Extinct Animals that the Britons Saw

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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @HighPriestFuneral
    @HighPriestFuneral Год назад +213

    I love how the King Arthur story sounds like something from a classic RPG, even down to the ridiculous "item drops" from the Boar Leader and gathering a party to fight the larger threat. The way its described Culhwch didn't do anything. He let his powerful cousin handle all of the work while he waited for him to finish the job.

    • @kusakage1266
      @kusakage1266 8 месяцев назад +1

      literally ikwym xdddd i just love how they draw all their faces too back then hahahahah imagine looking like them, how did anyone have kids at all???XDDDD

    • @jamesofallthings3684
      @jamesofallthings3684 8 месяцев назад +1

      No, RPGs sound like the kind Arthur story. Braindead.

    • @xlmtap1192
      @xlmtap1192 6 месяцев назад +15

      @@jamesofallthings3684 which means that King Arthurs story also sounds like something from an RPG. Comparison works both ways. I know you meant that RPGs were inspired by the King Arthur story and not the other way around, but the original comment never mentioned inspiration. They only compared the two. So, no, they are not braindead. Their brain is working well enough to make a completely correct comparison, it's just that you weren't able to get it.

    • @plorin3015
      @plorin3015 Месяц назад +2

      @@jamesofallthings3684don’t take too long to respond bud lmao

    • @Smoneey
      @Smoneey 5 дней назад +1

      Might come from folk memory of producing bone tools from certain animals. Less of those animals having fully made items but the materials used to make these specific tools.

  • @chucknorrismlg425
    @chucknorrismlg425 3 года назад +150

    For a new youtuber you make really good high quality videos! Im really interested in welsh and celtic history in general so i am definitly watch your future videos. Keep up the good work!

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  3 года назад +17

      Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! I’m glad you’re interested, there’s a new video coming soon in the next few days!

    • @jeevanrehal3324
      @jeevanrehal3324 2 года назад +5

      YOOOOOO CHUCK NORRIS

  • @CambrianChronicles
    @CambrianChronicles  3 года назад +107

    Hello again! This is a bit of a different video than the last two, focusing more on mythology than strictly history, but I hope you find it interesting nonetheless!
    It also turns out that having a friend who lives near a public footpath that has a forest and is willing to record ~60 seconds of background footage for you is both extremely specific and very useful!
    The next video I’ll be working on will be a bit more in-depth than the first two, with a focus on the medieval sources (with examples!) rather than just a brief chronology, I hope that sounds interesting and I’ll see you all again in 2-3 weeks.
    Edit: for anyone new reading, the video I’m describing in this comment has run into some hiccups, so I’m working on a few smaller projects that’ll come out before this one (while I’m still working on it), the next one should be out in the next few days

  • @WhichDoctor1
    @WhichDoctor1 Год назад +175

    from across the boarder my favourite wolf related fact is that the city of Wolverhampton started out as a plot of land owned by a Anglo-Saxon noblewoman called Wulfrun (which means wolf run). And her son was called Wulfric (which means wolf ruler) and his nickname was Spot. Which leads me to the unshakable conviction that Wolverhampton was founded by a family of wear wolves

    • @CHAAAAAOTIC
      @CHAAAAAOTIC Год назад +7

      Imagine your king being named Wulfric

    • @jussikankinen9409
      @jussikankinen9409 Год назад

      Vikings moved moon light with wolf head

    • @WildwoodTV
      @WildwoodTV 10 месяцев назад

      There's a place near me called 'Wolfshead' would have been in Wales

    • @hollyingraham3980
      @hollyingraham3980 9 месяцев назад +5

      This just shows the Anglo-Saxons were Germanic. As a theme, first or second, wulf or ulf is very common, Wulfric in or Cynewulf. As well, families using a single theme until they wore it out was common, like Hadubrand son of Chlodubrand son of Arnebrand.
      So Wulfrun is just like someone named Black founding Blacksburgh or Daniel Boone founding Boonesboro.

    • @rumpelpumpel7687
      @rumpelpumpel7687 9 месяцев назад

      where were werewolves wearing fur?

  • @EmilyCaissie
    @EmilyCaissie Год назад +17

    I came across this randomly and am studying Welsh and it’s not easy (I’m Canadian there’s not many resources) but hearing and reading Welsh is helpful, I played back many instances and repeated them. I also love that the evil boars had surnames.

  • @cadian101st
    @cadian101st Год назад +718

    Coming from America it was so weird moving to Scotland and realising pretty much the biggest natural predator was a fox. I get the wolves being gone, only coyotes are left where I am from, but boar and bears being gone is astounding. I could have left it at Britain being an island, but now I live in Japan where bear and boars still roam so I am once again astounded.

    • @owellafehr5191
      @owellafehr5191 Год назад +50

      Same - I'm from Canada and have lived in northern BC for the past few years, where moose, bears, and deer are all fairly common. It's wild to me to think that none of them live wild in England/Britain (except maybe the deer?)

    • @justmyselfcn
      @justmyselfcn Год назад +42

      @@owellafehr5191 Roe deer and red deer live wild in Britain. There are also a small number of moose in Scotland living wild, but only due to successful reintroduction measures. Boar have reintroduced themselves throughout Britain by escaping from farm enclosures and now have a stable population.

    • @owellafehr5191
      @owellafehr5191 Год назад +5

      @@justmyselfcn Interesting - I have no idea about the moose! I actually remember seeing some deer at the grounds of a castle/palace when I was in England, but I thought they were probably semi-tame/there for tourists to see.

