Rebuilding My Automated Hydroponic Garden -1- Intro/Overview
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2022
- It's been awhile. I've been working on revamping my indoor garden powered by Home Assistant and am to the point now where I'd like to start sharing my progress. This will be a quick rundown of what I've got done so far, the plans I have, and the functionality I've built into the updated system.
This system is a work in progress but it'll be fun to publish as I go. Наука
2:10 I really appreciate your mentality not to chase money only, but to benefit every one growing their own garden, and of course your family. Great respect for you sir.
yeah! and now grow some
weed!
Glad to see you back and would love to see regular vids again. Excellent all round system 👏
my man you are the definition of a power user
This is what I wish I could do. Truly awesome work.
awesome look forward to seeing all the new details
Sweet setup! Love your work!
Thanks for sharing I learnt so much from you Over the years. Stay safe and bless
Hey that's awesome, man.
You have a very informative vlog on this subject. Respect and keep up the excellent work. 👏🏼
Welcome back looking forward to this.
Nice looking forward to seeing this project!
Cant wait!! Wonderful work and true inspiration
Cheers
Awesome dude, loving the modifications you have made especially the ultrasonic water level sensor.
Hey Minty, it's been a minute. I think the ultrasonics will work well - they seem to measure pretty consistently and I don't need much precision for the res levels.
Your previous set up inspired me to start my very own automated system using home assistant. Cant wait to see your updated setup and learn more from you! Thank you.
Nicely done. How's it working?
Man, you have come so far! I watched your first video about a year ago. Keep up the amazing content mate, I truly appreciate it.
Thanks a lot - comments like these are truly motivating.
Such dedication to indoor gardening, it makes sense for anyone with Canadian winters. Unbelievable! The gear, the tents, the sensors, it makes my head spin. Congrats on setting goals and segmenting your grow areas into manageable zones. Really hoping to follow along as you get up and running.
Thanks Matt. I hope my veggies turn out as well as yours do.
I am waiting eagerly for you to release it. Definitely, I will support this. Hope it will come soon.
I’ve been waiting for this update!!! Getting started on my own build soon
Nice. Good luck!
Yoooooooo it's my hero my mentor who doesn't even know it. I build and sell grow lights because of you haven't worked in 3 years. I truly appreciate your knowledge
Hey, that's awesome, man. Way to go.
Links bro.
@@jamess1787 I'm in the Chicago area. Haven't figured shipping out I bring it to your front door lol
Dude, I'm glad you're back! And finally, you showed something more global than a test of different lighting lamps. It is very interesting and useful to many people and me. Thanks for sharing!
Hey dart. I think my viewers are probably 50% automation nerds, 50% light nerds. Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad to get back into automation stuff as well.
just gorgeous.
WOW… this is amazing! 👍
oh yea love to see the updates!
Welcome back!…I hope. I really enjoy your videos and I hope to see more on this project
Thanks man, it'll be a fun project.
Thank you for this video !
Since watching your home assistant series I’ve been hooked. Looks like you are making a ton of progress. Nice. Love the PCB idea, I’ll have to look into this.
It's addictive, isn't it? I lose sleep thinking of things I could automate.
@@LEDGardener Ha, exactly how I feel. It’s certainly a rabbit hole. I have sensors and monitors on things that I don’t really need them on just because I’ve ran out of ideas. I’m tempted to switch to a reservoir system. Do you have a preference or find one to be more accurate between scales or an ultrasonic way of measuring your reservoir? I’m sure they are both good.
@@kumd The scale will be more accurate. The problem with the scale is that if you have a constant weight on it, it will drift. Mine drifts very slowly though so I just check and recalibrate every few weeks.
@@LEDGardener How much drift are you getting? How long have you been using them? Is the drift or accuracy getting worse over time?
@@danp762 I remember checking it a year ago or so - I think it had drifted so it was off by like .25 liters over 6 months or something. The drift does not seem to worsen. I typically had 60 or 70 liters sitting on the scale.
i'm speechless, this project of yours is such an inspiration... i admire you xd
i'll be trying to recreate your first system from scratch until i learn enough to create my own pcb and start much cleaner "rebuild"...
looking forward to more videos of yours, instant sub from me
Very nice!
Please make a video on the process you went through for making your own pcb! Great stuff here man! I wish iw as this far along, but im getting there.
