Wuthering Waves Has SAVED The Gacha Genre
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Wuthering Waves Has SAVED Gacha Forever
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What Gacha are YOU most excited for in 2025? Ananta? Arknights Endfield? Azur Promilia? Duet Night Abyss? Neverness to Everness? Unending Dawn?
I can't for Azur promilia myself 😆
The wait is killing me 😅
AP all the way through
Speaking of azur promilia, I wonder when it's releasing we are past the 25th of January.
Arknights Endfield and Azur Promilia. I can't choose so I'll just put both of them on the number one spot.
Arknights, I'm hoping for a bit more mature-themed gacha :D
Rinascita's exploration definitely leans more toward the system that Skyrim, Breath of the Wild, and Elden Ring follow. It feels like a living, breathing world that can operate independently from the player and has tons of unmarked quests and random events around the corner that you can stumble into. I think that's the reason why people say it plays more of a standard-priced AAA game instead of the more inorganic exploration method that Genshin still uses. Not to mention WuWa gives you various tools to explore the world be it by air, land, or water for free and not locking those abilities on certain 5-star characters.
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@@TerTer-e9ncry
Genshin always felt more like an MMORPG than single player RPG to me.
And all of this is just in 6 months. W Wuwa.
You can't spell Wuthering Waves without 2 W's!
@@Stixxy Double Double U
@@Stixxy Double Double U
You can't spell Wuthering Waves without 2 W's!
@@TerTer-e9n what's your problem buddy?
Wuwa is literally AAA level you cant change my mind at all on that.
And they're only improving!
Agree for you
Saying it’s AAA is an insult with how AAA is nowadays this is AAAA.
@@caiovivas250 lmaaaooo
And they're only improving!
Wuwa is a wake up call for gacha games. There's even Inferno Rider too
Inferno Rider is the bad ass boss that you'd hang out and tear up the streets with, Lorelei though... the "date challenge" with her was unexpected. If Kuro made it to where the player could hang out with enemies across the board, that would be hella epic. Imagine a motorcycle drag race against Inferno!
Agree there is even me
As a loyal player since game release, Kuro have my love and respect. I hope for more male characters, but this is completely personal, game it’s amazing
Same here! But I'm also okay with the female characters as I love attractive characters either way. :P
A lot of JP players were also asking for more cool badass male characters…maybe we’ll get our wish in a few patches to come…
For me I only play male characters so I’m really disappointed in this case
Same here! But I'm also okay with the female characters as I love attractive characters either way. :P
A lot of JP players were also asking for more cool badass male characters…maybe we’ll get our wish in a few patches to come…
I wouldn't go that far as " WuWa SAVED the gacha genre", simply because the concept of "gacha" is a self destroying mechanic, but surely Kuro raised the bar a LOT, in showing that one can use a better business model than simply frustrating players beyond exhaustion like some other companies * yoyoverse cough cough *
lol. Fanboy
@@TerTer-e9n fanboy of whom? You have issues with people not taking blindly whataver stuff is on the internet?
I think wuwa is sort of actually GOOD game that so happen to be on a gacha game. So Wuwa become sort of "example" or "standard" for other dev for making the player actually happy to play the game, which the term of "WuWa SAVED the gacha genre" is born. (in my personal view or opinion at least)
Like i spent... 0 cents on this game (yet) since 1.0, but i've got charlotta, jinshin+her sig, changli+her sig, xiangli yao+his sig, camellya+sig. not counting the standard 5 stars character that i've got for free by just playing the game.
While on Genshin, i need to spent 300 usd just for Arataki itto C0 and 200 USD for Shenhe C0 for their character + signature weapon. And fyi, i've been playing genshin when around Inazuma is started.
At the time Genshin Impact also raised the bar, compared to other gacha games which previously were mostly jpg collectors. It just stayed at the same level while competition caught up.