    • @Dearth_Vader
      @Dearth_Vader Год назад +21

      Theres some evidence of a small population of big cats living in the uk, from people releasing them into the wild after they made it illegal to own them or whatnot

    • @Idle_Hands
      @Idle_Hands Год назад +19

      Boars have been reintroduced to England. They were gone from the isles because we hunted them to extinction for food, theyre agressive if they have young and it was also a status thing to kill a Boar since they dont go down easily. a symbol is strength used a lot by the celts and algo saxons/jutes/ frisians etc etc

  • @AnnaMarianne
    @AnnaMarianne 3 месяца назад +12

    In the Finnish language, we've lost and forgotten what the real name of the bear is. Because people were afraid to use its real name, out of the fear that it might hear you talking about it and come over. So people came up with many kennings, such as karhu (coarse [hair]), otso (wide-brow), mesikämmen (mead paw), etc. Today, one of the kennings, karhu, has become the new "real" name.

    • @aino-kaisav5504
      @aino-kaisav5504 21 день назад

      There are some estimations, based on other Fenno-Ugric languages, that the original word could have been "oksi", or something similar. Really fascinating stuff, shows how much language is linked to culture!

  • @richarddaniel6896
    @richarddaniel6896 2 года назад +36

    I'm from Ammanford and the symbol of our valley, school, rugby club, etc, is the boar. We have a 'modern' sculpture of three boars at the edge of town.

  • @imaad2042
    @imaad2042 3 года назад +69

    Welsh people are so calm

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  3 года назад +34

      Thank you for watching! I think it’s all the rain that makes us so calm

    • @sterlingdafydd5834
      @sterlingdafydd5834 2 года назад +7

      Bwaaaaaa haaaaaa haaaaaaa !!!!

    • @davidyates1860
      @davidyates1860 2 года назад +3

      I'm welsh canadain

    • @sterlingdafydd5834
      @sterlingdafydd5834 2 года назад +13

      @@davidyates1860 I’m Welsh-Texan…my mum grew up in Llanidloes……I’ve never known the Welsh to be “calm”..!!!!!!

    • @leephillips6405
      @leephillips6405 2 года назад +7

      Not met my wife we are welsh welsh and calm is not a word I would use 😂😂

  • @JackSardonic
    @JackSardonic 2 года назад +323

    On the Anglo-Saxons' refusal to name bears directly, it's worth mentioning that _Beowulf_ means "bee wolf", which is theoretically another OE kenning for a bear (similar to the Slavic etymological references to honey that you mentioned). If this is true, then it might invoke an Anglo-Saxon berserker cult similar to the Norse _ulfhethnar._

    • @suzbone
      @suzbone Год назад +1

      Cool!

    • @Rauser142
      @Rauser142 Год назад +2

      or they were simply afraid of them

    • @auzawandilaz6971
      @auzawandilaz6971 9 месяцев назад +1

      Perhaps from Bēow. a Wolf of the God Bēow

  • @cecemepls0
    @cecemepls0 Год назад +10

    “He also wasn’t real” made me laugh way harder than it should have 😂

  • @owellafehr5191
    @owellafehr5191 Год назад +8

    I love how you concluded it - you'll never see any of these animals in Wales nowadays, but you might meet the many-times-great-grandchild of someone who did! What an interesting way to think about it.

  • @celtofcanaanesurix2245
    @celtofcanaanesurix2245 2 года назад +48

    I've been binge watching your videos, and I love the mix of highly informative and clearly well learned facts, sources for those facts, and jokes mixed in between. As a lover of the welsh language and someone who wants to know more about the history of this group of his ancestors, I hope to see more from you.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  2 года назад +5

      Thank you so much! I’m really happy you’ve been enjoying them, there will be many more to come!

  • @fringeflix
    @fringeflix 3 года назад +941

    Too bad you didn't mention the newest extinct animal in Wales, the grey squirrel! It went extinct on Anglesey after nearly two decades of a mass eradication to get their numbers down, but it spun out of control and culled all of them. There's now a debate on a colonization effort from the rest of Britain to migrate them back over into Anglesey, but it's unknown whether they will be re-introduced.
    Edit- hey folks. Not sure why people are still replying to this. Everyone seeing they've seen the squirrel in Anglesey/Wales, they must have been reintroduced.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  3 года назад +264

      Oh wow I didn’t know they wiped them out! I’m not sure if they’ll succeed in a campaign to reintroduce them though, they are considered an invasive species after all

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk 3 года назад +52

      Did you mean the red squirrel?

    • @fringeflix
      @fringeflix 3 года назад +187

      @@ftumschk No sir! The red squirrel was under threat of endangerment because the grey squirrel population climbed so high due to outcompeting them. Eventually, to save the red squirrel, the Welsh government culled the grey squirrel population too much by accident. The red squirrel was saved and allowed to flourish again at the cost of the greys. Hope that cleared it up!

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk 3 года назад +69

      @@fringeflix Thanks for the clarification. I did a double-take when you said that the grey squirrel was extinct in Wales. There are plenty of grey squirrels elsewhere in Wales... outside Anglesey, evidently :)

    • @fringeflix
      @fringeflix 3 года назад +24

      @@ftumschk No issue man :) I've never been to Wales, so I wasn't too sure of the squirrel scene in the British Isles, but I am fairly up on environmental issues. It would appear as if Anglesey is going the same way with squirrels as Ireland did, with the whole "no snakes" thing. Apparently, Anglesey has this whole elaborate ecosystem they have to keep in constant (sometimes forced) balance because it's a small island with a huge biodiversity. I guess squirrels are just the tip of the iceberg!

