ATV Television - Polaris RZR S vs Can Am Commander 1000
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That is an unfair comparison because the rzr is specifically made for sport riding and the commander is specifically designed for utility use. If your going to do a comparison with the rzr do the rzr vs.maverick.
I work for a rental company who owns both machines, and for the most part, this video is right. What they don't say is that the welds on the Polaris are junk, we've had to do repairs many times. Also, it's Can Am's first year with the Commander, so there are bugs to work out (false trouble codes, jerky transmission). However, we put the Can Am and RSR S 800 in a drag race on pavement and the race was over in the first 50 feet.
They should compare a Ranger to the Commander.
The driver of the Commander breeaked just as he approached the all wheel drive test, making it more difficult to progress over the slope. Compared to the Polaris which took the slope on a roll making it easier to climb over. This video segment is definitely sponsored and funded by Polaris!
I like how it was immediately super obvious which one would come out on top...
I have a rzr s and I do like it my parents had a commander x I could definently tell it had more power the rzr is better for tight trails and uneven terrain it just handles better but they are two different machines meant for different general purposes and both amazingly fun to drive. Now they have a maverick and I won't even compare my 800s to that
@ATVTVCOM I usually skip over the boring chatter at the beginning. I thank you for showing me the error of my ways
the RZR S is the sport version but the commander was not, the sport commander (the MAVERICK) VS the RZR S would be the best way to go
everyone keeps saying compare it to the maverick, well the maverick did not exist when this video came out. however Polaris loves doing these compare vids when it has a leg up, the xp1 has been out for 8 months now, the maverick for over a year, still no compare vid from Polaris, what are they afraid of? the xp1 is worse than the xp900, all the hype about it being the fastest sxs, its just that... hype. this compare vid should have been against a ranger not the rzr s. can ams products are built with far more quality.
Why doesn't Polaris make another comparison of the Maverick vs their RZR 1000?
Great question!
I suppose Polaris can do whatever they want, and if Can Am wanted to make a video they could compare the Maverick to the Ranger diesel if they wanted - it's all just sales hype. ;-)
This comparison is invalid. The Commander is Can-am's version of the Polaris Ranger. If you would have compared the Maverick and RZR you would have completely different results
Would you people quit talkin crap on atvtv!?!? This guy works pretty hard to post all these vids and so what if he likes Polaris! And yes this is a Polaris video and NO it's not an advertisement so shut up all you whiners!
even though stats and your tests show the rzr beats the commander the commander still looks more fun to ride
Honestly my main gripe with the commander is the front visco lok diff. They have been known to take their time to lock.
It's a POLARIS video! I said it in the beginning and the end. Did you even watch it?
for all of you commenting saying it should have been the commander vs ranger you are right but, when this came out can am made the commander to compete with the rzr at the time. Also to comply with what i said about the commander being produced to compete with the rzr when can am released it they called it a SPORT utility vehicle. I believe they still refer to it as that also. But some other are right also the video polaris made might be a little biased but if you are a can am fan or distributor would you not be biased. At the end of the day at the time this video was made the commander was built to compete with the rzr.
the funniest part about this is the 4wd demonstration, the polaris hits the ramp with some speed, the commander comes to a dead stop
I like how Polaris puts down the commanders rear trailing arm suspension then use it on the rzr xp....
I just bought a new '14 SXS. Looked at the RZR S and it seemed OK. Felt cheap though. Moved on to the CAN AM commander 800 and it was no comparison. The CAN AM is far superior in quality, which is why I bought the commander 800.
I want to see a pull off between the two....... Commander all of the way for sheer power.
Valid point there, i missed the disclosure of that info in the video.
Competition always brings a better product to the consumer in the end. That, was very big of said company, giving that info out about there product, "being of lesser quality".
I see Can Am in a different light now, thank you for the feedback, and you time
.I had a rzr with 3400 miles. This was all in one year. If i didn't have warranty on it. It would of ben expensive. I replace bushing all around twice plus both rear shock once. Primary clutch came apart and took the secondary out, rear and front cvt cover and belt. Replace front drive shaft. The up keep is nut I had to grease it every 200 miles so it would keep the a harm tight. If not you feel it in the steering. I had to clean the air filter box because oil would seep in to it.
