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With all the things going on in the world and in this country for morons to think that gas stoves are somehow and existential threat proves without a doubt that nobody should ever listen to anything that comes out of your pie-hole.
Another tip, use an air purifier in tight spaces or kitchens with no windows or external exhaust fans. Just make sure it's rated for gaseous pollutants and not just solid particles.
No matter what type of stove we all end up using, what we really should strive to regulate is the abilibity of good ventilation on apartments building. Way too many houses and apartments don't have even operable windows.
If health is the concern, we're concentrating on the wrong things. For instance, here we have a 20 something who is easily 30lbs overweight fretting over the type of stove she has, instead of the fact that she probably lives on take-out and never uses the damn thing anyway.
Not so much (of a careful approach here). Methane and natural gases are leaking through valves etc., but propane does not (leak at all?). When a gaseous fuel is leaking it usually leads to an explosion. But hey, I totally understand the nuclear power industry lobbying for electric stoves. 🙃
So a few BIG details glossed over towards the end. If you use indoor propane you must still ventilate. It breaks down into a lot of more CO1 compared to CO2 relative to most other common gasses (It's the main reason why camping stoves have big "DO NOT USE INDOORS" stickers on them). So yes, it is a choice but you still need to have a good vent system or a window with a fan. I also highly recommend a CO1 detector near the kitchen. The other concern is using induction stoves with pans that contain Teflon coating. The coating wears out much faster on induction stoves compared to regular coil tops. In short, no matter your choice stick with stainless or cast iron (I still like my "older than me" copper bottoms for gas though) and open a window/vent then you have very little to be worried about.
It would be nice if the typical microwave exhaust fan actually worked well. You can feel the heat above the fan that did not get exhausted. Even the oven don't exhaust a 100%. The bigger and dedicated fan hoods are good.
I had the opportunity to replace my gas stove with an induction one a few years ago. I found it so much better in many ways compared to my old gas stove: - Very easy to control temperature - It heats up the contents of the pots quicker than any other cooking method and that is probably because it's so efficient - Kitchen itself doesn´t heat up as much, since most energy ends up in the pot and the contents - No open flames, so no fire hazard - Surface doesn´t get as hot as compared to a conventional electric stove, so much easier to clean afterwards - Surface is completely flat, so when not using it for cooking, you can use it to prepare the food instead - Easy to keep food 'warm' without burning it for longer times Of course it has the downside that it can take some time to get used to it and it doesn´t work during a power outage, but so do some modern gas stoves as those are sometimes electrically controlled. It also needs a beefy electrical connection. I can highly recommend a video from Technology Connections: ruclips.net/video/CVLLNjSLJTQ/видео.html
@@jamieayres8030 Not great. About the same as a standard gas stove. A wok needs a proper wok cradle to heat the sides and cook properly anyway, most gas stoves can't heat them evenly enough.
I use NuWave induction hobs, I can adjust the wattage to under 600 watts which means I can use it with my Goal Zero Yeti 1000x power station that I can solar charge the power station and cook without house current. Used it in the last 3 day power outage.... advantage of induction hob over induction stoves.
I really wish it was a building code standard that you have to require ventilation in kitchens that is evacuated outdoors. So many apartments and homes will have an over stove fan, but all it does is suck the fumes from the cooktop and blast it over your head. It doesn't remove the contaminants from your home at all. If anything it spreads it more quickly around the space! Even if you had an electric stove, who wants cooking smell all over your home (especially if you're me and often burn things)!
There are "adapters" for induction stoves for you to use your favorite pans. Basically it's a metal plate with a handle, which works with induction. Then you put your pan on top and that means you can use any pan. Obviously not as efficient as if your pan already works, but it's a nice workaround
Not recommended. Apart from spending money to keep some cheap pans working (good ones often can be used directly), those plates can heat up too much if they can’t transfer the heat well or fast enough to the pan - for example, when either isn’t 100% flat. This may damage the induction stove, even crack the glass plate.
@@Erik-pu4mj "phase out older pans"... hahahaha... I'll be BURIED with my cast iron! You can't beat 'em. Save your money up and invest THERE... SEASON the damn things, and you'll never look back. Sure, it takes a little time and practice to get used to it... BUT once you've worked with ONE properly seasoned cast iron pot or skillet... or wok... you'll throw the scrubs, specialty detergents, and paint-chippy teflon BLASPHEMY away. Do you know how I clean my wok 9 out of 10 times when I cook with it? I wipe it with a paper towel and put it RIGHT BACK ON THE STOVE... that's it. ONCE IN A WHILE, I actually get something sticky or saucy and give it a rinsing off and a "once over with a cloth"... AND that's the HARDEST I EVER WORK at cleaning the damn thing... I haven't scrubbed a pot, pan, skillet, or oven tray since I started cooking with cast iron. NOT EVEN ONCE... The pioneers said it was good enough, and they didn't even HAVE ANY SOAP to spare for cleaning the cookware. You could rinse it off in the nearest river (maybe)... if there was a river nearby... BUT largely, you could only spare a rag or even a wad of grass to scour off "the worst of it" and pack it away for the day... Cast Iron is one of the oldest reliable forms of cookware, and it's STILL the top performer for the lazy home cook. It takes almost NOTHING to keep up a set once you've got them. They'll last you the rest of your life, and can likely become heirlooms for your kids and grandkids. I have pots, a kettle, and a couple skillets that are probably 200+ years old... still working as well as any pan on the market. ;o)
I’ve been cooking on an induction stove for about two years now and I’m very content with it, especially with the fact it reacts so quickly to changes in the setting. Plus stove is incredibly easy to clean.
For me the downside of induction is that you can't use woks with them effectively, and a wok is by far my favorite cooking tool. Way more versatile than any kind of pan or skillet.
@@Antenox You actually can but it takes an induction stove that's designed for a wok specifically. Instead of a flat surface they have an curved indented surface for the wok to go into so it'll not only heat the bottom of the wok but also the sides.
@@Enclave. Yeah, I know, but the fact that it's such a specific thing means that it'll be expensive, hard to find, less performant, or all of the above.
speaking as a chief induction is far superior to even flame based stoves. Its precise and you can use what's called the ' tip effect' where you only place a small corner of a tilted pan and cause it to have two zones of heat, thus basing a scallop works much better. (edit thanks I meant the guy who cooks not the guy who leads)
What stove are you using and what kind of pans? For me induction feels more ruff. No easy to find the sweet spot and the heating in bursts is really annoying. For sensible foods you can even see the coil pattern on the food. Heat is also more centert in the pan and less on the edges. Would really like to compare the hardware.
@@RandomBlackBox woa how u seeing the coil pattern lol. Gotta keep stuff moving an stir that shii. Trusting that Teflon too much. Gonna pull a chunk off on the bottom of your chicken one day lol
I've been around a gas stove for most of my life, and although I don't know about all this stuff, it is incredibly useful since I lived in an area where the power frequently goes out, meaning we could still cook food even though we didn't have power for a week at a time sometimes.
Your air quality is probably pretty good if you are out in a rural area. The biggest problems are for people with gas stoves in a small home in a city with other air pollution issues. Opening the window isn't such a great option when you live next to a freeway.
@@jenrydelacruz9062 The filter only removes heavy oils. Unfortunately, all the hazardous compounds like CO, formaldehyde, benzene are so incredibly tiny that they will pass right through that filter.
@@Dryblack1 Unfortunately this situation is very common in multi-tenant dwellings like apartments and condos. Its either because there is no physical access to the roof, or it is costly to install and maintain such a vent that may need to run for a long distance through several stories of the apartment complex. Yes, an exhaust vent that blows back in your face has very little effect on the most hazardous compounds released from natural gas ranges. 😥
@@gyrgrls this joke is so old.... you might say it is over the hill im sorry king, but, i gotta be strictland cut you off before this blows up.....luanne
Many MANY people live places where outages are so rare and brief it doesn't matter. 68% of Americans use electrical today and seem to survive it. But if you're really worried because your states infrastructure is that bad, get an inverter/UPS. Or just have an outage-sandwich. It also sucks when literal poison leaks into your home.
Induction stoves are really impressive. Kudos to whomever came up with that idea. Unfortunately, lots of non-stick cookware is made from aluminum, which doesn't work with one. But, as long as a person is aware of that when buying their cookware, they can definitely get the appropriate stuff they need to make an induction stove work.
Lots of new aluminium cookware comes now with an iron plate embedded to be compatible with induction, and there are also plates designed to make normal pans into induction compatible ones
I'm a plumber, and yeah, if you have a gas system, you probably have leaks. Like 90% of the time we test a system it will fail... good for business tho
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I always hear "but power outages!" as the main reason to keep gas. We have a gas stove and frequent power outages. It's really not as useful as people imagine. A few years ago, we bought a generator. It's waaaayyy better. We can run heat/AC, heat water, run the freezer, charge phones, etc. for a few hours then switch off to save fuel. Or share with the neighbor. We are getting a new stovetop as soon as our budget allows. Also, shout-out to Alec from Technology Connections and his experiments/videos on stove types and CO2.
