@Hollywood Dreams A lot more than what they did. There were clear signs that he needed professional help when he was a teen - before he was an adult. EDIT: 2 Years later, I'm less certain of my opinion on this. They did get him some kind of counselling or therapy. Even I can't be sure about what else Elliot's parents should have done.
Parents get exhausted too and sometimes just can't help enough. I was very suicidal for about ten years in my youth and my parents first helped and put me to therapy etc and even hospital care but after some time they gave up, they were done and started getting ill too. But his father does seem very odd though...
@@frankcamacho4601 you said he got lucky; meaning everyone else is unlucky and goes on killing rampage to the local store or whatever. And before insulting someone else, look at yourself
@@mrdragonage7446 what do you prefer? Having an abusive father or no one at all? You are lucky not having a father compared with this case. Not knowing your father is not comparable to years of abuse
I don’t agree with the views here You are drawing conclusions from the way he talks about Eliot. You forget- this isn’t a conversation in the corner of a pub with friends. This interview is on RUclips, possibly TV. Everyone is watching including the victims+ family of victims Elliot was clearly in the wrong and I can understand why he mentioned the victims first. If he went out and said “I’m so sad, my boy Elliot was such an intelligent boy I loved him” and then hardly mention the victims he would get eviscerated by the same people who are saying he’s a psychopath now
Typical English guy you find in the middle classes, obsessed with status and climbing the career and wealth ladder. Believe you me, I've ran into a few in my time and family come second with some of these guys especially after a divorce where they can be nice and remote / distant.
@@eternally6659 really there ae two factors that played into his death. The first would be his dad's behaviour and the second was Elliot Rodger's insanity. Really his dad's love would be the only thing to prevent all of this. Good parenting; it's a great thing.
It’s because his social morals supersedes his family obligations. His concern is for the people who he murdered because he knows his son is an awful person and no longer wants any association.
Dad appears to have narcissistic personality. Never talks about love of his son, talks about the nightmare for himself etc etc. dad was a big part of the problem.
Jeremy is right Torre, if you read his story he wrote about his life, from what he wrote, his dad was never a very loving person towards Elliot. And I love how he says "We never saw this coming". From that same book, Elliot tells how he spoke with his father on many occasions how he couldn't get laid, how angry that got him, how we used to go on websites that had this sort of "killing people because you can't get laid" vibe, and his father dismissed it. All Elliot needed was a decent father figure in his life, and he probably would have made it through just fine. Don't get me wrong, Elliot Rodgers is narcissistic, racist and spoilt, but he had no one to really talk about his problems with. He couldn't talk to his mother because she was female, and that was half the problem, so he needed his father, and he attempted to reach out to him, and his father retracted. When you read his book, at first, the thought of hurting others really disturbed him. He hated it. It's only when his problems were left to fester, when his urge to hurt others grew. His father was half the problem, and this video proves that his father didn't care about him, hell listen to him, sounds like he's reading it off a script.
It's interesting to see people have a go at the father as if he was responsible for this, if we are moving the blame up, then maybe we should also look at why the father is like this?
No. But when you subject a child to years and years and years of neglect by way of narcissism and participation trophies, this is how you're doing more damage than good as a parent. Thats not to say the kid didnt have some physiological imbalances of some sort... but when you listen to Elliot speak... it sounds very much like a child who was raised in a bubble, and once greeted with the real world... couldnt cope. It's not justifying the kids actions by any means, but based on the way his father speaks of him and if you read about his fathers personality just a little bit, its pretty clear the kid dealt with a narcissistic father.
***** Elliot Rodgers actually had a mental disorder and had therapy throughout most of his life, albeit unsuccessful but he was not right in the mind. This kid was broken and his misconceptions about life and people were because of his mental illness NOT because he was spoiled, socially awkward and just couldn't get laid.
His dad is a shameful pitiful individual, he made clear what kind of man he really is in his manifesto, and this interview proves he was 100% an uncaring piece of crap.
You are absolutely right. He gives two shits and a fuck about those people. His facial expression shows it. The whole time he had a "scowl" on during the interview. Someone with remorse has sadder eyes. His eyes and brow looked like someone who was angry about being embarrassed.
He could you tell the dad was Jewish? He's not Jewish. His father was a World War II photographer named George Rodger who was of Scottish descent. And a lot of Scots have curly hair; I think it's the Scottish trait that makes up Peter's hairstyle.
He fucking killed 6 people and wrote a 138 pg manifesto talking how he was going to kill his little brother “because he didn’t want him to outman him” think before you speak you fool
@@test0072, dude, I read part of the manifesto, do you actually think he was born as a ego centric maniac from the start? It was a result of bullying and no support from parents. Like think about it, he played WoW 14 hours per day, literally cried a lot about changing schools and he didn't want to socialize and parents didn't see that or try to resolve this?! What is it if not a shitty parenting
@@romanumo2 he’s not the only person who has been bullied in this world he’s just a wick ass that’s it, the parents tried to help him but he wanted everyone to come to him easy that bitch was wearing designers and driving a bmw he didn’t buy that his parents did
+Raisinbrain It follows logically since he apparently didn't care for his son throughout his lifetime. Sure, he cares now, because it's embarrassing and horrifying. But prior to the shootings, the Rodgers' just wanted Elliot out of the way. Very common story.
+Hitch Slap Elliot was a grown up and likely acted like a spoilt brat. What was his father supposed to do? His parents wanted him to get out and get some life experience so he could be independent. They were helping him, they just didn't realise the full extent of his mental issues because he was very good at hiding what he felt and thought.
+Raisinbrain I wouldn't care about my son if he killed and injured people. Hell I'd be glad the fucker's dead. Killers aren't worth living, why feel bad for them? Be glad he's dead.
***** Point taken. The fact is, people are getting knocked up, spitting out unwanted babies, and this is all too often one of the consequences now. Elliot was one of those unwanted, lonely people. Add mental instability to emotional baggage, and you just might get a murderous rage. In this case, that's exactly what happened. People need to start caring about the children they're bringing into the world. XBox and a Pop Tart won't cut it.
And what are you, little dipshit? I bet you don't even do your laundry yourself and you judge someone else's parenting by watching a 2 min footage of them? how patchetic you dumb fuck
Trogrim Yoosh, If you read Elliot's manifesto, he talks about how cold his father was toward him. If you did any research at all before cussing people on the internet you would know that
Trogrim Yoosh Did you read his diary? About how his family bought stuff for him instead of spending time with him? About how his father went to side with some young morocco chick that hated the kid?
Phillip Smith She didn't hate him. In an email to Elliot she explained how she tried her very best to get along with him, because she loved him like her own child. But he rejected her every time.
eternally I don’t know how old you are, but if you are an adult, it all depends on what you do with that “gift” mate. There comes a point where it is no longer your parents’s fault, but your own of not working on your issues. Get well mate!
Noone mentioned how stressful constant moving from one location to another is for young kids. First they moved from Britain to USA, then his parents divorced and they were moving every year to a different house and Elliot had to switch between his mother´s house and his father´s house every couple of days or every week. He had zero stability in his life. His anxiety obviously came from this, then the neglect from his father and bullying at school finished it. This could never end up well. In all the cases of serial or mass murderers, there´s always something traumatic in their life. Sometimes it can be something what adults don´t perceive as traumatising (like constant moving) but it´s very stressful for children. The younger kids are, the more stability, safety and routine they need.
EVERYONE SAYING IT’S THE DAD’S FAULT… think about what you’re saying. Anyone capable of doing what Elliot did was never safe. I know loads of people with AWFUL parents. My best friend had a 2 litre glass jug smashed over his head by his heroin addict mother and I saw it with my very own eyes. He didn’t go on a murder rampage later in life. Yes this is just one example, but fucking hell think about what you’re saying… Elliot Dodgey was never stable and never safe. Hell his dad probs fuckin tried with his son but he was probs too much of a freak. Ya’ll need to think about what you’re saying.
Thought the exact same thing. He is trying to express emotions and his language is really strange. Like he is using sad words (died, injured, terrorized, pain, suffering, etc.) way to often to make the opposite believe what he is saying.
Dad describes how he felt post murders quite well actually. In the real world that's exactly how a person who feels destroyed by this horrible loss would feel. One of the big problems with comments are those who think it's just something on video, many cannot comprehend that a human is actually going thru something. And the horrid stupid overly dramatically edited fools lots of ignorant viewers. Most can't even read this far lol
This guy failed completely as a father. Sure, he most likely didn't expect his son turning into a mass murderer, but man, you've to go down a long road to become something like that - and this father failed completely to accompany his son on his journey through life. What a tragic story.
@@IslamRealm1do you not know how to read, are you hein damaged perhaps? A parents makes a big difference in how a kid turns out, through constant neglect and abuse he grew up very resentful and hateful for everyone around him from the constant bullying, yea he deserves to rot in hell, but his dad is a pos, he definitely has massive fault for how his son turned out
@@IslamRealm1 retard, he became a lonely hateful killer because of the environment he grew up in. "We tought hes gonna kill himself but not that he will kill others"-doesnt raise any red flags for you?
I watch a lot videos of elliot & his mother help making him go crazy she put so much hate on him specially on his dad but people are used to seen women talking 💩 about her ex so her kids can hate their parents specially when the father already move on & found someone to love..
the shooter's name is elliot. you didnt really answer his question. Dramatics being, shooting up a campus and killing people/themselves. The answer is narcissistic belief that their life is injustice and taking revenge on everything that they admired but could never grasp. Elliot made quite a few videos about how girls dont want/see him and he basicly means that he has 0 social skills. So he was lonely and thus instead of just killing himself he went so far as to take revenge on existence itself before ending his own. Existence being the thing he longed for for years but could never grasp. (pretty girls, social status etc.) He went after the very thing he admired.
This father indulged his kid with material stuff, but *never* took the time to get to know his social and mental state. And he never looked at the warped Hollywood culture from which Elliot Rodger emerged.
GormyBear Where did you get the idea that I justified anything that savage kid did? But if these indulgent Hollyleft parents actually *raised* their kid rather than being so self absorbed.....
+Cali Curmudgeon I don't know why Hollywood gets branded as a mecca of liberalism. There are a lot, and I mean a lot of conservative people in Hollywood. The liberalism that's reflected in Hollywood is social liberalism, and that's because of the nature of storytelling. It's a liberal art. This father is not a Hollywood success story. He had money and was doing good for himself, but he wasn't Hollywood royalty. The culture you're describing is a small one. Not everyone in Hollywood is wealthy. It's an industry, and they clock in at the beginning of the day and clock out when it's over. This whole liberal v. conservatism (which your photo clearly suggests... I mean, my god) is hogwash. Leftist parents are not better or worse than conservative parents.
