Hey Chris, all good points. I think many Windows and Mac users are not afraid to use terminal or CLI in general, what stops them is the sheer amount of things to figure out, learn and try. There is no single (or even few) good place to learn. It amount to a very step learning curve. RUclips recently is getting to be a good place, with decent step by step instructions, that are not too boring and not too long. Maybe you can do a couple of guides, for example "here's not to make a Linux look and feel like Windows 10 and/or macOS", a nice 10-15 minute guide. You can do that better than others.
I think you overstate the difficulty of moving over from e.g. Microsoft applications. I'm not a "techie" but moved to Linux, and found it easy enough. Most of my work involved Word / Excel / Outlook (and the web), like most people, but for pretty much everything I need, Libre Office is 100% fine. Sharing documents with colleagues between Libre Office and Microsoft (which I was worried about) seems never to have been an issues, any more than between one version of Word and another! I also have occasional use of photo and video editing, and the Linux alternatives were easy and quick to pick up, and my transition has been pretty painless overall. Now if I was a graphic designer and as part of a team needed to share and work on InDesign/Photoshop/Illustrator files, then Linux would be out of the question, but I suspect that's a fairly rare case.
main reason a terminal is scary is that unlike a UI, a terminal is blank... meaning if you don't know the commands or any commands (not even "help") then it is 100% useless! a UI, you navigate and read... so you can find what you need, but a terminal is blank.
Windows = Watching movie,playing games ,amazing office softwares,Adobe photoshop . There is nothing like learning . Linux = Programming getting into kernels ,yes you have option of GIMP when it comes to image editing and some consider better then Adobe. Linux has learning curve ask someone working on Linux for years and he may say ,I need to know more . Programming, coding wanting to know how machine really works . Please use Linux ...windows is no comparision . But,you don't like to get on to stack overflow every now and then wants everything as UI go for windows
A few months back I ran Linux on my old laptop as my daily driver for a few weeks. Main reason was that Windows was really starting to slow it down. I loved the customisation and how quick the terminal was. My main issue was that I'm a student and my school requires me to use Office and Adobe. On top of that, the wifi at my school has one of the enterprise logins set up and I couldn't really get that working in Linux. I tried using FreeOffice but ran into some weird compatibility issues with some documents I needed to use. School blocks the online version of Office because of Google Drive so even if I got the wifi working, that wasn't an option. I started just using Windows for school and Linux at home and that worked really well. After a while I ran into some weird dual booting problems that prevented me from even logging into Linux. Reinstalls only fixed it temporarily so I eventually just gave up and went back to Windows completely. 2 weeks ago I bought a new gaming laptop and decided it wasn't worth trying to dual boot again because the negatives outway the positives for me. Windows runs really fast on this machine and I'm able to really make use of everything in the Adobe suite. There's also some fancy RGB lighting that would be difficult to get working in Linux. If I did get it working, my control over it would be a lot more limited. I love Linux, but it really just doesn't work in with my life atm. Still definitely my go to for old machines though. I installed it on another slow laptop for my Mum to use for browsing and such. Windows didn't work at all on that thing, but she's really liked the extra speed that comes with a lighter operating system!
Just for informational purposes, if LibreOffice isn't compatible enough for Microsoft Office documents, sometimes people have more success with WPS Office for Linux, though it is not open source software (I believe that there is a free of charge version though).
Hi Chris, what browser extensions would you recommend me (Chrome user here)? I'm using uBlock Origin, Ghostery, Privacy Badger & HTTPS Everywhere. Btw: I'm using MX Linux :)
Yeah honestly the problem with Linux (and macOS too in this case) is that there are tons of specialized software that often won't be compatible that anything that isn't Windows ant that's why in my opinion both of them should be used in dual booting with Windows.
@@douglasward718 At least in UEFI i've rarely actually found a problem to be honest, even if you have to install either of them you can just wipe the partition anyway.
For your common Microsoft Office user which only uses Word or Excel, LibreOffice is a good alternative, even in Windows. You can open and save Office files with the newest Office file extensions. The cost of LibreOffice, a donation if you want, is much more affordable than the monthly cost of Office 365.
For Linux to be for everyone, it must be made more friendly, easier, and that it covers many user needs, in addition to software, a lot of software, not only to develop and overshadow those that already exist, it is necessary that software that are only for Windows and MacOS reaches Linux... Luckily the Elementary OS team is doing a fantastic job to make their operating system simple, modern, easy to use, and I must say that their application store is of the best there are... But it is not enough. Future generations can be educated to use Linux, but it is difficult when the market is invaded by Microsoft.
I'm thinking about and trying to switch to Linux but there's always stopping blocks. For example there's a Windows program called drivethrurpg sync that let's me sync my roleplaying game PDF library on my PC. It's not available in Linux. Is there a way to download the sync program and run it inside Linux? In short I'm wondering if I can run Windows apps inside Linux somehow?
I think that a really large percentage of users, and especially families, almost everyone who has a computer, really, would benefit from running Linux on a second computer. Giving their old computer new life and providing an additional machine to use can be quite beneficial. Then also the people who would like Linux better on a new computer would have a chance to figure that out. Of course the caveat is that if you install Linux on a second computer, but you never find reason, time, or any motivation whatsoever to fire it up, you might as well leave that broken Windows installation on it.
Hey, so - question for someone who has been considering switching to linux (or at least dual booting and keeping windows around for gaming) when it comes to installing through package managers, you said that it simplifies the whole installation process including shortcuts. But something I actually really dislike about some programs is how they automatically add shortcuts on the desktop or in weird subfolders in the start menu, etc. - or have boxes you have to uncheck if you don't want it to install bundled promotional junk alongside the thing you're actually trying to install. Plus how some don't let you designate what drive you want to install on is annoying for SSD for some things vs. bigger HDD for others. So having more options when installing programs sounds like a positive to me, since I can tell it NOT to clutter things up with weird shortcuts... so does linux just not do those obnoxious things by default?
I actually switched from Linux to Windows 8.1, I tried gaming on Linux for 2 years and I'm pretty sure it's not for me YET pulseaudio and xorg and online games made me really mad at my computer If wayland could become more stable and nvidia would actually use it like a normal human being, it may change my experience but for now, Linux isn't for me. I don't wanna fight with my computer and for grandma I think chrome OS is the better but the fact that updates stop coming after some time makes it a deal breaker but I almost forgot that Windows 10S exists and it's pretty awesome for that use case I guess
Nowonder i love linux....this is the only os am sure of being able to boot up everytime time i turn up my pc....windows has failed me in several occasions.
I grew up with windows, I used windows since 2004 until 2012 that I discovered Ubuntu and I loved it, I wasn't a pro user so it used it to basic stuff, (libre office, Firefox, some old game via wine, basic school/university stuff, gimp, Inkscape for vector drawing ) ( only used windows on friends' computers or on internet cafes) tried other Linux distros but never left Ubuntu on my little netbook (windows 8/8.1 was awful and slow on my netbook) used Ubuntu until 2017 when I buy a MacBook and since then I haven't left macOS, it's so fu**Ing beautiful and fast, change back to use Microsoft office but still used Firefox (until this year... Now I use edge), now I use affinity designer instead of Inkscape, and now I need some apps that I need for my career (chemistry) some of the apps doesn't exist for Mac but I have bootcamp for that (and for games too..) (apps like openlabs CDS client(for reading chromatograms) that's only available for windows and I can't use under Linux but on mac I can use it via bootcamp)... In conclusion I love macOS, I love Linux too, hate windows mainly windows 10, but I need windows sometimes ( but I use windows 8.1 it's more stable than 10 and does not have adware like w10 and is faster for games) (what I love from Linux is that is free and is so stable and so modifiable, and mature distros are more stable than windows that is made by a big enterprise like Microsoft, hope that gaming on Linux flourish) (what I love about macOS is that is so stable too... (Except for Catalina 10.15 but now on Catalina 10.15.6 is so smooth) macOS is beautiful and easy to use and it have most of the apps I need and if it not I use parallels and done but for artistic things I so great and since I was little I wanna a Mac and now I have it( remember those days when I put skins to windows XP to look like macOS... Always wanted to use macOS so I love it and I won't move from it... For now...
It's not that we Windows users are "afraid" of the terminal. I can do some coding in C, Ms Excel VBA and SQL. It is just much more primitive in nature and takes effort to learn and is much less intuitive. Humans learn through visual, and that's why Windows is so successful. Just as how the Controls Panel in Win 7 was great, and so is YaST in openSUSE, some Distros cannot make an intuitive GUI through simplification of a complex area does not mean that it is alright to label users afraid to use the Terminal. It just means that the designers are not capable to design something which is user friendly. The Linux community keeps using the word "afraid", but it is really about convenience. It's the same as driving a car. I would rather use Auto rather than Manual, especially that I live in a city where traffic jam is a real issue.
and that's the first time I wasn't attacked by Linus users :) thank you I agree! I use davici on windows. I'm just a humble guys that Linux is not for me.
Yea, Linux is not for everyone. But it is perfect for ppl like my 78yr-old mother. Here it is: She would hate to work on the OS. Any OS. No, whenever she sees a problem, I get a phone call. But with Linux Mint she has had much fewer problems when compared with the problems she had with Windows 7. So I nowadays I can go there when it suits me and have a nice chat where she tells me about the juicy history of my family over a nice glass of wine, instead of hectic troubleshooting the damn OS. EDIT: typos
I did the same with my grandmas machine. It is running OpenSuse and purrs like a kitty. My grandma only had problems with changing website layouts, but that is OS independent anyway. She actually has way more problems with her iPhone, everyone pressured her to get. >_< EDIT: I started this "experiment" while I was still living near by, but it even works over the distance. After COVID I need to install teamviewer though. :D
Totally agree, my parents are in their 80s and I wish they would just let me install Linux on their PC, instead of _paying money_ to someone who will install some dubious "anti-virus"...
Same with Windows too though. Most people seem pretty clueless about how to setup and maintain their PCs themselves. Usually they just drag it around until it becomes an infested and bloated mess and get a new computer after a couple years, if they can afford it, or wipe the system and do a fresh install, if they're up for it. I'm a Linux and Windows user, computer hobbyist, and IT professional. I preface with this, because I've seen a fair number of Linux users who erroneously fault Windows for their own incompetence in setting it up and maintaining it. That's not to say Windows doesn't have its issues and that there aren't valid concerns with using it though.
After watching Chris, moved to linux. Kinda full-time. Liked Manjaro, had ups and downs, but stuck to it. Chris, you filming at middle of the night. Go get some sleep.
@@ChrisTitusTech Hey man just wanna let you know I enjoy your channel and your story is remarkably the same as mine even located in Dallas haha. Keep it up man. As a linux user since 2005 youve even inspired me in ways.
14:21 Just a couple of days ago I installed Linux Mint in an old laptop and gave to my mom, who had NEVER used a pc before, now she is delighted with it, watching series and movies on it and googling for DIY stuff and cooking recipes. So yeah, for a new/casual user, using linux is no different than using Win or Mac, they just have to learn everything or just use the browser and the file manager.
