As u mentioned, the ghosting and motion blur, its what rly made it unenjoyable for me personally. I didnt know blu ray removed those, i should check it out. Great vid as always man!
I think the Centipede CGI still stands out to me the most, it's so well done! You're hard pressed to find 3D of that quality in anime releasing now hats off to the J.C Staff and Studio Moe 3D artists. Also I wouldn't mind an ongoing series by you for both: "Actually Well Animated" and, "Not That Well Animated" videos. I think it's good for building a brand but nevertheless another banger 👑
i noticed that too, i was a bit on doubt when i saw it for the first time, that is a very well integrated CGI character, plus, it has really good fps variation, where it would do the 15 fps thing, but did increase it's fps on quick attacks and impact scenes with rich movements, something many implementations of CGI characters lack and ruins the blending in other animation works.
@@AwakenedRookie dimming means making the screen darker, and ghosting is blending frames into eachother making a ''trail or blur effect'' these techniques are done by tv stations in order to reduce risk of epilepsy its a law in japan
Even back then when I was on the "OPM S2 is badly animated" train, even then I couldn't deny the quality of those Garou sequences. And thank God you're praising the CGI centipede because I was so impressed by it when I saw it back then and wondered why nobody took notice of how high quality CG like this came from a show with such a bad schedule. Even with my disappointment, I hated the JCStaff slander going around because they made good stuff before, including the incredibly animated Konosuba movie, and they had a terrible schedule. I might not have been an expert, hell I'm not an expert now, but even I knew that people were being ridiculous with the bandwagoning.
@@Hypotenuse731 You will have to erase Season 1 from your memories completely to somewhat enjoy Season 2. The style and Animation why isn't super bad like 7 deadly sin Season 3 bad, it's still bad. Having a few shining spot can't save a whole Season.
Honestly season 2 was mostly let down by dumb decisions with some of the visuals. Some of the FX/overlays and speed lines looked really bad, the way most of the characters' skin was shaded with an orange gradient looked really weird, and the way they shaded metal looked terrible. However season 2 had so much going for it that people didn't really take note of, like the amazing CGI on some of the monsters, the banging soundtrack, overall tone and pacing and the animation which looked incredible in some scenes.
I dunno why everyone keeps going on and on about the metal shading.. am I the only one who liked it? I guess it’s because I like Matt finishes on metal lol
@@John-dd8kh I understand the vision, In theory it could've looked decent. But in my opinion the final result was bad, they basically just slapped some gradients on the metal parts, added some white highlights, blurred everything and called it a day. I think the claymore anime is a good example of what this kind of metal texture can look like when done well. But since they didn't have to time to do it well, they should have just gone the more simple route like in season 1.
With season 2 I actually had more issues with the sound/audio effects than the animation. It doesn't just look worse than S1, it SOUNDS worse in every way. I think for the past several years most anime coming out are using the exact same ultra-bass-boosted cheapo distorted sound effects that makes all fights sound identical (and I have a $400 subwoofer). So many season 2 fight scenes were let down by over-use of the same sound clip/sample on repeat. Probably another casualty of limited budget and production schedule.
THANK YOU. I rarely see people bring this up but the sound design did more harm to S2 than the animation. The animation itself was overall not bad, even getting pretty good at points. But the overuse of the same, cheap sounding effects over and over took me out of each fight, and the art/animation wasn't good enough to make up for it.
Exactly and i thought everyone is using better quality headphones to understand the real quality of sound effects xD. It is so terrible i don't know how people don't talk about that one sampled explosion sound 💥
I heard everyone in the anime space was talking bad about ss2, but when I watched it, I find it perfectly fine and good. The fights are still epic, and the comedy still hits. I think the hype really got to everyone's heads and when that hype was not realized, they started to form a mob mentality and pull even the average anime watcher into it.
@@Ark_knight0 Lets not pretend that S1 was THAT perfect though, you can still find ALOT of still frame animaiton (or what detractors of S2 like to call "Powerpoint animaiton). Examples off the top of my head: Stinger vs Deep Sea Folk (letterally defeated them all with one still frame each). Then Stinger was defeated by a still frame from Deep Sea King. Saitama's hero test was filled with still frames and basic animation. Tatsumaki defeated Ancient King by a fade in to black into a still frame. There is a part in the meteor episode where we see a still frame of people trying to evacuate the city with sounds of people screaming and nothing being animated. Point is, if oyu're gonna nitpick, you will find things to complain about.
Tbh, I agree. The animation is actually pretty good especially episode 10-12. I feel like as humans, we're more attracted to negativity and because of season 1, we couldn't help compare it to the original which was probably one of the best animated seasons.
I just wanna say I love your channel man the editing is such high quality, your accent is satisfying af to listen to, and the topics you talk about are always so interesting. KEEP IT UP
I'm gonna piss a lot of people, so be prepared....... I loved the Garo battle in the final few episodes of season 2 more than every single fight in season 1. The reason is one single word: Choreography.
that's a reasonable point. Saitamas fights can't be that good in terms of choreography... (except the boros fight, even though it was clear that siatama could have one-punched him) (I still love saitamas fights) since he just one-shots the enemy. garou has material arts and can actually use these. because he doesn't one hit everyone.
@@gaminginvirinch3339 S01 fights are more than just "Good" but I just don't like generic anime fights with OP characters. I mean for Gods sake, S01 fights felt like I'm watching a 1VS1 match from mortal combat so I kept waiting for a "Ready.... Fight!" announcement any second. I just love battles that have more than 2 combatants and where you can feel that all sides are struggling. In all of S01 fights did anyone even think for a second that Saitama might lose or at least struggle to win? No.
@@scythe9734i said animation wise i also want enemy and opponents throw Hands at each other but the effects and sound design doesn't want me to see it. I am getting just by hearing it.
JC stuff has some really good talent. As long as S3 has a good schedule, I have zero doubt that it will have exellent animation (even if it doesn't quite reach the levels of S1). With how long S3 has been seemingly in production I would be genuinely surprised if they still messed it up.
And the Season 1 Cinematographer is also returning. Plus they almost had 2 years make 12 episodes and they could also have some big animators working on the project. I still didn't get it that why are people trying to be cool and judging season 3 by its trailer I mean it was just pre-animated and looked good specially with Cinematography. Imagine what the final product will be.
