Landing a probe on Venus that could survive long enough to return data successfully is a underappreciated achievement in space exploration. It would difficult to design a more awful collection of environmental conditions.
How about a planet that rains shards of glass? Or where one side of the planet is so hot that rocks literally evaporate and then when the wind blows it to the side that doesn't face the sun, they cool, condense into solid rock and fall back down? Or a planet surrounding a star that belches out so much solar radiation that it would instantly fry anything living or electronic that gets close to it? Because all those planets exist. You can do much than Venus, even with how hostile Venus is.
It’s kind of terrifying how, 60 years after the first images of the surface of Venus, we haven’t collected any new photos, much less sent another probe there.
not really.....its EXTREMELLY EXPENSIVE and why go to that expense now we know the basics, its of no use to us. if we had unlimited funds sure....exploration for its own sake but theres no billions of surplus. how uneducated are you this didnt occur to you
with how much atmospheric pressure there is i was surprised there was so much sand as opposed to flat rock. its crazy what can be believed until you see it first hand.
@pyrelord8763 why? There are mountains and thermal vents at the bottom of our oceans. There are even animals and they are not flat. They equalize their pressure with the environment.
Soviet space program was notable in setting many records in space exploration, including the first intercontinental missile (R-7 Semyorka) that launched the first satellite (Sputnik 1) and sent the first animal (Laika) into Earth orbit in 1957, and placed the first human in space in 1961, Yuri Gagarin. In addition, the Soviet program also saw the first woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, in 1963 and the first spacewalk in 1965. Other milestones included computerized robotic missions exploring the Moon starting in 1959: being the first to reach the surface of the Moon, recording the first image of the far side of the Moon, and achieving the first soft landing on the Moon. The Soviet program also achieved the first space rover deployment with the Lunokhod programme in 1966, and sent the first robotic probe that automatically extracted a sample of lunar soil and brought it to Earth in 1970, Luna 16. The Soviet program was also responsible for leading the first interplanetary probes to Venus and Mars and made successful soft landings on these planets in the 1960s and 1970s. It put the first space station, Salyut 1, into low Earth orbit in 1971, and the first modular space station, Mir, in 1986. Its Interkosmos program was also notable for sending the first citizen of a country other than the United States or Soviet Union into space.
It was amazing how dedicated the Soviets were to exploring such a harsh environment, especially after discovering how useless it would be to ever sending a crew there or colonizing.
I was just thinking about how much it sucks that capitalism stopped allocating money national level space stuff once we realized we couldn't colonize it
@Xynic48The Soviets lost the moon race so they chose Venus as a consolation prize. In doing, they contributed immensely to our knowledge of the planets. This deserves recognition for a truly great achievement which, sadly, most people don’t even know about. Btw, look into NASA’s interest in Soviet rocket engines. You may be surprised.
Yes I agree. The rise and fall of the Sovjet space program and travel. Almost forgotten. After the fall of the communist USSR, some of the brilliant space scientists went out of work as I read in several books.
@wesleyfeldsine7955 Veritasium made a video recently on the same topic. Not necessarily the same technology since time resolution is irrelevant when taking a static picture.
Even as an electrical engineer in the aerospace field, I cannot wrap my head around the amount of work that needed to be done with the technology available back then. With just basic pen and paper and computers with very limited calculation capabilities. And one chance every time, no room for any error to a functional degradation, totally unknown environmental conditions... now calculate the probabilities... wow...
They did the same work you do today with the tools they had. Not sure how a electrical engineer in the aerospace field can't wrap his head around that? Aren't you supposed to be able to think outside of the box...
The sky was orange, the rocks, orange. Orange his house With an orange little window And an orange corvette And everything is orange for him. But for the rest of us, it was yellow.
Can you imagine spending tons of time and resources spending a probe to another planet, just to find out that Steve the intern forgot to remove a lens cap
yea its kinda sad how much propaganda there is because of history. finding about russian or chinese stuff is like state secret in western media. if only the warmongering leaders would get off their ego trip and we could focus more on joint scientific endeavours combining the bright minds from everywhere. russia was coming pretty far in western relations before the ukraine and throwing it all out, usa is threatening invading eu country and china is on taiwans neck. fcked up reality
Soviet space program was notable in setting many records in space exploration, including the first intercontinental missile (R-7 Semyorka) that launched the first satellite (Sputnik 1) and sent the first animal (Laika) into Earth orbit in 1957, and placed the first human in space in 1961, Yuri Gagarin. In addition, the Soviet program also saw the first woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, in 1963 and the first spacewalk in 1965. Other milestones included computerized robotic missions exploring the Moon starting in 1959: being the first to reach the surface of the Moon, recording the first image of the far side of the Moon, and achieving the first soft landing on the Moon. The Soviet program also achieved the first space rover deployment with the Lunokhod programme in 1966, and sent the first robotic probe that automatically extracted a sample of lunar soil and brought it to Earth in 1970, Luna 16. The Soviet program was also responsible for leading the first interplanetary probes to Venus and Mars and made successful soft landings on these planets in the 1960s and 1970s. It put the first space station, Salyut 1, into low Earth orbit in 1971, and the first modular space station, Mir, in 1986. Its Interkosmos program was also notable for sending the first citizen of a country other than the United States or Soviet Union into space.
@Natrium9775 US/NAT0 forced Russia to intervene in ukraine Force the adversary to expand recklessly in order to unbalance him, and then destroy him. This is a plan against Russia elaborated by the Rand Corporation, the most influential think tank in the USA. With a staff of thousands of experts, Rand presents itself as the world’s most reliable source for Intelligence and political analysis for the leaders of the United States and their allies. The Rand Corp prides itself on having contributed to the elaboration of the long-term strategy which enabled the United States to win the Cold War, by forcing the Soviet Union to consume its own economic resources in the strategic confrontation. It is this model which was the inspiration for the new plan, Overextending and Unbalancing Russia, published by RAND in May 2019
This was interesting but your hodgepodge of photos of the surface scattered throughout seem to have no relation to the dialog. Kind of loses the point.
This is just one of these AI videos that are all over the web these days. Although the content itself can be interesting, it pisses me off so much when recnognizing AI remarks, especially the famous contrastive negation marks (it wasnt X. It was Y).
So, like 20 years ago in 'the room' the intense 2000K color temperature during the flowering cycle was basically what it looks like on Venus? I always loved that ambience.
yes and no. Due to venus's lack of atmosphere, the day and night cycle is extreme. Extreme heat enough to likely sizzle a person to death during the day and extreme freezing temperatures at night also enough to likely kill someone from the inside out by freezing the oxygen in the persons suit and freezing over the persons internal organs, shutting them down very quickly. The reason why I also say no is because its much more than just that. The reason why venus shines so brightly in space and towards earth is because theres tons of relfective molecule sized material on venus that bounces light back in all directions which is why it often appears so bright in the night sky despite being a planet and not a star. Every single existant object and thing has some level of reflectance. Theres no such thing as something that has no reflectance. Most things however just dont reflect or repell light strong enough to be significant or noticable or worth caring about. Our planet is far more relfective than venus because of our many bodies of water that encompass the surface of our planet. Its also believed that its why the atmosphere on earth appears as blue during the day, although ive heard of rumours disproving this so im not sure how true or untrue it is. I would say its true based on that one situation in 2017 or 2018 about the sand from the sahara desert blocking out the sun and making the sky appear orange and darker. That tells me that its possible for the atmosphere to reflect colour from within the planet using the light from the sun to change the atmospheres colour depending on what is being reflected.
@unboxing_legend7708 ОТСУТСТВИЕ АТМОСФЕРЫ? Вам 20 минут рассказывают о том что атмосфера там в 90 раз более плотная чем на земле. Поэтому разница температур дня и ночи там должна быть минимальная.
@unboxing_legend7708 Venus is the opposite of “no atmosphere.” It has an extremely dense carbon dioxide atmosphere, about 92 times Earth’s surface pressure, and that is exactly why the surface stays brutally hot all the time. There is no scorching day and freezing night cycle. Even though Venus rotates so slowly that one solar day lasts about 117 Earth days, and its sidereal rotation period of about 243 Earth days is longer than its 225-day year, the surface temperature remains roughly 460 to 475 degrees Celsius both day and night. The thick atmosphere traps and redistributes heat so effectively that there is almost no meaningful temperature drop after sunset. Venus appears bright from Earth mainly because its global cloud cover reflects a large amount of sunlight and because it is relatively close to us. The orange or yellow cast seen in surface images is due to atmospheric filtering and scattering of light, not darkness or a lack of atmosphere.
@TommyLikeTomI'd like to see a new one with modern tech using a nice thick layer of aerogel, and some cooling tech... Would be interesting to see how long a probe could last. I'd also be interested to see an attempt to make one that floats in the atmosphere at higher elevations where heat is lower.... Just a buoyant insulated Metal sphere with a vacuum inside it would likely float?