Linux is not hard to learn, no everyone must use Terminal/Console, Puppy Linux is very good for Old PC years 1990 to 2008, Linux Mint is very good for computer between 2004 to 2020
Great video. I do have but one clarification to make. Denuvo Anti-cheat has been removed from Doom Eternal a couple months ago. It can be played on Linux and currently has a gold rating on protondb. Also, even though technically most Linux applications has no mandatory upfront cost, it shouldn't be considered free, as it does cost the developer's time which isn't a resource they can get back. It's better to encourage others to fund the project by their generous donation or by giving their time to fix any issues or to further the development of the project.
Correction: iMovie = free* Final Cut Pro X = $300 * Included with macOS. macOS, however, currently costs between $400 and $24,000... for the first copy (i.e half of the $800 for the entry-level Mac mini, which is $400 worth of parts and assembly, or ALMOST HALF of the $53,000 for the max'd out Mac Pro, which is $29,000 worth of parts and assembly). macOS upgrades are free... only for the first year... around which time your Mac WILL BREAK... and you will probably pay out-of-pocket for repairs or replacement, regardless of warranty or AppleCare+ (i.e. all defects, all design flaws, and all pre-boxing "accidents" are considered "user-inflicted damage" by Apple; up to 2 "user-inflicted" or "accidental" damage repairs in 3 years, with AppleCare+, only buys a DISCOUNT service fee... in addition to the $100-$500 paid at the time of purchase; AppleCare+ service fees range from $100-$300 and DO NOT INCLUDE REPLACEMENT PARTS). CrApple. Stink different.
@Thistle Flower: After a childhood and a career focused on operating and programming Apple IIs, PC desktops and servers, VAXs, and Sparcs/Ultra Sparcs, perhaps I am a bit moronic. My 2008 Mac mini and my 2015 Core i7 MacBook Air both broke in the first year, each from a hardware assembly defect. They are pristine in every other way. Here's my list of "still works like a charm": 1984 Tandy 1000 1992 CompuSys 486DX 50 MHz 1995 "Boutique" Pentium 133 MHz 2001 IBM ThinkPad T20 P3-M 750 MHz 2002 IBM IntelliStation M-Pro dual-Xeon 2.2 GHz 2003 IBM ThinkPad T30 P4-M 2.2 GHz 2004 Apple iPod 20 GB (requires external power) 2008 Gateway 17" Core 2 Duo laptop 2008 Apple iPod 120 GB (nearly pristine, original battery) 2014 Apple iPhone 5S (nearly pristine, original battery) 2015 Apple iPad Mini 2 (pristine, original battery) 2019 Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 15 Core i7 1.8 GHz Only the Macs broke. Both at the end of the 1-year warranty... almost as if they were supposed to fail AFTER 1 year. Both were refused warranty repair without diagnostics... initially. I made a scene (in an Apple Store full of customers) over the Mac mini. They agreed to diagnose it properly and repaired the defective power-button assembly, under warranty. When my MBA's built-in display failed on the last day of the 1-year warranty and I, having never used it outside of my home (still in pristine condition) and receiving the same lack of "Apple care" as I had with my Mac mini; chose to teach myself a painful, $1,700 lesson. I promised never to buy another Apple device. Fool me twice... shame on me. The MBA still works, but only with an external display. It shares a 2004 20.5" Sony SDM-S204 1600x1200 LCD monitor... with my 2008 Mac mini... which has worked since Apple re-attached the wire which disconnected from the power button. Without diagnosis, they initially blamed that assembly defect on cigarette smoke. The same smoke in which ALL of my "works like a charm" devices had been operating for years... and DECADES... prior. Evidently, a $850 (adj. 2020 USD) Mac mini is a "delicate flower" ...wilts in smoke, according to Apple. On the other hand, an IBM T30 laptop, an IBM workstation, a CompuSys tower, or a Tandy desktop... all $6,000 (adj. 2020 USD)... are FIRETRUCKS. As is a $740 (adj. 2020 USD) Gateway laptop. Do you know why IBM and those other brands can stand behind their products? They built them to LAST. Apple relies on a "different" business model. Wac. It just breaks. WacBook Ail. Light. Paperweight. CrApple. Stink different.
@@arashkmahshidfar7780: OpenCore is still a bootloader... but, a better one than Clover, if one is willing to do the work. If it is not running on Apple hardware, OpenCore macOS is still a Hackintosh. Technically, even a Mac running DosDude1's patcher is an APPLE Hackintosh (i.e. running a version of macOS on "unsupported hardware"). Installing Gentoo or Arch is relatively difficult, but neither require users to "trick" the OS into recognizing their hardware. Ever heard of "Sindows 10" or "Lie-nux" guides? :-)
The main issue with Linux is that when you install it for someone's laptop you're becoming its 1st tech support, for the majority of users Windows is fine
@Marco idk what people are expecting of us when they say "tech savvy" anyway. Computing is far too deep to know of every solution to everything. I'd literally just be doing but the so-called "non-tech savvy" person could do themselves with effort and patience. Google's knowledge is far more vast than I. :P
Tried to do music production on Linux. It was possible, but far from great and actually not even close to what it's like working on W10 or MacOS. Like stepping back 20 years into the past.
@@ClifffSVK I must admit it was about 1,5 years ago, so things are a bit foggy. I remember trying a few DAWs (Tracktion, Ardour etc). They are not the problem. I think I used a debian or ubuntu based distro, with a special kernal, Jack to connect everything and this suite of plugins (which name i fail te remember). I even tried to install and use some Windows VSTs. Some worked, but most of them failed or were to slow to use. And that, I must say, was the biggest problem. Essential requirements for mixing in the box, autotuning and mastering are missing in linux. It's not the DAWs, it's the lack of plugins that run latency free.
Don't forget, that's the current state. It will be interesting to see where we are in 10 years (be it worse, better or the same). (How you interpret worse and better is up to you ofc.)
We'll see but history says 10yrs won't be enough. I started using linux in the late 90s and you'd hear the same things from linux users about how it's the year of linux and how close it is to overtaking Windows. Hear we are 20yrs later in the same boat. Yes, things are better but not what people were thinking.
I've already seen 25 years. Quite a lot has evolved, but only the other companies like game/device developers can decide to start supporting Linux. They still tend to prefer taking away user's freedom so they can squeeze more 💰 out of everything they control. And the masses worship them for doing that.
@@ankh-ef-en-khonsu3274 That's why I said "Let's see where it will be.", I meant that literally, not "it will be a lot better then". There are currently quite a few (promising) projects going on in the Linux world which didn't seem to exist a few decades ago (or were sure to ground from an idea pov). It will be interesting to see what will happen with Wayland, Pipewire (especially this one) and Snap/Flatpak (I think we are going to see a winner here at least in certain areas, e.g. snap for system services, Flatpak for desktop apps). I don't know if any of them will survive and how it will turn out, but they all have potential, but also danger (if handled not well, or interest dies out).
@@JeffSmith03 Well, we are going to see where exactly it's going. I also don't think that Windows 10 (as it is) is going to be around for more than a decade, but will more evolve to what is now Windows 10 S (which basically means that Linux has complete reign (together with the BSDs) over the (small) enthusiast market (and because it's a small market, I doubt Microsoft will care about them, because making an OS just for that is not worth it from a money pov)). Also, they don't really get worshiped (at least not here in Europe) anymore, but criticized for their policies, although they (currently) still put up with it.
@@kuhluhOG thanks, Europe, that explains a lot (why you are still hopeful). The source of the problem is here in the U.S. but other countries have been quicker to adopt, basically to anything more efficient.
Hi Chris, I've been a Windows user since Win95 - yes, I'm an old guy ... Last year I was hacked twice with ransomware. I lost my patience and decided to install the latest version of Mint. I tested it on an old laptop that I have, tested the programs that I will use on what I do most, GIMP and Da Vinci Resolve, and I decided to make the change. Now I have a problem here that I am not sure how to solve. The point is that I have a desktop with a SSD with 120Gb and a HDD with 1Tb. On Windows I installed the system and programs on the SSD and then changed the users folder to the HDD that was merely used with a storage disk. Now I want to do the same on Linux. I was looking for tutorials but the ones I found were not very convincing. I ask if there is a way, simple or complicated, it does not matter, to do it and that does not bring problems to the system and if you can make an explanatory video. Thank you very much in advance. Kind regards, Rui
That's right. Some people simply CANT switch to Linux. Some have massive mental issues from having their brains drained by multi billionaire companies. 🙏🕯 A minute of silence for these lost souls.🕯🙏
I want to switch to linux so bad but mmorpgs support just sucks on linux (well at least like the 3 most popular do work but still) , I don't remember which dev was it that wanted to offer linux support /not block them off but many 3rd party services that he wanted to contract just flat out said "No you can't do that" even if it was none of their business
Absolutely true. For "normal" who don't even care about technology and just use it as a tool, Windows usually is fine. Even with all the spyware and stuff, it's very likely that it won't be an annoyance to them.
I was able to save a PC from the recycle bin by replacing Windows 7 with Linux Mint. That changed the PC from a painful crawl to a fast machine. I use a new PC with Windows 10 for the routine needs and Linux for the enjoyment of learning something new.
If you leave out the command line then linux is for anyone. The command line can be kind of intimidating because theres so much to learn and it never ends.
I love Linux, I have been using it on and off since 2006. I started dual booting around 2011 but because of the games on Windows I never really stayed on it too long until Proton and with the help from your videos I was able to get a lot of the games to work!!! I have been using Linux 80% more than I have been using Windows here lately!! Thanks for the videos, you have been a big help. Btw I have installed it on my Wife's laptop and it works just fine for her to check e-mail or use the web.
Yes, Linux is not for gamers, and it never will be. I recommend it for old people. Every one else should avoid it like covid. Gamers should never! Ever! Have to dual boot just to play games. I would never recommend Linux for anyone, specifically first time pc gamers. It be like telling them how good pc gaming is. Then telling them they can't play any call of duty games, popular pc games, modding, star wars games , multiplayer games, Xbox gamepass. Basically stripping out what makes pc gaming so great just to have them on Linux. I hate to see pc gamers suffering like that. They should stop lying to themselves and go for the superior operating system, windows. If it were up to me, I'd make dual booting or gaming on Linux impossible, so that people could game how it was meant to be.
I actually prefer Thunderbird. I like it better than ANY web mail or mail app. not really sure Chris' issue with it, its mail. all i want is a list of in/out mails and a preview window. the other stuff is unnecessary clutter. Kmail was a close 2nd but I dont run KDE and im not going to add it, I like Thunderbird better.
@@Texas_Radical It's slow, it's cluttered, it's error messages are fairly opaque (or flash in the status bar and are gone). When it works (which is most of the time), it's decent. But compared to a good email program, it's night and day.
