I played only a 12 string for a week...featuring

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @BobPerrone
    @BobPerrone 2 года назад +7

    I live on 12 strings. I've been composing and performing on 12 string for almost 60 years, including a 12 string harp guitar. Like an orchestra in your lap!

  • @davidkrause6990
    @davidkrause6990 2 года назад +5

    Neil Diamond’s “Solidarity Man” is one of my favorite 12 string songs.

  • @musiqman7
    @musiqman7 7 месяцев назад +1

    Great review! I'm left with a couple of questions. What gauge strings did you put on it when you made the change (Orangewood's site states they're Ernie Ball Medium Light - which I can't verify exist in a 12-string configuration) and where's the tuner battery compartment and what battery does it take? I know Orangewood support can help me, but in terms of a thorough review I thing it would be great info to include. I like the Ivory soap trick, it's a lot cheaper than nut sauce.

  • @williamcatalano1762
    @williamcatalano1762 2 года назад +1

    Getting ready to buy my first 12 soon. Played one once when I was 18 at a friends house and loved it and ever since have wanted one but put it on the back burner until now. It was a super cheap Fender 12. I want to try and not break the bank but want an all solid one. You should do a video on different tunings on 12 strings and how to do it like what a whole or half step down means, what is open tuning, but yeah. Excellent video Jeremy!

  • @johnmcrae3221
    @johnmcrae3221 2 года назад +3

    Jeremy, if you end up liking the 12-string too much, people may think you are John Denver 2. Just joking, but he sure played a lot of his music on the 12-string. I watched you finger- pick and I agree, the music thins out. I think the reason you still hear the matching string is in physics. the tone from the one string in a pair makes the second one in the pair sing also. I have had the same experience on my old Guild 12-string. Thanks for a great video.

    • @johnmcrae3221
      @johnmcrae3221 2 года назад

      I should have said the frequency of the string note, rather than the tone.

  • @MrDaveKC
    @MrDaveKC 2 года назад +2

    I have and absolutely love my mid 70's Guild 12 string. It's an incredibly beautiful sounding guitar! I use it often at church as well.

    • @dancnkc
      @dancnkc 5 месяцев назад

      I have the large body Guild 12 string and it will never leave my keep. Nothing else sounds the same for less than $2,000.

  • @bigmac51290
    @bigmac51290 2 года назад +4

    What it did for me was make my 6 string feel like butter after the 12 string urge left my system.

  • @danielriccabona-guitar
    @danielriccabona-guitar 2 года назад +1

    Hey Jeremy! Great video! 12 strings are a miraculous thing IMO. What I found is that when fingerpicking you can get plenty of low-end if you play the thumb with more contact to the string(s), almost like playing a rest stroke. Not going just across the strings but also pressing them down a bit more playing more 'inward' (don't know if that makes sense...). Also it's not so much a matter of which string to play first but playing them both at the same time. And no question some guitars have more bass response than others. My Guild F-2512E (being fairly affordable) has a huge bass sound! I really agree with the octave g-string being too fickle though I think the main issue with that is that being a third above the high e-string it really can interfere with playing melodies regularly jumping above the highest notes of the melody but this also can make for some nice effects that you wouldn't get from a 6 string. The renaissance and baroque lutes, guitars and vihuelas also have pairs of strings in octaves and there is some really intricate stuff written for those. Not the same obviously but still... Needless to tell you about the early Blues players like Leadbelly or later the likes of John Fahey or Leo Kottke but also (if you haven't already) do check out Robbie Basho who was a great great 12 string player and often gets overlooked these days!

  • @1boortzfan
    @1boortzfan 2 года назад

    Jeremy the new strings make a big difference. Great job.

  • @soniah4821
    @soniah4821 2 года назад +1

    Hi Jeremy, I strung up a 12 string for the first time last night - what a task though. When i finally got it in tune, it sounded amazing; it was dynamic. I used Elixir Nano 10/47s. This is my first 12 string. My cousin gave me this old Yamaha that needed serious cleaning and adjusting. Now I got it playing and looking forward to messing around with it.

  • @JPs_Music_Channel
    @JPs_Music_Channel 2 года назад +2

    2021 Guild 512 is an incredibly beautiful sounding instrument AND hardly ever needs tuning.

    • @thomasmoore1003
      @thomasmoore1003 2 года назад

      I recently got a f1512 and it's the same.

