少女のいと 魔法のいと（ 渋田 直彰）/ Better back then (Naoaki SHIBUTA)
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2015
- 「少女のいと 魔法のいと」
東京藝術大学大学院映像研究科 アニメーション専攻 修了作品2011
監督：渋田 直彰
音楽：上水樽 力
効果音：堤裕 吏衣
プロデューサー：出口 丈人
シノプシス：
少女は魔女にこき使われている。ひたすらジャガイモの皮を剥く。嫌気がさした少女はそこから逃げ出そうとする。しかし魔女の魔法に阻まれてしまう。ここにいたらずっとこのままだと思った少女は魔女をやっつける決心をするが…。はなしの終わりで彼女は何を考えるのか。はたして少女のいとは？「覆水盆にかえらず」のひっくり返ったお盆を元に戻す話。
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"Better back then"
Graduate Work 2011, Tokyo University of the Arts, Graduate School of Film and New Media, Department of Animation
Director：Naoaki SHIBUTA
Music：Chikara UEMIZUTARU
Sound Design：Yurie TSUTSUMI
producer : Takehito DEGUCHI
Synopsis：
A girl is kept on the trot by a witch and continues to peel potatoes. She is fed up and tries to escape in vain. She gets desperate and decides to beat the witch... After all what she will find? What is her intention? Can we undo what has been done?
© 2011 Naoaki SHIBUTA & Tokyo University of the Arts 
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Okay, so the way I see this is it’s a cycle of abuse. The witch can be represented as a mother, and the girl as her daughter. The mother abused her daughter (which is represented by the girl serving the witch). The girl has thoughts about escaping (standing up to her mother), which is shown by her stabbing, and hitting the witch, which doesn’t do anything, because these scenes take place in the girl’s mind as ideas rather actual actions. The one time she does stand up for herself (with the water), she ends up pushing the witch to her breaking point. She ends up accidentally killing the witch (which represents the daughter coming of age, moving out, and going on her own without her mother to control her). However, in many cycles of abuse, the child will end up becoming just like their parent, which is shown when the girl gains her own magic just like the former witch. It’s a cycle of control and abuse that never really ends, because she didn’t get the help she needed to overcome the traumatic events she went through.
This is a perfect analysis and explanation, of the short film. Thank you; I enjoyed this disruption!
Eu tambem peguei aids
How do u overcome traumatic events...
@@EveRiriqj shitloads of therapy. It takes a while but yes, you can overcome trauma.
exactly what i thought too
こういうアニメーションって小さい頃もワクワクして見てたけど、
大人になった今でもワクワクしていて、変わらない感情に素直に嬉しさを感じてる
Муппкеркародщж(?!!!😭😈👵🥺👩
だよね😊
Instead of being saved by a prince charming she independently tried to save herself but idk wtf she's doing afterwards
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@@geraldocesardeoliveirapowe3141 lmfao..😂 QUE?????
Sed
@@pumabear2724 thank
Stockholm Syndrome was what happened I believe.
コロライン思い出す。大好きな映画
コラライン
同じこと思ってる人いた！
分かります！めっちゃ思い出した！
she was miserable and uncomfortable and enraged plus her problems amplified with this entity around and then she accidentally destroyed it and it stopped and then nostalgia ensued and she was miserable without her typical problems so she fabricated/manifested another problem out of her own material driven by her anger and misery thats why there were red threads sizzling around her fingers that red thread that stands for her hidden rage thats haunting her its the same threads that she is formed of the same threads holding her together so that she is formed into a character
Wow👏👏👏👏
So, my understanding of this is the witch captured her, and probably grew fond of her and wanted her to stay. Maybe that's why she kept putting more potatoes. And then the girl found out if she filled the buckets with water then she could be free from doing work (?) and she accidentally killed the witch and realized this. And she went back to peeling potatoes and turned into a witch, the end.
💀
So many different language and we all are in unity on this one stop motion film, comment section! I love each and everyone of you's.
We love you too 🤭🤗
Te amamos también 🤭🤗
@@mancanwechilliwantsomefrie2566 gracious 😄
I used to be married to a guy from Ecuador, I used to say to him " Te amo dos" loll..god he was such an assclown!
So sweet 🥺❤️
Te amamos também
She stabbed it but it just went "go back to work lmao"
Its Doesnt Make Sense Lol
@mavis wha?
