@@jameswestley6550mental health is contagious. I heard that a nerotypical cant take the mental out of a person yet a person with mental illness will turn a nerotypical insane. Mental health is like a black hole if you get to close you will get sucked in and you will never be the same. I think the people who work there are patients just with a different label, they are just on the other side off the fence.
@@jameswestley6550 I dont know the time rate of how quick a person with mental health could change the mindset of a Nerotypical, I bet not long especially if the person with mental health intends to do so they will. 3rd off the population is known to be suffering with a mental condition or disorder, it wont be long the whole world will be in disorder and crazy is everywhere its much more functioning and is disguised as normal.
@@justjenny8210 everyone has mental health, you mean dysfunctionial mental health, sadly a lot of people don't even have mental disorders but are diagnosed as having them and given dangerous drugs such as lithium, when really all they have is aspergers and its usually women who get misdiagnosed (talking from experience)
Yes dysfunctional disorder. An autistic person just has a different way of seeing the world, .most down to earth genuine people I know are autistic. The most i know suffer mental illness tho, it is a disorder but with good guidance and cognitive therapy most won't need drugs to help, yet it is the quick fix to alot of people's problems. I have never believed in a quick fix. most will go to alcohol as a solution and become isolated. And look at the care from the so called professionals..they need cbt training themselves.
That is how they do things in Britain; on the service, it looks free and good but scratch the veneer, and all sorts of atrocities pop,s out in the UK they are good and very clever at hiding it than in other countries
Princess Diana visited a Drugs Project , and totally agree with what the chap here says. Diana was a ''Natural''. She dismissed her security staff, wore no gloves, and the clients really opened up to her. She genuinely listened..{other Royals have visited, but not had the same level of humanity about them. Diana really should have been a Nurse, I think...She was a humanitarian.
Anyone in a serious position of authority alone with vulnerable people should be on camera. Obviously excluding family etc, police, mental health workers who work with inpatients and maybe to a much lesser extent, care home staff. This conflicts with my ideas of a surveillance state but if placed by a truly liberal ( little l, let's not get too political ) government it could work. This idea probably needs a lot more thinking on so take my suggestion with a grain of salt
This is now common practice and has been since I started social work in 2019 and probably well before that. I wear them in any 1-1 interaction with someone who has mental illness.
I had pregnancy Psychosis and it was terrifying, cos what you experience IS REAL. Thankfully I was helped and fully recovered, but I can totally sympathise with some of these people. I still carry ALOT of guilt over what I could have done.
Sadly these kind of psychiatric institutions often attract quite disturbed and power hungry staff who derive sadistic pleasure from taunting and being mentally and physically cruel to its in-patients.
Of course these staff are taking it upon themselves to be the babysitter's of these facility's, some of them are bound to get frustrated. To see you thinking that they are the Disturbed power hungry hiding behind a badge type of person which shows the paranoia in your head which could possibly lead to the early onset schizophrenia. Why are you so eager to disagree with your governing forces. Have you always been a rebel? I hope you realize that I'm speaking sarcastically with some undertones of seriousness. My thoughts are this is going to be population control really soon. They're going to find some reason to not want to feed them anymore either and rather than hard-working citizens paying taxes to feed a potential Criminal could just bury them alive. Your government is messed up so is mine but as an American I can go down shooting.
Maybe most of the bad staff start the job with all good intentions but end up being bullying and cruel. I certainly don't condone such behaviour but I bet it's a very demanding a frustrating occupation and maybe they end up behaving like they do because of the job, kind of like they say that the abused and bullied end up being the bully or the abuser.
"Don't expect anyone to be nice to you." - What a doctor said to me about staff working in mental health, "If we only hired people that care, there wouldn't be any staff." - Most peoples opinion on the poor attitude of the staffs working in mental health. And I used to think people that worked in health sectors had a special kind of grace to them.
You are exactly right, 35yrs in mental health, the majority of staff treat you like they haven't got time for you, I ask myself time and time again why are most in this job? They don't care at all .
@@donnabarden4494 I've grown up with doctors, nurses, police and firefighter being noble jobs, everyday heroes. Unfortunately, any job offering money and people generally working just to support themselves, many people are wasting their skill and time in jobs they don't care for - people-haters in jobs involved with people, social butterflies in jobs that don't involve people. I'm thinking until our society reaches a point where it's more detrimental to have people not use their skill and experience in the most suited job to them, we will continue to have people in roles they don't fit.
@@anthonymao1375 this is what my doctor and nurses told me upon being admitted to a mental ward. I know not everyone in a group(professional or not) is cut from same cloth, but it only takes one to a few people from a group to cause damage.
@@birdyfilovingheart6365 he's not crazy but the people who stay in these hospitals are. Have you ever experienced psychosis? Hearing constant screaming voices saying the most sadistic disturbing things you could imagine. Being unable to distinguish fantasy and reality. Believing as much as water is blue that your child is the spawn of satan and must be killed to save the entire world from Armageddon. It's not the patients that are the problem. It's their condition. The people who are found legally sane after committing offenses like this, I completely again. I believe in the death penalty for those who are truly evil who kill people for their own enjoyment. But for gods sake. If you realized you put your baby in the oven because in the moment you were in such deep fear and paranoia that you truly believed it was the only option to save all of human kind, you need help, care, rehabilitation. Not to be thrown in a dark cell where you can sink further into delusion. Some people deserve to be dumped in a hole and treated like the mentally ill were in asylums for centuries, but you can be a victim and an offender at the same time
I worked in an adult mental hospital as a support worker and left after less than 2 months. The things I saw prove nothing much changes. One day a patient went out on unescorted leave and arrived back to the hospital drunk. The nurse in charge was so furious that she did that on his shift him and 3 other nurses dragged her off, ìnjected her with a sedative and locked her in the 136 suite (a monitered padded cell basically) she wasn't being remotely abusive, aggressive, acting out etc. She came back quietly drunk attempted to smoke a cigarette in the garden but got dragged away.. Another patient wasn't being released until he agreed with the Dr diagnoses. He felt it was a different diagnoses. Both treatments were exactly the same, he was happily engaging and agreeing he needed treatment but just felt the diagnoses was slightly wrong. Power trip hospital it really was.
I have a condition call scitzo effective disorder which is a mix of manic depression and scizophrenia. I had some really negative experiences with my psychosis but I did not murder anyone. I would love to go and meet some of these people at broadmoor. At least i could sympathise with their condition. It must be horrible seeing haunting hallucinations all the time. Psychosis is a very scary experience indeed!
great comment; she, of course, voluntarily entered an institution herself and became institutionalised...but let's admit it, the Fayed boyfriend bloke was dodgy all day long, his Harrods-owning father a sociopath, Trump-type fantasist who bullied and spied on his staff with hidden cameras; glib narcissistic sociopath....yuk. The type to make you think Brexit is not such a bad idea after all. i.e. less inward immigration
I’ve been in several secure psychiatric units in Kent and London and can confirm that staff do assault, sexually abuse and medically abuse (forcibly administer drugs that cause effects they find funny) patients on a regular basis. You find that psychopaths are attracted to being some form of worker in them places because they can basically do what they want and never get in trouble because a mental patient had no credibility in court. That’s why saville was so attracted to Broadmoor because he and other staff like him know that a mental patient can easily be discredited in court and what we say will never be believed and can be dismissed as a delusion or hallucination. It’s absolutely brutal and the violence I witnessed was horrendous. They go on and on about the gestapo or the kgb and what they allegedly did but I witnessed first hand that Britain in 2013 (the last time I was a patient) employs the exact same tactics against the most vulnerable and even severe sexual abuse on top of that. It’s pure evil and makes lots of money for the drug companies. Just a scam. If your sick mentally the last thing you should do in Britain is go to a doctor because if your not truely mental when you go in a secure unit I can guarantee you that upon leaving you will be!!
Same in Australia. It is very bad and the stress off this subject and the abuses will shorten my life. It has hurt the quality of my life and it certainly has destroyed my son. It is hard and a lonely journey. No one wants to help or get involved. If they do get involved it is usually more abuse anyway. What went wrong? It is so dark age stuff. It is Gestapo behaviour? It is a bully. It a liar and a farce the whole institutional system. So unnatural. No organics in such artificial boring mindless settings. So frustrating.