I found PopOS distro and decided to give it a shot. So far I'm loving it. I am Microsoft .NET software developer with 15 years of experience and everything I do I do from Windows (20+ years of working on Windows). Needless to say I can't use Microsoft Stack on Linux (excluding VS Code) but other than that, my Linux PC is working fantastic. I have everything I need, and installing new software is either 1 click with mouse or copy/paste 1 line of sudo command, that's it. It does not get any simpler than that. So, Linux is not complicated at all for home users. So far everything works perfect out of the box (drivers, network, removable devices, youtube, simpler games, music, videos, office web variant). I am definitely not Linux power user but I don't really need to be. You can enjoy working in linux without knowing 99.9% of "linuxy things". Also, for Gimp alternative you can try "Photopea", which is exactly like Photoshop only on the web and free to use. And insanely powerful.
Great video! Linux is awesome and so much better than Windows in almost every single way. It's unfortunate that I'm exactly the type of people you mentioned. I've been producing music on FL Studio for 10 years, have specialized hardware and play online games from time to time, so Windows is on my main machine. Linux is on my game server and on my secondary machine though!
before: ehhh? did not expect this :x after: ah yeah familiar software is probably a hurdle that said it should be noted that it is the mainstream software that don't support linux not the other way around; aka its not that linux doesn't support adobe et al, its adobe et al that doesn't support linux p.s. i say adobe et. al. and not microsoft et. al. because the word on the net is that ms office is coming to linux soon™
@gilkesisking yeah true. I dont personally like or use MS products. But if Office comes to linux a lot of people would switch, that's what i am excited for....
@@motoryzen yep i couldn't care less for adobe, ms office and computer games myself but facts are facts, people that can't switch to linux are those that do care about those products
I use both Linux and Windows. If I have to do tech related things Linux is my choice. But for rest of things I use Window$. MS Office 2007 - 2012, Photoshop CSx, and of course typing in Hindi is easier in Windows with inscript input. Setting up hindi input was hassle-free, but there was no inscript. So, that's why I'm stuck in both worlds.
Windows isn't for everyone either, but people forget how much time they needed to learn to work with it. Learning to work with Ubuntu from scratch shouldn't be significantly harder than learning to work with Windows from scratch. (Some distributions put less emphasis on usability, so you can't really generalise for all Linux distributions.) In fact, at the 2007 HCII conference, there was a paper that compared the usability of Ubuntu and Windows XP and found that both were equally usable. There were differences in usability in certain areas, i.e. Windows was more usable in some areas and Ubuntu in other areas. (The comparison was based on an ISO standard for usability, i.e. not simply subjective impressions.)
I installed Linux for my mum, who is not computer literate, and she encountered problems. The main ones were: 1) Libre Office having a different look and feel from MS Office; 2) Libre Office dealing with MS Office files poorly in some cases; 3) she likes traditional looking scroll bars with buttons at the top and bottom (as do I actually) - this is just not an option in most Linux distributions these days; 4) the different look and feel of the file explorer. The distro also needed to be fairly lightweight because it's an older machine. I've finally arrived at a configuration she is happy with - Free Office running on Debian with Raspberry Pi Desktop, but discovering this solution involved a large amount of investigation on my part.
Agree 100% . I have to dual boot to Windows (Linux Mint/Win 7) as I do work related stuff at home and it is all MS Office based (as much as I love working in Libre Office). However, I created an account for my wife and noticed she was able to access it after booting into Linux and was browsing away comfortably in Firefox because that it what she has on her Win 10 laptop. So, there is hope for some of them :)
I have a cousin who has an old PC, Windows 7 struggled with almost everything. Since he only uses the computer for very basic tasks (writing something in Word, watching videos on RUclips, hearing some music) I installed Linux, told him how the things he wanted, work on Linux and he's pretty happy with his "new" computer. He doesn't have to worry for viruses, and he has a solid and supported OS.
I think that the vast majority of occasional computer users, i.e., people who use it for e-mail, to browse the internet, write documents, watch videos, communicate with friends using, e.g., Zoom, could easily get by with Linux, and find it even easier than Windows -- IF they have someone who 1) installs it for them and 2) does the maintenance remotely (e.g., using Chrome Remote Desktop). These two tasks continue in my opinion to be much too difficult for the non-computer-savvy. Heck I use Linux for 27 years and I _still_ run into trouble with the installation at times...
Thank you for the "It's okay to use different OS's for different purposes" perspective. While I appreciate the enthusiasm some Linux YT channels have for the OS, it can sometimes be presented as an all or nothing approach. Mint has been my daily driver for almost three years and I recently put GalliumOS on an old chromebook. Both work quite well but I still need to support two gaming laptops and an AutoCad system at home for the family and I've got systems at work running 95, NT, XP, 7 and 10. Linux is a great OS but its not for every person or every situation.
i used to be an autocad user, more for just play, but check out freecad. im not sure how it will stack up for pro use but i was really impressed with it. also linux gaming on steam with proton is pretty awesome. I only play a few games but it works very well with fallout4 TESV skyrimSE (very modded) and rocket league.
I guess I just don’t get Linux. I’ve been trying to switch to it for a good 15 years, because I love the theory of it, but I’ve found it far too fragile and compromising for professional work (full time editor), and too fiddly and inconsistent for casual consumption. If it would *just* allow me to watch videos on RUclips with reliable hardware decoding, would switch to my headphones every time I plugged them in, and would install updates reliably, every time, I would switch in a heartbeat! But it never does, regardless of the distro, so I’m left confused at the enthusiasm. I guess if I was one of those famous grandmothers who just checks email...
I do like linux, but I still can't switch to it fulltime because I cannot do the kind of music production I can do on Windows. Specifically I am using huge orchestral libraries/VSTs. None of this stuff is supported on Linux. Reaper kinda/sorta/maybe works, but forget Cubase or Pro Tools, or Studio One. When it comes to gamedev I am mostly hampered by the fact that I am just so used to using Photoshop and Maya and as much as I like Blender and the Blender foundation, I just have never really "got on" with the software. I do like Linux for coding, but that use case is comparatively to small compared to all the other things I want to do on my desktop, so it's still Windhose for me at this stage.
The only reason it is not for everyone is because it doesnt come pre-installed with new computers Modern "easy" distros can do everything windows can do. Given a larger user base , every company would make damn sure all their software works on Linux , including things like Photoshop and Video Games Linux can be for everyone , and the only reason its not , is because Microsoft makes sure OEMs and Laptop Manifacturers dont give customers the option of Linux
You're totally right, my "idealist" view says that probably 90-95% of people could use linux but realistically that number will be lower. Probably a lot lower. It would be cool if even 10% of OS market share is linux.
I think the title should be more like "Linux is NOT ready for Everyone" because Linux is extremely versatile and adaptive. Sure you have some compatibility issues at the moment but this could change over time, maybe sooner than we expect currently. But despite that incompatibility I wouldn't say some people can not use any linux distro at all even though I don't think everyone has to use Linux.
Nice video, Chris, balanced and honest. I think the major dividing line is how much time individuals want to invest in learning and tinkering with the things that are a level below working with applications. For many of us, Linux is the best and the most interesting. (My wife has no interest in computers, and for her a Chromebook is the perfect answer...email, browsing and RUclips is all she needs.)
@@twin-gk8of That still doesn't kill my argument. Everyone can use it. What I meant is that there is no need to be tech savvy to use Linux. I believe that in the video there was an argument, that old people can't use it.
I've tried to like Linux, but the Linux community doesn't make it easy. One thing I will never understand is why there's no easy way to find codes to type into the terminal. A new Linux user has absolutely no idea what they need to type into the terminal, and there's a lot of conflicting information online. Linux users are generally helpful, but they always assume that you're an advanced Linux user, so their information more often than not goes over your head. For some reason it never occurs to the average Linux user that there are individuals who want to make the switch, but are immediately turned off the idea of having to learn an entirely different operating system with very few resources that are actually helpful.
@@angelofrago3096 bsd needs some love. If bsd had as much packages as linux, then i would recommend bsd for advanced users since everything it supports is from the base dependencies (please correct me if i spelled it wrong) up to full documentation of the software.
@@arashkmahshidfar7780 yep totally agree... Tried it briefly through VM and what i found that keeps people away from it, is the very small number of available packages... though it is more secure, the number of or the lack thereof of choices is not good.
@Kurt M. I get what you are coming from, Sir/Ma'am. That's why this video was made. What I'm sharing is what i did...which in ways is the best case scenario.
I think the more people come to linux the more developers are willing to make program for it. It's about risking and breaking these ecosystems that hold everyone from a more secure and stable os that can run on a freaking toaster
Hey Chris, great video. Thanks for your insight and bringing out many points I've had for a while now switching from macOS to Linux 100%. For me, I'm comfortable in the terminal, and I consider myself a power user, however I have some limitations such as low vision, and finding open source alternatives to screen readers / magnifiers, etc and even some of the other software I use hasn't been to the degree where I would feel comfortable switching completely away from the Mac. with that said, the options Linux provides is much better than it was even several years ago. When I says "quality of software" I mean human sounding text to speech vs just robotic. The screen magnifiers have gotten to the acceptable usage level I need. though. With that said, I do use Linux in a VM, I also use it in situations where I don't need a full desktop, but can SSH in and just control it from the mac, if I need to. As always, great video, and have a great day.
You're absolutely right. Recently had 2 friends want to try Linux. One is a gamer who isn't as tech savvy, the other is much savvier. The first decided it wasn't for them as they just want all games to easily work and can deal with the Windows shenanigans. The other had a much better time since they were willing to learn a bit and fix a few things.
"Linux isn't for everyone" Sounds a little like a straw-man to me. I don't think anyone is claiming that every computer user should run Linux. But Linux *is* for *everyone, anyone can* run Linux. It's just not the best choice for everyone. Windows is good for those who need one computer that can do everything, Mac is a good alternative for those who can't live without proprietary software, and Linux is best for those who want a custom-tailored experience. No operating system is as flexible and customizable as Linux is, hands down.
Great video! I agree with most of what you cover. The only "issue" I have is with the notion of the "terminal" being something "scary". I do agree it's not necessary to use the command prompt in Windows for very much BUT when doing troubleshooting or when having to correct/reset some settings, more often than not the Windows command prompt is involved, if not required. I mention this because I get the sense some Windows users think Linux isn't viable *because* of use of the terminal. However, when they have to use the command prompt, in Windows, to fix something, I imagine they have no problem with that because they want/need to get their problem fixed. In any event, great video! Thanks for posting!
Request to make video on zsh shell on Ubuntu. Also how to change theme and font. Importance of terminals and shell fastest shell. I know you are busy but its badly required I used Linux for long time and always compare with MAC terminal
Nicely said, I transitioned my mom's computer to Linux some months ago. Her biggest gripe was that the card games were not the same as she knew them :) Learnt the new games in a few weeks though. I myself have been dual booting for 20 years, my job required windows, but used Linux for everything else. A lot of commercial software only exist for Windows, sadly.
at first, when i started out with linux, i wasn't really used to the terminal. after almost 6 months of distrohopping, and 6 months of using arch linux, i felt at home when i started using the terminal again. i could never live without it. everything changed when i started linux and kind of relied from it most of the time, especially when i try using it for coding. i used to be a windows power user ever since i was born, and to be frank, i only come back to windows 10 only for playing most games. but i feel like linux is now mostly home for me, and for those who want to use linux, its of a learning experience rather than just having everything there in front of you out of the box. it is truly not for everyone. but it is for people who want to try new things, and are always curious about alternatives, and being different, being that adventurous person.
