Haha if only it were that simple! Also, I had a 78 KO Psylocke game and basically swap to her whenever I get tilted and just win the match. But she definitely needs her burst damage nerfed!
I do agree Lunas ult lasts too long and they should shorten it but I don’t think they should nerf the healing output that’s what a support ult is for you save it for a big damage ult or the ult feels useless.
I think the healing output is fine but yeah it lasts too long (12 seconds) and she can charge it quite quickly. So every second fight it's up and can just flat out win a fight!
@@Sylvus66 yeah I agree lunas ult is dummy long rn I just hope they don’t nerf the healing side then it feels like lucio ult where u can’t really counter ults as much with it
No he doesn’t. He’s fine as a duelist. As a suggestion, they could reduce the cd of his damage mitigation ability by 2 sec and give him an extra charge of claw dash while slightly increasing its cooldown by 2 seconds or have feral charge reset on elimination (final hits and assists). There are plenty of tanks they could add from the Marvel Universe before they start reworking characters.
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I hope Wolverine gets a buff in the future but I have found effectiveness with Wolverine specifically. He can tackle tanks into real bad positions and him with a mantis boosting him and some ranged dps to help burn the tank… it can work. I really want to see the stats at all the different levels of play to see the whole picture.
Wolverine is definitely in the Tank Buster role currently. He does % of MAX HP damage, which obviously favours focusing tanks. I would need to test it but I wonder what his TTK is on a tank compared to Punisher shooting the tank in the chest, or Hela etc. Wolverine has to put himself in great danger, he's a simple Peni web or a Luna freeze away from being dead easily. Love the character, I think he just needs a little bit of tuning and help
Nice video with good analysis , I was rank 1 a few days ago playing pretty much only strange since he is by far the best tank right now but hanging around top 20 at the moment but most of the video is correct the top end of the dps role is too strong at the moment leading to a lack of variety and the tanks and healers basically have to be picked around them for the most part, also for wolverine try and watch some games with healis in them he also streams if he is on private but whenever I get him on my team on wolverine I know I won the game he has a super interesting playstyle with it which could potentially fall off later when people have more experience but at the moment it’s quite effective into tanks, also in regards to tank variety strange is for sure too strong compared to the others however they have a bit of a balance nightmare where the dps are too strong and games that strange is banned in just become dps player 1 vs 1s due to the lack of ability to block damage from the tank pov I don’t necessarily think strange needs a nerf maybe to his damage but the other tanks probably need a buff to be honest to make them more appealing to play and bring impact since there isn’t really a reason to not play strange + mag groot or hulk at the moment as these characters are the only real ones that bring impact mag has an unbreakable shield groot walls can bring a lot of value around hooks and just in general and then hulk can buff strange dps to an even higher level outside of those 3 most tanks just don’t do enough to be worth picking at the top top level. Anyway that was a yap but interested to see your future content thanks for covering stuff like this for the player base
Yo thanks for the long comment! Appreciate you writing all of that. I agree that finding a solution to Vanguards and just making them more desired to play is important but difficult. People enjoy speed and mobility and flashiness and a lot of the duelists clearly have it. I hope with some balance changes and some new Vanguards and stuff that the role will become more used. High ranks like yourself know what is required, low ranks just sorta play what they want and pray it works lol Thanks again for your input!
I'd love to see a hulk buff personally. I just want his jump to charge slightly quicker, maybe %5 . Everything else feels really good but if i could have one more thing it would be either a second clap charge or .5-1 second cooldown reduction
Hela is insane but Hawkeye is something else, he melts tanks solo. Also, pointing and clicking should still bring value, not everyone can aim, consistently. I don’t know what to do about characters that rely solely on aim. If you undertune their damage, they are effectively useless, but if you leave it as is, they dominate the meta, no questions asked.
Well said. It's a tricky problem. I feel like an extreme change would be to lower the damage but make the projectile hitbox bigger. Basically makes it easier to hit (to help the people with worse aim) but doesn't reward high skill players as much because the damage is lower and they would've hit the target anyway. Who knows. It will be interesting to see how this develops
@ I think if someone has bad aim, they should be less effective at aim based characters. If they patch the effectiveness of mechanical skill out of the game, they will just make all the same mistakes as overwatch.
I agree. They could use a bit more spice. When playing a Vanguard it mostly feels good fighting other Vanguards, but other stuff not so much. I hope we have some new ones released soon
I like Groot for his vine whip. I can use his grenade, then a couple vine whips on a Spidey or magik for a KO. Helps a lot with divers on the backline.
So do you think when we get out of season 0 and characters like Hela and Hawkeye lose their flat damage buff, that it will open more room for other characters, or just dps all takes the same dip and they remain as dominate as they are now?
I think the seasonal buffs are a headache. Ill be discussing it in a patch note video. Because you're right, maybe after season is over they are easier to deal with, maybe something else gets busted instead. I prefer the balance to have more stability and not wildly change every 3 months but we will see how they handle that. It's going to change even sooner with Season 0 being a short one. Really appreciate your comment it's a thoughtful take!
At range he isn't as bad for sure. When it gets a little bit closer quarters, depending on the map, he can get scary. The guy has a lot of tools to use!
@Sylvus66 I know he is good I use him I just think your a dumbass if someone bans him because the man has to dump his entire kit to kill 1 dualist who may or may not just glitch out of the combo and live.