I agree and think it's silly to rely on a gas stove for cooking in case of a power outage anyway. If emergency preparedness is the goal, MREs and water is probably a way more reliable option and can even make hot food from the self heaters. Or freeze-dried backpacking meals which can be cold soaked if you don't have a camp stove to use for heating water. And obviously a generator is going to go a lot further in that regard but having a no-power solution on hand is good and I wouldn't trust gas lines to remain functional in an emergency situation i.e. unexpected freezing temps.
If frequent/long power outages are a major factor in your decision process for buying a stove, either reconsider whether it's actually that bad OR take to the streets to protest your terrible power grid.
Power outages are just one of the downsides of electric everything. Copper, cobalt, gallium. mercury, lithium, and dozens of so-called rare earth metals go into the circuit boards and wiring for those clean appliances, much of it strip-mined by workers in conditions that would have to improve to be called hazardous, many of said mine workers being children. Many of these metals come from nations under control of repressive or puppet governments, much of it sourced from or channeled through Russia, China, and other international pariah states. Nothing says _environmentally, humanitarianly, and geopolitically bankrupt_ like the current total-electric fad.
My dad got a generator just to run the freezer since he freezes so much of the stuff he grows. Blueberries, corn, squash, beans, etc can all be frozen quite easily, but will spoil after a few days of no power. He doesn't use it often, usually after the power has been out for a few hours already to give it a bit of a boost, and turns it off overnight. I've cooked on my mom's woodstove when the power went out, and that was the most practical for cold stormy climates (Canada) because it heats the house, and is fine to cook on. But it's not good if you're like me an have allergies. I have enough things that don't need to be heated that I can eat, so I didn't mind when the power went out in my place.
Here in Germany, induction stoves are pretty much the standard and have been for years. It's only if I go to a much older kitchen or so that I'll see anything else.
@@ArgoIo There are also electric ceramic stoves which are cheaper than induction stoves and also quite popular. I prefer them to induction stoves, as I can't cook on the induction stove properly... The food while hot during cooking becomes cold very fast...
I really appreciate this post. I live in a condominium with hot water heater and range setup for gas. I do not have the option of external range venting. I’ve asked a number of electricians about switching to all electric and the reality is that it would require extensive remedial work, requiring X-rays of concrete subfloors on multiple levels and gutting and rewiring my unit, and covering liabilities with additional insurance. I’ve started using individual induction cooktops and countertop ovens as much as possible, and opening a window when I cook with gas. Not perfect but it’s better and what I can afford
There are renter laws that require work be done to make a space "livable" in regards to primary cooking, heating, plumbing, entry, etc. I would love to see a future where ventilation is taken into account in that. But yeah, induction hotplates are nice while we wait lol.
I mostly find it how remarkable how obsessively some people cling to gas stoves and are straight up offended that anyone could say ANYTHING bad about them. People get territorial over the weirdest things.
The people who ‘cling’ to gas predominantly are the ones who do all the cooking in the household. Gas is like having a pair of Nikes on while running a race, electric is like going barefoot. Doable but painful and slower.
@@DaSteak12 Some people don't seem to understand the difference between a conventional electric stove versus an induction stove. While they both work on electricity, the way how they work is very different. People who say that a gas stove is "superior" either never tried an actual induction stove or have very specific / niche use cases. Induction is more efficient and faster than gas.
@@DaSteak12 Except induction works better for 99% of applications in the kitchen. The people who cling to gas usually aren't even the people using it for the right reasons, like extensive wok cooking. And in those cases you can always keep a portable gas burner so you aren't using it when it's not needed. It's just older people that refuse to change with the times.
@@Aristo12 well than I will amend my analogy. Induction is like using nikes that are studded with diamonds. Flashy and expensive compared to the same performance from gas
I live in metro-Detroit. A major metropolitan area with almost half the state of michigan living in it. I have had countless times in my life where the power has been out longer than 24 hours. Never has the gas went out. Until that changes, I'll never switch away from the only reliable option for a very real problem millions have.
Live in the country. Switched to convection stove top / electric oven over 20 years ago...and also electric central heat. For cooking, with a convection stove top, you can actually set exact temps using about half the power. It is also instant on off. When my power goes out, my generator will easily run it. I paid $60 for my latest double burner convection about 5 years ago on amazon. I use my coil top electric oven ..for the oven about twice a year. Since I have convection toaster oven and air fryer. For central heat, you immediately notice that the air is not dried out nearly as much as burning natural gas which I had for the first 50 years of my life. No more sinus problems also stopped having propane or NG headaches....which comes from burning up all the oxy in the room. This is a no brainer. I use propane for my outdoor grill. ...because outdoors.
I don't get why everyone talks about power outages that much, are they that frequent in the us? I can't recall the last time I've had one that lasted more than 10 seconds in France and the electric company strikes all the goddamn time
I live in the country and my electricity supply is unreliable. We're the last power pole in the line (ie we're not on a loop) so voltage variations are huge, we get brown-outs regularly and any fault ANYWHERE along the line stuffs up our supply. When there is an outage (storms, trees or poles down, lightning ground strikes), the electric company does nothing until they get other complaints (usually late I the day when everyone comes back from work/school) that allow them to work out where the fault is. Otherwise they have to deploy a helicopter ...
@@Wyvernnnn thats cuz you french were smart enough to invest in nuclear energy and us dumb americans have some faulty ass woefully inadequate grids just waiting to shut off when a strong solar storm hits
@@Wyvernnnn For the vast majority of Americans, it's not a common occurrence. Statistics show that it's 2-8 hours a year per customer on average. Even if you do end up losing power for several days in a row multiple times a year, there are work arounds that are better than heating your home with the gas stove or going without food. The original comment mentioned one of the alternatives. Also, lmao.
@@AE_AnarchistAlexcianEmpire69Bi There's a lot of money being spent trying to lobby to keep new construction wired to gas by default for heating purposes (90% of the consumption comes from heat, stoves are negligible). But they fear that the stove is the gateway to your heating system. They fear that architects will skip rigging pipes in your walls and prefer heat pumps if they don't need to do it for the stove already. And conservative media is more than glad to take some of that lobbying cash to turn the debate into a partisan issue. And with poor media literacy, the problem is it's working. People are biting very hard into the campaigns, and you see it in the youtube comments. That's why it's never the brightest dudes opposing it
As an asthmatic I HIGHLY recommend an induction stove (I’ve lived with gas stoves as well). I also recommend a ventilation system (HRV) in your house if you do own and can control that. Also see Climate Town’s video on the gas industry propaganda around gas stoves.
Seeing a lot of that seems so strange to me. It looks like in the USA, people use electric for heat, and gas for cooking, where in Canada, most of us grew up with, and many still have, gas for heat (slowly switching to heat pumps, although they still don't work below -20C), and electric for cooking. Or if you're really old school, wood for both. I was camping one time and made pancakes on a lovely wood cookstove, that I didn't even realize were still being made, although they get too hot in summer. Like I have propane for heat, a fireplace that uses it instead of getting my house full of wood and all the bugs that live in it, but I don't cook with it. When the power goes out, I just eat cold stuff or things preserved by canning. Which is the one issue I have with induction, I haven't found an induction compatible water bath canner. But that's okay, most people I know use a single burner for canning anyway due to how large canners are.
Thanks so much @kaytobe for recommending Climate Town's videos! They are awesome. I'm watching one called "It's time to break up with our gas stoves". Funny, accurate...and should be going viral. But it isn't. Spread these types of videos everyone. Avoid the naysayers in comments and just keep liking, subscribing and _sharing_ videos like these.
@@Jack_Russell_Brown Unless you have a generator, which everyone who lives in vulnerable places should. I used to live in SEAsia and we got a generator for the times when the power went down.
@@Jack_Russell_Brown Can't speak for everyone, but the last time my parents had a power outage, their gas stove didn't work either. I assume something in the ignition system is electric. Granted, they're more likely to have an outage due to an earthquake than for any other reason, and maybe they should just leave the flammable gases alone in that situation...
I remember being amazed by my grandparents induction stove. They got one maybe 12-15 years ago, and when they put a paper towel under the pot to catch any spills, I was confused and amazed! I wouldn't mind getting one when I get a new range. I currently have a compact size one with a standard glass top surface for easy cleaning. But the oven isn't big enough to bake a dozen cookies in unless I use two cookie sheets, so I'll get a full one someday, and I like the induction ones, even if it means getting a couple new pots.
