You guys @ AV Nirvana really need to do a proper 'Beginners Guide'. One where you actually record measuring & using REW in a real HT setup & while going through the step by step process with 'pause & explain' kind of tutorial. THAT WOULD BE OF GREAT HELP TO MANY !!!!! Hope you guys consider doing one. Cheers !
That would be really helpful. A step by step of using REW to take measurements and then what changes to a system need to be made then remeasure to understand the improvements
Audio Judgement has a tutorial on UDEMY that explains step by step how to test floor speakers, crossovers,etc. Get it when it's on sale, I got it for $13 each class.
There is not waste in every single nano second. Grateful to have such material available for us. Confident and great knowledge of what you are telling. Congratulations
We beginners need a step by step slow real video(not a masterclass with powerpoint) showing us how to get the best speaker/ studio monitor position using REW please.👍 I ve had this free software for too long😑
I'm a beginner too and find it hard to understand but I think the key is to just break it down into bitesize chunks. Pausing the video where necessary and just studying that particular portion until you have it committed to memory. Then move on to the next portion.... Etc etc... That's how I'm doing it anyway...
Maybe you should change your domain. Is not so hard but you need to have years behind working with music and sound engineering. Beginner in this domain = wizard (for mare mortals).
Yes, i have always been wanting to get one of these, but we need a REW and Mini DSP beginners guide for DUMMIES. Like super total starting guide for us noobs. I dont think my Computer has an HDMI either.
Interesting that he says take multiple recordings with small placement changes in the listening position but then says don't bother taking readings of the left and right speakers seperately or even both. Small variations in a room can cause fairly big differences in left and right speaker readings. In fact most of the well known studio acoustic engineers often insist on multiple speaker readings but not multi positional readings, unless you have say a listening couch or something similar. 🤔
Matt, when I finished my basement I applied double drywall on the ceiling and a rockwool (stone wool fire insulation that also works a sound insulation). When I played my system upstairs, I was shocked by the difference in sound. Does that qualify as room treatment that's 1 foot deep? It's behind the wall and it's preventing the basement from interacting with the upstairs room.
Hi Sir, Wish someone/Master can help me 1. using REW to run "Measure" and mute the REW test signal, and then DUT play white noise. does it make sense for measuring? 2. based on item1, the measurement results are different with running RTA. the level from RTA is much lower than running "Measure" as item1. does it make sense?
While this may look like a through explanation to people that already understand REW, it leaves more questions than answers when is all said and done. I found it interesting that nobody in his class stopped him to answer a question about the process or the hookups or even which tabs to select when doing this. This is so much more complicated when you’re not familiar with the lingo and even computers. I’ll bet at least someone in that room wanted to know for example where you stand when performing these tone sweeps. Are there any other cords/connections needed? I’m sure the guy giving the tutorial tried his best but I also don’t think he understood what beginner means. A beginner needs to really start from the beginning.
Hello, thanks for the video, I'm a complete beginner, can you tell me how To link the laptop to the avr via hdmi, please, i've got the DENON 4500H and not sure which slot to use, thanks, mike
I have a neumann KM84i from the 1980s, it's extremely flat, also a neumann tlm193, do you think that would be appropritate for measuring my room? I come from a pro audio engineer background and am trying to improve my room acoustics.
No you need a omni directional mic. Just buy a ecm8000 for 30 euro's. If you want to get very precise you can send the mic for calibration. Every single ecm8000 will have a unique response,
@@timandtheocean sorry but I won't touch behringer products, I'm sure you are well meaning but if each mic is different then they cannot be anywhere near good enough for this purpose.
All mic from all brands are different if they are the same product. Some mics are individually tested in a special chamber and delivered with a response graph. Matched pairs are choosen on the measured response as well.
The real reason NOT to measure a seating position next to the left or right hand side wall is that “ If you did, then you would be outside the boundaries of your front main speakers” which in reality is a silly place to be listening to music or watching a movie anyway. With auto eq systems that are any good, there should be no such thing as a crappy seat because seating against any wall to left and right should not even be there to begin with. ALWAYS, keep your measurements within the boundaries of your front mains and DON,T go any wider no matter how many measurements your calibration equipment can take. Sometimes less measurements can mean more in terms of results.