Yea OPM season 2 is really well animated...I never considered it bad the only problem for me is the ghosting effects... obviously it can not match the creativity season 1 has...it had almost every veteren animators of the industry but the actual problem comes when the so called anime youtubers or influences keeps on saying season 2 is poorly animated
OPM S1 had almost no madhouse staff. all free lancers, it was a passion project. so that’s why it’s arguably the greatest anime season ever. JC STAFF couldn’t have competed even with an unlimited budget. i’m hopeful for s3
Even though i don't remember much from S2 but Aoki cuts stand out the most i can even say he carries the whole season But these two 5:21 and 8:19 cuts r the most memorable one for me
I don't even remember Opm S2 that much, I watched it a long ago,but god damn it wasn't really as bad as people made it to be. Some of my favorite cuts were literally animated by one guy "Kenichiro Aoki" I didn't even knew about him(because I never looked for any production material of S2) Seriously gotta respect Aoki for saving S2. Also that Centipede Cgi is so good that at one point I thought it was 2d animation.
Too many people are either too butthurt at the idea that their favorite anime isnt as well animated as they think, or theyve bought into the idea that OPM season 2 is bad looking, to see that its actually very well animated for a hefty chunk of the season.
Im really looking forward to season 3 and which studio is gonna handle it, there are so many awesome action sequences next arc I need to see them with season 1 quality but I know that's asking too much
@@ilikerainbow.butimnotgay.4835 I didn't hate season 2 like other people and the trailer looks promising so Im still really excited. Im happy we're getting it at all honestly all this wait I thought it was cancelled
I had zero problems with how Season 2 looked like before going online to look for more OPM content after I watched S2. TBH I didn't have any problems with it afterwards either but it was interesting to see some people hating it so much. I was just happy it got made. I rather see all of OPM animated rather than seeing nothing. GIVE ME THAT TABLE FLIP.
Hoo boy I could already see the haters from your past videos getting pissed at how you praised OPM Season 2 thinking that you like the animation more compared to JJK , Bleach, etc when that’s far from the truth
finally someone with comonsense. i watched "a certain scientific railgun" recently... J.C:Staff could have done way better at OPM if they had more time like in Railgun 1,2 and 3
I put all the blame to Bandai for JC Staff's poor scheduling. Just how do you expect ANY studio to adapt Yusuke Murata's manga and do it justice in less than 8 months, let alone JC Staff? I've seen the studio and its in-house staffs are capable of when given way better scheduling (Danmachi, Railgun, Index, etc.), and they are not a low class anime studio.
I always thought it was weird how negative the second seasons reception was. The animation was pretty neat, and the emotional and comedic beats still hit. I do wish they had less of those machine gun punching scenes though, felt like it lowered the impact of that last Garou fight.
The ghosting screwed over an unholy amount of cuts but even then the schedule was utterly abysmal. Considering the time between season 2's end and the wait for 3's beginning, with production having already started, I'm really REALLY hoping for a good production buffer that'll actually make for a consistent level of decent quality. Can't expect for lightning to strike again like it did for season 1 but I can dream they make it even halfway close.
Fucking thank you It's genuinely saddening how so many people dismiss season 2 as "poorly animated" when it's pretty above average all things considered, and has some mad impressive moments of bombastic action sakuga that is genuinely very well done. It's no season 1, obviously, but it's still worth enjoying
I just want to say that I was a Freshmen in high school when this came out and I like everyone else was a huge fan of Season 1. I was a huge OPM fanboy and I felt like I was in the minority of people who loved season 2. I was mesmerized by the the show itself even though the animation was jarring, not because of the change of studio but because of the motion blur. I knew right away they would fix this in the Blu-Ray. With that in mind I enjoyed the ride and watched every episode with excitement and joy. I loved OPM season 2 and even liked it more than season 1. I loved how action packed this season was and the characters in it. As for the metal look the show had I didn't mind it and even liked it. I have since graduated high school a year ago and I have to say this was one of the best periods of my life so far. There's something about being excited for your favorite show and just enjoying it even with its small downsides. I own both Blu-rays of seasons 1/2 and I was thinking about rewatching it. Edit: I forgot to mention that both Blu-Rays gave us extra episodes and even with how rough the release was for the TV version of OPM Season 2, I am still surprised that JC Staff was able to push out more mini episodes for us in the Blu-Rays and it goes to show much they care about the series. One more thing is I want to show how excited I was with the fight scenes. Garou: Every fight scene he was in was so epic and his theme "I'm a Monster" made it all the more better when he went on his rampage. I remember standing up and feeling the excitement rush through my body. Genos: A lot of his fight scenes were quick but was attention grabbing and I loved it. I loved the quick animation for his scenes as he moved super fast. Saitama: That final punch at the end of season 2 was so hype! I remember just cheering with the tension of the theme "Tank Top" playing as Centichoro started slithering towards King until Saitama dropped in last second and his theme "Seigi Shikkou" played during that final punch! Suiryu vs Garou: Although this was Blu-ray exclusive, I loved the fight scene of these 2 legendary master martial artists beating each other up with their martial arts. I remember gasping and cheering when this happened as I liked these two characters. Closing thoughts: I loved this show and think it's underrated. Although I have grown up in the last 4-5 years, I can't wait for season 3 and I hope I can get that kind of energy back. No matter how the show turns out, I know I'll enjoy it.
It’s more really general audiences just lacking the terminology. There’s the general ‘taking a still frame and judging the quality of animation from it’ that happens every now and again. I don’t think it’s not knowing the difference between them, it’s just not knowing the different words for everything. When it comes to animation, everything is called animation even when it isn’t (I.E. in the case of shot composition, line art, colour, effects, etc)
The terms used are irrelevant. People have eyes and can clearly see that it looks like shit. You don't need to be a chef to know that your food tastes like crap.
