Therm-a-Rest Uberlite vs. NeoAir Xlite (AMAZING)
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- Опубликовано: 23 фев 2019
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Great video. You had me nervous opening the box with a razor knife!
Outstanding comparison man. I like the way you broke the pros and cons of each pad. Great video man! Ive been using the Neo Air out for several years now. But I believe I’ll have to try the Uber out. 👍🏼
Seriously considering this pad for my upcoming thru hike of the AT
Actually ordered mine a couple days ago (from REI) and it will be arriving this week. Definitely excited to try this out!! I'm more of a colder sleeper than you are, so this will probably only be a summer pad for me.
I was so excited for this video. LOL. I blame your channel completely for my gear obsession. I also appreciate the honest review about its R value. Sounds like an amazing product, but perhaps not for me due to the fact I’m a ridiculously cold sleeper.
Wonderful overview. Filmed really well. I like the background and lighting, various camera angles, looking good Bigfoot. So thankful for your channel.
Thanks!
Interesting for sure. I have been using the Sea to Summit Comfort lite pads, both insulated and uninsulated, for a while and love them myself.
Great Video! (It was nice meeting you and Miss Bigfoot this weekend)
Looks like I'm going to need to add yet another pad to the collection! Nice review.
Your videos are amazing! So detailed and informative! Thank you.
So glad it's quieter. I have a friend who has the yellow one and at night it's so loud in the woods. Every movement is able to be heard. I went with REI brand for my pad, it's insulated and a high R value. I am a cold sleeper so can't do the uberlite one cause I'll sacrifice to much heat that I need. Great review though and comparison.
When I sleep, I turn off my ears. I am more than satisfied with the X-Therm. Good video of you.
Just sounds like sleeping on dry leaves in autumn..I don't mind it at all..thought I might before buying..I bought the 25 inch wide Trekker model.
I saw your last video on the UberLite and I thought I had my order in before you. Maybe because I go the large 12 ozs cant wait.👍
I'm curious, A year later, if your opinion is any different? I know the Uberlite ended up leaking on a lot of people. Were you among them, or would you still recommend this pad as highly?
You would think TAR would have gone to a valve that is easier to inflate and dumps the air on deflation.
Thanks for the video. Look forward to hearing how it works for you.
Just got my Xtherm in yesterday! If I see some deals on the Uberlight large, I may have to make an executive decision and purchase it!
Wow, best review I've ever seen. You get to the point, I love it!
Please field test your triple stacked NeoAir Uber-Xlite-Therm with an approximate R-value of 10.9
My Exped MegaMat 10 LXW I use for basecamp has an R-value of 9.5. I can confirm it’s pretty damn warm ;)
That looks amazing. Such a difference.
Geez Rory another pad ?!?!
I have the Big Agnes Air Core Ultra and not real happy with it, it’s not very comfortable for me, but I got it super cheap at an REI garage sale. So I have been looking at the thermarest pads, just haven’t decided on one yet. Great video
I'm going to use the 3 stack setup like you have at 5:40. Over 12" of padding and an R value over 100. Lol
Bonus points for the product placement 😉
Very professional video production. Like. Informative. More like.
Great review... will try... love the noise, wt.and compatibility ... will have to test on the field to see how delicate?
Yep, I’m taking it with me on 2 thru hikes this year
Be extra careful with it because it is very thin and not very puncture resistant 🤙🏼 i had to send one back due to a tiny tiny hole
Thanks! Your presentation is unmatched. I would be sweating bullets worrying about that 15 denier though.
We’ll see how she holds up. More to come...
Good review. Considerably smaller and lighter. Great to see the side by side. Thanks.
Thanks for the review. I'm a cold sleeper and the Uberlite would only work for me about 2 months of the year. I think I'll stick with my Xlite. It's February 25, I'm just looking outside at 4" of fresh snow with a blizzard warning and thinking about the people who are already out on the AT.
Super review. I am going to get one. My missus will wonder why I need four pads but one more -- no worries! Can also shave 100 gms from my toiletry kit too since TGO.
cheers
Nice review, although i just recently ordered the Xlight. I wonder how log would the uberlight pad last?
Great review! Yea, my uberlite pad ROCKS! So light... perfect for me
Just adding the gossamer 1/8 inch thinlight cut to torso length may boost R value to shoulder seasons and just add a few ounces. ...
I use the same thing , comes in about 2.7oz. and i don't have to worry about popping the Uberlite, plus gives a little extra support for the frameless pack :)
Just checked out your channel for the first time, great info and well put together! For some unsolicited advice: I'd really recommend a better mic. Your editing, lighting, presence on camera are all on point but I think the tinny, quiet audio is holding your videos behind. Good stuff though, subbed!
Am I the only one who was worried about the full sized carpet razor to open the box?? Haha. Great overview. Looks like a great new option. Cheers!
he lives life on the "edge!"
