Voluspá - Orchestral version by Einar Selvik

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  • Опубликовано: 3 сен 2020
  • Einar Selvik performing his version of «Völuspá» accompanied by Bergen Filharmoniske Orkester & Edvard Grieg Kor, conducted by Edward Gardner. The performance was part of opening concert of Bergen International Festival 2020 in Grieghallen Bergen, Norway.
    Music by Einar Selvik.
    Arranged by Einar Selvik and Arne Sandvoll.
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  • @purplemnkydshwshr
    @purplemnkydshwshr 3 года назад +589

    Honestly just saw the name Einar Selvik and clicked thinking this gonna be good.
    It was.

    • @doggoalejandro77
      @doggoalejandro77 3 года назад +8

      I never get disappointed, he is so talented, is my hero

    • @KnuteJPhotos
      @KnuteJPhotos 3 года назад +5

      It wasn’t good. In fact it was absolutely amazing

    • @firstimpressions1703
      @firstimpressions1703 3 года назад +1

      Agreed I missed them in mcr UK this year I was gutted so much feeling in his voice sometimes not knowing the words adds to the power and emotion off the song deffo spiritual

    • @jennythalia7320
      @jennythalia7320 3 года назад +1

      It is. It forever will be.

    • @user-nv2wt4hi8t
      @user-nv2wt4hi8t 2 года назад

      @@firstimpressions1703 I'm looking at booking them next year when they return, they're coming to Cambridge, Manchester and London if you hadn't heard :-)

  • @AshtenHaywood
    @AshtenHaywood 3 года назад +405

    This man has an incredible talent- he has managed find the oldest, most beautiful traditions and brought them to light - to then uses his voice to bring out the purest, most ancient parts of our souls. Parts that remain untouched, causing grown men to break into tears and women's hearts flutter.
    This man needs a million times more recognition then what he has.

  • @jonnajinton
    @jonnajinton 3 года назад +1767

    So magical 🙏🏻❤

    • @voorman534
      @voorman534 3 года назад +51

      Love your video's Jonna :) I didn't expect to find you in this comment section, but then again I'm not suprised! All the best to you!

    • @Alexandra-nw3xv
      @Alexandra-nw3xv 3 года назад +16

      It really is, just like you dear Jonna!

    • @ptacova_m.9185
      @ptacova_m.9185 3 года назад +2

      I think the same 😉❤🙏

    • @dafuse2199
      @dafuse2199 3 года назад +5

      Skål :D

    • @juansanchez3910
      @juansanchez3910 3 года назад +1

      OMG Joona hi, and blessings from Colombia!

  • @jegeization
    @jegeization 3 года назад +86

    The Gods are inside us, through the human nature of our actions. The Gods are outside, through the nature of the world. To meet the gods is to be true to our own self, and to be true with the world around us.

  • @mitchi-
    @mitchi- 3 года назад +172

    The moment Einar's singing gets guttural (2:45), my heart soars. Every time.

    • @bartoszrebelski8571
      @bartoszrebelski8571 3 года назад +3

      Yes, its something out of this world...

    • @the_udmurt
      @the_udmurt Месяц назад

      ​@@bartoszrebelski8571straight from Asgard

  • @typodemon4549
    @typodemon4549 3 года назад +119

    Buried in a world full of anger, death and fear, I find this. And in six minutes of absolute beauty, I find hope. Thank you for this.

    • @Nadadenasanada
      @Nadadenasanada Год назад

      At least Rãgnarok means the destruction of the Yggdrassil and the nine worlds let by a completly restoration of the universe for a new cicle.

    • @Squee_666_9
      @Squee_666_9 Год назад

      Hope can always be found for those who seek it

    • @KAZSANable
      @KAZSANable 9 месяцев назад

      Sharing

  • @iWubmusic
    @iWubmusic Год назад +32

    It's insane people don't open their minds and try and seek out more amazing music like this. Just blows my mind.

    • @lmaolollmao
      @lmaolollmao Месяц назад

      People are allowed to like different things than you do, it is immature to spend time worrying about other peoples personal preferences.