@@TheFracturedfuture true, but using the food analogy, there is a big difference between “it tastes bad” and “it looks bad”. They usually go together, but it’s at least worth knowing that much. Of course, in visual media, you can only really look at it, but the food analogy was just a crude example. Big difference between the quality of a drawing vs the animation. At the very least, when people say “the animation looks bad” it’s not too hard to know what they mean. However, if you know anything about Ben 10, I just kinda find it a bit odd when people say Omniverse had bad animation when it actually has way more movement compared to previous series. What they really meant was the art style is bad, which is a whole different thing.
@@TheFracturedfuture anime consumers that are dissatisfied with the shows look are automatically shіttіng on animation, disrespecting the work of animators while most of season 2 complaints are related to compositing, sound design, and tv ghosting/dimming, all of which have nothing to do with animation
I honestly never understood the hate Season 2 got. Sure, there were problems, especially with that damn metal texture not meshing with the rest of the show, blur added because of tv regulations and too bassboosted sound effects. But when you looked at without nitpicking it was okay. There were some even very good moments. And story was still engaging, even for me as manga reader.
I always had this thought with s2, not as crazy as s1 but had really great moments, I always enjoyed JC Staff anime, from the Index franchise(Railgun especially) Edens zero and Danmachi, it Aoki having one of my favourite styles, great video👍🏾
Opm was the second anime i ever watched and i watched in a row i genuinely didn't thought of a anything wrong with it But now that i look back yeah season 2 quality dropped off but still like it
I don't even know why people got mad in the first place, When i watching season 2 back in the day i literally didn't notice anything wrong with the animation, it is just alright, nothing to write home about but nothing that will make you throw up seeing it.
Just saw some of the comments,why tf are people relating this video with "Not that well animated series" Just as I suspected larger audience = dumb takes, stupid questions and annoying mfs. Whatever man it's still nothing compared to toxicity on Twitter
I was very mad at season 2 for not looking like season 1 but I didn't realize how much of season 2 actually looked fairly decent and even great very great video
Watch the video first people, he never said OPM S2 was better than any of those, he just said that is was nicely animated and that the hate it got was really undeserve. Its the complete opposite of the other vids where they get highly praised but have solid-good animation. OPM S2 has solid animation but terrible amounts of hate
I'm sure it could've looked better but saying it would be as good as season 1 is a bit of a stretch. Season 1 was a huge passion project with so many of the most talented animators on the planet, most of which didn't return for season 2.
@Mika yeah we can all wish but I doubt season 3 will be as good as season 1. I'm pretty sure alot of OG animators will come back though, and it will definitely be a great season (even if it's not quite on par with season 1).
i never watched opm until this year. I watched s1 and s2 back to back. season 2 still looked so good that I never even noticed the animation was different
People really need to stop sleeping on J.C Staff, the animation really isn't all that bad, it's an average animation style, the change just feels so bizzare because of the bar that Madhouse set, season 1 of OPM was a collaboration of nearly every amazing animator in the industry. LET JC STAFF COOK IN SEASON 3
My brother and I were just ranting about the unreasonable level of hate directed at season 2 and discussing the good and bad, and then we saw this video. Precisely all the elements we felt could use improvement presented with specific, reasonable, concrete points and appreciation for what it did great. Have a sub, my good man.
Thanks man, and no I don't use a microphone, I record using my smartphone, and no I don't use any form of audio editing (besides increasing the volume on premiere pro) although I used to do some form of audio work a while back, I don't anymore
The first time I saw one punch man, I didn't really notice that there was a quality dip in s2 lol. And then I go online and saw all the hate and was kinda confused. But you're right about people having unrealistic expectations lol. I have a feeling that the same thing will probably happen with JJK S2 as well tbh. There will be tons of good cuts and then a few bad ones and peeps will probably look at it the same way as OPM s2 And besides, the Konosuba movie looked amazing so JC staff are definitely good lol. Just that like you said, schedules kill everyone
So you are telling me jjk s2 would be hated now see my answer 👇 OPM S1 did so much good that s2 felt low whereas JJK s1 wasn't that good i mean it was good but not top level, so this season will be a banger 💯 I am fully sure about that because the trailer is also pretty awesome. This is my take
That will likely happen to a shorter extent as there will always be complainers. There likely won't be a animation quality dip as Mappa is still animating jjk unlike with opm which had a studio change.
I just finished watching s2 and thought it was great, sad there was no grand finale equivalent to s1 but i liked the focus on other heroes and there were plenty of fights. Im stoked for s3.
@ 2:45 "LO Butchering" happens when the schedule is inconcivable for the in-betweeners to do that many in-betweens, not really when 2nd Key isn't. 2nd Key are the people who do the genga for other people's LOs, because not all key animators do their own genga. Going for an ambitious sequence when you know the schedule wont support it is very counter intuitive.
@@ProbablyPretentious I mean sure depending on the circumstances, but its more often douga cant afford the time to focus on that cut rather than nigen.
If I had any annoyance with Season 2 it would be the sound effects. They really got their worth out of that punch sound effect they used almost every fight.
I personally had no idea what shit everyone was smoking when they said season 2 looked bad, imo it didn’t look any worse than season one, just had some different shading that I thought was actually pretty good
I just started down the One Punch Man rabbit hole on RUclips and everyone was saying that Season 2's animation looked bad. While I effeminately get a different feel and agree that the quality isn't on par with the first season, it didn't feel bad too me at all and I've been struggling to emphasize with the OPM community on this. I've seen shows animated badly and I wouldn't say that OPM Season 2 quite falls into that category.
Can you make a video covering Gundam Hathaway? That movie blew me away with its visuals and I believe it won animation awards in Japan (don’t quote me on that)
When I watched this season for the first time, I didn't mind the compositing on the metal too much, but I hated the fact that it's inconsistent when we take the amazing 3D models into notice, the Cocroach monster had this metalic texture fir some reason, but the centepides who are also bugs didn't (and thank God they don't). My biggest problem now is the compositing, and the mediocre colour choices, that just look like every other seasonal anime, I wouldn't mind this taht much, but they showed us how good thay can be with colour choices in episode 3, where the colouring plays perfectly into the scenery and enhances the strong drawings by Aoki qnd Takagi, it's just so nice to look at and it's a shame a lot of anime don't teally take the enwiroment the characters are in into consideration when choosing colours. Studio Mappa shaded and highlighted their cuts in natural light with consideration in AoT season 4, whinch always caught my attention and really enchanced the already great scenes for me.
