My gosh, all of the palette testing and patch build experiments FILL ME WITH JOY. I love how the community gets involved and you’re always open to ideas but still confident in what you want the outcome to be. This is the minecraft content I live for. Thank you, Tango!
I love the “don’t be that guy” I didn’t know it was a joke in the beginning but when I saw this part live I got it, it made me happy to watch them after that.
Personally I like reskinned mobs because to me it adds logic to how the world works. Bodies die and don’t always stop moving, but of course that looks different in different environments. A zombie in the desert has been mummified by the dry environment, a zombie in water bloats and rots faster. After enough time, land zombies turn into skeletons. Drowned rot too fast. Even very ancient dead in snowy biomes refuse to decay, shred of their clothes still preserved and bones covered in ice. In swamps, a zombie is turned into a skeleton even faster by the environment and we get Bogged. That said, it does feel lazy when they only add reskins. Goblins would be awesome. Personally I want the end to be redone and given more mobs. In the overworld I’d like more mobs like spiders that are passive during a certain time of day. Packs of coyotes aggroed only at dawn or dusk, or some sort of large evil lizard that tries to kill you during the day but gets cold and is peaceful at night. (I’m imagining something Komodo dragon ish, but I suppose a silverfish sized mob could also be fun, since people seem to fear mobs with small hit boxes, like baby zombies)
Coyotes will never be added as a hostile mob, but I love the idea of a mob that spawn and attack as a group. Imagine a mob that is passive most of the time but once there are a whole bunch of them in the area they start to gang up on you, and if you manage to get their numbers down, they can flee instead of fighting to the death
Actually a fantastic idea. Bat's are just part of the furniture and at best they are a nuisance... Your idea would make you turn around and look at them when you hear that squeak just in case it turns...
I personally am down for the skeleton variants. I think since they have set a pattern that mobs can have biome variants, we need more of them. But yes, a more prominent brand new mob would be much preferred. Edit: Honestly, every arrow should have a skele variant. You want a certain type of arrow? Don’t want to villager trade for it? Go build a skele farm in a certain biome. That seems rad. You’d probably have to sift out other mob drops depending on spawning rules. Skele variants make waaay more sense than zombie variants unless a special item comes with them like the tridents from the drown. Also not sure where to go further with spiders, but skeles seem like low hanging fruit.
That's a cool idea, I think they could add all the classic monsters, like mummies in desert temples or bats could have a small chance to be a vampire bat and if you get too close they transform and attack!
Yup. Having a werewolf hidden in plain sight would be amazing. Something that gets you, you don't know, and on full moon... you turn and you have to hunt villagers (would have extra strength to beat iron golems, but not enough to be OP) AND you have to do it or die. You can't use your inventory and if you die, that's a zenloss.
I would love if it was a regular wolf that turned into a werewolf or a direwolf at night. A better way to hide a hostile mob and doesn’t endanger a village
Imagine if it was a disease you could have and then on a full moon you temporarily lose control of yourself as you go and murder the closest villager or other player or something. For balance.
Back in 1.7.10, there was a mod that added werewolves and the ability to become one (Witchery), but unfortunately, werewolves never naturally spawned. The only way to get them was to perform a semi-expensive ritual to turn yourself into a werewolf, perform quests to increase your werewolf level, and then spread the curse to a villager. You could also spawn one in with a special set up during the full moon, but I think that one despawns shortly after.
Yeah, the "new" mob made me sigh heavily. The Breeze is actually fun and imaginative! I don't understand why it's another skeleton. Goblins sound fun...but I feel like they could be in villages in those giant caves that we got in the C&C update. Maybe some kind of vine monster? Maybe it wraps you and pulls you close so you have to fight to get loose while they do suffocation damage...drops vines and maybe lilypads or dripleaf? But yeah, there's too much re-use of old mobs.
I'm so happy for the new HC additions. Already adding great content to the sever. :) Also, Skizzy is a freaking trooper. I had road rash a few years ago and i couldn't work. I just lied on my side, cocooned and cried myself to sleep.
Another building point re: copper grates is that they and other "gap-y" blocks is that steampunk machines would need a lot of ventilation in order to not overheat, so seeing complex machinery behind a grate wall could have potential 😊
I honestly really like variants of the core mobs. Makes the different biomes matter more, makes exploration more worth it. I also want new mobs, but I'm not disappointed with a third variants. I will be disappointed if variants are ALL we get tho..
Flying mob that spawns at high altitudes that you can ride like a horse. Maybe its hostile attack could be to grab and carry you up high then drop you. As a very casual minecraft player, i've never made it far enough in the End to get an elytra. Basically, I'm envisioning something like the Lammergeier. Big bird that nest in caves on steep cliffsides, so a rare nest in specific conditions with an egg you have to swipe and hatch for the tame version. Scavenges bones by dropping them on rocks, eats bones to heal. It could be carried over with a Nether and End version. Imagine bridging out over a lava lake.
Unpopular Opinion Time: If I were designing Minecraft, I would not let Creepers spawn above sea level. They would be an underworld mob, only spawning in caves. My reason for this is that I believe the constant threat of Creeper explosions in the Overworld is EXTREMELY limiting to the type of interactive builds and games players can design, which otherwise could include many zero light level areas to spawn hostile mobs for players to fight with, but because of the Creeper, you can never implement mob spawning areas into any builds, because the Creeper would just destroy the build. And I think that is an absolutely MASSIVE missed opportunity for player made mini game potential.