Certain maps or certain spots in maps she is very strong. Obviously she prefers closer quarters to utilize mines and her nest, and the fact she has no self defense in the way of a shield. I personally feel like she's better suited as a second body up front and don't like tanking alone with her, but honestly feel like she's strong overall. If dive becomes more prominent (like if they nerf the ranged duelists) then Peni gets even better since she's so strong vs dive. I think you can go far with Peni, definitely!
Most of the "weak" characters are simply brawl comp characters. I think we just havent really tried/figured out a brawl comp team yet that will unlock thier potential. It will be interesting seeing this unfold in the next month or so
Luna ultimate duration reduced by 4 seconds, Luna and mantis ultimate charge increased by 15%, hela ultimate duration reduced by 2 seconds, hela health reduced by 25.
I've got some similar changes on my list! The Luna Mantis ults for sure are on there. A flat reduction in many base damages as well. I love simple and straight to the point comments like this thanks!
I have potato aim, but I pick up Hela and just dominate lobbies. I actually really love the hero (fell in love with her bc I love Cate Blanchett and her portrayal of Hela), but heroes shouldn't be that oppressive by sitting on the opposite side of the map with such return of value for such little input. Psylocke may be oppressive at times, but she requires a lot to get that value. You have to get into a backline and find your opportunity and you can have your cds forced out. Compared to Hela, she's much more fair, but her combo is maybe a tad bit too much. But if you nerf her combo it will be taken over by Iron Fist or Punisher shotgun. And tbh, part of the charm of rivals for me is that you can play a duelist and find an assassination much more easily than OW (bc OW has made it so stupidly hard to find assassinations), so I actually hope they don't nerf Psylocke or anyone except Hela. Also Hawkeye, I hated Hanzo forever in OW, I don't like, and will never like Hawkeye. Dumpster the character I don't care.
Hey man I’ve been really enjoying the game and I enjoy your recent videos as well. What are your thoughts on Wolverine getting the doomfist treatment with a tank rework? I think his abilities and his displacement could be very valuable for a vanguard, and more fitting to his character as being hard to kill
Thanks for your kind comment! I agree that if there was a candidate to be moved to Vanguard it would be him. I would've bet money he was a Vanguard to begin with, guess I would've lost. I think it makes total sense for the character and the current basis of his kit. I do believe Storm should be reworked to a shielding strategist as well. I'm not sure where the devs stand on reworks in general, it's likely too early but we will see! Love your comment thanks dude
Damage needs a major nerf and so does healing. If you’re a vanguard against a Hawkeye and Hella it’s so frustrating, especially if they are damage boosted by mantis. You literally just die in 2 seconds flat, unless you play strange. Then they need to nerf the click a button immortality abilities. Life link. Luna/mantis ult. Loki immortality. These abilities are completely broken. Vanguard is by far the worst role in the game with very little play making potential due to how oppressive these jacked up stat outputs are.
If they don't nerf Luna's ult duration they could reduce her ult charge rate. Last night I had 3 people on top of me and my buddy went from 3% ult to 71% charge in 13 seconds at the start of the match. Her shift piercing healing/damage is just too good for the amount of value it generates. If they made it take longer to gen her ult then when to use her ult becomes a more critical decision.
100% agree. I would do both to be honest. Nerf her ult duration from 12 seconds to 9, increase her ult energy required by like 20%. It's too persistent, it lasts too long, it requires little skill, it can hardly be outplayed. Great comment!
@@Sylvus66 10 seconds would probably be fine. I like the 20% ult charge increase with it. The risk with overnerfing Luna's ult is that she would end up feeling unplayable with a weak team. At least with Mantis you can still shoot and use skills where as Luna does nothing herself during her ult.
Great question. I haven't spoken about team ups yet really, and to be honest I like some of the teamup abilities but dislike what they do for balancing. I think I need more time to really digest it and to see what they do when Season 0 ends and the seasonal buffs change. Appreciate your question though!
W video, I also don't like to play meta heroes. Game just make me to one trick Hela. You wanna win? You have to play Hela. One day they will make Wolverine great again. 😎
Do you think a ranked solo climb is possible for an average player? Or even if it is, probably going to be so much pain, better to make some friends. lol
It is possible. Just might be frustrating on certain heroes. Strategists are a bit at the mercy of others decision making, even if you are superb at it. You play enough, you'll move up, and hopefully can get to a rank where people understand what is happening around them better!
Maybe I'll go for it and see where I get lol. Ranked in the CBT was so much pain, it felt like you had little individual control over the win, so rank was very up and down. I'd hoped that Silver would even out a little, but it didn't. Sounds like season 0 is still wild. I don't usually play ranked in any game, so don't know what's normal lol.
