Well, now we know why tanks in service were designed by engineers... Jokes aside, I know you likely know a lot about theory and were just having fun, but I guess that the most entertaining part of watching people design their first tanks in Sprocket is exactly because many lack experience and it gives you a window into the minds of people, who designed first tanks. You can see why experience of artillery officers and designers lead to Saint Chamond, why naval shipyard designed Char 2C and how automotive manufacturer came up with FT-17. Each had a piece of the puzzle they knew about and they worked with what they had. Their knowledge, their experience. It took almost 30 more years to come up with modern tanks and a few decades more for them to turn into sameish looking MBTs we know.
Absolutely! Despite all the jokes, Sprocket quite neatly demonstrates the characteristics of tanks and how design plays a part in it's use. Quite in-depth if you really think about it
This can be backed up by simple planes players who start out making cursed meme planes, vehicles or ships to making their own parts instead of using the ones that come with the game and the enginuity of a skilled simple planes player becomes instantly noticeable
Now you have made the world ending tank, the only thing that can kill it is itself. (Btw this game is a total meme the only purpose you have in it is to make the most cursed tank you can possibly imagine and it ussualy might even perform good enough)
Bruh, meanwhile me= i made a tank thats beautiful, weights at 36 tonnes but can take 220mm pen to the face and 47km/h speed :) Also me= make a weirdly cramped APC's that can fit many ppl like a sardine can, while no infantry present in game.
Note that the scenarios in Sprocket are only balanced for the tech level they are set at by default, and that they are NOT in order of difficulty. No Tank's Land (the first mission) is considered to be easily the hardest scenario in the game with default settings due to the horrific terrain, artillery fire, and the presence of both entrenched AT guns and enemy tanks.
The reason your tanks got stuck in the first gear is probably because your engine was set to "Target max RPM" higher than it's able to output, in the engine design screen you should change it to be at least 100RPM lower than the engine can output. The reason your last tank bounces a lot is actually a bug that happens if your suspension is way too strong. In the track screen if you switch tabs you can adjust the strenght of your suspension by changing lenght/diameter of the torsion bar (There's also HVSS but you can't really tweak that and besides you didn't use it there). I don't know what the optimal torque is but 3x specific weight works just fine.
Real life Tank Commander discovers Sprocket. Proceeds to imediately create blursed Fallout/Warhammer 40k mash-up monstrosity just like the rest of us. Good video, enjoyed.
I was rather thinking the Orks from Warhammer 40k. As they would paint their tanks yellow if they think its gonna make it fly or something (And knowing them it would)
Having done civil construction in the swamps, I can say the wider tracks were the right call! Basically what you're doing by using a wider track (or thicker mud tires on your tractors), is your spreading out the footprint and the distribution of the weight so you don't sink down. It's the same logic as using a snowshoe.
I actually had a idea about a tank like the russian apocalypse tank you have that i called the yw60 cat tank that is the same as yours but a few different decals like it had thos somewhat russian viewing thing's, you know the red eye's beside the gun. It had some railguns instead of normal cannons. Also had a raidgun on top that uses the used shells as ammo so we waste the whole shell instead of throwing it on the ground and called it a day, so yeah. powerful
Meanwhile Red alert 1 mammoth tank: BRUH why am I not here Red alert 1 heavy tank: Me too CNC Generals Mammoth tank: Hi brother CNC Generals Overlord Tank: BRUUUH
Oh yeah the World War I map has a few interesting quirks about it. Namely that there are huge pits that are designed to just bog you down permanently; even some of my longer tank designs can't cross those. The trenches are a bit hit-or-miss but most of them are crossable if you have a long enough vehicle. On a more generalized note Sprocket has a surprisingly in-depth track, suspension and drive system so you really want to tinker with your engine and gear systems while you're making your tanks. (or you could just be like me and have like 3-4 prefab gearbox/engine combos to make things simpler) Lastly I'd love to see a series where actual tank commander provides their perspective on a combat situation in Sprocket and then either designs a vehicle for that task or has a bunch of other people do it and rate which one did it best. Then you could probably go into why you think X or Y vehicle was really good at a certain task and generally share your experiences/knowledge about it. Let's be real and assume at least 90% of the people playing Sprocket picked it up because they like tanks and having someone with an insider's perspective is invaluable.
