@Wodenson War is not an excuse for murdering innocent men. If the governments wanted to go to war, why didn't they arm themselves and fight on the front lines instead of our loved ones?
Cos it wasn't the fault of the current government. 'Guilt transfer' is so wrong. If your grandad murdered someone 50 years ago you don't expect to compensate their family.
Shell shock was actually known about and what caused it during WW1, by most of the countries involved medical professionals. They also had a good idea on what treatment was required. The problem was the horrific and traumatic conditions that the main battles were being waged under meant that convincing Military leaders who desperately needed men in battle, that it was a medical issue took a long time. That did eventually happen, but not until very late on in the war.
At the Allied landings at Bari, Italy, in WW2, the Allied ships were unloading in the harbour, and they placed the ammunition ship a short distance aside thinking that the Axis planes would not bother with it when there was much more damage to be done among the concentrated ships in the harbour. However, a lone Italian bomber did bomb it, releasing mustard gas that was stored on the ship in case of need, although I do not know of any authorised release of this WW1 gas by either side in WW2. This gas drifted across the landings affecting Allied soldiers, including a relative of mine who had to wear dark glasses even indoors for the rest of his life. He was supervising the unloading of Sherman tanks on the qu key (I never could spell these French words) when the fuel tank caught fire because the tank commander lit a match, and opened the fuel tank to see how much petrol he had. The fuel gushed out (as it was brim full) and spilt over the man. Owen Oates reached inside the tank and got clothing and stripped/beat out the fire on the man, and prevented it from spreading to the fuel oil on the water, surrounding the ships. He then put clothing over his hand and replaced the lid. There was a bit of a shudder and the fire was out. He got a mention in despatches for this, for saving the man and preventing the fire from expanding. So, in addition to the gas, he was badly burnt. He was taken to hospital and invalided out of the army. He settled back on his farm outside Harrismith, Orange Free State, South Africa. He thought it was the fire that had damaged his eyes, but died before an article was published in the New Scientist magazine where a British ex-soldier was mentioned as suffering from the mustard gas, and the story came out. None of the governments acknowledged what had injured these men and no compensation was ever paid!
Something you might want to cover is the Manchester regiment who was billeted at the Baptist church in Cleethorpes during ww1 that was bombed by the Germans I think a zeppelin they where killed. There is a blue plaque on the church and a memorial in Cleethorpes cemetery. There is also a zeppelin in the river Humber. I only know small details myself but something that should be known of what happened
You can only feel for these men and the grave injustice they suffered. I ask myself how the men of the firing squad must have felt , they would have been selected with out any choice. I can honestly not see a single man volunteering to be part of a firing squad
They did know of Trench foot being in Waist Deep Rat infected muddy water.. Huge Flue fatalities Thousands of men had Feet Hands Legs Amputed from Gangrene, Dysentary was also endemic.
Some simple math helps tell the story. Around 5 million men were in the British Army in WWI. Only about 3000 death sentences were handed out and of these it said that 90% weren't carried out. That is an infinitesimally small number. I have no doubt that some of these were unjust but then you're looking at a war where there were 60 THOUSAND casualties on Day One at the Battle of the Somme for the British Army. I assure anyone reading that accidental friendly fire deaths were orders of magnitude larger than this. It does seem right that eventually they were pardoned as some instances (though not for example the two guys running away from their night duty) seem to have extenuating circumstances.
It is a fact that the British were particularly brutal occupiers of countries all round the world. That the culture of brutality extended to their own people should come as a surprise to no one.
There is a memorial to all these men with names attached to posts, if memory serves most have date of birth on but some do not which means they were under age, Alrewas near Lichfield is the place, well worth a visit.
Issue with this video. War should only be waged by those who want to participate, that solves shell shock. You act like shell shock is anything but fear beyond capability to preform. How is this fixed? Something worse than the fear of death. Usually pain and or shame. This video is propaganda to get you to fall into the same trap we always do, which is war. It tries to blame these men’s executions on Shellshock, which is really a lack of willingness to participate. They would rather be shamefully killed on schedule than killed in an absolutely random unseen and horrible way. The real real tragedy, we are still primal and have not moved on from this. We will STILL round up men who have nothing to do with these nasty conflicts of bankers, and send them to the RNG meat grinder, which is what war is. Shame. Humans have evolved, we no longer crave war.
That is absolutely awful! Thank you very much for such an informative video.
So why have the families of these wronged men never been compensated? Why have our governments never apologised for the murders of those men?
because "war" 😔
@Wodenson War is not an excuse for murdering innocent men. If the governments wanted to go to war, why didn't they arm themselves and fight on the front lines instead of our loved ones?
Cos it wasn't the fault of the current government. 'Guilt transfer' is so wrong. If your grandad murdered someone 50 years ago you don't expect to compensate their family.
7:35 they were eventually pardoned
@@19DOS93 Individually named?
In all honesty, I can imagine the mentality in WW1 was "WIN THE WAR"!!! worry about PTSD after the victory! Your well-being is second to the mission.