Yes, I agree. My ex husband is a psychiatric nurse, and crazy as a bedbug. Not mean to his patients, but much happier with his clients than at home. All of these hospitals should have cameras in every room to prevent the abuse.
I worked in an asylum for 16 years. I never witnessed any of the behaviour you describe. If I had of done, I would have reported it and such people would be dismissed. Asylum life compared favourably with modern community care. There were social clubs, big entertainment events like sports days, cricket matches, football matches, concerts, there were woodwork and metal work departments, there were farms and orchards and the whole of the grounds were full of flowers. Patients got three good meals a day, were given clothing, there was a library, cigarette money provided, two weeks holiday by the coast, dental services and lots more. There was a strong sense of community too. Compare that with todays paltry care with patients living in shabby bedsits smoking spliffs and not getting up until the afternoons. Nurses spent their time talking to patients, today they spend their time filling in risk assessments and entering data for pointless management surveys. Patient care meant something in the asylums.
Very well done, intriguing documentary. How silly of me to think the queen would make an appearance at a mental hospital... it was lovely to see Princess Diana -even if only for a brief moment-visiting the hospital on one of her many endeavors.
@@pamelaadam9207 I'm cynical too ,but "photo op" ? She probably could emphasise due to the conditions she herself was exposed to ,being used and singled out as a birth machine to secure the 'royal' lineage , even though she shouldn't have been so naive to subscribe to that scam.
ryancosgrovemusic It cwas partly because of her husband's friendship with that pervert she was murdered. Who knows what she witnessed & heard when Savile visited him & her in law's at Buckingham Palace & & other royal residences they use
As a son of a woman that worked in psychiatric hospital, I received the physical bullying, and torture..throughout my childhood. I guess they would analyse that as taking your work home..or maybe overtime!!
Yeh but she only wanted the cameras there as and when it suited her. Unfortunately when your in the public domain it doesn’t work like that. You either accept the press and media as a part of your life or you don’t have them around you full stop. Diana’s biggest problem was she thought she could dictate when they filmed her and when they didn’t. The paparazzi doesn’t work like that.
To go to a mental hospital, and then sit there for a year or more without even a consult and assessment is unconscionable. These hospitals are full of sadistic staff who teach new staff that sadistic treatment is necessary. The point of contact between staff and patient is where the change must begin.
We have the same in Holland and we pay €160 a month health care and top of that €385 all risk for xrays hospital appointments bloods we pay so much and out waiting list for metal health is really bad.
Ha! You can declare bankruptcy in the US, if you can get it at all. Mental healthcare in the US is next to non existent for most. Evidenced by our gun culture and almost daily mass shootings. Count your blessings. We have people literally dying for lack of healthcare every day.
My brother has persecutor paranoid schizophrenia, my sister had bi polar and committed suicide my nephew has psychosis and schizofrenia and they thankfully are not violent but they are very vulnerable. I've been to prison and there's a lot of insane very poorly people in there, then there's the prisoners. I've witnessed abuse on a horrible scale and I truly believe these places make people worse. I can't comment further I just feel this world needs a little more love and understanding.
agreed. So many ignorant people in the comments are saying how the guilty should be locked in stone dungeons and starved. People don't understand psychosis at all -_-
I have always said that the MHS is the Cinderella of the NHS and it has got worse since the closing down of Psychiatric Hospitals for so called community care which is an absolute joke. They need more residential facilities with quality staff who are well paid.
I was in the new personality disorder unit for 7 years had a lot of cbt also diagnosed with schizophrenia I left 5 years ago moving to a less secure hospital up north. Was there for another 7 years now have my own flat district nurses and a social worker not under the mental health act any more didn't see any violence from the staff left a better person it helped me alot
I actually prayed for Karen, i dont know why something really drew me in with the message "pray for me" on her wall, so sad. I hope you're in a better place now. Love and god bless
maya'smomhere: Broadmoor looks like it needs groundskeepers (@31:53) to neaten up around the brick buildings, which are wonderfully classically beautiful...surely some of those patients who suffer "insufficient purposeful activity" could do tasks like weeding and sweeping? Caring for the grounds and trees is certainly worthwhile work and could quite possibly be considered actual rehabilitative job training. Surely some patients could be trusted with pruning equipment for a few supervised hours, not to mention leaf rakes, brooms, dust pans... give them something to DO (besides waiting!) and then to see, to appreciate, the results of that DOing... pride in one's work, a visual reward and recognized value of a persons time & labor, a sense of belonging... all good stuff! Love, anonymousmom
Crazy to know someone in my class used to live very close to broadmoor - one time the alarm went off (he was very young back then) and when the police caught the person who escaped - they were behind his house. It's so scary and it gives me goosebumps.
I remember once the siren went off we were Sent home on the bus... there was a time outside of the once a week tests the siren went off all the time.. joys of a school near by.
Broadmoor housed an insane Civil War Doctor who helped Prof. James Murray create the Oxford Dictionary. Dr. W. C. Minor was his name...read "The Professor and The Madman" by Simon Winchester. Great read !
@ The referred feud is the USA's Civil War 1861-1865...1642-1651 summarizes the overall span of England's series of Civil Wars. Plz do correct me if I'm wrong...so many years, so many wars, so little times. And indeed he did, get to lookin' mighty friggin' old ! love, anonymousmom
I used to go to Edgbarrow School which had massive grounds and eventually the grounds lead on to Broadmoor .. there were many escapes when I attended Edgbarrow and when they did escape we were supposed to be picked up by our parents from school in those days not every parent had two cars , so the irony was we had to walk to our nearest bus stop which was quite away away wait half an hour an hour or so for a bus to take us home by that time we could’ve all been murdered we just took it so lightly because it seemed everybody else took it so lightly … yet we would’ve been safer staying in the school.
Don’t ever tell a mentally ill person to “calm down….” They will do the exact opposite and flip out! (As I would.) I have personally seen how mentally ill patients get treated (by some) and it’s often hard to watch how they get spoken to. Empathy is necessary to work in that field. Many lack empathy. It’s unfortunate.
@@salijayehinsen2892 same. Being on the spectrum makes me hyper aware of when people are being just plain MEAN. Working in the mental health field takes a special type of person. One with a heart & someone that actually cares.
I was at Broadmoor for 4 an half years and it was a good place to help me with my issues. I had thrown puppies on the railway tracks back in 1994 as i was hearing voices telling me i needed to or the house would collapse because of the devil. I have only relapsed 5 times since and am now happily married with a management role at Tesco express, so the place was pretty good
Joe White thanks for your support Joe it really means a lot to me, if you're ever in the Morecambe pop by the Heysham road tesco express and I'll sort you out with a meal deal
I’m American and Princess Diana was very beloved over here as well. She was my hero growing up. I looked up to her. She was lovely,poised and down to earth. Wish she was still around we can use her kind heart right now in the world. RIP Princess Diana 🌹
Savile isn't the only pedophile who was in the TV business. He just got caught. There are many more still in TV, movies, and politics. The people making this documentary probably want everyone to forget about Savile. However this documentary may have been made before Savile was exposed.
Some of the terrible things that staff there have done just beggars belief. I work with extremely challenging behaviour in a small care home environment, one of the folks I look after is, for want of a better term, completely round the twist due to abuse suffered in previous institutions. They are extremely violent, can spit, lash out, scream, attack themselves and display inappropriate sexual behaviour. But when you speak to them on a good day they are sweet, chatty and very friendly. They were born with learning disabilities, but the extreme level of abuse they suffered throughout their life is what has made them so dangerous. It's absolutely heartbreaking, and I just can't understand the mentality of staff who do that to vulnerable people. Maybe it's the abusive staff that belong in Broadmoor alongside the patients..
Broadmoor is and has been the most severe punishment and torture centre for alledged offenders and psych patients. The place is and never has been fit for purpose ! An absolute embarressment to the country.More offensive and criminal than any inmates.