  • @rzh3443
    @rzh3443 2 года назад +1

    I also have a Taylor 12 string. Low action, nut cut properly, and stays in tune even with their stock tuners. I finally settled on a G7 12 string capo which has a “serrated “ pressure bar to better match your finger flexibility. If I had to buy again, I would buy a Taylor 8 string which gives the 12 string jangle pretty well.

  • @thekeyofdmusicchannel5963
    @thekeyofdmusicchannel5963 2 года назад +1

    The 12 string has been considered my 'signature' guitar since the mid 70s. I have a Guild F2512E that I just love. I use it at church and on our Key of D Facebook videos. It ran about the same price as this Orangewood and it amazes me that it holds it's tuning so well; much better than the Orangewood you demo'd.

    • @dancnkc
      @dancnkc 5 месяцев назад +1

      My Guild holds its tune for at least a week and usually two weeks with active playing. It takes 5 minutes to tune them up.. The best spent 5 minutes I can think of when it comes to acoustic guitar

  • @missioncreekfarm7715
    @missioncreekfarm7715 2 года назад

    My only guitar for around 25 years was a Yamaha FG260-12. I got a D-12 (Martin 12 string) about 20 years into that. I gave the FG26 to a firend, then the Martin was stolen. Went to 6 string - NOT the same intrument. Have 4 guitars, all 6's, but now want another 12.

  • @dalesearcy5734
    @dalesearcy5734 Год назад

    Before I had to quit playing 12 string guitar due to hand issues. I would remove the Bass Octave string and double up on the G wound strings. I really liked the way that sounded but I could only play 3 or 4 songs before my hands hurt.
    I have mentioned to you before that I replaced the 12 string with a Guild Baritone 8 string and an Alvarez 8 string standard guitar.
    The Guild lives in C# or D and the Alvarez lives in D#. I love playing these guitars. I get a lot of the 12 string sound and my hands don't hurt from playing them, even the Baritone.
    I really don't miss the 12 string now.

  • @johnwashburn3793
    @johnwashburn3793 2 года назад +3

    I love a good 12 string. I came close to buying an old Guild that was already gone when I went back for it the next day. I can relate to the difference of a new instrument. I have started playing 3 string cigar box guitar tuned open 1 5 1 (GDG or EBE). I recently got a 4 string GDGB, a whole new learning curve. I still love my 6 strings but the wife says I have too many.

    • @kevinsnyder4425
      @kevinsnyder4425 2 года назад +1

      John, you can NEVER have enough guitars... my wife even asked me if i wanted one for Christmas.!! She has never asked me that before ! I told her she can't afford it. ! Even guitar t-shirts - don't have enough of those either. ! Ask her how many shoes & purses she has... Maybe don't ask....

    • @johnwashburn3793
      @johnwashburn3793 2 года назад +1

      @@kevinsnyder4425 Kevin, I truly appreciate your comment, concern and sentiment. I smiled and gave great consideration to my reply. Proverbs 18:22 states "he who has found a wife has found a good thing and receives favor from the Lord "
      I have a great wife. I have many guitars and would buy another if I desired one...and I can afford pretty much anything. I probably have guitars older than you.
      You sound as if you also have a good wife. I suggest you buy her something very special for Christmas and select your own guitars as they pop up and the money is there. Set aside money for retirement and college funds, etc
      I am legally blind, my wife is very considerate and she never asks for anything. Yes, I have used the shoes and purses argument,and she quit buying them. I have found a very good thing!!
      I have amps and guns too (more ammo perhaps? )
      Jeremy actually has taught me to appreciate the guitars I have....and I really enjoy cigar box guitar. I now have 3, two 3 stings and one four string. Google them. I have a Del Puckett guitar and a Southern Fire plus my first which is amazing mostly but unknown.
      All in all, love your wife. Save and invest. Appreciate every moment, every sunset, every guitar you have now. Yes, this channel makes me desire more and better, but I have plenty of great guitars now and I enjoy them daily. Jeremy is my son's age and I started late.

    • @kevinsnyder4425
      @kevinsnyder4425 2 года назад +1

      @@johnwashburn3793 thanks for the GREAT reply ! I also retired @ 67 because I have some issues with my health, but all in all, God has been so good to me.! I don't know who has more guitars ( I'm getting close to 20) but who is counting ) a lot of mine have been freebies, because people gave up on them, or were auction items for cheap.! My oldest is a 1930- 35 College Pal that someone used for hawaiian slide music. It came with old books that date to 1928 - 35.! It needs very little work to be playable again. Been in a case for years. As for my wife, I agree with Proverbs about mine also. She comes first next to the Lord.! She never wants much for herself, and puts others first.! Been married 38 yrs. ! You sound like a great guy, John. Take care of both of you. !