I thought the same thing! :)
Touché
First thought I had. Especially since it is a blow up device
I audibly said “oh s*it” when I saw that blade dive straight into the box!
How do you get the air out completely?
And how do you fold&roll it? Thirds? With overlap?
thx
I like the kymit static V lite. Only 10-15 breathes which is awesome and an r-value of over 4. It's just over 19 oz but I don't mind the weight given its other benefits. I also got it for about $80 on sale so it is a way cheaper alternative (and it is 23 inches wide which is nice for side sleepers).
Agree 100% , used it in Colorado for a month last yr !! Most excellent !
Nice! It looks good for the tent users or some will use an air mattress in a hammock.
Great review, thank you.
I will be setting up for a lot of winter outings here in Northern Ontario. The temps drop to below -30C I'm looking for info on what would be a good pad / insulator that I can use on top of a tarp on the snow. Any ideas?
I continue to use my Exped Downmat 7, weighs in at a whopping 30 ounces but has a 5.9 R value and I'm a super cold sleeper. No regrets from me ever. Paid an arm and a leg for it about eight years ago and I adore it. Pain to pump up with the hand pump system, but for the warmth, it's worth it. Also, it's quiet, comfy and velvety to the touch.
Heavy bulky pad but almost like the home mattress. I use that one for car camping. I mean, why wouldn’t you 😉
I got 8.3 ounces exactly for mine! I'll be testing it out on trail in a couple weeks!
They need to just stop coming out with new gear. I haven't even used the gear I have and I already want to upgrade! LOL
if this ain't the truth... they just keep coming out with a lot nicer and more practical stuff...
@@bretthikez6567 Seen Nemo's latest batch ? :)
It's how they make money, wish we could buy one 30 years from now and bring it back
Great review! You mention the elephant in the room....the NOISE. I use a Nemo Tensor Insulated pad, but kinda need one with a higher R value. I just don’t think I can take the noise of the Xtherm.
after a year, do you still think this pad beats the neoair? I have seen many reviews that these have a leak out of the box. Thank!
Big Agnes axl air regular I will have a before and after review after my azt thru hike, I have used the petite during summer and I love it ,I'm a side sleeper so that nice thick pad is amazing.
Just curious , have you checked out his review of that pad and others reviews ? ATB brother , Hike on ........
I bought one of these last week and went out 5 days ago with my wife on a 3 day hike. I was delighted with the size/weight . My wife slept on it the first night and I wanted to scream when I heard it. The night was still and I am sure that a couple of other hikers about 150 yds away could easily hear it also. My wife is deaf at night without her hearing aids on so she could not hear it. I used it the second night and it was comfortable enough but I am thinking of getting something else. You can only hear the offending sound when you lay on it and move around. It does not crinkle but sounds almost like a roaring sound
Just purchased my NeoAir Xlite so I will have to wear this out first but, great review and I like what I see. Just can't see spending the extra $$ right now. Maybe in the future. Plus the noise is not a problem for me I'm from Florida and can sleep through a Hurricane. And I like to be warm so higher R value makes me happy. SPARTACUS
The durability is a big question! I’ll be using mine for the 1st time mid July in CO. I wonder why they didn’t just remove the reflective material from the Xlite? Save an ounce or two maybe, resulting in a quieter pad with no durability lost!
Cool, I’ll have to maybe look into this for my AT thruhike. Also, you met my girlfriend recently at a Florida airport and we both say “hey!”
Oh cool! Which one was your girlfriend?
I'm putting together a fastpacking kit for 2 day ultra running weekends, with 1-2 nights camping in the UK 3 seasons. I'm really struggling to decide between the Uberlite and Xlite. Is the smaller weight and pack size of the Uberlite really worth the big warmth trade off? As this seems to be the main difference between the two. Any input or suggestions welcome to try and help me decide, thank you.
Hopefully some vloggers use it on their thru this year and it does well. I would like one but I want to see how well it gets field tested first. I'm not hitting the trail for my thru till late June..so hopefully I will hear some good reviews before I start. Thanks for the review dude!
I can only agree, that Thermarest Neoair Uberlite is worth all the money and the size, weight and comfort is simply outstanding. I am new to hiking but one thing that encourages me is "good stuff" and I do not compromise on either my tent and sleeping gear. Now I am looking for a new sleeping bag for 3 seasons in Europe, any recommendations?
I’ve never seen a more excited man in my life
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Yeah, kinda came out in this video
Is there a sack out there that can blow it up without blowing directly into the sack? Some type of compression sack?
How is it now after 3 years? Thinking to get one, not sure why people are afraid to puncture it, you place this inside a tent where is protected. I think the new ones come with a new valve which doesn't lose air when you stop pumping. R2 seems fine to me, i have a rectangular old thermarest which i think it has around R4 and i can sleep in the harshest winter with it.