Glad you think so although I will admit I didn't know what half the settings did at the beginning. So... It's not that different from randomising things tbh haha
For crossing trenches, it would seem to me you need a longer track print(don't know if that's the right terminology), ie the parts of track horizontal to and in contact with the ground. That way when the tank tips forward over the trench the other side of the trench is not met with the upwardly inclined front portion of track, killing momentum, but a flat piece effectively slightly further back. A short track print also fits inside the trench width, effectively locking you in both ends. In short your track print needs to be longer than the width of the trench.
From my experimenting in trench crossing in sprocket, I have figured out the games doesn't actually consider the tracks, only the wheels (as in, the tracks between road wheels are purely cosmetic, no physics), which seems to be a common 'hack' for tracked vehicles, as circles are much easier for physics than tracks. Anyway, for trench crossing it will often be the case where the sharp edge of the trench wall will end up between the idler/drive sproket and the front road wheel, and wedge itself on the lower glacis. Also a problem when you have really soft suspension, over a trench the front one can over-compress and bottom your tank out. I have had some luck jamming a road wheel waaaay up front so its almost in front of the glacis. Still can't fix the bouncing issue though -_-
You makes black magic tank that can climb 45 degree angles (how bruh no shit I make can climb over a damn curb) meanwhile I make an equivalent of an MBT that is immortal on three sides.
I worked out that the bigger the sprocket gear, the harder it is for the engine to move (I think!) so smaller gears and more engine power (and more ground clearance) helped to cover rough ground pretty well. But of course it's harder when the tank is heavier lol
The mini tank (gold/yellowish and red striped) could of probably been very deadly since it could avoid direct artillery and just go in circles around an enemy tank that’s not as fast and doesn’t have a rotating turret
>late War 7.5t Tank >in WW1 also, that's easily the hardest mission, just because you get stuck everywhere, even once you cross the trenches. The game really starts on mission two in the Interwar period.
A huge problem with this game is that the tracks don't actually perform like tracks, it's pretty much just the roadwheels that do the work. Which is even more of a problem when crossing the trenches, the tracks just clip into the trench edge.
Honestly the original definition started from a British codeword to hide what the vehicle even was. And the name just stuck. So, it kind of inherited a very vague definition. These days it's virtually any armoured vehicle with the sole purpose of carrying an artillery caliber gun and fighting on the frontline. Still kind of vague tho haha
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Well, now we know why tanks in service were designed by engineers...
Jokes aside, I know you likely know a lot about theory and were just having fun, but I guess that the most entertaining part of watching people design their first tanks in Sprocket is exactly because many lack experience and it gives you a window into the minds of people, who designed first tanks. You can see why experience of artillery officers and designers lead to Saint Chamond, why naval shipyard designed Char 2C and how automotive manufacturer came up with FT-17. Each had a piece of the puzzle they knew about and they worked with what they had. Their knowledge, their experience. It took almost 30 more years to come up with modern tanks and a few decades more for them to turn into sameish looking MBTs we know.
Absolutely! Despite all the jokes, Sprocket quite neatly demonstrates the characteristics of tanks and how design plays a part in it's use. Quite in-depth if you really think about it
@@PanzerPaw I have 2 problems with my mouse. 1. I can only left click on the edge. 2. the right click is sticky.
This can be backed up by simple planes players who start out making cursed meme planes, vehicles or ships to making their own parts instead of using the ones that come with the game and the enginuity of a skilled simple planes player becomes instantly noticeable
The char 2c was unpractical and largely outdated but it at least functioned
Im wondering, what button is the shoot button on the cannon and what button is the load cannon if it exists.
Now you have made the world ending tank, the only thing that can kill it is itself. (Btw this game is a total meme the only purpose you have in it is to make the most cursed tank you can possibly imagine and it ussualy might even perform good enough)
Oh totally. I'll have to try making some truly cursed stuff in future
is the Baneblade a thing in this game? or any WH40K tanks for that matter.
@@mikistenbeck6517 well no but you can try to recreate them
@@redarmor5830 that's kinda shet, but cool :D
Bruh, meanwhile me= i made a tank thats beautiful, weights at 36 tonnes but can take 220mm pen to the face and 47km/h speed :)
Also me= make a weirdly cramped APC's that can fit many ppl like a sardine can, while no infantry present in game.