Its good but people just got their expectations very high because of the first season’s animation. The first season was animated by the best coming together.
JC staff was completely swamped with like 10 different shows during that year, so no wonder scheduling was really bad. Geno's punches having the same sound as sticky fingers from jojo was completely hilarious to me though. The disappointment i had in OPM2 did drive me to become an animator so i'll thank the show for that at least.
Two or 3 years ago I finally decided to watch OPM as I began getting into anime. Personally, I never heard about the S2 controversy at the time. When I watched season 1 and 2 back to back, I enjoyed it all the way through. At least from my perspective, I never noticed a dip in animation quality because I enjoyed the show. The only thing I didn't really like was how the ending felt a little anti-climactic.
If you haven't watched Edens Zero and Danmachi Season 4 Part 2 especially, then you can never appreciate how good JC Staff really is. I didn't even see any reason to complain about season 2 cos' I knew it didn't have the same big names like season 1, so there's no point complaining. Thanks for making such a great video, it was a good 10 minutes of my day. Now let me take my leave without subscribing +1 sub bro. You deserve it. Love how well you were pronouncing the Japanese Names. That was good. 💪 Keep up the good work 🔥
The main issue with OPM season 2 is that its animation is inconsistent, not outright bad. There are plenty of banger sequences that end up getting offset by a number of wtf sequences which end up standing out far more due to them being mixed in with the good stuff. If it was more like a weekly series where the episodes with the ok to bad animation were completely separate from the episodes with the good to awesome animation I think people would have complained less. The constant shifting between both extremes in the same episodes I feel is what really pushed people over the edge.
There seems to be some confusion here, this vid has nothing to do with the bleach or the jjk video I made in the past lmao, this is it's own thing
I see I see
They be saying shit without watching the video lmao
Season 1 is still best
Loved the video, I still hate seeing all the sheep who say s2 is bad. Can we please see you cover demon slayer s3 ep 5 tho? 🙏🙏
@@yomom.isahoe he didn't said it wasn't lol
As u mentioned, the ghosting and motion blur, its what rly made it unenjoyable for me personally. I didnt know blu ray removed those, i should check it out. Great vid as always man!
And for manga readers complain *me aswell
Is that they cut lots of part in the manga. You will know if you read 84 chapters. (S2 content).
The clips look very good to me without the ghosting 😮
@@dadyadzana8902i have read the manga after s2 and i never bothering checking it out, can you tell me what did they cut?
@@profoundlad1 Bone man scene with the octopus, Goeketsu vs That dragon monster full fight, Garou grabbing tree and there's more but I forgot.
@@dadyadzana8902 they cut out lots of fights from the tournament of all things
I think the Centipede CGI still stands out to me the most, it's so well done! You're hard pressed to find 3D of that quality in anime releasing now hats off to the J.C Staff and Studio Moe 3D artists.
Also I wouldn't mind an ongoing series by you for both: "Actually Well Animated" and, "Not That Well Animated" videos. I think it's good for building a brand but nevertheless another banger
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Its insane how it has smears
I didn’t even know the centipede was cgi
i noticed that too, i was a bit on doubt when i saw it for the first time, that is a very well integrated CGI character, plus, it has really good fps variation, where it would do the 15 fps thing, but did increase it's fps on quick attacks and impact scenes with rich movements, something many implementations of CGI characters lack and ruins the blending in other animation works.
Ngl when i was like watching this for the first time i didnt know that was 3d, in some cases it looks 2d a llot
The dimming and ghosting really did it dirty
What is dimming and ghosting
@@AwakenedRookie dimming means making the screen darker,
and ghosting is blending frames into eachother making a ''trail or blur effect''
these techniques are done by tv stations in order to reduce risk of epilepsy
its a law in japan
to be honest while watching both seasons for the first time i didnt even knew it wasnt the same studio animating it
Honeslty jc staff are good, after watching danmachi s4, they have potential to deliver the high quality animation 😊
if only they did the same with index s3
@@brolybroly3836railgun season 3 was great tho
@@mankaiderking true
@@mankaiderking They sacrificed Index 3 and Accelerator to make RailGun T look great or something
Saying They have potential is kinda funny for a big studio. With good in-house talent
Even back then when I was on the "OPM S2 is badly animated" train, even then I couldn't deny the quality of those Garou sequences. And thank God you're praising the CGI centipede because I was so impressed by it when I saw it back then and wondered why nobody took notice of how high quality CG like this came from a show with such a bad schedule. Even with my disappointment, I hated the JCStaff slander going around because they made good stuff before, including the incredibly animated Konosuba movie, and they had a terrible schedule. I might not have been an expert, hell I'm not an expert now, but even I knew that people were being ridiculous with the bandwagoning.
My bored ass watched the entirety of One Punch Man and thought: "Shit, this is better than anything I watched"
I couldnt care less about if it's considered bad or good, the important thing is that I enjoyed every second of watching it
Wouldn't bad animation make it hard to enjoy?
Yeah but only if the animation genuinely sucks. It's still smooth and satisfying seeing the fights
@@Hypotenuse731couldn't agree more.
I can't lie I did not notice the "bad animation" until I saw it being pointed out
@@Hypotenuse731 You will have to erase Season 1 from your memories completely to somewhat enjoy Season 2. The style and Animation why isn't super bad like 7 deadly sin Season 3 bad, it's still bad. Having a few shining spot can't save a whole Season.
Kenichiro Aoki's contribution to OPM s2 is just like what Sunghoo Park did for JJK or Naotoshi Shida to One Piece
more like tu yong ce to one piece
@@aminebel4145 ikr. Tu Yong Ce's contribution to Wano arc is just... impossible. The amount of his work is unreal.
id say naotoshi shida is more dragon ball then one piece
Honestly season 2 was mostly let down by dumb decisions with some of the visuals. Some of the FX/overlays and speed lines looked really bad, the way most of the characters' skin was shaded with an orange gradient looked really weird, and the way they shaded metal looked terrible. However season 2 had so much going for it that people didn't really take note of, like the amazing CGI on some of the monsters, the banging soundtrack, overall tone and pacing and the animation which looked incredible in some scenes.