Dps is your best bet for solo climbing tanks are dependent on Heals and team and strategist is dependent on tanks and dps but some dps can basically solo carry
I think it’s too early to suggest nerfs for any characters except Héla, & even then I would just nerf the health she gets from her ult or something, she basically has 3 lives when it’s charged. In this early stage they should just buff the weaker characters & see if that balances things out
Yeah it's hard to say. They'd be buffing a lot and it might be easier to nerf a few. Definitely agree with Hela having so many lives, her kit is stacked
As a Hela main i absolutely agree with you, buffs before nerfs As for hela though I think we can go about it in 2 ways either make it always a 3 HS kill (only 2 hit with team up) instead of a 2 hit kill or really nerf her range so she can only 2 hit kill fairly close, so she has to really work for her kills Also nerf the ult health cause there's basically no counterplay right now
I think Peni is just more situation than some of the other tanks. A good Peni on the right map (close quarters) and that has some other Vanguard with her is a real threat. She has a lot of great tools, her right click is insane against dive etc. She is great just needs to be in the right spot to shine. Right now she just cant hit many right clicks because Dr. Strange shields and Magento shields are in front of her face all game.
I feel sorry for people who play this game to win, instead of playing for fun. Imagine you love Wolverine, because you are an actual Marvel comic fan. However, because you are obsessed with winning, you never use him. Sad.
Yeah I'm not too keen on just playing to win (I'd rather have close tight down to the wire matches). I like being pushed as a player. And I've played a lot of Wolverine so far. It just does become tiring playing something iconic and being insta KOed because some numbers are tuned too high. I'm confident balance will improve and Wolverine will have a better spot to shine
Mixed on this cause I agree that playing JUST to win sucks, and being on the losing side with someone like that is just draining. But in comp I have sacrificed my love of playing Spider-Man and moon knight to play vanguard, and I think I had a way more fun time having a good team comp and winning then playing my favorite characters and getting steamrolled and losing. How ever in quick play literally who cares imo play anyone you want no matter the team comp
Not sure if their official stance. I think it will depend of course. If you can nerf 5 heroes instead of buffing 20 others that might be easier to execute haha
I cant wait till this game gets updates, between balance changes and new characters, i think every hero is gonna be able to fill a niche job in a certain comp, this game is so janky and fun lol
At the end of the day it has gotta be fun and it definitely is. The "least fun" part of it is getting insta KOed by a random Hawkeye arrow that missed the Vanguard in front and hit me behind haha
Im excited but also worried about the patch notes. If they choose to buff the entire cast and not nerf the 8 or so heros that are op, its going to quickly become toxic and deny new players. I hope they give universal nerfs to healers, maybe something like everytime X character is healed, it reduces their next heal by 30 (stackint up to 90) until 5 seconds pass from the last heal. At the current state, not playing the top tier dps just feels bad because 2-3 healers can heal all damage on a unit instantly, so you need the burst dps. Strange having an 850 large shield is too op considering that characters like venom only get a comparable sheild on them at extremely low hp. A lot of ults also need buffed. You have team wipes like jeff, iron man, wanda, Strange, hela, punisher, and more, but some character ults just suck. Venom just gets another sheild, which he doesnt need or want considering he has a shield skill thatll give more, and hes designed as a dive character, making it a far better choice to have a single target or large damage ult that can kill in exchange for some of his hp, which would combo better with his skills. I guess a way that they could go about nerfing without nerfs is by giving some of the less chosen heros heros a debuff on their attacks that reduces healing received. If you cant tell, i like venom, so i may be baised.
Nerfing healing output is a no because you can’t punish good healers when they will have to solo heal at times in QP or low-rank which is where the majority of players will always be.
Hela and Hawkeye are only up so high because of their seasonal buffs. They get a 20% DMG boost and this is NOT a team up buff. They just have this all the time even without the team up. it's called a seasonal buff so I assume when the season ends these buffs will be gone and hela won't do as much DMG anymore.
@podimegwu12 ya I'm not sure. I think it's to promote the core team up characters. You'll notice every main character for a team up has a seasonal buffs. They promote the main character so you have characters to build off of. Team ups may change per season too. Might not change until after season one. This is technically season 0
Yup the Seasonal Buffs really throw the balance out of wack. Perhaps Hela and Hawkeye are fine next season, it's really going to be hard to determine where a lot of things actually stand. I really like your comment, I definitely shouldve spoken on the Seasonal buffs more. Ill learn for next time!
Meta update is ranked is the only game mode. Quickplay has far too many hidden AI teammates and opponents. It’s frustrating to queue and realize you’re playing with and against bots. Waste of 15-20 minutes waiting for two rounds to play out before you can queue again.
We need better tanks, most tanks are just boring, thou i want gambit who would be a dps to be added, We need maybe Colossus as a tank, idk kinda hard, alot of characters that could be ranks. I dont find interesting.
I hope they find a way to make Colossus work. He's my #2 most wanted behind Nightcrawler. Juggernaut is another Vanguard option I could see working with charge abilities. Perhaps Dr Doom himself?
@Sylvus66 my biggest issue is that none of the playerstyle of tanks or characters makes me want to play tank, so far I'm playing psylocke magik and Loki and mantis People tell me oh you need to play tank but their just zzzzzz. Like In over watch I played Reinhardt diva, but here I play magneto and that's kinda it, and I'm not thrilled about it either
Buff Scarlet, Squirrel girl, storm, captain america. Then nerf Hela,Hawkeye. One thing compared to overwatch I know there isn't a ton of shields but I don't like how powerful the defensive ults in this game are like Luna/Mantis but they are also insanely poorly balanced because they are also the only two with cc in the strategist class. Luna being the only one able to heal flankers. In overwatch Zenyatta has zero cc and low healing and is mostly dps. Lucio has aoe healing that is also low neither of them can main heal. So why is it that in rivals can Luna and mantis can have almost all the tools a healer would want and high healing? I do think cloak and dagger are good but luna and mantis have way higher dps and cc with shadow phase ability being very hard to use to save other people.