"They thought that he would take his own life, but never thought he would kill others" That line plus how his dad talks about his dead son weather he killed people or not... .It kind of shows the relationship his dad had with him.
Elliott should have just taken his own life, instead of murdering six innocent people. I HATE people who pity that vile murder, YOU @TomAndersonDH are a sick demented excuse for a human being.
Seems like he didnt know anything about his own son or even took the time to spend time with him. He gave him money and bought expensive things for him and probably thought that was what being a good father is about.
So they thought he might take his own life but they didn't do anything about it. Wow there's some good parenting. It also seems strange as to how the father talks about his son as if they are unrelated - like it's not his son.
@Cassie K being his father he's associated by default. I would hope any decent person would testify against a family member who committed a serious crime. Lapping up media attention in this situation as this man does is bizarre and increases his association with his son.
Mr. Rodger: "We didn't see this coming." Barbara: "Did you know he was sick?" Mr. Rodger: "No. We left him in his room alone from age 4 on, and told him to behave himself and play his video games like a good lad." Barbara: "Did you hug him? Talk to him? Help him learn to believe in himself and form healthy social connections?" Mr. Rodger: "Who has time for that? I was busy chasing skirts and saving money for my BMW and Elliot's BMW. I didn't think the lad needed a hug or a chat, no."
+Hitch Slap If you watch the full video she asks did you love Elliot and he says "I ADORED Elliot. The years up until Elliot was FIVE were so amazing!" Well yeah but when he as six you took up with that other women instead of his mother and moved out when he was 7..... And hired his first shrink when he was 8.
@@RonnyDoplo I read it. Its a rough read not gonna lie, and I feel anyone can identify to some things. Those who are so quick to condone this kid definitely havent read the whole thing. I have. And man, this kid had it seriously rough.
@@necroplastful That's a lie.I've had it worse then elliot rodger and im not gonna fucking murder people. I read the manifesto,litterally the only worse things that happened to him was that he was bullied. that's litterally it.
@@necroplastfulYeah, but the premise of his entire manifesto is taking revenge on the women who never gave him sex, and the men who lived a better life than him. Plenty of people have family issues like Elliot did and go on to be well-adjusted everyday people. I can sympathize with some things, but it was mostly about sex and jealousy
im left with a bad taste in my mouth after seeing this guy all but deny HIS son repeatedly. He seems insincere and trying to save himself from any responsibility he should shoulder. He is trying to appear more sympathetic to the victims but not his own son who was also a victim too. Yes the son committed horrible murders of inncents, but im commenting on this so called father, its clear he didnt know his son at all.
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+honeycat535 he never love him let alone consider him his son.............sad story then rodger took his own life crazy ....but real very true........rip elliot. he was lost soul. it takes guts to take a bullet to ur head one thing to say another thing to do
Its also about the enviroment. By not having a father figure in his life he cant mimic the father he looks up to. With no father he tries to be like his mom at a young age. You know in sigmund freuds psycho dynamic theory when a child is around 3 or something im not sure, its been a while. The child feels sexual attraction towards the opposite sex of its parent. You probably heard young female kids wanting to marry their father and males, their mothers. Elliot couldnt evolve
He was also contantly bullied and he always felt like he had to live up to the societys expectations like having a girlfriend or any sexual interaction. Anyways conclusion: true not everyone turns into a mass murdering maniac but it really depends on the people that can influence his life and mostly the enviroment
Ice Flakes Environment only does so much, when you have 1000 dollar apartments multiple, higher end cars cars and gold necklaces as gifts and could afford to eat expensive sushi, get first class tickets and stay in top line hotels, I'd say the worth thing his father did was give him too much, pr maybe it was the mother. Even the guns he used totaled more than 1.5k. Never even mentioned that in the manifesto. There's this constant thing where he is saying I am persecuted, I am invisible. But he never details specifics or indeed any interactions except for one where he instigated violence first and got fucked right up by some total brah who did the world a favor and broke his ankle. Name an instance of bullying he went though. He wasn't a Columbine type he was a narcissistic aspie with a persecution complex. NO form of parenting can fix the kind of guy who gets genuinely jealous of a little brother over shit that he MIGHT be able to do later on and plans to kill them. Honestly it's a miracle he didn't get outright bashed by some civilly minded type but then that's probably because for all the shit he had to type in that manifesto he by ALL accounts, meaning every roommate, every acquaintance, ever ex friend said he was all mono syllabic in answers and never said shit till he was drunk enough to slur. The autistic fuck should have started his spree with himself and spared more important people the indignity of being associated with him.
Most normal parents of children who commit a horrible act don't condone their actions but still love their child regardless. This guy could not care less about his kid, paints him as a villain, trys to distance himself from his son by basically calling him a monster. You can tell he never loved his son, he was just a annoying distraction in his life. No wonder Elliott had the mindset he had, he never stood a chance with parents like this.
@@Falconer22I think it very likely that Elliot Rodger wasn’t born a misogynist. He clearly seems to have grown as such because of environmental causes, his parents being among them. Of course, it can be hard to know who he might have become instead because he never got the love and sex he desired, but I doubt that he would have ran amok if he had gotten what he wanted.
EVERYONE SAYING IT’S THE DAD’S FAULT… think about what you’re saying. Anyone capable of doing what Elliot did was never safe. I know loads of people with AWFUL parents. My best friend had a 2 litre glass jug smashed over his head by his heroin addict mother and I saw it with my very own eyes. He didn’t go on a murder rampage later in life. Yes this is just one example, but fucking hell think about what you’re saying… Elliot Dodgey was never stable and never safe. Hell his dad probs fuckin tried with his son but he was probs too much of a freak. Ya’ll need to think about what you’re saying.
@@hatesitrick I did think about it tho. Even empathize w/ the dude. Some ppl see sh and hate it and make a promise to themselves never become it. Some ppl see hate, & let it define it for them. Your surroundings do influence if its intentional/unintentional good/bad. It still molds u. I mean, Elliot is a coward. But his dad def didn't help either. Caallleedd iiiittt
I am sorry, I do not wish to pass judgment on anyone, as I know that many parents do their absolute best and their child still slips into the darkness somehow - but this man is just terrible to me. To say that you wish your son was never born? My god. Say that you wish he had never done the wrongs he committed, but to say that? In his manifesto Elliot wrote how his parents told him that he was an "accident". So I guess that it's not surprising that his father feels this way - he was pretty cruel to his son from the start in my honest opinion. And to arrogantly claim that you "never saw this coming"???? His son was in therapy for YEARS, and his mother called the police on him about a week prior to the murders, not to mention that the cops were called when he broke his ankle at that party and his parents were notified about the incident. It's true that he may have kept his "darker side" hidden, but signs were there and to claim you had NO idea? And then to spend the rest of the interview just feeling sorry for yourself? And everyone calls Elliot a narcissist? He was supposed to be mentally ill, what is his father's excuse?
that sums it up.. perfectly... telling him HE was an accident... Putting ELLIOT in therapy at 7 years old? Making Elliot feel inadequate on his own in the world is not a good way to start school or college.
Jimbo j Exactly. His father really should NOT have done a public interview. He claims that he is doing it for the noble reason of trying to prevent another incident such as this, but does he really believe that feeling sorry for himself and telling Barbara Walters how "tough" he is having it on national television is going to stop future crime? It seems that he is rather narcissistic himself. And after telling Elliot that he was an accident at a young age, is it really such a stretch to now say that you wish he had never been born? I wouldn't think so, and yet he acts like Ms. Walters question is SO difficult for him. I agree with the other poster here who said that he seems kind of phony. I hate to judge the way that I am here, as I know it isn't easy dealing with mental/emotional illness, but I do believe that his parents could have given the situation more attention and not just thrown "toys" at Elliot for 22 years.
Serenadesong I am actually not pleased with the interview. She didn't ask any questions about many things that many of us are trying to figure out. Not once did his father say oh I miss him, or cry, or anything. This interview wasn't as good as I expected it to be.
The only problem Elliot ever suffered was anxiety which led to social awkwardness. And in this day in age, if you're socially awkward, you're kinda fucked. Society and a mix of media employs too much the idea of FRIENDS and socializing as a necessity in human life.
But you don't become a mass murderer by just being socially awkward. He had problems and saw a therapist for most of his life. And really, after seeing some of his videos, I'd say they show some signs of him being a psychopath. He thinks he's great and magnificent, doesn't seem to know that murder is something bad (which means he wasn't conscious of guilt), which also shows his lack of empathy, and so on.
GIRLonMW2 yea. im afraid that we have to leave the capitalist society which leads to troubled people all over globe. - We all do affect each-other somehow... Maybe there is some other ideology that tries to interact the system into the human civilization instead of vice-versa
He talks about him as if he's not even human. Neglect can drive a good souled person to insanity and complete contempt of people because of the pain they've been inflicted. Parents like these are what causes evil in some young adults.
@@mrbluesky4838To the contrary.....most parents will do anything to condone continuing a relationship with their children who committ horrific acts....
This man is more concerned about the people that have been killed by Elliot than his own son. Listen to what he's really saying. He had no proper attachment to his son.
They had a therapist for him since like age 8. Once he turned 18 he started refusing treatment. Until he sent out the manifesto you wouldn’t legally be able to push him for care
I have this theory that "bad kids" are really showing you what one or both of their parents are like behind closed doors. Elliot was apparently capable of masking his true nature. Maybe Daddy is too......his sincerity felt a bit phony to me,
***** Socially deluded and mentally disorderd as well. I still don't know all the details that would make me informed about this. Had he been dealing with the mental health establishment? How old was he? He could just walk in and buy guns?! Or did he get them from someone else? Mass shootings are not unknown in Canada either, sadly. Did you hear about the three RCMP officers that were killed July after his? That happened out a three hour drive way from where I live! Shocking! And not the first time that has happened here, either!
Yea the dad kinda sounded like he was talking about a stranger instead with no remorse about his son. Yea its horrible that your son became a monster but usually the parents are still kinda sad he died vs this one. He probably either wasnt there a lot directing movies or he was kind of a douche as a dad
"We knew he was suicidal but never knew he would do something like this!" Elliot: Hey dad, im feeling suicidal Dad: eh go eat some ice cream or something kid im busy having a political argument in the comment section of a Kanye West post on facebook. Leave me alone kid *shoots up a school a week later* Dad: OH MY GOD! The horror! Where is this coming from. I never knew he had this in him!
look at this guy though....not the greatest role model....not defending elliot whatsoever, but this guy doesnt give 2 shits if his son is dead or alive
***** Nailed it. Look at the way he speaks, he never gave a fuck about that kid. If you read what he wrote before he did all this, his father constantly rejected him throughout his life instead of reaching out to him when his son would try and go to him for anything.