I am a retired nurse I spent 16 years working in asylums. I find there is a serious problem with this documentary. If a person has an acute psychotic interlude, of which have seen hundreds, when they recover, their understanding of the actual incidents which led to restraint are severely compromised and rationalised. I remember one ex Broadmoor client that explained to me how he had been deeply misunderstood and lay, he had only ,mistakenly been accused of smashing a glass into a nurses face. The man was gentle and very polite. I knew him for six years, he was always courteous and continually insisted he ddI not require treatment. After many years, one day I was called to an emergency on another ward. I walked into a room to find him with a broken snooker cue looking as dangerous as anyone could imagine, he meant to do intense harm to anyone that went near to him. I do not know what caused this as I was not involved in his treatment at that time. Later I was to meet him wel again, thanks to the efforts of the professional team involved. He still insisted he did not require treatment. He had a very rationalised memory of the incident I describe, al a misunderstanding by others. Great care is required in such circumstances and one must err on the side of protection of the public.
I recently read "Mad in America" by Robert Whitaker . It's about the history of psychiatry. Not much has changed since it's beginnings, it's inhumane in all aspects.
People don't seem to realise this was broadcast in 2002. Things have changed since then. Also these are some of the most dangerous criminals in the country, who cannot be contained at a lower security hospital.
After having watched this, I am reminded of the hundreds of paedophiles who from videos on here seem not to be able to be cured from their perversions yet receive only a few months or years in prison, are released and continue to commit further crimes against children. It’s maybe better to lock these people up indefinitely in a place like Broadmoor rather than some of those seen in this documentary.
The people in this video that complain about the severity of security might have a different view if one of their loved ones were a victim of these inmates. Sick they maybe but they are definitely too dangerous to roam free among the innocent public.
A much loved family member has epilepsy. He was put in Camarillo state Mental Hospital in California after trying to end his life. His epilepsy was just too difficult to live with, & he had it all his life. I was told my family finally got him out of that creepy place. He was treated to electrical shocjk treatments & who knows what else. The reason Camarillo is so creepy is its near the ocean & it has beautifully manicured grounds, but in the background you can see the Spanish style buildings and as you drive up to it sometimes you can hear patients crying out. Its no longer functioning, Thank God. They say that area is haunted, I believe it.
IF INMATES ARENT SEVERELY PSYCOLOGICALLY DAMAGED WHEN THEY ARRIVE, THEY CERTAINLY WILL BE BY THE TIME THEY ESCAPE OR LEAVE IF EVER.IN A LOT OF CASES, THE STAFF ARE MORE CRIMINALLY INSANE THAN THE PATIENTS.
..here in the states..I know these huge "mental hospitals" (as they were called back then) left a lot to be desired..but there were good ones and there were good Drs and Nurses...now so many of our mentally ill people are homeless, and living under bridges..it's so sad
Always been fascinated by Broadmoor Hospital, it's a really eerie building and the people in this hospital are notorious for the crimes they committed. Psychiatric hospitals are really interesting.
Why do schizophrenic voices always tell people to do bad things? Why don´t they tell people to be kind to strangers, be helpful, become a volunteer, etc?
Paranoia, delusions, feelings of persecution etc are all a part of the schizophrenic makeup - thus the voices a sufferer hears tend to be derogatory. It's an awful illnesses
Joe White. Thanks for the comment. But you don´t really answer my question except kind of state what schizophrenia is. The question is why. Why when we have schizophrenia, it turns us into a bad person, but not a good person. Is there a mental illness for hearing good voices? Is "bad" the default mode of our brain? According to Steve Parks here apparently some of them do hear "good" voices. I haven´t checked out the network he mentions yet.
may be because the "nice" ones, the ones who hear voices telling them to do good and nice things don't get in trouble with the law, don't get reported by family and friends as needing help, etc...they are "those nice people" =) Why would anyone even get checked? - Hay doc, can you check my brain, I think I may be too nice, do I have schizophrenia by any chance? - not gonna happen =)
It appears to me that the problem with Broadmoor is that it cannot decide whether it is a hospital or a prison. Is it therapeutic or criminal detention?? If it is a secure hospital, then secure it damned well needs to be, but it also needs to be functioning as a hospital, that being treating the severely mentally ill.....but the issue is that those mentally ill may well also be killers, so that is where the detention side must come in. The lines are obviously severely blurred. As a former nurse and also a mental illness sufferer, I can see it from both sides, but in terms of it supposedly being a hospital, since when did treatment and therapy involve shackles and ice water dousings??? Absolutely disgusting.
Most of them are inmates, crazy basterds ones as well like child killers. One escaped and by the time he was found he killed a young child riding around on a bike. They are inmates as well as patients.
This makes me so mad as a professional healthcare worker, we try our best to deal with a very complex group of clients. We have been to University and have an incredible amount of personal investment in our clients. Stop hiring managers and hire more staff. We are exhausted we know what we are doing let’s us do it with safe staffing numbers to provide to very best treatment we can.
After being institutionslised in Broadmoor for e6 years its surprising thry would then release someone. How they're then meant to be able to function in society is beyond me.
It's worth mentioning that during the time these incidents were specificed Savile had the run of the place and the idea of male and female patients living together was his idea. Savile actually got Alan Franey his job at Broadmoor as they were "close friends."
Too bad about Diana, she would have made a great Queen for the U.K. It's just a shame because she was really good at doing the job that the Royal Family of the U.K. are required to perform.
This place is on Par, from the outside at Least, with U.S Supermax Penitentiaries. And Judging by the last patient at the end, 36 years in Broadmore for assault on his girfreind. WTF?!?!? 1st Degree murder in the U.S is 25 years in the U.S, on the first Parole hearing on average!
It's because he would have been detained under the mental health act. When this happens you can be detained at her majesty's pleasure, which means until it is offically decided that it is safe to release you, could be next week, could be never.
It's called an indefinite sentence. Meaning there is no set time you will be realised. However the average time spent in broadmoor on an indefinite sentence is 20years.
You know, these horrendous situations sound eerily like what the police are doing in the United States. Keeping someone locked up without telling them when or how to get out, is torture. That makes people crazy. That's why you have so many problems in county jails as opposed to prison. Everyone in prison knows when they are getting out. Many people sitting in county jails do not.
Worked in a forensic locked ward for 4 years, most satisfying role i had, i was never attacked, treated patients with respect and guidance works wonders
I just feel these ex patients are being “over treated” because they don’t actually belong there. If a highly highly dangerous and disturbed person reacts, immediate prevention seems kinda justifiable. But some aren’t even slightly near there that level of insanity. Hence, I feel like it really becomes a problem when an institution tries to be both a mental hospital and a place for dangerous insane criminals.
I believe the patient’s about the abuse. Like in any profession there is always a few bad apples. I think you have to be a very special person to work with these patients.
My father served in the British armed forces back in the 80s. He was on the squadron's football team and they were given the opportunity to play the team of guards at Broadmoor. I have no idea whether they won or not, but in the canteen afterwards one of my dad's teammates calls over a nurse and says "excuse me, can you please have a look at my eyes, I'm having trouble with them" the nurse says "sure", he dropped his trousers and showed her the pair of eyes tattooed on his bum cheek. That's the story of how my father, and the rest of his team, were given a lifetime ban from Britain's top security psychiatric hospital
I think that the last woman who spoke about her dead daughter, was suspicious that she had been murdered by a dangerous person and that the crime was covered up by the authorities..
I have a disorder called schizoaffective, a mix of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, and frequent psychiatric hospitals, including PICU (psychiatric intensive care units) and every hospital I've been in has assaulted others and myself, physically and sexually, and people not being allowed food etc so it's very disturbing
Im very sorry, this is truly cruel. Those places should help people get their lives back and be put back on track, instead they take advantage of the patients and their power knowing can get away with it in mental hospitals. My friend has the same diagnosis and im so worried about her. She lost her twin due to suicide and after got into a mental hospital herself, watching this doc and reading your comment makes me feel helpless realizing hospitals make it so much worse. I hope you and her will be able to live a happy and fullfilling life and not face the abuse anymore.
A good friend of mine got robbed of a gold watch While in Broadmoor , it was a nurse that had him off, My friend was just happy to get out of that place & back To the prison system, he’s out now & back home. M.W ~ Salford
They've come so far with treatment and medication...in the 70's..we mostly had Haldol, Mellaril, Lithium..Valium..now they have so much more. ..I just think there should be housing provided for the severely mentally ill...they need care and monitoring many times...it's inhumane that they are left to fend for themselves...sometimes on the streets...or warehoused in prisons...