Have to do the combo with Him. Left then back to shielding when you are far away. When kup close you need to left click into melee. Rinse repeat. But gotta make sure when your dark energy is high enough weave that into your combo.
Basic attack, melee right away, put shield up, rinse and repeat. When E energy gets decently high, do the same and add on your E. He can do it all so fast and safely
So ur diagnosis about Hawkeye hella is wrong. The problem is healers. The reason these characters are so strong is because they have one hit potential. Burst. If u don’t kill enemies immediately, they instantly heal to full. It’s very difficult to get kills with scarlet or punisher high elo. If they nerfed all healing by about 20% you would see much more diversity in the dps.
If you're really trying to carry, that seems to be the motto. But Vanguards can make a big splash as well. Strategists definitely have the lowest carry potential. I will say at lower ranks you can do a lot more with any character if you're good!
I think 2-2-2 is pretty not great, and people are just doing it because of overwatch. I believe that will change in time. Psylocke is probably the most overrated hero in the game. Unfortunately, i think netease said theyre not gonna nerf anything and approach balance with a "buffs only" mentality, which is a failure of an approach to balance.
Appreciate your feedback. I had some others say having some background music makes it nicer to sit through so I was trying it out. I can see both sides. I'll think on it thank you!
I think its okay for people to form opinions on things, just hopefully they can back them up with reason. Some things are simple math, and I think a lot of the balance issues personally are simple math needs to change.
Wolverines needs major work. He is designed to jump in and brawl but is squishy with no mobility. Make that make sense. Give him more healing and a wall crawl.
Thats fine if you keep his damage the same. But at least increase his mobility while in rage mode. And he should have more health bc it makes no sense that iron fist has healing better than wolverine’s
The games is kinda boring honestly. Same gameplay loop and levels. The aim mechanics is terrible. Literally aiming at the target and hits still don't register. The matchmaking is absolute ass. There is no role queue, so every game is 6 dps. I think the only people that play this game is children and manchilds. Marvel IP is kinda weak honestly. They should of made a moba shooter for League of Legends instead. That game would last a 100 years. People say that is an Overwatch killer, I mean Overwatch is such a shit game too, so thats not really setting the bar high.
I'm getting the impression you may not like Marvel Rivals much. Sorry to hear that. It has some flaws but I'm enjoying it overall. Can't go wrong for a free to play game :)
The characters I play should get buffed and everyone else should get nerfed. I think.
Haha if only it were that simple!
Also, I had a 78 KO Psylocke game and basically swap to her whenever I get tilted and just win the match. But she definitely needs her burst damage nerfed!
I do agree Lunas ult lasts too long and they should shorten it but I don’t think they should nerf the healing output that’s what a support ult is for you save it for a big damage ult or the ult feels useless.
I think the healing output is fine but yeah it lasts too long (12 seconds) and she can charge it quite quickly. So every second fight it's up and can just flat out win a fight!
@@Sylvus66 yeah I agree lunas ult is dummy long rn I just hope they don’t nerf the healing side then it feels like lucio ult where u can’t really counter ults as much with it
Wolverine needs to be a tank
No he doesn’t. He’s fine as a duelist. As a suggestion, they could reduce the cd of his damage mitigation ability by 2 sec and give him an extra charge of claw dash while slightly increasing its cooldown by 2 seconds or have feral charge reset on elimination (final hits and assists).
There are plenty of tanks they could add from the Marvel Universe before they start reworking characters.
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I hope Wolverine gets a buff in the future but I have found effectiveness with Wolverine specifically. He can tackle tanks into real bad positions and him with a mantis boosting him and some ranged dps to help burn the tank… it can work. I really want to see the stats at all the different levels of play to see the whole picture.
Wolverine is definitely in the Tank Buster role currently. He does % of MAX HP damage, which obviously favours focusing tanks. I would need to test it but I wonder what his TTK is on a tank compared to Punisher shooting the tank in the chest, or Hela etc. Wolverine has to put himself in great danger, he's a simple Peni web or a Luna freeze away from being dead easily.
Love the character, I think he just needs a little bit of tuning and help
Justice for Storm she needs a buff!
Yes agreed. Honestly I'd remake her kit.. I've got some ideas. Not a fan of her current attacks or animations at all right besides her ultimate.