    • @johnwashburn3793
      @johnwashburn3793 2 года назад +1

      @@kevinsnyder4425 I always thought that most of the viewers here are around our age.
      I have always wanted a Telecaster and if the right one shows...
      But I don't play electric guitar often and truly have no need for it. I play accoustic and usually the same ones, whichever is handy or has fresh strings. Today it was a 4 string cigar box guitar. I about have it figured out
      Take care and Merry Christmas 🎄 🎸

  • @kevinsnyder4425
    @kevinsnyder4425 2 года назад

    Jeremy, I bought a basket case Jason 12 string a few years ago, and haven't repaired it yet. Bridge pulled up, and needs a neck reset. Back was painted with a black spray can. !! Have you ever heard of a Jason ? Late 60's to early 70s. Very well made guitar ! Great video. !

  • @jeffsquires6620
    @jeffsquires6620 2 года назад +1

    I played my 12 continually and exclusively for 3 years, until I needed a refret. It never comes out of tune and very jangly. 20 years old now and looks brand new. My only Taylor.

  • @scottrill17
    @scottrill17 2 года назад +1

    Leo kotke and John Fahey were two amazing 12-stringers who played them almost like six strings.

  • @jaylynhernandez5083
    @jaylynhernandez5083 Год назад

    Yamaha FG820-12 with a thumb pick sounds amazing

  • @charliev337
    @charliev337 2 года назад

    I picked up a Taylor 12 string (652ce). It only has 6 bridge pins, so 2 strings go into one hole on the bridge. It stays in tune for a long time and sounds like a dream!

  • @HayesTech
    @HayesTech 2 года назад

    Lol.. When you said you didn't have to do a jump cut on the word "eccentricities" it reminded me of how many jump cuts I have to do in my videos because of my stroke issue...lol.. I just made me laugh. Awesome video again. Keep up the great stuff you do. And I used to love the 12 string guitars I had too. But stick to 6 strings now.

  • @texhaines9957
    @texhaines9957 2 года назад +1

    There are some hymns best done with a 12 or 10 or 9 string. And then there are the Seekers (Another You, Georgie Girl).

  • @bigkeg9173
    @bigkeg9173 2 года назад

    I have had a Cimar 12 string for 40 years.
    I fell in love with "Baby" 1st time I played her.
    She's needs some work, the bridge is lifting and needs a neck reset, but I'll have her till I die 😊

  • @pmscalisi
    @pmscalisi 2 года назад +1

    I know you don’t like Ovations, my 1968 Balladeer 12 string is a wonderful instrument.
    It’s very clear and unjangly. And super easy to play. It has a slotted headstock which is a nightmare to string, for me anyway.
    As a side note my brother played 12s almost exclusively for 25 years.

    • @donaldcook3112
      @donaldcook3112 2 года назад

      . . . Must have 'missed' Jeremy's mention as to 'why' he dislikes Ovations. Never heard a better sounding and looking ...
      'orthodox' acoustic than the 'Custom Legend' both 6 and 12 strings - especially
      plugged in . And then comes the chiming
      A D A M A S majesty . U n m a t c h e d .

    • @pmscalisi
      @pmscalisi 2 года назад

      @@donaldcook3112 he’s said it several times because he thinks acoustic guitars should totally be made of wood.

  • @eath2496
    @eath2496 2 года назад

    i love my danelkectro 12 string when i first got it i exclusively played it for maybe 4 months then i picked up my 6 string and realised that i need to play the 6 as well to keep up the techniques that i don't use on the 12. the 12 is amazing you can have very simple things sound so full and magical, i know gear doesn't make you a better player but getting that 12 made me a better player simply by playing the guitar more

  • @MoviesNStuff
    @MoviesNStuff 2 года назад

    Great video!

  • @Bobred1965
    @Bobred1965 2 года назад +2

    My 12 string Yamaha FG-411 stays in tune and has for 28 years.

  • @thekobra_18
    @thekobra_18 10 месяцев назад

    Jairo busca la Orangewood Echo 12 Live. Se ve buena guitarra

  • @josephfisher1691
    @josephfisher1691 2 года назад

    I play 12 strings exclusively(except for my little excursions on bass)....my Takamine and Alvarez are my go-to axes. Occasionally my Taylor or Denelectro see some duty....