@@TerTer-e9nAnd you clearly crying about it
It took 6 months only. Proud to be a day1 wuwa enjoyer😢❤
I love how they become THE Gold standard even less than a year and that's crazy!
The Gold standard is PGR, Wuwa is a massive downgrade
@@PLAYER1789 I love PGR as well, but I doubt those 2 are comparable, PGR has a greater plot and combat but not a fulfilling gameplay experience
@@PLAYER1789L comment
@@PLAYER1789 Dude, I've been playing PGR since launch, and Wuwa is easly a massive improvement mechanically and graphically, not saying PGR is bad, it's easily better than any of Hoyo's games, but your statement is a massive L.
@@deeptobhattacharyya3249this is an L comment. You can play pgr for days and still not finish everything in the game. There's so much to do
I just started a few weeks ago. I finished the Mt. Firmament questline and was blown away by the quality of the cutscenes animation and exploration. If the other expansions are as good as they say, I'm going to be playing Wuwa for a looooong time. So happy my first gacha game experience is this good
Call me Kurobot, Kuroshill or anything u like. For me, these terms are just pure compliments 😂
Imagine them topping this even more in 3.0… Frankly it doesn’t seem they are even close to their peak.
Imagination is their only limit.
Imagination is their only limit.
its not even anniversary yet xdd
The digestibility of the 2.0 Story is really something to appreciate. It means feeling like my time is valued again
Been playing Wuwa since 27th of May last year (5 days after release), I own every character, a lot of the sig weapons, all my limited 5-stars are built to utmost perfection. 100% owning all trophies. Something about this game is constantly giving me chill vibes, it's a place where you can calm down and be captivated by the environment. Never regretted spending my time and money in this game as it is definitely easily a triple A game for me and a leader-defining in the genre of gacha games. Wuwa is not just simply a gacha game, it's a feeling, passion, determination combined altogether.
I play since 24 may 🫂
Lol. Fanboy Lucker. Wuwa is not a feeling, not a passion, not a goal combined into one. Considering that kuros don't really hide with .... inspiration
@@ChangeOfHearts39 lmaaooo
I play since 24 may
@@TerTer-e9n 🫂
For the Gacha Open-world now, it seems that... The Waves are... Wuthering.
Wuwa killed the Hoyo model for me, ZZZ included.
Yup. Massive improvement to Gacha!
Yes, and Zzz is followings HI3rd path but double the fomo with back to back double/quadruple banner.
You said it, one reason I didn't even try ZZZ is that there is still a 50/50 on the Weapon banner in it while in WuWa it's guaranteed. That was the proof that Hoyo is greedy for me, stingy as ever
Agree about the rest of hoyo title. Just not for zzz. Respectfully
@@adnanbillychrysostome7003its 75/25 isn't it? it's still sucks, PGR has the same system but they don't have 50/50 in their character so it's pretty balanced
I think the best testament to WUWA's combat being the best out of all the gatcha games are the Danjin Main's in it. Don't believe me search for their latest developments you'll see
0:32 GI improving? Uh...
Genshin 1.0 wasn't that good. It got better as it aged - story, characters, voice acting.
@@Stixxy 5.3 is a major step backwards.
Poor story telling, powercreep dependence, and double character banner release outside of free pull rewards.
Honestly, Genshin was like wine. Bad, but got slightly better over time. Then they just had to spill the wine on the floor with 5.X
Unfortunately, they did.. its showing on this lantern rite "story telling". Idk why they need to make it dramatic with "unalive"ing a char in this filler patch.
@@Stixxy they unfortunately went backwards
I wish I can get back into Wuwa. Being into HSR, ZZZ, and GFL2, while being exited for Ananta, Wuwa just gets further pushed in the backburner.
And 2.4 already lining up behind it. Honestly I have been enjoying WuWa and having played all the other 'gatcha' games there's just something about WuWa that keeps me coming back.
Mamma mia🗿
MAMMA MIA!
FIGURATI!