Shell shock was actually known about and what caused it during WW1, by most of the countries involved medical professionals. They also had a good idea on what treatment was required.
The problem was the horrific and traumatic conditions that the main battles were being waged under meant that convincing Military leaders who desperately needed men in battle, that it was a medical issue took a long time. That did eventually happen, but not until very late on in the war.
At the Allied landings at Bari, Italy, in WW2, the Allied ships were unloading in the harbour, and they placed the ammunition ship a short distance aside thinking that the Axis planes would not bother with it when there was much more damage to be done among the concentrated ships in the harbour. However, a lone Italian bomber did bomb it, releasing mustard gas that was stored on the ship in case of need, although I do not know of any authorised release of this WW1 gas by either side in WW2. This gas drifted across the landings affecting Allied soldiers, including a relative of mine who had to wear dark glasses even indoors for the rest of his life. He was supervising the unloading of Sherman tanks on the qu key (I never could spell these French words) when the fuel tank caught fire because the tank commander lit a match, and opened the fuel tank to see how much petrol he had. The fuel gushed out (as it was brim full) and spilt over the man. Owen Oates reached inside the tank and got clothing and stripped/beat out the fire on the man, and prevented it from spreading to the fuel oil on the water, surrounding the ships. He then put clothing over his hand and replaced the lid. There was a bit of a shudder and the fire was out. He got a mention in despatches for this, for saving the man and preventing the fire from expanding. So, in addition to the gas, he was badly burnt. He was taken to hospital and invalided out of the army. He settled back on his farm outside Harrismith, Orange Free State, South Africa. He thought it was the fire that had damaged his eyes, but died before an article was published in the New Scientist magazine where a British ex-soldier was mentioned as suffering from the mustard gas, and the story came out. None of the governments acknowledged what had injured these men and no compensation was ever paid!
Something you might want to cover is the Manchester regiment who was billeted at the Baptist church in Cleethorpes during ww1 that was bombed by the Germans I think a zeppelin they where killed. There is a blue plaque on the church and a memorial in Cleethorpes cemetery. There is also a zeppelin in the river Humber. I only know small details myself but something that should be known of what happened
Very sad...
Australians have never behaved in the primitive way that Europeans treat their soldiers. That’s the difference with a civilised democracy.
Thehistorysquad channel made a great story about this! I highly recommend it!
That's the way it was, like it or not. They didn't understand that type of illness.
Unconscienable.
The only person he deserves to be shot at dawn, was the one who ordered it on those poor boys. Butcher Haige.
You can only feel for these men and the grave injustice they suffered. I ask myself how the men of the firing squad must have felt , they would have been selected with out any choice. I can honestly not see a single man volunteering to be part of a firing squad
They did know of Trench foot being in Waist Deep Rat infected muddy water.. Huge Flue fatalities Thousands of men had Feet Hands Legs Amputed from Gangrene, Dysentary was also endemic.
So very very sad and poor reflection on the British army
This is real ptsd, not the self diagnosed stuff people lie about to get benefits.
This video is very much a 21st century approach and doesn't bear any reflection on the reality.
Some simple math helps tell the story. Around 5 million men were in the British Army in WWI. Only about 3000 death sentences were handed out and of these it said that 90% weren't carried out. That is an infinitesimally small number. I have no doubt that some of these were unjust but then you're looking at a war where there were 60 THOUSAND casualties on Day One at the Battle of the Somme for the British Army. I assure anyone reading that accidental friendly fire deaths were orders of magnitude larger than this. It does seem right that eventually they were pardoned as some instances (though not for example the two guys running away from their night duty) seem to have extenuating circumstances.
Ghouls, that is who is elected to office and appointed to military leadership.
It is a fact that the British were particularly brutal occupiers of countries all round the world. That the culture of brutality extended to their own people should come as a surprise to no one.
The whole world was a bloody and brutal place a century ago. It wasn’t confined to one country.
There is a memorial to all these men with names attached to posts, if memory serves most have date of birth on but some do not which means they were under age, Alrewas near Lichfield is the place, well worth a visit.
Horrific 😂
Issue with this video. War should only be waged by those who want to participate, that solves shell shock. You act like shell shock is anything but fear beyond capability to preform. How is this fixed? Something worse than the fear of death. Usually pain and or shame. This video is propaganda to get you to fall into the same trap we always do, which is war. It tries to blame these men’s executions on Shellshock, which is really a lack of willingness to participate. They would rather be shamefully killed on schedule than killed in an absolutely random unseen and horrible way. The real real tragedy, we are still primal and have not moved on from this. We will STILL round up men who have nothing to do with these nasty conflicts of bankers, and send them to the RNG meat grinder, which is what war is. Shame. Humans have evolved, we no longer crave war.
I think about young men like these that went to their death, all for the Union Jack to be thrown down on the ground to lift up the rainbow flag.
Yes all these men from 1st and 2nd world war died in vain. Look at the condition of the UK now