Thank you for doing this, next time you do it, just stay on the power point presentation as much as possible, unless you are showing something that the audience need to see, its easier to follow when you are talking about something on the power point presentation and we can see the power point instead of seeing you talk thanks again
This was a great birds eye view of REW. Do you have any sources for a more in-depth “advanced” look at the software and application of it? I’m an audio engineer (live sound), and I’m interested in learning more about room acoustics/treatment/analysis as a whole (I can’t do live sound forever). I use Smaart Di v2, but it doesn’t offer an IR mode and I don’t feel like coughing up almost another $600 to upgrade to v8 right now. Enter REW. I can’t believe this software is free. The feature set is pretty impressive. I just need a little guidance! Any help is appreciated!
why is it recommended to test using the output of only one speaker? This method has been recommended elsewhere, so this is how I conducted my first rounds of tests. However, despite finding a more ideal monitoring/listening position--according to these measurements--I was hearing very inconsistent bass response in some music I was familiar with. It wasn't until I started testing with both speakers that I was able to see the huge and wide peak around 60 Hz that I was hearing. So just to clarify, my experience seems to suggest that using both speakers to play back the measurement sweep might produce more accurate results than just using a single speaker. Is this wrong?
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You guys @ AV Nirvana really need to do a proper 'Beginners Guide'. One where you actually record measuring & using REW in a real HT setup & while going through the step by step process with 'pause & explain' kind of tutorial. THAT WOULD BE OF GREAT HELP TO MANY !!!!!
Hope you guys consider doing one. Cheers !
That would be really helpful. A step by step of using REW to take measurements and then what changes to a system need to be made then remeasure to understand the improvements
Audio Judgement has a tutorial on UDEMY that explains step by step how to test floor speakers, crossovers,etc. Get it when it's on sale, I got it for $13 each class.
There is not waste in every single nano second. Grateful to have such material available for us. Confident and great knowledge of what you are telling. Congratulations
We beginners need a step by step slow real video(not a masterclass with powerpoint) showing us how to get the best speaker/ studio monitor position using REW please.👍
I ve had this free software for too long😑
Thanks for stopping by and watching @Larry M, @TrollhammerX, and @Lance Hizon! Hope you guys swing by AV NIRVANA and introduce yourselves!
The old fashion of the storyteller, why he never demonstrated and showed the way how to operate it, and how to solve the problems.
This is great, but not sure its a "beginner's guide". Source: am a beginner, didn't understand half of this.
I'm a beginner too and find it hard to understand but I think the key is to just break it down into bitesize chunks.
Pausing the video where necessary and just studying that particular portion until you have it committed to memory.
Then move on to the next portion.... Etc etc...
That's how I'm doing it anyway...
Maybe you should change your domain. Is not so hard but you need to have years behind working with music and sound engineering. Beginner in this domain = wizard (for mare mortals).
Pot & Kettle definitely not for beginners..just saying. Plus,If we could see the darn screen it would of helped..sorry..
@@neptunevibe maybe you should catch covid
Thank you for helping out beginners on how to use REW.
Diaphragmatic rubber to create bass dampening and absorption works well.
Yes, i have always been wanting to get one of these, but we need a REW and Mini DSP beginners guide for DUMMIES. Like super total starting guide for us noobs. I dont think my Computer has an HDMI either.
Interesting that he says take multiple recordings with small placement changes in the listening position but then says don't bother taking readings of the left and right speakers seperately or even both. Small variations in a room can cause fairly big differences in left and right speaker readings. In fact most of the well known studio acoustic engineers often insist on multiple speaker readings but not multi positional readings, unless you have say a listening couch or something similar. 🤔
Matt, when I finished my basement I applied double drywall on the ceiling and a rockwool (stone wool fire insulation that also works a sound insulation). When I played my system upstairs, I was shocked by the difference in sound. Does that qualify as room treatment that's 1 foot deep? It's behind the wall and it's preventing the basement from interacting with the upstairs room.
Fantastic stuff here. I desperately needed this info.
Thank you. Great info... Would love to see more case histories.
Larry M Agreed. I would love to see some case histories and the process unfold in situ.
Please demonstrate how to connect and do the measurements.
Pl suggest YAPO can use instead of Mike with laptop if yes Pl guide how to do it
Hello I am new to REW and trying to join the AV Nirvana site but having issues. Is there someone I can talk to about that? Thank you, David
it's a longshot but it'd be great if there was a link to the slidedeck so we can see it clearer while he's talking.
But wouldent Waterfall give you the RT60? For studies that's an important aspect isn't it?
What about 5.1.4 Setups? Can I also play a sweep dedicated to one of the ceiling speakers (Auro layout)?
I'm fairly sure Dirac Live is the only solution to that :l
I know I'm late but you could disconnect all your other speakers and do a sweep of the height channels.
Great information. Thanks for sharing!
sir i am from india and need your help . I bought pb 2000 pro and not performing in my room 11x11x10 what to do> i just unboxed my umik1 mic yesterday
@@moneyzonetrader great question, ask it here: www.avnirvana.com/forums/subwoofers.35/
More analysis videos would be excellent, especially with use cases that can be solved by room treatments
Thanks a lot for the informative video. Is there a way to get the slide deck (a PDF copy or something)?