Levante
Day 1 Players who didnt quit like me feels proud seeing them improve every patch
Genshin can be considered as the one who set the standard of how gacha game should be
And when a game can't reach that standard people would call it a dead game right away
But wuwa raise that standard and showing of how gacha games could be
While genshin just stuck and even get worse because they too comfortable sitting at the top for a long time
Im so happy to have a gatcha game that I'm so invested in like wuwa, everyday when I'm at work I just cant wait to play it 😊, after 2.0 this game became a brand new game!
Wuwa saved my wallet. I admit I still don't have a proper DPS but I've enjoyed playing using only Havoc Rover as my main and I'm about to reach Union Lvl 60 soon! Wuwa's dynamic combat system has ruined other open world gacha for me. I'm still saving up for my next 5 star with only monthly subscriptions. My money's on Wuwa
The way I look at the gacha space now is, Hoyo paved the way for high quality gacha games to become possible and somehow a bit mainstream, but they got complacent due to years of monopoly specially after they developed a cult like following, it also didn't help that the first "competitor" ToF was a failure it only reinforced the notion that Genshin/Hoyo are infallible, it even came to a ridiculous point that HSR another hoyo game was considered a competitor lmao.
Now WuWa is diferrent, it shows what real competition is by literally doing a 1v3 against all hoyo games and hoyo cult members, it showed where ToF failed, and it is showing upcoming major gacha games how they should do it, and because of WuWa, hoyo games are now being seen for what they really are a bunch of overrated slop, ZZZ is still doing really good but I won't be putting my faith on it as it is still a hoyo game and give it 1+ year and it would most likely follow Genshin and HSR's path
Ananta,Endfield,NTE,Azur Promilia and other upcoming gacha games should set their sights at what WuWa is doing, Hoyo's time is coming to an end, sure their games won't EoS and would still earn millions monthly due to their devoted hoyo cult, but if players want top tier quality games where the devs do care about their game and give what their players want? WuWa is the golden standard now
>The way I look at the gacha space now is, Hoyo paved the way for high quality gacha games to become possible and somehow a bit mainstream, but they got complacent due to years of monopoly specially after they developed a cult like following, it also didn't help that the first "competitor" ToF was a failure it only reinforced the notion that Genshin/Hoyo are infallible, it even came to a ridiculous point that HSR another hoyo game was considered a competitor lmao.
Lmaooo. The offended asshole shut everything down and now thinks Wuwa will save the day, considering things aren't so rosy with her either
>Now WuWa is diferrent, it shows what real competition is by literally doing a 1v3 against all hoyo games and hoyo cult members, it showed where ToF failed, and it is showing upcoming major gacha games how they should do it, and because of WuWa, hoyo games are now being seen for what they really are a bunch of overrated slop, ZZZ is still doing really good but I won't be putting my faith on it as it is still a hoyo game and give it 1+ year and it would most likely follow Genshin and HSR's path
Yes. Exactly, because ZZZ is the same game of Hoyo, okay there ToF, but Wuwa also has problems, the only thing that distinguishes it is the beauty of the textures and (only) the main characters that have been changed to not show off, and they don't do much else
>Ananta,Endfield,NTE,Azur Promilia and other upcoming gacha games should set their sights at what WuWa is doing, Hoyo's time is coming to an end, sure their games won't EoS and would still earn millions monthly due to their devoted hoyo cult, but if players want top tier quality games where the devs do care about their game and give what their players want? WuWa is the golden standard now
Don't try to run ahead of the train, dummy. After all, everyone goes his own way so as not to run into each other's aprons. And need to wean yourself off the fanboyism.