  • @ClumsyGeorge
    @ClumsyGeorge 2 года назад +22

    This man holds his ground against a whole choir... Strong voice and great song...He was the perfect choice to participate on the soundtrack of Vikings ...He lifted those series toward Cult level ( Ragnar too , of course or Mr Fimmel)

  • @SabinaAsgarovaSabinella
    @SabinaAsgarovaSabinella 3 года назад +82

    This man like a best friend that I never meet in person

  • @BPCougar8000
    @BPCougar8000 3 года назад +352

    Perfect time of the year to start listening to this song again

  • @freethinkersoftheworldbysh4769
    @freethinkersoftheworldbysh4769 2 года назад +142

    Einar is a force of nature. With an orchestra behind him, he's the whole storm. Love it!

  • @philipbajkov4145
    @philipbajkov4145 3 года назад +39

    This music allows you to travel thousand years back and feel the different world with different people. Greentings from Russia.

  • @seif7428
    @seif7428 3 года назад +31

    He’s one of the few artists that sound better live than in the actual song

  • @Sara-gl8ue
    @Sara-gl8ue 2 года назад +66

    His voice and music stir up something deep within me that I cannot explain. It gives me goosebumps and makes me cry. I'm so happy to see that it does this to so many others as well. We are all connected. We are all one. The Great Awakening for humanity is well on its way ❤️

    • @Wyrdbifularaed
      @Wyrdbifularaed Месяц назад

      The Völuspa (the lyrics here) is an ancient poem of the story of creation and the end of the world and its rebirth as told to Odin by a völva. Of course it speaks to old souls! 😊

  • @jazminfloresmonroy8206
    @jazminfloresmonroy8206 28 дней назад +2

    I met Wardruna through my partner. He passed away a year ago and every time I hear Einar I undersantand the reason he was fascinated whit this music. This makes me feel he is near. Greetings and blessings from Mexico 🙏🏽👍🏽

  • @priscilagibert
    @priscilagibert 3 года назад +18

    The original song is one thing, but the orchestral version.... The strings and voices kicked in, and I started crying.

  • @MrTimebomb12
    @MrTimebomb12 3 года назад +21

    I can't feel anything else other than an immense sense of proudness for him. There is no way he started Wardruna expecting how big it would become. Sixteen million views on Lyfjaberg and I'm still in shock about it. He really has made the gods proud.

  • @VadimFromPlanetEarth
    @VadimFromPlanetEarth 3 года назад +142

    The Gods themselves were present during the performance of this song..

  • @Raven-ik9wk
    @Raven-ik9wk 11 месяцев назад +11

    Einar Salvik, when he performs, his voice is like an intrenched & very familiar echo that reaches into the core of my soul. To me it feels like a call to come home.

  • @melissarodrigues6780
    @melissarodrigues6780 3 года назад +51

    This orchestral version is sensational ! I get emotional whenever I listen to this song. ❤️🇧🇷🇧🇷

  • @annichmaadfranio9009
    @annichmaadfranio9009 3 года назад +83

    Einar, thanks to be in this world ⚔️

  • @NH-mr6px
    @NH-mr6px 3 года назад +41

    Damn...I just cannot truly understand how awesome Einar is. To think this is the same guy who used to be Gorgoroth’s drummer hahaha!! Wardruna’s music is one of the main reasons to be alive. So stoked to have yet one more version of this song. That makes four. Skål everyone!

  • @allen_de_sun
    @allen_de_sun 3 года назад +479

    People who dislike this song have no understanding of the music.

    • @toxicwaste9908
      @toxicwaste9908 3 года назад +8

      I dont dislike the song just this version its way better with Einar alone

    • @itsad7194
      @itsad7194 3 года назад +14

      @@toxicwaste9908 no, this version is one of the most beautiful thing I've ever heard in music history

    • @itsad7194
      @itsad7194 3 года назад

      @@pouks why lol?

    • @itsad7194
      @itsad7194 3 года назад +3

      @@pouks this music is sooo beautiful

    • @Frozus-nh9oq
      @Frozus-nh9oq 3 года назад +4

      People who disliked this video never watched Vikings.Thats the true answer

  • @12stepsbeyondtheeventhorizon
    @12stepsbeyondtheeventhorizon 3 года назад +13

    This has to be the single finest piece of Scandinavian music I have ever heard in my life.