  • @johnmcrae3221
    @johnmcrae3221 2 года назад

    By the way, thanks for your discussion on what makes that ticking noise. My 12-string has done that for years, and it always makes my heart skip a beat. So glad to know what causes that and how to fix it. It will soon be me and the pencil or using graphite.

  • @MoviesNStuff
    @MoviesNStuff 2 года назад

    My friend recommended me to you because he knows you, and great video, it’s weird to see yourself standing standing at the counter of a music store is a random video

  • @michaelallsup1
    @michaelallsup1 2 года назад

    I bought this guitar about two weeks ago, love it. I just gave away my old washburn 12 string from 95. Now that guitar had opened up and has bass like crazy. My orangewood has been staying in tune very well for a jew guitar this time of year. Cant wait till it really opens up.

  • @alinchitown7556
    @alinchitown7556 2 года назад

    I own a DeAngelico which I absolutely love, for what I paid for it 5 years ago it compares to any 12 String at 3X the price. Funny your playing an Orangewood I just ordered The Mason Torrefied Spruce Live can’t wait to get it.

  • @younkinjames8571
    @younkinjames8571 2 года назад +1

    This makes me want to do the 7 day 12 string challenge. Mine just stays tucked in its case way too much!

  • @aamapes
    @aamapes 2 года назад +1

    This brings to mind the old saying - with a 12 string you spend half the time tuning, half the time playing out of tune…

  • @tomhampton4595
    @tomhampton4595 2 года назад

    Great video! Doyle Dykes strings his 12s with the base strings up. He says it helps him get more bass out of it. Haven’t tried it yet but will soon.

    • @kevinsnyder4425
      @kevinsnyder4425 2 года назад

      I have heard & seen others doing that as well. I'd love to try it myself.! Doyle Dykes is a great player. !

  • @teemoleague907
    @teemoleague907 2 года назад +1

    Sounds better than the 12 string rogue. I would prefer no tuner so I could route my own preamp with a drimel.

  • @vrmn11
    @vrmn11 2 года назад

    I love my 12 string. I have a played nothing but a 12 string for 7 days a few times. It may be time to do that again

  • @MatthewDavidMontgomery
    @MatthewDavidMontgomery 2 года назад +1

    Family worship? You sound reformed. All the more reason to watch this channel. 😄🙃

  • @neilanderson9151
    @neilanderson9151 Год назад

    My guild 512 with Grovers pretty much stays in tune once you dial it in.

  • @dschneider799
    @dschneider799 2 года назад +1

    have to disagree with the always out of tune comments. I own a 2015 made Martin D1228 which holds its tune very well sometimes for a few weeks at a time. I keep it tuned down a full note and play it with capo on 2nd mostly because of my bad fingers with Martin Silk and Steel Custom Light strings. I find when it is out its not out very much and usually only a couple strings. I never play it hard and almost never with a pick.

    • @JeremySheppard
      @JeremySheppard  2 года назад +1

      I definitely agree with you, great 12 strings like yours will hold tune. D1228 is a monster of a guitar!

    • @dschneider799
      @dschneider799 2 года назад

      @@JeremySheppard and I have said since the day I first played it that its like playing an orchestra much as you describe in this episode

  • @kingrobert1st
    @kingrobert1st 2 года назад

    I only played a 12 string guitar for 7 years (or was it 37?) can't remember.

  • @slbolfing56
    @slbolfing56 2 года назад

    I would like to get another 12 string (currently have a 69 Martin D12-20). I'd like a jumbo - rosewood or maple.
    Your comments about tuning remind of a something I was told when I was young - with a 12 string, you spend half your time tuning & the other half playing out of tune! (But they still sound awesome slightly out of tune!)

  • @geoffreycarter3981
    @geoffreycarter3981 2 года назад

    I've got to say, that, despite the good remarks, to my ears, this guitar is rather thin sounding for a 12 string. I have a Guild JF30-12 jumbo made in Corona and it never needs tuning and it's just so full and deep sounding with no harshness or rattles like this one sounds to me. I'd reserve judgement on a 12 string until you explore a good one! Not that this might not be good value or well made. Could also be the recording, but thought I'd say.