***** Defend a murderer?! Doesn't matter if it was his son! There is a line that he crossed to be so hateful and disgusting. If I was the father, I'd speak the same way he is! You raise that kid and then the kid goes off to do that over something so pathetic. He had no sympathy when he made the videos or did the killing so why should his father have sympathy for him?
A E S T H E T I C Narcissists usually won’t admit that there’s „something wrong with them“ mentally, they are not self-aware, especially when it comes to admitting their own flaws/mistakes.
From the outset, he seems genuinely remorseful but dig deeper and he's a typical selfish narcissistic man. All he cares about is how HE feels. The torment HE feels.
I can't believe how irresponsible this guy was. He marries an Asian woman and sires two half Asian kids who are brought up in the West. The girl had no problem, but Elliott.... well, a half Asian guy trying to get a gf in western society, even an Asian girl, is like panning for gold in a junk yard ditch. He abandons his wife and kids when Elliott is but seven yo for his new Caucasian blonde squeeze, give him no parental guidance or any kind of help through the toughest years of his life, and then essentially disowns him in favour of his pure-bred white son. I don't think Elliott's mental problems were innate; I reckon they just built up as reactions to this guy's God-awful, blue pulled dead beat parenting techniques!
kept trying to pawn his son off to lazy psychologists who just wanted money and let his new wife bully his high functioning autistic son. Never really gave him guidance and focused too much on his career
@@Silvia.AraujoMENA are caucasoid, but not European (that’s where white nationalists cut it off at) but yeah Elliot’s brother had better recombination cause you just can’t work with Asian genes at all. Asian genetics can’t make chad looking men.
"Panning for gold in a junk yard ditch"? Sad how that's the way you interpret that kind of scenario. I can understand why, since prejudice would definitely be a factor, but you wrote that like a half-Asian person getting a girlfriend in Western society is impossible, when it most definitely isn't.
@@LuznoLindo it definitely is impossible speaking as a half Asian male myself. Unless you’re super white passing with masculine features like a Keanu Reeves clone or Brandon Lee, Bruce lee’s son.
+Oscar Littlecar yep....that guilt on his face because he knew Elliot was on the verge.... I bet he thought things would work themselves out in time and he would eventually have a girlfriend someday down the road as he continued maturing into adulthood...
A warm hug, a really meaningful friend or mentor who wouldve been there for him wouldve changed his outlook on life. He would still be depressed but atleast not fucked up to kill other and himself. So guys cherish each other. Let your friends know you care for them. Maybe you will prevent another elliot rodger tragedy!!
The sad thing is that most monsters started out as innocent beings. I see the evil in the fathers eyes. In the way he refers to his own son as 'this boy' and I realize that I do understand why this boy ended up the way he did. Unloved, cast out - rejected. I am sorry for him.
Lots of boys are living without a father, without being dangerous for the society. Did his mother create a stable relationship with her former husband, to comfort a emotional demanding son?
Lucas You,the racism guy, killed elliot rodger, elliot rodger is a poor hapa, he is rejected by both whites and Asian. elliot rodger just hoped friendship and love.
Lol well i'd love to see you go back in time to the shooting and tell him that to his face. Easy to talk trash about a dead person but can you do it to someone with a loaded gun pointed at you? "HA HA HEY ELLIOT YOU'RE A PATHETIC VIRGIN INCE --" *BANG BANG BANG BANG*
He's fake, just trying to protect his own image. Clearly didn't know or help his son. Terrible what Elliot did but he was completely lost in society with no support, people like this need help, not condemnation
Think about how often the Elliot kid spent sitting alone in parking lots staring at sunsets and watching people.. then that seed of hatred and resentment grew and grew. His family shouldn't have let him isolate himself.
He cares about his toupee _more_ than he cares about his son. After the shootings, the first person he called was his attorney. He and his wife didn't even visit or check up on their son while he was at UCSB. They sent various people to check on him and report back to them. When will parents be held responsible for the actions of their kids? At some point, you need to raise your kids. Not just shuffle them off and buy them _things_.
A few girls told me if he wasn't a batshit crazy killer, he would actually be kinda cute. I think it comes down to his father simply gave zero fucks about his son, therefore he had no strong father figure and this is what caused him to have such a submissive and feminine personality cause it seems like he would always cry to mommy for help. Was he the image of masculinity? fuck no but I bet if he wasn't a spoiled shit and his parents knew what the fuck they were doing, maybe he would have been one of the normal ones. Still no excuse for killing people though.
It’s like. Oh yeah he’s a bit suicidal but I mean I never thought he would do it. Lol. That shows what’s wrong in society. He’s brain was completely sick, we are lucky no more cases like this are happening, although there are a lot more than we know. America and their gun laws open the gates to hell.
If this cheap bloke would took his son to a brothel at a young age + discussing with him about girls and relationships, nothing of this would happened. Instead he just spoiled the kid and probably he barely talked to him.
doing those things would not prevent a personality disorder or a mental illness, don't act like you know how to prevent a psychological disorder. Because many factors lie into it.
Taken him to a brothel - really??? Now, THERE'S the way to cure mental instability (said no one ever), 'cause we all know that sticking your shlong into a hole will cure anything - however, I do agree that this kid was probably "bought" and basically ignored by the father and that makes for a fairly lonely existence. I have a feeling this poor kid knew about possessions, but not about love or familial stability and that makes for a fairly screwed up personality. For some reason watching this kid's mannerisms as well as his speech patterns, that along with a healthy dose of narcissism (as a defense mechanism), he may have some some closeted homosexual issues, and was really conflicted about it. Not a diagnosis of any kind, but just my humble opinion.
I've read his manifesto, it really does seem like this guy was completely neglectful of his son. Shared equal custody with his ex wife over their kids but was almost always away at work. Even here, he seems more concerned about his reputation than the fact that his own son went astray and died.. Legit not surprised Elliot turned out this way. His dad's exactly how he'd have been if he were able to date
So the father goes on ABC a month later, for what? All i heard was "I , I, I, me, me, me" .. he was clearly trying to save face and salvage his career at the same time, which is likely all he ever cared about. He even disassociates from his son by saying "this boy" to try to skirt culpability. What a slimy lizard scum. A parent is the number one influence, or absense thereof, in a child's life. Looking at this guy and the fact he even went on ABC at all tells you all you need to know about him.
I'm going to be brutally honest here, I think Elliot's strong Asian appearance and the fact he didn't look like his father were factors in his lack of bonding.
Elliot was sick in the head. Writing him off as just a monster solves nothing. There is a worsening mental health crisis that needs immediate attention.
From Elliot Rodger's diary: "Father suffered through a deep financial setback because of his movie. Could things get any worse for me? As a result, my father abruptly cut off all of the child-support payments he was paying my mother. " SEVEN PARAGRAPHS LATER... "To my chagrin, my father decided to take up motorcycle riding. He pulled up to the house one day in a roaring Harley Davidson, and I was completely baffled. "
They knew he was sick. They took him to counsellors, they had him on medication, he told them how lonely he was. And yeah, they moved him to different schools to get away from the bullies, yes they got him a car, yes they took him to hospital when he broke his ankle. But the signs were there, they knew.
I don't blame Elliot, I blame his narcissistic father siding with Sumiya, the invader of the family who isolated Elliot from them, taunting him with the idea that his brother jazz would get girls while Elliot would be denied, and his divorced mother who supported Elliot only as a way to spite his father. He was the creation of these parents who truly cared nothing for him.
I can't help but feeling pity for elliot. He seemed like a guy with a lot of wasted potential. And i can't help thinking that he didn't get enough "real" attention by his parents. I mean 22 and virgin? Who the fuck cares? Why did it even matter to him? It might sound old but it seems like nobody ever told that guy to stay true to himself, to be himself and that sooner or later people would like him that way. I mean just watch his videos, in every video that guy is "acting" like he is some evil mastermind instead of beeing himself. I also blame society that pledges tolerance for every minority day and night but when it comes to actually talk to a person which seems a bit strange at first everybody is hiding. There is no tolerance for "wierdos". If im out with my friends at friday/saturday night and we see someone who seems lonely we generally inviting him for a drink. It's not that hard. Of course some people turn out to be assholes but others are really plain and they are happy that they finally found some friends and people to talk with. Maybe something simple like that could have prevent that horrible tragedy.
Neglect is a horrible form of abuse... This guy is so worried he will be villainized for being Elliot's father that he speaks as if he has so much concern for the victims that he doesn't acknowledge him as his son whatsoever. He just thought he was suicidal? We all see through this facade
This grandiose sense of self, seeing himself as nothing but a victim, this fixation on being intimate with a girl, the incapability of self-reflection and learning from his mistakes, this wish to get even with the world and this feeling of power, knowing what’s coming to these girls but they don’t, the emotional numbness he’s displaying…this guy is way different than a normal person. He looks like someone with a serious mental illness. Some people commented that this is a classic example of narcissistic personality disorder but I think he’s not. This looks more like pathological psychopathy (which in itself is classified by strong narcissistic traits). A usual narcissist would rant or rage when feeling like he has been mistreated but this guy is just straight up cold. No emotion, no conscience which is part of psychopathy. In other videos you can see him talk about how he has the perfect car and perfect life but women still reject him. This guy doesn’t understand what it takes to form an emotional connection to someone because he is literally incapable of doing so. Psychopaths are born without the ability of having a conscience, feeling guilt, shame or fear. It’s because they’re literally missing brain tissue in the parts of their brains where these emotions are produced. Since psychopaths are incapable of empathy, they can only learn to understand human behavior and mimic emotions but can never feel them (so they wouldn’t flirt with a widow on their husband’s funeral because they’ve learned it’s inappropriate) and many get quite good at it, you’d never know. A high functioning psychopath would get girls and be well liked but would never feel anything for them, except a sense of power over them. The father…I don’t even know where to start. No display of real emotions either, bunch of phrases, rationalizing the whole thing and no accountability….Seems like it goes down the family tree…
Lee Jun his kid wouldn't have been so batshit insane if he actually took the time to take care of him. Hollywood executives are the biggest sociopaths on planet Earth
I could be flat out wrong about this, and God forgive me if I am and criticize a man whose son just died, but this dude looks pretty crazy himself. He just gives me a bad vibe. And if he's an abusive narcissist himself, I can see why Elliott turned out as he did.