Note that the scenarios in Sprocket are only balanced for the tech level they are set at by default, and that they are NOT in order of difficulty. No Tank's Land (the first mission) is considered to be easily the hardest scenario in the game with default settings due to the horrific terrain, artillery fire, and the presence of both entrenched AT guns and enemy tanks.
Oh wow, I didn't realize that. Good to know!
The reason your tanks got stuck in the first gear is probably because your engine was set to "Target max RPM" higher than it's able to output, in the engine design screen you should change it to be at least 100RPM lower than the engine can output.
The reason your last tank bounces a lot is actually a bug that happens if your suspension is way too strong. In the track screen if you switch tabs you can adjust the strenght of your suspension by changing lenght/diameter of the torsion bar (There's also HVSS but you can't really tweak that and besides you didn't use it there). I don't know what the optimal torque is but 3x specific weight works just fine.
Thanks. Yeah I figured that out after I played around with the game a bit more. Next video is a bit better haha
Real life Tank Commander discovers Sprocket.
Proceeds to imediately create blursed Fallout/Warhammer 40k mash-up monstrosity just like the rest of us.
Good video, enjoyed.
I can't imagine the immense fascination I would have with this game for about 4 hours and then I'd never touch it again
as someone who has 360 hours in it i thought this too, if you really get into the community and freeforming its amazingly fun for hours on end
First 50 hours are making superheavies that weigh 70+tonnes
PanzerPaw: creates crazy tanks..
WG: "write that down!" "write that down!"...
as a world of tank player,wg really do be taking their source from some sketchy place...
the first tank you made in the WWI campaign reminds me of those cartoony tanks from Metal Slug lol
Damn, didn’t know you designed tanks for the Imperium of Man.
these tanks look like the tanks from foxhole (and warhammer 40k)
FOR THE EMPEROR
Baneblade baneblade let it rip
Im glad even a friggin Tank commander loves double barreled tanks!
*Because switching to your sidearm is always faster than reloading*
The first tank looks like it's from warhammer 40k
rogal dorn lookin ahh tank lmao
3:00
"Armageddon is here."
Man, do I miss RA2.
Great video, I love the end tank design!
The first tank looks like a cursed WH40K kitbash.
03:28 - This sort of reminds me of the Whippet tanks that did serve in WW1
Actually now you mention it, it kind of does look a bit like that
the first tank looks like if a sherman was mad by an insane engineer
I was rather thinking the Orks from Warhammer 40k. As they would paint their tanks yellow if they think its gonna make it fly or something (And knowing them it would)
@@trygveblacktiger597 nah yellow paint is for bigger explosions, red is for speed and blue is for luck
@@diegohiramguidogarcia6003 If he went purple he would have won because clearly the enemy cant shoot what they cant see.
@@JoshTheHoffman nah f that Rainbow paint and he will be unstopable
@@diegohiramguidogarcia6003 That is genius.... Don't tell the Orks...🤣🤣
I’m looking at this game and thinking: “i can build a leeman russ here. Maybe even a baneblade.”
Normal players on WWI map: *Creates a normal light tank*
Me: *Recreate a WWI tank based on the internet*
This dude: *Designs a Warhammer 40k tank*
8:28 “our gun basically has no depression” but it’s such a small happy tank, look at it! You don’t want to give it more depression 😂
Having done civil construction in the swamps, I can say the wider tracks were the right call!
Basically what you're doing by using a wider track (or thicker mud tires on your tractors), is your spreading out the footprint and the distribution of the weight so you don't sink down. It's the same logic as using a snowshoe.
I actually had a idea about a tank like the russian apocalypse tank you have that i called the yw60 cat tank that is the same as yours but a few different decals like it had thos somewhat russian viewing thing's, you know the red eye's beside the gun. It had some railguns instead of normal cannons. Also had a raidgun on top that uses the used shells as ammo so we waste the whole shell instead of throwing it on the ground and called it a day, so yeah. powerful
Meanwhile
Red alert 1 mammoth tank: BRUH why am I not here
Red alert 1 heavy tank: Me too
CNC Generals Mammoth tank: Hi brother
CNC Generals Overlord Tank: BRUUUH
If they give us the option for rocket pods and quad tracks I'm definitely making those too
@@PanzerPaw hmmmm ok
What I know there are a few tanks you can make from the command and conquer series
I wish u can make videos about those tanks.