Regular movement itself would be a buff
Her movement feels so slow to me. Honestly, better movement alone would go such a long way
Rework would be nice, she does not feel like an omega level mutant lol @Sylvus66
+1 on buff or rework. She's my favorite of the X-men and would like to see her make her way into the meta
Nice video with good analysis , I was rank 1 a few days ago playing pretty much only strange since he is by far the best tank right now but hanging around top 20 at the moment but most of the video is correct the top end of the dps role is too strong at the moment leading to a lack of variety and the tanks and healers basically have to be picked around them for the most part, also for wolverine try and watch some games with healis in them he also streams if he is on private but whenever I get him on my team on wolverine I know I won the game he has a super interesting playstyle with it which could potentially fall off later when people have more experience but at the moment it’s quite effective into tanks, also in regards to tank variety strange is for sure too strong compared to the others however they have a bit of a balance nightmare where the dps are too strong and games that strange is banned in just become dps player 1 vs 1s due to the lack of ability to block damage from the tank pov I don’t necessarily think strange needs a nerf maybe to his damage but the other tanks probably need a buff to be honest to make them more appealing to play and bring impact since there isn’t really a reason to not play strange + mag groot or hulk at the moment as these characters are the only real ones that bring impact mag has an unbreakable shield groot walls can bring a lot of value around hooks and just in general and then hulk can buff strange dps to an even higher level outside of those 3 most tanks just don’t do enough to be worth picking at the top top level. Anyway that was a yap but interested to see your future content thanks for covering stuff like this for the player base
Yo thanks for the long comment! Appreciate you writing all of that.
I agree that finding a solution to Vanguards and just making them more desired to play is important but difficult. People enjoy speed and mobility and flashiness and a lot of the duelists clearly have it.
I hope with some balance changes and some new Vanguards and stuff that the role will become more used. High ranks like yourself know what is required, low ranks just sorta play what they want and pray it works lol
Thanks again for your input!
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I'd love to see a hulk buff personally. I just want his jump to charge slightly quicker, maybe %5 . Everything else feels really good but if i could have one more thing it would be either a second clap charge or .5-1 second cooldown reduction
Hulk is an interesting case. Definitely hard to play but scary when played right. Very curious to see what they do for him in the future!
Hela is insane but Hawkeye is something else, he melts tanks solo.
Also, pointing and clicking should still bring value, not everyone can aim, consistently.
I don’t know what to do about characters that rely solely on aim. If you undertune their damage, they are effectively useless, but if you leave it as is, they dominate the meta, no questions asked.
Well said. It's a tricky problem. I feel like an extreme change would be to lower the damage but make the projectile hitbox bigger. Basically makes it easier to hit (to help the people with worse aim) but doesn't reward high skill players as much because the damage is lower and they would've hit the target anyway.
Who knows. It will be interesting to see how this develops
@ I think if someone has bad aim, they should be less effective at aim based characters. If they patch the effectiveness of mechanical skill out of the game, they will just make all the same mistakes as overwatch.
Tanks need some work. kits arent that fun.
I agree. They could use a bit more spice. When playing a Vanguard it mostly feels good fighting other Vanguards, but other stuff not so much. I hope we have some new ones released soon
I like Groot for his vine whip. I can use his grenade, then a couple vine whips on a Spidey or magik for a KO. Helps a lot with divers on the backline.
the joy I get from setting up perfectly placed peni mines is unimaginable, its so fun to one shot the enemy healers
They’re pretty fun but they could do with quality of life changes. Holding space on Hulk forever sucks.
Cap is very fun the others are too slow
So do you think when we get out of season 0 and characters like Hela and Hawkeye lose their flat damage buff, that it will open more room for other characters, or just dps all takes the same dip and they remain as dominate as they are now?
I think the seasonal buffs are a headache. Ill be discussing it in a patch note video. Because you're right, maybe after season is over they are easier to deal with, maybe something else gets busted instead.
I prefer the balance to have more stability and not wildly change every 3 months but we will see how they handle that. It's going to change even sooner with Season 0 being a short one.
Really appreciate your comment it's a thoughtful take!
Seeing winter soldier ban is crazy like dude isn't nearly broken as the meta picks lol
At range he isn't as bad for sure. When it gets a little bit closer quarters, depending on the map, he can get scary. The guy has a lot of tools to use!
@Sylvus66 I know he is good I use him I just think your a dumbass if someone bans him because the man has to dump his entire kit to kill 1 dualist who may or may not just glitch out of the combo and live.
Winter soldier close range does so much dmg and he can literally team wipe quite easily with his ult
He is absolutely busted with a coordinated team. If the team is helping with resets, his ult is nuts every time
Would be cool if you can make holes in wolverine body and once its healed they start closing up.
Ooh visually changing as characters get hurt.. could do something for Ironmans suit as well, among others. Great idea!
Very enjoyable and helpful video , amazing insight. I agree with what you saying
Thank you kindly! I appreciate your support!
How's Peni in high rank? She's my main. Been loving her. Just don't see much of her.
Certain maps or certain spots in maps she is very strong. Obviously she prefers closer quarters to utilize mines and her nest, and the fact she has no self defense in the way of a shield.
I personally feel like she's better suited as a second body up front and don't like tanking alone with her, but honestly feel like she's strong overall. If dive becomes more prominent (like if they nerf the ranged duelists) then Peni gets even better since she's so strong vs dive.
I think you can go far with Peni, definitely!
Most of the "weak" characters are simply brawl comp characters. I think we just havent really tried/figured out a brawl comp team yet that will unlock thier potential. It will be interesting seeing this unfold in the next month or so
This video explains perfectly why the game isn’t and won’t ever be balanced for the top 0.5% and it don’t bother me one bit.
True. As long as the majority of the base are having a good experience, that is what matters. If it's stale at the top, so be it.
Luna ultimate duration reduced by 4 seconds, Luna and mantis ultimate charge increased by 15%, hela ultimate duration reduced by 2 seconds, hela health reduced by 25.
no, thank you
I've got some similar changes on my list! The Luna Mantis ults for sure are on there. A flat reduction in many base damages as well.