@revis23 Here's how it works ;-) The RZR owner goes hunting, gets up into the high country, makes his shot, then waits for the Commander owner to get up there just as season ends. But the Commander will gladly haul the Elk out because it makes him look good. Meanwhile the RZR guy's down signing up for his next season's tags.
The RZR is a sport based UTV the Commander is a all around vehicle. Polaris made this video to be focused on sport this really proves that Polaris built a sport UTV and Cam Am made a all around UTV.
Commander is clearly a sport/utility model a more reasonable comparison would have been maverick vs razer. Sport vs sport.
im a polaris guy but this is kind of like comparing a maverick vs a ranger 900
Keep in mind when this was done and who did it .
thats true
I am in a wheelchair and before my accident I owned a outlander 800 and a raptor 660. I sold my sports quad and kept the utility. Purely because it was so much fun. On outrides sports quads really battle to keep up. And I had to constantly rescue them in mud and rocks etc. Now I enjoy my side by side for same reason. The wheelchair guy winch and rescue the sports guys.
Although we've driven a Commander, we've never had one long enough to do a full test. Which one will suit you best will depend on what you plan to do with it...How you ride and where you ride...
witch one has the best ride and most comfort for a person over 6' tall
I have owned 3 polaris' and the crap I put them through was a lot more than people would even think about mud, jumping and working I used the to their full potential started with ranger then ranger 4 then rzr 4 seater and each of them served their purpose but never lasted me more than 2 years each, so I picked up a commander and minus the 4 seater option, huge negative, hasn't steered me wrong yet it's been one year and only major repair is CV boots. No mods on any by the way.
i like how buddy drove the commander about 10 mph faster on the bumps
That would be a great topic for discussion ;-)
What do we base that on? Products, reliability?
1. Suzuki
2. Yamaha
3. Honda
@leaf16nut But we are glad you've shown enthusiasm for that ;-)
@DanoD39 Great comment. I don't think anyone has summed this up better!
@Woodbogger13 I'd say you're right about the RZR, but I'd say the Commander is a crossover between full sport like the RZR and full utility like the Ranger or Mule.
@baseballboy725 That's the dealers not the manufacturers. Dealers often sell many different brands. The dealership we use sells every manufacturer except Arctic Cat!
I think they might have one on their website.....but not sure.
@gp40mc Not sure. It does look like a pretty good unit and would be good to test, but with the economy (and this industry specifically) test units are very hard to come by.
I guess you guessed wrong! We have no sponsors, our income comes only from the ads on our website and here on You Tube. We didn't do a comparison because we were too honest in our previous evaluations of Can Am machines and they will no longer supply us with test units. Now Polaris has done the same thing...
If any media outlet says something the manufacturers don't like they stop sending test machines. So remember that whenever you are reading or watching ANYBODY's tests ;-)
This is on the Commander Limited "Front and rear Air Control Suspension (ACS) with FOX Racing Shox∞ HPG piggyback shock"
Thanks for the info. I'm new to the UTV scene so I wasn't really sure.
Great analogy - the really big apples that everyone wants to to showcase are often lacking in good taste and quality.
Try to keep a belt on the Polaris,crappy clutching. My friend went through at least 12 belts and clutch kit put on by the dealership. Finally all new clutches,by then had enough of going back and forth to the shop for many other problems.He even tried the more expensive belt (180.00) to no avail.He bought it new and sold it. Now he has a Commander,and says he just loves it.
just bought a 1000 xT. Had a chance to buy a RZR 2 years ago, but bought the Rhino instead. I need the the tilt box option and RZR never offered it. 1000 xT will be my UTV for alot of years.
As good as this comparison is, the correct commander isn't used. The 1000XT is a great machine, but a more direct competitor for the RZR S would be the 1000 X. The fox racing shox and the the front sway bar would make a huge difference in all these test. I am yet to see a comparison of these two models other than in a drag race.
And a good one! Especially compared to mr. open mind above..... Polaris 1, Polaris 2, and Polaris 3
I do have to add i am buying a RZR 800s LE soon to add to the stable. I will let the forum world know if i have any issues with it as i have in the past with other machines. See you on the forums my fellow off-road enthusiasts!
@Janusha I think it goes even deeper than that.....
Visco lok sounds like a good idea on paper.....but for how long does the coupling fluid retain its viscosity before diff. lock engagement is affected and slowed? Many vehicles are great new......it's the miles that separate quality from junk.
