How I Defeated the Worst Debuff in Victoria 2: Netherlands Victoria 2 A to Z

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  • @Vmac1394
    @Vmac1394 2 года назад +175

    Tbh colonialism in the 19th century largely lost money rather than made it. That's something that Victoria 2 gets very wrong. The only place Britain had a net gain from colonialism was in India, everywhere else it was a money sink.

    • @groomschild1617
      @groomschild1617 2 года назад +95

      the thing is colonialism is great for the private sector ie. corporations and the rich. The nation paid all the expense like military and enforcing law and order while the corporations had free reign to exploit the population.
      in game the factories(private sector) are being fed by the resources from the colonies and that what makes colonies profitable.

    • @jeebusthegreat8819
      @jeebusthegreat8819 2 года назад +30

      what a stupid take, colonies in Britain were extremely profitable for private companies but not for the government

    • @Rynewulf
      @Rynewulf Год назад +14

      @@jeebusthegreat8819 so yeah, a pretty bad deal and economically good that we stopped wasting resources on it

    • @Raadpensionaris
      @Raadpensionaris Год назад +24

      The Dutch East Indies were also very profitable

    • @your-mom-irl
      @your-mom-irl Год назад +12

      @@Rynewulf cope. Your empire was taken from you by the Americans, not given up on by some enlightened imperial bureaucrat. You lost

  • @justineo5529
    @justineo5529 2 года назад +50

    In this game, the Netherlands are unable to take clay from the ocean. Instead they took clay from the closest blue thing, France.

  • @tribblier
    @tribblier 2 года назад +197

    Taxing only the poor is not a good strategy, you are decreasing the demand for goods which will make factories less profitable and decrease the rate at which pops change role. The rich are useless and basically only exist to consume (which the poor do better) and to build factories (which weren't needed as their were not unemployed). Taxing the rich as much as possible to reduce the burden on the others will have a greater positive impact.
    My late game Greater Mexico to Patricia Grande to South American Union is 100,0,0 taxes and -40% tarrifls.

    • @mytiliss682
      @mytiliss682 2 года назад

      Negative tarrifs don't make sense when you have so much resources, you barely import anything. Better leave them on 100% and subsidize factories.

    • @j.murphy4884
      @j.murphy4884 2 года назад +14

      Tariffs should never be lower than 0%, subsiding is wasting money.

    • @duskpede5146
      @duskpede5146 2 года назад +58

      @@j.murphy4884 this is what people get wrong about the economy, money doesn't matter. if you can fund your army and education it does not matter at all whether you are making 20 pounds profit or 20,000 pounds profit.

    • @redwillrise
      @redwillrise 2 года назад +46

      @@duskpede5146 it always pays to have reserves, since the price of goods can vary wildly and you might have to subsidize factories sometimes. Late game years-long wars can get ridiculously expensive and you need millions in the bank if you want to fund your army 100%. You'll never get that kind of reserve with 20£ a day

    • @spuduccinoo
      @spuduccinoo 2 года назад +10

      Rich people also consume steam transports just like real life so yeah Frick those guys. I hope vic 3 makes laissez-faire better.

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 2 года назад +61

    Don't feel too bad about missing that event. The whole..."thing" with these PDX grand strategy games is that you'll be learning new things about them 2000 hours in! It's why we're all so addicted!

  • @jansatamme6521
    @jansatamme6521 2 года назад +136

    3.6m soldiers for germany who hasnt lost ww1 and has morbilized in 1931 is pretty realistic

    • @ellidominusser1138
      @ellidominusser1138 2 года назад +41

      its morbing time

    • @thegamingraven1691
      @thegamingraven1691 2 года назад +19

      Morbiliized...

    • @pieceofschmidtgamer
      @pieceofschmidtgamer 2 года назад

      *"morbilized"*
      1) ruclips.net/video/eJrlezLvWnU/видео.html
      2) ruclips.net/video/Otm4RusESNU/видео.html

    • @Atajew
      @Atajew 2 года назад +20

      It's morbilization time

    • @johnsteampunk6408
      @johnsteampunk6408 2 года назад +13

      I liked when Kaiser Morbhilm said "It'd Morbin time"

  • @Joostmhw
    @Joostmhw 2 года назад +23

    To be fair, it was the Dutch who built those factories, many owners moved into Belgium after its independence

  • @DKforever24
    @DKforever24 2 года назад +13

    It is pretty clear he has never looked at the trade tab to check out the world supply/demand. I have also noticed that if you are building a bunch of forts while also trying to build a bunch of artillery brigades, the world supply just can't keep up with that much demand because of the fact that forts require a bunch of artillery to build/upgrade. I also believe the game fulfills demand based on the order in which the buttons were clicked. For instance, if you pause the game, then click to upgrade like 50 forts around your country, then click to build 20 artillery brigades, the game will supply the needs of the forts before the brigades simply because you built the forts first. I believe you can do this to manipulate market prices as well, because the value of artillery skyrocketed due to the sudden high demand.

