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Hello, I know it’s been a little while since his video was uploaded, but is it possible to get a transcription of this song online? If not, is it possible for you to publish yours?
going back some 40 years ago i recall thinking maybe one day somebody would break this piece down and show that this is not some random improvised piece because as as a drummer i could hear repetitions with the performers syncing these crazy dynamics. This is mind blowing stuff. thanks for being the guy to explain this and enhancing my enjoyment.
Who knew when we were listening to this in 1971 for pure enjoyment? Those of us who are still alive (RIP John) are still huge fans. Thank you, Samuel, for having such a great love for Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band. This analysis is amazing.
I've always admired CBAHMB for their oddness and complexity. However, I've never seen their music broken down so completely and so interestingly as this. Thank you for reminding me why music is so important in human thought and processing.
One of my composition teachers in college said that if you could transcribe something from Trout Mask Replica, then you would automatically pass all 2 years of aural skills. You did incredible work pulling out all the strands from the thicket of sounds, it shows you are as dedicated to this music as the original musicians were. Thanks for this amazing analysis, bravo! The blocks of unrelated and repeating cells remind me of Stravinsky. I agree the piece overall is in G. But I wonder if the harmony might be better understood from a blues (rather than a classical) perspective, since Beefheart was coming from the blues. For example, it's possible to hear Block 1 in G mixolydian, a common blues mode. This is more convincing than saying the piece opens in C major, then eventually settles on G major. Likewise, I'd say both guitars are still in G mixolydian in Block 5, with Guitar 1 adding ninths and sixths to the G chord, also a common blues device. The strange collection of pitches in the bass in Block 5 makes sense if derived from the C blues scale, which features the sharp 4 and flat 7 degrees. This is supported by all the other bass cells which seem to be in C minor. Of course, having the bass in another key complicates things, but it's not so far out if you consider that C is the IV chord in a G blues. Actually, the tritone is one of the most common sonorities in rock music, because it is in the blues scale. Just ask Black Sabbath :) That Van Vliet and the Magic Band crafted a full-on avant-garde music directly from the blues was their singular achievement on Trout Mask Replica. Usually, avant-garde music and the blues couldn't be further apart!
Thanks for taking the time to write this, and I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the video. My analysis is by no means perfect, and in retrospect I'd probably want to refine one or two points, but I stand by my harmonic analysis. You'll notice that I didn't include the voice part in my analysis -- mainly because I wanted to emphasize the intricacy of the instrumental parts. However, the voice part in Block 1 clearly grounds the section in C major, as do the instruments. I really can't hear this section as being a subdominant of G, mixolydian or not. At any rate, the piece uses a complicated mesh of modal, tonal and some chromatic elements, and as such, other points of view are certainly possible (and welcome). Best regards, Samuel
I think you’re essentially right. This seems to boil down to an attempt to combine the blues with the sort of pattern music Terry Riley and others had been experimenting with earlier in the decade. Whether the Captain had ever even heard of Riley is open question, but similar ideas were in the air at the time.
@@samuel_andreyev For a video of this length there was certainly plenty to digest, and I thank you for that! However, an analysis that completely ignores what is happening musically in the primary melodic line isn't really getting the job done, is it? You could have used the time you spent with the text on the musical content of the vocal instead, even if it was just a sumarization. I'm hoping you or someone else will finish the job that was well started here!
I bought this album when I was a kid because I loved the colors of it. I was surprised that the music sounded exactly like what it looked like, and I loved it.
This is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen in RUclips. Period. Thank you so much Samuel. Rarely have I seen someone talks so intelligently and eloquently about music. Frownland was actaully always one of my least favourite tracks in TMR but now I will listen to it completely different.
I have to side with Chris. You need to set up a Paypal button. Think of it in terms of music purchases; some people just want to buy a song (Paypal), and others are more interested in the album (Patreon). Your video on Varese with this one compel me to throw money at you, but not on a monthly basis. Meanwhile, I am not on Patreon and don't wish to go through the rigamarole so I can remunerate you for your service.
heckler73 So you feel compelled to throw money at me? I like the cut of your jib. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll see about setting something like that up.
Samuel, Please do, so I can get this evil $10 bill off my conscience. But seriously, you do realize this is all leading to you eventually doing some Zappa analysis, right? ;-) You've already been laying out the groundwork for _his_ influences, and here is an album he _produced_. It only seems a natural consequence. Keep up the weird work, I'm loving every minute of it (usually multiple times, because your vids need more than a once over ).
Yes, Zappa would be a logical choice, although I'm far from an expert on his music and there are lots of people out there who are. I'll keep it in mind.
THIS is the kind of video that makes me hate myself for not spending time learning more about music. Thank you so much for posting this incredible video.
Great job, Samuel Andreyev!. I bought this album when it first came out and I've never ceased to love it. So good to see it taken seriously in precisely the way that you have done - not too seriously but seriously enough. Well done, keep going. I'm listening.
what a fantastic video! your ability to break down a one-minute-thirty long song into half an hour of detailed analysis is amazing, and helped me appreciate the album a whole lot more than I already did, even if some of the technical terminology goes over my head. subscribed for more excellent analysis like this :)
I was very interested in this review. Trout Mask Replica is an album which changed my life. I discovered it in my teens in the mid 70s and became totally fascinated by it. The album is an amazing piece of work, totally tied down, very tight and rehearsed on the one hand, but wild and liberating to listen to. I have to say that I love this album more than any other rock/pop album and today I live a better more open life than I would have if I had never encountered it. I love experimental art in all its forms, I even live in Brighton & Hove city in England because there is such a great experimental art scene here. All this because of Trout Mask Replica.
It's interesting how very important music is, isn't it. I first heard TMR when I was about 15 and it certainly left a lasting impression. It's a clarion call to imaginative freedom and creative utopia.
Thank you so much for breaking down what I had always felt in my gut - that this album, and this song in particular, is a work of genius. Of special importance is your analysis of the patterns - so many people think it's just discordant improvisation, but they've merely heard it, not listened to it carefully. Captain Beefheart and The Magic Band locked themselves up in a house for eight months, rehearsing, and when they went into the studio they knocked out the entire double album in 4.5 hours. It's essentially a live recording.
Superb analysis of a brilliant work. Ill never forget how this album - and this opening track in particular- startled me when I first played the vinyl 30 years ago. Im still listening!
So refreshing to have this material demystified and taken 'seriously' & held aloft with other great composers. As a drummer, this album changed my perception of what was possible in composing behind the drum kit, let alone where a song could go.Thanks for committing time to this and dissecting it. BTW, I love hearing the phrases played on the acoustic instruments to illustrate the transcriptions. I could listen to the entire album rendered in that fashion - it would really highlight the album's complexity as well as illustrate cleanly what is REALLY going on! :)
Love your channel! I'm a music composition student and have never heard this album and thanks to this video I'm now checking it out. I listened to this song right before watching tour analysis and didn't hear anything in it. Then after watching your analysis I was able to hear all the stuff you were talking about. Interesting how analysis can change the way you hear. This track reminds me of Perriot lunare in the sense that the instrumental parts seem to stand on their own and the voice part is just another color on top of it giving the piece a lyrical narrative.