Part of this problem is that most people *do not have proper ventilation for cooking* Edit: commented this before she mentioned it in the video. This is just a major observation that I’ve had for a while.
I don't think building codes are universal across all states but where I live you can't have a gas stove without adequate ventilation. It used to be something like 24" above the cooking surface, a minimum of 220cfm, must be exhausted out of the home and away from windows. The higher it's mounted from the surface the stronger fan you need. If you hold a tissue up to your running exhaust fan and it barely moves, you have a problem and shouldn't be using gas. Manually turn off all appliance gas valves and check your meter. If you see any flow call the gas company because, not only are you wasting gas, but the indoor pollution and risk of fire is too great.
The big problem with my new induction portable cooktop is that it generates a loud 21KHz electric whine which causes my cat to go running -- a spectrum analyzer app on my phone confirmed it.
From what I understand, There are two reasons: 1. Your induction stove itself is on the cheap side. The ones that go on-off-on-off when you go to a lower power instead of actually lowering the power. 2: You have thinner or cheaper induction cookware. The heavier or more dense you cookware (base) is, the less you hear of the buzzing sound when in higher power. If you have an actual adjustable induction stove and you slowly increase/decrease power, you'll find the point at which your cookware supposedly takes the maximum amount of power at best efficiency/no noise. The better pans allow you to go higher without the sound.
Problem with cheap switched power supply. Good switched power supply puts it's clock way above hearing range (>40khz). But that requires good components, so companies cheap out using lower quality components.
One argument I have heard for gas stoves is that in places that often lose power, they allow people to cook even without electricity available. Also, I can see it as something that can be used to heat the home in a dire situation.
This is why I only looked at places with gas stoves when I got my home. I was in a rental in Texas during the snow storms a couple years ago and was trapped in the house with no power or heat for a week. I had a newborn, I couldn't boil water or cook food on the stove. My neighbor had to boil a pot for me on his gas stove and others brought me food. My neighbors saved me and my family. It was one of the worst weeks of my life and I never wanted to be in that position again. Instead of waiting for Texas to fix its power grid I just opted for a gas stove and a fireplace
@@KodomoNoKazepropane grills were invented 75 years ago by the way….so maybe use those for the 1% of the time that your power is off. Basing your decision to buy a home on a factor that won’t matter 99% of the time and can be solved easily seems shortsighted. You live in Texas right aren’t you guys famous for your outdoor grilling and BBQ lol idk. That’s like buying a gasoline powered phone just in case your power goes out. Bizarre. Condolences for your power grid though maybe vote out Mr. Cancun and get someone who will focus on fixing it just a thought
Induction is so much better than the alternatives. It is so easy to control, clean, and it's safe. If you take of the pan, that part of the stove turns of. There are even cooking programs in some induction stoves. Been using them for 18 years, gas is for when I go camping ;)
The smell of gas literally reminds me of my grandmother. Where her stove had a constant small leak I reckon. She lived till quite old without cancer. I reckon it’s great to cut out gas but I think dietary excellence loads of veges without meat and dairy is still the most effective thing you can do to prevent cancer.
A few things I've learned that I think should be mentioned: induction doesn't work on copper or aluminum pans, but most aren't copper or aluminum to begin with (and they make some that do work, but they're not fully copper or aluminum). Induction is also more efficient than resistive electric. And while electric may be slower to start heating, it creates more heat than a gas burner, so the time it takes to reach a usable temperature is faster.
A modern gas stove with electric ignitors DO need a power outlet, But it's a plain old 15 Amp 110V outlet. like the kind you plug a lamp into. An electric stove needs 220v and at LEAST 30 amps of it!
Gas stoves for the win. I had an induction stove and when we changed to a gas stove a few years ago I would never go back to electrical stoves. My energy bill was cut in half, cooking is quicker and better, the best pro which is 10x more important than listening to a fat, ugly liberal is in case of a power outage you can still use it. You just need a lighter or match and you can start it. They don't want us on gas stoves because they can't control gas like electricity and they know that. The people in power want that control.
My health might be important, but so is my quality of life, and I get on very well with gas stoves. The last thing I want in my life is a stove that does/has/is any of the following: beeps at me, has a touchscreen, takes ages to heat up, is difficult to control the temperature of. I like how gas stoves have a continuous transition that you control by turning a knob, and how you can easily see how big the flame is. In oppose to jumping between different levels and just having to trust some arbitrary number. Anyway, the cooking is often so smoky that I have bigger pollutants to worry about. I think the best I can do is have the kitchen window wide open, and when I move get a place with a kitchen door to keep things contained.
@@MeepMeep88 They jabber all day because kids are arrogant fools who think they know better when they don't. Every generation thinks they're superior to the last, but I'd like to see you working 12 hour shifts on a farm. Or better yet, fighting in either of the previous world wars. Youth = confidence + lack of experience = foolishness. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect but applied to entire generations, the older you get the more you start to realise that youth generally equates to having no idea what you're doing and making stupid assumptions about how the world works. Give it 40 years and you'll see.
We used to cook on butane burners. About 2 years ago we bought an induction burner. Loved it. It only lasted a year, but we tried again with a better quality one. It’s fantastic. Since I mainly use all-clad it’s perfect. I still use other pots and woks on the butane burner, but now only 1-2x biweekly instead of 3x a day.
It's funny that some people want to politicize science. If you think that discovering things that may cause harm to you is a bad thing, you're probably a victim of bad talking points that have little to do with what's actually being discussed.
@@hi5dude2 my great grandpa told me stories about them days... Must have been hard. He said smilodon meat was smack though, makes me think I was born in the wrong epoch.
Wow, major oversight not to mention an extremely cost effective option which is to buy a single electric or induction burner. These can be plugged into a standard wall socket and will allow most folks to avoid using the gas range at all for many meals. To promote propane, but not this is ridiculous. My family uses a small induction burner, and we are very happy with it. Works great with our cast iron skillet and one induction-friendly sauce pan. We also make a lot of use of an air fryer and that keeps our oven usage down.
My parents just several years ago switched from electric coils to a gas stove because they heard it would be much better for temperature control and quicker. They have a large kitchen open to other rooms, often have the windows open, and have no children living there anymore, but all this buzz has made me think about this. I do wish we could switch to induction stoves, they're definitely the future! Just too expensive.
Very interesting! I plan to get an induction stove in the future. Right now my house has natural gas, no fan, and the kitchen windows don’t open (but I’m not going to air the house out when it’s -15 degrees anyway). But where I live the largest use of natural gas is for heating. My house is primarily heated with natural gas & electric is the backup, for when I need extra on really cold days.
Many people would chose induction stoves, but they are more expensive, than other stoves. Another problem is the price of electricity, which is more expensive to cook on, than gas. If everybody would switch to electrical stove then electrical grid would fail. The same problem is with electrical cars (they are too expensive, they have too small mileage and electrical grid would fail from the load).
I highly doubt that gas stoves are only about 15% of households in the US. And stoves are used only a fraction of the day. The increase load on the electric grid from going from gas stoves to induction stoves would probably not make much of a difference on the grid. Induction stoves are also much more energy efficient than electric coiled stoves, so I am not sure they would actually be more expensive than gas, but frankly I haven't checked. It is currently cheaper to boil a gallon of water with an electric kettle than with a gas stove. So I doubt the math works that way.
That is not really true, because electric and induction are way more efficient. on induction around 90% of the energy from the burner gets into your pan, while on gas it is only about 35-40%. Not to mention the knock on effect of cooking on gas heating up your house so that your AC unit must work harder. I along with many people and groups have tested the cost, and gas is only about 5-10% cheaper in practical terms to cook with, maybe even less so when you take efficiency into account as well as the knock on effects. and overall Cooking does not use much energy, Heating and AC are the big energy hogs.
@@eriks2962 You need to know that only one section of induction stove takes from 2kW to over 3kW. Many people cook meals at the same time (dinner at 15:00 and supper at 19:00). So there would be a very high peak usage at some parts of the day. A lot of electricity is made from gas. Conversion of energy (burning gas to get electricity) is always at a loss, sending electricity in wires also adds some loss.
@@powerzx A single section can take 2kW when used at 100%. But you pretty much never use it at that power output. For most dishes it would just burn whatever you have to a crisp really quickly. Boiling a soup is probably the only thing where you would max out a burner. And once there you would probably bring it down to a simmer, which is probably 30%. People do not eat at the same time. Meal time really is stretched out over a 2 to 3 hour window. So I doubt that would have any significant impact on the grid.
@@eriks2962 This. You almost never have to crank an induction burner up to 2kw output. At 500w on a single burner you are still really cooking on induction. To draw the full 40kw that the range would require, you would have to run all the burners as well as the oven at full power, which never happens. Also because induction uses the energy so efficiently to get the equivalent of a 5000btu gas burner on my plugin induction hotplate, I only need to set it at half power.