Or maybe, there needs to be a feature that allows a controlled spawn of creepers. (I think there is an option of "no mob griefing" which means creepers don't explode anything and enderman don't take blocks? At least, I want to say there's one on Java. But more control of mob spawning options would be nice. At the very least, it would allow for players to have the game experience they want.) The difficulty in minecraft is that we all play differently. I started deciding to go in creative to get blocks to build in survival, because I like the building experience better in survival, but I don't have the time to invest in minecraft to both gather the blocks and build my structure. The more options Mojang can give us to control what features show up in the world, the better, I think.
If the Creeper is to be in the game at all, it should destroy blocks. Spawning under sea level I think is a very reasonable and intuitive compromise which allows the Creeper to remain a large part of the game and function as intended while also greatly reducing how much it inhibits player creativity. @@taytaythehufflepuff8532
@@taytaythehufflepuff8532The problem with turning off mob griefing is that it also blocks stuff like villagers harvesting farms and sheep eating grass What we really need is the ability to adjust settings for everything separately. Endermen you can adjust via a datapack to limit the blocks they can pick up. But everything else is hacky at best. Like, there's a datapack that keeps creepers from blowing up blocks. But it does it by reducing the explosion power, so they also stop being dangerous to players
@@Yirggzmb Ahhhh ok. (Which I agree is the reason why we could use more control over the minor settings in a way that is non-modded.) It would be nice to control some features to allow players to roam about their world as they wished. Sometimes I don't want to freak out about creepers exploding in my face, other times I'm ready for the (unnecessarily large) adrenaline rush I get from caving and exploration. Some of us casual players want a different experience in minecraft than the majority.
@@taytaythehufflepuff8532Yeah, I would love more control so much. I'm even fine with creepers in my regular survival worlds, but sometimes it would be nice to have the dangerous boom without the block destruction
Great Video/stream. Love watching these and seeing what Tango is up too. As for the new Mob coming, I have to agree. I felt that it was just Lazy to do another skeleton. If they were going to do a Swamp monster, it could have looked so different and do something different. It could have been something mossy and blobby and maybe made people fall asleep. Or a small wispy light that would confuse people. Something Different
a goblin village could be a great idea, I can see you having to fight off waves of goblins from a nearby goblin village to protect your base. they could introduce a new weapon the spear used by regular goblins and a spell caster goblin that uses magic.
Proper Swamp mob: Living Vine Monster Attack: throws tendrils which pull the player toward the mob body; proximity then triggers damage effect (like thorns or poison) Drops: seaweed and spawn; if killed in the water (maybe limited by depth) a new mob is 'planted' and will eventually grow into a full and mobile mob...
That monster from the Harry Potter franchise in the first movie... the ... name escapes me vine of death or something that you had to light up to make it leave you be or something. I'd always thought that would make a great MC "mob"(?). Not just for being trapped but also for trapping. Like you dig a hole and you get grabbed by it and you can struggle or leave it be. A mob wouldn't know any better and would get killed, but a player would try to ride it down even if it sucks their life (you'd take damage in its grasp) hoping the character has enough hearts. Or something like that.
29:33 There were normal Skeletons in the trial chambers shooting poison arrows and the community said "it would be cool if this weren't normal skeletons but a new variant" and to their credit Mojang obliged. They don't try to sell this one as a massive new revolutionary mob or anything. It's a fun little thing they threw together in a short amount of time.
They were already planning to make them a new variant, the model for the poison mob was clearly originally a placeholder. I'm cool with new variants but it definitely wasn't added because the community suggested it as if mojang didn't consider it.
"Don't Be That Guy" is probably one of the funniest skits out there! The chemistry between you Tango and Skizz is too good!! I'd love to see you guys do another season of "Naked and Scared..and friends" and have Tango as the first friend to join the adventure with Skizz and Impulse. Your great Tango!
For the vertical pipes you can set the wall block one block further and then use a glass pain to bring the wall in. Talk to bdubs about wall block display states.
1:48:20 I have used this since deepslate made its introduction and mojang didn't consider haste. Dig a 1x2 at -59 (bonus diamonds and redstone) you have to fill in gravel drops as you get them. You get 10 pieces of cobble ds every time you punch the wither and just block it in every 4 minutes, go and collect. I've tested a few times and it's, on average about 90% efficient as digging but it breaks the monotony that digging deep-seated by hand. Multilayer however would be so much easier. Maybe test with skizzlebutt. Love to see him freaking out haha So great seeing him on HC finally. He just fits. Base is looking EPIC Tango. Keep up the good work, mate.
There was a Japanese mod for this a few variants ago (i think 1.18). Pretty polished, sounds, drops, pretty powerful hits. Couldn't download it at the time (the site required a JP ip, kept throwing me out) and now i can't find it anymore. :(
You know, I think the Debug Stick should be allowed as a tool for decorating purposes. It can be used to manipulate the connection of walls and fences, force iron trapdoors vertical, force individual stairs into corners, and I can't really think of a way it would be broken otherwise. I'm sure there's a datapack to allow its use in Survival, and possibly even customize its capabilities.
I mean the Bogged isn't a great, revolutionary new mob, but really the new 1.21 hostile mob is the Breeze. The Bogged is just a fun little reskin Mojang made by popular demand and as such, I like it. If there wasn't any other new mob in 1.21 I would be kinda miffed, but as it is, I don't see anything wrong with the bogged.