Hermano , esto es una obra de arte de la ingeniería !!!! Es mi sueño , el sueño dorado jaja realmente estoy sorprendido y me motiva a seguir con mis proyectos hidroponicos 💪 gracias por compartir tu sabiduria !
Nice work. It has a kind of "cyberpunk" look and feel to it.
Found your posts on Reddit. Just wanted to thank you. I’m bedridden but just got a Farmstand 36 plant system and would love to automate it. Not sure how to get it done most easily because of my limitations but hoping I’ll figure out the simplest way that would minimize the amount of time I have to spend maintaining it.
its just amazing ! keep up the good work
We need a guide on the fan stirring! Looks beautiful I will be stealing that idea!
Loving this content💚🔥🔥🔥💨💯
Bravo man!!!!!!!
This is looking great! I need to create some PCB's and 3D print some cases for a few projects around here.
I wondered if I could truly justify the purchase of a 3D printer but I’m glad I bought one because I use the thing all the time. It’s fantastic for those who like to tinker.
Nice preview. I am also thinking about building something like that - but in tiny. Just for the kitchen top.
Nice. A micro-microgarden.
He’s back!
This is awesome. I watched most of the first videos and I want to give this a go. I have HA, done some ESPs, and other stuff with HA and Smartthings. Have you by chance posted your part list? Probably a big ask, but figured I would give it a go. Thanks!
Man, I've been waiting for this!! Always innovating!!! I wonder if you could provide purchasing links/ Amazon links to everything?
For sure, I'll be compiling some drawings and parts lists when I've put everything through its paces and can vouch for the parts.
Thanks for sharing! Would you consider using the raspberry pi pico w to make the humidity/temp sensor wireless?
Well done! what a great job. I'm building something similar too and your work inspires me 💪
Right on. Indoor garden?
@@LEDGardener yup 😉
Man this is really coming together! Those control boxes are so clean! I'd love to see some detail on what connectors you use for all the wiring as it all looks very clean. I always get lost in digikey trying to figure out what keywords to use to find the connectors I want lol. I'll definitely be following along!
Thanks man. For sure - I'll include a parts list when I go over the PCBs in more detail.
Really great set up. I'm also impressed with how neatly you wired up your projects. Mine end up looking like a rats nest. I'll take inspiration and make my next project wiring more like yours 😀. I'd love to see your automation or code for calibrating the pH probe. I'm kinda stumped on how to use the Atlas Scientific probes in an MQTT Wifi system that can also calibrate the probe using the UART or I2C bus. I hope you'll share how you do it!
Thanks! This iteration is much cleaner for sure. I think it should be fairly simple to implement. Just need to tie some actions into ESPhome to fire off the calibration strings.
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I was just watching through your videos in the past few weeks hoping that you would revisit this series. Wish granted!
Alright, you've got 2 left and remember - you cannot wish for more wishes. I know it's bullshit but I don't make the rules.
Fantastic Job, you learn fast man. I'm currently working on a HA grow system following your previous videos. I'm using a Wii Board as a Scale, that uses MQTT to send data to HA.
Nice!
Could you make a pointer on how you used the Wii board? Or point to something that helped you?
@@l0gic23 I can help you step by step. I had to modify a script i found that uses a wii board to measure beer in a fridge.
Man i love the effort you have put in, a list of all the products in the description or website would be great.
For sure. Once I've put everything through its paces I will share a parts list.
@@LEDGardener Great stuff, Im keen to put my hydroponics into automation. outstanding work bud
How are you using the ultrasonic sensor to measure water level? I’ve been trying to use one to measure water level in the same style tank and I find the echo-y-ness of the tank to give really bad readings. I’m using the one of the waterproof ones.
I like the videos. Thanks for sharing.
I'm doing someting similar with esp32s, a raspiberry pi, and HA. I designed a PCB and had JLCPCB assemble it. It can read 18 moisture sensors, 2 water level switches and output (19) 24 volt AC for watering solenoids or contactors. It has ESD, surge, and overcurrent protection on all inputs/outputs that leave the enclosure.
I'm writing the firmware in Arduno. Once, I figured out how to get entries into HA it been pretty easy. I want all my nodes to operate independently. Just in case something goes wrong with the Pi or router. I am planning on using HA as an UI and to notify me if there is a problem.
It's been pretty hard finding up to date examples of projects using HA that are easy to follow. It seems they update HA a lot fast than the documentation. Maybe I'm doing it wrong and the is a good place to find good info. I just haven't found it.