And that really is the truth. If you want it all put together with a bow. It's either Windows or OSX, if you like to tinker and get your hands dirty a bit then Linux was made for you. Myself I like a challenge and I've been off and on with Linux. I still remember when you had to manually probe for your peripherals, i'm glad that part of the process has gotten better.
I switched to linux 2 days ago and now im switched back to windows. Still love linux but my games didnt work and my battery disapper in minutes (i have a laptop) nice vid!
I am actually having this exact realization. I have a group of friends that used to get together and play tabletop games and we've been having to do it remotely lately. One of them didn't have a working computer so I loaned him a spare I had sitting around. He's not a linux user so I set it up and installed a bunch of software that I knew he needed and told him to let me know if he had any questions. We're a few weeks in and he doesn't like it all. All of his issues have to do with using unfamiliar software, even if the alternative does what he needs it to do. He just doesn't like that it's different. So yea, if the person isn't willing to learn something different it's just not gonna work.
It is definitely not for everyone, on the desktop at least. I have tried off an on for over 20 years to try and make a Linux Distro my main desktop. I’ve been using computers for 35+ years, used every version of windows since version 3, and I still can’t do it. I love using Linux at the command line. I have a Linux box here running a few servers, and it’s rock solid stable. Once set up, they just work, and I can almost forget that they’re there. But I always eventually have a problem with the desktops, and I really don’t have the time or inclination anymore to spend hours and hours researching and tweaking things just to try and get my computer working again when something inevitably bugs out (usually the X windowing system, which always seems to bug out at the slightest error and refuses to launch the GUI). Though I used to be Linux certified in the early 2000s, but things have changed so much, a lot of my knowledge isn’t’ valid anymore (never mind what I’ve forgotten). I need to do a lot of googling and research to fix problems now, and some of them I haven’t been able to fix. My last experiment with Fedora a few months ago worked great for a month, then all I did was uninstall a package that I had installed, and for some odd reason it b0rked X windows and I couldn’t boot into the GUI. I spent weeks determined to fix it, to no avail. Maybe if I paid for support, I could get someone to help me fix it. But I could also just launch WIndows and be done with it, which is what I did. When Windows screws up badly (which isn’t often anymore), I just roll it back to an earlier snapshot. Done. On with my day. I wish Linux distros had something like this. Maybe there is, and I just don’t know about it? Even if I’m willing to put up with all of the hassle and spend the time and effort researching and tweaking a Linux distro to make it work as best as I can, as an advanced amateur photographer, I still don’t have Photoshop and Lightroom.. and no matter what anyone says, Gimp and Darktable are not good enough replacements for them. There is also scant support for color calibration, last I checked. So, I still mainly use Windows or Mac on desktop (with a Linux desktop VM for playing with) and Linux on the server, and it will likely stay like that.
It's funny how different people have different experiences. If I've understood you correctly, you had a Fedora machine running, and it was working correctly. Then you installed a package, and it still worked correctly. Sometime later, you removed the same package you installed, and X-Window stopped working. That's very odd to me. The only thing I've seen do anything like that is an Nvidia driver installation, but a manual one, and it would be resolved by reverting the xorg.conf file along with the installation (these days that would generally be accomplished by deleting or renaming the file, since there generally isn't an xorg.conf by default anymore). I have much more experience with Debian/Ubuntu and Slackware based systems than Red Hat based ones, however, and I've never used Fedora at all. I've always been able to color calibrate monitors in Linux once I acquired the equipment to do so. Of course, I had to switch from a colorimeter to a spectrophotometer when I made the transition from CRT to LCD displays. I'm sure that Photoshop is better than GIMP for many things, but the few times I've used it, I always felt handicapped by its select tool compared to the one in GIMP. I haven't used Lightroom at all, but I know some features of Darktable that I've used are missing from it, so I'm not that anxious to try it, particularly considering the price. Between Darktable, Raw Therapee, and GIMP I've been able to do the photography things I've needed to do (Edit: I used to use Bibble Pro for raw development before Raw Therapee and Darktable came on the scene; it's still available for Linux as Corel Aftershot Pro, but it is proprietary, paid software, though it is quite good and not that expensive). I'm not saying these things to try and influence you to move to Linux on the desktop. I'm just offering an alternative point of view as someone who has used Linux on the desktop for the last 21 years.
CFWhitman Yes I understand there are plenty of people running Linux out there as their only desktop that are happy with it. It’s just not going to work for what I want. The X problem was odd. I tried to revert the xorg.conf file multiple times, which didn’t seem to work. I consulted the logs, googled the error messages I found, tried the fixes suggested online... I just could not get it to work, and every time I would try to start X at all, I was left with a black screen which wouldn’t respond to ctrl-alt-backspace. I either had to switch to a virtual terminal, log in blind, and shut down the system... or log in via SSH from another machine and kill the process. I eventually gave up on it, as to fix it required more knowledge that I have and more time than I wanted to spend learning to fix it. I had things to do. And with no way to undo what I had done automatically, I just uninstalled it, booted windows, and got done what I needed to do. Darktable can be buggy, On some default installs I’ve had errors with it from not loading/saving files to crashing. When I’ve had it working fine, Darktable does have a lot of features, but it’s almost too much and too technical. It’s not very intuitive to me. Lightroom is more intuitive and way more polished... well worth worth the $9.99/mo I pay for it. Plus I use other photo editing software like Luminar that has no Linux counterpart and as far as I know doesn’t run in WINE. I could run a Windows VM in a Linux host and use that software, but I’m not sure about color management in that case (would have to research it) but then why not just boot into Windows? You can certainly have a color managed workflow on Linux, it’s just not easy to do. I’m not trying to bad mouth Linux or any of the good people working on these applications. Until the problem I had, Fedora on the desktop was very polished and nice and ran wonderfully on my machine, better than windows, it was great for everything web based I used it for. I’ve also run other desktop versions over the years, starting with RedHat 4.2 back in the day, the different Ubuntu-based flavors, Slackware, Mint, SuSE... but no matter what desktop distribution I ran, I would run into something eventually that I had to spend hours fixing. And that still rings true today, in my experience. Linux is running daily in my home, just not on the desktop. Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of using it as my only desktop OS, I just don’t have the time, or, frankly, the inclination to run it as my only one, dealing with all the workarounds and sacrifices I’d have to make to make it work for me.
LOL Still using Windows 7 and will continue to until I purchase a new game that will take advantage of DirectX12 and Ray Tracing. Also, the last security update for Windows 7 was only last month, mind you that you will not receive any notification in Windows, you have to know the KB article number associated with the specific update in order to find and download it directly from the Microsoft Update Catalog website. Hint: Microsoft publicly releases this information directly on their website LOL
I considered switching to Linux but then I realized that I have nothing to gain from it. Everything I do in Windows just works. But I'm willing to learn more about Linux.
@Chris titus Tech - I agree and disagree. "Linux" is for MOST people, but at different percentages of the time and use. Just because you require Windows to play games, doesn't mean that you are required to use it for all your other needs, and quite possibly shouldn't use it (Windows is dangerous on multiple levels). If this wasn't true, you would not use Linux 98% of the time and 2% for your gaming. And if you are a hard core gamer, you can afford to have a system that dual boots/ hot swap drives/ secondary computer for personal stuff. For someone who is new to computers, Linux is also an easier operating system to use and maintain.
100% of the population CAN and Should use Linux, but they will currently divide what percentage in which they use it. As adoption grows, that percentage will also grow.
Thank you, Chris. "Linux is user friendly. It's just choosy about its friends." - ancient adage
So what you're saying is, I SHOULDN'T install Gentoo on my grandma's computer?
You really shouldnt. Gentoo is too basic. Try LFS.
And ofc gentoo is too B L O A T E D
Why not give her Arch ?
@@urmensch12 Arch is bloated. Use Gentoo.
Well that depends... Do you love her or not?
That thumbnail is the best 😂😂🤣😂🤣 especially the cat
It's a meme.
YavorBavor still a nice thumbnail for a video thou even if it’s a meme 😂🤣
However, it is a bit strange that this cat eats a salad. They do eat some grass, to puke.
Hey Chris, all good points. I think many Windows and Mac users are not afraid to use terminal or CLI in general, what stops them is the sheer amount of things to figure out, learn and try. There is no single (or even few) good place to learn. It amount to a very step learning curve.
RUclips recently is getting to be a good place, with decent step by step instructions, that are not too boring and not too long.
Maybe you can do a couple of guides, for example "here's not to make a Linux look and feel like Windows 10 and/or macOS", a nice 10-15 minute guide. You can do that better than others.
My Grandmother uses linux. She's even distroswapped. I've never had her call me for troubleshooting.
Lol, I always have to help my mom cause she refuses to touch anything cause she thinks she'll break something.
I think you overstate the difficulty of moving over from e.g. Microsoft applications. I'm not a "techie" but moved to Linux, and found it easy enough. Most of my work involved Word / Excel / Outlook (and the web), like most people, but for pretty much everything I need, Libre Office is 100% fine. Sharing documents with colleagues between Libre Office and Microsoft (which I was worried about) seems never to have been an issues, any more than between one version of Word and another! I also have occasional use of photo and video editing, and the Linux alternatives were easy and quick to pick up, and my transition has been pretty painless overall. Now if I was a graphic designer and as part of a team needed to share and work on InDesign/Photoshop/Illustrator files, then Linux would be out of the question, but I suspect that's a fairly rare case.
Soo..Linux is for everyone unless you're lazy :)
main reason a terminal is scary is that unlike a UI, a terminal is blank... meaning if you don't know the commands or any commands (not even "help") then it is 100% useless! a UI, you navigate and read... so you can find what you need, but a terminal is blank.
i used linux for probably the past 10 years, it's the only operating system i have ever used and i am very happy with it.
Which screensaver is running behind , can anyone tell me?
Windows = Watching movie,playing games ,amazing office softwares,Adobe photoshop .
There is nothing like learning .
Linux = Programming getting into kernels ,yes you have option of GIMP when it comes to image editing and some consider better then Adobe.
Linux has learning curve ask someone working on Linux for years and he may say ,I need to know more .
Programming, coding wanting to know how machine really works .
Please use Linux ...windows is no comparision .
But,you don't like to get on to stack overflow every now and then wants everything as UI go for windows
A few months back I ran Linux on my old laptop as my daily driver for a few weeks. Main reason was that Windows was really starting to slow it down.
I loved the customisation and how quick the terminal was. My main issue was that I'm a student and my school requires me to use Office and Adobe. On top of that, the wifi at my school has one of the enterprise logins set up and I couldn't really get that working in Linux.
I tried using FreeOffice but ran into some weird compatibility issues with some documents I needed to use. School blocks the online version of Office because of Google Drive so even if I got the wifi working, that wasn't an option.