I'm so with you on the bog skeleton re-skinning. It's so lazy. We have three zombies, we have three skeletons, we have two slimes, we have two spiders it's so low effort
Touching on the mob convo..I feel like no matter what they decide to add to the game there are going to be people that are not going to be happy. They add phantoms and everyone hates them. They add the warden and they’re not threatening enough. They add the bogged and it’s not innovative enough. I think a lot of people forget that this is a long running game with many free updates that add all new content to the game. Almost any other game these additions would be paid DLC. That alone is a really great thing. You also have to realize not every update is going to be for you. There are clearly so many people excited for this new mob..it’s selfish to expect every update to blow YOU away when everyone enjoys different aspects of the game and is excited for different things. I’m not a techy player. Redstone additions don’t appeal to me. But I do know it makes a lot of people happy so I’m happy to see the game expand in those areas. I enjoy exploring and building so I love when they add new building blocks. I understand not everyone cares about that aspect but we can still be excited for those who do.
@@aserta I don’t think I’d say the rest of the game is neglected by any means. We just had a HUGE update that changed world generation. They’ve added new biomes. New blocks and resources. New game mechanics. Tons of new features. They update the game in almost all areas all while adding new mobs. I also think they lean into adding mobs because it’s widely requested by a large portion of players.
I think whatever block palette you go with, you should design ambient occlusion into it so your corners look dark and unkempt even if it's all properly lit up.
1:39:28 I think it might also look good to flip the stairs around so the high side is on the grate's side, and the low side is still facing towards the sealing, but also away from the grate.
for adding a white block to the floor, you could mix some diorite and possibly polished diorite in with tuff, andesite and stone. This makes it look like an industrial concrete slab that used to be clean but has gotten dirty and run down over time. It would have to be used sparingly and only in a few patches.
As a trim for the piston pipes maybe try acacia trapdoors Would still bring that color, would be cheap and could be used in both orientations (as replacement for the slabs)
1:15:20 Though the hoppers still attempt to pick up items from countainers, like chest-boats, even if they have a full block above them. Which I personally like, since my furnace array depends on it, but I'm not sure if that means that composters, so a permanent inventory, would still reduce slightly more lag or if it doesn't matter. Like do hoppers constantly check for an inventory above them and is that check disabled if there is an inventory? Or is the checking for the inventory, and if anything changed in it, going on all the time anyway? Sadly I don't know the code.
So if they don't make the river wide enough under your base for a steam punk water wheel, you can always just have part a cog poking out of the roof or side.
34:02 Tango really talking like they didn't add Illagers and Phantoms. Say what you will, but those are the "more mobs" he's missing. I too would like a goblin - it could even be basically an overworld Piglin, I don't see why not. Maybe instead of outright attacking, it runs away if you look at it, but runs up from behind and its attacks cause you to drop random items. Would be obnoxious, but certainly unique!
I know that comments are rarely seen, especially two days later but those pipes with the pistons are great. If you extend the pistons into each other then you can have an accent color behind the piston arms. It’ll help later in the build.
Ok! 32:00 Werewolf! This is one of the greatest ideas you've had! if Mojang doesn't implement it, it will be a monumental fail! New mob, werewolf, give every dog a chance to become a werewolf on every full moon!!
About that conversation about mobs, I would like to see Mojang add mobs that take more advantage of Minecrafts uniqueness with it world made entirely out of voxels. The creeper is great and iconic because you literally couldn't add it to any other game. How about giant worms that dig through the ground and leave tunnels in the terrain, could be something the player has to intentionally spawn like the wither. Or how about a mob that picks up blocks and throws them at the player. How about a mob that adds to the terrain, a stone golem that grows stone pillars out of the ground to protect itself from arrows or as attack throwing the player into the air. Something like that would be awesome.
Suggestion for factory....do the pistons as recessed portions of walls ...so it looks set back ... Lol....you got there....i just needed to be patient....
Yas! Goblins! I've always thought having some sort of "village type" under ground, in the mossy areas, or like the badlands having Goblins because you can mine the most gold there, so have like a mining "village" with Goblins there would be freakin awesome!
Goblins + hobgoblings + goblin mages and of course the goblin king. They'd live in caves by mountain faces and abduct villagers. They should have the ability to break fences or doors (with tools). Basically a very smart mob that learns (in game) by watching the player create their farms or house.
For the vertical piston pipes - what if you moves the pistons apart by a block and extended them. Then ran chains in front of them to mask the extended arms.
28:12 funny thing is... there's options to both safeguard your stuff against mobs (two types) and there's an option to keep your inventory on death. So them trying to make the game "safe" by not being creative... is like a third layer. This is why i play this game with something like... (i haven't even checked lately, so from a year ago) 130 ish mods (mostly mods and their supporting stuff). Terrain generation, component functionality, mob behavior, mobs, sounds, light, textures (only a little bit).... basically overhauled the game and made it something i can play without sinking time i don't have to sink in it, but still enjoy it. Thank FRAK for modders. I've made my own for a few things i couldn't find or couldn't find for my version, but if it weren't for them, i would've quit this game despite playing it from day one. Heck, MS' crap almost made me quit regardless. Account migraines ... that was a tough pill to swallow.
probably done the build by now... but on the 'pipes' up/down... polished blocks up one side (or whatever your slab block is) , walls on the other side?