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Absolutely shocking, heartbreaking and disgraceful that staff treat patients so cruelly. Places like this should regularly be investigated. Sounds like this place needs to be closed down until they find decent, caring and compassionate people to run it. Jesus how sick the human race has become. Shame on the system, who are public servants paid by the public to protect.
I call bs - there are 400 patients treated 24/7 for like hundred years... and they present a couple of mistakes here from people in extreme situations.... most of these patients hurt, killed and victimized other innocent people... I think we went a long way from just hanging them or beat them dead, because they will never contribute to society but even destroy lives. We are spending a lot of resources on them - more than most people recieve from the government on a monthly base for years and decades. You show me a better system instead of your deluded expectations! Can we bring them to your house? Inside your family?
I was assaulted by several members of staff on an acute ward (i was 14 and was on this ward after attempting to take my life countless times) this happened in 2013. Most of the staff members in these hospitals are wonderful and so supportive but others abuse their position power and hurt vulnerable people.
Psychiatry hasn’t evolved. They merely prescribe more potent drugs to try to keep their clients comfortably numb. Most of these “doctors “ have more hidden issues than the ones they claim they are treating. They’re like pedophile priests trying to point others toward Heaven when they aren’t going themselves.
It’s actually gone backwards. The whole drug therapy (anti depressants anti psychotics etc) thing is one of the most disgusting scams in human history.
Devolved, is more accurate at this point in Human History. Next to War, Whores 4 War R US just love putting Humans in Cages and Enslaving them for sick and sadistic purposes. Plus, they then charge the Public Debt for their own Private Profit Enterprises. This is Modern Day Slavery adjusted for the 21st Century!
Omg them poor patients thats horrendous and should have proper training,they cant just shackle people cause they cant "deal" with them,there also abusing and neglecting them,its vile
Australia, a Childrens Ward. A 14yo intellectually delayed female restrained to bed by wrists. Bed sides up. Reason, getting out of bed and touching resuscitation equip at head of bed. 20yrs ago.
So sad how we catagorize, stigmatize and imprison the mentally ill. They need real help. Cutting them off in a bleak, sometimes abusive environment will ensure they will become more violent. Not less.
Sadly, I worked on an adult psychiatric facility for 3 years and things don't change much. People aren't treated very kindly
Done 5 years working in mental health care, it's the fecking staff that need the most help. Like a bullet to the head
@@jameswestley6550mental health is contagious. I heard that a nerotypical cant take the mental out of a person yet a person with mental illness will turn a nerotypical insane. Mental health is like a black hole if you get to close you will get sucked in and you will never be the same. I think the people who work there are patients just with a different label, they are just on the other side off the fence.
@@jameswestley6550 I dont know the time rate of how quick a person with mental health could change the mindset of a Nerotypical, I bet not long especially if the person with mental health intends to do so they will. 3rd off the population is known to be suffering with a mental condition or disorder, it wont be long the whole world will be in disorder and crazy is everywhere its much more functioning and is disguised as normal.
@@justjenny8210 everyone has mental health, you mean dysfunctionial mental health, sadly a lot of people don't even have mental disorders but are diagnosed as having them and given dangerous drugs such as lithium, when really all they have is aspergers and its usually women who get misdiagnosed (talking from experience)
Yes dysfunctional disorder.
An autistic person just has a different way of seeing the world, .most down to earth genuine people I know are autistic. The most i know suffer mental illness tho, it is a disorder but with good guidance and cognitive therapy most won't need drugs to help, yet it is the quick fix to alot of people's problems. I have never believed in a quick fix. most will go to alcohol as a solution and become isolated. And look at the care from the so called professionals..they need cbt training themselves.
He really dropped the ball when saying "the prison, uh... the mental hospital" 🤣
That is how they do things in Britain; on the service, it looks free and good but scratch the veneer, and all sorts of atrocities pop,s out in the UK they are good and very clever at hiding it than in other countries
I spotted that lol, worst thing is we have more popping up
@@seansands424 it’s for the criminally insane, would you have them in prisons with felons who would attack them?
It is a prison just for the mentally unwell ones
They didn't mention Jimmy Savile being given a managerial role at Broadmoor in 1988.
This was broadcast in 2002 before the truth about him came out
Jimmey Savill INNOCENT!! big fan from japaaaaan!! 🇯🇵✌🇯🇵✌🇯🇵
@@chadbundy4156 are you stupid?
Chad Bundy
Are you that naïve and deluded??
@@chadbundy4156 : Obviously you lack attention. Eff off you troll.
Princess Diana visited a Drugs Project , and totally agree with what the chap here says.
Diana was a ''Natural''.
She dismissed her security staff, wore no gloves, and the clients really opened up to her.
She genuinely listened..{other Royals have visited, but not had the same level of humanity about them.
Diana really should have been a Nurse, I think...She was a humanitarian.
All staff should have a body camera recording at all time during their shifts..simple as that.
You should be a comedian
Anyone in a serious position of authority alone with vulnerable people should be on camera. Obviously excluding family etc, police, mental health workers who work with inpatients and maybe to a much lesser extent, care home staff.
This conflicts with my ideas of a surveillance state but if placed by a truly liberal ( little l, let's not get too political ) government it could work. This idea probably needs a lot more thinking on so take my suggestion with a grain of salt
True as it covers both sides for sure?
This is now common practice and has been since I started social work in 2019 and probably well before that. I wear them in any 1-1 interaction with someone who has mental illness.
Well the place is saturated with CCTV so it’s not as if the staff can go round abusing inmates.
I had pregnancy Psychosis and it was terrifying, cos what you experience IS REAL. Thankfully I was helped and fully recovered, but I can totally sympathise with some of these people. I still carry ALOT of guilt over what I could have done.
Sadly these kind of psychiatric institutions often attract quite disturbed and power hungry staff who derive sadistic pleasure from taunting and being mentally and physically cruel to its in-patients.
Yeah i dont trust many of these staff. They abuse their power and abuse the patients. Not all, but a lot of them.
Of course these staff are taking it upon themselves to be the babysitter's of these facility's, some of them are bound to get frustrated. To see you thinking that they are the Disturbed power hungry hiding behind a badge type of person which shows the paranoia in your head which could possibly lead to the early onset schizophrenia. Why are you so eager to disagree with your governing forces. Have you always been a rebel? I hope you realize that I'm speaking sarcastically with some undertones of seriousness. My thoughts are this is going to be population control really soon. They're going to find some reason to not want to feed them anymore either and rather than hard-working citizens paying taxes to feed a potential Criminal could just bury them alive. Your government is messed up so is mine but as an American I can go down shooting.
Absolutely and ty for that comment!
Maybe most of the bad staff start the job with all good intentions but end up being bullying and cruel. I certainly don't condone such behaviour but I bet it's a very demanding a frustrating occupation and maybe they end up behaving like they do because of the job, kind of like they say that the abused and bullied end up being the bully or the abuser.
Titus Robertson regardless of political affiliation, what an ignorant and completely irrelevant statement.
"Don't expect anyone to be nice to you." - What a doctor said to me about staff working in mental health,
"If we only hired people that care, there wouldn't be any staff." - Most peoples opinion on the poor attitude of the staffs working in mental health.
And I used to think people that worked in health sectors had a special kind of grace to them.
You are exactly right, 35yrs in mental health, the majority of staff treat you like they haven't got time for you, I ask myself time and time again why are most in this job? They don't care at all .
@@donnabarden4494 I've grown up with doctors, nurses, police and firefighter being noble jobs, everyday heroes. Unfortunately, any job offering money and people generally working just to support themselves, many people are wasting their skill and time in jobs they don't care for - people-haters in jobs involved with people, social butterflies in jobs that don't involve people.
I'm thinking until our society reaches a point where it's more detrimental to have people not use their skill and experience in the most suited job to them, we will continue to have people in roles they don't fit.
So you judge me by the way an unprofessional to say the least, doctor? You are probably not sane, I judge by your statements.
@@anthonymao1375 this is what my doctor and nurses told me upon being admitted to a mental ward. I know not everyone in a group(professional or not) is cut from same cloth, but it only takes one to a few people from a group to cause damage.
I hear bones cracking.
Sick people whose suffering wasn’t helped, just added to. Very sad.