@@TerTer-e9n wow I got the attention of a devout hoyo cult member I see
Yes. Exactly, because ZZZ is the same game of Hoyo, okay there ToF, but Wuwa also has problems, the only thing that distinguishes it is the beauty of the textures and (only) the main characters that have been changed to not show off, and *they don't do much else*
- show me Genshin do what WuWa did in Rinascita specially flying then we can talk, now you might have seizures trying to cope and provide something that Genshin did that is better(besides just being the first open world gacha game) but I'm pretty sure you just can't, flying alone would crap on any exploration features that genshin would try to sell you and your fellow cult members for $2k for that juicy few seconds of extended paywalled feature which future games would be *SO DUMB* to follow, I mean newer games would definitely not do what Genshin did where after they saw WuWa's grappling and wall run features for free they decided hmmm that looks nice, lets go sell it as Kinich and Xilonen and let's have Mavuika powercreep their features later on 🤡. Lastly feel free to skip directly to the "revenue" topic to save time if you can't think of anything else.
I will not play any upcoming gacha games if they cannot match up with the combat, graphics and character models of wuwa. If I don't see that in their game I will not play it. 💯
Hoyo had the opportunity to change the market and make gacha better than ever. But they didn't do or try it. Now Kuro is the leader here.
I personally don’t agree with this statement. I think that a lot of people are kind of skipping on the fact that Hoyo started the trend of combining the gacha system and an open word game, and it was Genshin who made gacha games “popular” in the western word. Arguably if it wasn’t for Genshin, games like Wuwa, Endfield, ToF and many other games wouldn’t have existed. Now, I know that Genshin is not a perfect game by any means and that Wuwa 2.0 is better than Genshin, but we can say that Genshin walked so that Wuwa could run. Anyway this is just my opinion. Also, I just wanted to say that I don’t understand where and why did this Hoyo hate start, like even people who don’t play gacha games hate Genshin.
@ChannelXL22 We hate Hoyo cause they treat people like you like shxt.
Look at you, defending them for a few primogem... And they will just pay you 1000 Mora instead. It's sad.
And honestly, I don't think Genshin would be necessary for the gacha to explode like it did. People already played Arknights, FGO, GBF, Azur Lane, Honkai Impact... What helped Genshin, Vtubers and lot of other things... Was the Corona crisis.
@@nonenoninomae Look, I started playing gacha games way before Genshin, games like Arknights, Fire Emblem heroes and many others, but none of these had as much success and attention as Genshin, at least in the US and Europe. The clear example of this success is all the articles that came out at the time about how Genshin broke records in revenue and player base.
Also, I am not doing this for primos or what, is just that it is ok to criticise Hoyo for what it does badly (like not listening to the players), something that I do very often, but it is also correct to praise Hoyo when it needs to, like that it modernised and made gacha games popular and relevant.
@@nonenoninomae Anyways, thank you for answering my question about why people hate Hoyo, and I find that it is a reasonable reason
@ChannelXL22 they maybe introducing new things in gacha game back then, but sadly they became worst over time wether in game quality development or how they treat the fans.
when other developers step up their game despite being smaller game company, creating better quality game and treating their players better hoyo still stuck with their same treatment for their game and players which makes lot of people dissapointed.
Especially with how low the effort they put in game's designs considering being a multi billion game company who is famous for creating high quality gacha game back then.
2.0 is great. But that Encore stuff was still my favorite story stuff so far. It was just interesting and memorable. Maybe not the fighting but the actual plot.
your footage looks S+++ fking tier holy i was already in love with wuwa but your footage makes it look like studio ghibli tell your graphics card i
yep hongkai impact use to laugh at pgr,now karma is real after long years.kuro save not just 1 game whole major gacha genre games.
The fact that i got most of my banners for free and the money i spent only went to the weapon and didnt spend that much just go get all of their weapon is a W for wuwa😊😊
If one day, gacha is outlawed by the US, i would GLADLY buy WuWa
Great game
I definitely fall into the camp of "I don't care about the drama". I unfollowed Saintontas because it's his mission in life to cover the drama full time now. That's not what I'm here for. I'd rather follow someone like frenchtutor who's only goal is to help me get better at the game. I don't have time or energy in my life to worry about what someone else thinks about a game I like.