Thank you so much, it was about time that a professional took a serious look at this work of art. I bet there is a lot more to say about this album, I wish I could watch an analytical video of every song, I'm not a composition student but I'd definitively take my time to digest all of this.
Brilliant. Been a big fan of Beefheart for many years, and i have never seen such a careful and accurate analysis of his unique form of music. Yes, i also love Stravinsky. Thank you very much for this.
The fact that this is your most viewed video is glorious! Lttp but thanks for successfully tackling the analysis of a TMR song. This is the best explanation I have ever seen. Now I need time to go through your other videos!
Superb analysis. As you say the drumming is so unique and special. I saw them live and the drum rhythm structure was extraordinarily satisfying. In fact the live performances as well as superbly performed and rehearsed showed each musician following their own pattern yet somehow meshed. Breathtaking. They rush to the front of the stage in waves and stomp all around the stage while playing their instruments with great precision.
I loved listening to this breakdown, I always saw Frownland as a pallette cleanser for what's to come and so I didnt ever think of it as much as i did the rest of the album, but this has reminded me of how amazing the song is and of how theres something else there that I as a listener can at least try to comprehend. This is what youtube is for
"If you are a music student, and you haven't listened to this entire record at least 4 times, then your musical education is woefully incomplete. Every composer should know this record, everyone seriously interested in music needs to know it, because it's an amazing achievement on all sorts of levels". Samuel Andreyev, Composer Thank you Samuel, I agree 100%. This was a very important album for me in 1969, and it still is today.
Another whole-hearted agreement with those pronouncements here. TMR is a transcendent musical achievement, quite unlike anything else ever committed to record. The closest thing are the other albums in the Beefheart catalog. I'm a huge fan of the first two 80's albums, Shiny Beast and Doc at the Radar Station.
If you know anything about Captain Beefheart/Don Vliet’s history can you really believe that Trout Mask Replica was “Technical Genius” or just “Creative Chaos” by one crazy guy & 4 starving musicians that wanted to be rock & roll stars?
Wow. I really loved this. While I am not a musician at any definable level that I am comfortable admitting to, you have really helped me gain a deeper understanding as to why I love this music. Thanks. Great Work.
Thanks for this video and analysis. It ended up meaning more to me than I expected. Captain Beefheart is a name that I link, through my childhood as a little kid in the 70s, to my stepfather ( who passed away back in 99). He had these giant wooden cabinets filled with hundreds of albums on vinyl. Over my lifetime, we sat down together and listened to about 50% of them, and on my own I listened to another 20%. He had orchestral music, he had Captain and Tennille, Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Beatles, Stones, Mac Davis, and on and on and on. He had a bunch of Captain Beefheart albums. We never got around to those. He told me they were great but hard to explain. But because my stepdad was a chubby guy, somehow I always associated the name Captain Beefheart with him because it sounds like a funny name for a chubby guy. So all my life that name made me think of my stepdad. But I never actually listened to the music. I got real deep into jazz and progressive rock and strange music but I always assumed Captain Beefheart was something silly but pleasant, based on the name. And these days I'm hardcore into Dominican traditional music as well as anything afro-cuban. So it was an incredible delight for me to watch this video, and realize this band was something meaty and deep that I could bite into. I probably would never have found out if I hadn't seen this channel and watched the analysis. It gives me something completely new to me to discover, and it has let me reconnect with fond memories of my stepdad that I never expected. While this is obviously just a happy coincidence, I still want to thank you for this analysis and for giving me some new and old roads to explore that a mere week ago, I never would have dreamed of. Thank you!!!
Wow! This might have been the greatest youtube video I've ever seen! I clicked o the link skeptically, as when someone talks about this album all they do is remark how "weird" it is. Turns out I was totally mindblown. This is one of my favorite pieces of music and I can't believe you deciphered it.
I've been listening to this album since 1971! It had more of an effect on me than my first semester of college, which happened at the same time. I bought the album right at the beginning of my first semester. Well, even after all these years, I would still say that Pachuco Cadaver is my favorite song on the album. It's an amazing song, and not just the music. The lyrics of the album were a big part of why I was just blown away by the album. I memorized many of them and would recite them for the poor students in my French class, mainly. I don't listen so much anymore, but still I would say that this album had a huge effect on me. Other songs that were quite influential on me are Steal Softly thru Snow, Ella Guru, The Blimp, Old Fart at Play, The Dust blows forward 'n the Dust blows Back (my ex-wife's favorite! :) ... oh, there were so many... "Energy flies through a field, and the sun softly melts the nothing wheel... The black paper between the mirror, breaks my heart that I can't go, steal softly thru sunshine, steal softly thru snow..." I gotta stop now. I'll get started on a Beefheart "thing" and nobody wants that! haha
Trout Mask was the greatest noise of the 60's. Lick my decals was the greatest noise of the 70's. Doc at the Radar Station was the greatest noise of the 80's. All at the hands of Don Van Vliet. In 1,000 years people will be listening to Captain Beefheart. England has a good vision for majestic talent. They worship Buddy Holly, Brian Wilson and Captain Beefheart. So do I. All revolutionary people in the world of recorded sound and composition. Beefheart went for all the marbles and he got them and he has them for all time. Nobody slays the captain.
I always play " Big Eyed Beans From Venus" or "Electricity" or "Kandy Korn" to people who've never heard Beefheart. People start playing air guitar or air drums and headbanging and moving! Good times I'm sure we'll have again!
Thank you so much. I saw Don's first East Coast performance with the Magic Band at Ungano's in New York City in 1970. It changed my life, and I was fortunate to see him live with different incarnations of the band 4 times. I miss him every single day.
Fun fact: the song “Vertigo” by Aztec Camera has the following lines: Now that her smile has stuck I cannot go back to your frownland And that song sounds NOTHING like Captain Beefheart.
It took me a year of listening for me to "get" this album. It was well worth this commitment. It defeinately expanded my musical universe. I agree that John French should get much more recognition for his contribution. He should get co authourship I think. This stuff is so frightfully original it really helps dispell many layers of banality that suround us these days. Thank you soo much Samuel Andreyev for this analysis. It is truly WONDERFUL. It verifies to me all the wonderful things I hear in this album are based on sound musical principals and not just chaos. This makes me very happy. My smile is stuck. Long live Captain Beefhearts music.
You know your Tadpoles. Thank you for putting your Read Magic Spell on this Frownland enchantment. Having seen the wizards at work I knew they played what you hear on the records. Your explanation has made it much clearer to a written music illiterate.