I dunno why everyone keeps going on and on about the metal shading.. am I the only one who liked it? I guess it’s because I like Matt finishes on metal lol
@@John-dd8kh I understand the vision, In theory it could've looked decent. But in my opinion the final result was bad, they basically just slapped some gradients on the metal parts, added some white highlights, blurred everything and called it a day. I think the claymore anime is a good example of what this kind of metal texture can look like when done well. But since they didn't have to time to do it well, they should have just gone the more simple route like in season 1.
With season 2 I actually had more issues with the sound/audio effects than the animation. It doesn't just look worse than S1, it SOUNDS worse in every way. I think for the past several years most anime coming out are using the exact same ultra-bass-boosted cheapo distorted sound effects that makes all fights sound identical (and I have a $400 subwoofer). So many season 2 fight scenes were let down by over-use of the same sound clip/sample on repeat. Probably another casualty of limited budget and production schedule.
The budget wasn't the problem. The higher budget dosen't matter much in anime. The time was so awful
THANK YOU. I rarely see people bring this up but the sound design did more harm to S2 than the animation. The animation itself was overall not bad, even getting pretty good at points. But the overuse of the same, cheap sounding effects over and over took me out of each fight, and the art/animation wasn't good enough to make up for it.
Exactly and i thought everyone is using better quality headphones to understand the real quality of sound effects xD. It is so terrible i don't know how people don't talk about that one sampled explosion sound 💥
It's always nice to see some appreciation for S2.
I heard everyone in the anime space was talking bad about ss2, but when I watched it, I find it perfectly fine and good. The fights are still epic, and the comedy still hits. I think the hype really got to everyone's heads and when that hype was not realized, they started to form a mob mentality and pull even the average anime watcher into it.
Yeah same here
S2 is still fucking great, but *compared to s1* it was a disappointment
I just didn’t think the story was interesting and knew the animation had a bit of a downgrade but I’ll probably watch it at some point
Nope, the anime left out way too much shit, it got what it deserved.
@@Ark_knight0 Lets not pretend that S1 was THAT perfect though, you can still find ALOT of still frame animaiton (or what detractors of S2 like to call "Powerpoint animaiton).
Examples off the top of my head:
Stinger vs Deep Sea Folk (letterally defeated them all with one still frame each).
Then Stinger was defeated by a still frame from Deep Sea King.
Saitama's hero test was filled with still frames and basic animation.
Tatsumaki defeated Ancient King by a fade in to black into a still frame.
There is a part in the meteor episode where we see a still frame of people trying to evacuate the city with sounds of people screaming and nothing being animated.
Point is, if oyu're gonna nitpick, you will find things to complain about.
Tbh, I agree. The animation is actually pretty good especially episode 10-12. I feel like as humans, we're more attracted to negativity and because of season 1, we couldn't help compare it to the original which was probably one of the best animated seasons.
Episode 4 when metal bat Faught the blue centipede was the first time I appreciated cgi animation.
That shit was CGI? I never even knew
@@Mrunknown_70Fr some of the best CGI work in Anime.
I kinda agree....people did hated it too much in 2019..
I just wanna say I love your channel man the editing is such high quality, your accent is satisfying af to listen to, and the topics you talk about are always so interesting. KEEP IT UP
Finally someone who likes the same studio that made prison school
Yeah and Prison school had great animation
And danmachi and eden zero
@@A1000-b9s And Railgun/Index
I'm gonna piss a lot of people, so be prepared....... I loved the Garo battle in the final few episodes of season 2 more than every single fight in season 1. The reason is one single word: Choreography.
that's a reasonable point. Saitamas fights can't be that good in terms of choreography... (except the boros fight, even though it was clear that siatama could have one-punched him) (I still love saitamas fights) since he just one-shots the enemy. garou has material arts and can actually use these. because he doesn't one hit everyone.
Nah S1 is was good at final fight if they removed those effects S2 would be decent
@@gaminginvirinch3339 S01 fights are more than just "Good" but I just don't like generic anime fights with OP characters. I mean for Gods sake, S01 fights felt like I'm watching a 1VS1 match from mortal combat so I kept waiting for a "Ready.... Fight!" announcement any second. I just love battles that have more than 2 combatants and where you can feel that all sides are struggling. In all of S01 fights did anyone even think for a second that Saitama might lose or at least struggle to win? No.
@@scythe9734i said animation wise i also want enemy and opponents throw Hands at each other but the effects and sound design doesn't want me to see it. I am getting just by hearing it.
@@scythe9734 that's the whole point of Saitama he's overpowered and no one could defeat him even someone like garou couldn't defeat him.
JC stuff has some really good talent. As long as S3 has a good schedule, I have zero doubt that it will have exellent animation (even if it doesn't quite reach the levels of S1). With how long S3 has been seemingly in production I would be genuinely surprised if they still messed it up.
And the Season 1 Cinematographer is also returning. Plus they almost had 2 years make 12 episodes and they could also have some big animators working on the project. I still didn't get it that why are people trying to be cool and judging season 3 by its trailer I mean it was just pre-animated and looked good specially with Cinematography. Imagine what the final product will be.
Yea OPM season 2 is really well animated...I never considered it bad the only problem for me is the ghosting effects... obviously it can not match the creativity season 1 has...it had almost every veteren animators of the industry but the actual problem comes when the so called anime youtubers or influences keeps on saying season 2 is poorly animated
dude they'll complain about pretty much anything if it's a big IP
Yeah, i'd say this is multiple times better than SDS S3 and of course too good in comparison to Ex Arm
OPM S1 had almost no madhouse staff. all free lancers, it was a passion project. so that’s why it’s arguably the greatest anime season ever. JC STAFF couldn’t have competed even with an unlimited budget. i’m hopeful for s3
Even though i don't remember much from S2 but Aoki cuts stand out the most i can even say he carries the whole season
But these two 5:21 and 8:19 cuts r the most memorable one for me
I don't even remember Opm S2 that much, I watched it a long ago,but god damn it wasn't really as bad as people made it to be.