@1:19:00 and blended in between the pipes a glass container (green glas panes) waterfilled with sources and soulsand on botttom making it look like a sciency-bubbly thingy. Behind it green froglights
1:55:45 What if you tried black banners sideways on the vertical pipes? This might hide a bit without covering the sides completely. That or the new hanging signs sideways from the top.
I'd like to see a werewolf villager lol. See there's a one in five chance the village you stop in has a werewolf in it. You don't know till night fall any villager it attacks(like zombie villager s) also turn. That or a mob that increases in size and speed depending on difficulty. So kids playing easy mode don't have too tough a time, but those on hard have to run lol. I'm currently watching the live stream 5 hours later and replied as soon as the mob discussion came up....2 minutes later he mentioned the werewolf. Now I feel like a total idiot 🤣
My problem with Minecraft updates currently is when they’re revealed. It feels like Mojang play their cards right at the beginning and then the wait until the update releases kills the interest. By the time we have the update we’ve already gotten to see and use everything via snapshots and previews.
I used composters with spruce trapdoors as a pipe. Then used spruce slabs and chains to make it look like it is held up. Also, I just striped wood as pillers I did as a support in some areas. If you are looking for piping ideas.
Ooh. Based on Tango's comments, what about a goblin that steals from your chests! This could add some chaos in the vein of the creeper blowing things up. :D
Not sure Tango will see this but I seem to remember that X once said Hermitcraft had a "debug" stick that allows walls to be managed better. That might get you the vertical slab look.
Now I’m imagining how scary if Minecraft had their own version of the Bracken and Coilheads from lethal company. Imagine a mob that spawns only in cave systems and sneaks up on and follows just behind you before attacking. And maybe instead of instakill, they do a bleed effect. Or drain your hunger super fast like an energy vampire.
a Triffid would be a cool mod, for those that don't know it's walking carnivorous plant that attack their prey with a whip like stinger that can blind as well as poison you
Talking about new mobs and how new hostile mobs should be unique in some way, I had an idea for a swamp mob that I think would rock. Some kind of kelpie/giant leech bog creature that latches onto the player and gives them slowness until they can get it off of them, maybe repelled by fire? so if you light a campfire they detach and run away/die if you catch fire.
Thanks tango. Now I want to fight a lava kraken on striders. I'm thinking something like a kelpie, a horse mob that will grab players and bring them to a water source to drown them.
Would love a camouflaging mob. Like a sand or snow sprite or something. Behaves like a silverfish or endermite. Just kind of annoying but would make things interesting. Edit: Or a flying mob. Like a bat, but it actually bites you. Or like a vex, but less deadly
Look at Tango using all these redstone parts to make his build look good. Scar will be proud. Etho will shake his head.
There needs to eventually be a compilation of all the "Don't Be That Guy" bits lmao
There will be, you can bet your top dollar on it. :))
My gosh, all of the palette testing and patch build experiments FILL ME WITH JOY. I love how the community gets involved and you’re always open to ideas but still confident in what you want the outcome to be. This is the minecraft content I live for. Thank you, Tango!
I love the “don’t be that guy” I didn’t know it was a joke in the beginning but when I saw this part live I got it, it made me happy to watch them after that.
Did you watch until the end of Skizz's episode 1? The blooper reel was amazing.
Personally I like reskinned mobs because to me it adds logic to how the world works. Bodies die and don’t always stop moving, but of course that looks different in different environments. A zombie in the desert has been mummified by the dry environment, a zombie in water bloats and rots faster. After enough time, land zombies turn into skeletons. Drowned rot too fast. Even very ancient dead in snowy biomes refuse to decay, shred of their clothes still preserved and bones covered in ice. In swamps, a zombie is turned into a skeleton even faster by the environment and we get Bogged.
That said, it does feel lazy when they only add reskins. Goblins would be awesome. Personally I want the end to be redone and given more mobs. In the overworld I’d like more mobs like spiders that are passive during a certain time of day. Packs of coyotes aggroed only at dawn or dusk, or some sort of large evil lizard that tries to kill you during the day but gets cold and is peaceful at night. (I’m imagining something Komodo dragon ish, but I suppose a silverfish sized mob could also be fun, since people seem to fear mobs with small hit boxes, like baby zombies)
Coyotes will never be added as a hostile mob, but I love the idea of a mob that spawn and attack as a group. Imagine a mob that is passive most of the time but once there are a whole bunch of them in the area they start to gang up on you, and if you manage to get their numbers down, they can flee instead of fighting to the death
@@fruity4820mobs that spawn and attack as a group:
• zombie reinforcements
• skeleton horsemen
• pillager patrols & raids
They need vampire bats. That way the normal bats become scary because you don't know if it will be hostile or not.
I love this!
Actually a fantastic idea. Bat's are just part of the furniture and at best they are a nuisance... Your idea would make you turn around and look at them when you hear that squeak just in case it turns...
No :( bats are not enemies
Or become Vampire Bats on a certain moon phase so you would pay more attention to the moon phases as well.
@@robinagreer but you would just sleep...
The skizz recording sessions in tangos stream are honestly so cool. Please keep those going, its so neat seeing legit behind the scenes things
36:40 - Leads should not break, they should just “rubber-band” you back, as if you were struggling to pull the weight of the animal.
Skizz episode and now tango Stream!!!? This is a great start to the day!
And some behind the scenes to the skizz episode. Its great
How about an imp vod as the cherry on top?
And a wels vid too!
I personally am down for the skeleton variants. I think since they have set a pattern that mobs can have biome variants, we need more of them.