It’s so very interesting and amusing to see Captain Beefheart’s music analyzed and dissected so skillfully and with such complete appreciation. I have a very special place in my heart for this music. It is COMPLETELY outside of the box.
this is unbelievable that now after all this time someone.....you sam ........ has shown the world how amazing and intricate and awe inspiring and original and unique this music eally is Bravo Mr. Andreyev
Just fantastic. I thought I'd gotten lucky when I discovered your analysis of the Stravinsky Quartet Pieces, but I had no idea a video looking into Trout Mask Replica was on the cards. So glad I subscribed, please, more like this and anything else you want to make! On that note, I don't know if you do requests, but I ache for more online video content analysing the works of Bartók. His string quartets in particular remind me of the dense complexity of this Beefheart album. A video looking into the endless wonders of, say, his 4th Quartet, or even just a movement, would be wonderful. Keep it up please!
Sonny Williamson Thanks for taking the time to comment! Bartók is a great idea. The 4th quartet is one of the first pieces I ever seriously analyzed -- could be perfect for the channel. I'll keep it in mind.
beef heart & zappa had what was vital in music talent originality & a vision in sound.ths 2l p set is all about originality with talent the whole band deserve credit.although don was the conductor like frank zappa was the conductor of the mothers.its all about guiding the talent around them to create a masterpiece.their musicianship is top notch.but you have gotta hear it on analogue vinyl to fully unlock the unrestricted sonic,s.ive got an english american & german copy i dont know why but i got 3 copies lol.ive got the first lp safe as milk in mono & stereo.i highly recommend the mono.safe as milk & the legendary a & m sessions which is a 5 song set show the start of don experimenting moon child is a great original piece.don was badly fucked over by the record company on the strictly personal lp which was meant to be a 2lp set.but released as a single lp while don was away gigging.session musicians that simplified the original rhythms re-recorded the rhythm,s.there is still so much people havnt heard the outtakes are completely different much of this material has been released but sadly many reissue labels today are betraying musical history by enforcing a digital vinyl only reissue scheme.every digital reissue has criminal multiple overdubs purely to hide the inferior sonic,s this is the biggest betrayal to musical history done purely to make sure the cd & mp3 versions dont sound inferior to the vinyl release..
Thanks for this... my favorite Beefheart track is" Bellerin' Plain" off of Lick My Decals Off... great live recording from Detroit showing how the live versions were the studio versions live... no improvisation
Wow, thank you for making this I really enjoyed it. My theory knowledge is rather basic but I enjoy using prior music that I enjoy to study and help get a better grasp on what makes all of this tick. And this album is the pinnacle of Free Jazz composing, so it's great to have a closer idea on making sense of this compositional puzzle. I'd really appreciate if you made more videos on this, since there doesn''t seem to be much else online in regards of breaking down the songwriting structures on here.
Hi Chris, thanks for writing. I've had to take a break from the channel for a few weeks as I attend to some other urgent professional matters, but I'll be back very shortly with more content -- including another Beefheart video. Incidentally, from a technical perspective, this music has virtually nothing in common with free jazz. The only musical element that might recall free jazz is Beefheart's soprano sax playing, although even there, it's really not the same thing..
I love (almost)* all of Beefheart's work, but TMR is my lifelong Rosetta Stone. I probably wouldn't have ever made my own music if not for the inspiration of Don and the band(s), to say nothing of how it's inspired me in visual art, too. GREAT work on this, thank you for putting the time in. Somebody's leavin' peanuts on the curbins... and it's you. *Tragic Band era, obviously
I just can’t get over how this was live. How is that even possible? I would become so overwhelmed with all the different stuff going on. I could understand if the parts were being recorded individually and then layered on top of each other but the fact a group of people stood round and played this is mind blowing.
Wow - what a brilliant piece on this track - it has given some resonance and rationale to my love of this album over the last forty eight years. John French was a saint to get all Don's ideas into a playable format. I have just recognised from your analysis of this one track how complex and difficult that must have been for him. He kept the music going by playing it live with a bunch of ex magic band members and some new additions from 2003 onwards but sadly has decided to call it a day. There's a project in there for you and a few like minded people...
This music is in my marrow. Somehow. What cut and integrated it is a mystery; I did not do the emotionally responsive analysis you mentioned. Knowing what makes up a piece transforms my experience, taking away some of the stimulation it gives to parts of me- some parts of my psyche even unrelated to the actual music- and brings new and stronger emotional responses. Thank you for the breakdown. Brilliant work. I’m going to listen with a fresh ear.
Brilliant analysis of a great work of art. Extremely interesting. One of the non professional musicians who watches 🙋 You can't an expert enthusing on their subject. 👏
This was a great analysis. Frownland is the most difficult track in this song for me to break apart and understand, and now I can see why. I've never heard 5s against 7s before.
Many thanks for that illuminating analysis. I’ve been trying to convince others of this album’s brilliance since I first heard it as a 15 year old back in ‘71. I was still at it only last week but got the usual “this is just a terrible racket!” response. It’s their loss. I had the pleasure of seeing them live a couple of times in Birmingham, UK. I’d love you to talk more about those unique truncated riffs they used such as in “Ice cream for crow” (though by that time it was a completely new Magic band). Thanks again.
What a fantastic video/analysis! Thanks for all the work and insights and sharing it all as you do. I interviewed John French for Drummer (UK), who I wrote for for about a decade. They didn't run the piece, alas. I'll put it on my blog, in case anyone's interested. I first encountered this music through a compilation cassette a friend made for me when I was about 14-15 years old, many moons ago. It was represented by just one track, Pachuco Cadaver. Unlike many - one so often hears folk saying how it took them a long time to get into this music - I adored it right off. It then took several years of musical research to find out who the music was by, and how I could get hold of it. When I finally got TMR, the anticipation had built so much that the release of acquisition and immersion was... well, sublime. No listening repeatedly to 'get it'; I got it right off. It spoke directly to me. Still does. As you say, TMR is frequently cited as an influence or touchstone, but it's less obvious to see or hear genuine influences in subsequent music. Are you aware of British musician Lewis Taylor's TMR recordings? He did a partial 'tribute', of covers - both very, very faithful, but also bearing his own imprint - which is, frankly, utterly amazing. It's a real pity he didn't complete and release this project. Anyhoo... great stuff!
@@minimonkey252 haha, thank you for listening😊. As I said, I really don't know anything about Beefheart or the time it was written in. I'm just now getting into it this week. I formed this interpretation when I first heard it like around two years ago. I think its because I heard someone say that Frownland gets you ready for the rest of the album, before I played it for myself
Samuel, you certainly got it right regarding the way critics talk about it. To be fair, they do talk that way about everything ... the awful searching for non-musical adjectives to misappropriate that they haven't already flogged to death previously, and so forth. This is fine music indeed. Records that get right down to business without wasting time tend to be off to a good start with me, and this leadoff track is a good example of that. I had no idea that the musicians were so young at the time; that makes it seem even more remarkable to me. His singing reminds me at times of the great Howlin' Wolf.
This album has been part of my life for about 15 years now. I've always loved its sound, its texture, its absurdly complicated tapestry of rhythms, and I swear that, after watching this video, I'll never listen to it the same way again. I would've never imagined that these melodies and lines were buried in this song, and it makes me wish I wrote music like this.
Loved it the first time I heard it back in the day. I thought, "what IS this? I must have it!" Great analysis, Samuel. Mr. Harkelroad once told me (via podcast years ago) about the blending of tracks, via FZ magic, on Veteran's Day Poppy, another TM favorite -although I've heard attempts at live performance of the transition.