My goal is to just talk about what I like (NIKKE/PGR/WuWa/Promilia/Ananta, etc.,) showcase upcoming games (my monthly Gacha releasing in x month videos,) talk about cool shit happening in them (the weekly Gacha recap series,) and enjoy my time making content while avoiding drama. No shade at people covering drama though - we all like different things, and that's perfectly okay!
@@Stixxy I agree. You get a lot of your own hate thrown your way because you don't pick a side. It's why I still watch you. No drama. No hate. Just covering it as you see it and I'm down for that. The dancing, not so much lol. But that's what makes it fun for you, so keep doing you man. I appreciate it.
Honestly the only cc content that I like and pay attention to is Marco. He caught my attention when analyzing and exploring wuwa not to mention he takes time to listen to the music and surroundings I'm really happy that he mentioned Queen of the Reference when fighting Lorelei.
Also really like JP vtuber playing wuwa they get so immersive when playing it instead of finding faults and drama
@@Stixxy Can bro just release his NO UI Holofights video already? Come one we're waiting
I'm a day 1 player its good to see that i witnessed WuWa improved a lot with the short amount of time, for me 2.0 is so good 10, but-1 for,
-respawn of overlord bosses, like take 2mins to respawn make them atleast 1min
-increase to 4 or 5 the limit of weekly bosses
-more echo exp
like I have 3k tuners and 200+ echo exp, that's all, goodluck grinding echoes and more crits on substats rovers😂😊
Man, the thing is, Genshin didn't get better XD. HYO is ridiculous.
I don't think companies care that much ab player loyalty they just want ur wallet
exactly my point, combat/model/ over all visual wuwa spoiled me on it... why do genshin when theres wuwa, same for ToA i saw the models and said i like it, but over world visual and combat its like... "no" i didnt wanna do that when i had wuwa, and the devs are seeminly legit genuine in care about maintaining there player base, genshin... i didnt see that lol.... they look like they dont give a shit lol, its like pay me money or just f off.
9:07… Bro just activated Shorekeeper’s ult on a single hocus pocus 😭
Remembering that... The WuWa Weapon Banner is guaranteed SINCE launch.
While it was necessary to ''buff'' the Genshin Weapon Banner TWICE, because of HOW PREDATORY IT WAS.
And the fact that both banners have the need from 10 less pulls that GI too.
Man... How can still have people excusing all this?
I kept trying to play Genshin, but the combat feels so bad to me. WuWa combat literally killed it in combat. It feels so good, smooth, actually countering attacks and dodges to. I find myself trying to dodge attacks in Genshin, then be like oh crap I can't. It feels bad.
Guaranteed weapon banner was a good decision
Meanwhile Genshin is still on top with over 99 million in mobile revenies🤣🤣🤣
Have Carlotta, her weapon and Roccia c1 just as f2p.
Had to spend money on Mualani at Natlan (new region start) coz wasn't enough xd.
Revenue behind being predatory its not a good thing to be proud lmaaaaaao😂
Sadly I don't have extra time to play WuWa as my daily rotation even though I did play it for awhile on the first month iirc. Worst, I 'sacrificed' some games because of work.. welp... Gonna make that money for my gacha addiction 😂
Anyways~ great content as usual, Papa Stix
My Ananta hype has disappeared since Wuwa 2.0. Unreal > Unity.
80 hard pity, guaranteed limited weapon banner, QoL isnt locked behind limited characters, lack of elemental reaction mechanics means u wont have to pull for a whole team and can beat the game w one copy of a character. Theres so many points which make this game so good. shame on that multimillion predatory studio
7:24 Being less predatory almost always makes people spend more. This is true in both Wuthering and Zenless' case.
lmaaaooooo
Idk if this is only me but there's Galaxy store voucher with 30% Off purchase for Wuwa Galaxy store version right now.
