Bjorn these drive till battery dies videos are so useful and informative. Content that every EV owner should view to get a better understanding on how their cars will react. Thanks for doing these incredible videos!
@@carsonj1 If the car isn't foolproof enough, that you can brick it, than it is bad design, that I would like to know about before purchase. Thanks to Byørn, I can get this information
@@carsonj1 It's not really the legacy automakers who build the batteries and drivetrain or BMS though, they source them from other suppliers such as LG Chem as an example.
I once drove my Ioniq 28 down to zero because of a closed motorway exit. We had to go to the next one and eventually the car stopped 70 meters before the next charger, just at the entrance to the parking lot. We put the car in neutral (drive mode 'N') and pushed it to the charger. Plugged in, went to have lunch, and everything was good again 40 minutes later. I can confirm that 0% means 0 range left on this car.
@@silicaskynet3401 mind you, it'll warn you a lot when the charge gets low, and eventually for the last 3 or so kilometers it will feel like you are driving a car with 10 hp - less than a Citroën 2CV and slower than a Trabi. Near the end it won't accelerate above 10 or 15 km/h. I was already creeping off the motorway with only 50 km/h and then the last few hundred meters towards the parking lot not much faster than a bicycle. So it will be obvious that it's about to stop.
Very similar results on my Ioniq with c70k kilometers on the clock. 24.5kWh usable battery, with accurate estimate of remaining range provided the driving style is consistent with previous days. Same behaviour observed with 13% triggering first charge warning, 5% triggering turtle mode, and 3% showing zero range. I didn't push beyond 3% so it s good to see there is quite a bit more life left if you re in a turtle mode panic! The Ioniq classic never ceases to amaze...
Turtle mode started at 5%. The GOM said it could drive 9km. Looking at the odometer, it drove 9km. Even though these were b-road km's, and not the highway. Not bad. I read the great tip in the comments that cruise control overrides turtle mode.
Would love to see this test on the original 24kWh Leaf as well. They are everywhere here and due to the short range probably run out of battery more frequently than other EVs.
The "immediately go into PARK" thing could actually have a reason: If the HV system of the car is completely dead, coasting in NEUTRAL may actually damage something in the electric system because of the inevitably induced voltage from the motor. It won't be able to regen in that condition...
Really like these videos. Hoping to see you test many more EVs and see how they react to running them down all the way. For the EcoFlow, I know it is too early due to warranty, but it might almost be better to cut open the plastic case to allow your fan to blow more air inside to cool it down.
Awesome tests. You should test the LFP Model 3, I'd be curious because of the flat voltage curve on LFP so it'll be interesting how accurate BMS is at 0%. Also maybe don't charge it to 100% for a while to see if it gets confused.
20:20 Parking brake is working off 12V system and maybe ioniq team knew about 12v problems so first thing it does is puts on parking break because "minute later" you might not be able to do it if 12V is discharged.
Btw, There is the possibility in the settings to charge the 12V battery on a regulare basis from the HV battery while the car is parked. This does drain hardly anything from th HV battery, mine lost only 0,5% while beeing parked for 5 weeks. I wonder how Teslas or other modern EV's handle this, has this feature become standard anyway? Thanks and kind regards, Karl
Very interesting video which shows how controllable the classic IONIQ is. And how bad many Delta chargers actually are. For years, the charger in this region has only been able to deliver a maximum of 56KW, although it is supposed to be able to deliver 150KW. 🤦🏼♂️
I possess an Ioniq 28 KWH Electric vehicle. While attempting to charge it using AC, the connection failed, and the car did not receive a charge. I encountered the same issue when trying CCS, and the cable appears to be in good condition. What might be causing this problem?
would be smart do drain the battery uphill and then recharge while rolling down. curious if it works. One time I was driving the Ioniq down to 4% but I did not notice turtle mode. I was pretty scared so already went so slow. Although, I knew that all of the EV-s have some buffer below 0%, happy that we did not have to try.
At these low charging speeds from the EcoFlow, the Tesla charged slightly faster but a smaller percentage of energy actually made it into the car's battery. Around 76% on the Tesla vs. 86% on this Ioniq. Just another example of Tesla's worse wall-to-wheels efficiency when including charging losses and parked vampire drain.
