The thing I love about the levels is that they're still linear in nature,but much more fun,challenging,immersive and less automated They make you feel like you're always part of the scene,and it's a damn shame this isn't how the actual game plays
@@Shadex_Joestar They are definitely a big improvement. I would do a lot of Forces replays if the levels were this good. I only replayed Forces this year just to remember how Sonic Team screwed up before getting Frontiers.
linear levels arent always bad, unleashed had linear levels in most cases but they were filled with short reaction time objstacles to make the player concentrate, and it didnt have a lot of platforming either(except for the werehog stages) they added more platforming to the boost gameplay in generations and especially colors
Tails: Sonic… we can all help ourselves when we need to fight alone. And fighting Chaos 0 is a complete piece of cake! Amy Rose: As the Resistance, I say we go out there and make ourselves useful!
Even ExoParadigmGamer, while he likes Sonic Forces, would give this game a Replace score had Forces actually had a remake that would fix everything wrong with it (especially the flanderization of the characters).
Wow, INCREDIBLE work from the modders! Super excited to play through Forces again when it's eventually completed. It's really sad that time and time again fans have to create something to take games with obvious potential to actually be fun.
Exactly. This is just Sega sitting in their offices with their thumbs up their asses too scared to see another failure after Rise of Lyric almost made them go bankrupt
@@havenisthebest99 Rise of Lyric is a different beast, there's several videos online that explained what happened with this game. Forces was not in the same situation. Sonic Team spent too much time working on their new engine and all the talents behind Unleashed and Generations left the company.
4:04 Man... When Aqua Road's music was reveal by SEGA months before the release of the game, I was expecting something like this. A 3D and 2D section with that music. Finally, that dream come true. 🙏
God. This mod did Aqua Road justice. It's one of my favorite stages from Forces because of the song alone. I personally love the Forces soundtrack. Makes me feel nostalgic from the days I played it in high school.
I've always thought people trying to "improve" Forces was like trying to lift a lazy horse off the ground with one hand, but this is actually darn good! That Shadow section at Sunset Heights is impressive!
This is an absolute testament to the sheer dedication of the Sonic community. Brandon Jones and anyone else working on this should be fucking proud This is what Sonic Forces should have been
We won't need a re-imagining of this game anymore once the new one releases next month, but this is still a great mod. Shows the game's levels could've been better it had more level designers that were experienced with Sonic games.
I'm the all rounder type with a preference for most games from 2003 and beyond, and even I can't see where Frontiers has to offer than a possibly more serious story and neutered gameplay for wide open maps.
It's not a matter of number, but of talent. 2 of the 3 level designers for Forces were newbies that NEVER worked on Sonic. And visibly they were just there to get the money and do the bare minimum.
@@Darkslayer1534 Especially considering how little time they actually got to actually developpe the game. That's of course not an excuse as Unleashed was done pretty quickly too, but being newbies + on a tight schedule? That's a recipe for disasters.
With the reimagined Sunset Heights, I don’t know how fun it’d actually be but that sense of scale and openness in the environment is really what this game needed, among other things obviously. But it looks super good
Sunset Heights 1. The smol cutscene with Sonic and (IMPOSTER) Shadow 2. the multiple Egg Bomber chase sections 3. the camera angles focusing on the Death Egg Robots showing their destruction 4. you can hear some civillians shouting for help or announcing evacuation protocols Most of the level seems automated (a good 60% I can estimate) but a large part of the level shows how much Eggman's invasion has affected normal civilians.
Like most of time, modders do what SEGA didn't. For real, the stages looks like they always should have been with main path and from it, you have take different pathways. Honestly, it worth the detour for a casual Forces playhrought with this mod. And if Cyberspace levels turn out like this, then it we will have something pretty nice to enjoy. It doesn"t feel that automatic and it's great that way, being a part of scenery. Combine with Harder Bosses mod and Forces is now an improved title to play. What modders did like here is extracting as much as possible all the potential they can get. While going throughout Sunset Heights, you can hear citizens screaming all around. Nice little details we now have here. #SonicForcesRevampedEdition
This mod feels like forces improved, but still has the same problem as forces. Guardian rock still has the boring double boost section, but at least is a bit more cinematic with the chase. Rail grinding and boost rings and springs and boostpads make the game incredibly automated. The chemical plant pipe sections should have been like generations where u can run on them without it being automated.