The last straw that made me lose all hope in genshin is the 3 pull that they give on their aniversary..its just a massive slap in the face for the player that have been loyal to them for 3yrs..Wuwa feels like an oasis in the desert when they came.
this... changes... EVERYTHING.
We can only hope this success doesn't go to Kuro's head and get greedy and lazy. That's what I'm afraid of
welp... i play gi, hsr, ww, tof... tof is ded, gi and hsr shuld either fix or entirely delete english va. ww is d perfect 1 so far.
Get ready for 2.1
So stuck on WUWA at this point of time. Can't deny it has set a benchmark for all gacha games. It not only has good combat, narative and voice acting but the cut scenes are just as immersive.
I'm a little bit behind on the game, but i just finished the shorekeeper story and man..the ending cut scene when we saved her and got her back was so touching and it hits the feels.
I want to play this game so bad.
no wonder wuwa starts with a w, bc it's a W.
@Stixxy even Chixia 😂 Is teasing them Chixia : sucks to be you 😂
Dang, i kinda regret that i stooped playing wuwa in 1.1, but back then the quality was pretty bad compared to Genshin. Glad i came back at the *start* of 2.0
Being a day one player in Genshin, i can't just give up on it, less time in it sure. ZZZ characters are pretty nice, but they start to exaggerate with character *physics*
7:24 I know you're really anti the estimate sites, but there's good evidence that WuWa earned more than Genshin and by a pretty good margin because of what all the available data shows. And every analysis I've done (all of 2024) suggests overwhelmingly that players spend more the more generous, or at least less predatory, the game is.
Companies not only get a better reputation, like you're saying, but they make more revenue.
I've done a few videos summarizing what I'm talking about here, but the bottom line is that the reason the Sensor Tower reports seemed worse for WuWa and Zenless is because they are only mobile revenue, those games' mobile audiences are REALLY small compared to Genshin and HSR (WuWa has more YT subscribers than active players on mobile) and yet they still pull numbers between $11m and $50m from such tiny audiences.
Simply put players spend a ton even on the worst platform for these games (mobile). It's likely they spend similarly or more on the best platforms and that the audiences are much larger on those platforms leading to more overall revenue. (Even if the Genshin overall audience size is 7 times the size of WuWa, at the rate WuWa players spend on mobile, WuWa would have made more than 3 times the revenue Genshin did overall in 2024. It's actually crazy how much WuWa players are spending on average, or it's at least crazy how stingy Genshin players are, lol)
I just really want to change the narrative that being less predatory is a sacrifice because it does not appear to be true at all, which is the best-case scenario for fans of any of these games, including Genshin.
Kuro actually gets that if they make their game more friendly and fun, that they’ll be able to earn money because people will be more willing to spend on their game since it’s a quality product with a less aggressive monetization system than other Gachas, meaning that people will spend more over time rather than just spending all at once and then holding off from doing it again cause they were bled dry for one character. By doing that they earn more naturally.
The music in wuwa just hits different ❤
I really hope that ananta, nte, wang yue, endfield will (not kill genshin) but overshadowed it. And i feel ananta will probably do that because it doesn’t look or feel like a “genshin copy” only character designs looked somewhat similar. I dont want it to kill genshin but make it so that the devs will actually try harder and innovate for once instead of just recycling event stuff and adding more quality of life updates.
it hasn't change anything tho, every time makes ANY "positive" change its because the "genshin killer" make hoyo scared apparently
its a huge amount of cope, when ToF released i called it, i said it would be mostly dead in 6 months, people called me crazy, boot licker and all the names that usually fly around, when WuWa released i said the same, and i am proven correct every month, just check the twitch tracker, nobody cares about the game, and for some reason the same group of people that say that revenue projections are fake, they celebrate when WuWa number goes up and act as if that proves anything LOL, it tells you a lot when WuWa a new game that does "everything correct" and its the "hero" of the story is still crushed by genshin the villain and "terrible game" not to mention now 5 years old
And it keeps getting better, Gacha gaming is in such a good state rn for players if you don't have unnecessary hate towards others Gachas
I've been saying/commenting it across my socials; Wuthering Waves is the new Benchmark for gacha MMO.