They should have been burned alive in their cells, especially Sutcliffe. Why on earth would we care for them?
Are you crazy? Dear God these people wouldn't think twice about torturing and killing a child and you want them cared for? Damn do-gooder!
@@birdyfilovingheart6365 he's not crazy but the people who stay in these hospitals are. Have you ever experienced psychosis? Hearing constant screaming voices saying the most sadistic disturbing things you could imagine. Being unable to distinguish fantasy and reality. Believing as much as water is blue that your child is the spawn of satan and must be killed to save the entire world from Armageddon. It's not the patients that are the problem. It's their condition. The people who are found legally sane after committing offenses like this, I completely again. I believe in the death penalty for those who are truly evil who kill people for their own enjoyment. But for gods sake. If you realized you put your baby in the oven because in the moment you were in such deep fear and paranoia that you truly believed it was the only option to save all of human kind, you need help, care, rehabilitation. Not to be thrown in a dark cell where you can sink further into delusion. Some people deserve to be dumped in a hole and treated like the mentally ill were in asylums for centuries, but you can be a victim and an offender at the same time
I worked in an adult mental hospital as a support worker and left after less than 2 months. The things I saw prove nothing much changes. One day a patient went out on unescorted leave and arrived back to the hospital drunk. The nurse in charge was so furious that she did that on his shift him and 3 other nurses dragged her off, ìnjected her with a sedative and locked her in the 136 suite (a monitered padded cell basically) she wasn't being remotely abusive, aggressive, acting out etc. She came back quietly drunk attempted to smoke a cigarette in the garden but got dragged away..
Another patient wasn't being released until he agreed with the Dr diagnoses. He felt it was a different diagnoses. Both treatments were exactly the same, he was happily engaging and agreeing he needed treatment but just felt the diagnoses was slightly wrong. Power trip hospital it really was.
Very similar to care homes, it was horrid exoerience workng there,
@@amijack421 not all care homes
shocking ppl who abuse vulnerable patients need locked up too
I have a condition call scitzo effective disorder which is a mix of manic depression and scizophrenia. I had some really negative experiences with my psychosis but I did not murder anyone. I would love to go and meet some of these people at broadmoor. At least i could sympathise with their condition. It must be horrible seeing haunting hallucinations all the time. Psychosis is a very scary experience indeed!
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👋Keep taken the medication it prevents psychotic episodes. All the best for the future.
I’ve suffered a psychosis attack and they are horrendous
Pardon the ignorant comments ...they probably can’t spell psychosis , let alone know what it is or how to treat it.
@A Sojourner yeah let's take us back to a more brutal time...
It was lovely to be reminded of the late Princess Diana's visit. So gracious and compassionate and greatly missed.
great comment; she, of course, voluntarily entered an institution herself and became institutionalised...but let's admit it, the Fayed boyfriend bloke was dodgy all day long, his Harrods-owning father a sociopath, Trump-type fantasist who bullied and spied on his staff with hidden cameras; glib narcissistic sociopath....yuk. The type to make you think Brexit is not such a bad idea after all. i.e. less inward immigration
I’ve been in several secure psychiatric units in Kent and London and can confirm that staff do assault, sexually abuse and medically abuse (forcibly administer drugs that cause effects they find funny) patients on a regular basis. You find that psychopaths are attracted to being some form of worker in them places because they can basically do what they want and never get in trouble because a mental patient had no credibility in court. That’s why saville was so attracted to Broadmoor because he and other staff like him know that a mental patient can easily be discredited in court and what we say will never be believed and can be dismissed as a delusion or hallucination. It’s absolutely brutal and the violence I witnessed was horrendous. They go on and on about the gestapo or the kgb and what they allegedly did but I witnessed first hand that Britain in 2013 (the last time I was a patient) employs the exact same tactics against the most vulnerable and even severe sexual abuse on top of that. It’s pure evil and makes lots of money for the drug companies. Just a scam. If your sick mentally the last thing you should do in Britain is go to a doctor because if your not truely mental when you go in a secure unit I can guarantee you that upon leaving you will be!!
Same in Australia. It is very bad and the stress off this subject and the abuses will shorten my life. It has hurt the quality of my life and it certainly has destroyed my son. It is hard and a lonely journey. No one wants to help or get involved. If they do get involved it is usually more abuse anyway. What went wrong? It is so dark age stuff. It is Gestapo behaviour? It is a bully. It a liar and a farce the whole institutional system. So unnatural. No organics in such artificial boring mindless settings. So frustrating.
Yes, I agree. My ex husband is a psychiatric nurse, and crazy as a bedbug. Not mean to his patients, but much happier with his clients than at home. All of these hospitals should have cameras in every room to prevent the abuse.
@illegit No, it is a condition of mental faculties all over the world.
I worked in an asylum for 16 years. I never witnessed any of the behaviour you describe. If I had of done, I would have reported it and such people would be dismissed. Asylum life compared favourably with modern community care. There were social clubs, big entertainment events like sports days, cricket matches, football matches, concerts, there were woodwork and metal work departments, there were farms and orchards and the whole of the grounds were full of flowers.
Patients got three good meals a day, were given clothing, there was a library, cigarette money provided, two weeks holiday by the coast, dental services and lots more. There was a strong sense of community too. Compare that with todays paltry care with patients living in shabby bedsits smoking spliffs and not getting up until the afternoons. Nurses spent their time talking to patients, today they spend their time filling in risk assessments and entering data for pointless management surveys. Patient care meant something in the asylums.
@@Notmehimorthem
What was the place called Theresanstadt 🤔?
as someone who's spent lots of time in wards the staff can be so cruel its sickening even towards literal CHILDREN
Please understand that spirits can attack/attach to staff as well causing staff to act out towards patients and the staff's family members...
@@ronlentjes2739 I would take your anti-psychotic medication if i were you.
Very well done, intriguing documentary. How silly of me to think the queen would make an appearance at a mental hospital... it was lovely to see Princess Diana -even if only for a brief moment-visiting the hospital on one of her many endeavors.
kozzicosgrovemusic I don’t believe that Diana knew what Savile was up to.
The queen nope she dont like that, remember here 2 cousins are in a mental institution then
Photo op no more than that
@@pamelaadam9207 I'm cynical too ,but "photo op" ? She probably could emphasise due to the conditions she herself was exposed to ,being used and singled out as a birth machine to secure the 'royal' lineage , even though she shouldn't have been so naive to subscribe to that scam.
The queen is currently being torture by many spirits including Diana (why did you kill me, I wanted to marry him!)
I loved Princess Diana...she was such a sweet and genuine person.
Fancy's Folly yeah her and her mate saville
Fancy's Folly n
@@ChallengeTheNarrative I used it because the British monarchy is in itself a high powered paedophile ring and procured children and abused children
ryancosgrovemusic It cwas partly because of her husband's friendship with that pervert she was murdered. Who knows what she witnessed & heard when Savile visited him & her in law's at Buckingham Palace & & other royal residences they use
Richard Dadd's painting are beautiful, amazing that he remembered it all...
I'm guessing he was somewhere on the autistic spectrum.
As a son of a woman that worked in psychiatric hospital, I received the physical bullying, and torture..throughout my childhood.
I guess they would analyse that as taking your work home..or maybe overtime!!
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So sorry. I hope you have healing, sending prayers and strength to you. God bless 🙏
That is 😢 but they say if staff work with severe mentally ill people they become sick themselves.
Please understand that spirits can attack/attach to staff as well causing staff to act out towards patients and the staff's family members...
Poor girl pray for me made my heart sink
R.I.P Princess Diana we could do with you being here these days that’s for sure
100%
Yeh but she only wanted the cameras there as and when it suited her. Unfortunately when your in the public domain it doesn’t work like that. You either accept the press and media as a part of your life or you don’t have them around you full stop. Diana’s biggest problem was she thought she could dictate when they filmed her and when they didn’t. The paparazzi doesn’t work like that.
To go to a mental hospital, and then sit there for a year or more without even a consult and assessment is unconscionable. These hospitals are full of sadistic staff who teach new staff that sadistic treatment is necessary. The point of contact between staff and patient is where the change must begin.
Please understand that spirits can attack/attach to staff as well causing staff to act out towards patients and the staff's family members...