👍🏾🎸🤯✌🏾I never knew! I totally blew this off. I used to gig at the old Fillmore back in the day. When Beefheart played his set, I thought they were 3rd rate posers, trying imitate Ornette or Trane. I’m all ears now - better late than never!!!!!!
@@floobuscanoobus No one is going to be discussing Beefheart's music either. The only reason people are discussing it today is for historical reasons, for association with Zappa.
@@annaclarafenyo8185 I hope you are attractive. With your negative attitude about life, music, and people, your friend list is still trying to achieve 1.
Trout mask replica needs a remix, because even knowing the harmony, I can barely hear anything over the tinny attack of the guitars. Listening extremely closely, hearing underneath the mix into the music, it sounds amazing. I feel I have missed out, and others have missed out as well.
Thank you very much for this .. fantastic .. it helps me reconcile a visceral love of asymmetry & dissonance across all genres of 20th/21st century music .. and the kicker? makes me want to play guitar again! brilliant!
Amazing dissection of this song, thanks! My respect increased when you pulled out Grow Fins! Indispensable listening for any Beefheart "stan". Thanks again for a brilliant analysis, subbed on the strength of this video. So great that you took the time to do this, I'm more-or-less completely musically illiterate and this is a fantastic comprehension tool. Have you ever read John French's book? Very illuminating stuff. It's a good companion for the Grow Fins boxset.
vollsticks Thanks for your comments. I read John's book cover to cover when researching for our interview. Check out my non-Beefheart videos too, eh? You might enjoy the ones on Varèse..
Samuel, as a guitar teacher of 40 years and the proud owner of Trout Mask Replica I must say that was the most fascinating 30 minutes I have ever seen on RUclips and I've watched a lot. Your discussion of Bass Cell 14 and the F# and C notes and saying it doesn't appear in rock music reminded me that ,if I am correct, the flattened fifth interval was called the Devils Interval in earlier music and was not allowed to be played by order of the religious masters because of its demonic connotations. It does however appear in the intro to Jimi Hendrix's Purple Haze. Of course if anyone was going to use it and get away with it then Jimi was the logical choice! Absolutely fascinating. I'm off to see the Mascara Snake! Cheers, Peter from Tasmania.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. As all who know the album it takes a few listens. Something like this... Its terrible.. Its interesting...its amazing.... Its the best thing ive ever heard. Once you have got your head around it everything else just sounds boring. It made me go out and find other challenging music to listen to. What an achievement. Thx!
Thank you for this analysis and for introducing me to this great album. I was particularly hit screams, for example in the track "Sugar 'n Spikes", for example.
This analysis demonstrates that music appreciation is a skill that can be developed. Whether its the music theory, the meaning of the lyrics, instrumentation, affect, or the historical context, etc the more you know and understand the more likely you are to enjoy any piece of music and be informed by it. I just bought the vinyl of TMR on the basis of reputation and I don't know how many listens it will take as its apparently very 'difficult'. It 'only' took me 6 listens of Laura Nyro's stark and emotionally intense but relatively accessible avant-garde pop of 'New York Tendaberry' (1969), and only a few listens to 'get' Nico's gothic dirge 'The Marble Index' (1969). Gotta love those 1969 challenges!
Indeed, the more effort you put into it, the more you are able to distinguish in the art. It's like the difference between seeing a stick figure drawing of a person, and a high-resolution photograph.
As someone whose listened to more professors analyze contemporary music than I can keep count of, I never in my wildest dreams thought I would find such an entertaining and informative analysis of anything by Captain Beefheart, much less one of his most complex songs. I envy your students.
Fascinating analysis of my favorite track from the most inspirational album in my lifetime. But I'm an old hippy with that utopian humanist vision of how things could be.
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Hello, I know it’s been a little while since his video was uploaded, but is it possible to get a transcription of this song online? If not, is it possible for you to publish yours?
@@fooball4589 I was thinking that. Not that playing it by sheet music would sound like TMB but it would be educational
Dude is killing me. I mean I'm feeling him, but I'm not mucician. My spell check apparently doesn't speak English.
Clear Spot I feel was the best sound wise.
On the 5th listen you realize that it’s the best thing you’ve listened to
sean brennan sorry bout the weasels, bro
Event at my first listen i understood beefheart was lightyears behind zappa, even Kraldjursanstalten.
That happened to me at a John Zorn concert. At first I was wtf; by the time the show was over I thought it was the perfect music
Musa Tebi watch out hes an intellectual
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going back some 40 years ago i recall thinking maybe one day somebody would break this piece down and show that this is not some random improvised piece because as as a drummer i could hear repetitions with the performers syncing these crazy dynamics. This is mind blowing stuff. thanks for being the guy to explain this and enhancing my enjoyment.
No problem, glad to hear that.
Who knew when we were listening to this in 1971 for pure enjoyment? Those of us who are still alive (RIP John) are still huge fans.
Thank you, Samuel, for having such a great love for Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band. This analysis is amazing.
i’m his great nephew, and john is definitely not dead, he’s alive and kicking.
A 32-minute lecture on one minute and forty seconds of music? I have died and gone to heaven.
I've always admired CBAHMB for their oddness and complexity. However, I've never seen their music broken down so completely and so interestingly as this. Thank you for reminding me why music is so important in human thought and processing.
So glad you enjoyed it.
One of my composition teachers in college said that if you could transcribe something from Trout Mask Replica, then you would automatically pass all 2 years of aural skills. You did incredible work pulling out all the strands from the thicket of sounds, it shows you are as dedicated to this music as the original musicians were. Thanks for this amazing analysis, bravo! The blocks of unrelated and repeating cells remind me of Stravinsky.
I agree the piece overall is in G. But I wonder if the harmony might be better understood from a blues (rather than a classical) perspective, since Beefheart was coming from the blues. For example, it's possible to hear Block 1 in G mixolydian, a common blues mode. This is more convincing than saying the piece opens in C major, then eventually settles on G major. Likewise, I'd say both guitars are still in G mixolydian in Block 5, with Guitar 1 adding ninths and sixths to the G chord, also a common blues device. The strange collection of pitches in the bass in Block 5 makes sense if derived from the C blues scale, which features the sharp 4 and flat 7 degrees. This is supported by all the other bass cells which seem to be in C minor. Of course, having the bass in another key complicates things, but it's not so far out if you consider that C is the IV chord in a G blues.
Actually, the tritone is one of the most common sonorities in rock music, because it is in the blues scale. Just ask Black Sabbath :)
That Van Vliet and the Magic Band crafted a full-on avant-garde music directly from the blues was their singular achievement on Trout Mask Replica. Usually, avant-garde music and the blues couldn't be further apart!