You do not need to get an induction cooktop installed into your bench, if you rent and you want to sue one, just get a portable one. I just did a quick search and there is a 2kW option for $60. Of course, in some places, gas is much cheaper than power and the power is still generated by a coal-fired plant, so some of the benefits rely on where you live. If you're more worried about the health benefits than the potential economic or enviro benefits, though, it's an easy solution. You could even buy a solar power "generator" (basically a portable battery) and a PV panel and power the cooktop with that, if you wanted to cook for free (after the initial purchase price), have a setup you could take camping or one picnic, and not generate any emissions from either cooking or having your house on gas that must be constantly produced with losses to the air via both leaks and flaring.
Here in South Africa, people are actually moving to gas stoves from electric, because our electricity provider is worse than useless. We have scheduled rolling blackouts that leave people with 2 to 10 hours without power every day.
I recently built a tiny house, 300 sq ft. I did not realize that at the time, but there’s a downsize to having a house that is completely sealed. There are no drafts possible. I have a long history of using oil lamps and candles for lighting. I want to put in a gas stove. The problem is ventilation. Yes, stove is out of the question, and burning oil lamps and candles, requires that I crack the windows for ventilation. It is a tiny house, therefore, is more critical than the large house twice to three times the space. If I want to use gas, I have propane, portable cook tops, which I can stowaway. I also have induction cooktops. This will be my primary Cooking method.
I’ve never liked gas stoves. When I was a kid one accidentally got turned on when someone bumped into it. I noticed the smell at some point and it took such a long time to air out the house and it was horrible. Most arguments I’ve heard for the stoves are based around if the power goes out you can still use the stoves, but I’d rather have a bbq outside or a fire in a fireplace if it comes to that.
You must not live in a place with winter. If the power is out because it's an ice storm with sub zero temperatures outside is the last place you want to be. That being said, if you do live in one of those places a butane camp stove a decent option for emergencies and relatively safe for indoor use.
Never had an issue with gas stuff being accidentally turned on. Only it being accidentally left on and making it a pain to clean the pan. Most stoves i’ve seen require you to push in the button, then turn. Otherwise, it remains locked in place. Our stove doesn’t use a small flame inside to ignite the gas, but makes a series of sparks when the button is pushed in. So, it can be a bit startling if you lean on it and it begins making noise.
@@popenieafantome9527 The one I had you would push the knob in while you turn it slightly to ignite it, but if you just turned it there would be gas leaking out and unlit. It was a bad design.
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This is such an informative video! Love the aside noting how just because we have surveys showing a link, that does not mean that there is a causal correlation -- older houses (more expensive to upgrade), homeowners financially unable to support the cost, or remote places with less reliable electricity are all other factors that may be at play, thinking off the top of my head. Great content!
@@Jack_Russell_Brown Indeed, anything built before 1973 probably leaks like a sieve compared to homes afterwards. (But is a home built in 1960 really "old"?)
Also, there could be a completely different variable that is also common in the households with asthma. Pets? Mold? Rodents? Old vs new carpet? etc. Heck, the kiddos could even go to the same school and the issue is at the school!
Install a vent hood that actually vents to the outside. A hood with a filter vent that "cleans" the air WILL NOT WORK" Also while you are at it, install a bathroom vent that vents to the outside as well. Home air quality will improve drastically.
Please don't tell me that the US is just now getting onto induction heating for cooking? When I was in Japan in 2012, they already had portable induction heating stoves for like 200 bucks, IIRC. And even here in Europe, induction heat has been a kitchen staple for at least 6 or 7 years. Most households still use electric stoves, granted, but 50% of all cooking wear is induction heating compatible. Even the cheap ones.
@@cassieoz1702 Yeah, most places in Europe have pretty reliable infrastructure, we live more tightly packed. Having above ground power lines were phased out a long time ago. Benefits of having a little higher taxes I suppose? I am curious though, why is your gas infrastructure so much more reliable than your power?
Very true about cost. Kitchen appliances are apparently made of gold and unobtanium judging by the price some of them are, and they may last a fraction of time. My nat. gas stove has a little spark igniter, some dials and burners. No electrics to wear out, no fancy computer, no logic boards. It's 25 years old and works like a champ. And if there's some reason such as a power outage or the igniter breaks, I strike a lighter near the burner and I'm and back in business. These older appliances (my washer & dryer are of the same era as my stove) and they are simple appliances and work well. I had to repair the ratchets in my agitator once. Had to replace the dryer belt because I put in a blanket that was too heavy. Meantime my friends who bought the latest appliances are still buying the latest appliances because their latest appliances bust after 5 years time. Want me to buy the latest appliance? Bring down the price and give me a lifetime warranty. Not that confident in your product? You shouldn't be selling it then.
When I was a kid we used to use a coal fired furnace that only heated one large grate in the living area. We had a small kerosene heater for in the hallway on a piece of iron sheet to prevent fires as well. The kitchen was heated by leaving one burner on low so that the pipes didn't freeze. It was cold enough in the mountain area where we lived that the doors would freeze shut till you could get them thawed. We never worried about air quality because there was no insulation (does asbestos siding count?) in the house being it was built in I think my Grandfather said 1915. They died long ago and the house is still there and has been sided remodeled and insulated. EDIT: Edited for spelling because I need more coffee.
The funny thing is that most of the people freaking out about gas stoves are far more likely to have their health impacted by the garbage food that they eat. Most of them probably only cook at home twice a week and are eating out at fast food restaurants the rest of the time.
Another good point. Gas stoves might have some negative health effects but it's only getting the coverage that it's getting right now because it's "current thing." The seed oil and corn syrup problems are far more serious, yet here we are talking about the minor potential risks of a tool we've been using for decades...
Retired electrical engineer here. Studied power engineering. An electric oven generates 3 times the co2 as a gas oven. shocking isn't it. If you have a gas stove and use 1 gallon of propane a week to do your cooking, then convert to an electric oven, the power company will have to burn 3 gallons of propane to produce the electricity you need to cook. Power companies operate at about a 30 to 35% thermal efficiency. Burning a fossil fuel to create heat is almost 100% efficient. But converting that heat to electric power and 70% of heat energy in propane is thrown a away as waste heat. This thermodynamic result was proven by the scientist Sadi Carnot about two centuries ago. It a direct consequence of the first and second law of thermodynamics. 1. Energy can not be created or destroyed, only changed in form. 2. Entropy in any closed system can only increase. The electric grid itself has typical losses of about 9%. But the heat engine all power plants use struggle to be better that 30% efficient. So it would be very beneficial to the planet if you got rid of your electric oven and got a gas oven. Assuming you believe co2 is serious problem. Although given that co2 levels were 10 times higher during the Cambrian explosion of life, when Greenland was actually a green land and reptiles lived in the antarctic, I have doubts as to the seriousness of the high co2 levels. That calculation will tilt toward electric ovens generating less co2 if you are getting power from a nuclear power plant, or from a fossil fuel powered plant that is doing carbon capture. But carbon capture is many years in the future. and wind and solar don't work at night, when all do our cooking and charging of cars. Kevin
Same, will not be long before OSHA requires it for all but special burner/broilers like in Europe. It also, frankly, makes the kitchen not so headache inducing
In Malaysia, we use a mixture of propane and butane. In all of the videos mentioning gas stoves being bad, it's fair to see propane stoves mentioned as better alternative, not only induction stoves. I feel like these studies were paid for by the induction stoves manufacturers.
The fact that gas stoves were so popular was because gas companies did the same back in the day. Convection stoves were already available, but fossil fuel companies also had a huge budget to market and influence consumers. So instead of listening to marketing, do the math and be efficient with your energy use. Personally I think gas is terrifying.
Ok good to know propane is cleaner than nat gas... I have a gas stove and cannot get natural gas here... only propane. My house is really old and the wiring cannot handle an electric stove and I cant afford to get the wiring updated.
It might be more pure than natural gas, but the fact checkers actually failed to account for the fact that because propane (or butane for that matter) contains a longer carbon chain; if not combusting hot enough it will actually produce a sootier flame with more particulates in it, has a higher likelihood of producing more complex and more toxic organic molecules, and produces more carbon monoxide. One set of benefits, another set of drawbacks.
I don't worry about gas stoves. I wouldn't have one in my house. My wife was a gas fan, but I got her to try out induction and now she will never go back. Induction is much faster, exponentially easier to clean and maintain and does not overheat the kitchen or pan handles and utensils. Induction is better in every measurable way, but many people have religious mindsets that they would rather die than change their mind.
My first thought about our gas (everyone knows that means propane, it's more common) stove is Thank God we can still cook if the electric goes out, also, electric costs way more than using a gas stove!! States should make electric bills cheaper, then folks might switch! Til then I stand by our gas stove.