Is the Raspiberry Pi and HA really reliable enough to run your garden without a fail safe?
Very cool. HA has been stable in my experience. If it goes down, my garden isn't exactly mission-critical though. From time to time I'll have to reboot my Pi but I'm happy with its performance.
@@LEDGardener Do you know the reason the Pi is going down? Is it possible to add a esp32 to monitor the MQTT server on the Pi and reset the Pi if it goes down?
@@danp762 I'm not sure - it's usually just a networking thing I think. Often it can be resolved just be unplugging/plugging the ethernet cable on the Pi. Could be a result of updates or changes I make in HA and it really doesn't happen that often. Maybe a few times in a year. You could program around it pretty easily, like you've suggested.
That looks very promising! I have a suggestion for a future addition to your system: it would be very interesting to track energy and water consumption to measure efficiency. This could be helpful to find optimal values for certain parameters of the system and to compare performance with other agriculture methods.
PCB design is a big level up from the older version! The youtube channel Phil's Lab has some very good content on that subject if you want to check it out.
I just discovered your channel and I think its amazing! Thank you for sharing your knowledge :)
Not a bad idea; thanks for the suggestion and recommendation.
Would love to know how the Ph pumps work.
Happy to see you posting again!
Maybe one day we could do a colab... you inspired me to work on my controller
Cheers, eco. I love the magnetic strip holders you've got.
Thanks for the incredible videos! Hoping you get a chance to tinker with the Conductivity stamps at some point. Cheers!
Holy cow, thank you! I've got one on hand that I'll be using in my new little control box with all the peristaltic pumps. Are you building yourself a system?
@@LEDGardener Yeah, I started with your videos and was doing something pretty similar. Got to the point of building my own PCB with the same stamps, but had to shelve the project as we moved houses and the new basement isn't quite prepped for grow operations yet. Excited to gain inspiration from your new setup!
Awesome. Glad to see the word “yet” in there. Hope it’s up and running and ready for tinkering soon!
Off topic but can you do a review and a build diy with the new 1000w HLG HVCG driver
You probably work for NASA or you could haha. Keep up the amazing work. Can't wait to see some plants in there.
Ha! I just know a little bit about networking, a little bit about electronics, a little bit about programming - enough to know what to google to find answers from actual experts.
Damn dude. I've got a year into rdwc, and I've been searching for someone who is automating things this much. I'm glad I found you,but I see everything is a year old. Are you still active? Cheers
hey dude thnx for all information.Could you share the latest version of your code?
Hey bro I love ur projects and I wonna try recreating them for my hydroponics but I’m a complete newbie for electronics and coding can u make a video with all instructions thankz man it helps a lot 🙏
Be careful with the cable length when unsing I2C, if I rember it right it shouldn't be longer than 1 meter.
Also your videos are great and inspired me more than once to keep tinkering on my own garden.
I’ve been passing i2c 10-15 feet on cat 6 by using pull-up resistors on both ends and by running each data wire back on its own twisted pair where the other conductor is ground. It didn’t work until i added the resistors at the field end too.
Super awesome setup!
One thing on sensors: sensiron sht30 and 40 series are considerably more accurate than bme280. I tested any sensors for a long time, including bme280s and bme680s, and the bmes tend to have some shift. Other sensors agree but the BME often is the outlier.
Bme680 did not provide very meaningful air quality measurements on top of temp, humidity and pressure, so not worth the extra cash on top of the bme280 price.
But in general, sensiron are not much more expensive and more precise.
I have co2 sensors to try (from Adafruit, but a bit expensive at 50 bucks a pop).
I will post a mini review on your forum when I have some meaningful data to share.
I really want to try the SCD40 for CO2 monitoring. Wouldn't mind giving the SHT's a go as well but I haven't gotten around to ordering one. Thanks for your input.
just to add i noticed ruuvi changed from using the BME280 to the sensiron SHTC3
Where do I start from if I want to build a system like this?
Congratulation you did a great work and clear explanation I hope if you put the connection diagram send with my best regards wish you all the best
Thanks for sharing!
You have come to the same conclusions I have in many cases and I am really impressed that you have gone way beyond what I've done with pumps, magnetic stirrers, custom PCB and the weight sensors for the nutrients.
I am on the verge of buying myself a 3D printer myself as what is holding my tinkering back is the lack of enclosures for my gadgets.
I have a grow room sensor that uses the same dallas sensor, other sensors for measuring CO2 (my home office is the grow room) , temperature and humidity that I would like to enclose in a nice manner.