And we have to do something about climate change. Soon you will have no choice anyway. For example, California just outlawed the sale of ICE cars starting on 2035. What California does often drives the US market.
Bjorn these drive till battery dies videos are so useful and informative. Content that every EV owner should view to get a better understanding on how their cars will react. Thanks for doing these incredible videos!
Hear, hear 👍
@@carsonj1 If the car isn't foolproof enough, that you can brick it, than it is bad design, that I would like to know about before purchase. Thanks to Byørn, I can get this information
@@carsonj1 There is usually a small buffer that it should not "brick" and these have advanced BMS
@@carsonj1 It's not really the legacy automakers who build the batteries and drivetrain or BMS though, they source them from other suppliers such as LG Chem as an example.
Because of you I bought my Ioniq 28 KW Limited 3 years ago! I love it! Thanks!
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Me too :)
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Me too 😊 love it
I once drove my Ioniq 28 down to zero because of a closed motorway exit. We had to go to the next one and eventually the car stopped 70 meters before the next charger, just at the entrance to the parking lot. We put the car in neutral (drive mode 'N') and pushed it to the charger. Plugged in, went to have lunch, and everything was good again 40 minutes later. I can confirm that 0% means 0 range left on this car.
Kind of surprised that there is no little buffer once it reaches 0 like some other vehicles...but then again it is a small battery
@@silicaskynet3401 mind you, it'll warn you a lot when the charge gets low, and eventually for the last 3 or so kilometers it will feel like you are driving a car with 10 hp - less than a Citroën 2CV and slower than a Trabi. Near the end it won't accelerate above 10 or 15 km/h. I was already creeping off the motorway with only 50 km/h and then the last few hundred meters towards the parking lot not much faster than a bicycle. So it will be obvious that it's about to stop.
The low solar output was probably due to the cable lying on the panel. When shadow hits single cells they turn into strong resistive loads.
Yep, even a small obstruction like that can be very bad for efficiency.
10:33 you need to keep the cable off the solar panel. Partial shade has quite a big impact usually.
I was about to comment about this. Please have thins in mind Bjorn
28kwh and 235km so many years later... amazing.
Very similar results on my Ioniq with c70k kilometers on the clock. 24.5kWh usable battery, with accurate estimate of remaining range provided the driving style is consistent with previous days. Same behaviour observed with 13% triggering first charge warning, 5% triggering turtle mode, and 3% showing zero range. I didn't push beyond 3% so it s good to see there is quite a bit more life left if you re in a turtle mode panic! The Ioniq classic never ceases to amaze...
I just love the Ioniq classic... Great EV
Yeah look at soh =100% what a champ
SoH is lying. The real SoH is 94 %.
@@bjornnyland lol 😂 mine says 100 to but really it's 94 like you said 😊
07:52 Right when it hits 0 Neutral is engaged just before Park
Turtle mode started at 5%. The GOM said it could drive 9km. Looking at the odometer, it drove 9km. Even though these were b-road km's, and not the highway. Not bad. I read the great tip in the comments that cruise control overrides turtle mode.
Nice video!
Now i know that's 0% is equally 0 km left. In our 28 kWh ioniq!
Keep up with your nice EV videos
205/55/R16 are standard dimension for 2017-2019 model.
For the 2020 model they changed to 205/60/R16.
Wow, so when I was at 1% I was really at the end. Thank you Björn.
Would love to see this test on the original 24kWh Leaf as well. They are everywhere here and due to the short range probably run out of battery more frequently than other EVs.
The "immediately go into PARK" thing could actually have a reason: If the HV system of the car is completely dead, coasting in NEUTRAL may actually damage something in the electric system because of the inevitably induced voltage from the motor. It won't be able to regen in that condition...
I have one of these and have managed to tow it with regen on when we got ver low one day and got 6% back over a few km’s using regen level 1.
Cruise control overrides turtle mode. Can be very useful when your power drops while still on the highway. You can maintain speed that way.