I love simple and straight to the point comments like this thanks!
4 seconds is way too much Luna would be useless after that maybe like 1.5-2
I have potato aim, but I pick up Hela and just dominate lobbies. I actually really love the hero (fell in love with her bc I love Cate Blanchett and her portrayal of Hela), but heroes shouldn't be that oppressive by sitting on the opposite side of the map with such return of value for such little input.
Psylocke may be oppressive at times, but she requires a lot to get that value. You have to get into a backline and find your opportunity and you can have your cds forced out. Compared to Hela, she's much more fair, but her combo is maybe a tad bit too much. But if you nerf her combo it will be taken over by Iron Fist or Punisher shotgun. And tbh, part of the charm of rivals for me is that you can play a duelist and find an assassination much more easily than OW (bc OW has made it so stupidly hard to find assassinations), so I actually hope they don't nerf Psylocke or anyone except Hela.
Also Hawkeye, I hated Hanzo forever in OW, I don't like, and will never like Hawkeye. Dumpster the character I don't care.
Hawkeye and groot would be my choices
Hey man I’ve been really enjoying the game and I enjoy your recent videos as well. What are your thoughts on Wolverine getting the doomfist treatment with a tank rework? I think his abilities and his displacement could be very valuable for a vanguard, and more fitting to his character as being hard to kill
Thanks for your kind comment! I agree that if there was a candidate to be moved to Vanguard it would be him. I would've bet money he was a Vanguard to begin with, guess I would've lost.
I think it makes total sense for the character and the current basis of his kit. I do believe Storm should be reworked to a shielding strategist as well.
I'm not sure where the devs stand on reworks in general, it's likely too early but we will see!
Love your comment thanks dude
Would be curious to see what your patch notes would be and also use it as a comparison to what actually gets released
Will discuss them soon, maybe even tomorrow!
Damage needs a major nerf and so does healing. If you’re a vanguard against a Hawkeye and Hella it’s so frustrating, especially if they are damage boosted by mantis. You literally just die in 2 seconds flat, unless you play strange.
Then they need to nerf the click a button immortality abilities. Life link. Luna/mantis ult. Loki immortality. These abilities are completely broken.
Vanguard is by far the worst role in the game
with very little play making potential due to how oppressive these jacked up stat outputs are.
If they don't nerf Luna's ult duration they could reduce her ult charge rate. Last night I had 3 people on top of me and my buddy went from 3% ult to 71% charge in 13 seconds at the start of the match. Her shift piercing healing/damage is just too good for the amount of value it generates. If they made it take longer to gen her ult then when to use her ult becomes a more critical decision.
100% agree. I would do both to be honest. Nerf her ult duration from 12 seconds to 9, increase her ult energy required by like 20%. It's too persistent, it lasts too long, it requires little skill, it can hardly be outplayed. Great comment!
@@Sylvus66 10 seconds would probably be fine. I like the 20% ult charge increase with it. The risk with overnerfing Luna's ult is that she would end up feeling unplayable with a weak team. At least with Mantis you can still shoot and use skills where as Luna does nothing herself during her ult.
good video, music just a bit too loud
Thank you for the feedback I definitely should have lowered it more. Appreciate you
what are your thoughts on the best team-up metas?
Great question. I haven't spoken about team ups yet really, and to be honest I like some of the teamup abilities but dislike what they do for balancing.
I think I need more time to really digest it and to see what they do when Season 0 ends and the seasonal buffs change. Appreciate your question though!
Fastball Special, babay
W video, I also don't like to play meta heroes. Game just make me to one trick Hela. You wanna win? You have to play Hela.
One day they will make Wolverine great again. 😎
Agreed! Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Thanks for your support dude!
MWGA! I'm so here for it. I hoped they just rushed him to make the fans happy and they do right by him.
Do you think a ranked solo climb is possible for an average player? Or even if it is, probably going to be so much pain, better to make some friends. lol
It is possible. Just might be frustrating on certain heroes. Strategists are a bit at the mercy of others decision making, even if you are superb at it. You play enough, you'll move up, and hopefully can get to a rank where people understand what is happening around them better!
Maybe I'll go for it and see where I get lol. Ranked in the CBT was so much pain, it felt like you had little individual control over the win, so rank was very up and down. I'd hoped that Silver would even out a little, but it didn't. Sounds like season 0 is still wild. I don't usually play ranked in any game, so don't know what's normal lol.
Dps is your best bet for solo climbing tanks are dependent on Heals and team and strategist is dependent on tanks and dps but some dps can basically solo carry
I think it’s too early to suggest nerfs for any characters except Héla, & even then I would just nerf the health she gets from her ult or something, she basically has 3 lives when it’s charged. In this early stage they should just buff the weaker characters & see if that balances things out
Yeah it's hard to say. They'd be buffing a lot and it might be easier to nerf a few. Definitely agree with Hela having so many lives, her kit is stacked
As a Hela main i absolutely agree with you, buffs before nerfs
As for hela though I think we can go about it in 2 ways either make it always a 3 HS kill (only 2 hit with team up) instead of a 2 hit kill or really nerf her range so she can only 2 hit kill fairly close, so she has to really work for her kills
Also nerf the ult health cause there's basically no counterplay right now
Do you think peni needs some buffs?, I heard she falls off in the higher ranks,
I think Peni is just more situation than some of the other tanks. A good Peni on the right map (close quarters) and that has some other Vanguard with her is a real threat. She has a lot of great tools, her right click is insane against dive etc.
