11 лет назад

    Wish me luck on my Exam tomorrow and thanks for the help!

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    THANK YOU SO MUCH

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    @hariszahid1311 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for helping me for my exams

  • @FallenAngel9977
    @FallenAngel9977 7 лет назад +3

    Isn't the length 500-2x divided by 2? 500-2x would be the two lengths together and not just one.

    • @prdpsrvn
      @prdpsrvn 3 года назад

      Yeah, Even I thought that is should have been x(250-x)=Area. The answers are same here, may be due to differentiating and equating to zero. I think answers would have been some what different otherwise.

  • @nkululekolifankosi8549
    @nkululekolifankosi8549 10 лет назад +1

    I was not aware of the part where you substitute x-values to see if the dimensions increase/decrease. Thank you once again!

  • @BrianTres
    @BrianTres 11 лет назад

    very-very nice video ! thanks man :)

  • @DissatoastedFTW
    @DissatoastedFTW 5 месяцев назад

    thank you my guy

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    @sungodcubing3990 2 года назад

    thanks man this helped a lot

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    @kro3232 9 лет назад

    Thank you!

  • @teargun1
    @teargun1 12 лет назад

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  • @muskamelogbi4716
    @muskamelogbi4716 3 года назад

    Dear professor, may l ask you a question, is optimization an exception or a part or infinitésimal calculus ? Thanks.

  • @surendrakverma555
    @surendrakverma555 4 месяца назад

    Good. Thanks 👍

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  12 лет назад +1

    @nanone1994 congrats on your great score :)

  • @tcolondovich2996
    @tcolondovich2996 5 лет назад +1

    Gotta love it when all the math instructors that post on youtube use the same video editing software and place all the sound onto the subwoofer channel. Yes, it's just you guys, it's rare I find a video about Chemistry or anything else where they blended all the audio together into the subwoofer channel. Find a computer with more than a stereo configuration (someone actually using a different connection for the subwoofer to the back of their computer,) and see how it sounds for yourself trying to hear a voice on a subwoofer. How can you be that good with math but that poor using a computer?

  • @artdude8278
    @artdude8278 7 лет назад

    This legitimately made more sense than how my teacher taught me...
    ...who spent 3 days trying to explain this

  • @dhcrazy333
    @dhcrazy333 13 лет назад

    Took the BC Calc AP test today. Wasn't too bad. Though there was a Taylor series problem that I knew how to do the first half, but I would REALLY like you to explain how to do the 2nd half. Too bad I have to "wait 48 hours" before I can discuss the nature of the problem :)

  • @eltayebeltayeb1568
    @eltayebeltayeb1568 5 месяцев назад

    Thank you Sir..

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    @farhanmohammed1189 5 лет назад

    Thank you

  • @user32455
    @user32455 7 лет назад

    Thanks man

  • @justabi_sings
    @justabi_sings 12 лет назад +1

    @chewedtoothpicks It's only 3 sides not 4, 2 widths and 1 length or vica versa. The river is the 4th side.

  • @iluvbigbootie
    @iluvbigbootie 9 лет назад

    can we use the second derivative test to test if it's a max or min instead of doing the interval test?

  • @ewgross1294
    @ewgross1294 12 лет назад

    you're my hero.

  • @lukeboerman
    @lukeboerman 11 лет назад

    just got a homework question right, Thanks!

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    @alimahsoomi7096 11 лет назад

    You're the best ,, thanks man

  • @jeanettequintero2313
    @jeanettequintero2313 5 лет назад

    THANK YOU

  • @ac7491
    @ac7491 11 лет назад

    I had this EXACT problem on my Calc 1 quiz last week.

  • @bobwilton7553
    @bobwilton7553 3 года назад

    you are a lifesaver

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    @sultanharebalsuwaidi9830 Год назад +1

    Extraordinary

  • @theultimategirl26
    @theultimategirl26 12 лет назад

    @AceAites He was just pointing out that when you do this problem when it is not dealing with a rectangle or some area, that usually you find where A(x) is undefined. But he didn't because we don't have an undefined area!! :D

  • @1994nintendofreak
    @1994nintendofreak 12 лет назад

    thank you

  • @anonymousowl395
    @anonymousowl395 2 года назад

    You are intelligent, thanks

  • @iluvbigbootie
    @iluvbigbootie 11 лет назад

    I've seen in other optimization video they would have constraint equation then plug it back into the area formula and then take the derivative of the area to find the critical value, but i don't see it here?

  • @whoaitsdiane
    @whoaitsdiane 10 лет назад +9

    You are my calculus angel!

  • @lesliepalmer3242
    @lesliepalmer3242 2 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @MA-zo3cm
    @MA-zo3cm 2 года назад

    GAAAHHHHH YOU MAKE SO MUCH SENSE!!!!!!!

  • @Twittchyy
    @Twittchyy 4 месяца назад

    Does a rectangle always provide the most area? Or could you get more area out of a different shape but still 500 feet of fence. How would you figure out which shape could generate the most area?

  • @chroma9848
    @chroma9848 6 лет назад

    I have a question, if the river fence is included, will the length become (250-2x)?

  • @iProjectMobius
    @iProjectMobius 12 лет назад

    Ha ha! Our teacher used this problem as an example in class! That means a problem like this will probably be on the test...

  • @azin6732
    @azin6732 8 лет назад

    Can you also find out the two values by completing the square?

  • @DDVelarde
    @DDVelarde 11 лет назад +1

    MARAMING SALAMAT!

  • @weepingcupcakefish3893
    @weepingcupcakefish3893 7 лет назад

    We have this type of problem on our tests, but I'm in precalc so I don't know what a derivative is. I can't find any precalc videos for this type of problem. Is there a way to do these without the derivative?

  • @wenndy1994
    @wenndy1994 12 лет назад

    Okay so If they do ask for dimensions is their like an extra step to do so because I have this problem (except it used 200 ft. And has two adjacent rectangles) but I don't know how to find the maximum area of dimensions .

  • @felix2847
    @felix2847 3 года назад +1

    Hopefully someone answers but how would you put the area function into a graph?

  • @mangobanana2982
    @mangobanana2982 9 лет назад

    what do u do when ur given the max area and have to find the dimensions that minimize perimeter????