I started just using Windows for school and Linux at home and that worked really well.
After a while I ran into some weird dual booting problems that prevented me from even logging into Linux. Reinstalls only fixed it temporarily so I eventually just gave up and went back to Windows completely.
2 weeks ago I bought a new gaming laptop and decided it wasn't worth trying to dual boot again because the negatives outway the positives for me.
Windows runs really fast on this machine and I'm able to really make use of everything in the Adobe suite. There's also some fancy RGB lighting that would be difficult to get working in Linux. If I did get it working, my control over it would be a lot more limited.
I love Linux, but it really just doesn't work in with my life atm. Still definitely my go to for old machines though.
I installed it on another slow laptop for my Mum to use for browsing and such. Windows didn't work at all on that thing, but she's really liked the extra speed that comes with a lighter operating system!
Just for informational purposes, if LibreOffice isn't compatible enough for Microsoft Office documents, sometimes people have more success with WPS Office for Linux, though it is not open source software (I believe that there is a free of charge version though).
Hi Chris, what browser extensions would you recommend me (Chrome user here)? I'm using uBlock Origin, Ghostery, Privacy Badger & HTTPS Everywhere. Btw: I'm using MX Linux :)
Yeah honestly the problem with Linux (and macOS too in this case) is that there are tons of specialized software that often won't be compatible that anything that isn't Windows ant that's why in my opinion both of them should be used in dual booting with Windows.
@@douglasward718 At least in UEFI i've rarely actually found a problem to be honest, even if you have to install either of them you can just wipe the partition anyway.
For your common Microsoft Office user which only uses Word or Excel, LibreOffice is a good alternative, even in Windows. You can open and save Office files with the newest Office file extensions. The cost of LibreOffice, a donation if you want, is much more affordable than the monthly cost of Office 365.
For Linux to be for everyone, it must be made more friendly, easier, and that it covers many user needs, in addition to software, a lot of software, not only to develop and overshadow those that already exist, it is necessary that software that are only for Windows and MacOS reaches Linux... Luckily the Elementary OS team is doing a fantastic job to make their operating system simple, modern, easy to use, and I must say that their application store is of the best there are... But it is not enough. Future generations can be educated to use Linux, but it is difficult when the market is invaded by Microsoft.
I'm thinking about and trying to switch to Linux but there's always stopping blocks. For example there's a Windows program called drivethrurpg sync that let's me sync my roleplaying game PDF library on my PC. It's not available in Linux. Is there a way to download the sync program and run it inside Linux? In short I'm wondering if I can run Windows apps inside Linux somehow?
Love the shirt. Not a fan of sudo myself. Reminds me of a certain feature in windows.
I think that a really large percentage of users, and especially families, almost everyone who has a computer, really, would benefit from running Linux on a second computer. Giving their old computer new life and providing an additional machine to use can be quite beneficial. Then also the people who would like Linux better on a new computer would have a chance to figure that out. Of course the caveat is that if you install Linux on a second computer, but you never find reason, time, or any motivation whatsoever to fire it up, you might as well leave that broken Windows installation on it.
Hey, so - question for someone who has been considering switching to linux (or at least dual booting and keeping windows around for gaming) when it comes to installing through package managers, you said that it simplifies the whole installation process including shortcuts. But something I actually really dislike about some programs is how they automatically add shortcuts on the desktop or in weird subfolders in the start menu, etc. - or have boxes you have to uncheck if you don't want it to install bundled promotional junk alongside the thing you're actually trying to install. Plus how some don't let you designate what drive you want to install on is annoying for SSD for some things vs. bigger HDD for others. So having more options when installing programs sounds like a positive to me, since I can tell it NOT to clutter things up with weird shortcuts... so does linux just not do those obnoxious things by default?
I actually switched from Linux to Windows 8.1, I tried gaming on Linux for 2 years and I'm pretty sure it's not for me YET
pulseaudio and xorg and online games made me really mad at my computer
If wayland could become more stable and nvidia would actually use it like a normal human being, it may change my experience but for now, Linux isn't for me. I don't wanna fight with my computer
and for grandma I think chrome OS is the better but the fact that updates stop coming after some time makes it a deal breaker
but I almost forgot that Windows 10S exists and it's pretty awesome for that use case I guess
As long as Windows is removed from the market... Windows is for no one,
What did you end up doing about editing pdfs? Or did you just stop doing things that require editing pdfs?
Almost 200k!
Nowonder i love linux....this is the only os am sure of being able to boot up everytime time i turn up my pc....windows has failed me in several occasions.
I grew up with windows, I used windows since 2004 until 2012 that I discovered Ubuntu and I loved it, I wasn't a pro user so it used it to basic stuff, (libre office, Firefox, some old game via wine, basic school/university stuff, gimp, Inkscape for vector drawing ) ( only used windows on friends' computers or on internet cafes) tried other Linux distros but never left Ubuntu on my little netbook (windows 8/8.1 was awful and slow on my netbook) used Ubuntu until 2017 when I buy a MacBook and since then I haven't left macOS, it's so fu**Ing beautiful and fast, change back to use Microsoft office but still used Firefox (until this year... Now I use edge), now I use affinity designer instead of Inkscape, and now I need some apps that I need for my career (chemistry) some of the apps doesn't exist for Mac but I have bootcamp for that (and for games too..) (apps like openlabs CDS client(for reading chromatograms) that's only available for windows and I can't use under Linux but on mac I can use it via bootcamp)... In conclusion I love macOS, I love Linux too, hate windows mainly windows 10, but I need windows sometimes ( but I use windows 8.1 it's more stable than 10 and does not have adware like w10 and is faster for games) (what I love from Linux is that is free and is so stable and so modifiable, and mature distros are more stable than windows that is made by a big enterprise like Microsoft, hope that gaming on Linux flourish) (what I love about macOS is that is so stable too... (Except for Catalina 10.15 but now on Catalina 10.15.6 is so smooth) macOS is beautiful and easy to use and it have most of the apps I need and if it not I use parallels and done but for artistic things I so great and since I was little I wanna a Mac and now I have it( remember those days when I put skins to windows XP to look like macOS... Always wanted to use macOS so I love it and I won't move from it... For now...
It's not that we Windows users are "afraid" of the terminal. I can do some coding in C, Ms Excel VBA and SQL. It is just much more primitive in nature and takes effort to learn and is much less intuitive. Humans learn through visual, and that's why Windows is so successful. Just as how the Controls Panel in Win 7 was great, and so is YaST in openSUSE, some Distros cannot make an intuitive GUI through simplification of a complex area does not mean that it is alright to label users afraid to use the Terminal. It just means that the designers are not capable to design something which is user friendly.
The Linux community keeps using the word "afraid", but it is really about convenience. It's the same as driving a car. I would rather use Auto rather than Manual, especially that I live in a city where traffic jam is a real issue.
6 months on Linux Mint and Opensuse tumbleweed & love both!!! With a little time it learns very well!! Linux forever!!!
which high end graphics cards runs optimally in linux ?
and that's the first time I wasn't attacked by Linus users :) thank you I agree! I use davici on windows. I'm just a humble guys that Linux is not for me.
Yea, Linux is not for everyone. But it is perfect for ppl like my 78yr-old mother. Here it is: She would hate to work on the OS. Any OS. No, whenever she sees a problem, I get a phone call. But with Linux Mint she has had much fewer problems when compared with the problems she had with Windows 7. So I nowadays I can go there when it suits me and have a nice chat where she tells me about the juicy history of my family over a nice glass of wine, instead of hectic troubleshooting the damn OS.
EDIT: typos
I did the same with my grandmas machine. It is running OpenSuse and purrs like a kitty. My grandma only had problems with changing website layouts, but that is OS independent anyway. She actually has way more problems with her iPhone, everyone pressured her to get. >_<
EDIT: I started this "experiment" while I was still living near by, but it even works over the distance. After COVID I need to install teamviewer though. :D
Totally agree, my parents are in their 80s and I wish they would just let me install Linux on their PC, instead of _paying money_ to someone who will install some dubious "anti-virus"...
Goddamn thats good
It's trash
It's not for everyone,
But surely it is for me...
Anyone can use Linux if you become their IT department.
especially if you're related to them
Thank God nothing ever goes wrong with Windows
Same with Windows too though. Most people seem pretty clueless about how to setup and maintain their PCs themselves. Usually they just drag it around until it becomes an infested and bloated mess and get a new computer after a couple years, if they can afford it, or wipe the system and do a fresh install, if they're up for it.
I'm a Linux and Windows user, computer hobbyist, and IT professional. I preface with this, because I've seen a fair number of Linux users who erroneously fault Windows for their own incompetence in setting it up and maintaining it. That's not to say Windows doesn't have its issues and that there aren't valid concerns with using it though.
Lol.
After watching Chris, moved to linux. Kinda full-time. Liked Manjaro, had ups and downs, but stuck to it.
Chris, you filming at middle of the night. Go get some sleep.
I use Manjaro KDE btw.
When inspiration hits... you just gotta hit record. I actually was in bed... had the idea, popped up, tossed a shirt on, and hit record.
@GreyGeek me thinking of same.. lol
@@ChrisTitusTech haha nice
@@ChrisTitusTech Hey man just wanna let you know I enjoy your channel and your story is remarkably the same as mine even located in Dallas haha. Keep it up man. As a linux user since 2005 youve even inspired me in ways.
14:21 Just a couple of days ago I installed Linux Mint in an old laptop and gave to my mom, who had NEVER used a pc before, now she is delighted with it, watching series and movies on it and googling for DIY stuff and cooking recipes. So yeah, for a new/casual user, using linux is no different than using Win or Mac, they just have to learn everything or just use the browser and the file manager.
great idea to bring her to linux
I did the same with my parents, they notice it but like it more than windows, as the computer is pretty old, now is more usable with Mint Xfce
The non savvy just need a good package manager, and it is perfect
Linux is not hard to learn, no everyone must use Terminal/Console, Puppy Linux is very good for Old PC years 1990 to 2008, Linux Mint is very good for computer between 2004 to 2020
(Does history search, finds "Hot to Trot Male Strippers" in history. Closes history forever.)
Great video. I do have but one clarification to make. Denuvo Anti-cheat has been removed from Doom Eternal a couple months ago. It can be played on Linux and currently has a gold rating on protondb.
Also, even though technically most Linux applications has no mandatory upfront cost, it shouldn't be considered free, as it does cost the developer's time which isn't a resource they can get back. It's better to encourage others to fund the project by their generous donation or by giving their time to fix any issues or to further the development of the project.
That's great to hear
Free as in freedom, not as in free beer
But didnt they also say that they plan to put Denovu Anti Cheat back in the future,?
Just ask a question, why Half-Life: Alyx is not linux native anymore in steam?
@@urmensch12 Not to my knowledge. The last news I heard about Doom Eternal was in late May.