Really strange how here on Earth enough cloud coverage will turn the sky dark as night especially if it's a thunderstorm, yet on Venus despite there being 90 atmosphere worth of clouds sun light still gets through.
Untouched yeah but I don't think they will be eternal like the things that have landed on the moon. Laying aside the corrosion effects The extremely unstable surface area sooner or later will probably bury the landers in lava.
@7bombarie Titanium melts at 1,668°C. It forms a protective oxide layer at Venus temperature of 450°C. It's still there and will be for a long, long time.
12:02 I don't understand why so many people say that Venus is "orange." It looks like a lemon yellow to me. Only that image on the top right looks orange.
@jasons7070 in these particular images the orange is a summed intensity of the light received through colored filters. SO it is most likely a low-intensity red, with *maybe* some green mixed in. without seeing the raw data, it is impossible to guess very accurately at all
@sOvr9000 red and yellow creates orange while brown is achieved by mixing blue and orange, red and green, or yellow and purple, or by combining all three primary colors (red, yellow, and blue).
It is brutal out there today and it sucks because you can't stay outside longer than a few minutes before frostbite starts to set in. This is a direct result of them messing with our weather and trying to play god.
I remember watching a BBC Horizon documentary in the ninety's or two-thousands, when the BBC actually made programmes that were good. It was in that documentary that I first heard about the pressure tests they made on these Venera probes, in one test they actually disintegrated the probe in the chamber - their tenacity paid off.
@alexnope2223 so what you were expecting an alien UFO construction facilities next to a alien city towers with big head green body inhabitants?, that's how a place never been touched by humans or any other form of life would look like, a rocks setteling the way they were formed nothing ever altered them but wind and that's exactly how any desert or mountain away of human reach would look like
Certain probes can carry apparatus that can measure what kinds of elements are in a sample and to what degree. If the probe for example experiences that planet’s atmosphere, information is obtained from the gasses. If the atmospheric elemental make up doesn’t make sense for a habitable planet, then you know something’s wrong and initial assumptions were incorrect.
@km2766 Look, I get it, I do, but this is mostly guess work based on a lucky probe and long range, very, observations. the vid is interesting and informative in general, but I have severe doubts on how accurate this actually is.
As a experienced medical sterilization technician, I can appreciate extreme heat and pressure. These machines had to endure incredible conditions! Amazing engineering!
Venus indeed have extreme heat and pressure, but even worse, nobody in the earth have any idea how much that "extreme" precisely is. So, Soviet went overkilling everything, creating spacecraft that can withstand much more heat and pressure than what actually needed and hoped it was enough
What war? If you mean the Russian invasion of Ukraine that has nothing to do with any of this. The USSR was a paper tiger, and Russia lacks the ingenuity now that all the German scientists they kept prisoner are dead. They have no leading edge in the scientific world anymore.
@CedartreetechnologiesNot all, but most in my opinion. We just have never reached a level of trust that would allow direct cooperation, due to the actual and perceived sensitivity of the subject. A shame, think of what all those minds working together could have achieved.
6:55 This description is exactly how the cameras on Viking worked. Of course, they had to deal with the extreme low pressure and temperatures of Mars. Interesting how the same solution could be used at both extremes of pressure and temperature.
@fiendishrabbit8259 - I don't know about the Venera imagers, but Viking actually had three 1-bit cameras, each with a filter (red, green, blue) over it so it didn't have to make 3 passes to get color.
The difference in the difficulty of exploring Mars and Venus is huge. The extremely low atmosphere is only minus 1 atmosphere of the earth. Even a person without a spacesuit can withstand it for a few seconds. It will only shut down due to lack of oxygen. The average temperature on Mars is 63 degrees Celsius. It's like winter in Yakutsk. On Venus, a person will die in a second. It will be crushed by enormous pressure and fried at a temperature of 480 degrees.
They spent a lot of resources on military and space research, and we could appreciate the results of that, but their people probably would've appreciated some of those resources for their well being.
I pray for fkn young people who are far away historically from Soviet Union era, to have them not be interested in communism. Three times (USSR, Vietnam, North Korea) it has proven that this ideology is failing the government and government fails society. It’s the worst BS you can imagine. It’s like living now in 2026, but not be able to buy basic stuff, like toilet paper, good and different food, a car, a house, go abroad and to have 2-3 tv channels with same government propaganda for 70 years in a row. You don’t want to live like that. And soviets didn’t want including government members. Capitalism is the best thing ever. Someone gonna say that it’s bad, hard and unfair. Tell it to soviets. You can’t to not work. You can’t be unemployed. You’d be imprisoned for a few years for not being employed. And all the jobs are government driven and for government. Basically any job you can think about - government is an employer. You can’t make more money by working harder. The pay is fixed. You can’t get a better job just by upgrading skills and knowledge. Even if you are more qualified than when you started - those people whose place you supposed to take are not leaving or go higher, so there’s no need to put you higher and you can be a very good professional, but they’ll keep you at the same level of responsibility and pay until higher position clears. It can take 20 years. You can’t just leave and go to different “company” there’s no companies, it’s all government owned. In capitalism you can at least to not work. Or if you’re not lazy and smart enough you can grow as a professional, you can start your own business. There’s no business in communism, business is a crime. It’s a felony. You get imprisoned for trying reselling anything. Not even a car. Either you get in line for a car or not is up to government. Even if it happened that you gained some cash for a single car available (you spend like 10 years to save enough money, there’s no loans) but you have to get in line. Lets say you have money to buy a car now, you can’t do that. You have to wait another 3-5 years in line to buy a car. Because car production is government owned. You can’t buy a house or an apartment, government owns it and it lets you live there. There’s no private property, like at all. You can buy stuff but not a property. “You don’t own anything and you’re happy” that’s the reality of communism. But you’re not happy in reality. Government gives, government takes it back. An apartment, a car, freedom. But different soviet people who managed to escape USSR, they sent letters to USSR from capitalist countries “You are (Soviet people) are happy because you don’t know how bad you guys live” That’s the fkn truth. I’ve lived there. I remember it. I had a chance to leave and never regretted. Never went back also.
@Israel_alive_forever I don't disagree in the slightest, from what I've learned. Lovett Fort-Whiteman story is that of an African-American Negro who moved to Moscow. He was a celebrity until he went astray, with wrong thoughts and words. He didn't survive. He was dead within 8 months of forced labor. Someone said that the lack of competition and corporate secrets actually improved the sharing of certain kinds of scientific information and innovation, specifically computers. But they fell behind later due to the economic system.
The reason there hasn't been more missions to Venus is due to physics. We're moving slower thav Venus so anything we send needs a speed boost. Then we're fighting the sun's gravitational influence... let's say getting vehicles to other places is a bit like playing pool/billiards. The shot the player would need to perform to hit venus would be a god tier move. In other words? It's f@$king hard as hell. That's why we haven't been back.
@hibaakaiko3888 That is not the reason we haven't sent additional missions. Getting there is child's play! It's designing a probe that lasts more than an hour and a half, that's the tricky part. And since it costs hundreds of millions of dollars, they have focused on other targets more hospitable to life, primarily Mars. The Russians did the heavy lifting and the best they could do popped out a few photos, a little sound bite, and some technical data, enough to show that we are definitely not going to be settling on Venus, EVER! No matter how many probes are sent...
why would they? Do we need to talk about the same thing thousands of times each? its 40+ years old....if no one talks about it, we already know it....and we all hate that guy who knows everything to the point you wouldn't listen.
In Junior High (1980) I did a science project based on info from the Mariner missions. I had a hand built Mariner probe made of balsa wood, foam latex and silver foil. My reproduction of Venus was a white beach ball illuminated from within, with molded plastic representing the Alpha and Beta mountain ranges. It was a lot of work, with an additional paper speculating about life in the upper atmosphere. I was a fledgling science fiction writer so you'll have to forgive me. I won a bronze medal, oddly enough the exact color of the Venusian sky. My science teacher was unimpressed by my speculative floating whale creatures that fed on carbom dioxide. A couple of people who perused the paper thought the creatures were real. I didn't tell them they were imagined. Hilarious.
we have sulfur "breathing" organisms here... the pressure is close to 1km of ocean... small insects "swim" more than they "fly" through the air at our puny 15psi... what do we call "life"?
By Gad, suh, those gnats are great swimmers! Don't really need their gossamer wings, you say? Remarkable. Have you shared this knowledge with them, our alien overlords? Or perhaps these little blighters evolved within the available physical environment and the thought of a puny 14.7 psi atmosphere never occurred to them when they grew wings and flew. Y'know? Fish swim.
As a maximally oxidised form of carbon, CO2 would be pretty useless as a fuel. But it could provide feedstock for carbon-based lifeforms that get their energy from sunlight.
Our "visual understanding" of the closest planet to Earth is stuck in 1982 for the same reasons why only 10% of the ocean has actually been studied even though we live on the same planet with it. Mars is simply easier to get to. 🤷♂️
Not only easier, but much more hospitable, although even on Mars, you would die in 2 seconds without a spacesuit. On Venus, there's no spacesuit on Earth that would keep you alive...