Are CM6206 soundcard can be use for measurement ?
Hi Sir,
Wish someone/Master can help me
1. using REW to run "Measure" and mute the REW test signal, and then DUT play white noise. does it make sense for measuring?
2. based on item1, the measurement results are different with running RTA. the level from RTA is much lower than running "Measure" as item1. does it make sense?
Great video, thanks for all the useful information
Hey Brant, hope to see you on the forum!
Great video!! Thanks for sharing.
While this may look like a through explanation to people that already understand REW, it leaves more questions than answers when is all said and done. I found it interesting that nobody in his class stopped him to answer a question about the process or the hookups or even which tabs to select when doing this. This is so much more complicated when you’re not familiar with the lingo and even computers. I’ll bet at least someone in that room wanted to know for example where you stand when performing these tone sweeps. Are there any other cords/connections needed? I’m sure the guy giving the tutorial tried his best but I also don’t think he understood what beginner means. A beginner needs to really start from the beginning.
Hello, thanks for the video, I'm a complete beginner, can you tell me how To link the laptop to the avr via hdmi, please, i've got the DENON 4500H and not sure which slot to use, thanks, mike
Mike Cross Plug the HDMI cable into the HDMI jack on your laptop and the HDMI jack on the front of your DENON AVR.
I have a neumann KM84i from the 1980s, it's extremely flat, also a neumann tlm193, do you think that would be appropritate for measuring my room? I come from a pro audio engineer background and am trying to improve my room acoustics.
No you need a omni directional mic. Just buy a ecm8000 for 30 euro's. If you want to get very precise you can send the mic for calibration. Every single ecm8000 will have a unique response,
@@timandtheocean sorry but I won't touch behringer products, I'm sure you are well meaning but if each mic is different then they cannot be anywhere near good enough for this purpose.
All mic from all brands are different if they are the same product. Some mics are individually tested in a special chamber and delivered with a response graph. Matched pairs are choosen on the measured response as well.
Thanks for the information! It's a great tool indeed!
You missed a huge opportunity to say don't go chasing waterfalls.
The real reason NOT to measure a seating position next to the left or right hand side wall is that “ If you did, then you would be outside the boundaries of your front main speakers” which in reality is a silly place to be listening to music or watching a movie anyway. With auto eq systems that are any good, there should be no such thing as a crappy seat because seating against any wall to left and right should not even be there to begin with. ALWAYS, keep your measurements within the boundaries of your front mains and DON,T go any wider no matter how many measurements your calibration equipment can take. Sometimes less measurements can mean more in terms of results.
Thank you for doing this, next time you do it, just stay on the power point presentation as much as possible, unless you are showing something that the audience need to see, its easier to follow when you are talking about something on the power point presentation and we can see the power point instead of seeing you talk thanks again
This was a great birds eye view of REW. Do you have any sources for a more in-depth “advanced” look at the software and application of it?
I’m an audio engineer (live sound), and I’m interested in learning more about room acoustics/treatment/analysis as a whole (I can’t do live sound forever). I use Smaart Di v2, but it doesn’t offer an IR mode and I don’t feel like coughing up almost another $600 to upgrade to v8 right now. Enter REW. I can’t believe this software is free. The feature set is pretty impressive. I just need a little guidance! Any help is appreciated!
Hey Jeremy, swing by our site and visit the official REW help forum... there might be some folks there to help answer your questions.
anyone know what that other software he used is called?
Powerpoint?
@@maxgasse8100 lmao obviously not, it'd have to watch the entire video again to tell you
@@stavroshouiris i believe he mentioned Audacity. But, I cannot remember another software other than REW and Audacity in this video.
Using a integrated amp without HDMI so how do I connect a PC?
Appreciate the effort, but this is more of a The WHAT REW CAN DO vs The HOW. Plus 13 minutes to get past the MIC ppt.... :/
Not helpful for beginners..sorry,just not!
All that acoustic treatment and they can't oil the door hinge!
Sólo faltan subtítulos :( jaja Saludos!!
Sorry - this is neither a guide nor made for beginners.
this makes no sense
full of information but quite useless information for beginners
why is it recommended to test using the output of only one speaker?
This method has been recommended elsewhere, so this is how I conducted my first rounds of tests. However, despite finding a more ideal monitoring/listening position--according to these measurements--I was hearing very inconsistent bass response in some music I was familiar with.
It wasn't until I started testing with both speakers that I was able to see the huge and wide peak around 60 Hz that I was hearing.
So just to clarify, my experience seems to suggest that using both speakers to play back the measurement sweep might produce more accurate results than just using a single speaker. Is this wrong?