He comes off to me like he is doing a performance. It seemed sociopathic in nature.....trying to display/act what he thought he should act like in the interview, but it felt forced and fake.
My father wasn't the best, he was poor, tough on me but he made me a man. I didn't lose my virginity til 21, it was up to me to get up off my arse and do what's right, lose weight,get a job, socialise and I was an introvert, I'd go to the Library and only had 1 mate at school. Then I met another kid, he was spoilt to the core, had everything handed to him on a silver platter, 2.5k worth of clothes every 6-12 months, 10 acre farm with nice house, a motorbike, his mother would pay for his drugs so that he won't smash up the house, so I think to myself, tough times create strong men, weak times create weak men who blame others, become too spoilt that they become dangerous to other, elliot had everything thrown at him, gave him no time to progress into a man and learn how the real world worked
He lived in a world that he didn't understand so he made his own mind how the world worked but it depends on the person 🤷 some people can get all the love in the world and become a serial killer, been studying elliot Roger cos I was interested in his documentary and incel documentary and elliot Roger and he is irredeemable, he is vile, his mind twisted and cemented in his toxic incel ways. Elliot couldn't be saved
@@tremainebligh8984 Some people are just pure psychopaths, but as I said, a person like Eliot Rodger clearly went through a lot of trauma. You can't convince me that his parents had nothing to do with him being one.
@KR Gilmore. I have, and I've also heard all his videos. My [informed] opinion was based upon all of that, notwithstanding what he actually did. But thank you for yours though. 👍🏾
I've been on his Dad's facebook, his son is no longer part of his 'friends list'. I can see why he would want to disassociate himself from Elliot but still... ouch.
Yeah, his dad was a prick I am sure but what about Elliot's mother? All we hear about in the media is what a bad Daddy Peter Rodger is, how he turned Elliot out that way, yes I agree that he doesn't deserve father of the year but surely E.R's mother is partially to blame, right? I'm starting to see that we live in a cushion-box society where women are always innocent of any wrongdoing and men are inherently guilty of all evil that occurs, at least in the media's eye. Gr8 job progressives.
RanchWagon Forde He had 2 mothers. He hated his step-mom with a passion but he loved his birth mom who helped him as much as she could. Also he had a close relationship with his grandma.
@@paulinadeluca9117 lol looking thru your comment history i can see you have an extra chromosome "A ChIlDs BeHaViOr DoeSnT cOme OuT oF noWhere" hey dummy you know lot's of people had this issue and never killed anyone?
Yeah but a real parent loves their child no matter what. The parents of a different mass shooter had another reaction compared to elliots father. They said "we miss him so much after so many years"
I promise that you don’t have the skills to guarantee against this situation. Some people might, but not someone who approaches this matter with the bravado you have. This is the type of confidence that only comes from rank ignorance.
"We thought he was just suicidal"
Solid fucking parenting right there.
@Hollywood Dreams A lot more than what they did. There were clear signs that he needed professional help when he was a teen - before he was an adult.
EDIT: 2 Years later, I'm less certain of my opinion on this. They did get him some kind of counselling or therapy. Even I can't be sure about what else Elliot's parents should have done.
Parents get exhausted too and sometimes just can't help enough. I was very suicidal for about ten years in my youth and my parents first helped and put me to therapy etc and even hospital care but after some time they gave up, they were done and started getting ill too. But his father does seem very odd though...
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@@luru1544 There are no excuses for shitty parents.
I mean they had a therapist for him
We thought he might kill himself but never did we think he'd kill others - great excuse there.
Hip Hop Fanatic Poor excuse of a father tbh
@@thebaby9094 u got lucky so quit bitching. Probably why u think this shit is so simple.
@@frankcamacho4601 so everyone who doesn't have a dad goes an a shooting rampage? Lol
@@frankcamacho4601 you said he got lucky; meaning everyone else is unlucky and goes on killing rampage to the local store or whatever. And before insulting someone else, look at yourself
@@mrdragonage7446 what do you prefer? Having an abusive father or no one at all? You are lucky not having a father compared with this case. Not knowing your father is not comparable to years of abuse
He speaks like this wasn’t his son
He was okay if his son kill himself but wasn't okay he killed others. This shows he never love his son
@@testcalibre2507 yeah man i caught that right away when he mentioned the victims first and elliot last
I don’t agree with the views here
You are drawing conclusions from the way he talks about Eliot. You forget- this isn’t a conversation in the corner of a pub with friends. This interview is on RUclips, possibly TV. Everyone is watching including the victims+ family of victims
Elliot was clearly in the wrong and I can understand why he mentioned the victims first. If he went out and said “I’m so sad, my boy Elliot was such an intelligent boy I loved him” and then hardly mention the victims he would get eviscerated by the same people who are saying he’s a psychopath now
@@JohnSmith-jy4qj I totally agree with you
Typical English guy you find in the middle classes, obsessed with status and climbing the career and wealth ladder. Believe you me, I've ran into a few in my time and family come second with some of these guys especially after a divorce where they can be nice and remote / distant.
His son's dead and he's talking about him like he was his young employee.
Sad...he probably stopped loving him a long time ago when it became apparent that his son was abnormal
@@eternally6659 really there ae two factors that played into his death. The first would be his dad's behaviour and the second was Elliot Rodger's insanity. Really his dad's love would be the only thing to prevent all of this. Good parenting; it's a great thing.
@@flinggonza5688 he refers to his own son as "this boy", to me that's a terrible sign.
It’s because his social morals supersedes his family obligations. His concern is for the people who he murdered because he knows his son is an awful person and no longer wants any association.
@Cassie K He was his son. If you can’t understand that, you’re probably a sociopath.
Dad appears to have narcissistic personality. Never talks about love of his son, talks about the nightmare for himself etc etc. dad was a big part of the problem.
Jeremy is right Torre, if you read his story he wrote about his life, from what he wrote, his dad was never a very loving person towards Elliot.
And I love how he says "We never saw this coming". From that same book, Elliot tells how he spoke with his father on many occasions how he couldn't get laid, how angry that got him, how we used to go on websites that had this sort of "killing people because you can't get laid" vibe, and his father dismissed it. All Elliot needed was a decent father figure in his life, and he probably would have made it through just fine.
Don't get me wrong, Elliot Rodgers is narcissistic, racist and spoilt, but he had no one to really talk about his problems with. He couldn't talk to his mother because she was female, and that was half the problem, so he needed his father, and he attempted to reach out to him, and his father retracted.
When you read his book, at first, the thought of hurting others really disturbed him. He hated it. It's only when his problems were left to fester, when his urge to hurt others grew. His father was half the problem, and this video proves that his father didn't care about him, hell listen to him, sounds like he's reading it off a script.
It's interesting to see people have a go at the father as if he was responsible for this, if we are moving the blame up, then maybe we should also look at why the father is like this?
Jeremy Mack so did the son
No. But when you subject a child to years and years and years of neglect by way of narcissism and participation trophies, this is how you're doing more damage than good as a parent. Thats not to say the kid didnt have some physiological imbalances of some sort... but when you listen to Elliot speak... it sounds very much like a child who was raised in a bubble, and once greeted with the real world... couldnt cope.
It's not justifying the kids actions by any means, but based on the way his father speaks of him and if you read about his fathers personality just a little bit, its pretty clear the kid dealt with a narcissistic father.
You must be an awesome dad.
This man did not know his own son. Too busy wanting to do everything, but be a father.
Well said!
There is still no excuse for what he did
***** Elliot Rodgers actually had a mental disorder and had therapy throughout most of his life, albeit unsuccessful but he was not right in the mind. This kid was broken and his misconceptions about life and people were because of his mental illness NOT because he was spoiled, socially awkward and just couldn't get laid.
Kyle Escovedo Oh you guys were friends?
No but if you read on about who he was they explain that he was in fact mentally ill
'every night i go to sleep...and then i wake up'
+George Toogood bruh
Holy shit
How do you manage?
Ivan Benja huh
George Toogood How is it possible for you to go to sleep every night and wake up?
Father says “ This Boy” He disassociated from his own son…
What a horrific shame 🤢
A present dad would have said my boy
MissLachine 0:36 0:40 okay buddy
I fucking would.
His dad is a shameful pitiful individual, he made clear what kind of man he really is in his manifesto, and this interview proves he was 100% an uncaring piece of crap.
Some how I dont believe a word he says as sincere as he sounds.
He talks like a actor on stage, it's strange, i can feel it as well
Especially when he says the line "my son is a mass murderer" at 1:10 it's like a movie
He really does, I got that feeling from the first sentence
you will when your children did such horrible things
You are absolutely right. He gives two shits and a fuck about those people. His facial expression shows it. The whole time he had a "scowl" on during the interview. Someone with remorse has sadder eyes. His eyes and brow looked like someone who was angry about being embarrassed.
His dad doesn't even sound like he has any emotions, it just sounds scripted
yup
ON HIM?! You had sex on him???? That doesn't even make sense... how big is your son??
Then again this guy's a film director.
He could you tell the dad was Jewish? He's not Jewish. His father was a World War II photographer named George Rodger who was of Scottish descent. And a lot of Scots have curly hair; I think it's the Scottish trait that makes up Peter's hairstyle.
No just English.
"Every night I go to sleep... and I wake up."
lmao I'm dying
Seclusion™ eh.
Seclusion™ I can relate
same
#relatable
Seclusion™ you're an insensitive fuck, sometimes I go to sleep and I don't get up, it's normal
"I wish I never had him"
You didn't deserve a child at all.
psyop
He fucking killed 6 people and wrote a 138 pg manifesto talking how he was going to kill his little brother “because he didn’t want him to outman him” think before you speak you fool
Ans so does Elliot,who didn't deserve to be treat like a normal person,very less like upper than us
@@test0072, dude, I read part of the manifesto, do you actually think he was born as a ego centric maniac from the start? It was a result of bullying and no support from parents. Like think about it, he played WoW 14 hours per day, literally cried a lot about changing schools and he didn't want to socialize and parents didn't see that or try to resolve this?! What is it if not a shitty parenting
@@romanumo2 he’s not the only person who has been bullied in this world he’s just a wick ass that’s it, the parents tried to help him but he wanted everyone to come to him easy that bitch was wearing designers and driving a bmw he didn’t buy that his parents did
he seems to not care about his son dying just about what he did to others
+Raisinbrain
It follows logically since he apparently didn't care for his son throughout his lifetime. Sure, he cares now, because it's embarrassing and horrifying. But prior to the shootings, the Rodgers' just wanted Elliot out of the way. Very common story.