  • @jayb2661
    @jayb2661 3 года назад +23

    The beauty of Wardruna and Einar Selvik; they do not need a choir/ orchestra behind them. I love the instrumentals and skaldic versions they do

  • @hollyisrain
    @hollyisrain 3 года назад +73

    I'm just speechless. This song has always been a favorite of mine. The orchestra and the passion in your vocals just elevated it. Chills, tears and joy. Thank you so much for your beautiful music ❤️❤️❤️

  • @cFull_Rtrd
    @cFull_Rtrd 3 года назад +1

    it's only 4 notes but to play them over and over in time you have to be a machine, and he's singing too... i dont know why i find that more impressive than someone shredding.

  • @raulfrbardenfleth5099
    @raulfrbardenfleth5099 3 года назад +12

    Det är väldigt roligt för mig att efterkommande av människor som försöker förstöra vår religion , folksånger och epics älskar och äger våra låtar , vår religion och vår historia med stor beundran . Einar ❤️

  • @ericrose7450
    @ericrose7450 3 года назад +23

    Just when you think Einar cant out do his self, challenge accepted.

  • @maciejstarak4817
    @maciejstarak4817 3 года назад +41

    Mr Einar, THIS is the best version of the song! Skål!

  • @WisdomofBlackMetal
    @WisdomofBlackMetal 3 года назад +24

    Without ochestra this song is so damn epic, but the genius Einar Selvik found a way to make it even more epic !! Thanks a lot Einar for being such a great musician !!!

  • @Bobbiii0.2
    @Bobbiii0.2 3 года назад +25

    I honestly got chills listening to this. Einar is such an incredible musician and this ensemble works so well.

  • @saxonde68
    @saxonde68 7 месяцев назад +3

    Wardruna is such a primal and deeply human force. But seeing Einar in this modern classical setting only deepens his power. 30 or 40 musicians supported him, and everyone was playing their charge! But he still managed to rise on top and command the attention of the room…

  • @Lugoun
    @Lugoun 3 года назад +5

    Where has this music been all my life? Yes, complete my album.

  • @oldcat1006
    @oldcat1006 3 года назад +11

    How dares to dislike this???
    Are they incapable of ... FEEL???

    • @td6346
      @td6346 3 года назад +1

      its the saxons

  • @reggaehippy1
    @reggaehippy1 3 года назад +689

    Heed my words, all classes of men
    You greater and lesser children of Heimdall
    You summoned me, Odin, to tell what I recall
    Of the oldest deeds of gods and men
    The sun turns black, the earth sinks into the sea
    The bright stars fall out of the sky
    Flames scorch the leaves of Yggdrasil
    A great bonfire reaches to the highest clouds
    Brothers will fight one another and kill one another
    Cousins will break peace with one another
    The old tree sighs when the giant shakes it
    Yggdrasil still stands but it trembles
    Fenrir howls terribly before the doors to Hel
    The wolf will break its bonds and run
    Waterfalls flow, and eagles fly overhead
    Hunting for fish among the mountain peaks
    I see a hall standing there more beautiful than sunlight.
    Thatched with gold at Gimlé
    There bold men will dwell
    And enjoy cheer throughout their lives

    • @brandubh11
      @brandubh11 3 года назад +24

      Is that the translation? Wow... amazing, thank you!

    • @reggaehippy1
      @reggaehippy1 3 года назад +25

      I found 3. This one seemed to be the closest.

    • @odinallfather4560
      @odinallfather4560 3 года назад +55

      @@brandubh11 the translation to english can be found on the original version on Wardruna's account in the info button of Voluspa. It is pretty much the same. Einar took some of the Voluspa from the Prose Edda when Odin speaks to a seer about the future of the Gods and Goddesses of the Aesir and Vanir

    • @robvandeschepop8595
      @robvandeschepop8595 3 года назад +3

      Thank you!

    • @yashypsycho979
      @yashypsycho979 3 года назад +2

      U are in valhalla , i know

  • @vaughngriffiths3148
    @vaughngriffiths3148 3 года назад +14

    Again, speechless. Medicine for the soul

  • @ProjectHomeGrown
    @ProjectHomeGrown 3 года назад +6

    This is my first youtube video comment ever, and this performance made me do it. Loved it !

  • @94x100karen
    @94x100karen 3 года назад +5

    Nevermind the quantity of versions of this song I've heard, every time it takes my breath away. This is perfect.