Thanks for taking the time to write this, and I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the video. My analysis is by no means perfect, and in retrospect I'd probably want to refine one or two points, but I stand by my harmonic analysis. You'll notice that I didn't include the voice part in my analysis -- mainly because I wanted to emphasize the intricacy of the instrumental parts. However, the voice part in Block 1 clearly grounds the section in C major, as do the instruments. I really can't hear this section as being a subdominant of G, mixolydian or not. At any rate, the piece uses a complicated mesh of modal, tonal and some chromatic elements, and as such, other points of view are certainly possible (and welcome). Best regards, Samuel
Huh
I think you’re essentially right. This seems to boil down to an attempt to combine the blues with the sort of pattern music Terry Riley and others had been experimenting with earlier in the decade. Whether the Captain had ever even heard of Riley is open question, but similar ideas were in the air at the time.
I mentioned the tritone myself, by the way, in another comment I posted before reading your comment.
@@samuel_andreyev For a video of this length there was certainly plenty to digest, and I thank you for that! However, an analysis that completely ignores what is happening musically in the primary melodic line isn't really getting the job done, is it? You could have used the time you spent with the text on the musical content of the vocal instead, even if it was just a sumarization. I'm hoping you or someone else will finish the job that was well started here!
Every cut on this album is worthy of the fine analysis you've given here.
I bought this album when I was a kid because I loved the colors of it. I was surprised that the music sounded exactly like what it looked like, and I loved it.
And, in five hundred years, people will be watching this and so thankful that Samuel recorded this analysis. And, that he championed it.
This is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen in RUclips. Period. Thank you so much Samuel. Rarely have I seen someone talks so intelligently and eloquently about music. Frownland was actaully always one of my least favourite tracks in TMR but now I will listen to it completely different.
Yochai Wolf You're welcome, I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it.
Really? I've always loved Frownland. But I never realized it was the most musically complex piece on the album.
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This was absolutely amazing. Would love more Trout Mask analysis! Would click a donate button if necessary as this is important work.
Chris Huff Thank you. There is a patreon link if you are interested in helping me to keep the channel going -- it's in the video description.
I have to side with Chris. You need to set up a Paypal button. Think of it in terms of music purchases; some people just want to buy a song (Paypal), and others are more interested in the album (Patreon).
Your video on Varese with this one compel me to throw money at you, but not on a monthly basis. Meanwhile, I am not on Patreon and don't wish to go through the rigamarole so I can remunerate you for your service.
heckler73 So you feel compelled to throw money at me? I like the cut of your jib. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll see about setting something like that up.
Samuel,
Please do, so I can get this evil $10 bill off my conscience.
But seriously, you do realize this is all leading to you eventually doing some Zappa analysis, right? ;-)
You've already been laying out the groundwork for _his_ influences, and here is an album he _produced_. It only seems a natural consequence.
Keep up the weird work, I'm loving every minute of it (usually multiple times, because your vids need more than a once over ).
Yes, Zappa would be a logical choice, although I'm far from an expert on his music and there are lots of people out there who are. I'll keep it in mind.
Thank you so much for doing this, Samuel. Such a lot of work! Would love to see more.
THIS is the kind of video that makes me hate myself for not spending time learning more about music.
Thank you so much for posting this incredible video.
It's an honour to be of some use. Thanks for watching.
Great job, Samuel Andreyev!. I bought this album when it first came out and I've never ceased to love it. So good to see it taken seriously in precisely the way that you have done - not too seriously but seriously enough. Well done, keep going. I'm listening.
what a fantastic video! your ability to break down a one-minute-thirty long song into half an hour of detailed analysis is amazing, and helped me appreciate the album a whole lot more than I already did, even if some of the technical terminology goes over my head. subscribed for more excellent analysis like this :)
Absolutely fascinating analysis of incredibly unique music. Thanks for this, Samuel.
Thank you for creating a quantitative musical analysis of this piece. I can't imagine the time it took to think of it all and put this together.
Unexpected choice of music, indeed! Thank you for making these analyses, glad I subscribed.
Thanks for that...much appreciated delving into the complexities of this masterpiece.
I was very interested in this review. Trout Mask Replica is an album which changed my life. I discovered it in my teens in the mid 70s and became totally fascinated by it. The album is an amazing piece of work, totally tied down, very tight and rehearsed on the one hand, but wild and liberating to listen to. I have to say that I love this album more than any other rock/pop album and today I live a better more open life than I would have if I had never encountered it. I love experimental art in all its forms, I even live in Brighton & Hove city in England because there is such a great experimental art scene here. All this because of Trout Mask Replica.
It's interesting how very important music is, isn't it. I first heard TMR when I was about 15 and it certainly left a lasting impression. It's a clarion call to imaginative freedom and creative utopia.
Astounding attention to detail Samuel, the work you are doing here is so important to me, Thank you so much !
Thank you so much for breaking down what I had always felt in my gut - that this album, and this song in particular, is a work of genius. Of special importance is your analysis of the patterns - so many people think it's just discordant improvisation, but they've merely heard it, not listened to it carefully. Captain Beefheart and The Magic Band locked themselves up in a house for eight months, rehearsing, and when they went into the studio they knocked out the entire double album in 4.5 hours. It's essentially a live recording.
Superb analysis of a brilliant work. Ill never forget how this album - and this opening track in particular- startled me when I first played the vinyl 30 years ago. Im still listening!
So refreshing to have this material demystified and taken 'seriously' & held aloft with other great composers. As a drummer, this album changed my perception of what was possible in composing behind the drum kit, let alone where a song could go.Thanks for committing time to this and dissecting it.
BTW, I love hearing the phrases played on the acoustic instruments to illustrate the transcriptions. I could listen to the entire album rendered in that fashion - it would really highlight the album's complexity as well as illustrate cleanly what is REALLY going on!
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Love your channel! I'm a music composition student and have never heard this album and thanks to this video I'm now checking it out. I listened to this song right before watching tour analysis and didn't hear anything in it. Then after watching your analysis I was able to hear all the stuff you were talking about. Interesting how analysis can change the way you hear. This track reminds me of Perriot lunare in the sense that the instrumental parts seem to stand on their own and the voice part is just another color on top of it giving the piece a lyrical narrative.
Nicholas Mackelprang I'm so happy to hear that -- it means I've done my job as an analyst! Thanks for writing.
I never ever would have expected this!!!! Awesome Samuel, my favorite RUclips channel in the present :)
Glad you enjoyed it and thank you for the kind words :)
Thank you! Wonderful in depth work.
Best wishes.
This video was a fantastic insight into a record I’ve been recently drawn to. Bravo, Samuel.
What a great video, it's so interesting to have the music broken down into it's parts in this way and to seriously look at what is there.
Thank you so much, it was about time that a professional took a serious look at this work of art. I bet there is a lot more to say about this album, I wish I could watch an analytical video of every song, I'm not a composition student but I'd definitively take my time to digest all of this.
Brilliant. Been a big fan of Beefheart for many years, and i have never seen such a careful and accurate analysis of his unique form of music. Yes, i also love Stravinsky. Thank you very much for this.
The fact that this is your most viewed video is glorious!
Lttp but thanks for successfully tackling the analysis of a TMR song. This is the best explanation I have ever seen.
Now I need time to go through your other videos!