So much drama getting off the highway. I was on the edge of my seat. Relieved you made it safely off. 👍
The Ioniq Classic - what a phantastic car, to this day one of the best of the best vehicles out there.
Bjorn when will you do this with fossil cars? We need a benchmark
Have you done this with the 38KWH ioniQ? are you planning to?
Take care ! The cable of the solar panel's shade kills the performance.
Thank you! 🇨🇦
Damn. Bjørn really knows well which car order to choose to test 0 km range. Ioniq classic was my next choice after Tesla too. Next choice: i3?
gracias ,una pena no tener subtitulos tendrias mas difusion
Would love to see this test with e-Golf and Audi Q4 (if it's different to fat e-tron)
eGolf yes please!
Really like these videos. Hoping to see you test many more EVs and see how they react to running them down all the way. For the EcoFlow, I know it is too early due to warranty, but it might almost be better to cut open the plastic case to allow your fan to blow more air inside to cool it down.
Fantastic mate, love this model car
Try to keep the eco flow off the road. The pavement gives off a bunch of heat. Or put something to insulate the road and battery.
Doesn't matter. It heats up because of internal resistance when discharging/charging.
You get maximum charge speed at about 70% SOC. The Ioniq ramps up from 0-77% SOC after that it start to throttle down.
Loved it! Please find a Ioniq5 to do this test!!!
Awesome tests. You should test the LFP Model 3, I'd be curious because of the flat voltage curve on LFP so it'll be interesting how accurate BMS is at 0%. Also maybe don't charge it to 100% for a while to see if it gets confused.
20:20 Parking brake is working off 12V system and maybe ioniq team knew about 12v problems so first thing it does is puts on parking break because "minute later" you might not be able to do it if 12V is discharged.
Good work.
Thank you for doing this so we don't have to :)
left side is the right side... for stopping on the road
Can you do it with a 40 kwh leaf? U can lend mine for the test in Oslo if you want!
nice idea with the fan for the external battery!
Btw, There is the possibility in the settings to charge the 12V battery on a regulare basis from the HV battery while the car is parked.
This does drain hardly anything from th HV battery, mine lost only 0,5% while beeing parked for 5 weeks.
I wonder how Teslas or other modern EV's handle this, has this feature become standard anyway?
Thanks and kind regards, Karl
I`m looking forward to these "zero battery tests" in winter. Will the BMW i4 still do 33km below 0% SoC ?
Very interesting video which shows how controllable the classic IONIQ is. And how bad many Delta chargers actually are. For years, the charger in this region has only been able to deliver a maximum of 56KW, although it is supposed to be able to deliver 150KW. 🤦🏼♂️
I also have Hyundai Ioniq 28 kWh.
What is the highest odometer reading you have seen on a 2017 Ioniq EV? Thank you
Enjoying the below 0% series, but you forgot to put the hood up and where’s the OBD?
You should change your channelname from Tesla Björn to Killer Björn :D
Very interesting videos. Any plans to revisit certain cars in the winter?
I possess an Ioniq 28 KWH Electric vehicle. While attempting to charge it using AC, the connection failed, and the car did not receive a charge. I encountered the same issue when trying CCS, and the cable appears to be in good condition. What might be causing this problem?
Please, tests some leafs 😁
Is there any test of this car after 200000 km? Or max age?
What is the BMS SOC when the car dies?
would be smart do drain the battery uphill and then recharge while rolling down. curious if it works.
One time I was driving the Ioniq down to 4% but I did not notice turtle mode. I was pretty scared so already went so slow. Although, I knew that all of the EV-s have some buffer below 0%, happy that we did not have to try.
Can you do that with ZOE? The Zoe is quite "picky" with AC current and the earthing/grounding...
Yes, and you might need earth rod even with VW MEB platform... very useful test.
No
I'm wandering how he could legally get a tow hook, when Ioniq is not homologated with tow hook. This is the reason I haven't bought it.
You can still use a tow hook for things like bicycle racks even when the car has not been homologated for towing trailers
was a charge power limit set in the IONIQ? Because it was charging only with 8A instead of 10?
Please do it also with a Tesla MR SR with LFP Battery.
best thumbnails ever
My ioniq (2018) charged 65kw from zero on 150kw charger,.