  • @morgrimgrimaxe5454
    @morgrimgrimaxe5454 3 года назад +5

    The gods sent us Einar so that we would not forget them. Thanks for the creativity.

  • @robertoguerrero3097
    @robertoguerrero3097 Год назад +4

    Every time I hear this version makes me nostalgic from a place I’ve never been …

  • @thorunn8346
    @thorunn8346 2 года назад +10

    I'm soooooo touched! I almost dropped my weights at the gym! This was so magical and stunning. Man I've never heard something so completed my entire life! How is this even possible!

    • @Mountagon
      @Mountagon 2 года назад

      this kind of music has history in some way. and he is one of the most powerful voices out there in our generation. if this not touches you in any way whatsoever... im afraid your soul maybe doomed. ;)

  • @BasantSiingh
    @BasantSiingh 3 года назад +1

    I guess this is what it feels to be homesick about a place you've never been to. I love Vikings and the Old Norse mythology!

  • @danntheman865
    @danntheman865 3 года назад +214

    Just so so good. Fucken tears and shivers man.

    • @mreddyfeelgood
      @mreddyfeelgood 3 года назад +1

      Man I'm reading your comment with my stone's reach t shirt on ❤️ glad to see it here.

    • @danntheman865
      @danntheman865 3 года назад +2

      @@mreddyfeelgood Hahahahaha i legit have mine on right now aswell

    • @mreddyfeelgood
      @mreddyfeelgood 3 года назад +1

      Wow HAHAHA so glad to hear that mate!

    • @danntheman865
      @danntheman865 3 года назад +1

      @@mreddyfeelgood hopefully some new material from the boys soon. Stay safe brother.👍 Its a crazy rabbit hole melodic metal leads you down.

  • @WingsDippedInBlood
    @WingsDippedInBlood 3 года назад +23

    Beautiful and soul stirring. So glad to have found Wardruna

  • @brycea.4039
    @brycea.4039 3 года назад +11

    An absolute masterpiece! This song always makes me cry but this version was so epic. Einar, thank you for blessing the world with your music and being so humble about it.

  • @guipedro96
    @guipedro96 3 года назад +28

    Eu ouço Einar pelo menos uma vez ao dia. Obrigado por mostrar ao mundo esse gênero musical tão bonito e único. Creio que os deuses nórdicos te presentearam por um motivo especial. Abraços do Brasil!
    In English: I listen to Einar at least once a day. Thank you for showing the world this beautiful and unique musical genre. I believe that the Nordic gods presented you for a special reason. Hugs from Brazil!

  • @clairemeilleur1242
    @clairemeilleur1242 3 года назад +5

    Ive never clicked on the like button so fast in my life. What an amazing performance!

  • @melkor3496
    @melkor3496 3 года назад +54

    I’m so proud of my Scandinavian ancestry when I listen to this.

  • @dennisdzeko3916
    @dennisdzeko3916 3 года назад +9

    I feel Einar's music make way through my veins.

  • @Shadawg666
    @Shadawg666 3 года назад +6

    This song just touched my soul..
    You know it's Real art when words can't describe how it makes you feel when you experience it..

  • @damiendrake465
    @damiendrake465 3 года назад +6

    Would enjoy a whole Album with Orchestra! This is so magical that you sink in while listening. LOVE IT !!

  • @KrisP_98
    @KrisP_98 3 года назад +5

    Truly one of the best Vocal singers on earth,number 1 for me definitely!!!! Hope to see him one day live

  • @alexfrasca673
    @alexfrasca673 3 года назад +2

    When Einar sings, it's as if a thousand years of anguish are released in one glorious, melancholic moment.

  • @blanchingcrow5305
    @blanchingcrow5305 3 года назад +3

    Мурашки пробежались по мне табуном... чуть не затоптали.

  • @ulfgardian
    @ulfgardian 3 года назад +335

    Ive never clicked so fast in my life

    • @dianazhyhailo3476
      @dianazhyhailo3476 3 года назад +9

      the same. good to have notification system)

    • @mankilord
      @mankilord 3 года назад +5

      Never liked a video faster, as soon as the music started and he opened his mouth I was hooked

    • @igorhenrique1087
      @igorhenrique1087 3 года назад +1

      Me too!

    • @firstimpressions1703
      @firstimpressions1703 3 года назад

      What you mean ? You didn’t like it ?