There are a few reasons NASA didnt bother with Venus. They had an idea of what the surface temperature in Venus was, and were actually very close to the actual accurate numbers the Soviets provided, and also after Venera 4 failed (crushed) due to the insane athmospheric pressure. I feel like they just wasted a lot of resources and time on a program that was doomed to fail. Can you imagine what a Soviet Mars program would've looked like!
I am very happy that your channel showed up in my feed. Yours is far and away the best video on Venus. You got my attention with the pictures and held it with the facts and your narration.. I didn't give my subscription, you earned it. Thank You
The vast majority of people want peace and harmony, but the gangster class exploit our cultural differences to maintain their own wealth and power. The people of the world need solidarity against the gangsters
This is profound. Earthlings aren't going anywhere. By the time we admit this, we will have irreparably fucked up earth. Yes, fuck is a technical term. technical
you don't seem to know anything "Jon Snow" The missions to Venus was ENTIRELY done because the USSR and the democratic world were in a cold war....the reason you say we are too busy IS THE REASON IT HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE....we bankrupted the USSR so they could get these cool but ultimately worthless pictures. It bankrupted them so they could take a dozen pictures. First world Second world and third world were created because of this tension, it had nothing to do with GDP of a country. ONLY had to do with what the countries political leaning was during the Cold war. First world is democratic nations, second world was Communist nations and third world is those who did not take sides.....the space race was ENTIRELY due to us being at each others throats...what happens when we work together, we get the international space station.....and though they have done some cool stuff, WHAT HAS IT ACTUALLY DONE....what life changing things has happened since we landed on Venus the Moon and Mars? nothing the average person knows or cares about.
That "being at each other's throat" is as fake as the missions, is as fake as the democracy and politics and all the circus and lies that make up this reality. Most if not all of those mission likely didn't happen, didn't return real data, or the data was altered after. Because, aliens. Duh, but really, that is the elephant in the room, at least the direction is.
Very good! Thank you, appreciate your enthusiasm, clear narration and matter of the factly tone, no aggravtingly pointless sensationalism, just clear info, no need for theatrics, really excellent. Straight through the ears and into the brain without dilly dallying about what one should feel about something, glad someone finally understood the assignment. Couple of redundancies, and unfortunately fallacies too, other fast explanations could on the opposite do with some more depth, but whatever, it's refreshing to not have a tiringly expectant narrrator.
And here on earth they try to hide sun and causing greenhouse effects also while in-between the cloud effects creates cooler winds going in directions not normal which in turn effect's weather all over.. .
@emetahava Who's "they" and why do you think they are keeping anything secret? The Venera and Vega missions were front page news all over the world when they happened.
It's amazing how much data we got using "ancient technology". I haven't even been born the last time we probed it, and I've seen huge leaps in tech during my lifetime. Imagine what we'd learn when we revisit it using modern techniques and equipment
It would fail en route because of lead-free solder and cost reduced PCBs and 3D printed parts, then if it did reach Venus it would play an ad, ask you to subscribe, restart the web browser and then crash.
As a Russian i'm amazed how many new details i learn from American bloggers about a subject in my country's history that i thought for decades i know everything about.
Just in case you didn’t know, during the space race and the height of the Cold War somehow American and Russian scientists were able to share information about their discoveries which helped each other’s programs
Remember, some history might be covered just because of current leadership. Just like CCP (or just china) tried wipe out their past. A bit look through window might change view of a room that you stay in.
@betula-pendulaand I agree 100 percent. Instead of withholding info we should not. Yes, sometimes information can fall into the wrong hands but what if it was shared and it fell into more of the right hands and it offset falling into the wrong ones
there is a clip on a national geographic documentary of dr beebes 'bathysphere". try "century of exploration". about 25 minutes in. they drop it down 900M. testing a new window. it fails. the image of it being pulled up has lived in my head since first watching it... took years to find it again... should be mandatory viewing... anyway. that is the pressure on venus. 900M of ocean. except its also at 400C... or more. and its mostly sulfur compounds... dr beebe went down in a steel ball with walls nearly a foot thick. what the russians achieved is absolutely AMAZING.
Thanks! Great episode. The sheer tenacity and perseverance the Soviet Space Program showed during these missions is AMAZING! They sent 18 Probes to capture info the other countries' space programs showed no interest in. Thanks to this, we are all a little wiser regarding another solar system Sister. Well done! :)
Yes, exactly! And now imagine how much smarter humanity could be if the Soviets had been able to focus on things like that instead of having to devote a large part of their research and industry to weapons production in order to keep NATO at bay.
Soviets threatened to force socialist revolution over the entire globe. NATO countries never threatened to remove socialist government of USSR. Learn some history about Soviet foreign doctrine.
Probably the best RUclips video about the Venus missions, 23 minutes jam-packed with information, no silly background music or endless droning about nothing. Other space channels should take note.
The probe wasn't transmitting photo images, it was transmitting numbers (likely as simple 0 and 1) that were then reconstructed into images/test results/information.
Almost 900 degrees F. In the 1953 'War of the Worlds' movie, the opening sequence talks about the Martians considering other worlds in our system to migrate to, as Mars was dying. They skip over Venus entirely without mention. Because in 1953, no one had any idea what the surface conditions were like. They thought maybe an arid desert. Maybe a vast swamp. No one imagined the hellscape that it is.
In the 1960s I read a lot Ray Bradbury science fiction short stories. In those, Venus was always an incredibly humid tropical planet covered in rain forests under unending rain.
The prevailing thought was that Venus was warm and wet so the Martians could have conceivable gone there, so it was better to just leave it out of the narrative...
In the original book (1898) the Martians conquered Venus after their failed attempt to take over Earth. Also I should mention that the original book is the best version of the story.
Yeah, just about a thousand times better than had been done before using radar. Magellan was a terrific probe. It even showed surface changes as it continued to remap areas already scanned the year before. Venera did great but Venus deserves some new science missions. Get engineers and scientists to design a craft that can work at 500°C and 90 BAR. A challenge I'm sure they would relish.
@peterwilson7532 with the materials we have nowadays i think probes could survive significantly longer as well :3 not to mention we've got hugely improved cameras
@cozmic124That was a neat idea the Russians had at the time essentially a scanning pinhole camera. I want to see a Venus rover, making a long lived lander is the hard part, after that getting it to move is much easier and so much more useful.
I'm at 16:46. If you reconstruct the titanium lens-cap, then reconstruct the fragment the arm smashed into, couldn't you get some useful estimates of the ground beneath it?
It's a good question. But, probably not, as you'd be running the data based on earth readings. 90 times the atmospheric pressure of earth, and no knowledge (at the time) of the makeup of the ground.
@Mustbecrazytobehere I would be, too. But I doubt they'd bother funding something that, in the end, gives you no hard data, over just waiting for the next mission there.
@reesbritton6623 If you want to see a real clown, go and stand in front of a mirror. Also, if you don't mind unplugging your keyboard and throwing it in the bin that'd be great thanks.
@DebbieStidham-fb8weAfaik, Phil Schneider's (murdered whistleblower) father took the picture of Thor, and it's on the USS Eldridge no less. But he's not actually from venus.
maybe you should look at the difference between cameras and flood lights.. Would have taken you moments....you clearly don't get the difference between a light and a camera....that alone would have told you Floodlights (or, more accurately, ruggedized light sources used in space probes) can survive the extreme surface conditions of Venus better than camera lenses because they are structurally simpler and can be constructed from durable, heat-resistant, and corrosion-resistant materials . Camera lenses, by contrast, require precise optical glass, delicate electronics, and complex mechanisms that are highly sensitive to extreme heat, pressure, and corrosive sulfuric acid. I really am getting disappointed, the smarter the topic the more ignorant the people watching. Amazes me they watch, they clearly don't understand it
@cozmic124 Not a camera, a camera lens. A camera lens can be as small as a pin head, why would that be more prone to implosion from atmospheric pressure than a floodlight with a vastly larger surface area? The video said nothing about the issue being heat or corrosive chemicals in the atmosphere or any other irrelevant crap the smartarse above bought up. It specifically said the reason was the lens would implode due to pressure.
Wow! If they achieved this all those years ago, imagine what they could do now! Mind you, what would really be the point of exploring this hellscape any further?
there would be a lot to be gained, but with our still limited technology, we would only be adding blobs of melted metal. To understand how things could grow, how metal behaves, how some gases might be more or less flammable....there are so many possibilities. Are there diamonds or other crystals only found in this environment? So much but not much worth spending the money on. USSR went because the USA tricked them. They ended up bankrupting themselves and helping the collapse of the USSR.
Imagine being a creature native to Venus and seeing that strange device slamming its ow pieces of protective material... "Oh, sorry sir, you seem to have dropped your hat..." THWACK! "Okay, okay, you can pick it up yourself. Geez, I was just trying to help..."