It had better be niche, for the business is very chaotic
your game looks so good, you using any shaders or something?
It's the ultrawide C I N E M A T I C effect
How is your wuwa gameplay look so good. I play max settings, or is it a new area? Idk didn't play since launch 😂
we promise we deliver!! also!!!!!!!! even if we don't promise, we r still gonna deliver
this is the moto of kuro the goat
snowbreak gacha still the best
people can choose 50/50 or 100
The devision that looks after HSR and ZZZ have flaws, but both are overall better than the Genshin division
I see you added new sexy dancing....we are not worthy
I started right before Jinshi banner and until today I lost every 50/50... I only have Jinshi, Changli and Shorekeeper on my account... also Jinshi weapon and I am f2p btw.
This is why WuWa has 2 Ws.
*gigachad theme kicks in*
Now speak it with me:"Kudos to Kuros"...
PGR and WUWA is Korogames why would we argue about whos better in combat?. BTW, if Hoyo did listen to it players. the would be very peak. remember Black Desert Online a 10 year game. but the mechanics keeps improving making its still the one of the best fun combat mmorpg.
Zzz did the story and dialogue justice you CAN'T skip dialogue because it's making you interested in story
ooooh im loving the undertone Jabs in the throat to genshin impact 🤣 ICONIC
by ending the potato era they sure do set the standards to a higher bar .
if they removed the 50/50 system then it's without a doubt the "best gacha game ever".
True but sadly they can't as they simply would not make enough money to support the games development then as much as I wish for 100% char banner I want the game to make enough to keep developing it
Why? That made Genshin rich during covid. Staff of Homeless ring a bell?
@@MrBentalton777 Oh they could, but it's more like the pity is "160" rn and more realistically about "140" due to the soft cap that raises the rate astronomically. The chance to get the unit halfway through is basically to offset the really low base pull rate. Maybe the 2nd reruns onward could have some special mechanics to make getting older chars easier.
@@rybek7081 if they increased the pity that would be worse for f2p i prefer the system of 50/50 for open world over a higher pity as atleast a lower pity with a 50/50 gives a good chance of getting the limited char rather than having insanely low chance until 140-160 or higher as some that have a guarentee have a 300 pity. as if it still results in the same amount of pulls on average then it would be meaningless.
True but sadly they can't as they simply would not make enough money to support the games development then as much as I wish for 100% char banner I want the game to make enough to keep developing it
wuwa 2.0 is like one of, if not the best open world game of 2024. its an AAA level
Lmaooo. For now, but business is such a thing, you never know what else it might demand.
it has also greatest devs who stops wuwa community from being toxic like a father ihope they keep doing it to us wuwa community sir solon is like father figure to its playerbase and his dev teams to guide his players to the right and less toxic path now that's a gaming company you will like overtime ❤ someone complains about their skin being expensive but its understandable for being expensive becuz they only get revenues true character skins period they not forcing you to pay for their gacha and most generous part they give u good pulls and their very generous on their anniverssaries of their games to the extent 😂 you will feel like a spoiled child
The only thing I really HATE about WuWa is the start of the game...
Theres a TON of new words with dumped to the player without context and expects the player to understand it.
Oh.... and the musical terminologies used... many of them should have been interchanged. And since they used those music teeminologies, I wished they used the "music" theme more otger than the soundwaves symbols and naming theme.
Speaking of music.... I played Punishing Grey Raven and realized.... music in WuWa in the early part and in the openworld is lack luster.
WuWa is a great game, but Wuwa isn't perfect too, like Stix mentioned.
While Hoyo fans have a lot of egoistic "my game is perfect" players in them, seems there are in WuWa too.