She is great just needs to be in the right spot to shine. Right now she just cant hit many right clicks because Dr. Strange shields and Magento shields are in front of her face all game.
I feel sorry for people who play this game to win, instead of playing for fun. Imagine you love Wolverine, because you are an actual Marvel comic fan. However, because you are obsessed with winning, you never use him. Sad.
Yeah I'm not too keen on just playing to win (I'd rather have close tight down to the wire matches). I like being pushed as a player. And I've played a lot of Wolverine so far.
It just does become tiring playing something iconic and being insta KOed because some numbers are tuned too high.
I'm confident balance will improve and Wolverine will have a better spot to shine
Mixed on this cause I agree that playing JUST to win sucks, and being on the losing side with someone like that is just draining. But in comp I have sacrificed my love of playing Spider-Man and moon knight to play vanguard, and I think I had a way more fun time having a good team comp and winning then playing my favorite characters and getting steamrolled and losing. How ever in quick play literally who cares imo play anyone you want no matter the team comp
Wolverine can be very strong if you're picking the right targets and getting good dives
@@LVLCOOP I agree with your statement 🤝
I hope to see punisher get buffed. I main him because he’s a character that requires you to aim, but he’s a bit weak at the moment
Didnt devs say they would never nerf only buff?
So like dragon ball z
From what I've heard/read, they're avoiding nerfs where possible and buffing primarily. I could have misunderstood though, and time will tell.
Not sure if their official stance. I think it will depend of course. If you can nerf 5 heroes instead of buffing 20 others that might be easier to execute haha
No they said recently that nerfs are often necessary even if they’re unpopular, so the opposite if anything.
I cant wait till this game gets updates, between balance changes and new characters, i think every hero is gonna be able to fill a niche job in a certain comp, this game is so janky and fun lol
At the end of the day it has gotta be fun and it definitely is. The "least fun" part of it is getting insta KOed by a random Hawkeye arrow that missed the Vanguard in front and hit me behind haha
Im excited but also worried about the patch notes. If they choose to buff the entire cast and not nerf the 8 or so heros that are op, its going to quickly become toxic and deny new players. I hope they give universal nerfs to healers, maybe something like everytime X character is healed, it reduces their next heal by 30 (stackint up to 90) until 5 seconds pass from the last heal. At the current state, not playing the top tier dps just feels bad because 2-3 healers can heal all damage on a unit instantly, so you need the burst dps. Strange having an 850 large shield is too op considering that characters like venom only get a comparable sheild on them at extremely low hp. A lot of ults also need buffed. You have team wipes like jeff, iron man, wanda, Strange, hela, punisher, and more, but some character ults just suck. Venom just gets another sheild, which he doesnt need or want considering he has a shield skill thatll give more, and hes designed as a dive character, making it a far better choice to have a single target or large damage ult that can kill in exchange for some of his hp, which would combo better with his skills. I guess a way that they could go about nerfing without nerfs is by giving some of the less chosen heros heros a debuff on their attacks that reduces healing received.
If you cant tell, i like venom, so i may be baised.
Nerfing healing output is a no because you can’t punish good healers when they will have to solo heal at times in QP or low-rank which is where the majority of players will always be.
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Black widows melee hits harder than wolverine.
It's insane
I'd never even compared the two but wow.
wolverine does 15 + 1.5% of the target's max health. He doesn't wanna fight squishies.
This is criminal.
Hela and Hawkeye are only up so high because of their seasonal buffs. They get a 20% DMG boost and this is NOT a team up buff. They just have this all the time even without the team up. it's called a seasonal buff so I assume when the season ends these buffs will be gone and hela won't do as much DMG anymore.
Seasonal buffs seems like a bad idea idk why they have those
@podimegwu12 ya I'm not sure. I think it's to promote the core team up characters. You'll notice every main character for a team up has a seasonal buffs. They promote the main character so you have characters to build off of. Team ups may change per season too. Might not change until after season one. This is technically season 0
Yup the Seasonal Buffs really throw the balance out of wack. Perhaps Hela and Hawkeye are fine next season, it's really going to be hard to determine where a lot of things actually stand.
I really like your comment, I definitely shouldve spoken on the Seasonal buffs more. Ill learn for next time!
@Sylvus66 I haven't heard anyone talk about them. Most think they're part of the team ups.
Meta update is ranked is the only game mode. Quickplay has far too many hidden AI teammates and opponents. It’s frustrating to queue and realize you’re playing with and against bots. Waste of 15-20 minutes waiting for two rounds to play out before you can queue again.
Awesome
Thanks :)
Great video
Thanks! Appreciate you
We need better tanks, most tanks are just boring, thou i want gambit who would be a dps to be added,
We need maybe Colossus as a tank, idk kinda hard, alot of characters that could be ranks. I dont find interesting.
I hope they find a way to make Colossus work. He's my #2 most wanted behind Nightcrawler.
Juggernaut is another Vanguard option I could see working with charge abilities. Perhaps Dr Doom himself?