If you paid attention at the beginning I mentioned that it was Polaris that did this. Should kind of explain everything ;-)
Thank you...We try to be honest and open with our reviews and comments. Perhaps that is one reason the folks at Can Am no longer send us any of their machines to test. Some manufacturers only want reviews that they might as well have written as an advertisement ;-)
Another video sponsored by polaris...
Not sponsored by, made by! If you would have paid attention to what I said in the beginning of the video I pointed out that this video was MADE by Polaris. I simply thought it was interesting enough to put up.
I remember watching this video years ago. It was a mismatched comparison even then. Granted Can-Am hadn't released the Maverick yet but the machines were so different that they weren't really in the same class. The Teryx, even the new ones, would have all the same faults the the Commander had and Kawasaki claims its sporty too. Kawasaki needs to build a real sport utv to compete. The Pioneer 1000 would be less sporty than that dated Rzr 800s too. The Rzr is simply lighter than any utility based utv. The Rhino was the only thing comparable in weight back then and it was not a sporty machine at all. Even today, 5+years later, take any utility based utv no matter the displacement or power and it wouldn't keep up with a Rzr 800s because of greater size and weight. But the 800s became obsolete because the competition came up with more powerful 60" machines so Polaris had to put a 900cc engine and then finally a 1000cc engine in it to compete.
@geech08 Thanks. We're glad you enjoy our reviews! We have tried and tried to get a Commander from Can Am. Yes, we could get one from our friends at Jorgensen's but why would we want to review a machine that the manufacture isn't willing to give us? If we don't like it, it looks like sour grapes. If we do, we reward Can Am for not helping us. No win situation.
@TheMontanaDave Actually, remember the RZR's engine is right behind the seats. The bed could dump I suppose but Polaris designed the RZR for trail riding not working.
This comparison is totally biast and very unfair!
@khower well that and this video was made and released by polaris in 2010 when the commander was released, the XP and Commander both can go about75 mph but the XP can actually turn at that speed lol so yes it really would be quite a landslide haha
As much as I agree that this video is fake, I do have a few replies to your problems:
2) The RZR has a lower center of gravity, but the S package has more ground clearance
3) The S isn't loaded. The "loaded" ones have special graphics, it used to be a big Walker Evans sticker, but this year I think they call it the "XC" package.
Do you think you will ever test the Gator XUV 825i? It looks like its the first gator to ever be able to give something like a Ranger or a Rhino a run for its money in terms of speed or handling. The older gators appeared to be more built for work and less for play.
I love Polaris. I have a rzr 900 s. But this is one of the dumbest things I've seen from them yet. The comparison is totally invalid. These are 2 different vehicles. The Commander is a utility vehicle built to compete with the Ranger 900 xp. The rzr is a sport vehicle. It's supposed to weigh less and have more suspension travel in the front. Its built for work.
@Janusha Once again - It's the Polaris guy doing the talking. It a Polaris video. Done by the Polaris company. It's bound to sound a bit biased.
Thanks....I know the economy is making it difficult for a lot of manufacturers but if they have nothing to fear from a review then what other reason could it be ....
In the 4WD test they let the RZR keep moving while they made the comander come to a complete stop
Oh, speaking of MORONS, did you by any chance pay any ATTENTION to the beginning of the video where I said this was a POLARIS video and I just put it up because I thought it was 'interesting'?
Thank you for stopping watching ;-)
@SneakyGoomba I think the point of the video was to show that 800cc with less weight and better suspension could out perform a 1000cc machine.
Goodness that is a ton of comments lol atvtv you really pissed some people off this time lol you should try to get your hands on a commander and outlanders all different displacements and review them. Probably not going to happen but it would be a great idea. Btw you reviews are the only ones I trust. Probably the only ones on RUclips that are really worth watching
@sbdunc12 The problem is they need to be willing to provide them to us! We need a format for showing them with our own tag here on You Tube and on our website . . .
Your comparing apples and oranges! The Commander is NOT a SPORTS machine, it is a UTILITY machine! Put the Can Am Maverick up against the RZR S then see what it does! The Maverick is a true Sports Machine, not a UTILITY Machine like the Commander is!
What about in hauling, towing, mileage, or smell ;-)
@devonevans I don't think the Commander is considered in the utility class. It's a cross-over, like the Rhino and Teryx more than a Ranger or Mule.
Indeed! And we would have put that video up here as well but oddly Can Am would not give us the permission....