@@linuxman7777 There is still more older houses in the US, say from the 70's and 80's, than there are modern homes with better insulation and stuff. You can have an entire whole town and not have any houses be "energy efficient". Our house we rent, originally the foundation is from the early 1900's, as in it was laid before 1905. As the years went on, it has slowly been updated. There was no inside bathroom in the 70's. There was no internet (dsl) til we moved here in late 2016. There was no um, heating/cooling vents to go upstairs, there still isn't for the small bedroom and you'll drip in sweat just sitting in a chair in that room once it gets to 90 or over 100 degrees outside, cuz that side of house gets the full sunlight. Curtains only knock it down about 5-8 degrees less than outside on hot those days. Glues will melt in that room, like anything taped, or mod podge
The study that claimed 10% of asthma was caused by gas stoves was flawed. It was an analysis that only looked at asthma rates in each us state compared to gas stove ownership rates. It didn't control for agriculture, population density, or even if the people with the asthma had gas stoves.
There are certain things that can only be made right with a gas burner. Being able to control where the heat is applied to the pan is essential for certain dishes My apt has an electric stove, so I use a propane countertop burner for those dishes, which I actually like more than a gas stove. Being able to take it to friend's houses, or camping, or if I'm cooking up a storm, I have a 5th burner. Its really worth getting one.
Uuuh, you can easily move around a pan on electric burner. More so if it's a flat glass cook top. There is utterly nothing that can't be cooked on electric.. You just have to learn how to do it.
I have an induction stove, and it's a bit hard to adapt to it after using gas for years, but it's very cool. It heats up fast and has a lot of degrees of control. 15 levels of control per heating unit on mine. Also, there is an error at 8:00. "The surface of the stove doesn't get hot, only the pot does." This is false or very misleading. The surface of the stove is not ferromagnetic, so it doesn't strongly interacts with the electromagnetic field, but if you're cooking there is a very hot thing on top of it, and heat conducts. So it does get hot.
I have only ever lived in 1 apartment that had an electric stove (and that was for only 2 years.) So, for 59 years of my 61 on this planet, I have been around gas stoves (and furnaces, water heaters and clothes dryers). Somehow, I survived! Pittsburgh is in the middle of the "Saudi Arabia of Natural Gas". I'm convinced that that one apartment had electric appliances as it was a newer building and it's cheaper to run wires than gas piping. This screws the tenants rather than the owner as it's much cheaper here to use gas than electricity.
Gas is cheaper, way cheaper than electricity in Puerto Rico. Clean air is for the rich. In our farm, is either gas or wood. We have an outside kitchen for wood that we only use when we run out of gas.
Theres a ton of assistance programs to help you get off gas (stoves or otherwise). Tax breaks, rebates etc. Checkout the inflation reduction act. You can really save a lot of money and get some solid upgrades in the process:)
@@elitemook4234 yeah stoves was really what Big Electric was waiting on to jack up the prices, thanks to gas stoves our current economy is not at all fully dependant on electricity to survive. Stoves won't even make a dent in the demand, man. Use your brain!
Where I come from, installing a hood over your stove is standard practice (so standard I reckon it's required by law) and has been for decades. Similarly, induction stoves are much more common here, if still a little rare. I've grown up with induction and I must say, I greatly prefer it over the alternatives. Gas is smelly, dangerous and wastes a lot of potential heat through radiation, meaning your pans get hot much slower. Electric heat coils are just far too slow to be practical, every time you want to change the temperature you have to wait ages to find out if this setting is the right one. Induction stoves, on the other hand, are super fast to respond, almost instantaneous, and they heat up so quickly it's actually just as fast to boil a pot of water on an induction stove as it is in one of those electric kettles you flick the switch on. Induction is pretty rare and a permanently installed one can still be very expensive, but you can get a smaller, single-pit induction stove that you can just plug into the wall for relatively cheap (like $40 equivalent or so) nowadays, and it'll work just fine. I'd recommend it to anyone if they can get it.
Having never had gas anything, this recent hopla around gas stoves has taught me new things. Namely gas stoves are not just rich people things and there's gas dryers which is something I did not know existed.
Well it depends. Most places I've lived gas stoves are cheaper, and gas is cheaper than electricity. For me, it seems that Induction stoves are the ones for rich people. I could buy multiple gas stoves with the cost of a single induction. And I can't have gas because of apartment regulation. So I'm stuck with an inefficient electric one. Looking into buying a single burner one for daily use.
@@Omizuke for me and everyone I've known they've had electric stoves, the gas ones we're what they put in on home improvement shows and are usually described as better.
One important aspect that no one seems to be mentioning in these comments are the enormous transmission loses from long electrical power lines. Up to 75% of the energy put in is lost between generation and point of use as waste heat into the air. Meanwhile, many electrical generating plants still burn coal or natural gas or in some cases oil, and release tons of pollution, including CO2 and fine particulates that lodge deep in the lungs. Electrical generation and long line transmission isn't as energy efficient as point of use systems. Even where electricity is generated by wind or solar, local energy sourcing and short transmission is the cleanest and most efficient.
First Ventilate - recirc fan hoods don't count. Make sure your equipment is working correctly, if it's not - replace it for a better model or different fuel.
I grew up with natural gas but now live in a rocky, mountainous area where natural gas lines just can't be laid. So we have propane. I knew from high school chemistry almost 50 years ago that "natural gas" was a methane-heavy *mix* of gasses, but it had never occurred to me that having propane was actually cleaner, so that was a surprise take away from this video. One last comment: I watch a lot of SciShow videos, but have never subscribed (I like to keep my subscriptions limited). But Savannah's natural and warm presentation is really beginning to make me reconsider that.
So basically what you're saying is that it's potentially better for my health to forego cooking dinner at home on my gas stove and go out to eat instead? Works for me!
Fun fact: A lot of homes have no choice. You get the stove your landlord puts in your apartment, after all, and in many cases, the gas industry pushes lobbyists and everyone else involved to require gas hookups and, in many cases(often through fraudulent claims about "Conservation", because nothing is more conservation-friendly than burning natural gas amirite...), requiring gas appliances, from gas stoves to gas furnaces, when the electric variety of both would work MUCH better in almost every single case. And before someone gets uppity, yes, even in Alaska, minisplit air conditioning and heating units work FINE. So you move into an apartment, and the stove you get? Is the stove you get. You don't GET to swap it out for an induction stove, which is significantly more efficient than an electric. You don't GET to swap your gas unit out, because the maintenance staff isn't trained to shut off and test the gas line, and they don't wanna fuss with calling in a city inspector. So you get what you get and you get stuck with it.
I got an induction hotplate for about €20 that uses a normal wall plug. I don't need four, different-sized hobs since it recognizes the size of the pot/pan and automatically adjusts. If I need a second hob, I just pull another hotplate out of the cupboard.
Most of us have not been concerned about gas stoves for a long time, so we do not believe it's an important subject to worry about. Personally, I would never change to cooking using electricity because I have known of many accidents among children getting burned not realizing that the stove top is still very hot due to those electric burners. Also, controlling cooking like in stir fry is definitely NOT good.
Why would a stoves affect on one's personal health, or that fff their housemats require a ban by officials? Cigarettes, alcohol, and refined sugar are all legal and rampant.
When you turned the yellow valve handle you were turning it from OFF (valve handle across the pipe) to ON (handle inline with the gas pipe). Thus you then disconnected the appliance with the gas valve in the ON position.
When the electricity's out, you can still cook on a gas stove. Grew up with electric & rentals all had electric. Didn't have gas until I bought a house and it's my preferred stove, especially when power was out for a week after a storm.
I love my gas stove. Because I live in an area with a history of power outages, as long as I have gas I can still cook and heat water. I’m actually more concerned about the seeming inability to purchase anything that isn’t antibacterial. I want my immune system to get challenged.
@@Wyvernnnn I do wonder where these people live that have so many power outages that they need proper long term strategies to handle them. And why don't they lobby their government to fix the problem? I live in North Carolina at the end of the hurricane corridor. In the last 10 years, I lost power more than a few hours only three times I think. How will I eat was NEVER on my list of concerns. Not losing the food in the freezer could be, but not for outages of less than a day. How to light my room to read my book was the level of my concern.
Here in Germany, induction stoves are becoming standard and they have been popular for years. I bought a stove oven combo about 3 years ago for about €650.
Yea, I MUCH prefer cooking with gas due to the substantially increased responsiveness, but I've yet to experience the new induction stoves (mostly because of the cost). I did use a newer method (but older than induction) at my folks a few years ago, which was pretty responsive (and really easy to clean), but gas was still more responsive, though the difference wasn't as stark. Pretty much any hob would be better than the one I currently have, as there's absolutely no variability in temp, it's either on or off, which REALLY sucks!