Nothing's alive down there except for maybe drool that breathes, almost pointless to look for anything that's still alive, the majority of life native to Venus, including the most interesting specimens, are very likely long extinct.
Scientists discuss black holes and quantum mechanics as if they were absolutely certain of what they're saying. At the same time, these same scientists can't guess what's on Earth's neighboring planet and are constantly surprised.
Landing a probe on Venus that could survive long enough to return data successfully is a underappreciated achievement in space exploration. It would difficult to design a more awful collection of environmental conditions.
Jupiter has worse environment :D
How about a planet that rains shards of glass? Or where one side of the planet is so hot that rocks literally evaporate and then when the wind blows it to the side that doesn't face the sun, they cool, condense into solid rock and fall back down? Or a planet surrounding a star that belches out so much solar radiation that it would instantly fry anything living or electronic that gets close to it? Because all those planets exist.
You can do much than Venus, even with how hostile Venus is.
Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about collapsars?
"It would (be) difficult to design a more awful collection of environmental conditions."
You know that Windows 11 exists, right?😂
@G360LIVE Oh snap!
It’s kind of terrifying how, 60 years after the first images of
the surface of Venus, we haven’t collected any new photos, much less sent another probe there.
not really.....its EXTREMELLY EXPENSIVE and why go to that expense now we know the basics, its of no use to us. if we had unlimited funds sure....exploration for its own sake but theres no billions of surplus. how uneducated are you this didnt occur to you
Because in the 80's you could still get away with grainy very low resolution pictures , now the fraud would just be too obvious.
There are other ways of getting information from Venus using remote sensing
Why is that? Is the cost too high compared to the gains?
@youneedtovibratehigher4412 the only fraud here is your medical papers that say you have above 70 iq
There's a third sound you can hear in the audio - you can hear flashes of lightning out in the distance.
0:16 Let that sink in… at one point in time we assumed Venus was Dagobah.
with how much atmospheric pressure there is i was surprised there was so much sand as opposed to flat rock. its crazy what can be believed until you see it first hand.
@pyrelord8763 why? There are mountains and thermal vents at the bottom of our oceans. There are even animals and they are not flat. They equalize their pressure with the environment.
I mean people think of mars as hot because it's red. Oh there may be moon crater ice that could be used in the future for astronauts.
@ADerpyReality which people? Are you thinking about Mexico? That’s a film trope, and bigoted one at that. Are they people you are taking about you?
@recompostionpretty much the people you're talking about lol.
The Soviets successfully recorded SOUND on Venus !?! I had no idea they even tried!
yes
One of many glorious achievments of Soviet Space Programme comrade.
They also had a lunar sample return mission, Luna 16.
Soviet space program was notable in setting many records in space exploration, including the first intercontinental missile (R-7 Semyorka) that launched the first satellite (Sputnik 1) and sent the first animal (Laika) into Earth orbit in 1957, and placed the first human in space in 1961, Yuri Gagarin. In addition, the Soviet program also saw the first woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, in 1963 and the first spacewalk in 1965.
Other milestones included computerized robotic missions exploring the Moon starting in 1959: being the first to reach the surface of the Moon, recording the first image of the far side of the Moon, and achieving the first soft landing on the Moon. The Soviet program also achieved the first space rover deployment with the Lunokhod programme in 1966, and sent the first robotic probe that automatically extracted a sample of lunar soil and brought it to Earth in 1970, Luna 16.
The Soviet program was also responsible for leading the first interplanetary probes to Venus and Mars and made successful soft landings on these planets in the 1960s and 1970s. It put the first space station, Salyut 1, into low Earth orbit in 1971, and the first modular space station, Mir, in 1986. Its Interkosmos program was also notable for sending the first citizen of a country other than the United States or Soviet Union into space.
Soviets vs USA space program was just germany competing against itself
Gotta respect the Soviet Space Program for those landings.
Not just for those landings but for many more accomplishments, including paving the way into space.
That is why Kosmos-482 reentry was such a exciting event :)
The venus obsession was weird. I'm thankful that they kept beating their collective heads against those landing problems.
@ChiefBridgeFuservenus (the morning star) has always been importan for many civilizations.
@Shifftee A shame they killed so many animals and humans to do so.
It was amazing how dedicated the Soviets were to exploring such a harsh environment, especially after discovering how useless it would be to ever sending a crew there or colonizing.
I was just thinking about how much it sucks that capitalism stopped allocating money national level space stuff once we realized we couldn't colonize it
The main goal of these space missions were for bragging rights. It's the same for the american moon landing.
first probe vos annihilated. VE SEND MORE!
@Xynic48The Soviets lost the moon race so they chose Venus as a consolation prize. In doing, they contributed immensely to our knowledge of the planets. This deserves recognition for a truly great achievement which, sadly, most people don’t even know about.
Btw, look into NASA’s interest in Soviet rocket engines. You may be surprised.
Imagine how many less Ukrainians would have starved to death during the holodomor if the Soviets had a better sense of priorities
8:51 the surface of Venus looks similar to the Glowing Sea from Fallout 4.
true
Probably exactly what it would be like honestly
The other way around.
The Venera program was one of the great space achievements, right up there with the Voyagers, New Horizons and Cassini.
Imagine what we could discover if we weren't hindered by humanity's hubris.
@TheTurbineEngineer Current troubles might only be a phase. There are currently too many competing priorities in our greatly increased populations.
I spray painted a helium balloon silver, tied a green crayon to it, and sent it to the aliens.
Not as great as sending men to the Moon and bringing them back alive!
@MikeS-um1nm How did I forget that 😂
You got to admire their persistence.
And the public's gullibility.
I wonder how many bottles of Vodka it took to convince the government to keep funding after the failures?
At 10:00 the sound got so loud for a second, it spooked me. heh
Only the Soviet commies could succeed with a mission to hell.
Yes I agree. The rise and fall of the Sovjet space program and travel. Almost forgotten. After the fall of the communist USSR, some of the brilliant space scientists went out of work as I read in several books.
I didn't know about the custom made camera system which can sustain the enormous heat. That alone is an incredible achievement in engineering.
It made me think of a document scanner/ stencil burner.
Line scanning with one active element and electronic transfer of the output.
It's the same technology that lets you "film" light. AlphaPhoenix has a neat video where he built one in his garage.
Heat and gravity. Im calling BS.
@wesleyfeldsine7955 Veritasium made a video recently on the same topic. Not necessarily the same technology since time resolution is irrelevant when taking a static picture.
@Donewithnonsense-u7x Even the dumb are entitled to their opinion.
I am quite sure I’ve never heard a sound recording from another planet. Thank you for that!
Even as an electrical engineer in the aerospace field, I cannot wrap my head around the amount of work that needed to be done with the technology available back then. With just basic pen and paper and computers with very limited calculation capabilities. And one chance every time, no room for any error to a functional degradation, totally unknown environmental conditions... now calculate the probabilities... wow...
Slide rules are wonderful tools.
education was better and people were expected to know things for themselves and not just look everything up
In many ways it was simpler, just more labor intensive.
Reminds you that anything is possible if you just threw enough time and money at it.
They did the same work you do today with the tools they had. Not sure how a electrical engineer in the aerospace field can't wrap his head around that? Aren't you supposed to be able to think outside of the box...
12:47 so... venus is basically Hollywood's version of mexico... space mexico
Yes, just as dangerous too
Duuuuh..Ever been there?
No... not really, no.
@Lordpeyre Kind of, yeah.
Breaking bad planet
These are real images and sound. If people are not amazed by this I have nothing else to say. It's incredible
equivalent of a kilometre of ocean in pressure, at 400C or more... mind boggling they got ANYTHING...
@paradiselost9946I can't even process this in my little brain cells 😂. Space is incredible
You are so indoctrinated and brainwashed, I feel sorry for you, I really do.
Meh.
I think you mean they really are images and sound of venus, right?
The sky was orange, the rocks, orange. Orange his house
With an orange little window
And an orange corvette
And everything is orange for him.
But for the rest of us, it was yellow.
ANDIT WAZALL YELLOW! - Chris Martin.
@RedVelv3tPandayuss remix!!
Robot Probe: We have uncovered the secret of Venus.
Soviet Scientists: Yes?!!!
Robot Probe: It is composed of lens caps.
😀
a looooooootta Titanium!!!
It was all a cover up!
Can you imagine spending tons of time and resources spending a probe to another planet, just to find out that Steve the intern forgot to remove a lens cap
🤣🤣🤣
The Soviet Space and Rocket programs were amazing, and the determination to overcome all the challenges of Venus was absolutely spectacular.