Some of my favorite cuts were literally animated by one guy "Kenichiro Aoki" I didn't even knew about him(because I never looked for any production material of S2)
Seriously gotta respect Aoki for saving S2.
Also that Centipede Cgi is so good that at one point I thought it was 2d animation.
Too many people are either too butthurt at the idea that their favorite anime isnt as well animated as they think, or theyve bought into the idea that OPM season 2 is bad looking, to see that its actually very well animated for a hefty chunk of the season.
U forgot to mention one of aokis pros
The fact he can change artstyle and animation style complex depending of the sequence
Im really looking forward to season 3 and which studio is gonna handle it, there are so many awesome action sequences next arc I need to see them with season 1 quality but I know that's asking too much
Its told mappa gon make s3
@@uczika9623 Still not confirmed, and I feel it would've been if Mappa production was certain
@@artaum5635true but I still think it would be mappa knowing how they are handling anime at the moment it does make sense for them to pick up opm
Well, what are your thoughts about it being JCStaff again? Me personally, I’m excited
@@ilikerainbow.butimnotgay.4835 I didn't hate season 2 like other people and the trailer looks promising so Im still really excited. Im happy we're getting it at all honestly all this wait I thought it was cancelled
A lot of people don’t know what they are talking about and comment without watching the Video. It was an great Video keep up the work.
I had zero problems with how Season 2 looked like before going online to look for more OPM content after I watched S2. TBH I didn't have any problems with it afterwards either but it was interesting to see some people hating it so much. I was just happy it got made. I rather see all of OPM animated rather than seeing nothing. GIVE ME THAT TABLE FLIP.
Hoo boy I could already see the haters from your past videos getting pissed at how you praised OPM Season 2 thinking that you like the animation more compared to JJK , Bleach, etc when that’s far from the truth
finally someone with comonsense. i watched "a certain scientific railgun" recently... J.C:Staff could have done way better at OPM if they had more time like in Railgun 1,2 and 3
I put all the blame to Bandai for JC Staff's poor scheduling. Just how do you expect ANY studio to adapt Yusuke Murata's manga and do it justice in less than 8 months, let alone JC Staff? I've seen the studio and its in-house staffs are capable of when given way better scheduling (Danmachi, Railgun, Index, etc.), and they are not a low class anime studio.
wait, did bandai published/produced the series or somethin?
@@desuchanz4956 Yes. Bandai is the lead producer for the series..
I always thought it was weird how negative the second seasons reception was. The animation was pretty neat, and the emotional and comedic beats still hit. I do wish they had less of those machine gun punching scenes though, felt like it lowered the impact of that last Garou fight.
very nice take on season 2 of opm gonna sub to this channel,can't wait for more future takes
it was rlly just time constraints, which gives me a lot of hope for the upcoming season
No bro they're just bad just drop the anime and read the manga it so much better lol
@@aidanowo3146 Naw I'll read the manga and watch the anime
@@saminates2002Some people enjoy eating feces, but to each their own. You do you man!
another banger video from you, love this series!
The ghosting screwed over an unholy amount of cuts but even then the schedule was utterly abysmal. Considering the time between season 2's end and the wait for 3's beginning, with production having already started, I'm really REALLY hoping for a good production buffer that'll actually make for a consistent level of decent quality. Can't expect for lightning to strike again like it did for season 1 but I can dream they make it even halfway close.
Fucking thank you
It's genuinely saddening how so many people dismiss season 2 as "poorly animated" when it's pretty above average all things considered, and has some mad impressive moments of bombastic action sakuga that is genuinely very well done.
It's no season 1, obviously, but it's still worth enjoying
I just want to say that I was a Freshmen in high school when this came out and I like everyone else was a huge fan of Season 1. I was a huge OPM fanboy and I felt like I was in the minority of people who loved season 2. I was mesmerized by the the show itself even though the animation was jarring, not because of the change of studio but because of the motion blur. I knew right away they would fix this in the Blu-Ray. With that in mind I enjoyed the ride and watched every episode with excitement and joy. I loved OPM season 2 and even liked it more than season 1. I loved how action packed this season was and the characters in it. As for the metal look the show had I didn't mind it and even liked it.
I have since graduated high school a year ago and I have to say this was one of the best periods of my life so far. There's something about being excited for your favorite show and just enjoying it even with its small downsides. I own both Blu-rays of seasons 1/2 and I was thinking about rewatching it.
Edit: I forgot to mention that both Blu-Rays gave us extra episodes and even with how rough the release was for the TV version of OPM Season 2, I am still surprised that JC Staff was able to push out more mini episodes for us in the Blu-Rays and it goes to show much they care about the series.
One more thing is I want to show how excited I was with the fight scenes.
Garou: Every fight scene he was in was so epic and his theme "I'm a Monster" made it all the more better when he went on his rampage. I remember standing up and feeling the excitement rush through my body.
Genos: A lot of his fight scenes were quick but was attention grabbing and I loved it. I loved the quick animation for his scenes as he moved super fast.
Saitama: That final punch at the end of season 2 was so hype! I remember just cheering with the tension of the theme "Tank Top" playing as Centichoro started slithering towards King until Saitama dropped in last second and his theme "Seigi Shikkou" played during that final punch!
Suiryu vs Garou: Although this was Blu-ray exclusive, I loved the fight scene of these 2 legendary master martial artists beating each other up with their martial arts. I remember gasping and cheering when this happened as I liked these two characters.
Closing thoughts: I loved this show and think it's underrated. Although I have grown up in the last 4-5 years, I can't wait for season 3 and I hope I can get that kind of energy back. No matter how the show turns out, I know I'll enjoy it.
its so funny that s2 haters cant tell the difference between compositing and animation
It’s more really general audiences just lacking the terminology. There’s the general ‘taking a still frame and judging the quality of animation from it’ that happens every now and again.
I don’t think it’s not knowing the difference between them, it’s just not knowing the different words for everything.
When it comes to animation, everything is called animation even when it isn’t (I.E. in the case of shot composition, line art, colour, effects, etc)
The terms used are irrelevant. People have eyes and can clearly see that it looks like shit.
You don't need to be a chef to know that your food tastes like crap.