You know the NHS is in a mess when even a Broadmoor patient has to wait a year or more for psychiatric treatment!!
Isn't it HMP Broadmoor as that makes it a cat A prison.
@Sheree Boulton yeah, healthcare is so lacking. 6 week waiting list for GP when I was @ Foston Hall.
But it’s so much better than nothing, like in the US.
We have the same in Holland and we pay €160 a month health care and top of that €385 all risk for xrays hospital appointments bloods we pay so much and out waiting list for metal health is really bad.
Ha! You can declare bankruptcy in the US, if you can get it at all. Mental healthcare in the US is next to non existent for most. Evidenced by our gun culture and almost daily mass shootings. Count your blessings. We have people literally dying for lack of healthcare every day.
My brother has persecutor paranoid schizophrenia, my sister had bi polar and committed suicide my nephew has psychosis and schizofrenia and they thankfully are not violent but they are very vulnerable. I've been to prison and there's a lot of insane very poorly people in there, then there's the prisoners. I've witnessed abuse on a horrible scale and I truly believe these places make people worse. I can't comment further I just feel this world needs a little more love and understanding.
Sorry to hear honey. Bless you all x
Those poor souls... Their suffering has never really been acknowledged adequately.
agreed. So many ignorant people in the comments are saying how the guilty should be locked in stone dungeons and starved. People don't understand psychosis at all -_-
@@danielthemaniel7934 They've fallen for the stigma of mental illness.
Yes I was in Broadmoor for poisoning people... So a job where I control the poisonous thallium would be great!! Wow!! 🙄🙄
You fuckin idiot
‘in the prison- uh the mental hospital’ 😂
otoke I lol'd so hard
Tianna Piacente the sad thing is, is it shouldn't actually be funny really. If you have a heart anyway. This is what's wrong with the world.
Hood lum it is dark humor, but how else can a person cope with this world.
Hood lum it’s funny because of the slip, and then he just glazed over it. I love that whoever edited this left it in, it’s referred to as a “tell”
i mean the dude said prison and remembered is not called that even though its clearly a prison...
The toe bent back in the restraint sounds so horrible. Omg
I have always said that the MHS is the Cinderella of the NHS and it has got worse since the closing down of Psychiatric Hospitals for so called community care which is an absolute joke. They need more residential facilities with quality staff who are well paid.
I was in the new personality disorder unit for 7 years had a lot of cbt also diagnosed with schizophrenia I left 5 years ago moving to a less secure hospital up north. Was there for another 7 years now have my own flat district nurses and a social worker not under the mental health act any more didn't see any violence from the staff left a better person it helped me alot
The staff beat the patients shock them the staff are mental
Alan Lysaght r
Maybe they were the worst offenders
I actually prayed for Karen, i dont know why something really drew me in with the message "pray for me" on her wall, so sad. I hope you're in a better place now. Love and god bless
maya'smomhere: Broadmoor looks like it needs groundskeepers (@31:53) to neaten up around the brick buildings, which are wonderfully classically beautiful...surely some of those patients who suffer "insufficient purposeful activity" could do tasks like weeding and sweeping? Caring for the grounds and trees is certainly worthwhile work and could quite possibly be considered actual rehabilitative job training. Surely some patients could be trusted with pruning equipment for a few supervised hours, not to mention leaf rakes, brooms, dust pans... give them something to DO (besides waiting!) and then to see, to appreciate, the results of that DOing... pride in one's work, a visual reward and recognized value of a persons time & labor, a sense of belonging... all good stuff! Love, anonymousmom
Crazy to know someone in my class used to live very close to broadmoor - one time the alarm went off (he was very young back then) and when the police caught the person who escaped - they were behind his house. It's so scary and it gives me goosebumps.
It was probably Jimmy Saville out for a stroll
I remember once the siren went off we were Sent home on the bus... there was a time outside of the once a week tests the siren went off all the time.. joys of a school near by.
I wonder did he ever think why he escaped, the answer is in this documentary, and he was scared for himself
Broadmoor housed an insane Civil War Doctor who helped Prof. James Murray create the Oxford Dictionary. Dr. W. C. Minor was his name...read "The Professor and The Madman" by Simon Winchester. Great read !
@ The referred feud is the USA's Civil War 1861-1865...1642-1651 summarizes the overall span of England's series of Civil Wars. Plz do correct me if I'm wrong...so many years, so many wars, so little times.
And indeed he did, get to lookin' mighty friggin' old ! love, anonymousmom
I used to go to Edgbarrow School which had massive grounds and eventually the grounds lead on to Broadmoor .. there were many escapes when I attended Edgbarrow and when they did escape we were supposed to be picked up by our parents from school in those days not every parent had two cars , so the irony was we had to walk to our nearest bus stop which was quite away away wait half an hour an hour or so for a bus to take us home by that time we could’ve all been murdered we just took it so lightly because it seemed everybody else took it so lightly … yet we would’ve been safer staying in the school.
Not enough psychologists but too many walls :( this is so sad...it's a hospital not a prison
It IS a prison though.
Prison...
Hospital, run by Prison Officers, behind closed doors.
Unless thry're trained in how to treat patients with mental health issues you can't really blame them if they treat them the same as inmates.
It’s not run by prison officers it’s run by medical staff who are doctors and nurses.
Don’t ever tell a mentally ill person to “calm down….” They will do the exact opposite and flip out! (As I would.) I have personally seen how mentally ill patients get treated (by some) and it’s often hard to watch how they get spoken to. Empathy is necessary to work in that field. Many lack empathy. It’s unfortunate.
Am autistic and can confirm. Tell me to calm down and I'll get angry
@@salijayehinsen2892 same. Being on the spectrum makes me hyper aware of when people are being just plain MEAN. Working in the mental health field takes a special type of person. One with a heart & someone that actually cares.
I was at Broadmoor for 4 an half years and it was a good place to help me with my issues. I had thrown puppies on the railway tracks back in 1994 as i was hearing voices telling me i needed to or the house would collapse because of the devil. I have only relapsed 5 times since and am now happily married with a management role at Tesco express, so the place was pretty good
cool story bro.
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Glad they didn't keep u there forever, and glad ure better now🙂
I’m American and Princess Diana was very beloved over here as well. She was my hero growing up. I looked up to her. She was lovely,poised and down to earth. Wish she was still around we can use her kind heart right now in the world. RIP Princess Diana 🌹
She liked black men
They really need to put the date of when these videos were made.
I assume they made it sometime between 2000-2002 since it says in description the original broadcast was in 2002
Dam I feel like a fool now that I forgot to read it in the description.
We've all been there
Check out the update documentaries - 2014 they are a MUCH better watch. Much more accurate and detailed, this is 2002
Try one of those search engine thingamagigs.
They should have just gave Jimmy savile the keys.. Oh...wait , THEY DID
Graeme Mcvie I like that very funny 😀😀😀😀
Jimmeys INNOCENT !! 🇯🇵✌
@@chadbundy4156 are you stupid?
@@chadbundy4156 r u on spice?
Strange how they didn't show the monster Savile visiting the patients and mentioning he had his own keys given by the troy thatcher era.
Wow
Franca Perotti . As a kid I never liked Seville. I always thought he was a bit weird. An odd job.
Savile isn't the only pedophile who was in the TV business. He just got caught. There are many more still in TV, movies, and politics. The people making this documentary probably want everyone to forget about Savile. However this documentary may have been made before Savile was exposed.
Brian Cuthbert - Every single human being on the planet thought that Saville was 'a bit weird. An odd job.' You're not some prescient genius.
Skindoggiedog . Not true. I knew lots of people that loved jimmy Seville. Thought he was a great guy.
How can concentrating that amount of violence and sickness in one building , be called "Therapeutic" ?
CANT THINK OF A NAME !!! It probably is to them .
Some of the terrible things that staff there have done just beggars belief. I work with extremely challenging behaviour in a small care home environment, one of the folks I look after is, for want of a better term, completely round the twist due to abuse suffered in previous institutions. They are extremely violent, can spit, lash out, scream, attack themselves and display inappropriate sexual behaviour. But when you speak to them on a good day they are sweet, chatty and very friendly. They were born with learning disabilities, but the extreme level of abuse they suffered throughout their life is what has made them so dangerous. It's absolutely heartbreaking, and I just can't understand the mentality of staff who do that to vulnerable people. Maybe it's the abusive staff that belong in Broadmoor alongside the patients..