Sadly, we tend to forget just how brilliant Soviet space engineering was in those early days.
yea its kinda sad how much propaganda there is because of history. finding about russian or chinese stuff is like state secret in western media. if only the warmongering leaders would get off their ego trip and we could focus more on joint scientific endeavours combining the bright minds from everywhere. russia was coming pretty far in western relations before the ukraine and throwing it all out, usa is threatening invading eu country and china is on taiwans neck. fcked up reality
soviet rockers are still used by US to launch satellites into space. unlike space x which keeps on exploding or failing these things actually worked.
I've never forgotten
Soviet space program was notable in setting many records in space exploration, including the first intercontinental missile (R-7 Semyorka) that launched the first satellite (Sputnik 1) and sent the first animal (Laika) into Earth orbit in 1957, and placed the first human in space in 1961, Yuri Gagarin. In addition, the Soviet program also saw the first woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, in 1963 and the first spacewalk in 1965.
Other milestones included computerized robotic missions exploring the Moon starting in 1959: being the first to reach the surface of the Moon, recording the first image of the far side of the Moon, and achieving the first soft landing on the Moon. The Soviet program also achieved the first space rover deployment with the Lunokhod programme in 1966, and sent the first robotic probe that automatically extracted a sample of lunar soil and brought it to Earth in 1970, Luna 16.
The Soviet program was also responsible for leading the first interplanetary probes to Venus and Mars and made successful soft landings on these planets in the 1960s and 1970s. It put the first space station, Salyut 1, into low Earth orbit in 1971, and the first modular space station, Mir, in 1986. Its Interkosmos program was also notable for sending the first citizen of a country other than the United States or Soviet Union into space.
@Natrium9775 US/NAT0 forced Russia to intervene in ukraine
Force the adversary to expand recklessly in order to unbalance him, and then destroy him. This is a plan against Russia elaborated by the Rand Corporation, the most influential think tank in the USA. With a staff of thousands of experts, Rand presents itself as the world’s most reliable source for Intelligence and political analysis for the leaders of the United States and their allies.
The Rand Corp prides itself on having contributed to the elaboration of the long-term strategy which enabled the United States to win the Cold War, by forcing the Soviet Union to consume its own economic resources in the strategic confrontation.
It is this model which was the inspiration for the new plan, Overextending and Unbalancing Russia, published by RAND in May 2019
This was interesting but your hodgepodge of photos of the surface scattered throughout seem to have no relation to the dialog. Kind of loses the point.
This is just one of these AI videos that are all over the web these days. Although the content itself can be interesting, it pisses me off so much when recnognizing AI remarks, especially the famous contrastive negation marks (it wasnt X. It was Y).
8:10 the text in the middle of the film strip says "PROCESSING OF THE IPPI OF THE USSR ACADEMY OF SCIENCES" in case you're wondering
And IPPI (ИППИ) is "Институт проблем передачи информации" Institute for Information Transmission Problems
So basically daylight on Venus is like standing under a high pressure sodium lamp.
So, like 20 years ago in 'the room' the intense 2000K color temperature during the flowering cycle was basically what it looks like on Venus? I always loved that ambience.
yes and no. Due to venus's lack of atmosphere, the day and night cycle is extreme. Extreme heat enough to likely sizzle a person to death during the day and extreme freezing temperatures at night also enough to likely kill someone from the inside out by freezing the oxygen in the persons suit and freezing over the persons internal organs, shutting them down very quickly.
The reason why I also say no is because its much more than just that. The reason why venus shines so brightly in space and towards earth is because theres tons of relfective molecule sized material on venus that bounces light back in all directions which is why it often appears so bright in the night sky despite being a planet and not a star. Every single existant object and thing has some level of reflectance. Theres no such thing as something that has no reflectance. Most things however just dont reflect or repell light strong enough to be significant or noticable or worth caring about. Our planet is far more relfective than venus because of our many bodies of water that encompass the surface of our planet. Its also believed that its why the atmosphere on earth appears as blue during the day, although ive heard of rumours disproving this so im not sure how true or untrue it is. I would say its true based on that one situation in 2017 or 2018 about the sand from the sahara desert blocking out the sun and making the sky appear orange and darker. That tells me that its possible for the atmosphere to reflect colour from within the planet using the light from the sun to change the atmospheres colour depending on what is being reflected.
@unboxing_legend7708 ОТСУТСТВИЕ АТМОСФЕРЫ? Вам 20 минут рассказывают о том что атмосфера там в 90 раз более плотная чем на земле. Поэтому разница температур дня и ночи там должна быть минимальная.
@unboxing_legend7708 Venus is the opposite of “no atmosphere.” It has an extremely dense carbon dioxide atmosphere, about 92 times Earth’s surface pressure, and that is exactly why the surface stays brutally hot all the time. There is no scorching day and freezing night cycle. Even though Venus rotates so slowly that one solar day lasts about 117 Earth days, and its sidereal rotation period of about 243 Earth days is longer than its 225-day year, the surface temperature remains roughly 460 to 475 degrees Celsius both day and night. The thick atmosphere traps and redistributes heat so effectively that there is almost no meaningful temperature drop after sunset. Venus appears bright from Earth mainly because its global cloud cover reflects a large amount of sunlight and because it is relatively close to us. The orange or yellow cast seen in surface images is due to atmospheric filtering and scattering of light, not darkness or a lack of atmosphere.
High pressure sodium lamps are orange. Low pressure sodium lamps are yellow.
They don't need to send a spaceship they need to send diving bell...
the problem is heat. Eventually the heat gets in, the only thing they can do is delay it
that's basically what they did send
@TommyLikeTomobviously you just build it to be able to function perfectly fine at 500 C°. It's really easy barely an inconvenience
@bestaround3323 that's pushing it even for good quality metals then you'd have to worry about interference with the electronics
@TommyLikeTomI'd like to see a new one with modern tech using a nice thick layer of aerogel, and some cooling tech... Would be interesting to see how long a probe could last.
I'd also be interested to see an attempt to make one that floats in the atmosphere at higher elevations where heat is lower.... Just a buoyant insulated Metal sphere with a vacuum inside it would likely float?
Really strange how here on Earth enough cloud coverage will turn the sky dark as night especially if it's a thunderstorm, yet on Venus despite there being 90 atmosphere worth of clouds sun light still gets through.
Water reflection.
spooky to think about the fact that a few man made machines are sitting on the surface of venus eternally alone and untouched
Would be much spookier if they were touched
Untouched yeah but I don't think they will be eternal like the things that have landed on the moon. Laying aside the corrosion effects The extremely unstable surface area sooner or later will probably bury the landers in lava.
They are molten blobs.
@7bombarie Titanium melts at 1,668°C. It forms a protective oxide layer at Venus temperature of 450°C. It's still there and will be for a long, long time.
I was thinking about that too. Eons of no life, nothing happening, a lander shows up, works for a little while, and goes dark
12:02 I don't understand why so many people say that Venus is "orange." It looks like a lemon yellow to me. Only that image on the top right looks orange.
Orange is also not an actual color but is a shade of brown.
@jasons7070 It’s the mixture of the red and yellow primary colors, and you can’t convince me otherwise.
@jasons7070 in these particular images the orange is a summed intensity of the light received through colored filters. SO it is most likely a low-intensity red, with *maybe* some green mixed in. without seeing the raw data, it is impossible to guess very accurately at all
@jasons7070 Orange is a mix of yellow and red actually. It's the transition between those two colors in the spectrum.
@sOvr9000 red and yellow creates orange while brown is achieved by mixing blue and orange, red and green, or yellow and purple, or by combining all three primary colors (red, yellow, and blue).
Congrats on getting to 5:03 before saying the iconic line: "hot enough to melt lead"
Bro you have no idea how hot this cigarette lighter can get I'm not even kidding bro you might want to stand back
Up there with “gravity so strong that nothing, not even light, can escape”
At least they added zinc and tin to the list!
@AndrewBrownK i read that in kurzgesagt voice
good job they didn't make it out of lead then!
At 1:25 in, that must be the biggest 60 watt light bulb ever built.
14:14 As this part of the video was playing, the high winds outside my home gusted up, making a similar sound. It was a weird coincidence.
It's called synchronicity, and can be a powerful tool
@Hippida And also a Great Album by 'The Police' 😄
It's comforting to hear that the gods have a sense of humor.
It is brutal out there today and it sucks because you can't stay outside longer than a few minutes before frostbite starts to set in. This is a direct result of them messing with our weather and trying to play god.
Obviously Venus is crashing into Earth
The telephotometer worked like a very slow Nipkow disk, which was an early mechanical television.
yes, these discs i read somewhere were first used in start of the 20th century or end of 19th, i believe.
Mechanical televisionswere the first color tvs
16:20 I don't know why I found this so funny. "*CLANG CLANG* Man, venusian soil is so hard!"
Talk about maximal bad luck
Me too 😂
I agree. Great irony and very funny.
“Yeah so umm, we embedded a disc into the the ground on another world”
“Why?”