@@TheFracturedfuture true, but using the food analogy, there is a big difference between “it tastes bad” and “it looks bad”. They usually go together, but it’s at least worth knowing that much.
Of course, in visual media, you can only really look at it, but the food analogy was just a crude example. Big difference between the quality of a drawing vs the animation.
At the very least, when people say “the animation looks bad” it’s not too hard to know what they mean.
However, if you know anything about Ben 10, I just kinda find it a bit odd when people say Omniverse had bad animation when it actually has way more movement compared to previous series. What they really meant was the art style is bad, which is a whole different thing.
@@TheFracturedfuture anime consumers that are dissatisfied with the shows look are automatically shіttіng on animation, disrespecting the work of animators while most of season 2 complaints are related to compositing, sound design, and tv ghosting/dimming, all of which have nothing to do with animation
@@randomannoyance Completely wrong. Everything wrong with season 2 is the animation. The art and sound are OK, it's the animation that is horrible.
Forget everything he's saying, just watching the anime in the background reminds me of how good it looked
Garou hard carried season 2. The fight between him and all those heroes looked very good.
I honestly never understood the hate Season 2 got. Sure, there were problems, especially with that damn metal texture not meshing with the rest of the show, blur added because of tv regulations and too bassboosted sound effects. But when you looked at without nitpicking it was okay. There were some even very good moments. And story was still engaging, even for me as manga reader.
my only problem was the blur effect and the washed out bloom effect . im going to watch the blray version then
I predict that One punch man season 3 will look even better than 2 👀
Garou vs Orochi is gonna be interesting. near impossible fight to animate faithfully
My only problem with the animation was the excessive use of motion blur. Seeing the fights without the blur, I can appreciate the animation much more.
I personally never even noticed the difference until I heard people talking about it, it was all good to me and I just enjoyed it.
Another great video by spitting facts. Aoki deserves all the praise. GOAT of J. C staff.
it wasnt bad its just that in comparison with season 1 and the hype it was virtually IMPOSSIBLE to live up to the expectations.
I always had this thought with s2, not as crazy as s1 but had really great moments, I always enjoyed JC Staff anime, from the Index franchise(Railgun especially) Edens zero and Danmachi, it Aoki having one of my favourite styles, great video👍🏾
honestly, this was a very good animation analyzation.
Opm was the second anime i ever watched and i watched in a row i genuinely didn't thought of a anything wrong with it
But now that i look back yeah season 2 quality dropped off but still like it
YESSSSS FINALLLY I WAS WAITING FR THIS VIDEO. thank u so much for covering this man, great video!!!!!!
As long as it’s not seven deadly sins I think we can agree it’s good
I don't even know why people got mad in the first place, When i watching season 2 back in the day i literally didn't notice anything wrong with the animation, it is just alright, nothing to write home about but nothing that will make you throw up seeing it.
Thank you!! It seemed as if I was the only one who believed this!
Just saw some of the comments,why tf are people relating this video with "Not that well animated series"
Just as I suspected larger audience = dumb takes, stupid questions and annoying mfs.
Whatever man it's still nothing compared to toxicity on Twitter
I was very mad at season 2 for not looking like season 1 but I didn't realize how much of season 2 actually looked fairly decent and even great very great video
Watch the video first people, he never said OPM S2 was better than any of those, he just said that is was nicely animated and that the hate it got was really undeserve. Its the complete opposite of the other vids where they get highly praised but have solid-good animation. OPM S2 has solid animation but terrible amounts of hate
Look, I'm going to be honest, if it wasn't for the lack of time they had, the second season would have been better than the first, no cap.
I'm sure it could've looked better but saying it would be as good as season 1 is a bit of a stretch. Season 1 was a huge passion project with so many of the most talented animators on the planet, most of which didn't return for season 2.
@@EdenHamilton True
@Mika yeah we can all wish but I doubt season 3 will be as good as season 1. I'm pretty sure alot of OG animators will come back though, and it will definitely be a great season (even if it's not quite on par with season 1).
@Mika yeahhh I hope so, there a lot of panels like that in opm season 3.
Surprisingly J.C Staff's CGI for OPM S2 was actually really good, i didn't actually notice it was cgi at the first watch.
Watch the video. I think it's outsourced
@@A1000-b9sit isn't.
JC Staff better not fuck Season 3 up
Especially when you look at the Blu-Ray/Uncut Version
i never watched opm until this year. I watched s1 and s2 back to back. season 2 still looked so good that I never even noticed the animation was different
I still go back for that Garou vs A Class fight. That whole thing looked gorgeous
People really need to stop sleeping on J.C Staff, the animation really isn't all that bad, it's an average animation style, the change just feels so bizzare because of the bar that Madhouse set, season 1 of OPM was a collaboration of nearly every amazing animator in the industry. LET JC STAFF COOK IN SEASON 3
My brother and I were just ranting about the unreasonable level of hate directed at season 2 and discussing the good and bad, and then we saw this video. Precisely all the elements we felt could use improvement presented with specific, reasonable, concrete points and appreciation for what it did great.
Have a sub, my good man.
loved the vid. also i have a quuestion- which microphone do you use and do yo add a de-esser filter in ur voiceover?
Thanks man, and no I don't use a microphone, I record using my smartphone, and no I don't use any form of audio editing (besides increasing the volume on premiere pro) although I used to do some form of audio work a while back, I don't anymore
Oh my god someone finally said it !!!
The first time I saw one punch man, I didn't really notice that there was a quality dip in s2 lol.
And then I go online and saw all the hate and was kinda confused. But you're right about people having unrealistic expectations lol.
I have a feeling that the same thing will probably happen with JJK S2 as well tbh. There will be tons of good cuts and then a few bad ones and peeps will probably look at it the same way as OPM s2
And besides, the Konosuba movie looked amazing so JC staff are definitely good lol. Just that like you said, schedules kill everyone
So you are telling me jjk s2 would be hated now see my answer
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OPM S1 did so much good that s2 felt low whereas JJK s1 wasn't that good i mean it was good but not top level, so this season will be a banger 💯 I am fully sure about that because the trailer is also pretty awesome. This is my take
fax, i was confused about people hating the animation so much.