Oh yeah the World War I map has a few interesting quirks about it. Namely that there are huge pits that are designed to just bog you down permanently; even some of my longer tank designs can't cross those. The trenches are a bit hit-or-miss but most of them are crossable if you have a long enough vehicle.
On a more generalized note Sprocket has a surprisingly in-depth track, suspension and drive system so you really want to tinker with your engine and gear systems while you're making your tanks. (or you could just be like me and have like 3-4 prefab gearbox/engine combos to make things simpler)
Lastly I'd love to see a series where actual tank commander provides their perspective on a combat situation in Sprocket and then either designs a vehicle for that task or has a bunch of other people do it and rate which one did it best. Then you could probably go into why you think X or Y vehicle was really good at a certain task and generally share your experiences/knowledge about it. Let's be real and assume at least 90% of the people playing Sprocket picked it up because they like tanks and having someone with an insider's perspective is invaluable.
he murdered me when he took off one of the barrels and left me with an uncentered cannon.
This 5:00 tank to me looks a bit like the amx-13 with the chaffee turret
the drive sprockets need to be higher on the first one
A minute and thirty in and i want to scream "YOUR TRACKS ARE BACKWARDS!" Aaaaaaaaah. The pain!
That apoc tank looks beefy
Fooling around is all good and such, but it is so good when someone just actually tries and doesn’t just randomize stuff to get a good thumbnail
Glad you think so although I will admit I didn't know what half the settings did at the beginning. So... It's not that different from randomising things tbh haha
How he starts losing sanity the first second lmao
For crossing trenches, it would seem to me you need a longer track print(don't know if that's the right terminology), ie the parts of track horizontal to and in contact with the ground. That way when the tank tips forward over the trench the other side of the trench is not met with the upwardly inclined front portion of track, killing momentum, but a flat piece effectively slightly further back. A short track print also fits inside the trench width, effectively locking you in both ends. In short your track print needs to be longer than the width of the trench.
A tank design isn’t truly cursed until it has three or more turrets.
Dude, some of the tanks look like there from animes, others look legit.
“Mom can I have a panzer 2” “No we have a panzer 2 at home…..” :the panzer 2 at home:
Games workshop staff when watching this video: "Write that down! Write that down!!!"
_The instruments of DOOM!_
When I get this game I would make a super tank
3:01 Well, I hope I'm not the only one hearing some version of Hell March...
At 2:58.
"So I went and had made a BAAAANEBLAAAADE!"
I actually have a Leopard 2A4 model in sprocket, you can have it if you want :)
Former tank gunner and jesus the dual barrel designs give me nightmares XD
this game really need a multiplayer
The two turret tank reminds me of apocalypse tank of RA2
Mr.Cleans Trench Eraser! New Product in the Mr.Clean family of products designed to remove 99.9% of French from that trench!
Warhammer 40k called the imperium of man wants they’re tank back 😂
underrated channel!!!!
Thank you!
Have you ever seen a Jadg. panzer IV? it looks like a cheese wedge with a gun.
Boy did i love the royalty free ukulele music over the ww1 tank warfare
9:14 Not that surprising considering how you jumped that tank like it was a Warthog.
For anyone wondering, the game is called Sprocket.
I'm a simple man.
I see Red Alert reference I watch.
"Day of judgement has arrived."
Im seeing all the 40K references, but there are the C@C ones?
i once made not a tank but a litteral formula 1 XD i could hold my laugh .
From my experimenting in trench crossing in sprocket, I have figured out the games doesn't actually consider the tracks, only the wheels (as in, the tracks between road wheels are purely cosmetic, no physics), which seems to be a common 'hack' for tracked vehicles, as circles are much easier for physics than tracks. Anyway, for trench crossing it will often be the case where the sharp edge of the trench wall will end up between the idler/drive sproket and the front road wheel, and wedge itself on the lower glacis. Also a problem when you have really soft suspension, over a trench the front one can over-compress and bottom your tank out. I have had some luck jamming a road wheel waaaay up front so its almost in front of the glacis. Still can't fix the bouncing issue though -_-
First creation was straight up a grot tank
You makes black magic tank that can climb 45 degree angles (how bruh no shit I make can climb over a damn curb) meanwhile I make an equivalent of an MBT that is immortal on three sides.