+Hitch Slap Elliot was a grown up and likely acted like a spoilt brat. What was his father supposed to do? His parents wanted him to get out and get some life experience so he could be independent. They were helping him, they just didn't realise the full extent of his mental issues because he was very good at hiding what he felt and thought.
*****
He posted his feelings all over RUclips in the days leading up to his shooting rampage. So, there's that.
+Raisinbrain I wouldn't care about my son if he killed and injured people. Hell I'd be glad the fucker's dead. Killers aren't worth living, why feel bad for them? Be glad he's dead.
*****
Point taken. The fact is, people are getting knocked up, spitting out unwanted babies, and this is all too often one of the consequences now. Elliot was one of those unwanted, lonely people. Add mental instability to emotional baggage, and you just might get a murderous rage. In this case, that's exactly what happened. People need to start caring about the children they're bringing into the world. XBox and a Pop Tart won't cut it.
Parents aren't always to blame for how their kids turn out but in this case I feel like his father had a huge part.
And what are you, little dipshit? I bet you don't even do your laundry yourself and you judge someone else's parenting by watching a 2 min footage of them? how patchetic you dumb fuck
Trogrim Yoosh, If you read Elliot's manifesto, he talks about how cold his father was toward him. If you did any research at all before cussing people on the internet you would know that
Trogrim Yoosh
Yikes, embarassed yourself.
Trogrim Yoosh Did you read his diary? About how his family bought stuff for him instead of spending time with him? About how his father went to side with some young morocco chick that hated the kid?
Phillip Smith
She didn't hate him. In an email to Elliot she explained how she tried her very best to get along with him, because she loved him like her own child. But he rejected her every time.
Is it just me, or does Elliot's father look like he could make a great actor in movies? He looks like he could be a perfect villain!
his father is a director
+Rajenkjn well, hes a filmmaker. same difference. his most notable work to date is the hunger games( the first one). his name is peter rodgers
Pete Maravich NO WAY!!! he is the director of the hunger games???!! bruh
+Tim Hortons not with that hair.
+Tim Hortons Haha, because he's British? XD
Elliots parents probably neglected him emotionally from a very young age, resulting in him developing a personality disorder.
I have a PD, and my parents weren't around emotionally as well...little me thought I had to depend on myself 🙁 my parents don't even know
eternally I don’t know how old you are, but if you are an adult, it all depends on what you do with that “gift” mate. There comes a point where it is no longer your parents’s fault, but your own of not working on your issues. Get well mate!
Noone mentioned how stressful constant moving from one location to another is for young kids. First they moved from Britain to USA, then his parents divorced and they were moving every year to a different house and Elliot had to switch between his mother´s house and his father´s house every couple of days or every week.
He had zero stability in his life. His anxiety obviously came from this, then the neglect from his father and bullying at school finished it. This could never end up well.
In all the cases of serial or mass murderers, there´s always something traumatic in their life. Sometimes it can be something what adults don´t perceive as traumatising (like constant moving) but it´s very stressful for children. The younger kids are, the more stability, safety and routine they need.
EVERYONE SAYING IT’S THE DAD’S FAULT… think about what you’re saying. Anyone capable of doing what Elliot did was never safe. I know loads of people with AWFUL parents. My best friend had a 2 litre glass jug smashed over his head by his heroin addict mother and I saw it with my very own eyes. He didn’t go on a murder rampage later in life. Yes this is just one example, but fucking hell think about what you’re saying… Elliot Dodgey was never stable and never safe. Hell his dad probs fuckin tried with his son but he was probs too much of a freak. Ya’ll need to think about what you’re saying.
@@eternally6659 you didn’t go and shoot up a school though did you
The father is definetely a psychopath... He was acting and trying to convey emotions he does not experience. Scary stuff
Thought the exact same thing. He is trying to express emotions and his language is really strange. Like he is using sad words (died, injured, terrorized, pain, suffering, etc.) way to often to make the opposite believe what he is saying.
Like Shakespeare said, he doth protest too much.
It was just edited weirdly
Good ol' armchair psychologists, what would we do without you?
Dad describes how he felt post murders quite well actually. In the real world that's exactly how a person who feels destroyed by this horrible loss would feel. One of the big problems with comments are those who think it's just something on video, many cannot comprehend that a human is actually going thru something. And the horrid stupid overly dramatically edited fools lots of ignorant viewers. Most can't even read this far lol
Terrible father right here.
You have no clue what you're talking about
+PerfectSnowball Did you read my twisted world?
Oh really how long have you known him?
Not a terrible father Elliot Rodger was just a Narcissist
@@addictedtobobamilktea Yeah and what makes people narcissist's? PARENTS
This guy failed completely as a father. Sure, he most likely didn't expect his son turning into a mass murderer, but man, you've to go down a long road to become something like that - and this father failed completely to accompany his son on his journey through life. What a tragic story.
Elliot was a grown man it’s his fault
@@IslamRealm1do you not know how to read, are you hein damaged perhaps? A parents makes a big difference in how a kid turns out, through constant neglect and abuse he grew up very resentful and hateful for everyone around him from the constant bullying, yea he deserves to rot in hell, but his dad is a pos, he definitely has massive fault for how his son turned out
@@IslamRealm1 retard, he became a lonely hateful killer because of the environment he grew up in. "We tought hes gonna kill himself but not that he will kill others"-doesnt raise any red flags for you?
I watch a lot videos of elliot & his mother help making him go crazy she put so much hate on him specially on his dad but people are used to seen women talking 💩 about her ex so her kids can hate their parents specially when the father already move on & found someone to love..
Can't even imagine how much of a failure yall think Stalin's dad was lol
Hmmm wonder where Elliot's dramatics came from. Jesus.
n. p. N
the shooter's name is elliot. you didnt really answer his question. Dramatics being, shooting up a campus and killing people/themselves.
The answer is narcissistic belief that their life is injustice and taking revenge on everything that they admired but could never grasp.
Elliot made quite a few videos about how girls dont want/see him and he basicly means that he has 0 social skills.
So he was lonely and thus instead of just killing himself he went so far as to take revenge on existence itself before ending his own.
Existence being the thing he longed for for years but could never grasp. (pretty girls, social status etc.) He went after the very thing he admired.
Creep made a creep.
It's fucking Hollywood. What did you fucking expect?
Elliot is from an artistic bloodline.
This father indulged his kid with material stuff, but *never* took the time to get to know his social and mental state. And he never looked at the warped Hollywood culture from which Elliot Rodger emerged.
***** But you see, Hollywood *is* that negative aspect of american culture that you mention, on steroids.
Oh no did poor Elliot not get enough attention from daddy? Completely justifies murdering 6 people.
GormyBear Where did you get the idea that I justified anything that savage kid did? But if these indulgent Hollyleft parents actually *raised* their kid rather than being so self absorbed.....
Yep
+Cali Curmudgeon I don't know why Hollywood gets branded as a mecca of liberalism. There are a lot, and I mean a lot of conservative people in Hollywood. The liberalism that's reflected in Hollywood is social liberalism, and that's because of the nature of storytelling. It's a liberal art. This father is not a Hollywood success story. He had money and was doing good for himself, but he wasn't Hollywood royalty. The culture you're describing is a small one. Not everyone in Hollywood is wealthy. It's an industry, and they clock in at the beginning of the day and clock out when it's over.
This whole liberal v. conservatism (which your photo clearly suggests... I mean, my god) is hogwash. Leftist parents are not better or worse than conservative parents.
"They thought that he would take his own life, but never thought he would kill others" That line plus how his dad talks about his dead son weather he killed people or not... .It kind of shows the relationship his dad had with him.
He is a jerk, big fat period 🔴
No it doesn’t
Yeah, it doesn't
@Arthur Atanazio How not?
Elliott should have just taken his own life, instead of murdering six innocent people. I HATE people who pity that vile murder, YOU @TomAndersonDH are a sick demented excuse for a human being.
perfect example of every child needs a parent but not every one should be a parent
No
elliot was literally a grown ass adult, it’s not the parents.
You mean “….but not every person deserve a child”
@@ND-OPS Sure but I think mine makes sense as well
@@lialuvzi Okay👍
Seems like he didnt know anything about his own son or even took the time to spend time with him. He gave him money and bought expensive things for him and probably thought that was what being a good father is about.
Hey Daniel
Love u daniel
Hey Daniel
damn daniel. didnt know you were here
Hey Elliot Rodger lite version
So they thought he might take his own life but they didn't do anything about it. Wow there's some good parenting. It also seems strange as to how the father talks about his son as if they are unrelated - like it's not his son.
@Cassie K being his father he's associated by default. I would hope any decent person would testify against a family member who committed a serious crime. Lapping up media attention in this situation as this man does is bizarre and increases his association with his son.
Yeah,they literally paid a celebrity teraphist that Elliot quited the first chance he got but I guess this mean nothing,lol
Buddy, the video is 2 minutes long. "Didn't so anything about it" wtf lol grasshopper hops on conclusions.
I mean if your child turned out as a murderer you wouldnt want to associate yourself with them either
They did try to do something they got him therapy.
And can you actually blame the father for wanting to dissociate from his son after what he did lol?
Mr. Rodger: "We didn't see this coming."
Barbara: "Did you know he was sick?"
Mr. Rodger: "No. We left him in his room alone from age 4 on, and told him to behave himself and play his video games like a good lad."
Barbara: "Did you hug him? Talk to him? Help him learn to believe in himself and form healthy social connections?"
Mr. Rodger: "Who has time for that? I was busy chasing skirts and saving money for my BMW and Elliot's BMW. I didn't think the lad needed a hug or a chat, no."
+Hitch Slap If you watch the full video she asks did you love Elliot and he says "I ADORED Elliot. The years up until Elliot was FIVE were so amazing!" Well yeah but when he as six you took up with that other women instead of his mother and moved out when he was 7.....
And hired his first shrink when he was 8.
*****
Just play along fortheloveofgod!
Hitch Slap Rofl!!! So true.
r u incel?
Shame for his father...
If you read Elliots 147 page life diary you really can come to an understanding about how terrible of a father this guy is
If you read that you should be on a watch list lol
@@RonnyDoplo I read it. Its a rough read not gonna lie, and I feel anyone can identify to some things. Those who are so quick to condone this kid definitely havent read the whole thing. I have. And man, this kid had it seriously rough.
@@necroplastful That's a lie.I've had it worse then elliot rodger and im not gonna fucking murder people. I read the manifesto,litterally the only worse things that happened to him was that he was bullied. that's litterally it.
