Thank you Jonny for this timely video as I was recently wondering about diatonic flutes, the fingering pattern and possible advantages. Very helpful, thanks again. I happen to have two flutes from Rick Svitzer, both are 7 hole standard pentatonic minor flutes (F# and G) with thumb holes that gets 4 notes above the octave note clearly in tune without half holing. They are my favorite go to flutes when I am playing a song with many notes in the upper register. Rick is a master flute maker and it is sad to hear he is retiring from flute making. His skill at flute making will be greatly missed in the flute community. I wish him well.
I hear you, Frank. Always a sad day when a great flute maker goes out of commission. I have some of these flutes in stock, so perhaps this is a chance to get onto that diatonic thing! www.jonnylipfordmusic.com/collections/native-american-style-flutes/products/rain-spirit-diatonic.
Hi Jonny, I've been playing the diatonic scale on my pentitonic flutes for a long time now. I've converted so many Celtic tunes to N.A.F. tabs I can do the conversion in my head. The Zuni Sunset Song can easily be played on a tin whistle, also Joseph Fire Crow's song, Ne-me'hotatse on his Red Beads album is in the diatonic scale. These flutes would be very helpful indeed. Thanks for the review. Until next time
Hi J, do you think that the ‘ limited’ range of the native flute was due to its origins of as an ‘ outdoors’ instrument?this was never meant to be a ‘ western’ 🪈
The limited range of this instrument is definitely due to its design, originating in the North American Indigenous cultures. It has since been modernized in tuning while still trying to stay close to its roots.
I don’t think anything was put out there to insult anyone. However, I feel similar perhaps a better label for this type of flute would be a World Flute or Irish Flute? If this flute was in a low D I would be interested in it.
@@crystalr7685 Well, The insult all started around the 80"s, with the minor pentatonic scale being designated to our flutes, then someone decided to add an extra hole/note that's not in that scale, (you know, the hole you always keep covered) Guess the extra hole makes it not tuned and there for somehow makes it native, I guess we're idiots and would add bad notes on purpose, But, It's all good, if it's not grandfather tuned, it's really not a native american flute. And that is why they use the term "Native American Style Flute" and for other legal reasons can't sell it as a "true native american flute" Sorry for the rant.
Actually, the majority of Indigenous flutes were closely tuned to a major scale. Look up the work that the late Kevin Locke was pursuing before his passing. Native American flutes are mostly represented as 5 or 6 hole minor pentatonic flutes. What I am presenting here is a major diatonic tuned flute made in the style (two-duct design) of the Native flute. I don't post content like this to insult anyone, in fact, quite the opposite... To bring awareness to this instrument.
I’m a hobbyist maker and player of NASF flutes and this answers a lot of questions. Major and minor
Excellent. Glad I could help.
Yes, awesome voices on those. Someday I hope to have one. Thanks for sharing Jonny 🙏
Very nice! nice!
Thanks for the visit!
i love irish whistle, great as you said for whistle players to transfer their skills to native flute, awesome video
Yes! Thank you!
Thank you Jonny for this timely video as I was recently wondering about diatonic flutes, the fingering pattern and possible advantages. Very helpful, thanks again. I happen to have two flutes from Rick Svitzer, both are 7 hole standard pentatonic minor flutes (F# and G) with thumb holes that gets 4 notes above the octave note clearly in tune without half holing. They are my favorite go to flutes when I am playing a song with many notes in the upper register. Rick is a master flute maker and it is sad to hear he is retiring from flute making. His skill at flute making will be greatly missed in the flute community. I wish him well.
I hear you, Frank. Always a sad day when a great flute maker goes out of commission. I have some of these flutes in stock, so perhaps this is a chance to get onto that diatonic thing! www.jonnylipfordmusic.com/collections/native-american-style-flutes/products/rain-spirit-diatonic.
@@JonnyLipford, tell me, is the fingering pattern for the notes the same on the diatonic flute as it is on the standard pentatonic flute?
Hi Jonny, I've been playing the diatonic scale on my pentitonic flutes for a long time now. I've converted so many Celtic tunes to N.A.F. tabs I can do the conversion in my head. The Zuni Sunset Song can easily be played on a tin whistle, also Joseph Fire Crow's song, Ne-me'hotatse on his Red Beads album is in the diatonic scale. These flutes would be very helpful indeed. Thanks for the review.
Until next time
That's pretty sweet!
I think so too!
Hi J, do you think that the ‘ limited’ range of the native flute was due to its origins of as an ‘ outdoors’ instrument?this was never meant to be a ‘ western’ 🪈
The limited range of this instrument is definitely due to its design, originating in the North American Indigenous cultures. It has since been modernized in tuning while still trying to stay close to its roots.
😀👍🎶🎵🎶
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐❤
You gota get over to Brendan Ackers, guitar and flute🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂flute and lute🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
How do you make a algorithms flute lol jk
How is that a native flute? The modern 6 hole version was a big enough insult to us, just buy a recorder
I don’t think anything was put out there to insult anyone.
However, I feel similar perhaps a better label for this type of flute would be a World Flute or Irish Flute?
If this flute was in a low D I would be interested in it.
@@crystalr7685 Well, The insult all started around the 80"s, with the minor pentatonic scale being designated to our flutes, then someone decided to add an extra hole/note that's not in that scale, (you know, the hole you always keep covered) Guess the extra hole makes it not tuned and there for somehow makes it native, I guess we're idiots and would add bad notes on purpose, But, It's all good, if it's not grandfather tuned, it's really not a native american flute. And that is why they use the term "Native American Style Flute" and for other legal reasons can't sell it as a "true native american flute" Sorry for the rant.
@@capnspicy5565 that makes sense and gives me context thanks for sharing your views and experience.
@@crystalr7685 You're Welcome, 🪶
Actually, the majority of Indigenous flutes were closely tuned to a major scale. Look up the work that the late Kevin Locke was pursuing before his passing. Native American flutes are mostly represented as 5 or 6 hole minor pentatonic flutes.
What I am presenting here is a major diatonic tuned flute made in the style (two-duct design) of the Native flute. I don't post content like this to insult anyone, in fact, quite the opposite... To bring awareness to this instrument.