But yes, a more prominent brand new mob would be much preferred.
Edit: Honestly, every arrow should have a skele variant. You want a certain type of arrow? Don’t want to villager trade for it? Go build a skele farm in a certain biome. That seems rad. You’d probably have to sift out other mob drops depending on spawning rules. Skele variants make waaay more sense than zombie variants unless a special item comes with them like the tridents from the drown. Also not sure where to go further with spiders, but skeles seem like low hanging fruit.
A warewolf would be awesome. Imagine during the day its a villager. Just hiding waiting for a full moon
That's a cool idea, I think they could add all the classic monsters, like mummies in desert temples or bats could have a small chance to be a vampire bat and if you get too close they transform and attack!
Yup. Having a werewolf hidden in plain sight would be amazing. Something that gets you, you don't know, and on full moon... you turn and you have to hunt villagers (would have extra strength to beat iron golems, but not enough to be OP) AND you have to do it or die. You can't use your inventory and if you die, that's a zenloss.
I would love if it was a regular wolf that turned into a werewolf or a direwolf at night. A better way to hide a hostile mob and doesn’t endanger a village
Imagine if it was a disease you could have and then on a full moon you temporarily lose control of yourself as you go and murder the closest villager or other player or something. For balance.
Back in 1.7.10, there was a mod that added werewolves and the ability to become one (Witchery), but unfortunately, werewolves never naturally spawned. The only way to get them was to perform a semi-expensive ritual to turn yourself into a werewolf, perform quests to increase your werewolf level, and then spread the curse to a villager.
You could also spawn one in with a special set up during the full moon, but I think that one despawns shortly after.
"Don't leave holes, and don't be A hole" well said skizz
I cannot wait for those copper grate blocks. Catwalks. Fancy windows. Drains. Aaaah so good.
I love all the comedy bits between you and Skizz I see in his episodes!
Whenever someone mentions a goblin mob I just think of Fwip 😂
Yeah, the "new" mob made me sigh heavily. The Breeze is actually fun and imaginative! I don't understand why it's another skeleton. Goblins sound fun...but I feel like they could be in villages in those giant caves that we got in the C&C update.
Maybe some kind of vine monster? Maybe it wraps you and pulls you close so you have to fight to get loose while they do suffocation damage...drops vines and maybe lilypads or dripleaf?
But yeah, there's too much re-use of old mobs.
I'm so happy for the new HC additions. Already adding great content to the sever. :)
Also, Skizzy is a freaking trooper. I had road rash a few years ago and i couldn't work. I just lied on my side, cocooned and cried myself to sleep.
Another building point re: copper grates is that they and other "gap-y" blocks is that steampunk machines would need a lot of ventilation in order to not overheat, so seeing complex machinery behind a grate wall could have potential 😊
A tree Ent that appears if you cut too many trees in an area and replants trees.
They could maybe attack you also, have been scared by those things so many times in Zelda.
So basically like the tree guard from 'don't starve'?
wouldn't that be copying dont starve ^-^'
I honestly really like variants of the core mobs. Makes the different biomes matter more, makes exploration more worth it. I also want new mobs, but I'm not disappointed with a third variants. I will be disappointed if variants are ALL we get tho..
I am living for these Skizz n Tango bits... especially the blooper reels!!!!!
Flying mob that spawns at high altitudes that you can ride like a horse. Maybe its hostile attack could be to grab and carry you up high then drop you. As a very casual minecraft player, i've never made it far enough in the End to get an elytra. Basically, I'm envisioning something like the Lammergeier. Big bird that nest in caves on steep cliffsides, so a rare nest in specific conditions with an egg you have to swipe and hatch for the tame version. Scavenges bones by dropping them on rocks, eats bones to heal. It could be carried over with a Nether and End version. Imagine bridging out over a lava lake.
I love Lammergeier!! This is such an amazing idea, oh my god 🥺
lol Mrs. T put all the hearts 💕 on him 😂
Imagine him wearing those during Secret Life...they match his base perfectly.
Unpopular Opinion Time: If I were designing Minecraft, I would not let Creepers spawn above sea level. They would be an underworld mob, only spawning in caves. My reason for this is that I believe the constant threat of Creeper explosions in the Overworld is EXTREMELY limiting to the type of interactive builds and games players can design, which otherwise could include many zero light level areas to spawn hostile mobs for players to fight with, but because of the Creeper, you can never implement mob spawning areas into any builds, because the Creeper would just destroy the build. And I think that is an absolutely MASSIVE missed opportunity for player made mini game potential.
Or maybe, there needs to be a feature that allows a controlled spawn of creepers. (I think there is an option of "no mob griefing" which means creepers don't explode anything and enderman don't take blocks? At least, I want to say there's one on Java. But more control of mob spawning options would be nice. At the very least, it would allow for players to have the game experience they want.)
The difficulty in minecraft is that we all play differently. I started deciding to go in creative to get blocks to build in survival, because I like the building experience better in survival, but I don't have the time to invest in minecraft to both gather the blocks and build my structure. The more options Mojang can give us to control what features show up in the world, the better, I think.