Thats right man..pure sport vs. pure sport!!
@randut100 Sorry, we have no sponsors! (That's why we ask you to click on all the ads you see;-) And did you miss the part in the beginning where I said that this was a Polaris video, done by Polaris, and even put on their site, but that I found it interesting so I thought I'd show it.
So far it has been the most commented on video we have. And of course the vast majority of those comments are bashing us for thinking we did it.
@rancherjongus I totally agree. The biggest problem I have with the Commander is how much everyone thinks that because it's a 1000 that it's the best sport machine. It's a good thing we have so many choices, eh?
No need to apologize to us, we didn't do the video.....only thought it an interesting comparison and one that might get plenty of feedback.
where u get that red one
My personal preference is Arctic Cat and Polaris, have and still personally own one of each of there atv's. I have worked and played hard on them and they have been great if there utv's are anything like there atv's I would spend my money on them.
@tubbyg23 to further the fairness competition, using a RZRS with gas shocks would have been better. The model shown uses the throw away's. HUGE ride and capability difference beween the two.
Ya I have looked at everything on the market I'm leaning twords either the ranger 900 a jd gator or a commander but I'm looking for all the input I can get because I wanna get the perfect machine because I'm about to drop my like savings on it so all the input is appreciated thanks
hook up the rzr to a 125 gallon sprayer tank or even to your stuck buddy and see if it compares to the commander can am has the best all around side by side because as shown in this video it can keep up with the rzr and it can also do all the tuff jobs your traditional ranger can do
@DukeWhite04 I agree with you in many ways, but don't confuse the original 50" RZR with any of this new stuff. I absolutely love the 50" RZR because it IS a dune buggy that can go on the 50" ATV trails. It's unfortunate that big people may not be that comfortable - but then I'm a small guy and even have to move the seat forward;-)
i think the weight comparison should be Razor S vs Commander 1000, because the XT equipment is something the razor doesn't have, but it weights and cost those USD 1,800 extra the Razor comercial said
yeah, i am looking into getting me a UTV for my bday, which is tomorrow, but i am looking for one for play, and i noticed that the Commander 1000 from Can-Am has a wider width, which usually goes for traction, such as pulling a small trailer full of wood behind it, i think the Can-Am 1000 is more of a worker than something to have fun with, but i would like to have one for being as cheap as they are, but i think Polaris RZR XP 900 EFI,i think it'll handle me l0l
@donnyaldridge Probably not. It's too hard to gather up the machines nowadays.
Ok Doug....I need to know your HONEST opinion. I have been racking my brain on 3 machines. The Wolverine 700 R-Spec EPS, Commander 800 XT, and Teryx 800. Price is so close on all 3 that it's a non issue. I mostly go for spirited trail rides with Rzr's, Rhino's and Teryx's in NY State, poker runs, hunt, and clean trails. No dunes, racing, jumping, etc. Whats your opinion?
+Jay Miner How does the Pioneer 100 fit in price-wise? Email me for a longer answer.
Try the maverick
@ufloetz I'd have to check but I think other than engines from Austria and ATVs and UTVs in Mexico, everything else is made in Canada ;-)
What equipment do you have that you could ever compare anything other than your opinion
The Wildcat vs the RZR XP would be a great comparison. I think the XP handles considerably better....but we haven't had the chance to compare them head-to-head as Arctic Cat won't loan us one for that...
@szettervall I know there are way too many comments to read, but I have stated over and over again (including at the beginning and end of this video) that it was a Polaris-made video that I thought was interesting enough to put up here. Notice as well that Can Am has not even offered up their own video in defense - one I know they have on their website.
well I still buy a commander because he has a bigger trunk, but does the trunk dump in the RZR S?
@qcforever5 Exactly what part of "This video was done by Polaris" did you miss?
Just putting a little 'reality perspective' in this. I've been a motorsports editor far a long time and know that when the radar detector comes out a lot of hype goes away ;-)
Great point...
Since it's 'BY' Polaris would you expect anything else?
The problem with that is that at the time Polaris made this video there was no Maverick - and no XP1000 by the way either ...
@MrMustang210 We are going to go test it later this month.
speaking about can am outander 800r xt and 850xp which do you like better and for what reasons? both with power steering i have read many reviews but would like your opinion
@ATVTVCOM im talking about the comment you made "Only 70 of them found this out? Or are there only 70 Commanders out there?"