@@necroplastfulYeah, but the premise of his entire manifesto is taking revenge on the women who never gave him sex, and the men who lived a better life than him. Plenty of people have family issues like Elliot did and go on to be well-adjusted everyday people. I can sympathize with some things, but it was mostly about sex and jealousy
@@RonnyDoplooh I'm so scared
im left with a bad taste in my mouth after seeing this guy all but deny HIS son repeatedly. He seems insincere and trying to save himself from any responsibility he should shoulder. He is trying to appear more sympathetic to the victims but not his own son who was also a victim too. Yes the son committed horrible murders of inncents, but im commenting on this so called father, its clear he didnt know his son at all.
+honeycat535 he never love him let alone consider him his son.............sad story then rodger took his own life crazy ....but real very true........rip elliot. he was lost soul. it takes guts to take a bullet to ur head one thing to say another thing to do
his fathers absence ruined elliots life as well as the victims
Its also about the enviroment. By not having a father figure in his life he cant mimic the father he looks up to. With no father he tries to be like his mom at a young age. You know in sigmund freuds psycho dynamic theory when a child is around 3 or something im not sure, its been a while. The child feels sexual attraction towards the opposite sex of its parent. You probably heard young female kids wanting to marry their father and males, their mothers. Elliot couldnt evolve
He was also contantly bullied and he always felt like he had to live up to the societys expectations like having a girlfriend or any sexual interaction. Anyways conclusion: true not everyone turns into a mass murdering maniac but it really depends on the people that can influence his life and mostly the enviroment
Ice Flakes
Environment only does so much, when you have 1000 dollar apartments multiple, higher end cars cars and gold necklaces as gifts and could afford to eat expensive sushi, get first class tickets and stay in top line hotels, I'd say the worth thing his father did was give him too much, pr maybe it was the mother.
Even the guns he used totaled more than 1.5k.
Never even mentioned that in the manifesto. There's this constant thing where he is saying I am persecuted, I am invisible. But he never details specifics or indeed any interactions except for one where he instigated violence first and got fucked right up by some total brah who did the world a favor and broke his ankle. Name an instance of bullying he went though. He wasn't a Columbine type he was a narcissistic aspie with a persecution complex.
NO form of parenting can fix the kind of guy who gets genuinely jealous of a little brother over shit that he MIGHT be able to do later on and plans to kill them. Honestly it's a miracle he didn't get outright bashed by some civilly minded type but then that's probably because for all the shit he had to type in that manifesto he by ALL accounts, meaning every roommate, every acquaintance, ever ex friend said he was all mono syllabic in answers and never said shit till he was drunk enough to slur.
The autistic fuck should have started his spree with himself and spared more important people the indignity of being associated with him.
Dad, girls wont talk to me. Heres a BMW,gucci glasses and prada shirt.
I'm surprised that that didn't get him any attention from the ladies though
@@Hubris1998 you need at least an ounce of personality
@@sz42781 personality? oh, he had a lot of that. not in a good way, though
It was only a BMW 328i lol. Trash
@@Jasonsmith-sr1ke 20 year old girls dont know the difference, men care about the model number.Its just a car to break the ice
Most normal parents of children who commit a horrible act don't condone their actions but still love their child regardless. This guy could not care less about his kid, paints him as a villain, trys to distance himself from his son by basically calling him a monster. You can tell he never loved his son, he was just a annoying distraction in his life. No wonder Elliott had the mindset he had, he never stood a chance with parents like this.
Actually Adam Lanza’s dad said the same thing after he committed the shooting.
*COULDN'T*
not "could"
How could ANY parent love a child like that??
@@Falconer22I think it very likely that Elliot Rodger wasn’t born a misogynist. He clearly seems to have grown as such because of environmental causes, his parents being among them. Of course, it can be hard to know who he might have become instead because he never got the love and sex he desired, but I doubt that he would have ran amok if he had gotten what he wanted.
This interview pretty much shows why Elliott was so messed up. Almost feel sorry for him having him as a dad
EVERYONE SAYING IT’S THE DAD’S FAULT… think about what you’re saying. Anyone capable of doing what Elliot did was never safe. I know loads of people with AWFUL parents. My best friend had a 2 litre glass jug smashed over his head by his heroin addict mother and I saw it with my very own eyes. He didn’t go on a murder rampage later in life. Yes this is just one example, but fucking hell think about what you’re saying… Elliot Dodgey was never stable and never safe. Hell his dad probs fuckin tried with his son but he was probs too much of a freak. Ya’ll need to think about what you’re saying.
Are u serious? Why cast so much judgement for no reason
the guy is rich af, lives in LA and gives u anything u want, how can u not want that.
@@hatesitrick I did think about it tho. Even empathize w/ the dude. Some ppl see sh and hate it and make a promise to themselves never become it. Some ppl see hate, & let it define it for them. Your surroundings do influence if its intentional/unintentional good/bad. It still molds u. I mean, Elliot is a coward. But his dad def didn't help either.
Caallleedd iiiittt
@@hatesitrick This is a different story but I'm feel for your friend what kind of mother
I am sorry, I do not wish to pass judgment on anyone, as I know that many parents do their absolute best and their child still slips into the darkness somehow - but this man is just terrible to me. To say that you wish your son was never born? My god. Say that you wish he had never done the wrongs he committed, but to say that? In his manifesto Elliot wrote how his parents told him that he was an "accident". So I guess that it's not surprising that his father feels this way - he was pretty cruel to his son from the start in my honest opinion.
And to arrogantly claim that you "never saw this coming"???? His son was in therapy for YEARS, and his mother called the police on him about a week prior to the murders, not to mention that the cops were called when he broke his ankle at that party and his parents were notified about the incident. It's true that he may have kept his "darker side" hidden, but signs were there and to claim you had NO idea? And then to spend the rest of the interview just feeling sorry for yourself? And everyone calls Elliot a narcissist? He was supposed to be mentally ill, what is his father's excuse?
that sums it up.. perfectly... telling him HE was an accident... Putting ELLIOT in therapy at 7 years old? Making Elliot feel inadequate on his own in the world is not a good way to start school or college.
You took the words right out of my mouth. Sad story...
Jimbo j
Exactly. His father really should NOT have done a public interview. He claims that he is doing it for the noble reason of trying to prevent another incident such as this, but does he really believe that feeling sorry for himself and telling Barbara Walters how "tough" he is having it on national television is going to stop future crime? It seems that he is rather narcissistic himself.
And after telling Elliot that he was an accident at a young age, is it really such a stretch to now say that you wish he had never been born? I wouldn't think so, and yet he acts like Ms. Walters question is SO difficult for him. I agree with the other poster here who said that he seems kind of phony.
I hate to judge the way that I am here, as I know it isn't easy dealing with mental/emotional illness, but I do believe that his parents could have given the situation more attention and not just thrown "toys" at Elliot for 22 years.
Serenadesong I am actually not pleased with the interview. She didn't ask any questions about many things that many of us are trying to figure out. Not once did his father say oh I miss him, or cry, or anything. This interview wasn't as good as I expected it to be.
I know this is a shallow comment but ironically the father COULD easily attract a girl. Maybe this was jealousy that he did not look like his father.
The only problem Elliot ever suffered was anxiety which led to social awkwardness. And in this day in age, if you're socially awkward, you're kinda fucked. Society and a mix of media employs too much the idea of FRIENDS and socializing as a necessity in human life.
Because it is.
Enmanuele Pericles nah
i agree
But you don't become a mass murderer by just being socially awkward.
He had problems and saw a therapist for most of his life.
And really, after seeing some of his videos, I'd say they show some signs of him being a psychopath. He thinks he's great and magnificent, doesn't seem to know that murder is something bad (which means he wasn't conscious of guilt), which also shows his lack of empathy, and so on.
GIRLonMW2 yea. im afraid that we have to leave the capitalist society which leads to troubled people all over globe. - We all do affect each-other somehow... Maybe there is some other ideology that tries to interact the system into the human civilization instead of vice-versa
He talks about him as if he's not even human. Neglect can drive a good souled person to insanity and complete contempt of people because of the pain they've been inflicted. Parents like these are what causes evil in some young adults.
If you had a son that committed murders then you’d disown them as well.
True
@@mrbluesky4838To the contrary.....most parents will do anything to condone continuing a relationship with their children who committ horrific acts....
Both Elliott and his dad sound like dragon ball villains 😂
You should see the original videos Elliot uploaded, he deadass sounds like a supervillain wanting revenge on society lmaoo
Frieza and King Cold
@@amarson2322 fr lol
ikr lmao
@elliot rodger
*AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THAT ELLIOT'S FATHER IS AS SELF OBSESSED AS HIS PSYCHOPATHIC SON?*
yes
***** His dad was probably a frustrated assistant director with a hair trigger temper.
***** sociopathy and narcissism can be inherited genetically. i would be his dad has the same traits
***** k
***** god
This man is more concerned about the people that have been killed by Elliot than his own son. Listen to what he's really saying. He had no proper attachment to his son.
HIS SON WAS A SERIAL KILLER. WHAT SHOULD WE DO TO SERIAL KILLERS, PRAISE THEM?
@@daviddj888 Just a "killer", not a "serial killer".
@@platinumvoid1648Oh shit,yeah
緑グレッグ you piece of shit praise this sick killer. im glad his under the ground where he belongs
@@bigbans437 Shut up if you know nothing what he went through he needed help so many people around the world like him show some compassion moron.
This tragedy was so preventable it’s unbelievable
They had a therapist for him since like age 8. Once he turned 18 he started refusing treatment. Until he sent out the manifesto you wouldn’t legally be able to push him for care
@@phunkyphresh3799 If therapists were useful they would have helped, they had 10 years to work with him and ended up with a murderer.
@@CvnDqnrU i have yet to see a therapist that actually helps
@@dakotarae159 I have, so let's not spread misinformation
@@phunkyphresh3799 Because he needed love. And then ethics and principles. But love, not belongings.
Weak fathers are always a strong source. This dude gives off extreme beta signals
The dad is a creep.
Opal- Zen better than his son
and he is a FAT NARCISSIST!!!
Like father, like son.
Loneliness can really fuck people up.
Working hard none stop like headless chicken can really do you in too from an early age
I have this theory that "bad kids" are really showing you what one or both of their parents are like behind closed doors. Elliot was apparently capable of masking his true nature. Maybe Daddy is too......his sincerity felt a bit phony to me,
Yeah, Dad here seemed intense, to say the least! But its a sad and horrible thing for ALL of them!
Guns and cars?! How did he get ahold of those?!