  • @Rocinante2300
    @Rocinante2300 2 года назад +9

    The foremost expert of Welsh history on RUclips!

  • @k-matsu
    @k-matsu Год назад +132

    Interesting to hear the history. All three animals have a very important part to play in legend because all three have similar habitat, diet and intelligence. That is to say - all three tend to be direct competitors with humans, and thus, they are simultaneously feared (hunted) and respected by people emerging into an agricultural society.
    In Japan we still have boars and bears throughout the mountains. Ive encountered both, just walking in the fields near my house. While they are smaller than the European versions, you certainly dont want to surprise one. Japanese schoolchildren wear bells on their backpacks just in case there are inoshishi (boars) or kuma (bears) nearby as they walk to school. Their importance in legend is similar to that in European societies, as well. Many of the great heroes of Japans pre-truly-historic past are associated with some victory over a great bear or a destructive herd of boars.
    Our wolf is extinct, though, and was probably not all that common in Japan even in Jomon times. Our shapeshifting trickster creature is the kitsune (fox) - and Japanese foxes can be quite large. It is intersting, though, how all three groups have similar places in myth and legend, not only throughout Europe but in North America and Asia, as well.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  Год назад +15

      That is fascinating, thank you for sharing!

    • @Lurts99
      @Lurts99 Год назад +10

      There were also Tigers in Japan at the time of human settlement. Could be a useful species to re-introduce today to keep the massive Sika Deer and introduced Muntjac population in check.

    • @2yoyoyo1Unplugged
      @2yoyoyo1Unplugged Год назад +2

      The Japanese perspective on history and myth is always so fascinating to hear. The storytelling is unmatched. I hope in my studies of the Japanese language and culture that I become competent enough to read and learn more of this sort of take on things all cultures have, but through the lens of a culture I did not come from.
      The idea of the kitsune being a trickster of shaky morality or intent has also always fascinated me. Could that stem from some sort of tendency for foxes to attack sometimes? I mean I can't imagine a fox being aggressive enough towards a person where it would fight rather than flee, but you DID say Japanese foxes are rather large...

  • @MUSTASCH1O
    @MUSTASCH1O Год назад +93

    The boars have been reintroduced, or possibly escaped, into some UK woods. Beavers are being trialed in parts too. Perhaps one day wolves could come back in the larger parks to control the deer.
    Of course, after hundreds of years without wolves or bears, a large educational programme would be needed to inform people of how to stay safe in those places they were introduced.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  Год назад +33

      Yeah I don't think wolves or bears would be super feasible, unlike in Italy for example where they expanded a still-existing population, Wolves and especially bears have been extinct for hundreds of years.
      The food chain that the bears used to fit in to is also gone, so by now they may not even provide that much of a benefit, or at least not until a long-term population is established. It'd also be hard to sell to the public.
      Beavers, though, I hope make a big comeback, one was recently photographed again in Wales for the first time in centuries!

    • @scallopohare9431
      @scallopohare9431 Год назад +17

      Oh, dear! Here in the US, we have assorted bears, mountain lions, and other predators. We also have people who go blythly wandering about in parks alone and/or without ant form of protection. And then, we have families desperately searching for missing hikers. I'll spare you the bigfoot theories. Point is, you will not educate folks to use good sense around wildlife.

    • @beetrootmcguillicuddy4185
      @beetrootmcguillicuddy4185 Год назад +13

      We have these problems in the US too. The big problem with wolves is that no one ever told them that the fences are for them and even though biologists publish articles and maps of where the wolves are supposed to live they still dont know because wolves cant read.

    • @newoneinblack
      @newoneinblack Год назад +12

      What absurdity, thinking you need PACKS OF WOLVES to control deer populations. Ask any king of olde how to do that, they'll tell you - just pass a law against the peasants poaching. I jest, but seriously, just ration out a few hunting licenses each year.

    • @MUSTASCH1O
      @MUSTASCH1O Год назад +5

      @@newoneinblack The presence of the wolves themselves for wildlife watching value would be a key motivation too. They wouldn't be purely a control mechanism. The UK is a densely populated island so it would take a lot of work to bring them back and would likely only be possible in the most remote regions, and it is unlikely we'll be ready in our lifetimes. I'm not suggesting we bring them back before people are ready.
      I don't see why people couldn't learn to live with wolves in specially designated reserves if there was a great enough desire. It is a matter of education, signage and setting rules for compensation where applicable.
      In the meantime, a lot of other work is needed to enrich our natural resources before a serious debate is had about introducing apex predators capable of harming humans. You are safe from the wolves for now.

  • @imogenagnew
    @imogenagnew 3 года назад +12

    What a joy to watch! My favourite video so far thank you so much for sharing

  • @kristiandent1798
    @kristiandent1798 3 года назад +9

    I’m already in love with your work.
    Diolch ✌🏼

  • @veuzou
    @veuzou Год назад +11

    very interesting, thank you. Here in Brittany we have a saint Envel who came from Wales after the Saxon invasion with his sister Yuna (a saint too). He's represented with a wolf. The wolf ate the saint's donkey and then was condemned to take its place, carrying things and pulling the saint's plough.

  • @martinwarner1178
    @martinwarner1178 Год назад +2

    Like your style. Very much enjoyed the presentation, and content. Peace be unto you.