If the Creeper is to be in the game at all, it should destroy blocks. Spawning under sea level I think is a very reasonable and intuitive compromise which allows the Creeper to remain a large part of the game and function as intended while also greatly reducing how much it inhibits player creativity. @@taytaythehufflepuff8532
@@taytaythehufflepuff8532The problem with turning off mob griefing is that it also blocks stuff like villagers harvesting farms and sheep eating grass
What we really need is the ability to adjust settings for everything separately. Endermen you can adjust via a datapack to limit the blocks they can pick up. But everything else is hacky at best. Like, there's a datapack that keeps creepers from blowing up blocks. But it does it by reducing the explosion power, so they also stop being dangerous to players
@@Yirggzmb Ahhhh ok. (Which I agree is the reason why we could use more control over the minor settings in a way that is non-modded.) It would be nice to control some features to allow players to roam about their world as they wished. Sometimes I don't want to freak out about creepers exploding in my face, other times I'm ready for the (unnecessarily large) adrenaline rush I get from caving and exploration.
Some of us casual players want a different experience in minecraft than the majority.
@@taytaythehufflepuff8532Yeah, I would love more control so much. I'm even fine with creepers in my regular survival worlds, but sometimes it would be nice to have the dangerous boom without the block destruction
Great Video/stream. Love watching these and seeing what Tango is up too. As for the new Mob coming, I have to agree. I felt that it was just Lazy to do another skeleton. If they were going to do a Swamp monster, it could have looked so different and do something different. It could have been something mossy and blobby and maybe made people fall asleep. Or a small wispy light that would confuse people. Something Different
Thank you Tango for all the amazing content! You make all of our days :) Keep up the hard work! ❤
a goblin village could be a great idea, I can see you having to fight off waves of goblins from a nearby goblin village to protect your base. they could introduce a new weapon the spear used by regular goblins and a spell caster goblin that uses magic.
Skizz used to be an adventurer like tango. Then he took an arrow to the knee.
Proper Swamp mob: Living Vine Monster
Attack: throws tendrils which pull the player toward the mob body; proximity then triggers damage effect (like thorns or poison)
Drops: seaweed and spawn; if killed in the water (maybe limited by depth) a new mob is 'planted' and will eventually grow into a full and mobile mob...
That monster from the Harry Potter franchise in the first movie... the ... name escapes me vine of death or something that you had to light up to make it leave you be or something. I'd always thought that would make a great MC "mob"(?). Not just for being trapped but also for trapping. Like you dig a hole and you get grabbed by it and you can struggle or leave it be. A mob wouldn't know any better and would get killed, but a player would try to ride it down even if it sucks their life (you'd take damage in its grasp) hoping the character has enough hearts. Or something like that.
Makes for a perfect day whenever the Hermits are rolling out streams and videos back to back! Love it❤
Hehehe… Mearle… Mearlescent Poon… big laughs. Love the pipes design
I love this behind the scenes stuff, super cool to see how you guys are working with each other to make the more scripted content.
29:33 There were normal Skeletons in the trial chambers shooting poison arrows and the community said "it would be cool if this weren't normal skeletons but a new variant" and to their credit Mojang obliged. They don't try to sell this one as a massive new revolutionary mob or anything. It's a fun little thing they threw together in a short amount of time.
They were already planning to make them a new variant, the model for the poison mob was clearly originally a placeholder. I'm cool with new variants but it definitely wasn't added because the community suggested it as if mojang didn't consider it.
@@thexanderthemander Source? Also what model for the poison mob? It was just a normal skeleton.
"Don't Be That Guy" is probably one of the funniest skits out there! The chemistry between you Tango and Skizz is too good!! I'd love to see you guys do another season of "Naked and Scared..and friends" and have Tango as the first friend to join the adventure with Skizz and Impulse. Your great Tango!
The Phantom is the closest new mob to the Creeper. Quite imaginative and disruptive. They also suck. A Mummy in Desert Temples would be cool.
For the vertical pipes you can set the wall block one block further and then use a glass pain to bring the wall in. Talk to bdubs about wall block display states.
Hey Tango, love the new HC start ❤️ Best of luck with the stream and the series 🤞🏻❤️
1:48:20 I have used this since deepslate made its introduction and mojang didn't consider haste. Dig a 1x2 at -59 (bonus diamonds and redstone) you have to fill in gravel drops as you get them. You get 10 pieces of cobble ds every time you punch the wither and just block it in every 4 minutes, go and collect. I've tested a few times and it's, on average about 90% efficient as digging but it breaks the monotony that digging deep-seated by hand.
Multilayer however would be so much easier. Maybe test with skizzlebutt. Love to see him freaking out haha
So great seeing him on HC finally. He just fits.
Base is looking EPIC Tango. Keep up the good work, mate.
Having mummies in the dessert temples would be dope.
There was a Japanese mod for this a few variants ago (i think 1.18). Pretty polished, sounds, drops, pretty powerful hits. Couldn't download it at the time (the site required a JP ip, kept throwing me out) and now i can't find it anymore. :(
What if they added a boss at the top of end cities you had to kill to get an elytra
You know, I think the Debug Stick should be allowed as a tool for decorating purposes. It can be used to manipulate the connection of walls and fences, force iron trapdoors vertical, force individual stairs into corners, and I can't really think of a way it would be broken otherwise. I'm sure there's a datapack to allow its use in Survival, and possibly even customize its capabilities.
So Tango…
Where are you putting the secret cow level?
I mean the Bogged isn't a great, revolutionary new mob, but really the new 1.21 hostile mob is the Breeze. The Bogged is just a fun little reskin Mojang made by popular demand and as such, I like it.
If there wasn't any other new mob in 1.21 I would be kinda miffed, but as it is, I don't see anything wrong with the bogged.