"The fact that..." - you know who.
Superb analysis. As you say the drumming is so unique and special. I saw them live and the drum rhythm structure was extraordinarily satisfying. In fact the live performances as well as superbly performed and rehearsed showed each musician following their own pattern yet somehow meshed. Breathtaking. They rush to the front of the stage in waves and stomp all around the stage while playing their instruments with great precision.
Sam, thanks so much for taking the time to make this. Great analysis of a great artist.
gears5336 No problem -- thanks for writing.
My man, this is no joke one of the best youtube videos I've ever seen. Thanks so much for this.
Thanks!
I loved listening to this breakdown, I always saw Frownland as a pallette cleanser for what's to come and so I didnt ever think of it as much as i did the rest of the album, but this has reminded me of how amazing the song is and of how theres something else there that I as a listener can at least try to comprehend. This is what youtube is for
What a brilliant analysis! Keep up the great work!
"If you are a music student, and you haven't listened to this entire record at least 4 times, then your musical education is woefully incomplete. Every composer should know this record, everyone seriously interested in music needs to know it, because it's an amazing achievement on all sorts of levels". Samuel Andreyev, Composer Thank you Samuel, I agree 100%. This was a very important album for me in 1969, and it still is today.
Another whole-hearted agreement with those pronouncements here. TMR is a transcendent musical achievement, quite unlike anything else ever committed to record. The closest thing are the other albums in the Beefheart catalog. I'm a huge fan of the first two 80's albums, Shiny Beast and Doc at the Radar Station.
for you!!!!!!!!!!!!
A 30 minute analysis of a dog taking a shit
Actually, I agree.
If you know anything about Captain Beefheart/Don Vliet’s history can you really believe that Trout Mask Replica was “Technical Genius” or just “Creative Chaos” by one crazy guy & 4 starving musicians that wanted to be rock & roll stars?
Hats off to you Samuel! Very insightful analysis; well done!
Wow. I really loved this. While I am not a musician at any definable level that I am comfortable admitting to, you have really helped me gain a deeper understanding as to why I love this music. Thanks. Great Work.
So beautiful. I'm welling up.
You have a remarkable understanding young man.
I love this record and also Doc at the Radar Station. Thank you for this amazing breakdown of the piece.
Thanks for this video and analysis. It ended up meaning more to me than I expected. Captain Beefheart is a name that I link, through my childhood as a little kid in the 70s, to my stepfather ( who passed away back in 99). He had these giant wooden cabinets filled with hundreds of albums on vinyl. Over my lifetime, we sat down together and listened to about 50% of them, and on my own I listened to another 20%. He had orchestral music, he had Captain and Tennille, Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Beatles, Stones, Mac Davis, and on and on and on. He had a bunch of Captain Beefheart albums. We never got around to those. He told me they were great but hard to explain. But because my stepdad was a chubby guy, somehow I always associated the name Captain Beefheart with him because it sounds like a funny name for a chubby guy. So all my life that name made me think of my stepdad. But I never actually listened to the music. I got real deep into jazz and progressive rock and strange music but I always assumed Captain Beefheart was something silly but pleasant, based on the name. And these days I'm hardcore into Dominican traditional music as well as anything afro-cuban.
So it was an incredible delight for me to watch this video, and realize this band was something meaty and deep that I could bite into. I probably would never have found out if I hadn't seen this channel and watched the analysis. It gives me something completely new to me to discover, and it has let me reconnect with fond memories of my stepdad that I never expected.
While this is obviously just a happy coincidence, I still want to thank you for this analysis and for giving me some new and old roads to explore that a mere week ago, I never would have dreamed of. Thank you!!!
What a great story -- glad to hear from you. It's wonderful to know that my videos can help people discover music off the beaten path.
Wow! This might have been the greatest youtube video I've ever seen! I clicked o the link skeptically, as when someone talks about this album all they do is remark how "weird" it is. Turns out I was totally mindblown. This is one of my favorite pieces of music and I can't believe you deciphered it.
You're too kind. Glad it was helpful.
I've been listening to this album since 1971! It had more of an effect on me than my first semester of college, which happened at the same time. I bought the album right at the beginning of my first semester. Well, even after all these years, I would still say that Pachuco Cadaver is my favorite song on the album. It's an amazing song, and not just the music. The lyrics of the album were a big part of why I was just blown away by the album. I memorized many of them and would recite them for the poor students in my French class, mainly. I don't listen so much anymore, but still I would say that this album had a huge effect on me. Other songs that were quite influential on me are Steal Softly thru Snow, Ella Guru, The Blimp, Old Fart at Play, The Dust blows forward 'n the Dust blows Back (my ex-wife's favorite! :) ... oh, there were so many...
"Energy flies through a field, and the sun softly melts the nothing wheel... The black paper between the mirror, breaks my heart that I can't go, steal softly thru sunshine, steal softly thru snow..."
I gotta stop now. I'll get started on a Beefheart "thing" and nobody wants that! haha
Thank you for all your great work. All this Beefheart stuff is amazing. I made a donation using donorbox. Take care, Charlie
Trout Mask was the greatest noise of the 60's. Lick my decals was the greatest noise of the 70's. Doc at the Radar Station was the greatest noise of the 80's. All at the hands of Don Van Vliet. In 1,000 years people will be listening to Captain Beefheart. England has a good vision for majestic talent. They worship Buddy Holly, Brian Wilson and Captain Beefheart. So do I. All revolutionary people in the world of recorded sound and composition. Beefheart went for all the marbles and he got them and he has them for all time. Nobody slays the captain.
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“Exactly,Mascara Snake.
Fast...and bulbous”!
I always play " Big Eyed Beans From Venus" or "Electricity" or "Kandy Korn" to people who've never heard Beefheart. People start playing air guitar or air drums and headbanging and moving! Good times I'm sure we'll have again!
Brilliant analysis, Samuel! Thank you for addressing this music with the appropriate seriousness it deserves.
Thank you so much. I saw Don's first East Coast performance with the Magic Band at Ungano's in New York City in 1970. It changed my life, and I was fortunate to see him live with different incarnations of the band 4 times. I miss him every single day.
Fun fact: the song “Vertigo” by Aztec Camera has the following lines:
Now that her smile has stuck
I cannot go back to your frownland
And that song sounds NOTHING like Captain Beefheart.
Like "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Frownlands" sounding nothing like Bob Dylan's "Sad-Eyed Lady of the Lowlands" nor with Beefheart's "Frownland".
It took me a year of listening for me to "get" this album. It was well worth this commitment. It defeinately expanded my musical universe. I agree that John French should get much more recognition for his contribution. He should get co authourship I think. This stuff is so frightfully original it really helps dispell many layers of banality that suround us these days. Thank you soo much Samuel Andreyev for this analysis. It is truly WONDERFUL. It verifies to me all the wonderful things I hear in this album are based on sound musical principals and not just chaos. This makes me very happy. My smile is stuck. Long live Captain Beefhearts music.
You know your Tadpoles. Thank you for putting your Read Magic Spell on this Frownland enchantment.