正直に言うと、これらの話は大好きです
What I've learnt
Potatos are evilll
Ig I'm evil 😃👍
Potatoes are evilllll but I don't know how bruh
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La chica creía q se la pasaría de esa forma siempre y decidió escapar a pesar q luchaba con la bruja, la empujaba, hasta la acuchilló creo, la bruja nunca le respondió con violencia... solo le mandaba a pelar papas, ... luego cuando se deshizo de la bruja no se fue... porque se dio cuenta q la bruja era su Madre.
Cuando somos adolescentes solo pensamos en salir y descubrir la vida de allá afuera, y vemos los quehaceres como una obligación. Pero sin nuestros Padres nada somos.....
;^; verdad
A ya entiendo
Entied ☺ now Word cx
si parece su madre, que quiere enseñarle a que descubra por si misma la magia, pero la tontita sigue usando un cuchillo
tambien me gusta el comentario que dejó the frogs are gay, es original
As I see it, this animation represents the false feeling of freedom. While the girl is stuck (It could be in real life anything that limits our actions), forced to peel potatoes, she wants to break free. The witch could represent many things that keeps us from reaching that goal: rules, laws, politicians, parents, whatever you may think of. However, when the girl finally overcomes her obstacles, she does not identify any kind of freedom beyond that zone she was in. As a consequence she stayed in the same place, doing the same thing.
The magic the witch had, was her capacity to be free. And when the girl got her own she still remained imprisioned, but she did it to herself.
"Freedom is a prison cell".
É como dizem, as vezes ficamos tanto tempo em nossas prisões que depois sair dela se torna um desafio(ou algo assim) 🤔 foi uma otima animação
I clicked because she literally looks like the other mother of Coraline
SAMEE
こういうの、なんか惹かれるよね
これは素晴らしいです。 とても美しい漫画。 人形をアニメートするのはおそらく難しい仕事です。 私はロシアから来ました、あなたの仕事が本当に好きでした🌹✨
同意
魔女、暴力ではやり返さないのね…
じゃがいも見すぎて鬱になりそう
Creo que esa bruja era su madre o algo (digo, con esos poderes, porqué no le castigo a la chica de forma severa, como hacerla sufrir o algo) y al final, ella se queda pues, no conoce otra vida...aunque la puerta esta ahora abierta...
Estas pensando lo mismo que yo
yo tanbien
Well that's just wow water
@@shainaclaiborne8073 What????
This witch is so nice? Literally got shoved into the oven by the girl but all that witch did was giving her more potatoes
She was imprisoned by the witch
THIS IS AMAZING
魔女優しくね
I'm french but I speak English here I think it's better for everyone so have a good day everyone and I really like this comment section
Creo que es un poco horroroso y extraño, pero la animación resultó realmente genial.
De acuerdo, la forma en que veo esto es que es un ciclo de abuso. La bruja se puede representar como una madre y la niña como su hija. La madre abusó de su hija (que está representada por la niña que sirve a la bruja). La niña tiene pensamientos de escapar (enfrentándose a su madre), lo que se demuestra con su apuñalamiento, y golpeando a la bruja, lo cual no hace nada, porque estas escenas tienen lugar en la mente de la niña como ideas en lugar de acciones reales. La única vez que se defiende (con el agua), termina empujando a la bruja a su punto de ruptura. Ella termina matando accidentalmente a la bruja (que representa a la hija que alcanza la mayoría de edad, se muda y se va sola sin que su madre la controle). Sin embargo, en muchos ciclos de abuso, el niño terminará volviéndose como su padre, lo que se muestra cuando la niña obtiene su propia magia al igual que la antigua bruja. Es un ciclo de control y abuso que en realidad nunca termina, porque no recibió la ayuda que necesitaba para superar los eventos traumáticos por los que pasó.
comentario de IT´S THE JAVA VOID
現代版ヘンゼルとグレーテルと言った所でしょうか。違いは兄がいないということくらい。家主が亡くなった場合、その家にいる者に力が受け継がれるシステムなのでしょうか。
自分も最初そう思ってけど、途中で超能力をさりげなく使ってる場面があるので、もしかしたらもう既に持っていたのかもしれいないですね。
なんて良い話✌️
Great story and excellent animation
Wow,estuvo muy bueno el cortometraje aunque casi no entendí el final:(
@፧ ¡jam boo! . oh ok,ok, gracias.
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X2
Jajajaja yo también pensé que era algo como síndrome de Estocolmo, pero también parece tener sentido eso de que en realidad era su madre (la bruja) y la adolescente solo quería escapar de su prisión (su casa)
Pero obvio sin los padres o madres no somos nada TnT
@abril ;3 más bien es como si la bruja fuera la madre y quería enseñarle a su hija a usar sus poderes para pelar papas, pero la chica la veía como un monstruo hasta que la perdió y se dio cuenta de que la necesitaba para aprender
L’apprentie sorcière 🥰👍!