  • @patrickoconnell4879
    @patrickoconnell4879 2 года назад +10

    Each video is already an improvement on the previous (and those are also still v good), from the perspective of someone who knows v little about this stuff I find particularly the more specific ones like this v engaging

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  2 года назад +3

      Thank you so much, I really appreciate your support! I like making specific videos as they help reel in my attention span, so I’m really glad you like them!

  • @ieatmice751
    @ieatmice751 9 месяцев назад

    Gelert is one of my favourite British folk stories. It’s so tragic and shows the loyalty and nobility of our canine friends 😢

  • @zekeolopwi6642
    @zekeolopwi6642 Год назад +43

    As someone from the Midwest in America, your lack of wolves, bears, and boars baffles me. I don't think any American outside of cities would grow up without seeing at least one of those 😂

    • @newoneinblack
      @newoneinblack Год назад +2

      Hey, it's hard work civilizing things. Apparently the Brittons are up for the job. ;-)

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 Год назад +23

      @@newoneinblack A few years back a survey of forests in the UK came up with the startling conclusion that ALL forested land in Britain bear marks of forestry management stretching back at least 300 years and possibly 1000 years in some places. This means there are technically no more "natural" forests left. That's really crazy when you think about it.

    • @peterjeremymckenzie8444
      @peterjeremymckenzie8444 Год назад +12

      Minnisota is 86,000 sq miles, Wales is 8,000 sq miles. People are in close proximity everywhere, it is surprising to me that foxes have survived, the biggest predator left, and still hunted. Even the Pine Martin, 3.5lbs are having to be re-introduced as game-keepers in Victorian times almost made them extinct.

    • @zekeolopwi6642
      @zekeolopwi6642 Год назад +1

      @@peterjeremymckenzie8444 Fair. The size difference between just states and Wales is quite astonishing.

    • @robertewalt7789
      @robertewalt7789 Год назад +3

      Even some of us in suburban NYC have seen wolves and bears, but not boars.

  • @entwistlefromthewho
    @entwistlefromthewho 2 года назад +23

    Culhwch and Olwen was an inspiration for J. R. R. Tolkien's Beren and Lúthien

    • @evandonovan9239
      @evandonovan9239 Год назад

      Wow - that makes a lot of sense. I didn't know of this myth until today.

  • @commandercody2980
    @commandercody2980 6 месяцев назад +4

    I love how people were so afraid of calling bears by their real name that the thing they called them instead has become the real name

  • @TuorTheBlessedOfUlmo
    @TuorTheBlessedOfUlmo 2 года назад +10

    i named my dog gelert, i never heard the story until my partner who is welsh told me. that sent me down the rabbit hole of welsh mythology and history and its such a fascinating place

  • @jeevanrehal3324
    @jeevanrehal3324 3 года назад +6

    I apologise for the captiols letters I used I was speeking in a gentle tone

  • @richieaerthen24
    @richieaerthen24 10 месяцев назад +3

    When is "Stupidest Animals I am glad are extinct" coming?
    Really looking forward to that one

  • @KingMoogoe
    @KingMoogoe 3 года назад +5

    Enjoying this channel good work!

  • @angharadhafod
    @angharadhafod 2 года назад +17

    Aberarth - Ceredigion, where the river Arth flows into the sea. I always assumed this was Arth as in Bear.
    In a weird twist, the river Arth is one of few rivers which has a Boar (not the animal though - in this case, the phenomenon of a tidal surge).

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  2 года назад +5

      I'd heard of that but I wasn't sure, the source I used mentioned that Dinerth is apparently the only place with certainty, as the "arth" element can also apparently refer to cliffs, such as in Penarth in south Wales

    • @angharadhafod
      @angharadhafod 2 года назад +1

      @@CambrianChronicles Ah yes - I guess that's a corruption of Allt? Or maybe simply an alternative form of allt.
      Just the other side of Aberaeron to Aberarth, there's Llanarth too. As there are steep hills down to the sea, your explanation makes sense.

    • @peterjeremymckenzie8444
      @peterjeremymckenzie8444 Год назад

      Penarth could also just be Pen + Garth with the G being dropped as a easier pronounciation. Garth being an enclosure or a hill. Personally always fancied the cliff originally having the outline of a bears head.

    • @Galactus-gp8jj
      @Galactus-gp8jj Год назад

      Arth mean Earth 🌎 idiot

  • @gabriellavedier9650
    @gabriellavedier9650 Месяц назад +1

    Taming a wolf is apparently a minor, lesser power of real world clerics. St. Francis did that too, to the wolf of Gubbio, though he didn't own it, the town did. Apparently they loved their giant doggo, it was found buried in a church.

  • @poogmaster1
    @poogmaster1 Год назад +3

    Your old videos are more sassy than your new ones. Im okay with either but I think I prefer the more academic approach

  • @gwynedd4023
    @gwynedd4023 3 года назад +7

    i love your videos! thank you

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 11 месяцев назад +2

    The bear and the wolf may be gone but the beaver has made a return. So it looks like they won in the end.
    The idea of not mentioning an animal as to do so may be unluck is still something which happens today. In the City of Hull those who were trawlermen and their families would never say the word rat as it is believed to be connected with them leaving a sinking ship. Instead they would either spell the animals name or would call them longtails. Though the fishing industry has long gone the word longtails is still used today by some of the older generation.

  • @harveytweats2119
    @harveytweats2119 2 года назад +12

    You say that you won't see a boar in Welsh woodlands, but they are returning, they are on the border, in the forest of Dean

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  2 года назад +4

      True, maybe someday you will run into one!