Having seen the wizards at work I knew they played what you hear on the records.
Your explanation has made it much clearer to a written music illiterate.
Good job. I listened to it when it came out and am still listening to it. Great stuff.
Hope you can do more of this album!
This video is incredible! Although I love this album it has always been an impenetrable choas to me. Now at least I understand Frownland! Thank you!
It’s so very interesting and amusing to see Captain Beefheart’s music analyzed and dissected so skillfully and with such complete appreciation.
I have a very special place in my heart for this music. It is COMPLETELY outside of the box.
this is unbelievable that now after all this time someone.....you sam ........ has shown the world how amazing and intricate and awe inspiring and original and unique this music
eally is Bravo Mr. Andreyev
Thank you for your kind words.
Great to see such a thorough analysis.
Just fantastic. I thought I'd gotten lucky when I discovered your analysis of the Stravinsky Quartet Pieces, but I had no idea a video looking into Trout Mask Replica was on the cards. So glad I subscribed, please, more like this and anything else you want to make!
On that note, I don't know if you do requests, but I ache for more online video content analysing the works of Bartók. His string quartets in particular remind me of the dense complexity of this Beefheart album. A video looking into the endless wonders of, say, his 4th Quartet, or even just a movement, would be wonderful.
Keep it up please!
Sonny Williamson Thanks for taking the time to comment! Bartók is a great idea. The 4th quartet is one of the first pieces I ever seriously analyzed -- could be perfect for the channel. I'll keep it in mind.
Amen to Bartók and the 4th quartet
I'd also look forward to any analyses of Bartók's quartets.
Sonny Williamson YEAH ! Beefheart and Bartok , it don't get any better. 😀
beef heart & zappa had what was vital in music talent originality & a vision in sound.ths 2l p set is all about originality with talent the whole band deserve credit.although don was the conductor like frank zappa was the conductor of the mothers.its all about guiding the talent around them to create a masterpiece.their musicianship is top notch.but you have gotta hear it on analogue vinyl to fully unlock the unrestricted sonic,s.ive got an english american & german copy i dont know why but i got 3 copies lol.ive got the first lp safe as milk in mono & stereo.i highly recommend the mono.safe as milk & the legendary a & m sessions which is a 5 song set show the start of don experimenting moon child is a great original piece.don was badly fucked over by the record company on the strictly personal lp which was meant to be a 2lp set.but released as a single lp while don was away gigging.session musicians that simplified the original rhythms re-recorded the rhythm,s.there is still so much people havnt heard the outtakes are completely different much of this material has been released but sadly many reissue labels today are betraying musical history by enforcing a digital vinyl only reissue scheme.every digital reissue has criminal multiple overdubs purely to hide the inferior sonic,s this is the biggest betrayal to musical history done purely to make sure the cd & mp3 versions dont sound inferior to the vinyl release..
Thanks for this... my favorite Beefheart track is" Bellerin' Plain" off of Lick My Decals Off... great live recording from Detroit showing how the live versions were the studio versions live... no improvisation
Thank you so very much for your insightfully incredible analysis
This review was really expertly done. Well done man 👍
Wow, thank you for making this I really enjoyed it. My theory knowledge is rather basic but I enjoy using prior music that I enjoy to study and help get a better grasp on what makes all of this tick. And this album is the pinnacle of Free Jazz composing, so it's great to have a closer idea on making sense of this compositional puzzle. I'd really appreciate if you made more videos on this, since there doesn''t seem to be much else online in regards of breaking down the songwriting structures on here.
Hi Chris, thanks for writing. I've had to take a break from the channel for a few weeks as I attend to some other urgent professional matters, but I'll be back very shortly with more content -- including another Beefheart video. Incidentally, from a technical perspective, this music has virtually nothing in common with free jazz. The only musical element that might recall free jazz is Beefheart's soprano sax playing, although even there, it's really not the same thing..
Excellent analysis, simply excellent. Thank you very much.
Thank you for this enlightening work of yours! Very interesting.
I love (almost)* all of Beefheart's work, but TMR is my lifelong Rosetta Stone. I probably wouldn't have ever made my own music if not for the inspiration of Don and the band(s), to say nothing of how it's inspired me in visual art, too. GREAT work on this, thank you for putting the time in. Somebody's leavin' peanuts on the curbins... and it's you.
*Tragic Band era, obviously
Wow..... amazing analysis. Thank you.
Thanks for this analysis and the respect and admiration you show for this album. A lot of people just don’t understand.
FANTASTIC. Thank you for this study!
I just can’t get over how this was live. How is that even possible? I would become so overwhelmed with all the different stuff going on. I could understand if the parts were being recorded individually and then layered on top of each other but the fact a group of people stood round and played this is mind blowing.
Wow - what a brilliant piece on this track - it has given some resonance and rationale to my love of this album over the last forty eight years. John French was a saint to get all Don's ideas into a playable format. I have just recognised from your analysis of this one track how complex and difficult that must have been for him. He kept the music going by playing it live with a bunch of ex magic band members and some new additions from 2003 onwards but sadly has decided to call it a day. There's a project in there for you and a few like minded people...
Michael Barry Thank you for your encouraging words. I hope I'll get a chance to hear John French perform some day. He's a truly great musician.
Very much enjoyed this and learned a lot about a record I've loved for decades.
You just earned yourself a new subscriber. Thank you for this amazing video :)
This music is in my marrow. Somehow. What cut and integrated it is a mystery; I did not do the emotionally responsive analysis you mentioned. Knowing what makes up a piece transforms my experience, taking away some of the stimulation it gives to parts of me- some parts of my psyche even unrelated to the actual music- and brings new and stronger emotional responses.
Thank you for the breakdown. Brilliant work. I’m going to listen with a fresh ear.
Brilliant analysis of a great work of art. Extremely interesting. One of the non professional musicians who watches 🙋 You can't an expert enthusing on their subject. 👏
This was a great analysis. Frownland is the most difficult track in this song for me to break apart and understand, and now I can see why. I've never heard 5s against 7s before.
Many thanks for that illuminating analysis. I’ve been trying to convince others of this album’s brilliance since I first heard it as a 15 year old back in ‘71. I was still at it only last week but got the usual “this is just a terrible racket!” response. It’s their loss. I had the pleasure of seeing them live a couple of times in Birmingham, UK.
I’d love you to talk more about those unique truncated riffs they used such as in “Ice cream for crow” (though by that time it was a completely new Magic band).
Thanks again.
DURR POLYRHYTHM = "GOOD". HAHA. THEIR LOSS LOOOOLLL
What a fantastic video/analysis! Thanks for all the work and insights and sharing it all as you do. I interviewed John French for Drummer (UK), who I wrote for for about a decade. They didn't run the piece, alas. I'll put it on my blog, in case anyone's interested. I first encountered this music through a compilation cassette a friend made for me when I was about 14-15 years old, many moons ago. It was represented by just one track, Pachuco Cadaver. Unlike many - one so often hears folk saying how it took them a long time to get into this music - I adored it right off. It then took several years of musical research to find out who the music was by, and how I could get hold of it. When I finally got TMR, the anticipation had built so much that the release of acquisition and immersion was... well, sublime. No listening repeatedly to 'get it'; I got it right off. It spoke directly to me. Still does. As you say, TMR is frequently cited as an influence or touchstone, but it's less obvious to see or hear genuine influences in subsequent music. Are you aware of British musician Lewis Taylor's TMR recordings? He did a partial 'tribute', of covers - both very, very faithful, but also bearing his own imprint - which is, frankly, utterly amazing. It's a real pity he didn't complete and release this project. Anyhoo... great stuff!