@@royolaniye6643 Right? Like one the comparison is ignorant as ever (and for some reason every game that people don't like gets it), and for another (with no disrespect to modders or praise to Forces) what was done wouldn't be possible without the game itself
@@ThibautMahringer actually the controls in the mod were adjusted to have better physics, plus theres a patch to enable 360 degree movement instead of the 8 direction it does use
Makes me wanna install this game and download this. This looks amazing. Saw someone comment talking about the npc and environmental sounds. Defo agree. Overall the custom level design just makes you think this is what sega could have done. This game would have been so much better with this game play
It's been a long time since I've player Sonic Forces so I don't remember exactly what was changed, but I can see there's a a mini boss rushing sonic on the doubole booster scene, which I remember it wasn't there.
The expanded portion of Sunset Heights blows my mind, it's so disappointing how in the original level it just ends all of a sudden and he's literally standing off to the side
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This is such a cool mod, honestly if this was what sonic forces was actually like I'd probably think it was an ok game. Its just sad tho when you compare the real versions of these levels against the mod versions, the real versions just have nothing to them, they barely even count as levels
I don't remember some of the lines said in levels, are they adding new lines? and if so are they getting the original VAs to voice custom lines, or just very good impressionists?
I'm positive if this was the product we received, it would still be derided given the nature of Sonic fans (if not just as disliked), but no way you can dock the work done here.
Y'know iw as wondering when the changes would begin but then i realized, this is it, EVERYTHING WAS CHANGED. and they're such good levels man Shame the original game isn't like this
@@vasse5769 to be fair, the cyberspace levels are side content. They probably spent the five years working on the open world and gameplay mechanics/engine.
@@vasse5769 the difference is that Forces and Colors are exclusively boost-style stages. They should be longer because otherwise a casual playthrough takes like 3 hours for each of them. Frontiers has a ton of content in it already, so shorter cyberspace levels aren't the end of the world. Would I like longer levels? Of course, but its not intended to be the main substance of the game so its not the biggest deal in the world.
Dang, you missed out on 1 special stage! If you collect enough Red Rings, you'll be able to play the second special stage of this mod, it's also one that I really like
god i love the Shadow's entrance scene, theyre doing what sega didnt again. Im really sure if modders would have budget, make better games than sonicteam.
Imagine if the mod for Sunset Heights would switch you to Shadow after that quick in game cutscene & you need to catch up to Sonic at the end goal & you see Sonic about to fight the fake Shadow. Idk if any of that made sense... but that'd be cool imo.
The base game rushed, so I can see why it wasn’t as good as it could’ve been, which is why this mod is great, it takes the levels, and expands upon them
The thing I love about the levels is that they're still linear in nature,but much more fun,challenging,immersive and less automated
They make you feel like you're always part of the scene,and it's a damn shame this isn't how the actual game plays
Who said linear means bad ? Forces is bad, not linear levels themselves
Once they patch colors and if they think of patching other games they should do this update
@@ThibautMahringerI know linearity isn't bad persay,I was just describing the levels
@@Shadex_Joestar They are definitely a big improvement. I would do a lot of Forces replays if the levels were this good.
I only replayed Forces this year just to remember how Sonic Team screwed up before getting Frontiers.
linear levels arent always bad, unleashed had linear levels in most cases but they were filled with short reaction time objstacles to make the player concentrate, and it didnt have a lot of platforming either(except for the werehog stages) they added more platforming to the boost gameplay in generations and especially colors
8:56 That would've been so cool if that actually happened in the game!
I just wish it was possible for that to have shadow there instead of sonic if you play as shadow, but beggers can't be choosers.
@@stanzacosmi i mean technically i can just put 2 versions of the shadow animation there lol
That SA2 callback 🔥🔥
Knuckles: “They must have been doing experiments they don’t want people to know about.”
Sees Chao in cages.
“That heartless monster!”
Tails: Sonic… we can all help ourselves when we need to fight alone. And fighting Chaos 0 is a complete piece of cake!
Amy Rose: As the Resistance, I say we go out there and make ourselves useful!
Save the chaos from being chao abuse
Sonic: THIS MUST BE THE DOING OF PACAHAMIC AND HIS TRIBESMEN!!!!!!!! IT’S SONIC ADVENTURE 1 ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!! HEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!