    • @ChrisShute62
      @ChrisShute62 Год назад

      Yes, I've seen them near Mitcheldean. I think the cricket pitch there has barbed wire added below their fences in order to keep the rascals out!

  • @CymruCreator
    @CymruCreator 2 года назад +13

    you know what would get your channel more attention? if you chronicle the many Welsh names in the game Elden Ring.
    The most obvious one that people would notice is the character 'Blaidd' the giant wer-wolf.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  2 года назад +10

      True, if I ever get around to playing Elden Ring I’ll try and find them all!

  • @AndrewGruffudd
    @AndrewGruffudd 2 года назад +8

    I was under the impression that the story of Beddgelert was a Victorian concoction of the town's leaders, so to effect an increase in the tourist trade, much like the story of the name Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogeryllchwerndrobwllllantissiliogogogoch.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  2 года назад +14

      The story itself is a real story, but the connection to Beddgelert was indeed made up for the exact reasons you said

  • @jammybizzle666
    @jammybizzle666 Год назад +1

    I have seen a boar in Wales - there are lots near Monmouth

  • @mmyr8ado.360
    @mmyr8ado.360 Год назад

    0:53 The meme with someone pointing a bear figure as Freddy Fazbear and singing Toreador afterwards comes to mind.

  • @deancoopey1256
    @deancoopey1256 Год назад

    Excellent video.
    There’s a village- Bleddfa in the Radnor forest aswell.

  • @stuffedninja1337
    @stuffedninja1337 Год назад +1

    I spit-laughed hard at the ending and I blame you lol

  • @jeevanrehal3324
    @jeevanrehal3324 3 года назад +3

    Such a good video so mooch loooveeee

  • @LiminalQueenMedia
    @LiminalQueenMedia Год назад

    You should consider remastering these older video's sound, I think it would improve their tail performance a lot.

  • @Lou.B
    @Lou.B 9 месяцев назад

    Very interesting! Thank You!

  • @leonroberts7273
    @leonroberts7273 Год назад

    I am new to this, I appreciate what you are saying, my ancestors come from northern Wales. Thank you.

  • @roosjen
    @roosjen Год назад +2

    It’s been a while since you got 100 likes. Where is that video you promised? It should be epic!

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  Год назад

      I'm definitely going to make it at some point, probably for a subscriber milestone like 100k or something

    • @kubbybear5458
      @kubbybear5458 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@CambrianChronicles but you have over 100k now! I came to the comments to see if anyone asks about this video.
      I recently found your channel and have been immensely enjoying your work and just subscribed. I'm in the u.s. and when I was younger was told I have Welsh in my lineage, so getting to learn about what you present has felt connecting!
      Keep up the good work!

  • @ScotchIrishHoundsman
    @ScotchIrishHoundsman Год назад

    The story about the hound that killed the wolves and the owner, thinking that the hound had killed his son, is an old folk song in America. I had no clue that the story was that old! That’s the coolest thing I’ve heard all year!

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  Год назад +1

      Ah I didn't know it made it into a folk song either! I've seen occasional mentions that the general story premise is even older, so who knows how far back it could go!

    • @ScotchIrishHoundsman
      @ScotchIrishHoundsman Год назад

      @@CambrianChronicles ruclips.net/video/YGnPj-Ty2Ew/видео.htmlsi=bU8bs7sRFsOVxvOX

    • @ScotchIrishHoundsman
      @ScotchIrishHoundsman Год назад

      I’m gonna have to look into it, that’s extremely interesting!

  • @HonneTheFinnicHeathen
    @HonneTheFinnicHeathen Год назад +4

    It's also in ancient Finland where you would not mention bear directly, but avoid it by using words such as Otso, Kontio, Mesikämmen (honey claw), Mettä, Metsä, Otava and even Mörkö. I'm guessing it's thought to be because the word Karhu (bear) is similar to the word Karhea (rough).
    I wonder if any other cultures, such as Native Americans, or the tribes in Eastern Russia and the Ainu people, who the bear is a very meaningful animal have the spewing the name of bear be a taboo.

  • @mathieuleperson836
    @mathieuleperson836 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for your content!
    I did not know of Brynach, but I live close to menez bre in Britanny, a hill related to saint Hervé. He is represented with a tame wolf in his iconography, and his questionable hagiography mentions a story of taming the wolf which had killed a peasant work cattle, so that it has to pull the plow instead.

  • @CorinneDunbar-ls3ej
    @CorinneDunbar-ls3ej Год назад +6

    I enjoyed this so much. With regard to Twrch Trwyth, I have read so many interpretations over the years: the boar as an ancient constellation with his journey following its course, the boar as a bristling sun sign that can cause devastation, the route taken by Cerdic from his homelands to Wessex, the route used for carrying the Preseli bluestones to Stonehenge, an account of the precisely mapped place names on the journey, the Indo European custom of sending out young men to kill a boar, returning to have their hair cut as a rite of passage into adulthood and kingship, and so on.
    All I ever feel with any story in the Mabinogian is a profound frustration. It's this hotchpotch of elements from so many times and places, with all original context and significance lost. It is infuriatingly tantalising! It is also strange and beautiful and mesmerising.
    I feel as though there are the ghosts of significance in it. Some of these stories must have origins thousands of years ago. It must be highly significant that Twrch was an Irish prince, not a Welsh prince....but that he journeyed to Wales. It must be significant that he landed at St David's, of all places. And Arthur....almost as a Celtic foster-father.
    We shall never know how it started. I suppose we have to be very thankful that we have these stories at all. Thank you for your video. It was great.