“By accident”
It looks like the glowing sea from Fallout 4
I remember watching a BBC Horizon documentary in the ninety's or two-thousands, when the BBC actually made programmes that were good. It was in that documentary that I first heard about the pressure tests they made on these Venera probes, in one test they actually disintegrated the probe in the chamber - their tenacity paid off.
Popular media neglected this Venera program, and the people concerned should be ashamed.
western media call Russia a gas station with nukes
@Pola-u5b That's what modern russia is. A gas station with nukes.
@nathon1942 A gas station that in 4 years ended US/western hegemony and defeated NAT0 using shovels and washing machines
@Pola-u5b What could you possibly be referring to?
@nathon1942 "The ball of vampires is ending" - Vladimir Putin
Utterly fascinating… 9:57…. It looks like it could be somewhere on earth, which is creepy and inspiring. It feels like you could actually go there
What if it was 'earth' at one point but the sun is slowly eating planets til it explodes that'd be cool 😎
Because it was shot on earth. Every photo from every planet always looks exactly the same, that can't be a coincidence
@alexnope2223 so what you were expecting an alien UFO construction facilities next to a alien city towers with big head green body inhabitants?, that's how a place never been touched by humans or any other form of life would look like, a rocks setteling the way they were formed nothing ever altered them but wind and that's exactly how any desert or mountain away of human reach would look like
@alexnope2223 bro got the ape braincells
An informative and educational video that's not boring! 👍🏼
How would we know if something is off on a planet we know almost nothing about? much less what is normal for Venus to start with.
Your name fits perfectly for Venus n why we don't go back..lol
Certain probes can carry apparatus that can measure what kinds of elements are in a sample and to what degree. If the probe for example experiences that planet’s atmosphere, information is obtained from the gasses. If the atmospheric elemental make up doesn’t make sense for a habitable planet, then you know something’s wrong and initial assumptions were incorrect.
telemetry. if you stand on the coast and watch a ship disappear in the horizon, how do you know it wont get sunk by a storm or a kraken?
@km2766 Look, I get it, I do, but this is mostly guess work based on a lucky probe and long range, very, observations. the vid is interesting and informative in general, but I have severe doubts on how accurate this actually is.
@restitutororbis964 but that info was left out...
As a experienced medical sterilization technician, I can appreciate extreme heat and pressure. These machines had to endure incredible conditions! Amazing engineering!
lol what an "as a". And it's "as an" in this case. But thanks for the visit.
@spinblade6459 You contributed nothing, to nothing... Thanks for nothing.
@spinblade6459 Also it is "sterilisation". No need to thanks me for pointing it out.
Venus indeed have extreme heat and pressure, but even worse, nobody in the earth have any idea how much that "extreme" precisely is. So, Soviet went overkilling everything, creating spacecraft that can withstand much more heat and pressure than what actually needed and hoped it was enough
Only a pop-tart can survive that heat
End the insane war and work wonders together !
What war? If you mean the Russian invasion of Ukraine that has nothing to do with any of this. The USSR was a paper tiger, and Russia lacks the ingenuity now that all the German scientists they kept prisoner are dead. They have no leading edge in the scientific world anymore.
Amen to that. America is to blame for this senselessness. CIA just couldn't keep from tweaking the bear.
War stimulates progress, 10 war years equal 100 pussy peace years, war is human but nancy boys cry
@Cedartreetechnologies Nice try, commie.
@CedartreetechnologiesNot all, but most in my opinion. We just have never reached a level of trust that would allow direct cooperation, due to the actual and perceived sensitivity of the subject. A shame, think of what all those minds working together could have achieved.
Thanks for the wonderful journey and restoration, Fexl.
6:55 This description is exactly how the cameras on Viking worked. Of course, they had to deal with the extreme low pressure and temperatures of Mars. Interesting how the same solution could be used at both extremes of pressure and temperature.
It's a great solution when bandwidth is at a premium.
@fiendishrabbit8259 - I don't know about the Venera imagers, but Viking actually had three 1-bit cameras, each with a filter (red, green, blue) over it so it didn't have to make 3 passes to get color.
The difference in the difficulty of exploring Mars and Venus is huge. The extremely low atmosphere is only minus 1 atmosphere of the earth. Even a person without a spacesuit can withstand it for a few seconds. It will only shut down due to lack of oxygen. The average temperature on Mars is 63 degrees Celsius. It's like winter in Yakutsk.
On Venus, a person will die in a second. It will be crushed by enormous pressure and fried at a temperature of 480 degrees.
@Lovecbabochek - No argument here! But we weren't talking about human exploration.
6:14 you gotta hand it to them, those Soviets weren’t some silly, unorganised operation…
They definitely had some good scientists but the same could not be said about the government
They spent a lot of resources on military and space research, and we could appreciate the results of that, but their people probably would've appreciated some of those resources for their well being.
I pray for fkn young people who are far away historically from Soviet Union era, to have them not be interested in communism. Three times (USSR, Vietnam, North Korea) it has proven that this ideology is failing the government and government fails society. It’s the worst BS you can imagine. It’s like living now in 2026, but not be able to buy basic stuff, like toilet paper, good and different food, a car, a house, go abroad and to have 2-3 tv channels with same government propaganda for 70 years in a row. You don’t want to live like that. And soviets didn’t want including government members. Capitalism is the best thing ever. Someone gonna say that it’s bad, hard and unfair. Tell it to soviets. You can’t to not work. You can’t be unemployed. You’d be imprisoned for a few years for not being employed. And all the jobs are government driven and for government. Basically any job you can think about - government is an employer. You can’t make more money by working harder. The pay is fixed. You can’t get a better job just by upgrading skills and knowledge. Even if you are more qualified than when you started - those people whose place you supposed to take are not leaving or go higher, so there’s no need to put you higher and you can be a very good professional, but they’ll keep you at the same level of responsibility and pay until higher position clears. It can take 20 years. You can’t just leave and go to different “company” there’s no companies, it’s all government owned.
In capitalism you can at least to not work. Or if you’re not lazy and smart enough you can grow as a professional, you can start your own business. There’s no business in communism, business is a crime. It’s a felony. You get imprisoned for trying reselling anything. Not even a car. Either you get in line for a car or not is up to government. Even if it happened that you gained some cash for a single car available (you spend like 10 years to save enough money, there’s no loans) but you have to get in line. Lets say you have money to buy a car now, you can’t do that. You have to wait another 3-5 years in line to buy a car. Because car production is government owned. You can’t buy a house or an apartment, government owns it and it lets you live there. There’s no private property, like at all. You can buy stuff but not a property.
“You don’t own anything and you’re happy” that’s the reality of communism. But you’re not happy in reality. Government gives, government takes it back. An apartment, a car, freedom.
But different soviet people who managed to escape USSR, they sent letters to USSR from capitalist countries “You are (Soviet people) are happy because you don’t know how bad you guys live”
That’s the fkn truth. I’ve lived there. I remember it. I had a chance to leave and never regretted. Never went back also.
@Israel_alive_forever I pray young people will see through the z!onist propaganda
@Israel_alive_forever I don't disagree in the slightest, from what I've learned. Lovett Fort-Whiteman story is that of an African-American Negro who moved to Moscow. He was a celebrity until he went astray, with wrong thoughts and words. He didn't survive. He was dead within 8 months of forced labor. Someone said that the lack of competition and corporate secrets actually improved the sharing of certain kinds of scientific information and innovation, specifically computers. But they fell behind later due to the economic system.
We need more missions to Venus. It’s so interesting!
The reason there hasn't been more missions to Venus is due to physics. We're moving slower thav Venus so anything we send needs a speed boost. Then we're fighting the sun's gravitational influence...
let's say getting vehicles to other places is a bit like playing pool/billiards. The shot the player would need to perform to hit venus would be a god tier move. In other words? It's f@$king hard as hell. That's why we haven't been back.
We need to stop starvation in this planet before it.
@hibaakaiko3888Isn't there a window when Venus is moving towards the earth?
@hibaakaiko3888
That is not the reason we haven't sent additional missions. Getting there is child's play! It's designing a probe that lasts more than an hour and a half, that's the tricky part. And since it costs hundreds of millions of dollars, they have focused on other targets more hospitable to life, primarily Mars. The Russians did the heavy lifting and the best they could do popped out a few photos, a little sound bite, and some technical data, enough to show that we are definitely not going to be settling on Venus, EVER! No matter how many probes are sent...
@sl5154
To stop starvation, we have to stop procreation...
A very impressive, very difficult set of missions by the Soviets. I must congratulate them.
Love the coverage of the Venus probes. Not many talk about it.
REMOVE YOUR PFP
why would they? Do we need to talk about the same thing thousands of times each? its 40+ years old....if no one talks about it, we already know it....and we all hate that guy who knows everything to the point you wouldn't listen.
Engineering was incredible - a machines to survive atmospheric decent from 0 to 90 psi & endure -270C to >>300C & rely on no modern compute.
It's just math and manufacturing structures that meet standards
I agree, what the Soviets did with the limited technology of the time was incredible. And the pressure wasn't 90 psi, it was 90 bar, or 1,323 psi!