I am also making a NFT system for lettuce and such but sourcing big reservoirs is challenging where I live, I might need to settle for a smaller one that I need to top up more often.
What is your experience with the pH sensor and have you considered including a ec sensor to your system?
Also, are you controlling fans, humidity and such in your grow tents?
I have an Atlas EC probe in my nute mixing reservoir and as I mentioned in the video, I have space to add an EC circuit to each PCB if I can afford them in the future - it'd be nice! I am controlling exhaust fans via PWM and will be humidifying the whole space on a controlled outlet.
@@LEDGardener Thanks for the swift reply!
A great setup indeed!
Looks a lot like what I want to accomplish in the future.
I am looking forward to the next video. :)
Atlas Scientific parts don't seem to be available anymore, any alternatives you recommend?
Looks great. As a huge homeassistant nerd I was looking to see if this was done already! A few quick questions. Are your PCB and 3D designs public? Is there a community for this?
The amount of options are pretty overwhelming. I would love to see a video or write up about a budget friendly, basic HA hydro setup. Maybe a video about what you've bought that isn't worth it too. Regardless awesome video, thanks for the inspiration.
Thanks Matthew. The designs are not yet public but will be.
How much did the ardumio and the other component in this set up cost you?
Have you managed to calibrate the Ph sensor from HomeAssistant/ESPHome? As far as I've seen most people use mqtt, or an extra microcontroller to send calibration codes.
I'm tempted to modify the file so I can fire the commands through ESPHome. I built my own custom component in ESPHome for the IR sensors so I think I could pull it off now... it was a hell of a learning curve though.
I’m very interested in your hydroponic growing. Anyway you could do a beginner series on it all?
Hey Carter. I don't think I'm good enough at the actual growing aspect of it to put out a series on it at this point - maybe in a few years - haha. There are many more experienced growers out there with great tutorials and hydro content that I would suggest watching instead. I quite enjoy the Everest Fernandez channel, for example.
Will you make a video of how you are currently using the Atlas PH stamp and calibration. The probe was previously unsupported in ESPHOME . And ypu used a arduino and MQTT to pass the Data? Now that the probe is in ESPHOME I assume you are using that? if so how do you run calibration from HA? as of now in order to calibrate the probe is have to connect it to a arduino change it to serial, calibrate it from the sketch. then change it i2c and connected to a esp32 running ESPHOME. I hope all that makes sense.
Was working on this this morning and got it figured out with the help of an old pull request I found on the ESPhome repo. I have 3 buttons in Home Assistant that I can use to fire out mid, low, and high calibration commands now.
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Thnks somuch for the video. Did you considered a lux or PAR meter? So you can measure the amount of light hitting the canopy to calculate the DLI and dim the light to save energy?
I have a handheld PAR meter that I just spot check the tents with currently. Not a bad idea if a cheap one could be found that runs on i2c.
@@LEDGardener Hi wich PAR sensor you are using, all I found are around 400 usd, too expensive for beginers?
@@jedandecko5585 Yeah, they ain't cheap. I guess mine is not really "handheld" as I first said, but I can hold it and hook it up to a multimeter to spot check. It's an Apogee SQ500.
@@LEDGardener You can use any MCU with voltage divider and hookit up to analog in to get precise reading as a permanent solution :) sites in Europe selling it for 430 USD. Still too much for my budget. Thank you on your answer & for sharing your knowledge and hard work.
Yeah I’m using it in my PPFD measuring rig - I have a little Arduino interface for it to gain up the output voltage from it since it’s too low directly from the model of sensor I have.
Looking great, have you moved away from the ruuvi temp/humidity sensors?
I think they are still my favourite temp/humidity solution but god are they expensive. Using BMEs was a nice easy way to measure those values and I was able to put them on the same cable as my infrared sensor since they all run on i2c.
@@LEDGardener awesome 👍🏼
considering building a system with Ha myself but do not quite know if HA is reliable enough as it can hang and sometimes mqtt messages doesnt not reach. what is your thought on that?
Depends how mission-critical your system is, I guess. I can deal with having to power cycle it once every couple months but that may not be acceptable to some.
hey wow it's coming along great. Ought to try the ultrasonic sensor for water level now. Have you found that water flow meters aren't as effective or something?
If you had the time, i'm sure many of us would love to see a higher level schematics of how the electronic components are hooked up! Will be following along. Thanks for the update.