Couldn't agree more?
Window lickers
Agree with you 100 percent.
Ummm some of the disgusting things the coughs "patients " have done you just dis regard
Agree
Broadmoor is and has been the most severe punishment and torture centre for alledged offenders and psych patients. The place is and never has been fit for purpose ! An absolute embarressment to the country.More offensive and criminal than any inmates.
Even more than the serial killers?
@@samdobie6748 yep
@@factorylad5071 Say that when some psycho pulls your family member's teeth out.
It has been said that half of patients can be released and would pose no threat to anyone.. but no one knows which half.
I am a retired nurse I spent 16 years working in asylums. I find there is a serious problem with this documentary. If a person has an acute psychotic interlude, of which have seen hundreds, when they recover, their understanding of the actual incidents which led to restraint are severely compromised and rationalised. I remember one ex Broadmoor client that explained to me how he had been deeply misunderstood and lay, he had only ,mistakenly been accused of smashing a glass into a nurses face. The man was gentle and very polite. I knew him for six years, he was always courteous and continually insisted he ddI not require treatment. After many years, one day I was called to an emergency on another ward. I walked into a room to find him with a broken snooker cue looking as dangerous as anyone could imagine, he meant to do intense harm to anyone that went near to him. I do not know what caused this as I was not involved in his treatment at that time. Later I was to meet him wel again, thanks to the efforts of the professional team involved. He still insisted he did not require treatment. He had a very rationalised memory of the incident I describe, al a misunderstanding by others. Great care is required in such circumstances and one must err on the side of protection of the public.
How many MI5 did you notice walking the wards?
@@babss2285 if you mean people deluded with ideas of M15, aliens, CIA, Jesus, etc, plenty
@@Notmehimorthem no not patients
I recently read "Mad in America" by Robert Whitaker . It's about the history of psychiatry. Not much has changed since it's beginnings, it's inhumane in all aspects.
@@anabarnes4654
Oh yes. The one on lobotomy is just HANGING.
People don't seem to realise this was broadcast in 2002. Things have changed since then. Also these are some of the most dangerous criminals in the country, who cannot be contained at a lower security hospital.
After having watched this, I am reminded of the hundreds of paedophiles who from videos on here seem not to be able to be cured from their perversions yet receive only a few months or years in prison, are released and continue to commit further crimes against children. It’s maybe better to lock these people up indefinitely in a place like Broadmoor rather than some of those seen in this documentary.
I agree!!!!!
Young was left in charge of a poison? What on Earth were they thinking? Even if they thought he was rehabilitated that was just asking for trouble.
Sounds like elite used him as a convenient patsy to do their dirty work...
I grew up on Broadmoor estate went to the primary school and was there to give Diana flowers because I was captain of Windsor at Broadmoor school
Great memory💕
The people in this video that complain about the severity of security might have a different view if one of their loved ones were a victim of these inmates. Sick they maybe but they are definitely too dangerous to roam free among the innocent public.
It's a hospital so patients not inmates which is a term used for prisoners.
Read my experience above, please. That was only some of it. I lasted 3 weeks and ran
Grow up
This was really interesting to learn about
Bastards, I hope the guilty all die slowly and screaming. They will!!!!!#
A much loved family member has epilepsy. He was put in Camarillo state Mental Hospital in California after trying to end his life. His epilepsy was just too difficult to live with, & he had it all his life. I was told my family finally got him out of that creepy place. He was treated to electrical shocjk treatments & who knows what else. The reason Camarillo is so creepy is its near the ocean & it has beautifully manicured grounds, but in the background you can see the Spanish style buildings and as you drive up to it sometimes you can hear patients crying out. Its no longer functioning, Thank God. They say that area is haunted, I believe it.
No such thing as haunted
IF INMATES ARENT SEVERELY PSYCOLOGICALLY DAMAGED WHEN THEY ARRIVE, THEY CERTAINLY WILL BE BY THE TIME THEY ESCAPE OR LEAVE IF EVER.IN A LOT OF CASES, THE STAFF ARE MORE CRIMINALLY INSANE THAN THE PATIENTS.
PLEASE STOP SHOUTING.
I CAN STILL HEAR
I am glad Sutcliffe got attacked for what he did he should be made to suffer
Finding an excuse to hurt another . Those words say a lot to a physiologist .
@@Angus1966 I felt the same when reading the comment - I’m no medical expert but student of theology.
" The Hospital does not have a Bad Record" ..EXCUSE ME!? All Hospitals have some degree of a Bad Record!
Paul Bales mental hospitals 100x so.
@@MadameRaven1 and prisons and courts and lawyers etc
they kill the paitents at watford hospital for the body parts.
..here in the states..I know these huge "mental hospitals" (as they were called back then) left a lot to be desired..but there were good ones and there were good Drs and Nurses...now so many of our mentally ill people are homeless, and living under bridges..it's so sad
Always been fascinated by Broadmoor Hospital, it's a really eerie building and the people in this hospital are notorious for the crimes they committed. Psychiatric hospitals are really interesting.
Jimy savell
Yew
@@tomlaight4066 He was one of them, I don't mean the patients
Why do schizophrenic voices always tell people to do bad things? Why don´t they tell people to be kind to strangers, be helpful, become a volunteer, etc?
mpking1374 that is a valid point 😂
Paranoia, delusions, feelings of persecution etc are all a part of the schizophrenic makeup - thus the voices a sufferer hears tend to be derogatory. It's an awful illnesses
mpking1374 They do check out HVN, Hearing Voices Network. Started in the Netherlands now has groups world wide.
Joe White. Thanks for the comment. But you don´t really answer my question except kind of state what schizophrenia is. The question is why. Why when we have schizophrenia, it turns us into a bad person, but not a good person. Is there a mental illness for hearing good voices? Is "bad" the default mode of our brain? According to Steve Parks here apparently some of them do hear "good" voices. I haven´t checked out the network he mentions yet.
may be because the "nice" ones, the ones who hear voices telling them to do good and nice things don't get in trouble with the law, don't get reported by family and friends as needing help, etc...they are "those nice people" =) Why would anyone even get checked? - Hay doc, can you check my brain, I think I may be too nice, do I have schizophrenia by any chance? - not gonna happen =)
It appears to me that the problem with Broadmoor is that it cannot decide whether it is a hospital or a prison. Is it therapeutic or criminal detention?? If it is a secure hospital, then secure it damned well needs to be, but it also needs to be functioning as a hospital, that being treating the severely mentally ill.....but the issue is that those mentally ill may well also be killers, so that is where the detention side must come in. The lines are obviously severely blurred. As a former nurse and also a mental illness sufferer, I can see it from both sides, but in terms of it supposedly being a hospital, since when did treatment and therapy involve shackles and ice water dousings??? Absolutely disgusting.
Psychic wards ARE Prisons! Try calling police from ward. Psychic Ward has power over police.
That guy when he says "the inmates...uh..I mean patients."
The prison...uh I mean mental hospital...
Most of them are inmates, crazy basterds ones as well like child killers. One escaped and by the time he was found he killed a young child riding around on a bike. They are inmates as well as patients.
Behind closed doors
Brushed under carpets
Abuse
They should be ashamed of themselves
How can they not mention the Jimmy Saville scandal?! That was nuts that he had free reign (of terror) of the place
This was recorded before it came out that saville was a nonce
This makes me so mad as a professional healthcare worker, we try our best to deal with a very complex group of clients. We have been to University and have an incredible amount of personal investment in our clients. Stop hiring managers and hire more staff. We are exhausted we know what we are doing let’s us do it with safe staffing numbers to provide to very best treatment we can.
After being institutionslised in Broadmoor for e6 years its surprising thry would then release someone. How they're then meant to be able to function in society is beyond me.
The voice they hear in they’re heads is jimmy savilles
Why u hate Jimmy savile!!
Jimmy savile is my dad
It's worth mentioning that during the time these incidents were specificed Savile had the run of the place and the idea of male and female patients living together was his idea. Savile actually got Alan Franey his job at Broadmoor as they were "close friends."