Buy a hotplate, I got an induction hotplate for about $150 usd and even at 3000-5000btu output it is more powerful than my most powerful gas burner because it actually heats your pan, not the air, handle etc.
@@linuxman7777 That's a whole lotta money when unemployed and barely able to afford two meals a day for the last week of each month, so I'll pass, but thanks anyway.
I have an induction stove and it's brilliant! Whenever I visit my family and have to use their really slow electric stove, I realize how good I have it. Plus, gas stoves just freak me out!
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what about propane? in Perú our stoves use 15lt propane tanks!
Would the magnet stove be able to do anything to peacemakers?
With all the things going on in the world and in this country for morons to think that gas stoves are somehow and existential threat proves without a doubt that nobody should ever listen to anything that comes out of your pie-hole.
What a crock of shxt!
Pure propaganda!
Another tip, use an air purifier in tight spaces or kitchens with no windows or external exhaust fans. Just make sure it's rated for gaseous pollutants and not just solid particles.
No matter what type of stove we all end up using, what we really should strive to regulate is the abilibity of good ventilation on apartments building. Way too many houses and apartments don't have even operable windows.
If health is the concern, we're concentrating on the wrong things.
For instance, here we have a 20 something who is easily 30lbs overweight fretting over the type of stove she has, instead of the fact that she probably lives on take-out and never uses the damn thing anyway.
@@coolworx Lol fair point. Small leaks and minor extra gas exposure for the average human is probably 10K less times deadly than obesity.
Landlords will charge you 100 x your income and the house is falling apart.
Yeah, not having gas burner fumes helps, but even many foods will generate the infamous VOCs when cooking.
I really appreciate careful approach here, presenting all the information they have and making sure that the limitations in those data are made clear.
@@justinhicks306 The video claims electric stoves are more efficient so overall you burn less fossil fuels
My favorite part was the stock footage of the person OPENING the gas valve before disconnecting the hose.
Not so much (of a careful approach here). Methane and natural gases are leaking through valves etc., but propane does not (leak at all?). When a gaseous fuel is leaking it usually leads to an explosion. But hey, I totally understand the nuclear power industry lobbying for electric stoves. 🙃
So a few BIG details glossed over towards the end. If you use indoor propane you must still ventilate. It breaks down into a lot of more CO1 compared to CO2 relative to most other common gasses (It's the main reason why camping stoves have big "DO NOT USE INDOORS" stickers on them). So yes, it is a choice but you still need to have a good vent system or a window with a fan. I also highly recommend a CO1 detector near the kitchen. The other concern is using induction stoves with pans that contain Teflon coating. The coating wears out much faster on induction stoves compared to regular coil tops. In short, no matter your choice stick with stainless or cast iron (I still like my "older than me" copper bottoms for gas though) and open a window/vent then you have very little to be worried about.
How does teflon degrade faster on induction stoves?
I remember couple countries usually choose gas over propane for leak safety and convenience.
It would be nice if the typical microwave exhaust fan actually worked well. You can feel the heat above the fan that did not get exhausted. Even the oven don't exhaust a 100%. The bigger and dedicated fan hoods are good.
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Literally the 1st thing I thought when I heard the word propane was "and propane accessories" 😂
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It ain't even breakfast yet and that boy ain't right.
I had the opportunity to replace my gas stove with an induction one a few years ago. I found it so much better in many ways compared to my old gas stove:
- Very easy to control temperature
- It heats up the contents of the pots quicker than any other cooking method and that is probably because it's so efficient
- Kitchen itself doesn´t heat up as much, since most energy ends up in the pot and the contents
- No open flames, so no fire hazard
- Surface doesn´t get as hot as compared to a conventional electric stove, so much easier to clean afterwards
- Surface is completely flat, so when not using it for cooking, you can use it to prepare the food instead
- Easy to keep food 'warm' without burning it for longer times
Of course it has the downside that it can take some time to get used to it and it doesn´t work during a power outage, but so do some modern gas stoves as those are sometimes electrically controlled. It also needs a beefy electrical connection.
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And gas is STILL superior 🙄
Induction is also much less likely to start a fire and can't explode your house by accident.
How does it work with a wok?
@@jamieayres8030 Not great. About the same as a standard gas stove. A wok needs a proper wok cradle to heat the sides and cook properly anyway, most gas stoves can't heat them evenly enough.
I use NuWave induction hobs, I can adjust the wattage to under 600 watts which means I can use it with my Goal Zero Yeti 1000x power station that I can solar charge the power station and cook without house current. Used it in the last 3 day power outage.... advantage of induction hob over induction stoves.
I really wish it was a building code standard that you have to require ventilation in kitchens that is evacuated outdoors. So many apartments and homes will have an over stove fan, but all it does is suck the fumes from the cooktop and blast it over your head. It doesn't remove the contaminants from your home at all. If anything it spreads it more quickly around the space! Even if you had an electric stove, who wants cooking smell all over your home (especially if you're me and often burn things)!
It is. In fact there are requirements for "air balancers" when you have sufficient CFM on your vent hood.
I've not seen a kitchen without a vent hood, save for some summer cabbins. I live in Finland, though.
some states do, NH won't even let you get a gas license unless you have intimate understanding of how much make up air you need for given BTUs
Agreed, humidity from boiling water, and smoke from frying (or burning) food needs to be exhausted outside, regardless of the stove type.
@@TheRealInscrutable "it is" where? Not in a single house I've visited in 31 years in the US
There are "adapters" for induction stoves for you to use your favorite pans. Basically it's a metal plate with a handle, which works with induction. Then you put your pan on top and that means you can use any pan. Obviously not as efficient as if your pan already works, but it's a nice workaround
Could help 'phase out' older pans we still rely on, and not have to replace everything all at once.
Not recommended. Apart from spending money to keep some cheap pans working (good ones often can be used directly), those plates can heat up too much if they can’t transfer the heat well or fast enough to the pan - for example, when either isn’t 100% flat. This may damage the induction stove, even crack the glass plate.
It also brings increased chance of being burned and fire. You are basically turn an inductive dtove into a ordinary electric stove
@@Erik-pu4mj "phase out older pans"... hahahaha...
I'll be BURIED with my cast iron! You can't beat 'em. Save your money up and invest THERE... SEASON the damn things, and you'll never look back. Sure, it takes a little time and practice to get used to it... BUT once you've worked with ONE properly seasoned cast iron pot or skillet... or wok... you'll throw the scrubs, specialty detergents, and paint-chippy teflon BLASPHEMY away.
Do you know how I clean my wok 9 out of 10 times when I cook with it? I wipe it with a paper towel and put it RIGHT BACK ON THE STOVE... that's it. ONCE IN A WHILE, I actually get something sticky or saucy and give it a rinsing off and a "once over with a cloth"... AND that's the HARDEST I EVER WORK at cleaning the damn thing...
I haven't scrubbed a pot, pan, skillet, or oven tray since I started cooking with cast iron. NOT EVEN ONCE... The pioneers said it was good enough, and they didn't even HAVE ANY SOAP to spare for cleaning the cookware. You could rinse it off in the nearest river (maybe)... if there was a river nearby... BUT largely, you could only spare a rag or even a wad of grass to scour off "the worst of it" and pack it away for the day...
Cast Iron is one of the oldest reliable forms of cookware, and it's STILL the top performer for the lazy home cook. It takes almost NOTHING to keep up a set once you've got them. They'll last you the rest of your life, and can likely become heirlooms for your kids and grandkids. I have pots, a kettle, and a couple skillets that are probably 200+ years old... still working as well as any pan on the market. ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 well, cast iron is also induction compatible so less of a reason to get rid of them, they are awesome
I’ve been cooking on an induction stove for about two years now and I’m very content with it, especially with the fact it reacts so quickly to changes in the setting. Plus stove is incredibly easy to clean.
Me 2. But! I still can't heat up milk without it overcooking. On gas I never had that problem. With induction it always overcooks. 😅
@@silentgamer666 heavier pans might help
For me the downside of induction is that you can't use woks with them effectively, and a wok is by far my favorite cooking tool. Way more versatile than any kind of pan or skillet.
@@Antenox You actually can but it takes an induction stove that's designed for a wok specifically. Instead of a flat surface they have an curved indented surface for the wok to go into so it'll not only heat the bottom of the wok but also the sides.
@@Enclave. Yeah, I know, but the fact that it's such a specific thing means that it'll be expensive, hard to find, less performant, or all of the above.
speaking as a chief induction is far superior to even flame based stoves. Its precise and you can use what's called the ' tip effect' where you only place a small corner of a tilted pan and cause it to have two zones of heat, thus basing a scallop works much better.