@Sylvus66 my biggest issue is that none of the playerstyle of tanks or characters makes me want to play tank, so far I'm playing psylocke magik and Loki and mantis
People tell me oh you need to play tank but their just zzzzzz.
Like In over watch I played Reinhardt diva, but here I play magneto and that's kinda it, and I'm not thrilled about it either
Colossus would be an amazing tank with a Synergy with Magik most likely
@@TheDragonRuler- synergy would probably be with magneto since he is metal and magneto could throw him into enemies and knock them up as a synergy.
yeah i tried storm she was fun but man damage feels horrible its not even easy to hit with her either
Yeah not easy to hit and when you do the numbers are far too low. She needs some big changes IMO
Buff Scarlet, Squirrel girl, storm, captain america.
Then nerf Hela,Hawkeye.
One thing compared to overwatch I know there isn't a ton of shields but I don't like how powerful the defensive ults in this game are like Luna/Mantis but they are also insanely poorly balanced because they are also the only two with cc in the strategist class. Luna being the only one able to heal flankers.
In overwatch Zenyatta has zero cc and low healing and is mostly dps.
Lucio has aoe healing that is also low neither of them can main heal.
So why is it that in rivals can Luna and mantis can have almost all the tools a healer would want and high healing? I do think cloak and dagger are good but luna and mantis have way higher dps and cc with shadow phase ability being very hard to use to save other people.
*sad namor noises*
He's solid! If others get knocked down a notch I bet he rises :) I've been playing him a lot
Im newer to Dr Strange, how are you dishing out so much damage? Out dps’sing the dps sometimes 😂😂
Have to do the combo with Him. Left then back to shielding when you are far away. When kup close you need to left click into melee. Rinse repeat. But gotta make sure when your dark energy is high enough weave that into your combo.
his melee is the key
Basic attack, melee right away, put shield up, rinse and repeat. When E energy gets decently high, do the same and add on your E. He can do it all so fast and safely
That's probably one of the reasons Hulk is getting banned tbh, Boosts the damage of his Dark Magic
I’ll be real with you, this all seems anecdotal. I’ve seen Storm and Black widow being played often in both ranked and quick matches…
I merely searched the top ranked games (where they never show up) and my own personal experience. Glad to see them being played in your games though!
nerf hela and hawkeye and the healing in general
Very helpful
Glad you think so!
So ur diagnosis about Hawkeye hella is wrong. The problem is healers.
The reason these characters are so strong is because they have one hit potential. Burst. If u don’t kill enemies immediately, they instantly heal to full.
It’s very difficult to get kills with scarlet or punisher high elo.
If they nerfed all healing by about 20% you would see much more diversity in the dps.
Hmm I disagree for many reasons. And math doesn't really support your theory. But I appreciate you giving your opinion!
Moral of the story kids dont play anything else besides dps
If you're really trying to carry, that seems to be the motto. But Vanguards can make a big splash as well. Strategists definitely have the lowest carry potential.
I will say at lower ranks you can do a lot more with any character if you're good!
I just wish this game wasnt so poorly balanced. zzzzz
It's not as far off as you might think! I honestly think a lot of it is numbers that need to be changed, which is a good thing! Thanks for comment 🙂
I think 2-2-2 is pretty not great, and people are just doing it because of overwatch. I believe that will change in time.
Psylocke is probably the most overrated hero in the game.
Unfortunately, i think netease said theyre not gonna nerf anything and approach balance with a "buffs only" mentality, which is a failure of an approach to balance.
nah balancing is what ruined overwatch. we need buffs not nerfs
Well sometimes if you nerf one thing it buffs other things. What actual changes doesn't matter, its what the end result ends up being.
dope video lowkey though, the music takes away from your content style and makes it hard to sit through
Yeah what is even the point.....
Appreciate your feedback. I had some others say having some background music makes it nicer to sit through so I was trying it out. I can see both sides. I'll think on it thank you!
I can tell this game has gotten popular too many people trying to sale their opinion as a fact. lol in comments
I think its okay for people to form opinions on things, just hopefully they can back them up with reason. Some things are simple math, and I think a lot of the balance issues personally are simple math needs to change.
Y’all really obsessing over meta and it hasn’t been a month.
Wolverines needs major work. He is designed to jump in and brawl but is squishy with no mobility. Make that make sense. Give him more healing and a wall crawl.
Wolverine is designed to be a tank buster
He shouldn't be diving squishies he should be looking to displace tanks.
Thats fine if you keep his damage the same. But at least increase his mobility while in rage mode. And he should have more health bc it makes no sense that iron fist has healing better than wolverine’s
The games is kinda boring honestly. Same gameplay loop and levels. The aim mechanics is terrible. Literally aiming at the target and hits still don't register.
The matchmaking is absolute ass. There is no role queue, so every game is 6 dps. I think the only people that play this game is children and manchilds.
Marvel IP is kinda weak honestly. They should of made a moba shooter for League of Legends instead. That game would last a 100 years.
People say that is an Overwatch killer, I mean Overwatch is such a shit game too, so thats not really setting the bar high.
I'm getting the impression you may not like Marvel Rivals much. Sorry to hear that. It has some flaws but I'm enjoying it overall. Can't go wrong for a free to play game :)
Bro just wants to hate lol