I don't think anyone thinks ww is a perfect game we just think it's better than the competition by alot
I don't think anyone thinks ww is a perfect game we just think it's better than the competition by alot
lol
ngl i bought jinshi skin jst foir the support so muvh high quality
When it comes to the combat I think PGR and WUWAS combat are pretty much equal cause the fighting feels better in PGR but you can jump in WUWA
one more thing is the new flying thing in wuwa is very satisfying despite it has limited time usage due to stamina..in GI however Natlan character traversing skill isnt satisfying at all its lame just made it not consume nightsoul point and phlogiston bar for exploration only
Kuro Games have learned two simple, but wery important things - Don't be greedy and do what gamers hope you do.
Lol. That's for now, when you need even more money it might be different, and yes, holograms and battle events aren't as friendly.
Personally, I was f2p in PGR, ZZZ, HSR, but with Wuwa I always pay for a subscription and channel and sometimes some bundles and on the Camellya patch I paid ~125$... I mean... Less predatory systems doesn't mean less profit for the company. But what it definitely means - it makes cheaper buy options more desirable for a player. And excessive profit could be made via good character design. But Kuro did better: 2.0 is a masterpiece. No jokes: story and locations are better than in Dragon Age Veilguard... I was expecting that kind of effort in DAV, but got it in the"mere gacha game" 0_0. Thanks to Kuro
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And how'd you pay for it, graffodropper?
@@TerTer-e9n ? What do you mean? What is graffodropper?
I'm only playing wuwa. Hoyo is in the past, they sucked enough money and now new gachas are coming they are "trying harder".
Nah, I can't wait for the gachas like Endfield, azur and Ananta.
kek
and Stix, when he agreed to promote the game, he made an agreement with kuro that he will not hold back if there's anything that he feels lacking or bad about the game, so i believe him when he says it's good or bad game/patch regardless if it's wuwa or other games
Waiting for black beacon to drop
Idk I disagree with action better than PGR. That is just my opinion, not trying to start argument.😊
No opinion is wrong! We all like different things!!
@Stixxy I play everything except tof and my opinion all gacha game can be enjoyed
did you use nvidia filter? can you share the preset?
Only gacha I play that I pull on a weapon banner knowing I will get it.
That alone is a win as I don't mind spending to get them if I want them.
Win win wuwa
lmaaaooooooo
yea its a very bold move by kuro!
Yeah also you get less burnout from playing the game since there's no pressure off you pulling from the banner.
Waiting for Ananta 😁
Hell yeahhhhhh!
@@Stixxy wwoooooohhh
Hell yeahhhhhh!
@@Stixxy wwoooooohhh
Tbh, both ZZZ and wuwa have elevated gacha gaming level, they have improved massively since their launch, both games and both of my favorite nowadays.
because of wuwa im really excited on the upcoming gachas because I know that Wuwa sets the stage and those gacha need tobe at least as good or better than wuwa!
@Stixxy im most excited for endfield, azur promilia, DNA and Ananta
Yeeeee Genshin has improved in becoming more predatory and shitting on their fans more with each passing year.
Well,gacha system in PGR is still better with no 50/50 on chars' debut banner,so they are guaranteed,and 70/30 on reruns...
Even though the internet gacha wars are in full swing, nobody can deny the improvements made in WuWa and in ZZZ. Quite literally the only two gachas in my rotation at the moment.
Where they lacked, they improved substantially.
Both are remarkably different and improved, and my hands are cramping from all the farming for pulls I've been doing.
Yup, same here! Love WuWa and ZZZ, both improved a lot since they launched and both are different but amazing games!
You should add punishing gray raven to your rotation too., They having a pretty big event right now with lots of freebies for new players.
kek
Yup, same here! Love WuWa and ZZZ, both improved a lot since they launched and both are different but amazing games!
You should add punishing gray raven to your rotation too., They having a pretty big event right now with lots of freebies for new players.