***** Socially deluded and mentally disorderd as well. I still don't know all the details that would make me informed about this. Had he been dealing with the mental health establishment? How old was he? He could just walk in and buy guns?! Or did he get them from someone else? Mass shootings are not unknown in Canada either, sadly. Did you hear about the three RCMP officers that were killed July after his? That happened out a three hour drive way from where I live! Shocking! And not the first time that has happened here, either!
Your theory sounds like garbage. He wrote nothing like that in his manifesto.
Yea the dad kinda sounded like he was talking about a stranger instead with no remorse about his son. Yea its horrible that your son became a monster but usually the parents are still kinda sad he died vs this one. He probably either wasnt there a lot directing movies or he was kind of a douche as a dad
i completely agree.
Your son suffred from you neglecting him
"We knew he was suicidal but never knew he would do something like this!"
Elliot: Hey dad, im feeling suicidal
Dad: eh go eat some ice cream or something kid im busy having a political argument in the comment section of a Kanye West post on facebook. Leave me alone kid
*shoots up a school a week later*
Dad: OH MY GOD! The horror! Where is this coming from. I never knew he had this in him!
Yes
If you can't give your kids the time and company they deserve, don't fucking procreate.
He still bought him a BMW though.
@@thumpertorque_ That BMW is get after Elliott threatened his father
Legendary comment. Shows how emotionally neglectful some parents are
There was a fucking condom ad on before this how ironic
You fucking legend 😂😂😂
XDDD
+Altaïr ibn la ahad Rawrrrrrrr xD
One condom could have ended this lol
Bruh😭😭😭
look at this guy though....not the greatest role model....not defending elliot whatsoever, but this guy doesnt give 2 shits if his son is dead or alive
***** Nailed it. Look at the way he speaks, he never gave a fuck about that kid. If you read what he wrote before he did all this, his father constantly rejected him throughout his life instead of reaching out to him when his son would try and go to him for anything.
***** Defend a murderer?! Doesn't matter if it was his son! There is a line that he crossed to be so hateful and disgusting. If I was the father, I'd speak the same way he is! You raise that kid and then the kid goes off to do that over something so pathetic. He had no sympathy when he made the videos or did the killing so why should his father have sympathy for him?
ZEF Going AFK Because he's his father and that boy used to be a little baby child that he raised since birth.
But a typical parent has fond memories of their child's younger years, regardless of what they do in the present, this guy is just cold
FabolousNupe Yes, get mad and insult me. You will never understand the viewpoint of a true parent who's offspring has lost it.
NOW HERE IS A NARCISSIST PAR EXCALLANCE. Poor kid, he had no chance in hell with parents like that.
Narcissism is always caused by the fact that the child feels unloved by his/her parents
Someone some people are just envious of others or feel entitled
I'm very narcissistic and my parents love me, so your theory is wrong.
A E S T H E T I C Narcissists usually won’t admit that there’s „something wrong with them“ mentally, they are not self-aware, especially when it comes to admitting their own flaws/mistakes.
Someone overindulgence as well. No nurturing, no validation
No it doesn't like 60% of all teens today are pieces of shit , most parents love there kids , the kids just turn in assholes
Harambe could have prevented Elliot Rodger but now Harambe is dead too
so many supreme gentlemen are dying, hardly any left
Some still remain, though.
Stand Up For Your Rights lol triggered
*****
okay okay look im sorry i ran outta beer xD
They where both alive at the same time lmao
From the outset, he seems genuinely remorseful but dig deeper and he's a typical selfish narcissistic man. All he cares about is how HE feels. The torment HE feels.
what is he meant to feel?
yeah he's giving his side of the story. can't believe people like you are this dumb
I can't believe how irresponsible this guy was. He marries an Asian woman and sires two half Asian kids who are brought up in the West. The girl had no problem, but Elliott.... well, a half Asian guy trying to get a gf in western society, even an Asian girl, is like panning for gold in a junk yard ditch. He abandons his wife and kids when Elliott is but seven yo for his new Caucasian blonde squeeze, give him no parental guidance or any kind of help through the toughest years of his life, and then essentially disowns him in favour of his pure-bred white son. I don't think Elliott's mental problems were innate; I reckon they just built up as reactions to this guy's God-awful, blue pulled dead beat parenting techniques!
kept trying to pawn his son off to lazy psychologists who just wanted money and let his new wife bully his high functioning autistic son. Never really gave him guidance and focused too much on his career
Moroccan is not Caucasian
@@Silvia.AraujoMENA are caucasoid, but not European (that’s where white nationalists cut it off at) but yeah Elliot’s brother had better recombination cause you just can’t work with Asian genes at all. Asian genetics can’t make chad looking men.
"Panning for gold in a junk yard ditch"? Sad how that's the way you interpret that kind of scenario. I can understand why, since prejudice would definitely be a factor, but you wrote that like a half-Asian person getting a girlfriend in Western society is impossible, when it most definitely isn't.
@@LuznoLindo it definitely is impossible speaking as a half Asian male myself. Unless you’re super white passing with masculine features like a Keanu Reeves clone or Brandon Lee, Bruce lee’s son.
Dad knew, it can be seen in his face.
Compelling argument
+Oscar Littlecar yep....that guilt on his face because he knew Elliot was on the verge.... I bet he thought things would work themselves out in time and he would eventually have a girlfriend someday down the road as he continued maturing into adulthood...
A warm hug, a really meaningful friend or mentor who wouldve been there for him wouldve changed his outlook on life. He would still be depressed but atleast not fucked up to kill other and himself. So guys cherish each other. Let your friends know you care for them. Maybe you will prevent another elliot rodger tragedy!!
1:19 “this boy” you mean “My Son”
G - when you die is your still your fathers son lmao
@@laraweinberg7635 his son only became a horrible person because he was raised by a horrible psycopath dad
@@laraweinberg7635 Listen moron, keep it shut if you have nothing valuable to say, eh?
The sad thing is that most monsters started out as innocent beings. I see the evil in the fathers eyes. In the way he refers to his own son as 'this boy' and I realize that I do understand why this boy ended up the way he did. Unloved, cast out - rejected. I am sorry for him.
When did he say it
1:20
His father is gross. I felt those things too
Lots of boys are living without a father, without being dangerous for the society.
Did his mother create a stable relationship with her former husband, to comfort a emotional demanding son?
@@DianaEmilia911”gross” 😂
THIS GUY FAILED HIS SON!
his son failed him...
Lucas You,the racism guy, killed elliot rodger, elliot rodger is a poor hapa, he is rejected by both whites and Asian. elliot rodger just hoped friendship and love.
His son was a loser incel, i pity his dad
Lol well i'd love to see you go back in time to the shooting and tell him that to his face. Easy to talk trash about a dead person but can you do it to someone with a loaded gun pointed at you? "HA HA HEY ELLIOT YOU'RE A PATHETIC VIRGIN INCE --" *BANG BANG BANG BANG*
+Joshua Richard As a CCW holder, I would have loved to be there that day. Nothing would make me happier then putting Elliot down like a lame horse.
He's fake, just trying to protect his own image. Clearly didn't know or help his son. Terrible what Elliot did but he was completely lost in society with no support, people like this need help, not condemnation
"When I wake up, I think about those boys"
"So what do you do when you wake up?"
10/10 interview
Think about how often the Elliot kid spent sitting alone in parking lots staring at sunsets and watching people.. then that seed of hatred and resentment grew and grew. His family shouldn't have let him isolate himself.
He cares about his toupee _more_ than he cares about his son. After the shootings, the first person he called was his attorney. He and his wife didn't even visit or check up on their son while he was at UCSB. They sent various people to check on him and report back to them.
When will parents be held responsible for the actions of their kids? At some point, you need to raise your kids. Not just shuffle them off and buy them _things_.
He shouldn't care about his son
they cant be responsible since their son, aged 22, was an adult at the time
1:59 - 2:05
Clearly there is nothing wrong with that according to his father
Nothing wrong with some *an hero*.
misterkyler his existence was suffering,he should have an hero'd himself way sooner. rodger was a clear case of shit genetics,he never even lifted
A few girls told me if he wasn't a batshit crazy killer, he would actually be kinda cute. I think it comes down to his father simply gave zero fucks about his son, therefore he had no strong father figure and this is what caused him to have such a submissive and feminine personality cause it seems like he would always cry to mommy for help.
Was he the image of masculinity? fuck no but I bet if he wasn't a spoiled shit and his parents knew what the fuck they were doing, maybe he would have been one of the normal ones. Still no excuse for killing people though.
highview seeker he didn’t have bad genetics just a HORRIBLE personality
It’s like. Oh yeah he’s a bit suicidal but I mean I never thought he would do it. Lol. That shows what’s wrong in society. He’s brain was completely sick, we are lucky no more cases like this are happening, although there are a lot more than we know. America and their gun laws open the gates to hell.
If this cheap bloke would took his son to a brothel at a young age + discussing with him about girls and relationships, nothing of this would happened. Instead he just spoiled the kid and probably he barely talked to him.
so true
doing those things would not prevent a personality disorder or a mental illness, don't act like you know how to prevent a psychological disorder. Because many factors lie into it.
Taken him to a brothel - really??? Now, THERE'S the way to cure mental instability (said no one ever), 'cause we all know that sticking your shlong into a hole will cure anything - however, I do agree that this kid was probably "bought" and basically ignored by the father and that makes for a fairly lonely existence. I have a feeling this poor kid knew about possessions, but not about love or familial stability and that makes for a fairly screwed up personality. For some reason watching this kid's mannerisms as well as his speech patterns, that along with a healthy dose of narcissism (as a defense mechanism), he may have some some closeted homosexual issues, and was really conflicted about it. Not a diagnosis of any kind, but just my humble opinion.
You don't know anything. Making severe judgements based off of barely thought out assumptions is stupid.
Elliot supposedly had a really tight relationship with his father
I've read his manifesto, it really does seem like this guy was completely neglectful of his son. Shared equal custody with his ex wife over their kids but was almost always away at work. Even here, he seems more concerned about his reputation than the fact that his own son went astray and died..
Legit not surprised Elliot turned out this way. His dad's exactly how he'd have been if he were able to date
And the way you believe everything a mass murder did
His dad only did the interview for publicity, just for his own career.
So
So the father goes on ABC a month later, for what? All i heard was "I , I, I, me, me, me" .. he was clearly trying to save face and salvage his career at the same time, which is likely all he ever cared about. He even disassociates from his son by saying "this boy" to try to skirt culpability. What a slimy lizard scum. A parent is the number one influence, or absense thereof, in a child's life. Looking at this guy and the fact he even went on ABC at all tells you all you need to know about him.