(edit thanks I meant the guy who cooks not the guy who leads)
And it frees restaurant kitchens from being hotter than hell!
What stove are you using and what kind of pans? For me induction feels more ruff.
No easy to find the sweet spot and the heating in bursts is really annoying.
For sensible foods you can even see the coil pattern on the food.
Heat is also more centert in the pan and less on the edges.
Would really like to compare the hardware.
Worst chef ever. You can do that with gas ya dummy.
@@RandomBlackBox woa how u seeing the coil pattern lol. Gotta keep stuff moving an stir that shii. Trusting that Teflon too much. Gonna pull a chunk off on the bottom of your chicken one day lol
@@RandomBlackBox that's a plain electric stove not an induction
I've been around a gas stove for most of my life, and although I don't know about all this stuff, it is incredibly useful since I lived in an area where the power frequently goes out, meaning we could still cook food even though we didn't have power for a week at a time sometimes.
Your air quality is probably pretty good if you are out in a rural area. The biggest problems are for people with gas stoves in a small home in a city with other air pollution issues. Opening the window isn't such a great option when you live next to a freeway.
Yeap I’m from PR and having a electric stove would be a huge problem unless you have a generator on all the time
Unfortunately, a lot of the range hood in homes in the US don't connect to outside. They just release air back into the kitchen.
That's how it is in my house. Never understood the purpose of even having it.
The range has filters. You will need to replace them ever so often.
@@jenrydelacruz9062 The filter only removes heavy oils. Unfortunately, all the hazardous compounds like CO, formaldehyde, benzene are so incredibly tiny that they will pass right through that filter.
@@Dryblack1 Unfortunately this situation is very common in multi-tenant dwellings like apartments and condos. Its either because there is no physical access to the roof, or it is costly to install and maintain such a vent that may need to run for a long distance through several stories of the apartment complex.
Yes, an exhaust vent that blows back in your face has very little effect on the most hazardous compounds released from natural gas ranges. 😥
So, Hank Hill was right about Propane being the superior cooking gas?
I'll let Mike be the Judge... yeah, yeah, heh, heh, heh...
@@gyrgrls this joke is so old....
you might say it is over the hill
im sorry king, but, i gotta be strictland cut you off before this blows up.....luanne
So Butane really is the bastard gas…
Dude, Hank Hill was right about everything.
I remember this one episode about low flow toilets...
It took Peggy several flushes to get rid of her waste
We recently upgraded to an induction stove and it’s like magic! Boils so fast and so much control.
So happy we went with it!
Wait 'til the first power outage.
Many MANY people live places where outages are so rare and brief it doesn't matter. 68% of Americans use electrical today and seem to survive it.
But if you're really worried because your states infrastructure is that bad, get an inverter/UPS. Or just have an outage-sandwich.
It also sucks when literal poison leaks into your home.
Also so much easier to clean. Love my induction stove.
@@5610winston we live in Toronto so the power is very rarely out…
@@michaelkirouac3680 I live in Atlanta, and it goes out about once a month in my neighborhood, and two or three day outages are not uncommon.
Induction stoves are really impressive. Kudos to whomever came up with that idea. Unfortunately, lots of non-stick cookware is made from aluminum, which doesn't work with one. But, as long as a person is aware of that when buying their cookware, they can definitely get the appropriate stuff they need to make an induction stove work.
Lots of new aluminium cookware comes now with an iron plate embedded to be compatible with induction, and there are also plates designed to make normal pans into induction compatible ones
@@Isgolo Oh -- isn't that neat. I didn't know that. Very cool!
It is also so much easier to clean.
Although right now my house has a gas stove, we only buy pans that are compatible with induction, so in the future they're all ready to go
@@Isgolo Not only new. I've got a quite old non-stick pan (probably 10 years old), which already had a feromagnetic core.
I'm a plumber, and yeah, if you have a gas system, you probably have leaks. Like 90% of the time we test a system it will fail... good for business tho
I always hear "but power outages!" as the main reason to keep gas. We have a gas stove and frequent power outages. It's really not as useful as people imagine. A few years ago, we bought a generator. It's waaaayyy better. We can run heat/AC, heat water, run the freezer, charge phones, etc. for a few hours then switch off to save fuel. Or share with the neighbor. We are getting a new stovetop as soon as our budget allows.
Also, shout-out to Alec from Technology Connections and his experiments/videos on stove types and CO2.
I agree and think it's silly to rely on a gas stove for cooking in case of a power outage anyway. If emergency preparedness is the goal, MREs and water is probably a way more reliable option and can even make hot food from the self heaters. Or freeze-dried backpacking meals which can be cold soaked if you don't have a camp stove to use for heating water. And obviously a generator is going to go a lot further in that regard but having a no-power solution on hand is good and I wouldn't trust gas lines to remain functional in an emergency situation i.e. unexpected freezing temps.
If frequent/long power outages are a major factor in your decision process for buying a stove, either reconsider whether it's actually that bad OR take to the streets to protest your terrible power grid.
Power outages are just one of the downsides of electric everything.
Copper, cobalt, gallium. mercury, lithium, and dozens of so-called rare earth metals go into the circuit boards and wiring for those clean appliances, much of it strip-mined by workers in conditions that would have to improve to be called hazardous, many of said mine workers being children. Many of these metals come from nations under control of repressive or puppet governments, much of it sourced from or channeled through Russia, China, and other international pariah states.
Nothing says _environmentally, humanitarianly, and geopolitically bankrupt_ like the current total-electric fad.
Non first world people have regular power outages, so.
Also a generator is expensive.
My dad got a generator just to run the freezer since he freezes so much of the stuff he grows. Blueberries, corn, squash, beans, etc can all be frozen quite easily, but will spoil after a few days of no power. He doesn't use it often, usually after the power has been out for a few hours already to give it a bit of a boost, and turns it off overnight. I've cooked on my mom's woodstove when the power went out, and that was the most practical for cold stormy climates (Canada) because it heats the house, and is fine to cook on. But it's not good if you're like me an have allergies. I have enough things that don't need to be heated that I can eat, so I didn't mind when the power went out in my place.
Here in Germany, induction stoves are pretty much the standard and have been for years. It's only if I go to a much older kitchen or so that I'll see anything else.
Not everyone can afford to be that fancy here in Germany, but electric and induction stoves together do make up the majority.
@@ArgoIoit's 300€ at ikea for a stove
The price difference isn't that stark
@@ArgoIo There are also electric ceramic stoves which are cheaper than induction stoves and also quite popular. I prefer them to induction stoves, as I can't cook on the induction stove properly... The food while hot during cooking becomes cold very fast...
Gas was a lot cheaper than electricity though
I really appreciate this post. I live in a condominium with hot water heater and range setup for gas. I do not have the option of external range venting. I’ve asked a number of electricians about switching to all electric and the reality is that it would require extensive remedial work, requiring X-rays of concrete subfloors on multiple levels and gutting and rewiring my unit, and covering liabilities with additional insurance. I’ve started using individual induction cooktops and countertop ovens as much as possible, and opening a window when I cook with gas. Not perfect but it’s better and what I can afford
There are renter laws that require work be done to make a space "livable" in regards to primary cooking, heating, plumbing, entry, etc. I would love to see a future where ventilation is taken into account in that. But yeah, induction hotplates are nice while we wait lol.
I mostly find it how remarkable how obsessively some people cling to gas stoves and are straight up offended that anyone could say ANYTHING bad about them. People get territorial over the weirdest things.
The people who ‘cling’ to gas predominantly are the ones who do all the cooking in the household. Gas is like having a pair of Nikes on while running a race, electric is like going barefoot. Doable but painful and slower.
@@DaSteak12 Some people don't seem to understand the difference between a conventional electric stove versus an induction stove. While they both work on electricity, the way how they work is very different.
People who say that a gas stove is "superior" either never tried an actual induction stove or have very specific / niche use cases.
Induction is more efficient and faster than gas.
@@DaSteak12 Except induction works better for 99% of applications in the kitchen. The people who cling to gas usually aren't even the people using it for the right reasons, like extensive wok cooking. And in those cases you can always keep a portable gas burner so you aren't using it when it's not needed. It's just older people that refuse to change with the times.
@@Aristo12 well than I will amend my analogy. Induction is like using nikes that are studded with diamonds. Flashy and expensive compared to the same performance from gas
I live in metro-Detroit. A major metropolitan area with almost half the state of michigan living in it. I have had countless times in my life where the power has been out longer than 24 hours. Never has the gas went out.
Until that changes, I'll never switch away from the only reliable option for a very real problem millions have.
Live in the country. Switched to convection stove top / electric oven over 20 years ago...and also electric central heat.