    • @CorinneDunbar-ls3ej
      @CorinneDunbar-ls3ej Год назад

      Another theory I've read at some point was that Twrch was a particularly vicious Irish raider into Wales, who was fought and conquered by a Brythonic warlord ('Arthur'??) in the early sub-Roman period. He was possibly targeting Christian sites.
      Sadly, we shall never know.

    • @AnneDowson-vp8lg
      @AnneDowson-vp8lg Год назад

      I have read that the boars could have represented some Vandals who lived in Carthage on the North African coast but were driven out by the Byzantine general Belisarious in 535AD. Three shiploads escaped, and it believed they could have gone to Ireland. They were driven out of there by the original Fiana Foil warriors led by Finn McCool, so tried to invade Britain. Although they were subdued, it seems some of them settled in the Midlands, where certain families have the Blue Boar on their coats of arms and there are many pubs with boar 🐗 names.

    • @CorinneDunbar-ls3ej
      @CorinneDunbar-ls3ej Год назад

      @@AnneDowson-vp8lg How absolutely fascinating. I must look into that. Huge thank you.
      Odd that Richard III's emblem was the boar too.

  • @mon_moi
    @mon_moi 8 месяцев назад +1

    Not enough people talk about the sheer insanity of the 4th Branch of the Mabinogion (especially Glifaethwy and Gwydion's incest mpreg werewolf son). Have you considered making videos dedicated solely to the tales of the Mabinogion? My favourite is definitely Lludd and Llefelys because I consider that story to be a muddle of mythical tropes and motifs

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  7 месяцев назад +1

      Definitely someday, Lludd and Llefelys is a personal favourite of mine too!

  • @douglasfell4199
    @douglasfell4199 8 месяцев назад

    Arth is fairly widely used in lowland scotland, Airth as an example. Arthurs fort was Athkar where car is round enclosure or fort.

  • @JohnnnyJohn
    @JohnnnyJohn Год назад +1

    That boar was very sus!
    I'll show myself out.

  • @DCdabest
    @DCdabest 9 месяцев назад

    The Welsh just straight up refering to bears as their non-kenning name is such a funny thing to me.
    I'm just imagining some ancient Britons scaring away superstitious Saxons by yelling, "arth!" loudly and waving their arms.

  • @GG-jw8pt
    @GG-jw8pt 8 месяцев назад

    Very similar story here in kilkenny- The wolves of Ossory. 👍🇮🇪

  • @egorm-yw3eu
    @egorm-yw3eu Год назад +1

    Idk if this is intentional but shouldn't y be used as the article for all the words at 0:18 except yr arth bc arth begins with a vowel?

  • @kati-ya
    @kati-ya 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hello! bit late but ah well, here in Donegal we have an animal sanctuary called “Wildlife Ireland” that rescues bears, wolves, boars ect. its got loads of info about ancient wildlife here, if you’re ever curious to see these homies irl you should pop in! of course they wont be the exact same as their extinct neighbors but it’s something ahaha

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  9 месяцев назад +1

      Definitely will if I'm ever nearby, thank you for the recommendation!

  • @weilandiv8310
    @weilandiv8310 Год назад +1

    Great channel

  • @DGE123
    @DGE123 2 года назад +3

    Dont forget the 'Covi Ape' a rare and dangerous beast with a penchant for harmony singing and fermented fruit!

    • @chrisc9755
      @chrisc9755 Год назад

      and it's distinctive mating call
      Tiawncont!

  • @wolfganggugelweith8760
    @wolfganggugelweith8760 Год назад +1

    Whats about Woodwose there?

  • @user-pi7sj4wm8p
    @user-pi7sj4wm8p Год назад +1

    5:17 NOOOOO HE WAS THE GOODEST BOY NOOOOO

  • @nickbarber2080
    @nickbarber2080 Год назад +1

    Escaped wild boars have re-naturalised in the South of England (Sussex mainly,but also neighbouring parts of Kent and Hampshire)

  • @squiggymcsquig6170
    @squiggymcsquig6170 8 месяцев назад +1

    What about the Vicious Chicken of Bristol and the Killer Rabbit of Caer Bannog?

  • @kelvyquayo
    @kelvyquayo 9 месяцев назад

    @02:04
    nice. The Irish word for pig is ‘múc’.

  • @coryparni3620
    @coryparni3620 2 года назад +2

    Glad ther was no talk of dragans in this one.

  • @joshuabradshaw9120
    @joshuabradshaw9120 Год назад +1

    Interesting how the proto Indoeuropean word for bear was retained in the Italic (Latin and its modern descendants as well as extinct languages like Oscan and Umbrian) and Celtic languages but was replaced with a descriptive term in the Slavic and Germanic languages. What’s interesting too is how the English words ‘mother’ ‘father’ ‘son’ ‘daughter’ ‘brother’ and ‘sister’ have similar sounding cognates in most languages of Europe. In certain languages, for instance the Romance languages the words ‘son’ and ‘daughter’ were replaced with filius and filia, and brother and sister (frater/soror)were replaced in Spanish and Portuguese with other terms from Latin (hermano/irmão, hermana/irmão). In the Slavic languages the word for father and daughter were replaced.

    • @differous01
      @differous01 Год назад +1

      Welsh 'Arth' - cognate with Greek 'Arctos' - is widely replaced by the euphemism 'Bryn' (eg. St Brynach, and the land of Brynach/English Beornicia, later Northumbria). Their agricultural revolution being more advanced, Roman & Greek city states (including Celtic Galatia), had less to fear than people in the Circle of Arctos: where Mamma Bear is always above the horizon, and Baby She-Bear (Ursa Minor) dances around the Pole.