@@kieranstark7213 sonic jr:and what about me father
Sonic Sr.: You’ll always be my partner in crime, just like Tails, Knuckles, Amy Rose, Team Dark, the Chaotix, Blaze and Silver.
This shows that Sonic forces deserve a huge remake
They should remake it
@Asp Burgers I think after Frontiers they can do the remake of some games
NO ! Leave this game alone to die where it is
@@PrinceRoseSKY you know, this game has a potential. So why don't remake and use this potential?
Even ExoParadigmGamer, while he likes Sonic Forces, would give this game a Replace score had Forces actually had a remake that would fix everything wrong with it (especially the flanderization of the characters).
Wow, INCREDIBLE work from the modders! Super excited to play through Forces again when it's eventually completed. It's really sad that time and time again fans have to create something to take games with obvious potential to actually be fun.
It's not really sad when fans do that it's actually impressive
You know what the sad part is?
There was *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL* stopping the game from being a mirror image of this mod
Exactly. This is just Sega sitting in their offices with their thumbs up their asses too scared to see another failure after Rise of Lyric almost made them go bankrupt
@@havenisthebest99 Rise of Lyric is a different beast, there's several videos online that explained what happened with this game.
Forces was not in the same situation. Sonic Team spent too much time working on their new engine and all the talents behind Unleashed and Generations left the company.
+ this sonic controls better than past boost games
@@dark_nightwing_xl2797ot really, Sonic's acceleration in this game is super weird
@@ALegendaryBlueHedgenot really compare this sonic with the past boost games
4:04
Man... When Aqua Road's music was reveal by SEGA months before the release of the game, I was expecting something like this. A 3D and 2D section with that music. Finally, that dream come true. 🙏
Sunset Heights was DEFINITELY my favourite. It improved the original by a lot
God. This mod did Aqua Road justice. It's one of my favorite stages from Forces because of the song alone. I personally love the Forces soundtrack. Makes me feel nostalgic from the days I played it in high school.
Fanbase: Want more remasters.
Sonic Team: " Ohh, guys let's remake Sonic 1, Sonic 2, Sonic 3 and CD for hundred times!!! "
Is been YEARS since I seen sonic forces reimagined
This is great stuff
Dude sunset heights gives me the chills. The combination of the roars, and the sounds of people fighting and possibly dying and crying for help. Yikes
I've always thought people trying to "improve" Forces was like trying to lift a lazy horse off the ground with one hand, but this is actually darn good! That Shadow section at Sunset Heights is impressive!
This is an absolute testament to the sheer dedication of the Sonic community. Brandon Jones and anyone else working on this should be fucking proud
This is what Sonic Forces should have been
We won't need a re-imagining of this game anymore once the new one releases next month, but this is still a great mod. Shows the game's levels could've been better it had more level designers that were experienced with Sonic games.
I'm the all rounder type with a preference for most games from 2003 and beyond, and even I can't see where Frontiers has to offer than a possibly more serious story and neutered gameplay for wide open maps.
this was made with 2 level designers so
It's not a matter of number, but of talent.
2 of the 3 level designers for Forces were newbies that NEVER worked on Sonic.
And visibly they were just there to get the money and do the bare minimum.
@@ThibautMahringer thats pretty insulting tbh. Im pretty sure they tried. They just didnt know how to make sonic levels
@@Darkslayer1534 Especially considering how little time they actually got to actually developpe the game. That's of course not an excuse as Unleashed was done pretty quickly too, but being newbies + on a tight schedule? That's a recipe for disasters.
With the reimagined Sunset Heights, I don’t know how fun it’d actually be but that sense of scale and openness in the environment is really what this game needed, among other things obviously. But it looks super good
Sunset Heights
1. The smol cutscene with Sonic and (IMPOSTER) Shadow
2. the multiple Egg Bomber chase sections
3. the camera angles focusing on the Death Egg Robots showing their destruction
4. you can hear some civillians shouting for help or announcing evacuation protocols
Most of the level seems automated (a good 60% I can estimate)
but a large part of the level shows how much Eggman's invasion has affected normal civilians.