I miscalculated range and been stranded on highway, tow truck to the rescue😜.
Nice test Bjorn! Are you going to do the same test on Polestar 2 LRDM !?
Hey Bjorn, can you do the same test with a older Tesla m3p?
Will you try 0% test with Millenium Falcon?
Yes
Great and informative video. My Ecoflow Delta Max, wich I bougth, december stopped working a week ago. :-(
Please do this with Polestar 2 LR SM.
I would be very happy🤓
Friday guys!🌞
Hey guys, what app is Bjorn using at 12:10 ?
Car Scanner
Mine is the 40.4kw (2021) model with 38.3kw (usable). Wonders if the reserve is (2kw) & how much it could go at 0%… 🤔
*kWh
Where did your buddy buy the 12V type c with indicator from? :) That would be usefull for me as well. Im also from Norway.
Aliexpress
You should try to bring some dry-ice to cool down the ecoflow👍 that will cool it down efficiently👍🙂
dry ice ... in a car? No, thank you. If you don't know how to handle it, it could kill you. That's frozen CO gas.
Hei Bjørn, do a EQV test, 100kW battery and 90kW available. Would be interesting to see how it behaves.
*kWh
M3 propulsion please Mister Bjorn 😉
13:04 226V * 8.8A is 1988W 🤷 not only 1.8kW
I have a new game, every time you say ‘onlyfans’ i will drink 5 shots !
Hi Bjorn, great videos. Can you do it with classic E-Golf 24KW?
*24 kWh
Now do the MG ZS EV Mk1.
Could you test next Nissan Leaf 40kw? It will be interesting to see how far it will go beyond 0%.
*40 kWh
byd tang ev
stranded video sounds wierd
I own the same car with the same battery I wonder why does mines take 24 hours to house charge this one says 14 almost 15 hours 😞
Different region, depends on the “granny” cable used; UK is 10A Schuko is 13A America is 120v and not enough amps.
@@edc1569 thanks for the information
big like on the new google sheeeet
Can we see you charging one car from another? Have you already done it?
ruclips.net/video/MeDKGw87FvQ/видео.html
in Korea and Germany there are some IONIQs specially equipped by Hyundai with a 20kW CCS-Charger so one car can charge another via CCS
What is the max power of this charger? Where is it?
This Ecoflow has a 2.4kW output and a battery capacity of 2kWh
@@nakfan sorry, I was asking about Mer(?) and only 50kW.
At these low charging speeds from the EcoFlow, the Tesla charged slightly faster but a smaller percentage of energy actually made it into the car's battery. Around 76% on the Tesla vs. 86% on this Ioniq. Just another example of Tesla's worse wall-to-wheels efficiency when including charging losses and parked vampire drain.
Tesla actually had 2 kW going into the battery. The reason why it was lower here was because the car was on.
ruclips.net/video/iqFMEO7W_D4/видео.html
What about increasing electricity prices and owning ev?
Still cheaper than dinosaur juice tho
And we have to do something about climate change. Soon you will have no choice anyway. For example, California just outlawed the sale of ICE cars starting on 2035. What California does often drives the US market.
Lets rephrase the question, to how about having fossil fuel vehicle with ever increasing fuel prices?
BTW, I have a fossil car, no money for EV :(
I know how we can solve EVs range problem! We can put an engine or a generator in it's frunck....wait a minute....
years later i still don't get why there is no version with more kwh of battery. 235km with only 28kwh.
There is a 38 kWh version.
@@bjornnyland yeah, but still less than 64kwh of the kona.
Haha 😂 "gullhår i rævva"
What's going on with the Micky 🐁 ears in the back 🔙 seat?
Extra support for children in the seat.
Wire on solar panels reduces a lot the electricity you can get
🙂🙂👍
State of health: 100% what a great car.
Incorrect value. Real SoH is 94-95
How the he*# do you have the time to make all these videos?😅
Imagine that this your only job. 40h/week isn't enough? ;)
Easy. I quit being an office rat and I have a lot more time available for making videos.
@@bjornnyland 😂
Is that a question
@@bjornnyland I guess so.
First 👍🏻