Definitely. Like my last project, I'll be sharing some drawings and parts lists. How would you implement flow meters?
@@LEDGardener sorry - i meant a float switch. a sensor special built for sensing water levels. any reason you selected one over the other?
Ultrasonic seemed like an easy way to do it. Have you got a link to a product like you're talking about that would work for say detecting level 0-12" or 0-18"?
How are the atlas sensors pH and EC sensors ? Do you have any experience with the Dfrobot PH & EC sensors ? Can't find any trusted reviews on these sensors.
The atlas stuff is fantastic. Personally I don’t think I’d buy any other brand.
Hi! Any issues on pH Up/down damaging the peristaltic pump tubes? Had a few issues on it, not sure if it's because of the tube material 🤔
Hey Sebastian, I have not yet run any through my new pumps so I'll have to see. On my older pumps on the main control box door, I noticed initially that the pH down was hard on the little white plastic "joiner" pieces that go between the silicone tubes on the pumps and whatever tubes you connect to them. I watered the pH solutions down after this and it seemed to be okay.
@@LEDGardener Hi man, i just opened a catering business so very little time as i have to do all on my own but still interested on the "old" control box, finished mine a long time ago and it works great but i had the same problem as sebastián as the acid was leaking trough the seal, the solution was an acid resistant tube for me.. anyway i tested the first pcb(the little red one for the light/vent/temp) i sent you and it works, now some days ago i got the pcb for the main control box and as soon i have time will test them out.. for you it has no use as you changed the system but if you wish i can send you the gerber for the main pcb let me know.
wish you the best.
@@user-bl8cu5pn4x Hey buddy, congrats on getting that done. Can you link to the tube you used?
@@LEDGardener a friend of mine which works in pharmaceutical field gave it to me sorry..
Really cool, makes me considering buying a 3d printer. And everything so cleanly done, wow.
Do you experience wifi to be reliable enough? Did you consider a wired protocol, like ethernet?
I prefer to hardwire when I can, but the WiFi connection for the ESP32s has proven remarkably reliable for me over the past couple years so I saw no need to run cat to each box. I'm not sure which microcontroller I'd use for a wired connection anyway.
@@LEDGardener I understand. I got some good experience with the Olimex POE devices, as ethernet connected mcu.
How Mutch throughput in Liters/Gallons do you have for your NFT system ? I’m trying to build one and I don‘t know how big I should choose the Pumpe :/
I will measure it and let you know. I'm shooting for 2L per minute and hope to use as small of a pump as possible to save power.
@@LEDGardener thanks for the replay. I really liked your old system, especially the stirrings system
I thought about doing it, now I don’t want to anymore
Hey man, I’m totally in love with your work! What program/tool do you use to print the PCB’s? Also, what 3D printer and software do you use! I’m addicted to your work and learning it!
I used EasyEDA to draw the PCBs and then I had them printed by JLPCB. The printer I use is a Creality Ender 3 Pro and I use Sketchup to draw stuff up to print. Thanks!
@@LEDGardener okay :) perfect, thanks dude!
I take it JLPCB is a Canadian company?
Nope. They’re in China. You can export the gerber file straight out of EasyEDA to JLPCB
what are the lights you have over your NFT setup?
Bridgelux EB strips
Can you specify how you managed to build your pcb boards?
I would really like to talk to you if possible :)
Yup, I'll cover this.
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Do you have link how to run rpi4/HA/ssd?
I like this one: ruclips.net/video/QxtDyMbDOh4/видео.html
Hey! Neighbour!
From the land of two oh four
I just came back from MB - I lucked out with the weather I think because it was just about 0 most of the time.
Price increases incoming. Ie: Atlas Scientific, to name one.
The future is now.
Can we buy these boards?
I'm not currently planning on selling them but I do intend to open source them.
@@LEDGardener Any chance you can go over the board in detail?
Or do you have schematics? This board is just what I been looking for.
Any chance it will be open source on pcbway?
Si mejor facilitarlo, si lo haces más fácil multiplicas visualizaciones
Just found the original video. This one looks way way more complicated
lol, it is illegal to grow canabis in Quebec.
Hey! I really like what you are doing,
I was trying to connect with you,
I'm working on somethig cool that I would like to share with you,
Wha'ts he best way to reach you?
Cheers!
i need a video on how to make a cheep ph matter
Pls stop teasing us with tomatoes and get to the good stuff!