Like most of time, modders do what SEGA didn't. For real, the stages looks like they always should have been with main path and from it, you have take different pathways. Honestly, it worth the detour for a casual Forces playhrought with this mod. And if Cyberspace levels turn out like this, then it we will have something pretty nice to enjoy. It doesn"t feel that automatic and it's great that way, being a part of scenery. Combine with Harder Bosses mod and Forces is now an improved title to play. What modders did like here is extracting as much as possible all the potential they can get. While going throughout Sunset Heights, you can hear citizens screaming all around. Nice little details we now have here.
#SonicForcesRevampedEdition
This mod feels like forces improved, but still has the same problem as forces. Guardian rock still has the boring double boost section, but at least is a bit more cinematic with the chase. Rail grinding and boost rings and springs and boostpads make the game incredibly automated. The chemical plant pipe sections should have been like generations where u can run on them without it being automated.
Cap 🧢
"Like most of time, modders do what SEGA didn't"
That line wasn't necessary
@@royolaniye6643 Right? Like one the comparison is ignorant as ever (and for some reason every game that people don't like gets it), and for another (with no disrespect to modders or praise to Forces) what was done wouldn't be possible without the game itself
You could say that mod-DO-s what seg-CAN'T.
That last one was lazy, but so is Sega.
To think all Sonic Team had to do to make these stages more enjoyable is to, shockingly, make them long enough where you can hear the OST on one loop.
Dammit! If only this was in the game it would have been much more fun to play.
3:50 Me and the bois oow (on our way) to see the Mario Movie
I love how modders speak facts instead of trashing. This is how is done, wonderful job
8:56
Broo... If only that actually happened..
18:06 .........
PHYSIC!!!!
Arsenal Pyramid is long enough to where the music LOOPS, GENIUS!!!
Man, this is a REALLY good mod! I'll have to put this on my copy for more replay value!
"Sonic Forces has no momentum"
Sonic Forces: 9:30
This actually feels like the Generations sequel we should have got. Not vanilla Forces.
This is the be mod of forces I've ever seen, it's truly amazing and so well made
My god I still can't believe Forces could have been the best boost game had they actually tried. . .
Probably not the best but as good as the others, definitely
@@ThibautMahringer eh imo i would've been the best boost imo
@@raphaelbrown6314 Well the controls are still dodgy so it would be hard for it to be the best one in my opinion
@@ThibautMahringer actually the controls in the mod were adjusted to have better physics, plus theres a patch to enable 360 degree movement instead of the 8 direction it does use
@@stanzacosmi In the mod yes, but even if the original game had similar levels to the mod, it would still have the same controls as the original
Makes me wanna install this game and download this. This looks amazing. Saw someone comment talking about the npc and environmental sounds. Defo agree. Overall the custom level design just makes you think this is what sega could have done. This game would have been so much better with this game play
It’s weird we live in a world where this game at launch was better then Sonic Colors Ultimate in every way imaginable, and even better with mods.
8:44 that music sync is crazy
Question; How and why does Sonic fly in the air when you use a swingshot?
The power of friendship. Don't question it.
Sega. You had fans work on Mania and it was a blast. Why not keep that trend up?
It's been a long time since I've player Sonic Forces so I don't remember exactly what was changed, but I can see there's a a mini boss rushing sonic on the doubole booster scene, which I remember it wasn't there.
It’s a huge upgrade, and one that’s been overdue for years now.
Sonic forces but auctally fun
Sunset heights was beautiful, the atmosphere is just on another level
Well, at least we could enjoy the music for more the 20 seconds.
Also known as "If Sonic Forces were given a bit more development time"
Sonic Forces but more longer !
Bro imagine if somebody remade this whole entire game hey if p-06 did it im sure somebody eles can do anything with sonic
I hope a sonic boom rise of lyric fan remaster or alternate version
The expanded portion of Sunset Heights blows my mind, it's so disappointing how in the original level it just ends all of a sudden and he's literally standing off to the side
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8:57 literally
"I found you faker"
I can belive it more than 2 minutes out of the pyramid!
Sunset Heights is just unreal....
This is such a cool mod, honestly if this was what sonic forces was actually like I'd probably think it was an ok game.
Its just sad tho when you compare the real versions of these levels against the mod versions, the real versions just have nothing to them, they barely even count as levels
I don't remember some of the lines said in levels, are they adding new lines? and if so are they getting the original VAs to voice custom lines, or just very good impressionists?