  • @hotlov72
    @hotlov72 2 года назад +2

    7 days with a 12 string, it takes 6 days to tune it

    • @dancnkc
      @dancnkc 5 месяцев назад

      A digital tuner makes it a quick process. The hardest part is remembering which pegs belong to which strings

  • @billprather7711
    @billprather7711 2 года назад

    I have 4 Guild 12 strings and 1 Taylor 12 fret, 12 string - only way to go. Bp

  • @ralphkern380
    @ralphkern380 2 года назад

    I think it was Pete Seeger that said, "With a 12 string guitar, you spend half your time tuning it - and the other half playing out of tune" or words to that effect.
    Oddly enough, I find that (in my opinion) a 12 string sounds best with certain strings slightly out of tune.

  • @saoirsepaddy
    @saoirsepaddy 2 года назад

    12 Strings remind me of 2 things Leo Kottke Music
    Also 12 Strings remind me of Irish Bouzouki
    I never seen any body playing Irish Fiddle tunes on 12 String Guitar.
    I play 10 String Irish Citterns with a flat pick

  • @ClaytonWillisMusic
    @ClaytonWillisMusic 7 месяцев назад +1

    A better quality 12 string doesn't need to be tuned that often

  • @MrRafaztar
    @MrRafaztar 2 года назад +1

    how many times did you end the video lol great one

    • @JeremySheppard
      @JeremySheppard  2 года назад +1

      This one was so weird to try and land and put together. Haha. Thanks

  • @Tbone1952
    @Tbone1952 2 года назад +2

    They never stay in tune!!

    • @dancnkc
      @dancnkc 5 месяцев назад

      I do have to tune mine back up about once a week, but it only takes 5 minutes with a digital tuner.

  • @scottrill17
    @scottrill17 2 года назад

    Are you keeping it or will you be selling? I've been wanting one to play for church if you're planning to sell.

    • @JeremySheppard
      @JeremySheppard  2 года назад

      I'll sell. Send me an email info@jeremysheppard.com

  • @neilanderson9151
    @neilanderson9151 Год назад

    I’ve been playing only a 12 string for 12 years

  • @jamesmorrison2063
    @jamesmorrison2063 2 года назад

    I have 2 12 strings. A Martin Grand J12-GTE and a 1978 Taylor 855, (my favorite). They stay in tune. Less is more on a 12 string. In other words, heavy strumming doesn't sound as good as arpeggios and partial chords, (not all the strings). There are exceptions.

  • @mgclark46
    @mgclark46 2 года назад

    I’ve played only a 12 for weeks. It is grounding to do-so.

  • @iryan9
    @iryan9 2 года назад

    All I hear is goo goo dolls as soon as he strums that guitar haha

    • @drewan575
      @drewan575 2 года назад

      12 strings always take me to ‘More Than a Feeling’ by Boston

  • @jed1166
    @jed1166 2 года назад

    As the old saying goes…”12 string players spend half their time tuning, and the other half playing out of tune”… So, either buy a carbon fiber 12 string that WILL stay in tune, or a Taylor 9 string, which I think are way cool!

  • @jefferp
    @jefferp 2 года назад +6

    Favorite bad 12 string joke: Spend half your time tuning…….and half your time playing out of tune.

    • @JeremySheppard
      @JeremySheppard  2 года назад

      Hahah. Truer words have never been spoken.

    • @leesanna7835
      @leesanna7835 2 года назад

      @@JeremySheppard That's a Pete Seeger quote...

  • @JimB802
    @JimB802 2 года назад

    Have you ever heard or have done tuning a 12 string guitar in 5ths? Anyone?

    • @JeremySheppard
      @JeremySheppard  2 года назад

      I have heard of it but it gets a little wonky in some keys.

  • @aldenwilkins
    @aldenwilkins 2 года назад

    Pencils and chapstick will always be lost before used. Always. 😉

  • @texhaines9957
    @texhaines9957 2 года назад

    I use mechanical pencil leads instead of a pencil.

  • @Stratboy999
    @Stratboy999 2 года назад +2

    That's nothing. I learned to play guitar on a 12 string.

    • @kevinsnyder4425
      @kevinsnyder4425 2 года назад

      Me too. My brother has a Conrad 12 string acoustic from the 60's! ( this was in the 60's ) , still has it but it's totally unplayable now - needs a neck reset badly. He hasn't played in years. ! I kept going on guitar, now over 50 years.! They are one way to get your fingers tough.!

  • @slapndbass
    @slapndbass Месяц назад

    Youre child said to tune in GadDad

  • @praski149
    @praski149 2 года назад

    shillllllllllllllllllll