So this is where coralines other mother has been!!
مم
これには、見た目以上に深い意味があると思いますよ～
I feel sorry for her, she is trapped in a cycle of abuse. Instead of wanting to get out of it, she is trapped, usually because of trauma.
藝大の大学院！！凄いな
Woow fantastic compliments!!Thank you so much for this masterpiece 🙏. I can't wait for more to be uploaded. I just su subscribed to the channel 😃
馬鈴薯そんなに剥いてどうすんねやw
芋と芋の芋和え ~芋を添えて~
とか芋と芋の芋茹で ~旬の馬鈴薯と里芋~でも作んのかね。
ゲシュタルト崩壊しました笑
馬鈴薯ちゃん、そんなにいらないですよね笑
She's so cute.❤
I see it as the witch is an abuser who puts too much expectations on the victim. The victim feels obligated because the abuser is never satisfied and there’s more and more expectations appearing out of thin air. The victim is clearly uncomfortable, sleepless nights, nervous facial expressions. Probably has no where else to stay without the witch, also the witch trapped her by playing mind games. Until the victim finally found peace with it and had fun with the expectations on her own terms. Thus the witch gets jealous and dismisses the victims progress & efforts, creating more of a loophole for the victim. The victim thinks of scenarios that lead her to come up with a way that gives the witch a taste of her own medicine & a sense of freedom. She finds that filling up buckets with water will do the trick, replicating the potatoes, which both represent expectations(?) Once the witch gets a taste of her own medicine, she has a MELTDOWN instead of accepting her karma with grace. The victim finds freedom in the witches meltdown, but also guilt. So she stays trapped in a hell loop of her own making, with the door wide open due to guilt. Thus repeating the cycle of abuse instead of accepting the situation as it is to create her own closure. All in all, closure isn’t pretty. Move on with acceptance or become what has hurt you.
じゃがいもの皮向いてるシーンでホッツェンプロッツを思い出した
Logro ser libre, pero no sabía que era ser libre ni como era el mundo en libertad! Así que por temor se quedó en si zona de confort. El temor a la libertad desconocida la paralizó. Tuvo daño emocional, ya que estaba sola y aislada.😢
思ったより曲が明るかった笑
What?
⭐⭐⭐🌟✨✨💕💕💞💞💓❣️💝💝💗💝💝💙💞💞💕💌💌😻😻😻💘💘♥️♥️♥️♥️💘😻😻
People open
so re na
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💖💖💖
I love corline and its similar
Si la bruja era la madre, entonces tenía un estilo de crianza muy estricto no? Por eso no le dejó salir a conocer el mundo, ella no tiene entonces herramientas para salir de su hogar y prefiere quedarse a salvo dentro.
Después de tanto tiempo buscando esta animación, alfin la econtre, hace años que la vi, fue triste y rara a la vez
Me encanta cuando dibujan así o algo no sé
no son dibujos, es una técnica de animación llamada "stop motion" utilizan muñequitos reales hechos de algún material y los animan por medio de fotografías.
ya el poder de la edición le añade cosas que en la vida real no se puede qbidkq pero así es, es increíble, en lo personal prefiero mucho este tipo de animación que la digital o por dibujos.
Che bellooooo
Love
Is this what insanity feels like?
Эта девочка очень похожа на Бельдам из каралины в стране кошмаров
Hello, interesting video, gracias thanks.
Thank god for Google Translate lol👏👏
Estainteresante
Me gusta mucho este tipo de animacion, y para ser sincera pense que se trataba algo como un secuestro.
Por como al comienzo quiere escapar pero no es posible, y cuando golpea a la bruja (que para mi seria el secuestrador) seria las veces en las que se revela o inteta agredirlo, pero nuevamente no funciona.... al menos yo lo interprete asi😅
Anyone else clicked on it cuz it looked like the carline movie
Me
its coraline
Ik but I call her carline cuz that’s what the tall blue guy with the moustache calls her hehe
wat is carline?
This really made me go: :) :( :) :( :/ :) D:
コミカルで少し不気味ですき！
What was the meaning behind this story? Not to be rude but I didn't catch it...
The girl was locked up for so long she can't go out in the real world even she is not locked up anymore because she is so use to being loc up in that house.
I think she just got stockholm syndrome? Idk about a message though tbh
The witch was actually her mother. When we are teenagers, we often feel "oppressed" by obligations and want to "escape" and "be free" but we still need our parents. the witch at no time physically assaulted her, she only gave her more potatoes, but in the end when she has a chance to escape, she doesn't. without our parents we are nothing.