Thanks for posting, amazing channel.
I never read the text of Frownland until now. Beefheart is clearly saying he took acid and never came down. Changes my view of this album.
"Sometimes I get tired of just smilin'" - S. Clay Wilson
I thought that it was about him accepting a new frontier of music and asking others to accept it too? I don't know anything though, haha
@@Noah-wx7fm I love this alternative. The interpretation of the word smile can influence the rest of the song. Thank you for sharing, man.
@@minimonkey252 haha, thank you for listening😊. As I said, I really don't know anything about Beefheart or the time it was written in. I'm just now getting into it this week. I formed this interpretation when I first heard it like around two years ago. I think its because I heard someone say that Frownland gets you ready for the rest of the album, before I played it for myself
Not coming down can be kinda tough
Samuel, you certainly got it right regarding the way critics talk about it. To be fair, they do talk that way about everything ... the awful searching for non-musical adjectives to misappropriate that they haven't already flogged to death previously, and so forth. This is fine music indeed. Records that get right down to business without wasting time tend to be off to a good start with me, and this leadoff track is a good example of that.
I had no idea that the musicians were so young at the time; that makes it seem even more remarkable to me.
His singing reminds me at times of the great Howlin' Wolf.
This album has been part of my life for about 15 years now. I've always loved its sound, its texture, its absurdly complicated tapestry of rhythms, and I swear that, after watching this video, I'll never listen to it the same way again. I would've never imagined that these melodies and lines were buried in this song, and it makes me wish I wrote music like this.
Loved it the first time I heard it back in the day. I thought, "what IS this? I must have it!" Great analysis, Samuel. Mr. Harkelroad once told me (via podcast years ago) about the blending of tracks, via FZ magic, on Veteran's Day Poppy, another TM favorite -although I've heard attempts at live performance of the transition.
Brilliant work, many thanks.
👍🏾🎸🤯✌🏾I never knew! I totally blew this off. I used to gig at the old Fillmore back in the day. When Beefheart played his set, I thought they were 3rd rate posers, trying imitate Ornette or Trane. I’m all ears now - better late than never!!!!!!
They were 3rd rate posers. You were spot on. The album is only 'celebrated' because of its drug associations.
@@annaclarafenyo8185 no one’s gonna be discussing your music 50 years from now.
@@floobuscanoobus No one is going to be discussing Beefheart's music either. The only reason people are discussing it today is for historical reasons, for association with Zappa.
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Trout mask replica needs a remix, because even knowing the harmony, I can barely hear anything over the tinny attack of the guitars. Listening extremely closely, hearing underneath the mix into the music, it sounds amazing. I feel I have missed out, and others have missed out as well.
Fix your eq
true, its so un-listenable lol
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Yes..much of his best work was poorly recorded.
Surely it sounds like Mr. van Vliet wanted it to. FZ did the work but it's hard to imagine the Captain compromising on that.
Thank you very much for this .. fantastic .. it helps me reconcile a visceral love of asymmetry & dissonance across all genres of 20th/21st century music .. and the kicker? makes me want to play guitar again! brilliant!
I'm so happy to hear that. These sorts of comments really make the enterprise worthwhile. Stay tuned!
This is fucking awesome. Thanks for going in deep on one of my favourite songs of all time!
Amazing dissection of this song, thanks! My respect increased when you pulled out Grow Fins! Indispensable listening for any Beefheart "stan". Thanks again for a brilliant analysis, subbed on the strength of this video. So great that you took the time to do this, I'm more-or-less completely musically illiterate and this is a fantastic comprehension tool. Have you ever read John French's book? Very illuminating stuff. It's a good companion for the Grow Fins boxset.
vollsticks Thanks for your comments. I read John's book cover to cover when researching for our interview. Check out my non-Beefheart videos too, eh? You might enjoy the ones on Varèse..
Samuel, as a guitar teacher of 40 years and the proud owner of Trout Mask Replica I must say that was the most fascinating 30 minutes I have ever seen on RUclips and I've watched a lot. Your discussion of Bass Cell 14 and the F# and C notes and saying it doesn't appear in rock music reminded me that ,if I am correct, the flattened fifth interval was called the Devils Interval in earlier music and was not allowed to be played by order of the religious masters because of its demonic connotations. It does however appear in the intro to Jimi Hendrix's Purple Haze. Of course if anyone was going to use it and get away with it then Jimi was the logical choice! Absolutely fascinating. I'm off to see the Mascara Snake! Cheers, Peter from Tasmania.
Thank you Peter, your comment made my day. Glad you enjoyed the video. Greetings from Strasbourg, France.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. As all who know the album it takes a few listens. Something like this... Its terrible.. Its interesting...its amazing.... Its the best thing ive ever heard. Once you have got your head around it everything else just sounds boring. It made me go out and find other challenging music to listen to. What an achievement. Thx!
Thank you for this analysis and for introducing me to this great album. I was particularly hit screams, for example in the track "Sugar 'n Spikes", for example.
This analysis demonstrates that music appreciation is a skill that can be developed. Whether its the music theory, the meaning of the lyrics, instrumentation, affect, or the historical context, etc the more you know and understand the more likely you are to enjoy any piece of music and be informed by it. I just bought the vinyl of TMR on the basis of reputation and I don't know how many listens it will take as its apparently very 'difficult'. It 'only' took me 6 listens of Laura Nyro's stark and emotionally intense but relatively accessible avant-garde pop of 'New York Tendaberry' (1969), and only a few listens to 'get' Nico's gothic dirge 'The Marble Index' (1969). Gotta love those 1969 challenges!
Indeed, the more effort you put into it, the more you are able to distinguish in the art. It's like the difference between seeing a stick figure drawing of a person, and a high-resolution photograph.
what wonderful analysis. thank you.
This is simply marvellous work - well done! You must have an incredible ear to have transcribed those parts. And people think Stravinsky is hard :)
macronencer Thank you :) Stay tuned for more.
Picked up an original vinyl copy of this on the Straight label a few months ago. It's one of my prized possessions, a grail indeed.
Gimme that old time religion.....
if it's good enough for me, then it's good enough for you
Old Time Relijun is an amazing band.
As someone whose listened to more professors analyze contemporary music than I can keep count of, I never in my wildest dreams thought I would find such an entertaining and informative analysis of anything by Captain Beefheart, much less one of his most complex songs. I envy your students.
Fascinating analysis of my favorite track from the most inspirational album in my lifetime. But I'm an old hippy with that utopian humanist vision of how things could be.