    • @F_A_F123
      @F_A_F123 Год назад +2

      The word for daughter in Slavic languages wasn't replaced, it's a cognate to words for daughter in Germanic languages and others. For example, in Russian, it's doč, and it even preserves the r in declension, Gen. dóčer’i for example

    • @joshuabradshaw9120
      @joshuabradshaw9120 Год назад

      @@F_A_F123 I stand corrected, thanks for the clarification.

  • @brutusthebear9050
    @brutusthebear9050 Год назад +4

    1:45 Remember that these are Roman miles (I assume) not modern American Customary miles. Also the length of any island depends on how you measure coasts. 500 Roman miles is ~460 US survey miles. And 900 Roman miles is ~827 US survey miles.

    • @newoneinblack
      @newoneinblack Год назад

      And then there's nautical miles, metric attempts at a mile kilometers (they're a bit short).

  • @AndyZach
    @AndyZach Год назад

    Fun to hear of Welsh mythology, which is often used in fantasy stories. One was the Paradise War trilogy where it speaks of the now extinct oryx, a gigantic bovine once native to Britain.

    • @deinsilverdrac8695
      @deinsilverdrac8695 Год назад

      You mean auroch ?
      Bos primigenius
      The large wild ancestor of modern eurasian cattle.
      . because there's no oryx in Europe and never have been.
      Those are large antelope of desert in Africa and arabian peninsula.

  • @Nova-Franconia
    @Nova-Franconia Год назад +1

    Wait… the isles don’t have boars? They’re around on the mainland, so I always thought they must have them as well…

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  Год назад +3

      They became extinct in around the 1700s if I remember right. Islands have a much smaller reserve population, so their numbers can't typically be replaced from the continent, like European populations could.

  • @iamearthbornami
    @iamearthbornami 2 года назад

    what about Upper Cwm Twrch in South Wales near Swansea ?

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  2 года назад

      Another good pick, I hadn't heard of that one unfortunately!

  • @jfjoubertquebec
    @jfjoubertquebec 2 года назад

    I would love to hear your thoughts on the lark... ehedydd
    Bonjour du Québec!

  • @richieaerthen24
    @richieaerthen24 10 месяцев назад

    Great video, thank you
    Wild to imagine some of these no longer live in the UK, back home (Ukraine) we've still got all of those

  • @alphatoomegabeyondthematri5166

    Very good stories but the Boar are back I` have some on my land near Llandeilo so they are back and spreading fast throughout England and Wales.

  • @douglasscott7614
    @douglasscott7614 2 года назад +4

    Boars are not extinct in Europe or the UK, where there are abt 2,600 individuals

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  2 года назад +4

      They were extinct in Britain until being reintroduced recently!

    • @douglasscott7614
      @douglasscott7614 2 года назад +1

      @@CambrianChronicles Yay! It's so exciting hearing about all these new conservation and reintroduction efforts.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  2 года назад +3

      I agree! They’re reintroducing beavers in England as well, hopefully they can try to reintroduce them into Wales, the Teifi apparently used to be famous for its beavers!

    • @douglasscott7614
      @douglasscott7614 2 года назад +1

      @@CambrianChronicles Apart from the populations of beavers in Scotland, I know there's one in Cornwall as well already. Fingers crossed for the Wales project. Also, they're testing out a herd of European bison somewhere in Kent. Should be interesting to see how they'll affect their surroundings without any predators.

    • @deinsilverdrac8695
      @deinsilverdrac8695 Год назад

      ​​@@douglasscott7614
      It was not conservation effort or reintroduction.
      Boar have escaped from captivity.
      And UK governement made it clear they were openly hostile to this species.
      Making special laws to make sure no one could own one and reintroduce them illegaly (like with beavers)
      And that they had no rights nor legal protection so we could cull them over and over
      As for bison
      It's only a few individuals and in a enclosure
      How they impact their ecosystem
      Really positive impact on biodiversity overall.
      And don't worry about regulation, it would take decade for thel to get to a point where it become usefull.
      Because 2600 i very very low.
      Also actually ressources and Space are also regulator, we don't always need predators, nature regulate itself.
      Except when human are idiots, like with deers in Scotland,
      Yeah there we would need lynx and wolves back

  • @CrowSkeleton
    @CrowSkeleton Год назад

    I think St. Brynach just had a pet wolf (or high-content wolfdog) and everyone was as impressed as heck.

  • @jonathanUnderscore
    @jonathanUnderscore 10 месяцев назад

    I could just hear the airquotes around the word “historian” for Gildas lol

  • @franc9111
    @franc9111 9 месяцев назад

    Something that surprises me is that extensive archaeological digs across France have shown quite conclusively that the Gauls didn't eat wild boar, they ate domesticated beasts such as pigs and cattle. Astérix got it wrong. I fully realise that in Irish and Welsh mythology there are accounts of great feasting on wild boar, but were they exagerating ? Of course today in the UK, wild boar have made a comeback, though more by accident than by design, so perhaps some might have made their way back to Wales.

  • @taranullius9221
    @taranullius9221 8 месяцев назад

    Came for possible sightings of men with their faces on their stomachs, stayed for the Welsh history.

  • @CB-py1xh
    @CB-py1xh Год назад +2

    Crazy to think that boars got extinct in Britain - in coninental Europe their population is always on the brink of growing to numerous to be supported by their natural habitats, so they wander into some cities searching or food - despite being hunted. There are said to be 5000 boars within in the city limits of Berlin alone.