Correction:
iMovie = free*
Final Cut Pro X = $300
* Included with macOS. macOS, however, currently costs between $400 and $24,000... for the first copy (i.e half of the $800 for the entry-level Mac mini, which is $400 worth of parts and assembly, or ALMOST HALF of the $53,000 for the max'd out Mac Pro, which is $29,000 worth of parts and assembly). macOS upgrades are free... only for the first year... around which time your Mac WILL BREAK... and you will probably pay out-of-pocket for repairs or replacement, regardless of warranty or AppleCare+ (i.e. all defects, all design flaws, and all pre-boxing "accidents" are considered "user-inflicted damage" by Apple; up to 2 "user-inflicted" or "accidental" damage repairs in 3 years, with AppleCare+, only buys a DISCOUNT service fee... in addition to the $100-$500 paid at the time of purchase; AppleCare+ service fees range from $100-$300 and DO NOT INCLUDE REPLACEMENT PARTS).
CrApple. Stink different.
I have a Mac Mini for 5 years. It didn't break even if I always upgrade the OS.
$400?
Imagine using iMovie when DaVinci Resolve exists...
@Thistle Flower: After a childhood and a career focused on operating and programming Apple IIs, PC desktops and servers, VAXs, and Sparcs/Ultra Sparcs, perhaps I am a bit moronic. My 2008 Mac mini and my 2015 Core i7 MacBook Air both broke in the first year, each from a hardware assembly defect. They are pristine in every other way.
Here's my list of "still works like a charm":
1984 Tandy 1000
1992 CompuSys 486DX 50 MHz
1995 "Boutique" Pentium 133 MHz
2001 IBM ThinkPad T20 P3-M 750 MHz
2002 IBM IntelliStation M-Pro dual-Xeon 2.2 GHz
2003 IBM ThinkPad T30 P4-M 2.2 GHz
2004 Apple iPod 20 GB (requires external power)
2008 Gateway 17" Core 2 Duo laptop
2008 Apple iPod 120 GB (nearly pristine, original battery)
2014 Apple iPhone 5S (nearly pristine, original battery)
2015 Apple iPad Mini 2 (pristine, original battery)
2019 Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 15 Core i7 1.8 GHz
Only the Macs broke. Both at the end of the 1-year warranty... almost as if they were supposed to fail AFTER 1 year. Both were refused warranty repair without diagnostics... initially. I made a scene (in an Apple Store full of customers) over the Mac mini. They agreed to diagnose it properly and repaired the defective power-button assembly, under warranty. When my MBA's built-in display failed on the last day of the 1-year warranty and I, having never used it outside of my home (still in pristine condition) and receiving the same lack of "Apple care" as I had with my Mac mini; chose to teach myself a painful, $1,700 lesson. I promised never to buy another Apple device.
Fool me twice... shame on me.
The MBA still works, but only with an external display. It shares a 2004 20.5" Sony SDM-S204 1600x1200 LCD monitor... with my 2008 Mac mini... which has worked since Apple re-attached the wire which disconnected from the power button. Without diagnosis, they initially blamed that assembly defect on cigarette smoke. The same smoke in which ALL of my "works like a charm" devices had been operating for years... and DECADES... prior.
Evidently, a $850 (adj. 2020 USD) Mac mini is a "delicate flower" ...wilts in smoke, according to Apple. On the other hand, an IBM T30 laptop, an IBM workstation, a CompuSys tower, or a Tandy desktop... all $6,000 (adj. 2020 USD)... are FIRETRUCKS. As is a $740 (adj. 2020 USD) Gateway laptop.
Do you know why IBM and those other brands can stand behind their products? They built them to LAST. Apple relies on a "different" business model.
Wac. It just breaks.
WacBook Ail. Light. Paperweight.
CrApple. Stink different.
@@arashkmahshidfar7780: OpenCore is still a bootloader... but, a better one than Clover, if one is willing to do the work. If it is not running on Apple hardware, OpenCore macOS is still a Hackintosh. Technically, even a Mac running DosDude1's patcher is an APPLE Hackintosh (i.e. running a version of macOS on "unsupported hardware"). Installing Gentoo or Arch is relatively difficult, but neither require users to "trick" the OS into recognizing their hardware.
Ever heard of "Sindows 10" or "Lie-nux" guides? :-)
The main issue with Linux is that when you install it for someone's laptop you're becoming its 1st tech support, for the majority of users Windows is fine
That assumes the thing needs tech support. Can't have problems if you never have to update : D
If the person uses nothing but the web browser, installing Linux could be the best thing to do.
@Marco idk what people are expecting of us when they say "tech savvy" anyway.
Computing is far too deep to know of every solution to everything.
I'd literally just be doing but the so-called "non-tech savvy" person could do themselves with effort and patience.
Google's knowledge is far more vast than I.
:P
Tried to do music production on Linux. It was possible, but far from great and actually not even close to what it's like working on W10 or MacOS. Like stepping back 20 years into the past.
What software did you try?
@@ClifffSVK I must admit it was about 1,5 years ago, so things are a bit foggy. I remember trying a few DAWs (Tracktion, Ardour etc). They are not the problem. I think I used a debian or ubuntu based distro, with a special kernal, Jack to connect everything and this suite of plugins (which name i fail te remember). I even tried to install and use some Windows VSTs. Some worked, but most of them failed or were to slow to use. And that, I must say, was the biggest problem. Essential requirements for mixing in the box, autotuning and mastering are missing in linux. It's not the DAWs, it's the lack of plugins that run latency free.
Don't forget, that's the current state.
It will be interesting to see where we are in 10 years (be it worse, better or the same).
(How you interpret worse and better is up to you ofc.)
We'll see but history says 10yrs won't be enough. I started using linux in the late 90s and you'd hear the same things from linux users about how it's the year of linux and how close it is to overtaking Windows. Hear we are 20yrs later in the same boat. Yes, things are better but not what people were thinking.
I've already seen 25 years. Quite a lot has evolved, but only the other companies like game/device developers can decide to start supporting Linux. They still tend to prefer taking away user's freedom so they can squeeze more 💰 out of everything they control. And the masses worship them for doing that.
@@ankh-ef-en-khonsu3274 That's why I said "Let's see where it will be.", I meant that literally, not "it will be a lot better then".
There are currently quite a few (promising) projects going on in the Linux world which didn't seem to exist a few decades ago (or were sure to ground from an idea pov).
It will be interesting to see what will happen with Wayland, Pipewire (especially this one) and Snap/Flatpak (I think we are going to see a winner here at least in certain areas, e.g. snap for system services, Flatpak for desktop apps). I don't know if any of them will survive and how it will turn out, but they all have potential, but also danger (if handled not well, or interest dies out).
@@JeffSmith03 Well, we are going to see where exactly it's going. I also don't think that Windows 10 (as it is) is going to be around for more than a decade, but will more evolve to what is now Windows 10 S (which basically means that Linux has complete reign (together with the BSDs) over the (small) enthusiast market (and because it's a small market, I doubt Microsoft will care about them, because making an OS just for that is not worth it from a money pov)).
Also, they don't really get worshiped (at least not here in Europe) anymore, but criticized for their policies, although they (currently) still put up with it.
@@kuhluhOG thanks, Europe, that explains a lot (why you are still hopeful). The source of the problem is here in the U.S. but other countries have been quicker to adopt, basically to anything more efficient.
sudo apt remove sudo has me laughing so hard lol
Hi Chris,
I've been a Windows user since Win95 - yes, I'm an old guy ...
Last year I was hacked twice with ransomware. I lost my patience and decided to install the latest version of Mint. I tested it on an old laptop that I have, tested the programs that I will use on what I do most, GIMP and Da Vinci Resolve, and I decided to make the change.
Now I have a problem here that I am not sure how to solve. The point is that I have a desktop with a SSD with 120Gb and a HDD with 1Tb. On Windows I installed the system and programs on the SSD and then changed the users folder to the HDD that was merely used with a storage disk. Now I want to do the same on Linux. I was looking for tutorials but the ones I found were not very convincing. I ask if there is a way, simple or complicated, it does not matter, to do it and that does not bring problems to the system and if you can make an explanatory video.
Thank you very much in advance.
Kind regards,
Rui
That's right. Some people simply CANT switch to Linux. Some have massive mental issues from having their brains drained by multi billionaire companies. 🙏🕯 A minute of silence for these lost souls.🕯🙏
You HAVE to have Adobe? Ah, so before this company came out with this product your life was a meaningfull mess, right? 😄
I want to switch to linux so bad but mmorpgs support just sucks on linux (well at least like the 3 most popular do work but still) , I don't remember which dev was it that wanted to offer linux support /not block them off but many 3rd party services that he wanted to contract just flat out said "No you can't do that" even if it was none of their business
Absolutely true. For "normal" who don't even care about technology and just use it as a tool, Windows usually is fine. Even with all the spyware and stuff, it's very likely that it won't be an annoyance to them.
I was able to save a PC from the recycle bin by replacing Windows 7 with Linux Mint. That changed the PC from a painful crawl to a fast machine. I use a new PC with Windows 10 for the routine needs and Linux for the enjoyment of learning something new.
Please do a Linux from scratch series :)
If you leave out the command line then linux is for anyone. The command line can be kind of intimidating because theres so much to learn and it never ends.
I love Linux, I have been using it on and off since 2006. I started dual booting around 2011 but because of the games on Windows I never really stayed on it too long until Proton and with the help from your videos I was able to get a lot of the games to work!!! I have been using Linux 80% more than I have been using Windows here lately!! Thanks for the videos, you have been a big help. Btw I have installed it on my Wife's laptop and it works just fine for her to check e-mail or use the web.
Yes, Linux is not for gamers, and it never will be. I recommend it for old people. Every one else should avoid it like covid. Gamers should never! Ever! Have to dual boot just to play games. I would never recommend Linux for anyone, specifically first time pc gamers. It be like telling them how good pc gaming is. Then telling them they can't play any call of duty games, popular pc games, modding, star wars games , multiplayer games, Xbox gamepass. Basically stripping out what makes pc gaming so great just to have them on Linux. I hate to see pc gamers suffering like that. They should stop lying to themselves and go for the superior operating system, windows. If it were up to me, I'd make dual booting or gaming on Linux impossible, so that people could game how it was meant to be.
as far as mail goes, I went back to the fairly ancient feeling thunderbird... you know, the one that reminds you of the days of Netscape.
I actually prefer Thunderbird. I like it better than ANY web mail or mail app. not really sure Chris' issue with it, its mail. all i want is a list of in/out mails and a preview window. the other stuff is unnecessary clutter. Kmail was a close 2nd but I dont run KDE and im not going to add it, I like Thunderbird better.
@@Texas_Radical evo (Evolution) was decent as well, it's Gnomey...
@@Texas_Radical It's slow, it's cluttered, it's error messages are fairly opaque (or flash in the status bar and are gone). When it works (which is most of the time), it's decent. But compared to a good email program, it's night and day.