  • @Godofdeath805
    @Godofdeath805 3 года назад +9

    I didn’t think this song could be made any more amazing.

  • @Eddy_Del_Lobo
    @Eddy_Del_Lobo 3 года назад +1

    His words are like roots to a giant ancient tree as they grow they pluck at the strings in our hearts, it's the call of our pagan roots for sure!

  • @rogerironhide4220
    @rogerironhide4220 3 года назад +2

    The blood rushing through my veins..... The calling of my Ancestors..... Whom I long to be with. Einar has the sound of Asgard behind him. Absolutely beautiful & The feeling is.... Cannot be defined.
    Thank you Einar & keep this sacred tradition well & alive forever.

  • @Nesher92
    @Nesher92 3 года назад +3

    Gods almighty. Never saw the choir coming. Brilliant rendition, the orchestra doesn't overwhelm Einar but its still very present, giving him sustainment. Every single hair on my body is standing!

  • @MusicRelax1318
    @MusicRelax1318 3 года назад +6

    Видно когда человек не просто знает о чём поёт, А поёт именно душой!

  • @SuperMrLelon
    @SuperMrLelon 3 года назад +8

    Please please please more orchestral compositions in the future! This mixture is amazing! 👍

  • @donovanrivas4187
    @donovanrivas4187 3 года назад +3

    Best Einar-version of Völuspá ever! Einar is the man who's talented enough to sing this poem. Standing there as a true skald. One word: BEAUTIFUL! 👏👊💪👍

  • @natashahipperson8604
    @natashahipperson8604 2 года назад +5

    This song just hits me in the heart I dont know why ....I feel some type of way listening to this like my home is calling me

  • @ziziiortanowaa5439
    @ziziiortanowaa5439 3 года назад +16

    I don’t have words to describe this, just amazing... Thank you 🔥

  • @josegvl13
    @josegvl13 2 года назад +1

    Can't wait to see him November 2022 in Dallas TX

  • @belchir3971
    @belchir3971 3 года назад +1

    It will be a long story, but i hope Wardruna will read it, because i am so grateful for their music. I always searched the reason of my life, of my exist and my place in this world. But i never found it.
    I always had interest about nordic cultures, about the scandinavain culture. But the true eye opening moment was, when i heard Wardruna at first time. Since that moment - which was around in 2018 - there is no day without Wardruna. Even if i'm not listening the songs at the moment, i hear it, and it is touching my soul.. something ancient.
    Now, thanks for this amazing and magical music, now i know my place in this world. And i know my soul is belong to something old, to something which is almost got forgotten.
    I found the Love of my life thanks to Wardruna and Heilung. She is the most perfect women whoever i met.
    My biggest dream to see and hear Wardruna in live, i hope once they will visit Hungary, or i can visit a place where they have concert near to me.
    Thank you for your amazing work, and thank you for changing my life!

  • @theendofdaysprophet
    @theendofdaysprophet 3 года назад +11

    Thank you Wardruna! Thank you Einar Selvik!

  • @bethysbarn
    @bethysbarn 3 года назад +6

    This mans voice is just on another level 😍❤️❤️❤️every time I hear it it just takes me to another place it’s so magical 💕

  • @sarahbrown6767
    @sarahbrown6767 3 года назад +1

    Piece of my ancestry preserved by this amazing artist a gift from the gods bestowed upon you einar Skól

  • @gwainknight4907
    @gwainknight4907 3 года назад +5

    Einar, you got an incredible Viking voice, a gift from the Gods!! Thanks for the magic once again :)

  • @b81312
    @b81312 3 года назад +3

    wow... both versions are great but in this one, when the strings and the choir enter, i get goosebumps and i tear up, this is so powerful!! i wish this was on spotify!

  • @N3xus25
    @N3xus25 3 года назад +6

    T.T .... pure awesomeness, whenever i hear him sing i just drift into a trance

  • @MrZERK7
    @MrZERK7 3 года назад +4

    Fantastic, Einar Selvik never disappoints
    Such a shame there was no audience clapping because of the pandemic

  • @jhanemcguirk6943
    @jhanemcguirk6943 3 года назад +3

    I can picture a group of Vikings trekking through the snow and there is a harsh wind blowing. Wow-you never cease to amaze me with your vocals Einar, blessings to you ♥️😌♥️

  • @Sneckred
    @Sneckred 3 года назад +10

    Quanto Brasileiro, que orgulho em saber que em meu pais tbm existe bom gosto.