Wandering traders should have a chance to turn into werewolves at night!
This needs more hype. It would be rad to see a wandering trader transform on a full moon rather than go invisible.
I'm so with you on the bog skeleton re-skinning. It's so lazy. We have three zombies, we have three skeletons, we have two slimes, we have two spiders it's so low effort
Watching your wife put random things on your head and face will never not make my day. Even if they're spikes of doom, apparently.
I can see Tango making another insane copper farm this season
Touching on the mob convo..I feel like no matter what they decide to add to the game there are going to be people that are not going to be happy. They add phantoms and everyone hates them. They add the warden and they’re not threatening enough. They add the bogged and it’s not innovative enough.
I think a lot of people forget that this is a long running game with many free updates that add all new content to the game. Almost any other game these additions would be paid DLC. That alone is a really great thing.
You also have to realize not every update is going to be for you. There are clearly so many people excited for this new mob..it’s selfish to expect every update to blow YOU away when everyone enjoys different aspects of the game and is excited for different things. I’m not a techy player. Redstone additions don’t appeal to me. But I do know it makes a lot of people happy so I’m happy to see the game expand in those areas. I enjoy exploring and building so I love when they add new building blocks. I understand not everyone cares about that aspect but we can still be excited for those who do.
Mob anger is partly there because the rest of the game is neglected. It sparks from that, more than anything else.
@@aserta I don’t think I’d say the rest of the game is neglected by any means. We just had a HUGE update that changed world generation. They’ve added new biomes. New blocks and resources. New game mechanics. Tons of new features. They update the game in almost all areas all while adding new mobs. I also think they lean into adding mobs because it’s widely requested by a large portion of players.
I think whatever block palette you go with, you should design ambient occlusion into it so your corners look dark and unkempt even if it's all properly lit up.
1:39:28 I think it might also look good to flip the stairs around so the high side is on the grate's side, and the low side is still facing towards the sealing, but also away from the grate.
for adding a white block to the floor, you could mix some diorite and possibly polished diorite in with tuff, andesite and stone. This makes it look like an industrial concrete slab that used to be clean but has gotten dirty and run down over time. It would have to be used sparingly and only in a few patches.
I enjoy the thought of a Sphinx being the final boss in a trial chamber
As a trim for the piston pipes maybe try acacia trapdoors
Would still bring that color, would be cheap and could be used in both orientations (as replacement for the slabs)
1:15:20 Though the hoppers still attempt to pick up items from countainers, like chest-boats, even if they have a full block above them. Which I personally like, since my furnace array depends on it, but I'm not sure if that means that composters, so a permanent inventory, would still reduce slightly more lag or if it doesn't matter. Like do hoppers constantly check for an inventory above them and is that check disabled if there is an inventory? Or is the checking for the inventory, and if anything changed in it, going on all the time anyway? Sadly I don't know the code.
Tango using redstone components for decoration... He is becoming a builder. Scar would be so proud.
The lycanthropy debuff, only activates when it’s a full moon, makes you colorblind the same way dogs are colorblind
So if they don't make the river wide enough under your base for a steam punk water wheel, you can always just have part a cog poking out of the roof or side.
34:02 Tango really talking like they didn't add Illagers and Phantoms. Say what you will, but those are the "more mobs" he's missing. I too would like a goblin - it could even be basically an overworld Piglin, I don't see why not. Maybe instead of outright attacking, it runs away if you look at it, but runs up from behind and its attacks cause you to drop random items. Would be obnoxious, but certainly unique!
I know that comments are rarely seen, especially two days later but those pipes with the pistons are great.
If you extend the pistons into each other then you can have an accent color behind the piston arms. It’ll help later in the build.
this is the moment where vertical slabs would be amazing ;-;
Ok! 32:00 Werewolf! This is one of the greatest ideas you've had! if Mojang doesn't implement it, it will be a monumental fail!
New mob, werewolf, give every dog a chance to become a werewolf on every full moon!!
I actually like the spruce trap doors with the piston pipes. They tie in the brown mud brick walls that you're using between the basalt pillars.
About that conversation about mobs, I would like to see Mojang add mobs that take more advantage of Minecrafts uniqueness with it world made entirely out of voxels. The creeper is great and iconic because you literally couldn't add it to any other game. How about giant worms that dig through the ground and leave tunnels in the terrain, could be something the player has to intentionally spawn like the wither. Or how about a mob that picks up blocks and throws them at the player. How about a mob that adds to the terrain, a stone golem that grows stone pillars out of the ground to protect itself from arrows or as attack throwing the player into the air. Something like that would be awesome.
Suggestion for factory....do the pistons as recessed portions of walls ...so it looks set back ...
Lol....you got there....i just needed to be patient....
Yas! Goblins! I've always thought having some sort of "village type" under ground, in the mossy areas, or like the badlands having Goblins because you can mine the most gold there, so have like a mining "village" with Goblins there would be freakin awesome!
Goblins would be very cool. Reminds me of Kobold Miners from WoW.
Goblins + hobgoblings + goblin mages and of course the goblin king. They'd live in caves by mountain faces and abduct villagers. They should have the ability to break fences or doors (with tools). Basically a very smart mob that learns (in game) by watching the player create their farms or house.
@@aserta oh, that would be really neat! I like your thinking! Lol
For the vertical piston pipes - what if you moves the pistons apart by a block and extended them. Then ran chains in front of them to mask the extended arms.