Too bad about Diana, she would have made a great Queen for the U.K. It's just a shame because she was really good at doing the job that the Royal Family of the U.K. are required to perform.
Her only Achilles heel was her taste in men, which, unwittingly led to her untimely death
Megan would be the best queen 👸🏻
What does she have to do with this place?
This place is on Par, from the outside at Least, with U.S Supermax Penitentiaries. And Judging by the last patient at the end, 36 years in Broadmore for assault on his girfreind. WTF?!?!? 1st Degree murder in the U.S is 25 years in the U.S, on the first Parole hearing on average!
It's because he would have been detained under the mental health act. When this happens you can be detained at her majesty's pleasure, which means until it is offically decided that it is safe to release you, could be next week, could be never.
It's called an indefinite sentence. Meaning there is no set time you will be realised. However the average time spent in broadmoor on an indefinite sentence is 20years.
In many institutions the staff are there longer than the patients..who's really stuck in the system?
You know, these horrendous situations sound eerily like what the police are doing in the United States. Keeping someone locked up without telling them when or how to get out, is torture. That makes people crazy. That's why you have so many problems in county jails as opposed to prison. Everyone in prison knows when they are getting out. Many people sitting in county jails do not.
that doesn't happen in the U.S. You get a release date before you are even in prison. it's on your paper work when you come in
I wonder where Adrian is today and how he is doing. One of many who should never have been incarcerated in such a place.
Worked in a forensic locked ward for 4 years, most satisfying role i had, i was never attacked, treated patients with respect and guidance works wonders
I know a guy who escaped from Broadmoor...... He's was the American President 2016.-2020.
Wow youre soooo funny
Brilliant Documentary.
They need to check the mental status of the possible employees
Please understand that spirits can attack/attach to staff as well causing staff to act out towards patients and the staff's family members...
Don't worry Broadmoor, Jim'll fix it!
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I just feel these ex patients are being “over treated” because they don’t actually belong there. If a highly highly dangerous and disturbed person reacts, immediate prevention seems kinda justifiable. But some aren’t even slightly near there that level of insanity. Hence, I feel like it really becomes a problem when an institution tries to be both a mental hospital and a place for dangerous insane criminals.
I believe the patient’s about the abuse. Like in any profession there is always a few bad apples. I think you have to be a very special person to work with these patients.
My father served in the British armed forces back in the 80s. He was on the squadron's football team and they were given the opportunity to play the team of guards at Broadmoor. I have no idea whether they won or not, but in the canteen afterwards one of my dad's teammates calls over a nurse and says "excuse me, can you please have a look at my eyes, I'm having trouble with them" the nurse says "sure", he dropped his trousers and showed her the pair of eyes tattooed on his bum cheek. That's the story of how my father, and the rest of his team, were given a lifetime ban from Britain's top security psychiatric hospital
Lauren Mortimer Haha thats quality..
Lauren Mortimer 😂😂😂😂 that's bloody hilarious omg
that is genious
Ha ha ha class!!!
Rosco Pico It's a true story. Believe whatever you wanna 🤷🏼♀️
I think that the last woman who spoke about her dead daughter, was suspicious that she had been murdered by a dangerous person and that the crime was covered up by the authorities..
She certainly didn’t seem to be suicidal that’s why. If I was her mother I would have been asking questions
I have a disorder called schizoaffective, a mix of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, and frequent psychiatric hospitals, including PICU (psychiatric intensive care units) and every hospital I've been in has assaulted others and myself, physically and sexually, and people not being allowed food etc so it's very disturbing
They also used seclusion as a punishment in every one I've been in except it's just an empty room in the ones I've been in
Im very sorry, this is truly cruel. Those places should help people get their lives back and be put back on track, instead they take advantage of the patients and their power knowing can get away with it in mental hospitals. My friend has the same diagnosis and im so worried about her. She lost her twin due to suicide and after got into a mental hospital herself, watching this doc and reading your comment makes me feel helpless realizing hospitals make it so much worse. I hope you and her will be able to live a happy and fullfilling life and not face the abuse anymore.
I find it hard to believe that they keep food from people as a punishment, these places r regulated by the government.
A good friend of mine got robbed of a gold watch
While in Broadmoor , it was a nurse that had him off,
My friend was just happy to get out of that place & back
To the prison system, he’s out now & back home.
M.W ~ Salford
The Saville chapter .......... inside broadmoor part 2 🤔
They've come so far with treatment and medication...in the 70's..we mostly had Haldol, Mellaril, Lithium..Valium..now they have so much more. ..I just think there should be housing provided for the severely mentally ill...they need care and monitoring many times...it's inhumane that they are left to fend for themselves...sometimes on the streets...or warehoused in prisons...
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Absolutely shocking, heartbreaking and disgraceful that staff treat patients so cruelly.
Places like this should regularly be investigated. Sounds like this place needs to be closed down until they find decent, caring and compassionate people to run it.
Jesus how sick the human race has become. Shame on the system, who are public servants paid by the public to protect.
I call bs - there are 400 patients treated 24/7 for like hundred years... and they present a couple of mistakes here from people in extreme situations....
most of these patients hurt, killed and victimized other innocent people... I think we went a long way from just hanging them or beat them dead, because they will never contribute to society but even destroy lives. We are spending a lot of resources on them - more than most people recieve from the government on a monthly base for years and decades.
You show me a better system instead of your deluded expectations! Can we bring them to your house? Inside your family?
And where would all the patients go when its shut down? How would that protect the public?
Please understand that spirits can attack/attach to staff as well causing staff to act out towards patients and the staff's family members...
What all of u have to understand is to a mentally ill patient, being given meds could feel like abuse to them, don't judge what you don't understand.
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you and keep doing your great work you are doing for these people
I feel like I'm watching a documentary on 19th and 20th century asylums, not the 21st century where science and psychiatry have evolved.
Shiny Emil The sciences have evolved but the psyche of the criminally insane have likewise evolved
I was assaulted by several members of staff on an acute ward (i was 14 and was on this ward after attempting to take my life countless times) this happened in 2013. Most of the staff members in these hospitals are wonderful and so supportive but others abuse their position power and hurt vulnerable people.
Psychiatry hasn’t evolved. They merely prescribe more potent drugs to try to keep their clients comfortably numb. Most of these “doctors “ have more hidden issues than the ones they claim they are treating. They’re like pedophile priests trying to point others toward Heaven when they aren’t going themselves.
It’s actually gone backwards. The whole drug therapy (anti depressants anti psychotics etc) thing is one of the most disgusting scams in human history.
Devolved, is more accurate at this point in Human History. Next to War, Whores 4 War R US just love putting Humans in Cages and Enslaving them for sick and sadistic purposes. Plus, they then charge the Public Debt for their own Private Profit Enterprises. This is Modern Day Slavery adjusted for the 21st Century!
There is a 5 star hotel in Colorado called the broadmoor, I wanted to see if this place is just as nice
I am sure all the rooms are well upholstered
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Omg them poor patients thats horrendous and should have proper training,they cant just shackle people cause they cant "deal" with them,there also abusing and neglecting them,its vile
Australia, a Childrens Ward. A 14yo intellectually delayed female restrained to bed by wrists. Bed sides up. Reason, getting out of bed and touching resuscitation equip at head of bed. 20yrs ago.
Sad sad situation!
First name Last name your creepy. Why comment such a thing on such a video. Sort yourself out. Weirdo.
Mary Reynolds agree
Mary Reynolds
Hood lum jealous it wasn’t to you ?
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Loved this! Thanks for uploading!
Kat Cetera What did you love about it?
There’s a better one ☝️ and it’s longer as well I found that one more interesting
How can you LOVE or enjoy something as shocking and evil as this? You need to wake up. .
This is sooooo sad!
Punish me for not leaving my room by making me stay in my room.
And the patient is the one whose mental health is in question.
So sad how we catagorize, stigmatize and imprison the mentally ill. They need real help. Cutting them off in a bleak, sometimes abusive environment will ensure they will become more violent. Not less.
Umm so we just let em roam free ?
So what do u suggest is done with them? They r in the most secure place their is, and it's more humane than most!!
Where has the idea of building more hospitals like this come from?
Should have cameras everywhere in this place
SQUONK ! Sadly the only "nurses" willing to work there ,are the kind of people that should not be allowed any place near there.