  • @dntytbr
    @dntytbr 2 года назад +43

    Tip: if you spam the subdise button gives so much relationship with the nation, 9 diplomacy points = 180++ relation

  • @fatopato3681
    @fatopato3681 2 года назад +148

    Bro pls make a banat video i need it

  • @balazsszalai2714
    @balazsszalai2714 2 года назад +19

    You can ally with the UK at the very start of the game and they will help you to annex Belgium

  • @JohnSmith-kb4re
    @JohnSmith-kb4re 2 года назад +4

    "Because guess what, every Marvel movie is the same."
    Mister Strategy Games Telmatology is being based as usual I see

  • @bananaman2556
    @bananaman2556 2 года назад +9

    "I hate france" said like a true dutch person, well done. (ofcourse a joke)

  • @venezuelaanimations3732
    @venezuelaanimations3732 Год назад +4

    Glad to see you're still out making great content as always ❤

  • @Riotdrone
    @Riotdrone 2 года назад +4

    you should make a guide video, i'd love to hear your opinion on optimal factories strategy

  • @oneoflast7757
    @oneoflast7757 2 года назад +5

    Love the mic, when’s the next stream? I need my map game ASMR!

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 года назад +3

      I will stream whenever I can but rn I am super busy

  • @joraninator
    @joraninator 4 месяца назад +1

    7:25 based

  • @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes
    @CraftsmanOfAwsomenes 2 года назад +2

    Considering Bone is also spelled Boni I am going to go out on a limb and say it’s probably Bon-eh and the weirdass thing English does with silent Es modifying earlier vowels doesn’t exist in transliterated Buginese.
    Flanders kept cores because it’s a real region with a history whereas in this world Belgium had existed for a collective year or two before getting crushed.

  • @Magnus181
    @Magnus181 Год назад +2

    GFM loves high infamy for little acquisitions that aren't worth it. In a Russia game, I ignored all of central asia to focus on more useful ways to spend it.

  • @rowsbros6130
    @rowsbros6130 2 года назад

    Aw man I was in class when this was uploaded. Been loving the new mic! much clearer and quieter than the old one

  • @Artur-qq1ef6zm1l
    @Artur-qq1ef6zm1l 2 года назад +10

    not a very optimistic ending! you have won many battles, but your country is very exhausted from the war and the aggressiveness of the population is very high

    • @walker1tnranger
      @walker1tnranger 2 года назад +1

      Dutch October incoming

    • @Artur-qq1ef6zm1l
      @Artur-qq1ef6zm1l 2 года назад

      @@walker1tnranger long live the revolution! down with imperialism!

  • @ternence8818
    @ternence8818 5 месяцев назад

    04:20 you just discovered one of the reason Belgium wanted to succeed in the first place

  • @honeysauce5244
    @honeysauce5244 Год назад

    In the age of enlightenment mod you can form the anglo Dutch union and i was basically able to get half the word because of how powerful it can be considering the colonial opportunities

  • @TheDarkFireBlazes
    @TheDarkFireBlazes 2 года назад +1

    try and resign and go back to your game to fix the supply issues more in the later game. happens to me, i just reload, and its usually fixed (16:12)

  • @stefaneduard8354
    @stefaneduard8354 2 года назад

    Congratulation for 12k subscribers!!

  • @Gremph
    @Gremph 2 года назад +1

    Good video as always!

  • @Arbiter099
    @Arbiter099 2 года назад

    the "interesting" nation caveat seems counterintuitive to the A-Z theme, at least in the sense of ISP HOI A-Z.

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 2 года назад

    Hmm yes lore of Vic 2 Benelux momentum 100

  • @davesbibliotheca6107
    @davesbibliotheca6107 25 дней назад +1

    I wouldn't call it occupying, Belgium belongs to the Dutch 👍

  • @nono_Hoi4
    @nono_Hoi4 2 года назад

    ''worst debuff since the soviet army debuff''
    Chinas army debuff in hoi4: What about ME

  • @Arti_Novideos
    @Arti_Novideos 2 года назад

    Another great vid, i love this series

  • @rodox2832
    @rodox2832 2 года назад

    We don't want Barbant, we want BANAT!!

  • @jaydensouth4502
    @jaydensouth4502 2 года назад +1

    Got back my account lets gooo

  • @phatogdaphantom7495
    @phatogdaphantom7495 2 года назад

    I believe that in a past comment I told you to ally the brits to fight belgium. Not joking, they WILL join your side in the war.

  • @rdsh3434
    @rdsh3434 Год назад

    You should uptade your GFM version

  • @DieselMech
    @DieselMech Год назад

    in this game I've learned that STG hates the british and the french.

  • @TheFriendlyPole
    @TheFriendlyPole 2 года назад +1

    nice new mic I wonder who donated for it

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 года назад

      Thank you so much!