He talks about his son like a stranger
I'm going to be brutally honest here, I think Elliot's strong Asian appearance and the fact he didn't look like his father were factors in his lack of bonding.
rare Asian DNA W 😂😂
Barbara Walters: So, your son died. What is your thoughts?
Father: I ate a cheeseburger, I digest it, and I go poo.
Barbara Walters: Interesting
😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
Elliot was sick in the head. Writing him off as just a monster solves nothing. There is a worsening mental health crisis that needs immediate attention.
Are you suggesting that Elliot was born evil?@bangkokjack4698
From Elliot Rodger's diary:
"Father suffered through a deep financial setback because of his movie. Could things get any worse for me? As a result, my father abruptly cut off all of the child-support payments he was paying my mother. "
SEVEN PARAGRAPHS LATER...
"To my chagrin, my father decided to take up motorcycle riding. He pulled up to the house one day in a roaring Harley Davidson, and I was completely baffled. "
He’s partially to blame. He spoiled his son and seems just as narcissistic as his son
based son
They knew he was sick. They took him to counsellors, they had him on medication, he told them how lonely he was.
And yeah, they moved him to different schools to get away from the bullies, yes they got him a car, yes they took him to hospital when he broke his ankle.
But the signs were there, they knew.
the dad looks like Bob Duncan from good luck Charlie IMO
I just noticed he does
+Donna Taruc how's that cool? that's weird
Sure they are Dona
Danny Guillen LETS GOOOOOOOO
Danny Guillen whatever
Proof that mental health is as important as physical health
Like we even need a proof of it
I don't blame Elliot, I blame his narcissistic father siding with Sumiya, the invader of the family who isolated Elliot from them, taunting him with the idea that his brother jazz would get girls while Elliot would be denied, and his divorced mother who supported Elliot only as a way to spite his father. He was the creation of these parents who truly cared nothing for him.
How do you know?
Elliot was the only victim in this case. RIP ER.
No he wasn’t.
He stabbed his roommates 92 times and shot people, his loneliness doesn't excuse the loss he caused to people.
True, I feel bad for him. Coming on 19 with no girlfriend
His Dad sounds more like someone else (journalist, reporter) who is explaining why Elliot did this, than as a father talking about his son. Bizarre!!
I can't help but feeling pity for elliot. He seemed like a guy with a lot of wasted potential. And i can't help thinking that he didn't get enough "real" attention by his parents. I mean 22 and virgin? Who the fuck cares? Why did it even matter to him? It might sound old but it seems like nobody ever told that guy to stay true to himself, to be himself and that sooner or later people would like him that way. I mean just watch his videos, in every video that guy is "acting" like he is some evil mastermind instead of beeing himself.
I also blame society that pledges tolerance for every minority day and night but when it comes to actually talk to a person which seems a bit strange at first everybody is hiding. There is no tolerance for "wierdos". If im out with my friends at friday/saturday night and we see someone who seems lonely we generally inviting him for a drink. It's not that hard. Of course some people turn out to be assholes but others are really plain and they are happy that they finally found some friends and people to talk with. Maybe something simple like that could have prevent that horrible tragedy.
"Every night i go to sleep, I wake up"
same
Neglect is a horrible form of abuse... This guy is so worried he will be villainized for being Elliot's father that he speaks as if he has so much concern for the victims that he doesn't acknowledge him as his son whatsoever. He just thought he was suicidal? We all see through this facade
Based Father
Idk how Elliot could be such a manchild when his father surprisingly holds him some responsability
If you look at his father's eyes they'll tell you all you need to know
Arrogant self entitled JBW father and a self-hating Asian mother ... it's couplings like this that should make WMAF illegal.
What
WMAF MAKE THE UGLIEST HAPAS, its sad its the most common interracial relationship
This grandiose sense of self, seeing himself as nothing but a victim, this fixation on being intimate with a girl, the incapability of self-reflection and learning from his mistakes, this wish to get even with the world and this feeling of power, knowing what’s coming to these girls but they don’t, the emotional numbness he’s displaying…this guy is way different than a normal person. He looks like someone with a serious mental illness.
Some people commented that this is a classic example of narcissistic personality disorder but I think he’s not. This looks more like pathological psychopathy (which in itself is classified by strong narcissistic traits).
A usual narcissist would rant or rage when feeling like he has been mistreated but this guy is just straight up cold. No emotion, no conscience which is part of psychopathy. In other videos you can see him talk about how he has the perfect car and perfect life but women still reject him. This guy doesn’t understand what it takes to form an emotional connection to someone because he is literally incapable of doing so. Psychopaths are born without the ability of having a conscience, feeling guilt, shame or fear. It’s because they’re literally missing brain tissue in the parts of their brains where these emotions are produced. Since psychopaths are incapable of empathy, they can only learn to understand human behavior and mimic emotions but can never feel them (so they wouldn’t flirt with a widow on their husband’s funeral because they’ve learned it’s inappropriate) and many get quite good at it, you’d never know. A high functioning psychopath would get girls and be well liked but would never feel anything for them, except a sense of power over them. The father…I don’t even know where to start. No display of real emotions either, bunch of phrases, rationalizing the whole thing and no accountability….Seems like it goes down the family tree…
this sounds soooooo scripted by him
he is a director, man... nothing strange about it
Lee Jun his kid wouldn't have been so batshit insane if he actually took the time to take care of him. Hollywood executives are the biggest sociopaths on planet Earth
The whole thing is a bunch of scripted Jewish bullshit. Nobody died and nobody got hurt.
I could be flat out wrong about this, and God forgive me if I am and criticize a man whose son just died, but this dude looks pretty crazy himself. He just gives me a bad vibe. And if he's an abusive narcissist himself, I can see why Elliott turned out as he did.
He comes off to me like he is doing a performance. It seemed sociopathic in nature.....trying to display/act what he thought he should act like in the interview, but it felt forced and fake.
Everything about this guy screams "narcissism".
@@Mysikrysa Yes, I agree.
Never once talks about how he loved his son , talks about his own son like a complete stranger .. no wonder he turned out the way he did !
This dude seems to be one of the reasons his son turned out like that.
Yea I think his parents played a big role in him becoming a narcissist. A person like that doesn't have a good childhood.
My father wasn't the best, he was poor, tough on me but he made me a man. I didn't lose my virginity til 21, it was up to me to get up off my arse and do what's right, lose weight,get a job, socialise and I was an introvert, I'd go to the Library and only had 1 mate at school. Then I met another kid, he was spoilt to the core, had everything handed to him on a silver platter, 2.5k worth of clothes every 6-12 months, 10 acre farm with nice house, a motorbike, his mother would pay for his drugs so that he won't smash up the house, so I think to myself, tough times create strong men, weak times create weak men who blame others, become too spoilt that they become dangerous to other, elliot had everything thrown at him, gave him no time to progress into a man and learn how the real world worked
He lived in a world that he didn't understand so he made his own mind how the world worked but it depends on the person 🤷 some people can get all the love in the world and become a serial killer, been studying elliot Roger cos I was interested in his documentary and incel documentary and elliot Roger and he is irredeemable, he is vile, his mind twisted and cemented in his toxic incel ways. Elliot couldn't be saved
@@tremainebligh8984 Some people are just pure psychopaths, but as I said, a person like Eliot Rodger clearly went through a lot of trauma. You can't convince me that his parents had nothing to do with him being one.
Dude he would make a sickkkk joker.
Too busy trying to fill his pockets with money to pay attention to his son
His son was _EVIL,_ not sick. Stop excusing him.
@Jimmy Kid, that word doesn't mean what you think it does. He was literally an incel and a loser. 🤷🏿♂️
@KR Gilmore. I have, and I've also heard all his videos.
My [informed] opinion was based upon all of that, notwithstanding what he actually did.
But thank you for yours though. 👍🏾
His son was sick, and committed evil actions. No one’s excusing anything you half wit.
@@Henry-yf2np There was nothing sick about him, troglodyte clown. Go tuck yourself in.
I've been on his Dad's facebook, his son is no longer part of his 'friends list'. I can see why he would want to disassociate himself from Elliot but still... ouch.
Yeah, his dad was a prick I am sure but what about Elliot's mother? All we hear about in the media is what a bad Daddy Peter Rodger is, how he turned Elliot out that way, yes I agree that he doesn't deserve father of the year but surely E.R's mother is partially to blame, right? I'm starting to see that we live in a cushion-box society where women are always innocent of any wrongdoing and men are inherently guilty of all evil that occurs, at least in the media's eye. Gr8 job progressives.
RanchWagon Forde He had 2 mothers. He hated his step-mom with a passion but he loved his birth mom who helped him as much as she could. Also he had a close relationship with his grandma.
Not to mention that his step- mother is a gold digging bitch from Morocco. I sincerely feel bad for his little brother, his birth mom and the grandma.
Is he still in his top 8 on MySpace?
A child's behavior doesn't just come out of no where.
Yea it does have you even see assholes today ? Most of Their parents are normal but pricks still do whatever
Elliot was a grown ass man lol stop defending him wierdo
Ezm nobody’s defending him. I guess your stupidity came from somewhere also...
@@paulinadeluca9117 lol looking thru your comment history i can see you have an extra chromosome "A ChIlDs BeHaViOr DoeSnT cOme OuT oF noWhere" hey dummy you know lot's of people had this issue and never killed anyone?
Ezm the only person liking your comments is yourself 😂😂😂😂 come on, say it with me... 👉🏻 PATHETIC 👈🏻
Supreme gentleman
haterrep513 lol
This man is evil Frodo. Elliot character was shaped by him
All these people saying he doesn’t care about his son anymore but his last memory of his son is him just maniacally killing people
Yeah but a real parent loves their child no matter what. The parents of a different mass shooter had another reaction compared to elliots father. They said "we miss him so much after so many years"
Father seems to be putting on a facade to me.
Eliot Rodger and his dad look nothing alike XD
not at all, his father is gorgeous. his son looks like typical school bully
Ive never seen such a cancerous string of comments.
eliots dad is ugly as hell, looks like Kane from wwe without the mask
James David
I almost thought you were trolling, but your profile says otherwise.
I'm so, so sorry for you.
Lee Jun Not at all, idiot.
If you can't parent a child, don't have kids, simple.
I promise that you don’t have the skills to guarantee against this situation. Some people might, but not someone who approaches this matter with the bravado you have. This is the type of confidence that only comes from rank ignorance.
If you're not ok with someone becoming homicidal, why would you ever be okay with them feeling suicidal?