Totally inaccurate 90 bar.. much more than 90 psi
90 x Earth's atmosphere = 1323 psi
Temp recorded at 475 deg c
@Erotic_Platypusthat easy you say I think not
In Junior High (1980) I did a science project based on info from the Mariner missions. I had a hand built Mariner probe made of balsa wood, foam latex and silver foil. My reproduction of Venus was a white beach ball illuminated from within, with molded plastic representing the Alpha and Beta mountain ranges. It was a lot of work, with an additional paper speculating about life in the upper atmosphere. I was a fledgling science fiction writer so you'll have to forgive me. I won a bronze medal, oddly enough the exact color of the Venusian sky. My science teacher was unimpressed by my speculative floating whale creatures that fed on carbom dioxide. A couple of people who perused the paper thought the creatures were real. I didn't tell them they were imagined. Hilarious.
we have sulfur "breathing" organisms here...
the pressure is close to 1km of ocean...
small insects "swim" more than they "fly" through the air at our puny 15psi...
what do we call "life"?
By Gad, suh, those gnats are great swimmers! Don't really need their gossamer wings, you say? Remarkable. Have you shared this knowledge with them, our alien overlords? Or perhaps these little blighters evolved within the available physical environment and the thought of a puny 14.7 psi atmosphere never occurred to them when they grew wings and flew. Y'know? Fish swim.
As a maximally oxidised form of carbon, CO2 would be pretty useless as a fuel. But it could provide feedstock for carbon-based lifeforms that get their energy from sunlight.
You only won a BRONZE medal. Your work was amazing!
Sagan's "Cosmos" actually speculates about just those kinds of creatures. Nice project for 1980.
Very interesting. Thanks. 🏅
Our "visual understanding" of the closest planet to Earth is stuck in 1982 for the same reasons why only 10% of the ocean has actually been studied even though we live on the same planet with it. Mars is simply easier to get to. 🤷♂️
And much more complex than we imagine.
Not only easier, but much more hospitable, although even on Mars, you would die in 2 seconds without a spacesuit. On Venus, there's no spacesuit on Earth that would keep you alive...
no
There are a few reasons NASA didnt bother with Venus. They had an idea of what the surface temperature in Venus was, and were actually very close to the actual accurate numbers the Soviets provided, and also after Venera 4 failed (crushed) due to the insane athmospheric pressure. I feel like they just wasted a lot of resources and time on a program that was doomed to fail. Can you imagine what a Soviet Mars program would've looked like!
Pretty sure the world navys have explored most of the ocean floor. We just won't see what they have.
I am very happy that your channel showed up in my feed. Yours is far and away the best video on Venus. You got my attention with the pictures and held it with the facts and your narration.. I didn't give my subscription, you earned it. Thank You
Terrific topic, great research! I remember this effort like it was yesterday and the excitement and anticipation was palpable.
What we could accomplish and learn if we weren't so hell bent on destroying one another.
Would be a different world..think about it often.
The vast majority of people want peace and harmony, but the gangster class exploit our cultural differences to maintain their own wealth and power. The people of the world need solidarity against the gangsters
@jwak75so do I. What we could do together would be incredible.
We need to destroy one another to make a reset.
The vast majority of technical achievements have happened during wartime. Investors will not invest in long shot technical advancements.
I never knew this aspect of the Soviet Space Program. Gotta give them props.
Sad that we are too busy being at each other's throat these days than to continue these invaluable missions.
This is profound. Earthlings aren't going anywhere. By the time we admit this, we will have irreparably fucked up earth. Yes, fuck is a technical term. technical
you don't seem to know anything "Jon Snow"
The missions to Venus was ENTIRELY done because the USSR and the democratic world were in a cold war....the reason you say we are too busy IS THE REASON IT HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE....we bankrupted the USSR so they could get these cool but ultimately worthless pictures. It bankrupted them so they could take a dozen pictures.
First world Second world and third world were created because of this tension, it had nothing to do with GDP of a country. ONLY had to do with what the countries political leaning was during the Cold war. First world is democratic nations, second world was Communist nations and third world is those who did not take sides.....the space race was ENTIRELY due to us being at each others throats...what happens when we work together, we get the international space station.....and though they have done some cool stuff, WHAT HAS IT ACTUALLY DONE....what life changing things has happened since we landed on Venus the Moon and Mars?
nothing the average person knows or cares about.
That "being at each other's throat" is as fake as the missions, is as fake as the democracy and politics and all the circus and lies that make up this reality. Most if not all of those mission likely didn't happen, didn't return real data, or the data was altered after. Because, aliens. Duh, but really, that is the elephant in the room, at least the direction is.
Very good! Thank you, appreciate your enthusiasm, clear narration and matter of the factly tone, no aggravtingly pointless sensationalism, just clear info, no need for theatrics, really excellent. Straight through the ears and into the brain without dilly dallying about what one should feel about something, glad someone finally understood the assignment. Couple of redundancies, and unfortunately fallacies too, other fast explanations could on the opposite do with some more depth, but whatever, it's refreshing to not have a tiringly expectant narrrator.
It's a synth.
6:35 this is wrong. cathode ray tubes does not take an image. they are monitors.. not a camera
the guy probably wrote this with chatgpt honestly
think he stole animation clips from another channel too, but whatever i guess
I hope I live to see another landing mission, and that it has more success than the previous ones.
All landers are destined to have a rather short life expectancy once landed.
If you can create equipment that can operate at 450 degrees Celsius, cooling is impossible.
Fantastic Video.
Fascinating. Thank you for this
What an outstanding video on one of humanity great achievements ✌️
What an outstanding video on one of humanity fakest achievements ✌
@kwimms No it's real. Just trust me.
the greatest achievement here was not that the USSR got to Venus. It's that the USA tricked them into bankrupting themselves to do it.
It would interesting to see what's left of the probes.
A cast iron skillet would return to earth in 2000 years.
Those probes are dust. Gone with the wind.
You go first and check it out. I'm good here.
Nothing, probably.
Probably nothing. Hotter than lead acidic atmosphere has likely dissolved them to nothing.
I'm going on Tuesday if you want a lift.
I do believe it deserves a second look.
And here on earth they try to hide sun and causing greenhouse effects also while in-between the cloud effects creates cooler winds going in directions not normal which in turn effect's weather all over.. .
The first time I heard the sound of Venus, I felt such a profound awe that such shook my to my core. Amazing
me too. it was shocking, fascinating and beyond belief.
This is the best video I have seen on the Russian probes to Venus, the Russians did a great job with those probes.
Go watch shadowzones video on it if you think this video is any good.
I've seen Russians probe all the way to Uranus! Great job Russians!
CCCP was not Russia it was a bunch of 15 republics
@kwimms You magnificent bastard!
I've followed the missions for years. This is presented VERY well.
11:45 peak animation
ILM is jealous
That was insightful!
I'm 62 and had no idea that we (humans) had landed anything on any extraterrestrial planet other than Mars. How the hell didn't I know about this!
And what else are they keeping from us??
Lack of education.
@emetahava Who's "they" and why do you think they are keeping anything secret? The Venera and Vega missions were front page news all over the world when they happened.
@poruatokin WHO THE F ARE YOU???
@poruatokin PROJECTING??
It's amazing how much data we got using "ancient technology". I haven't even been born the last time we probed it, and I've seen huge leaps in tech during my lifetime. Imagine what we'd learn when we revisit it using modern techniques and equipment
Ancient tech got the USA to the moon. We haven't been back yet with all the mod-cons available
@ooo-vc4xlit got usa tech on the moon,not people 😂
It would fail en route because of lead-free solder and cost reduced PCBs and 3D printed parts, then if it did reach Venus it would play an ad, ask you to subscribe, restart the web browser and then crash.
As a Russian i'm amazed how many new details i learn from American bloggers about a subject in my country's history that i thought for decades i know everything about.
Just in case you didn’t know, during the space race and the height of the Cold War somehow American and Russian scientists were able to share information about their discoveries which helped each other’s programs
This is how we people should act together: Sharing informations, joy, humanity, science, love.
No matter where someone is coming from.
The voiceover is British.
Remember, some history might be covered just because of current leadership. Just like CCP (or just china) tried wipe out their past.
A bit look through window might change view of a room that you stay in.
@betula-pendulaand I agree 100 percent. Instead of withholding info we should not. Yes, sometimes information can fall into the wrong hands but what if it was shared and it fell into more of the right hands and it offset falling into the wrong ones
Great show. Liked and sub’d
there is a clip on a national geographic documentary of dr beebes 'bathysphere".
try "century of exploration". about 25 minutes in.
they drop it down 900M. testing a new window. it fails.
the image of it being pulled up has lived in my head since first watching it... took years to find it again... should be mandatory viewing...
anyway.
that is the pressure on venus. 900M of ocean.
except its also at 400C... or more. and its mostly sulfur compounds...
dr beebe went down in a steel ball with walls nearly a foot thick.
what the russians achieved is absolutely AMAZING.