At 6:01 when she dropped down she was like uhhhhhhhh u ok uhm ok
オヌヌメに出て来なさった
Prr'-' ELA TINHA TUDO PRA FUGIR.
DAYUM WHAT A TOXIC RELATIONSHIP
Sea estaba buena pero ya que tanto queria salir y al final se quedo ahi
MUCHAS PATATAS 🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔
Veamos, esto fue lo que entendi; la bruja queria que ella fuera fuerte, y que fuera una excelente bruja la chica, en si, no buscaba dañarla solo queria ayudarla y fuera profecional para cuando vaya al mundo esterior, cuando la asesinO, se dio cuento del grave error que cometio y recordo todo lo que la bruja hizo por ella, apesar de como era esta de gruñona y la sacaba de sus casillas, al final la mujer desperto su poder o Don como lo quieran llamar, esto le sirve para ayudar a otras personas..., y sobrevivir alla afuera, no se si la bruja lo hizo de aldrede para que ella la matara
Этот фийм про то что женщина чистет каждый день картошку
Muchas patatas 🥔🥔🥔🥔🥔
i felt bad for her mother
يا. ولة
حلو
استمر
Woow
Moral story:dont cut potatoes
you know that hallucination illness the cycle maybe she's bored and lonely and wanted attention instead of being ignored even tho there's two of them
Just like kids dont enjoy studying when being pressured to even if study is fun.
This reminds me of Coraline movie XD
puts, acho que em identifiquei
Até que enfim alguém BR kkk
I looovvee mashed potatoes🍟
Once upon a time, there in a house was a witch named mlopple and a kid named Ashley she wanted to go home but her witch wants her to make hot potatoes so she put the skin off, the next day she tried to get out, but the witch did a SNAP!! It was locked 🔒 so she went to bed but she had an idea, the next day she finally finished the potatoes unless...more potatoes were here for her and she was upset, she went to bed again, and she filled all the buckets with water 💧 so next morning the witch was surprised 😮 so the girl spilled the bucket with water and the witch turned evil, and the little girl hides from the witch, until the witch found the girl the bucket spilled on the witch, and the witch melted, melted, and melted and died, and the girl did not know what to do, so she got the skin off the potatoes, but she was sad for the witch that she died 😔, so she did a snap. The end 😊
3:15 Hahah😂😂
3:33 Again😁
hola hola disculpen esta chica yo la soñe una ves cabe aclarar que no conocia el video hasta ahorita, esa chica la soñe igualita la unica diferencia es que la de mi suelo tenia una enorme sonrisa a cada minuto, alguien que ke haiga pasado lo mismo?
واو الفلم حلو مررررررة بس غريب كثير
I dun understand. Can someone explaint?
I think that in the story, deep down she didn't mind peeling potatoes and the witch having to make more. Yeah sure she was to do that forever in life probably and the witch started attacking her after she started doing mischief, but they had a some sort of mutual relationship during that time. Plus I think they've been living together their entire lives because if she has anywhere to go back to, then why would she decide to stay based on her quick flashbacks on what they did together?
is that an Oz The Great and Powerful reference-
Alguém me explica?pq eu n entendi nd
daora, mó legal
Meu deus quase q n acho um comentário português KSKSKKS 👁️👄👁️
Mds, entendi nd, poderia explicar,
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@@juh7104 pelo o que eu entendi, pensa no seguinte exemplo: um passaro passou a vida toda na gaiola observando o céu e os outros que voavam livremente, um dia seu dono por algum motivo abre essa gaiola e ao inves de voar, ele simplesmente se afasta da porta onde esta a sua liberdade
@@espasmoglobal2814 a entendi, obrigada.
Maybe this is how ocd and trich feel.
Coraline vibes
Plot twist. The witch is her mom.
Loop?
こんにちは天海夏樹エンダーおはようございます
😂😂❤
And creepy
Durasi film 48 minutes
Здравствуйте:)
Come from PuiPui
like
And why did she keep peeling potatoes ??😂😂😂😂
I don't know what I am doing 😕
Œæłj❤👉👈 es fan tastik
もしかして、音楽も大学生たちが！？
O my s****
An evil witch!😫
I'm a cartoon of these❤️
What does that mean
Someone liked my comment but didn't reply
@@duafatima2384 lol
@@duafatima2384 I guess they mean that they are in love with these cartoons and I feel the same, stop motion animation is really amazing!
いや、怖いよ