  • @dominikmol905
    @dominikmol905 2 года назад

    The new microphone is a lot better on the ear

  • @tamansingh9618
    @tamansingh9618 Год назад

    Hey just a pro top for Netherlands starting war with that indonesian minor Aceh, just use your ships in the conoly to blokade them and theyll surrender. Its way easier than to let your troops die of attrittion in the indonesian jungle

  • @sovietmeatball6931
    @sovietmeatball6931 2 года назад

    You can form an alliance with the uk then declare on Belgium while calling them in

  • @Papamikkk
    @Papamikkk 2 года назад +3

    Bro why do you sound like saul Goodman?

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 года назад +1

      Did you know that you have rights?

  • @decem_sagittae
    @decem_sagittae Год назад

    Bro I rly enjoy your A to Z series but why do you keep saying "cassius belli" instead of "casus belli"?

  • @georgezhellas1
    @georgezhellas1 Год назад

    Still waiting for the ottoman empire video🥺

  • @comradenorwegian4904
    @comradenorwegian4904 2 года назад +1

    Father. i crave banat video. i beg of you

  • @donjuanmckenzie4897
    @donjuanmckenzie4897 4 месяца назад

    Do people understand that you can just stockpile any given good when your units or buildings are stuck in the que to get them built fast?

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 месяца назад

      You can but they do not always exist to buy, so that only works sometimes.

    • @donjuanmckenzie4897
      @donjuanmckenzie4897 2 месяца назад

      @@SGT i find it works every time

  • @TheOwneroftheIC
    @TheOwneroftheIC Год назад +2

    "It should just be called 'Colonial Exploitation: The Game'. And that is Victoria games in a nutshell." Meanwhile you can't exploit your colonies in Victoria 3, in fact, you can barely colonize.

  • @dakotaohayo1082
    @dakotaohayo1082 2 года назад +1

    Pls do a banat video

  • @RMS_Oceanic
    @RMS_Oceanic 2 года назад

    Neutral Moresnet is next!

  • @JordanHh
    @JordanHh 2 года назад

    Hey I'm kinda new and have a question, in vanilla at least you can change the netherlands party to whatever you want with their gov type and I always choose reactionary which seemingly gives me the most control over my country. In this run are you forced to be the liberal party or did you optionally choose them and why?

    • @42carlos
      @42carlos Год назад

      yeah in gfm it's a democracy and you can't switch parties. but you do have a point, if you can, choose reactionary in the early game. not only do you get the most control (building factories, taxing, tariffs) but the militancy from events often means you can get reforms just as fast as with any other party. i may be wrong but it seems you actually don't mind militancy as long as it comes from political unsatisfaction rather than simple ethnic uprisings like you'd have in the ottoman empire. so just go reactionary and mostly go for the event options that increase militancy. in late game you can afford to go liberal since 1) you won't need to tariff, tax or build factories yourself 2) you wanna avoid militancy since you probably have all the reforms you could use to lower it

  • @jayfreechavez0000
    @jayfreechavez0000 3 месяца назад

    ❤❤❤❤

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed

  • @nukesploder
    @nukesploder 2 года назад +1

    @20:30, why is albania brown??

  • @401craft6
    @401craft6 2 года назад

    9:47 Colombian liberation of Grao-Pra
    Why the h*ck Colombia had cores on that?

  • @xanfortunato
    @xanfortunato 2 года назад

    Do Persia and Siam!

  • @m136dalie
    @m136dalie Год назад

    Nobody noticed China westernised and was #1 GP at the end?

  • @amruzaky4939
    @amruzaky4939 2 года назад

    I sphered Netherland in my game and it destroys my economy.

  • @T.Hebert
    @T.Hebert 2 года назад +1

    What mods do you use?

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 года назад

      GFM

  • @KB_Man
    @KB_Man 2 года назад

    Finally

  • @maxwalker1159
    @maxwalker1159 2 года назад +1

    !

  • @user-zp9nf5qo8j
    @user-zp9nf5qo8j Год назад

    I got this debuff and then I stopped playing

  • @theprezydent6250
    @theprezydent6250 2 года назад +1

    Banat?🥺

  • @antonfox8217
    @antonfox8217 2 года назад +1

    Hey what's your PC components ?

    • @SGT
      @SGT  2 года назад

      Ryzen 3600x, nvidia 2060 super, 32 gb ram

    • @antonfox8217
      @antonfox8217 2 года назад

      @@SGT ho ok, thansk

  • @scrumptiousbee1032
    @scrumptiousbee1032 2 года назад

    Xhosa

  • @thebiggestgloom
    @thebiggestgloom 2 года назад +1

    Banat please? 🥺🥺

  • @pja6476
    @pja6476 2 года назад

    Please brother drop the Reddit tier jokes I am begging you.

  • @pacobracken9407
    @pacobracken9407 Год назад

    do you remember me?

  • @jaydensouth4502
    @jaydensouth4502 2 года назад +1

    Its sad that you have to say in the game every minute people need to learn to take a joke

  • @painsorrow3062
    @painsorrow3062 Год назад

    you need to stop smacking your lips together
    great vids tho!

  • @VivaChandles
    @VivaChandles 2 года назад +1

    Br*tish 🤮