Thanks! Great episode.
The sheer tenacity and perseverance the Soviet Space Program showed during these missions is AMAZING! They sent 18 Probes to capture info the other countries' space programs showed no interest in. Thanks to this, we are all a little wiser regarding another solar system Sister. Well done! :)
Yes, exactly! And now imagine how much smarter humanity could be if the Soviets had been able to focus on things like that instead of having to devote a large part of their research and industry to weapons production in order to keep NATO at bay.
@TheSirbuffalotIt was the other way around
@TsMunch NATO was founded in 1949, Warsaw Pact only in 1955. So who reacted to whom? Read some history, munch!
Soviets threatened to force socialist revolution over the entire globe. NATO countries never threatened to remove socialist government of USSR. Learn some history about Soviet foreign doctrine.
I'm happy you enjoyed it but man it's a sloppy documentary written by AI. I'm not even sure what's said here is that much accurate.
We deserve better
18:01 - PLOT TWIST: It's SCP-682, and it's pissed for being sent there.
Great channel! So thoroughly researched!
Fantastic video, thanks for making and posting it.
1:54 That's a soyuz.
15:40 Proof that if things can go wrong - they will . . .
This was nice and Succinct, I like your style 👍
Probably the best RUclips video about the Venus missions, 23 minutes jam-packed with information, no silly background music or endless droning about nothing. Other space channels should take note.
10:00 the clanker yelled at me for no reason
it would be great if you were more transparent about using ai for the voiceover
Good catch lol
I'm also pretty sure AI was used to write the script.
How the hell the able to send data from other planets especially back then
radio waves something we've been doing for over 150 years.
The probe wasn't transmitting photo images, it was transmitting numbers (likely as simple 0 and 1) that were then reconstructed into images/test results/information.
literally the same way we do it now.........
@MacAnderville all images on your device are 0s and 1s. I assume you meant that the throughput was really low?
AI
Almost 900 degrees F.
In the 1953 'War of the Worlds' movie, the opening sequence talks about the Martians considering other worlds in our system to migrate to, as Mars was dying. They skip over Venus entirely without mention. Because in 1953, no one had any idea what the surface conditions were like.
They thought maybe an arid desert. Maybe a vast swamp. No one imagined the hellscape that it is.
In the 1960s I read a lot Ray Bradbury science fiction short stories. In those, Venus was always an incredibly humid tropical planet covered in rain forests under unending rain.
The prevailing thought was that Venus was warm and wet so the Martians could have conceivable gone there, so it was better to just leave it out of the narrative...
War Of The Worlds was an H.G. Wells book first, and it was much older than the 1953 movie: 1898.
No much higher than that in fahrenheit. It's 900 Celsius
In the original book (1898) the Martians conquered Venus after their failed attempt to take over Earth. Also I should mention that the original book is the best version of the story.
Magellan added quite a bit of improved surface radar imaging.
Yep, the video inexcusably ignored Magellan but they did emphasize that imaging "from the surface" has not been done since the Venera program.
@chrisantoniou4366or .. it was focused on a particular program...
Yeah, just about a thousand times better than had been done before using radar. Magellan was a terrific probe. It even showed surface changes as it continued to remap areas already scanned the year before.
Venera did great but Venus deserves some new science missions. Get engineers and scientists to design a craft that can work at 500°C and 90 BAR. A challenge I'm sure they would relish.
@peterwilson7532 with the materials we have nowadays i think probes could survive significantly longer as well :3
not to mention we've got hugely improved cameras
@cozmic124That was a neat idea the Russians had at the time essentially a scanning pinhole camera. I want to see a Venus rover, making a long lived lander is the hard part, after that getting it to move is much easier and so much more useful.
Great program, well done
I don`t think a titanium sphere would melt at 475C,everything else inside did though.
The reason for using titanium was that it could resist the high pressures, not the high temperatures.
@chrisantoniou4366 but it does both. you know this, correct? titanium's melting point is over 1600C.
@thomasneal9291 I do know this, but that wasn't the actual reason for using titanium, it was the pressure resistance and for lightness.
@chrisantoniou4366 Titanium melting point over 1600C. It's a real nice material to be able to use.
@mikester1290 Light and tough and with a high melting point as a bonus...
I'm at 16:46. If you reconstruct the titanium lens-cap, then reconstruct the fragment the arm smashed into, couldn't you get some useful estimates of the ground beneath it?
No...
@thisisdelboy elaborate then mr expert
Exactly what I was thinking. Result may not be accurate enough to go on from but I would be curious personally.
It's a good question. But, probably not, as you'd be running the data based on earth readings. 90 times the atmospheric pressure of earth, and no knowledge (at the time) of the makeup of the ground.
@Mustbecrazytobehere I would be, too. But I doubt they'd bother funding something that, in the end, gives you no hard data, over just waiting for the next mission there.
More AI nonsense.
How is it a nonsense?
This was very interesting to watch, thank you!
the problem with using stock footage is that one needs to know what you’re looking at. the clip of Venera 4 @1:55 shows a Soyuz type spacecraft
So then provide us with your footage then… 🙄🤡
@reesbritton6623 using the clown emoji on someone thats right......
@reesbritton6623what a wild thing to even say
@reesbritton6623 If you want to see a real clown, go and stand in front of a mirror. Also, if you don't mind unplugging your keyboard and throwing it in the bin that'd be great thanks.
That is the carrier for Венера-4... Called 4V-1.
Venusian propaganda designed to discourage you from visiting, earthlings!
@fabian.4640 yeah, beware the venereal bugs ;)
Valiant Thor don't want visitors from earth.
@DebbieStidham-fb8weAfaik, Phil Schneider's (murdered whistleblower) father took the picture of Thor, and it's on the USS Eldridge no less. But he's not actually from venus.
Pity 13 & 14 did not have/use the flood lights to see what the true colour of nearby rocks and soil actually are. 😟
Taking pictures on other planets when I was too young to remember yet were having a hell of a time getting to the moon.
Excellent video
Confused.
They could not fit a regular camera because the atmospheric pressure would implode any lens but they could fit halogen floodlights?
maybe you should look at the difference between cameras and flood lights.. Would have taken you moments....you clearly don't get the difference between a light and a camera....that alone would have told you
Floodlights (or, more accurately, ruggedized light sources used in space probes) can survive the extreme surface conditions of Venus better than camera lenses because they are structurally simpler and can be constructed from durable, heat-resistant, and corrosion-resistant materials
. Camera lenses, by contrast, require precise optical glass, delicate electronics, and complex mechanisms that are highly sensitive to extreme heat, pressure, and corrosive sulfuric acid.
I really am getting disappointed, the smarter the topic the more ignorant the people watching. Amazes me they watch, they clearly don't understand it
@ravinraven6913 You may be right but you're very condescending.
a camera is alot more fragile than a floodlight
@cozmic124 Not a camera, a camera lens.
A camera lens can be as small as a pin head, why would that be more prone to implosion from atmospheric pressure than a floodlight with a vastly larger surface area?
The video said nothing about the issue being heat or corrosive chemicals in the atmosphere or any other irrelevant crap the smartarse above bought up.
It specifically said the reason was the lens would implode due to pressure.
you are arguing about a sloppy AI-written script. so it might very well be a mistake of the video
Wow! If they achieved this all those years ago, imagine what they could do now! Mind you, what would really be the point of exploring this hellscape any further?
there would be a lot to be gained, but with our still limited technology, we would only be adding blobs of melted metal. To understand how things could grow, how metal behaves, how some gases might be more or less flammable....there are so many possibilities. Are there diamonds or other crystals only found in this environment? So much but not much worth spending the money on.
USSR went because the USA tricked them. They ended up bankrupting themselves and helping the collapse of the USSR.
Imagine being a creature native to Venus and seeing that strange device slamming its ow pieces of protective material...
"Oh, sorry sir, you seem to have dropped your hat..."
THWACK!
"Okay, okay, you can pick it up yourself. Geez, I was just trying to help..."
There is no life on Venus
Well, at least ya tried to be funny ig
@aeropilot4419No sht
@TripstarKayz-p5w some think there is ... in the clouds ... they are wrong, their science is incorrect
Nothing's alive down there except for maybe drool that breathes, almost pointless to look for anything that's still alive, the majority of life native to Venus, including the most interesting specimens, are very likely long extinct.
I've always been fascinated by the Venera missions. Cool stuff and crazy engineering.
It's hard to wrap your mind around how smart some people are. 😅
Scientists discuss black holes and quantum mechanics as if they were absolutely certain of what they're saying.
At the same time, these same scientists can't guess what's on Earth's neighboring planet and are constantly surprised.
this might be interesting but i dont know if its ai bs. i cant trust anything on the internet any more
You might want to read up on the venera missions then. The research and images have been around long before ai existed.