That will likely happen to a shorter extent as there will always be complainers. There likely won't be a animation quality dip as Mappa is still animating jjk unlike with opm which had a studio change.
Idk why but I had a better time understanding what's happening during the fights in season 2 compared to season 1. Also Speed Line Backgrounds :)
the fact that the animators had 6 months to make the show and it still is watchable is insane
This is what I'm saying. People only trash on JC because their standard is season 1.
nice copium JC is trash.
@@Jayfym912 My copium is laced with truth.
I just finished watching s2 and thought it was great, sad there was no grand finale equivalent to s1 but i liked the focus on other heroes and there were plenty of fights. Im stoked for s3.
Season 2's major flaw was robbing us of the terminator impact frame.
S2 is a 7/10 but it got underrated because S1 is 9.8/10
I'd still prefer season 1 animation, but it's funny that the metal was such a big deal for people because I liked it.
@ 2:45 "LO Butchering" happens when the schedule is inconcivable for the in-betweeners to do that many in-betweens, not really when 2nd Key isn't. 2nd Key are the people who do the genga for other people's LOs, because not all key animators do their own genga.
Going for an ambitious sequence when you know the schedule wont support it is very counter intuitive.
I think it's a bit of both, cuz needlessly complex LO often ends up being quite rough, meaning more work for the 2nd ka people
@@ProbablyPretentious I mean sure depending on the circumstances, but its more often douga cant afford the time to focus on that cut rather than nigen.
i would love to hear your thoughts on heavenly delusion
If I had any annoyance with Season 2 it would be the sound effects. They really got their worth out of that punch sound effect they used almost every fight.
I personally had no idea what shit everyone was smoking when they said season 2 looked bad, imo it didn’t look any worse than season one, just had some different shading that I thought was actually pretty good
Back then i was watching s2 the first time it aired i didn’t even know they switched studios
Season 2 is well animated, but Season 1 was godly animated. OPM fans just been getting fed too well in Season 1.
fun fact, MAPPA is the animator of season 1 ( aka MadHouse )
@@BleekXDMadhouse* not Mappa
@@Jayfym912 Yes, Madhouse, but its creator went on to make Mappa , taking most of his animators with him. Basically Mappa too
Bro is dubbing this video from the Microsoft tech support office.
My favourite part about season 2 was where there was actual animation, I really enjoyed the whole 2 minutes of animation 😊
Just found out about you love your commentary 😂❤
I just started down the One Punch Man rabbit hole on RUclips and everyone was saying that Season 2's animation looked bad. While I effeminately get a different feel and agree that the quality isn't on par with the first season, it didn't feel bad too me at all and I've been struggling to emphasize with the OPM community on this. I've seen shows animated badly and I wouldn't say that OPM Season 2 quite falls into that category.
Can you make a video covering Gundam Hathaway? That movie blew me away with its visuals and I believe it won animation awards in Japan (don’t quote me on that)
You shouldn’t start with Gundam Hathaway. It’s great, but you need to see the other shows first
When I watched this season for the first time, I didn't mind the compositing on the metal too much, but I hated the fact that it's inconsistent when we take the amazing 3D models into notice, the Cocroach monster had this metalic texture fir some reason, but the centepides who are also bugs didn't (and thank God they don't). My biggest problem now is the compositing, and the mediocre colour choices, that just look like every other seasonal anime, I wouldn't mind this taht much, but they showed us how good thay can be with colour choices in episode 3, where the colouring plays perfectly into the scenery and enhances the strong drawings by Aoki qnd Takagi, it's just so nice to look at and it's a shame a lot of anime don't teally take the enwiroment the characters are in into consideration when choosing colours. Studio Mappa shaded and highlighted their cuts in natural light with consideration in AoT season 4, whinch always caught my attention and really enchanced the already great scenes for me.
Its good but people just got their expectations very high because of the first season’s animation. The first season was animated by the best coming together.
It really wasnt as bad as people made it out to be, they were acting like it was the same level as that escanor vs meliodas fight
I have a suggestion do a animation breakdown of boruto ep 189
The problem isn't really the quality of s2. It's just I think people expected the quality to be higher after the s1.
Honestly the compositing and coloring is what throws me off for this season.
But, you don't have worry because the season 1 Character designer and Cinematographer is returning in season 3.
some people said about that JCstaff got saitama chin and garou back muscle wrong
JC staff was completely swamped with like 10 different shows during that year, so no wonder scheduling was really bad.
Geno's punches having the same sound as sticky fingers from jojo was completely hilarious to me though.
The disappointment i had in OPM2 did drive me to become an animator so i'll thank the show for that at least.
What the other projects has to do with The schedule 💀. The schedule is defined by the production committee
if this season just had a more manga accurate artstyle/ better colour palette then it would of been praised
Remember Garou's upwards sweating? I do 😂🤣🤣
Dis was really something people cryed about wow
Two or 3 years ago I finally decided to watch OPM as I began getting into anime. Personally, I never heard about the S2 controversy at the time. When I watched season 1 and 2 back to back, I enjoyed it all the way through. At least from my perspective, I never noticed a dip in animation quality because I enjoyed the show. The only thing I didn't really like was how the ending felt a little anti-climactic.
If you haven't watched Edens Zero and Danmachi Season 4 Part 2 especially, then you can never appreciate how good JC Staff really is.
I didn't even see any reason to complain about season 2 cos' I knew it didn't have the same big names like season 1, so there's no point complaining.
Thanks for making such a great video, it was a good 10 minutes of my day.
Now let me take my leave without subscribing
+1 sub bro. You deserve it.
Love how well you were pronouncing the Japanese Names. That was good. 💪 Keep up the good work 🔥
They had like 6 months. So this is impressive. Also Aoki is The Goat🐐
The main issue with OPM season 2 is that its animation is inconsistent, not outright bad. There are plenty of banger sequences that end up getting offset by a number of wtf sequences which end up standing out far more due to them being mixed in with the good stuff.
If it was more like a weekly series where the episodes with the ok to bad animation were completely separate from the episodes with the good to awesome animation I think people would have complained less. The constant shifting between both extremes in the same episodes I feel is what really pushed people over the edge.
interesting. season 3 comes soon