I worked out that the bigger the sprocket gear, the harder it is for the engine to move (I think!) so smaller gears and more engine power (and more ground clearance) helped to cover rough ground pretty well. But of course it's harder when the tank is heavier lol
I’ve played this game for a since it was made so if you want some tips I can tell you them, maybe I’ll even make a guide on steam.
The mini tank (gold/yellowish and red striped) could of probably been very deadly since it could avoid direct artillery and just go in circles around an enemy tank that’s not as fast and doesn’t have a rotating turret
>late War 7.5t Tank
>in WW1
also, that's easily the hardest mission, just because you get stuck everywhere, even once you cross the trenches. The game really starts on mission two in the Interwar period.
I love this game man! Yeah the map "no tanks land" in WW1, thats full of stucking, you can make good tank, but still you are stucking somewhere.
Man took work from home little to seriously
Bro that first tank is just a leman Russ from war hammer 40k
I don't believe for 1 millisecond this guy was a tank commander
He was a former tank commander for a leopard 2a4
@@thejason1054 I know he says that at the start of every video but something just seems off
@@MightBeAGrimbly What seems off?
People always remember high horse power is nothing without torque!
Just sayin. You need to add the armor too because the based armor is 10mm thick which basically a paper
"actual tank commander"
But leaves side armor facing enemy?
A huge problem with this game is that the tracks don't actually perform like tracks, it's pretty much just the roadwheels that do the work.
Which is even more of a problem when crossing the trenches, the tracks just clip into the trench edge.
You are obliged to build a apoc tank in this game. You just have to.
I already did. But I'll test it out properly in the next video
@@PanzerPaw Hell yeah.
I built the Mammoth Tank instead
I heard your name and subbed instantly
It just floats right other them! Oh.
You make slow tanks with big armour and big guns me on the other hand makes tank that can suicide ram tank to death
I tried small, fast tanks but they kept dying haha
@@PanzerPaw yeah i do have one heavily armored tank but is gun is very bad so a just use medium and light tank
I have certainly found an interesting tank-tuber
looj at ur engine RPM and there are a ton of option for costomizing like, every aspect of the engine, gun, etc
Sort of reminds me of the FV101 Scorpion tank.
Ngl the first tank kinda looks like something from a metal slug game
1:47 erm no, a toyota corolla definitely doesnt have a 24L V6
how many allies you get is dependent on the tank wight
Will sprocket get a online mode or more updates?
cant wait to see if sprocket adds infantry to the game lol
same
@@Eifelwolle same
I thought by definition a tank is something is a AUX MG mounted, the rest are just armored vehicles
Honestly the original definition started from a British codeword to hide what the vehicle even was. And the name just stuck. So, it kind of inherited a very vague definition. These days it's virtually any armoured vehicle with the sole purpose of carrying an artillery caliber gun and fighting on the frontline. Still kind of vague tho haha
@@PanzerPaw a "tank" is the big machine that makes you shit your pants when you see it. at least thats my definition
It's possible make a tank with 2 cannons?
Technically, there's no limit. :)
the reason your tank is slow is possibly because you frogot to change the engine settings
How the hell did you step into a potential furnace every day
Do you not do that too?
8-year-old me would play the piss out of this game
This video made me think everything, but not that you are a tank commander.
Can you make a giant German tank?
Da Red 'unz go Fastah!
Man forgor the armour 💀
I KINDA LOVE THIS GAME I NEED TO BUY IT
Where would the loader sit
Marine Corps or army? I was a .50 gunner for the marines
the first one looks like warhammer 40k
3:40 It's a CVRT !
How are you create that speed? I can't do more than 15 km.
Half of these looks like they're straight from 40k
Wish Toyota corollas actually had 24L v6s
I hope he comes back to Sprocket
I just got the game and I am struggling to understand how you made a tank that small and fast, especially in the WW1 time period.
It's small so it's lighter... And it also basically had no armour. So that helps
@@PanzerPaw thanks for tips
do you play C&C ?
How do i add suspension?