I found PopOS distro and decided to give it a shot. So far I'm loving it. I am Microsoft .NET software developer with 15 years of experience and everything I do I do from Windows (20+ years of working on Windows). Needless to say I can't use Microsoft Stack on Linux (excluding VS Code) but other than that, my Linux PC is working fantastic. I have everything I need, and installing new software is either 1 click with mouse or copy/paste 1 line of sudo command, that's it. It does not get any simpler than that. So, Linux is not complicated at all for home users. So far everything works perfect out of the box (drivers, network, removable devices, youtube, simpler games, music, videos, office web variant). I am definitely not Linux power user but I don't really need to be. You can enjoy working in linux without knowing 99.9% of "linuxy things".
Also, for Gimp alternative you can try "Photopea", which is exactly like Photoshop only on the web and free to use. And insanely powerful.
Great video! Linux is awesome and so much better than Windows in almost every single way. It's unfortunate that I'm exactly the type of people you mentioned. I've been producing music on FL Studio for 10 years, have specialized hardware and play online games from time to time, so Windows is on my main machine. Linux is on my game server and on my secondary machine though!
it seems that you are strugglin to have idea for videos 1 if your every 3 video is about reasons to leave or not leave windows or mac
before: ehhh? did not expect this :x
after: ah yeah familiar software is probably a hurdle
that said it should be noted that it is the mainstream software that don't support linux not the other way around; aka its not that linux doesn't support adobe et al, its adobe et al that doesn't support linux
p.s. i say adobe et. al. and not microsoft et. al. because the word on the net is that ms office is coming to linux soon™
Oh really? Are there rumors of MS Office coming to Linux? Can I have a link of that please? It would be great to see MS Office in Linux natively! :)
Try Gimp and Kdenlive for photo and video editing, WPS Office for MS Office documents, Chromium for web browsing and KDE as your DE
@gilkesisking yeah true. I dont personally like or use MS products. But if Office comes to linux a lot of people would switch, that's what i am excited for....
@@fred-youtube the point is people using software x for 20+ years don't a reason to uproot
personally i use onlyoffice, kdenlive gimp and inkscape
@@motoryzen yep i couldn't care less for adobe, ms office and computer games myself
but facts are facts, people that can't switch to linux are those that do care about those products
I use both Linux and Windows. If I have to do tech related things Linux is my choice.
But for rest of things I use Window$. MS Office 2007 - 2012, Photoshop CSx, and of course typing in Hindi is easier in Windows with inscript input.
Setting up hindi input was hassle-free, but there was no inscript.
So, that's why I'm stuck in both worlds.
Windows isn't for everyone either, but people forget how much time they needed to learn to work with it. Learning to work with Ubuntu from scratch shouldn't be significantly harder than learning to work with Windows from scratch. (Some distributions put less emphasis on usability, so you can't really generalise for all Linux distributions.)
In fact, at the 2007 HCII conference, there was a paper that compared the usability of Ubuntu and Windows XP and found that both were equally usable. There were differences in usability in certain areas, i.e. Windows was more usable in some areas and Ubuntu in other areas. (The comparison was based on an ISO standard for usability, i.e. not simply subjective impressions.)
I installed Linux for my mum, who is not computer literate, and she encountered problems. The main ones were: 1) Libre Office having a different look and feel from MS Office; 2) Libre Office dealing with MS Office files poorly in some cases; 3) she likes traditional looking scroll bars with buttons at the top and bottom (as do I actually) - this is just not an option in most Linux distributions these days; 4) the different look and feel of the file explorer. The distro also needed to be fairly lightweight because it's an older machine. I've finally arrived at a configuration she is happy with - Free Office running on Debian with Raspberry Pi Desktop, but discovering this solution involved a large amount of investigation on my part.
Agree 100% . I have to dual boot to Windows (Linux Mint/Win 7) as I do work related stuff at home and it is all MS Office based (as much as I love working in Libre Office).
However, I created an account for my wife and noticed she was able to access it after booting into Linux and was browsing away comfortably in Firefox because that it what she has on her Win 10 laptop. So, there is hope for some of them :)
I have a cousin who has an old PC, Windows 7 struggled with almost everything. Since he only uses the computer for very basic tasks (writing something in Word, watching videos on RUclips, hearing some music) I installed Linux, told him how the things he wanted, work on Linux and he's pretty happy with his "new" computer. He doesn't have to worry for viruses, and he has a solid and supported OS.
I think that the vast majority of occasional computer users, i.e., people who use it for e-mail, to browse the internet, write documents, watch videos, communicate with friends using, e.g., Zoom, could easily get by with Linux, and find it even easier than Windows -- IF they have someone who 1) installs it for them and 2) does the maintenance remotely (e.g., using Chrome Remote Desktop). These two tasks continue in my opinion to be much too difficult for the non-computer-savvy. Heck I use Linux for 27 years and I _still_ run into trouble with the installation at times...
Thank you for the "It's okay to use different OS's for different purposes" perspective. While I appreciate the enthusiasm some Linux YT channels have for the OS, it can sometimes be presented as an all or nothing approach. Mint has been my daily driver for almost three years and I recently put GalliumOS on an old chromebook. Both work quite well but I still need to support two gaming laptops and an AutoCad system at home for the family and I've got systems at work running 95, NT, XP, 7 and 10. Linux is a great OS but its not for every person or every situation.
i used to be an autocad user, more for just play, but check out freecad. im not sure how it will stack up for pro use but i was really impressed with it. also linux gaming on steam with proton is pretty awesome. I only play a few games but it works very well with fallout4 TESV skyrimSE (very modded) and rocket league.
I guess I just don’t get Linux. I’ve been trying to switch to it for a good 15 years, because I love the theory of it, but I’ve found it far too fragile and compromising for professional work (full time editor), and too fiddly and inconsistent for casual consumption. If it would *just* allow me to watch videos on RUclips with reliable hardware decoding, would switch to my headphones every time I plugged them in, and would install updates reliably, every time, I would switch in a heartbeat! But it never does, regardless of the distro, so I’m left confused at the enthusiasm. I guess if I was one of those famous grandmothers who just checks email...
I do like linux, but I still can't switch to it fulltime because I cannot do the kind of music production I can do on Windows. Specifically I am using huge orchestral libraries/VSTs. None of this stuff is supported on Linux. Reaper kinda/sorta/maybe works, but forget Cubase or Pro Tools, or Studio One. When it comes to gamedev I am mostly hampered by the fact that I am just so used to using Photoshop and Maya and as much as I like Blender and the Blender foundation, I just have never really "got on" with the software. I do like Linux for coding, but that use case is comparatively to small compared to all the other things I want to do on my desktop, so it's still Windhose for me at this stage.
The only reason it is not for everyone is because it doesnt come pre-installed with new computers
Modern "easy" distros can do everything windows can do. Given a larger user base , every company would make damn sure all their software works on Linux , including things like Photoshop and Video Games
Linux can be for everyone , and the only reason its not , is because Microsoft makes sure OEMs and Laptop Manifacturers dont give customers the option of Linux
You're totally right, my "idealist" view says that probably 90-95% of people could use linux but realistically that number will be lower. Probably a lot lower. It would be cool if even 10% of OS market share is linux.
I think the title should be more like "Linux is NOT ready for Everyone" because Linux is extremely versatile and adaptive. Sure you have some compatibility issues at the moment but this could change over time, maybe sooner than we expect currently. But despite that incompatibility I wouldn't say some people can not use any linux distro at all even though I don't think everyone has to use Linux.
Nice video, Chris, balanced and honest. I think the major dividing line is how much time individuals want to invest in learning and tinkering with the things that are a level below working with applications. For many of us, Linux is the best and the most interesting. (My wife has no interest in computers, and for her a Chromebook is the perfect answer...email, browsing and RUclips is all she needs.)
Linux is not for everybody, but it's for me. Loved how Mint give a new life to my old ThinkPad running in celeron and 2gb ram. Works like magic!
I actually do think everyone can use Linux.
Not gamers. In order for me to switch to Linux it has to be *better* at gaming than windows. Not just competent.
@@twin-gk8of That still doesn't kill my argument. Everyone can use it. What I meant is that there is no need to be tech savvy to use Linux. I believe that in the video there was an argument, that old people can't use it.
My title would be: "Linix is NOT for Everyone. DON'T BE Everyone"... 😀
I've tried to like Linux, but the Linux community doesn't make it easy. One thing I will never understand is why there's no easy way to find codes to type into the terminal. A new Linux user has absolutely no idea what they need to type into the terminal, and there's a lot of conflicting information online. Linux users are generally helpful, but they always assume that you're an advanced Linux user, so their information more often than not goes over your head. For some reason it never occurs to the average Linux user that there are individuals who want to make the switch, but are immediately turned off the idea of having to learn an entirely different operating system with very few resources that are actually helpful.
Best thing to do is try all three, so you'll get the gist on what the OSs are about...
That's what i did and found what's best for me.
And that is? (just curious)
@@AbhishekBM BSD...
Lol Just Kiddin'...
I found Linux fits me best, sir/ma'am. I use Linux Mint Debian Edition to be exact.
@@angelofrago3096 bsd needs some love. If bsd had as much packages as linux, then i would recommend bsd for advanced users since everything it supports is from the base dependencies (please correct me if i spelled it wrong) up to full documentation of the software.
@@arashkmahshidfar7780 yep totally agree... Tried it briefly through VM and what i found that keeps people away from it, is the very small number of available packages... though it is more secure, the number of or the lack thereof of choices is not good.
@Kurt M. I get what you are coming from, Sir/Ma'am. That's why this video was made.
What I'm sharing is what i did...which in ways is the best case scenario.
To update about DOOMEternal, it works fine on Linux again, just need a few launch options is all
Petition for a new community which only makes software for non-windows OSs to be made. C# sucks.
I'm a Linux user but the lack of support in music production from Vst's like Kontakt and others forcing us to use mac or Window$
I think the more people come to linux the more developers are willing to make program for it. It's about risking and breaking these ecosystems that hold everyone from a more secure and stable os that can run on a freaking toaster
Hey Chris, great video. Thanks for your insight and bringing out many points I've had for a while now switching from macOS to Linux 100%. For me, I'm comfortable in the terminal, and I consider myself a power user, however I have some limitations such as low vision, and finding open source alternatives to screen readers / magnifiers, etc and even some of the other software I use hasn't been to the degree where I would feel comfortable switching completely away from the Mac. with that said, the options Linux provides is much better than it was even several years ago.
When I says "quality of software" I mean human sounding text to speech vs just robotic. The screen magnifiers have gotten to the acceptable usage level I need. though. With that said, I do use Linux in a VM, I also use it in situations where I don't need a full desktop, but can SSH in and just control it from the mac, if I need to. As always, great video, and have a great day.
You're absolutely right. Recently had 2 friends want to try Linux. One is a gamer who isn't as tech savvy, the other is much savvier. The first decided it wasn't for them as they just want all games to easily work and can deal with the Windows shenanigans. The other had a much better time since they were willing to learn a bit and fix a few things.
"Linux isn't for everyone" Sounds a little like a straw-man to me.
I don't think anyone is claiming that every computer user should run Linux.
But Linux *is* for *everyone, anyone can* run Linux.
It's just not the best choice for everyone.