    • @deinsilverdrac8695
      @deinsilverdrac8695 Год назад

      1 UK is an island that help
      3 they also nearly went extinct in lot if Europe, especially western Europe.
      Just like chamois, beavers, red deer, Ibex, mute Swan, crane and other.
      We really can't stress enough how nature conservation program helped europe last wildlife.
      To à point where we forgot they were threathened or rare.

  • @cormacolinde
    @cormacolinde 10 месяцев назад

    That boar hunt in Ireland is very reminiscent of the hunting of Charcharoth by Beren and Thingol in The Silmarillion.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  9 месяцев назад

      Tolkien had a lot of inspiration from Wales, he taught Medieval Welsh if I'm not mistaken

  • @bobknobbe3561
    @bobknobbe3561 5 месяцев назад +1

    i heard tales in the UK about the mysterious Dentist. Apparently at one time there were some seen in London. But it could have been a Hoax.

  • @idkwhattomakemyname101
    @idkwhattomakemyname101 Год назад

    The boar story with Arthur reminds me a lot of the beren and luthien story by Tolkien

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 7 месяцев назад

      Tolkein was inspired by this story.

  • @nataliepascoe9301
    @nataliepascoe9301 Год назад +2

    Penarth in the Vale of Glamorgan. Bear's head.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  Год назад

      It may also be referring to cliffs (garth)! Hence why it's hard to determine

  • @MarcLebern
    @MarcLebern Год назад +2

    Bear = Arzh in breton language quite close Welsh language, Town of Dinard (Din Arzh).

    • @michaelhalsall5684
      @michaelhalsall5684 Год назад

      Wolf in the Welsh language = Blaidd . Wolf in Breton language = Bleiz. Welsh and Breton are both Brythonic Celtic languages.

  • @maggoli67
    @maggoli67 Год назад

    Seen a wolf and plenty of bears in Canada...just saw my first boar in Asia, crossing my path. Stirring sight.

  • @petegreenway8953
    @petegreenway8953 9 месяцев назад

    They're not common wales wide, but some areas now have significant wild boar populations. Also its probably a misunderstanding to describe St. Brynach as owning a wolf and symbolising him dominating it through god. St. Brynach was the ultra vegan of his day refusing to use animals in any sense, but wild animals chose to attend to his needs without fore or training, his cart was pulled by a great stag. Great video btw

  • @rorychivers8769
    @rorychivers8769 9 месяцев назад

    If David Attenborough had a time machine, I wonder how he would best choose to use it in an effort to preserve the lives of endangered species, and what implications that would have not only for England, but for humankind in general.

  • @11Survivor
    @11Survivor 2 года назад +2

    Boars are still extremely common in continental Europe.

    • @jointgib
      @jointgib 2 года назад +1

      yeah it was confusing when he said they'd died out

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  Год назад

      This video covers extinct animals in Wales, bears and wolves are still around in Europe too!

    • @jointgib
      @jointgib Год назад

      @@CambrianChronicles yes that does make sense i suppose

  • @ViolentRainbow
    @ViolentRainbow Год назад +1

    Pigs bears and wolves? PUH! I was hoping for dragons!

  • @kevinu.k.7042
    @kevinu.k.7042 Год назад

    A lot of that Irish boar story sounds like metaphor for ridding Ireland of a troublesome warrior.

  • @vikasilverusa3806
    @vikasilverusa3806 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @forthrightgambitia1032
    @forthrightgambitia1032 2 года назад +3

    I wonder if there is any relation to Greek legend of the Calydonian boar hunt, some kind of Indo-European template myth.

    • @CambrianChronicles
      @CambrianChronicles  2 года назад +3

      It’s definitely an interesting concept, the boar appears everywhere in indo-European mythology but the stories surrounding it can be quite diverse

    • @CorinneDunbar-ls3ej
      @CorinneDunbar-ls3ej Год назад

      Yes, I thought the same.

  • @CwL-1984
    @CwL-1984 Год назад +1

    Interesting 🤔

  • @Incidental104
    @Incidental104 Год назад

    The Welsh word "Arth," meaning a bear, has a striking phonetic resemblance to the Armenian equivalent, "Arj." Although I'm uncertain if Armenian shares PIE roots for the word, the intriguing aspect lies in the religious influences that led to the word's removal in many Indo-European branches. It appears to have persisted in only a handful of languages, offering a glimpse into the probable PIE term for a bear. So intriguing, two languages so distant yet in this example they kept a peace of there common ancient vocabulary while most others didn't.

    • @BumboLooks
      @BumboLooks Год назад

      PIE theory is mostly rubbish...

  • @lucasbttger9988
    @lucasbttger9988 2 года назад

    I love your videos. I was a bit sceptical about the bear thing, but all the explanations for the etymology of bear lead only to that answer.

  • @cathleenc6943
    @cathleenc6943 6 месяцев назад

    The story of Gelert sounds almost identical to the story of Saint Guinefort, the main difference that in the latter it was a snake that attacked the baby and not a wolf.

  • @mrwelshmun
    @mrwelshmun Год назад

    There is also a mountain called Cribarth near Craig-y-nos in the Bannau Brycheiniog. CRIB - ARTH = bear ridge

  • @Т1000-м1и
    @Т1000-м1и 3 месяца назад +1

    Dubious little being...

  • @sling4425
    @sling4425 Год назад +2

    nooo he killed his loyal doggie now im sad