In****ingcredible. Could almost tempt me to give up ensolite, which never needs a patch kit. Almost. Maybe with more patch kits.
I get really excited about bacon. I mean gear is cool but that cup had me thinking Bacon McDouble.
😊 I luvvvvvvve BACON!
I use the Uber Lite and it is awesome. Saves lots of room in the pack, because it's tiny. Comfy sleep down to 38 degrees at 9,000 ft elevation for me.
I love my Uberlite. It’s so small and light. And comfortable. Sold my regular Xtherm. But that is because of the width. I honestly don’t understand how anyone can sleep on 20” wide pad. I went with the 25” x 77” and went from sleepless nights to decent sleeps. Will get another XTherm in wide/long for winter camping.
I received my Uberlite a few wks ago. Tested it out in 20 degree weather, I’m a cold sleeper and had to put on another warmer layer to sleep. Will test it again with combination with the zlite pad.
I love the size and weight.
Glad I ordered it when it was in stock. 🌺⛺️🍔
Awesome review!
Considering for freight train adventure from nyc to Seattle-->
Can't wait to grab some cheap at the REI garage sales.
So how did it do in the cold?
I am in the market for a new air pad so I will be checking this one out. Also will be keeping an eye out for other options that are also available. Although not sure about this one with the less durability and less r value.
It won’t be for everyone one, but for the minimalist and UL hikers out there, this will fit most.
Follow Bigfoot True, thanks. I am also working on getting my base weight down as well. So this is definitely an option to consider.
Hi. Excellent comparison. Can the Uberlight be cut shorter and re-sealed like the X-Light? Some people want the wider (25") pad but don't need the (77") length of the large.
I would think so as your just going from 30D nylon to 15D.
I backpack in the Sierra into October. An R value of 2 is inadequate even for a warm sleeper. Half my nights at high elevations are below freezing. Uber light might work if you aren’t using a quilt and if you have to add a z rest under it in cold conditions you are negating the weight savings. Therm is too warm except for winter. The xlite hits the sweet spot and is 4 ounces heavier than the Uber. It’s a no brainer. The crinkling sound is better in the new models and it goes away after about 20 nights of using it. I don’t sleep close enough to others to wake them up. My snoring is much worse than my pad!
I have read that it leaks without any holes in it. Is this true? I just bought the yellow one because of potential leaks. Thanks
Ys, it is very true. Mine deflates slowly after few hours..couldn't find the leak..
I think you need to listen to some other pads, that new one still makes a hell of a racket to me, try an exped pad to compare the noise
How tall are you? I'm 6' and debating between the regular or large.
Thanks for the preview :) I spent the weekend on my Uberlite this week and it was very quiet, seemed even quieter than in your video.. i'm a normal sleeper and it was 39 degrees and wet with a 30 degree quilt, I stayed toasty, never felt any cold from the ground at all...my biggest problem is it's pretty slippery and a bit tough to stay on, but nonetheless a great pad!
Thanks for the info. My favorite piece of my XLite is that the material is a bit tacky, so I stay on. Add the lower R Value and I think for the money and hassle I will just stick with one pad. I am loving shaving ounces, but if I end up slipping off (which has been a common issue on other pads) I'd rather have a heavier, warmer pad. Plus I am running the Large to get the 25" wide feature and its borderline priceless. Good sleep is hard to come by!
Can we get measurements in metric as well? Most of the world doesn't use ounces and inches.
I'll stick with closed cell. Great review though. Always nice to see new options on the market.
Bought one for my PCT hike in March 2019 it failed the first night out. Could never find the leak. Had to blow it up throughout the night. I use a ground cloth with my duplex, so yes I had good ground 𝐏rotection. Love the return policy with REI. Has therma rest solve the problem yet Bigfoot? I think 🤔 it was a defective valve & I’ve heard this from others on the trail as well.
I’m not sure. I have been a little removed on some of these things the last few months as I have had a lot going on in my personal life (getting married). But I have yet to have an issue with my own Uberlite in the 35-40 nights I spent on it this year. Sometimes I just call up the manufacturer (Therm-a-rest in this case) and speak to one of their customer reps to get answers on this sort of thing. If you’re thinking about trying another one, I would reach out to them first.
pretty unfair to compare a 2.3R-value-mat with an 6.9 one :)
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thank you anyway for the great video and the comparison, just got me an XTherm last weekend... thanks to their valve-update the "old" version are now all on sale
Xtherm seems worth it for its thickness alone. I want to see some of the nemo in person as a side sleeper
My Nemo Cosmo is amazing for side sleeping, super warm and pretty quiet- It's heavy as hell compared to this though.
Ordered mine this morning. Let’s see how it handles Scotland!
Hell yeah man!!!!