Windows is good for those who need one computer that can do everything,
Mac is a good alternative for those who can't live without proprietary software,
and Linux is best for those who want a custom-tailored experience.
No operating system is as flexible and customizable as Linux is, hands down.
@Kurt M. I'm sure some people do have that mindset. But I doubt it's the majority of Linux users.
Great video! I agree with most of what you cover. The only "issue" I have is with the notion of the "terminal" being something "scary". I do agree it's not necessary to use the command prompt in Windows for very much BUT when doing troubleshooting or when having to correct/reset some settings, more often than not the Windows command prompt is involved, if not required. I mention this because I get the sense some Windows users think Linux isn't viable *because* of use of the terminal. However, when they have to use the command prompt, in Windows, to fix something, I imagine they have no problem with that because they want/need to get their problem fixed.
In any event, great video! Thanks for posting!
Request to make video on zsh shell on Ubuntu. Also how to change theme and font.
Importance of terminals and shell fastest shell. I know you are busy but its badly required I used Linux for long time and always compare with MAC terminal
sorry I asked question without visiting your podcast I found it. Thanks for contribution
Will you try Olive video editor ?
Nicely said, I transitioned my mom's computer to Linux some months ago. Her biggest gripe was that the card games were not the same as she knew them :) Learnt the new games in a few weeks though. I myself have been dual booting for 20 years, my job required windows, but used Linux for everything else. A lot of commercial software only exist for Windows, sadly.
at first, when i started out with linux, i wasn't really used to the terminal. after almost 6 months of distrohopping, and 6 months of using arch linux, i felt at home when i started using the terminal again. i could never live without it. everything changed when i started linux and kind of relied from it most of the time, especially when i try using it for coding. i used to be a windows power user ever since i was born, and to be frank, i only come back to windows 10 only for playing most games. but i feel like linux is now mostly home for me, and for those who want to use linux, its of a learning experience rather than just having everything there in front of you out of the box. it is truly not for everyone. but it is for people who want to try new things, and are always curious about alternatives, and being different, being that adventurous person.
And that really is the truth. If you want it all put together with a bow. It's either Windows or OSX, if you like to tinker and get your hands dirty a bit then Linux was made for you. Myself I like a challenge and I've been off and on with Linux. I still remember when you had to manually probe for your peripherals, i'm glad that part of the process has gotten better.
I switched to linux 2 days ago and now im switched back to windows. Still love linux but my games didnt work and my battery disapper in minutes (i have a laptop) nice vid!
You complained about Doom Eternal denuvo... didn't it get removed?
What do you use as a GRUB theme?
All of my stuff depends on Windows programs (mainly Adobe and Roblox studio) so I still use Windows and I'm ok with it.
If you work for a company that requires Adobe, I can understand that.
Try kvm
@@isaacr.1348 I don't have second graphics card and it runs like crap with emulated graphics.
I do single gpu passthrough, but yeah its not for everyone..
@@LeafpoolTheMedCat dual boots are ok if you can use them appropriately
Learning to use Linux makes you understand more about how computers work. Plus windows is trash 🗑️
I am actually having this exact realization. I have a group of friends that used to get together and play tabletop games and we've been having to do it remotely lately. One of them didn't have a working computer so I loaned him a spare I had sitting around. He's not a linux user so I set it up and installed a bunch of software that I knew he needed and told him to let me know if he had any questions. We're a few weeks in and he doesn't like it all. All of his issues have to do with using unfamiliar software, even if the alternative does what he needs it to do. He just doesn't like that it's different. So yea, if the person isn't willing to learn something different it's just not gonna work.
sudo apt remove macos
sudo apt remove windows
sudo apt install linux
I would love Linux if they had a complete graphics driver and a graphics program for my RX 5600XT Sapphire Pulse. It is not good
amdgpu. why you need graphic? you can set everything in terminals just read the wiki
It is definitely not for everyone, on the desktop at least. I have tried off an on for over 20 years to try and make a Linux Distro my main desktop. I’ve been using computers for 35+ years, used every version of windows since version 3, and I still can’t do it.
I love using Linux at the command line. I have a Linux box here running a few servers, and it’s rock solid stable. Once set up, they just work, and I can almost forget that they’re there. But I always eventually have a problem with the desktops, and I really don’t have the time or inclination anymore to spend hours and hours researching and tweaking things just to try and get my computer working again when something inevitably bugs out (usually the X windowing system, which always seems to bug out at the slightest error and refuses to launch the GUI).
Though I used to be Linux certified in the early 2000s, but things have changed so much, a lot of my knowledge isn’t’ valid anymore (never mind what I’ve forgotten). I need to do a lot of googling and research to fix problems now, and some of them I haven’t been able to fix. My last experiment with Fedora a few months ago worked great for a month, then all I did was uninstall a package that I had installed, and for some odd reason it b0rked X windows and I couldn’t boot into the GUI. I spent weeks determined to fix it, to no avail. Maybe if I paid for support, I could get someone to help me fix it. But I could also just launch WIndows and be done with it, which is what I did. When Windows screws up badly (which isn’t often anymore), I just roll it back to an earlier snapshot. Done. On with my day. I wish Linux distros had something like this. Maybe there is, and I just don’t know about it?
Even if I’m willing to put up with all of the hassle and spend the time and effort researching and tweaking a Linux distro to make it work as best as I can, as an advanced amateur photographer, I still don’t have Photoshop and Lightroom.. and no matter what anyone says, Gimp and Darktable are not good enough replacements for them. There is also scant support for color calibration, last I checked.
So, I still mainly use Windows or Mac on desktop (with a Linux desktop VM for playing with) and Linux on the server, and it will likely stay like that.
It's funny how different people have different experiences.
If I've understood you correctly, you had a Fedora machine running, and it was working correctly. Then you installed a package, and it still worked correctly. Sometime later, you removed the same package you installed, and X-Window stopped working. That's very odd to me. The only thing I've seen do anything like that is an Nvidia driver installation, but a manual one, and it would be resolved by reverting the xorg.conf file along with the installation (these days that would generally be accomplished by deleting or renaming the file, since there generally isn't an xorg.conf by default anymore). I have much more experience with Debian/Ubuntu and Slackware based systems than Red Hat based ones, however, and I've never used Fedora at all.
I've always been able to color calibrate monitors in Linux once I acquired the equipment to do so. Of course, I had to switch from a colorimeter to a spectrophotometer when I made the transition from CRT to LCD displays. I'm sure that Photoshop is better than GIMP for many things, but the few times I've used it, I always felt handicapped by its select tool compared to the one in GIMP. I haven't used Lightroom at all, but I know some features of Darktable that I've used are missing from it, so I'm not that anxious to try it, particularly considering the price. Between Darktable, Raw Therapee, and GIMP I've been able to do the photography things I've needed to do (Edit: I used to use Bibble Pro for raw development before Raw Therapee and Darktable came on the scene; it's still available for Linux as Corel Aftershot Pro, but it is proprietary, paid software, though it is quite good and not that expensive).
I'm not saying these things to try and influence you to move to Linux on the desktop. I'm just offering an alternative point of view as someone who has used Linux on the desktop for the last 21 years.
CFWhitman Yes I understand there are plenty of people running Linux out there as their only desktop that are happy with it. It’s just not going to work for what I want.
The X problem was odd. I tried to revert the xorg.conf file multiple times, which didn’t seem to work. I consulted the logs, googled the error messages I found, tried the fixes suggested online... I just could not get it to work, and every time I would try to start X at all, I was left with a black screen which wouldn’t respond to ctrl-alt-backspace. I either had to switch to a virtual terminal, log in blind, and shut down the system... or log in via SSH from another machine and kill the process. I eventually gave up on it, as to fix it required more knowledge that I have and more time than I wanted to spend learning to fix it. I had things to do. And with no way to undo what I had done automatically, I just uninstalled it, booted windows, and got done what I needed to do.
Darktable can be buggy, On some default installs I’ve had errors with it from not loading/saving files to crashing. When I’ve had it working fine, Darktable does have a lot of features, but it’s almost too much and too technical. It’s not very intuitive to me. Lightroom is more intuitive and way more polished... well worth worth the $9.99/mo I pay for it.
Plus I use other photo editing software like Luminar that has no Linux counterpart and as far as I know doesn’t run in WINE. I could run a Windows VM in a Linux host and use that software, but I’m not sure about color management in that case (would have to research it) but then why not just boot into Windows?
You can certainly have a color managed workflow on Linux, it’s just not easy to do.
I’m not trying to bad mouth Linux or any of the good people working on these applications. Until the problem I had, Fedora on the desktop was very polished and nice and ran wonderfully on my machine, better than windows, it was great for everything web based I used it for.
I’ve also run other desktop versions over the years, starting with RedHat 4.2 back in the day, the different Ubuntu-based flavors, Slackware, Mint, SuSE... but no matter what desktop distribution I ran, I would run into something eventually that I had to spend hours fixing. And that still rings true today, in my experience.
Linux is running daily in my home, just not on the desktop. Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea of using it as my only desktop OS, I just don’t have the time, or, frankly, the inclination to run it as my only one, dealing with all the workarounds and sacrifices I’d have to make to make it work for me.
For Linux you shouldve shown Ubuntu (Gnome)
LOL Still using Windows 7 and will continue to until I purchase a new game that will take advantage of DirectX12 and Ray Tracing. Also, the last security update for Windows 7 was only last month, mind you that you will not receive any notification in Windows, you have to know the KB article number associated with the specific update in order to find and download it directly from the Microsoft Update Catalog website. Hint: Microsoft publicly releases this information directly on their website LOL
You will be shocked how bad W10 really is.
@@Andy_S79 Oh I already know which is why I'm still on Windows 7 and in full control of my OS.
I considered switching to Linux but then I realized that I have nothing to gain from it. Everything I do in Windows just works. But I'm willing to learn more about Linux.
Same. I mainly play games and watch RUclips and sometimes make music. But I still keep up to date for Linux stuff. Hope it becomes more accessible
You gain privacy and more autonomy over your computer, but that’s more or less relevant depending on the person
@0:28 It is not foolproof and if you need to use a certain standard software you cannot use it.
@Chris titus Tech - I agree and disagree. "Linux" is for MOST people, but at different percentages of the time and use. Just because you require Windows to play games, doesn't mean that you are required to use it for all your other needs, and quite possibly shouldn't use it (Windows is dangerous on multiple levels). If this wasn't true, you would not use Linux 98% of the time and 2% for your gaming. And if you are a hard core gamer, you can afford to have a system that dual boots/ hot swap drives/ secondary computer for personal stuff. For someone who is new to computers, Linux is also an easier operating system to use and maintain.
Very true! Even when I started in on Linux, I just dual booted for windows specific tasks.
@@ChrisTitusTech now just game on linux!!! BTW i was watchin some of your old vids on the studio remodel, you just up the road a bit from me!!!
100% of the population CAN and Should use Linux, but they will currently divide what percentage in which they use it. As adoption grows, that percentage will also grow.
In 2021, League of Legends will use Vanguard.
Yucky
It's kind of sad that Riot is putting their spyware on the one good game from them.