I wonder what a single wall would look like, it could be like an additional pipe and would still decrease the space of that opening
28:12 funny thing is... there's options to both safeguard your stuff against mobs (two types) and there's an option to keep your inventory on death. So them trying to make the game "safe" by not being creative... is like a third layer.
This is why i play this game with something like... (i haven't even checked lately, so from a year ago) 130 ish mods (mostly mods and their supporting stuff).
Terrain generation, component functionality, mob behavior, mobs, sounds, light, textures (only a little bit).... basically overhauled the game and made it something i can play without sinking time i don't have to sink in it, but still enjoy it. Thank FRAK for modders. I've made my own for a few things i couldn't find or couldn't find for my version, but if it weren't for them, i would've quit this game despite playing it from day one. Heck, MS' crap almost made me quit regardless. Account migraines ... that was a tough pill to swallow.
It's understandable that another skeleton is not really the ebst thing.
But the Warden is kinda a super interesting mob. But it's biome specific.
probably done the build by now... but on the 'pipes' up/down... polished blocks up one side (or whatever your slab block is) , walls on the other side?
@1:19:00 and blended in between the pipes a glass container (green glas panes) waterfilled with sources and soulsand on botttom making it look like a sciency-bubbly thingy. Behind it green froglights
1:55:45 What if you tried black banners sideways on the vertical pipes? This might hide a bit without covering the sides completely. That or the new hanging signs sideways from the top.
I'd like to see a werewolf villager lol. See there's a one in five chance the village you stop in has a werewolf in it. You don't know till night fall any villager it attacks(like zombie villager s) also turn. That or a mob that increases in size and speed depending on difficulty. So kids playing easy mode don't have too tough a time, but those on hard have to run lol.
I'm currently watching the live stream 5 hours later and replied as soon as the mob discussion came up....2 minutes later he mentioned the werewolf. Now I feel like a total idiot 🤣
I like your take on it. And it could be something that can only happen on hard or normal mode for people who want a more casual experience
I love watching grown people being goofy together 🤪😜🎉❤
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Flip the stairs so the upright is touching the grate then waterlog the stairs. Lava under the grate, water flowing beside it.
My problem with Minecraft updates currently is when they’re revealed. It feels like Mojang play their cards right at the beginning and then the wait until the update releases kills the interest. By the time we have the update we’ve already gotten to see and use everything via snapshots and previews.
It's gotta be a tough balance, too, because if they don't show stuff off people start getting mad
How about a bubbling water column in the center of each pillar? If you need to move product to the surface, you can pump them into those columns.
Your streams are the best. That simply needed to be said. 😊
One idea. Instead of vertical pipes you could add something like an infinite item elevator. Adds some motion to the base as well.
This is why they need to give us the vertical slab
What that river ends up under your base, you need a dock in the tunnel/caves that you can fall down to.
I used composters with spruce trapdoors as a pipe. Then used spruce slabs and chains to make it look like it is held up. Also, I just striped wood as pillers I did as a support in some areas. If you are looking for piping ideas.
Ooh. Based on Tango's comments, what about a goblin that steals from your chests! This could add some chaos in the vein of the creeper blowing things up. :D
Not sure Tango will see this but I seem to remember that X once said Hermitcraft had a "debug" stick that allows walls to be managed better. That might get you the vertical slab look.
I like the idea of fire dogs that spawn near lava, and set those they attack on fire.
I wonder if there's a way to use armor stands to make vertical slabs for the pipes
Now I’m imagining how scary if Minecraft had their own version of the Bracken and Coilheads from lethal company. Imagine a mob that spawns only in cave systems and sneaks up on and follows just behind you before attacking. And maybe instead of instakill, they do a bleed effect. Or drain your hunger super fast like an energy vampire.
a Triffid would be a cool mod, for those that don't know it's walking carnivorous plant that attack their prey with a whip like stinger that can blind as well as poison you
Verticle pipe textures: do wall on one side and fence on the other. They do not connect side by side
the Breeze (Djinn) already exists on Lycanites Mobs. It would be great if they add more Lycanites tho... the Spectre or the Geonach for example.
Talking about new mobs and how new hostile mobs should be unique in some way, I had an idea for a swamp mob that I think would rock. Some kind of kelpie/giant leech bog creature that latches onto the player and gives them slowness until they can get it off of them, maybe repelled by fire? so if you light a campfire they detach and run away/die if you catch fire.
For the pipes, you should have pistons extended to add more depth and then add deep slate behind it.
Thanks tango. Now I want to fight a lava kraken on striders. I'm thinking something like a kelpie, a horse mob that will grab players and bring them to a water source to drown them.
Perhaps there's a mod to make "illusion blocks" that have zero collision, like a map wall.
With the pistons, you should see what it would look like if you extend the pistons out then hide the cobble part of it with a different block.
Maybe it would be too much complexity/effort, but would there be an armor stand trickery solution to achieve a "vertical slab" effect?
32:00 YES THEY NEED TO ADD A WEREWOLF I'M SO HAPPY YOU SAID THAT
Honestly, the fact that The Bogged had to be requested is even worse. So not only was it minimal effort into a new mob; it wasn't even their idea.
Would love a camouflaging mob. Like a sand or snow sprite or something. Behaves like a silverfish or endermite. Just kind of annoying but would make things interesting.
Edit: Or a flying mob. Like a bat, but it actually bites you. Or like a vex, but less deadly
1:52:37 would anvil work? Would they go on the wall vertically?