They were unused lines im assuming
I'm positive if this was the product we received, it would still be derided given the nature of Sonic fans (if not just as disliked), but no way you can dock the work done here.
8:14 did this guy put the left 4 dead "no I think the monsters are the monsters idiot" graffiti in this mod
Duuuuude this is so cool man
Suprised this is even salvagable
Good job I guess
Some people don't understand what makes sonic great
Y'know iw as wondering when the changes would begin but then i realized, this is it, EVERYTHING WAS CHANGED. and they're such good levels man
Shame the original game isn't like this
This is what could’ve been for sonic forces if they just had a little more time
so explain the 50 seconds cyberspace levels in Frontiers, they had 5 years
@@vasse5769 Cyberspace is very obviously not the focus of the game lol. Relax a bit.
@@vasse5769 to be fair, the cyberspace levels are side content. They probably spent the five years working on the open world and gameplay mechanics/engine.
@@lucasoliva9208 that is not an excuse, even Forces/Colours have longer extra stages, 50 seconds it's still too short
@@vasse5769 the difference is that Forces and Colors are exclusively boost-style stages. They should be longer because otherwise a casual playthrough takes like 3 hours for each of them. Frontiers has a ton of content in it already, so shorter cyberspace levels aren't the end of the world. Would I like longer levels? Of course, but its not intended to be the main substance of the game so its not the biggest deal in the world.
Dang, you missed out on 1 special stage!
If you collect enough Red Rings, you'll be able to play the second special stage of this mod, it's also one that I really like
“If Sega Had A Brain”
Brian 💀
They made Forces with winding paths? And they're fun shortcuts!
(Insert Cr1t1k4L victory screech)
holy
f*ckin
sh*t
this is great, i mean, this is what Sonic should be like, it's awesome!
god i love the Shadow's entrance scene, theyre doing what sega didnt again. Im really sure if modders would have budget, make better games than sonicteam.
Someone needs to mod a shadow boss fight
WOW DUDE
levels are 3 MINUTES LONG! I can't believe this
This is absolutely amazing. Now, if only we can find a way to improve the mediocre boss battles...
if that's what you call amazing, let me present to you: sonic dash.
Now this… is the Sonic Forces we needed.
No doubt Sonic Frontiers will be the better Sonic Forces.
Nice!
Wow this is real sick honestly I wanna see a mod with whispers Wispon or in other words a weapon who can use all the whisps
This, this should’ve been the original game
4:52 could we actually do that in original game?
Sonic forces modders to fix his game
8:01 wait ain't that a Heroes reference? 😭
to this day...love forces OST! its great!
Imagine if the mod for Sunset Heights would switch you to Shadow after that quick in game cutscene & you need to catch up to Sonic at the end goal & you see Sonic about to fight the fake Shadow. Idk if any of that made sense... but that'd be cool imo.
The base game rushed, so I can see why it wasn’t as good as it could’ve been, which is why this mod is great, it takes the levels, and expands upon them
Actual 3 mins of gameplay?!?! Other than Sonic Unleashed?!?! If SEGA ain’t gonna fix sonic, I’m so glad the community will
sonic forces looks even better than it was before! thanks for Sharing this with us blue!
Challenge? In a Sonic game? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
this game is so good it says it’s sonic frontiers
Fans really does what SEGA don't.
Not really
Sunset heights looks like a decent level lmao
this looks mega fun to play
Agreed
Youre not wrong👀
dang this makes me wanna play sonic forces again.
Pair this mod with a graphics mod that makes the level assets not look like plastic and Forces could be something at least good.
We need to force sega to remake sonic forces
If this was sonic forces,The game would’ve been like a 7
Sonic forces fixed my life
ahh I see, every sonic game is just being remade now I guess, even that one mobile one
I WISH THIS MOD WAS THE ACTUAL GAME😭
Looks cool but tbh can't remember much of the game, all I remember is having to play a Sunset city stage every 2 minutes.
Looks most fans's interest on fangames went to their head
Credit where credit is due. I'd actually pay for sonic forces now if it meant I got to play the levels with these revamped versions.
I never played Forces. What's the difference?
How sad that whenever Sega puts out a Sonic game, it's up to the fans to actually make it decent?
ah yes once again the sonic community has made yet another good game
Cool!
Damn I’m really debating on buying forces on pc now