  • @zainalamarzainalabidin4368
    @zainalamarzainalabidin4368 3 года назад +14

    One moment I was in my living room clicking "play", the next I was on a longboat heading for a coastal English village

    • @KenMoss
      @KenMoss 3 года назад

      I'm in that English village I have blue eyes and fair hair and that stirred my soul. Maybe I have found my forefathers.

  • @moragmckay3779
    @moragmckay3779 3 года назад +2

    Even the out-of period/character backing can't diminish the power of his performance of my favourite of his songs.

  • @DIlemma7
    @DIlemma7 3 года назад +4

    Pure beauty and power of Northern soul and spirit!

  • @SwordQuake2
    @SwordQuake2 Месяц назад +2

    If only the video wasn't so quiet this would be perfection.

  • @Claymann71
    @Claymann71 3 года назад +3

    I honestly do believe that Odin lives in your voice, Einar. You make some of the *GREATEST* music the world has Ever heard. That I've ever heard. I've bought all of your albums.

  • @82tonypr
    @82tonypr 3 года назад +5

    This was Great!
    I'll be honest, at first the Orchestra I wasn't super in to at first. But when the Choir came in as well, that is when I really felt it.

  • @miguelsanchezdiaz7676
    @miguelsanchezdiaz7676 3 года назад +10

    For all people says that we are living in the worst age of music... listen this

  • @Zelgadis
    @Zelgadis 3 года назад +2

    I really want to buy an album of this entire performance. It's power is beyond description.

  • @andaluzita733
    @andaluzita733 3 года назад +9

    Música preferida do Meu Amado Viking🔥
    Saudações do Brasil 🇧🇷
    Épico!!

  • @vincentsantos4012
    @vincentsantos4012 3 года назад +38

    Literal tears, goosebumps and chills. The Allfather is with you Einar, speaking through you!!

  • @Loki_Dokie
    @Loki_Dokie 2 года назад +1

    This made me cry just now, after having listened to it hundreds of times it hasn't happened. Not sure what happened lol.

  • @AmoxXxius
    @AmoxXxius 2 года назад +1

    What a masterpiece, i Love it... Grand Orchester, grand voice.... please come to Germany with the orchestra

  • @samirabraga3003
    @samirabraga3003 3 года назад +4

    We need an orchestral album

  • @user-ts7wt2ly7m
    @user-ts7wt2ly7m 2 года назад +4

    Потрясающее исполнение! Спасибо большое за Ваше творчество! Желаю вам Эйнар удачи и всех благ! Храни вас Бог!

  • @renamcvicar
    @renamcvicar 3 года назад +2

    the power in Einar's voice simply grabs me and turns me inside out.

  • @frankyzacharya7937
    @frankyzacharya7937 3 года назад

    Imagine world without Einar and his music

  • @hagott
    @hagott 3 года назад +29

    Шедевральное исполнение!

  • @rognvaldrasbjrn3972
    @rognvaldrasbjrn3972 3 года назад +5

    Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.
    This gave me goosebumps the whole time and his voice in the last lines brought me close to tears
    Thank you for this audio magnificence
    Much respect from South Africa 🇿🇦

  • @marie-thebardin3783
    @marie-thebardin3783 Год назад +1

    MERVEILLEUSE DECOUVERTE grâce à Messire LUC ARBOGAST sans le savoir avec le mot RAÏDO , c'est superbe comme le chanteur ! Merciiiiii

  • @beboybenkins
    @beboybenkins Год назад +1

    Einar is in a class of his own.

  • @morthii
    @morthii 3 года назад +9

    And all of a sudden day become much better.

  • @vitoriaborem2343
    @vitoriaborem2343 3 года назад +30

    Que perfeito. Cadê os brasileiros com bom gosto musical?👏😍❤

  • @nestor8345
    @nestor8345 3 года назад +15

    Как всегда великолепное звучание,и шикарная песня.

  • @laskaplush2092
    @laskaplush2092 3 года назад +2

    What a powerful voice, if even the choir and orchestra are covered by it! Einar is absolutely incredible! Tears come from the beauty of the performance...