@@FollowBigfoot Temperature / R-Value you are going to be more than fine in May .. The only concern will be that you are visiting during the middle of the Haggis mating season and at that time they tend to look for soft platforms on which to erm... rest ...afterwords.. just remember to keep tent doors fully zipped, as they are not too fussy ... I am a fully qualified Haggis guide and hunter (being resident) if you need any advice just shout .. if you scream..its too late
Interesting product, I'm a bit concerned about the R value.
I use the SeatoSummit UltraLight Insulated
- R=3.3
- Weight= 350g for 128cm long, 480g for 183cm long
And the extra feature I love most is its 40g Ultra-Sil pump-sack which I also use as a stuff sack.
It only takes me 2 mouth blows to inflate the mat at it's maximum......30sec max
For some, this may not fit for their 3 season pad with a drop in rvalue from Xlite. Therm-a-Rest does make a pump sack that can accomplish the same feat as the STS. This pad will fit for folks that are minimalist and can stretch the rvalue or, use for their summer pad. This pad will probably sway some from using their 3/4 pad to convert to a full pad for minimal weight gain.
This just turned into a Therm-a-Rest ASMR Channel.😁
excellent review and comparison (weight 246g wow)
In a previous video I asked you about the X-Lite short. Well, I got out this weekend with it and I have to say it was ""NOT"" awesome. lol... It's getting returned to REI as soon as I have a chance. I'm going to get the Uberlite Large. Since it's only 12 ounces and huge at the same time its worth the four extra ounces. I just had a horrible sleep with a small I'm not even going to try to regular, it's still too narrow. I've been using a Therm-a Rest Trekker large for many years now and have always slept great on that. The Trekker just too heavy for the JMT. I'm a warm sleeper so I should be good. Thanks for the vid.
the 3 oz weight difference between the two pads is only the weight of a tennis ball.
Ive used a prolight plus for years. Its good but its way too big in pack space. I want an upgrade. But the cost is too much 😭😭😭😭
is it true that "krinkling" decreases with time? or is it that one just gets used to it?
Curious myself
One BIG criteria of a blow-up pad is how fast & easy is it to deflate. Just getting all the air of should take a couple seconds without mechanical squeezing/flattening.and not an eternity. We all know that no one gets ALL the air out their Thermarest air pads, so they ALL take up more room in their pack than you showed in this video. I use an REI all-season Flash pad with reported R-value 5.2 when backpacking during the shoulder seasons at the snow line in the Sierra. It has a huge deflate port, but could be even faster if you put an extra deflate valve at the foot. It has a separate inflate valve. I use an air pump sack to fill it quickly, too. The REI pad is quiet and has some synthetic fiber insulation. Now the Uberlite could work for me if I added another 4oz pad (Gossamer Gear thinlight) and changed the valves. A two-pad setup could give one contingencies and the thinlight would protect the uberlight from some punctures, too.
Hope you enjoy it... I'm in the market for a new spring /summer /fall sleeping pad.. you planning on testing anywhere any plans?
Yep. Scotland in May
oh yeah...good stuff for sure.... is that the trip that the other RUclipsrs are going on?
I like when u use to have them q and a while drinking a beer
They were fun. Right now I can’t really commit to more than 1 vid a week and I don’t want that to be a Q&A. Might do some once and awhile spontaneously
Stoked !!!
but who does the testing for the r value it in house testing
Google it or watch my rvalue video, I talk about this. The method Therm-a-Rest uses will be the standardized method every company will need to use by 2020 so everyone is on the same playing field.
That was some great intro ASMR lol
If you had included pricing for all three it would have been a home run!! :)
Google
It'll be a while before I can get my hands on an Uberlite in Australia. Bigfoot, do you think the Uberlite and Xtherm remove your need for the middle xlite?
Good stuff mate, keep it up.
Ummm, good question. I’ll have to see how I feel with the Uberlite getting into the teens. Maybe...
@@FollowBigfoot great, let us know how you go 👍🏼
May I ask, what’s your feelings on the vesper quilt coming from therma-rest
Pretty impressive for a big gear company to develop something that matches what some of these UL and cottage companies are doing. I haven’t seen on yet in person, just what I’ve read. It’s lighter than the revelation 30D with the upgraded 950 down. I’m looking at getting another 30 D quilt, this will be in the list I consider
@@FollowBigfoot, I'd much rather support small, hiker based cottage companies over big corporate companies any day!
IT doesn't sound like a chip bag!!!! BUT... I NEED the r-value. I'm too cold a sleeper, and I live in Canada. haha
The level of detail and finish he provides is unmatched, made my night! #weightwheenie
I have used a higher than 2.0 in freezing conditions and it is NOT warm enough! More like a 3.5-4.5 at 32F.
you just wanted an excuse to get that McDonald's 😂😂
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