For cooking, with a convection stove top, you can actually set exact temps using about half the power. It is also instant on off. When my power goes out, my generator will easily run it. I paid $60 for my latest double burner convection about 5 years ago on amazon. I use my coil top electric oven ..for the oven about twice a year. Since I have convection toaster oven and air fryer.
For central heat, you immediately notice that the air is not dried out nearly as much as burning natural gas which I had for the first 50 years of my life. No more sinus problems also stopped having propane or NG headaches....which comes from burning up all the oxy in the room.
This is a no brainer.
I use propane for my outdoor grill. ...because outdoors.
I don't get why everyone talks about power outages that much, are they that frequent in the us? I can't recall the last time I've had one that lasted more than 10 seconds in France and the electric company strikes all the goddamn time
I live in the country and my electricity supply is unreliable. We're the last power pole in the line (ie we're not on a loop) so voltage variations are huge, we get brown-outs regularly and any fault ANYWHERE along the line stuffs up our supply. When there is an outage (storms, trees or poles down, lightning ground strikes), the electric company does nothing until they get other complaints (usually late I the day when everyone comes back from work/school) that allow them to work out where the fault is. Otherwise they have to deploy a helicopter ...
@@Wyvernnnn thats cuz you french were smart enough to invest in nuclear energy and us dumb americans have some faulty ass woefully inadequate grids just waiting to shut off when a strong solar storm hits
@@Wyvernnnn For the vast majority of Americans, it's not a common occurrence. Statistics show that it's 2-8 hours a year per customer on average. Even if you do end up losing power for several days in a row multiple times a year, there are work arounds that are better than heating your home with the gas stove or going without food. The original comment mentioned one of the alternatives. Also, lmao.
Wow. I love how you give so much information from all sides, not just one. This was put together so well. Thank you.
Bro It’s A Stove Why Do People Fight Over It So Much 💀
@@AE_AnarchistAlexcianEmpire69Bi There's a lot of money being spent trying to lobby to keep new construction wired to gas by default for heating purposes (90% of the consumption comes from heat, stoves are negligible). But they fear that the stove is the gateway to your heating system. They fear that architects will skip rigging pipes in your walls and prefer heat pumps if they don't need to do it for the stove already. And conservative media is more than glad to take some of that lobbying cash to turn the debate into a partisan issue. And with poor media literacy, the problem is it's working. People are biting very hard into the campaigns, and you see it in the youtube comments. That's why it's never the brightest dudes opposing it
As an asthmatic I HIGHLY recommend an induction stove (I’ve lived with gas stoves as well). I also recommend a ventilation system (HRV) in your house if you do own and can control that. Also see Climate Town’s video on the gas industry propaganda around gas stoves.
Seeing a lot of that seems so strange to me. It looks like in the USA, people use electric for heat, and gas for cooking, where in Canada, most of us grew up with, and many still have, gas for heat (slowly switching to heat pumps, although they still don't work below -20C), and electric for cooking. Or if you're really old school, wood for both. I was camping one time and made pancakes on a lovely wood cookstove, that I didn't even realize were still being made, although they get too hot in summer. Like I have propane for heat, a fireplace that uses it instead of getting my house full of wood and all the bugs that live in it, but I don't cook with it. When the power goes out, I just eat cold stuff or things preserved by canning. Which is the one issue I have with induction, I haven't found an induction compatible water bath canner. But that's okay, most people I know use a single burner for canning anyway due to how large canners are.
Thanks so much @kaytobe for recommending Climate Town's videos! They are awesome.
I'm watching one called "It's time to break up with our gas stoves". Funny, accurate...and should be going viral. But it isn't. Spread these types of videos everyone. Avoid the naysayers in comments and just keep liking, subscribing and _sharing_ videos like these.
You guys should do an episode on all the crazy atmospheric rivers hitting California this year. It's been a very very wet winter over here.
@@Jack_Russell_Brown Unless you have a generator, which everyone who lives in vulnerable places should. I used to live in SEAsia and we got a generator for the times when the power went down.
@@Jack_Russell_Brown I must say, I love being able to cook and have hot water when a major winter storm knocks out the electricty.
@@Jack_Russell_Brown Can't speak for everyone, but the last time my parents had a power outage, their gas stove didn't work either. I assume something in the ignition system is electric.
Granted, they're more likely to have an outage due to an earthquake than for any other reason, and maybe they should just leave the flammable gases alone in that situation...
@@onbearfeet Our stove is like that too, that's why we have a box of matches in the drawer.
@@Jack_Russell_Brown Indeed. When we lived in Florida we always kept kerosene lamps in the house.
Really like Savannah's delivery. They are a great addition to this show!
From Day 1, I realized that Savannah in my SciShow life was better than no Savannah.😁
I do not like her voice at all. She sounds like she has a cold in every episode
They deleted all replies, yay for censorship on a science channel 👍
It's simple: Don't be rude. Bonus Info: Science channel comment section =/= free speech playground.
@@benjaminforman8901 I spoted maybe one mildly rude reply out of 20. Of course it isn't ==, but it should be, that's the point.
I remember being amazed by my grandparents induction stove. They got one maybe 12-15 years ago, and when they put a paper towel under the pot to catch any spills, I was confused and amazed! I wouldn't mind getting one when I get a new range. I currently have a compact size one with a standard glass top surface for easy cleaning. But the oven isn't big enough to bake a dozen cookies in unless I use two cookie sheets, so I'll get a full one someday, and I like the induction ones, even if it means getting a couple new pots.
Part of this problem is that most people *do not have proper ventilation for cooking*
Edit: commented this before she mentioned it in the video. This is just a major observation that I’ve had for a while.
I don't think building codes are universal across all states but where I live you can't have a gas stove without adequate ventilation. It used to be something like 24" above the cooking surface, a minimum of 220cfm, must be exhausted out of the home and away from windows. The higher it's mounted from the surface the stronger fan you need.
If you hold a tissue up to your running exhaust fan and it barely moves, you have a problem and shouldn't be using gas.
Manually turn off all appliance gas valves and check your meter. If you see any flow call the gas company because, not only are you wasting gas, but the indoor pollution and risk of fire is too great.
The big problem with my new induction portable cooktop is that it generates a loud 21KHz electric whine which causes my cat to go running -- a spectrum analyzer app on my phone confirmed it.
Cook the cat . Problem solved
Can confirm, it is also very annoying for my human ears.
From what I understand, There are two reasons:
1. Your induction stove itself is on the cheap side. The ones that go on-off-on-off when you go to a lower power instead of actually lowering the power.
2: You have thinner or cheaper induction cookware. The heavier or more dense you cookware (base) is, the less you hear of the buzzing sound when in higher power.
If you have an actual adjustable induction stove and you slowly increase/decrease power, you'll find the point at which your cookware supposedly takes the maximum amount of power at best efficiency/no noise. The better pans allow you to go higher without the sound.
@@ayuchanayuko Mine squeals only at mid power settings. 3.5 to 5.5.
Duxtop Portable 9610LS BT-200DZ
Problem with cheap switched power supply. Good switched power supply puts it's clock way above hearing range (>40khz). But that requires good components, so companies cheap out using lower quality components.
Honestly electric stoves are easier anyways. Especially to clean when they’re that nice flat glass surface
Cries in open resistance coils
You're a good host/presenter Savannah 👍
One argument I have heard for gas stoves is that in places that often lose power, they allow people to cook even without electricity available. Also, I can see it as something that can be used to heat the home in a dire situation.
This is why I only looked at places with gas stoves when I got my home. I was in a rental in Texas during the snow storms a couple years ago and was trapped in the house with no power or heat for a week. I had a newborn, I couldn't boil water or cook food on the stove. My neighbor had to boil a pot for me on his gas stove and others brought me food. My neighbors saved me and my family. It was one of the worst weeks of my life and I never wanted to be in that position again. Instead of waiting for Texas to fix its power grid I just opted for a gas stove and a fireplace
@@KodomoNoKazepropane grills were invented 75 years ago by the way….so maybe use those for the 1% of the time that your power is off. Basing your decision to buy a home on a factor that won’t matter 99% of the time and can be solved easily seems shortsighted. You live in Texas right aren’t you guys famous for your outdoor grilling and BBQ lol idk. That’s like buying a gasoline powered phone just in case your power goes out. Bizarre. Condolences for your power grid though maybe vote out Mr. Cancun and get someone who will focus on fixing it just a thought
@Ben R "Mr Cancun" 😆 we are TRYING!!!! Not enough of us are trying though unfortunately
@@benr3799 LoL I was just thinking to myself, why didn't this chick just use the grill out back.
@@dwaynewilliams3077 LOL. Somehow this made me think of "let them eat cake."
Induction is so much better than the alternatives. It is so easy to control, clean, and it's safe. If you take of the pan, that part of the stove turns of. There are even cooking programs in some induction stoves. Been using them for 18 years, gas is for when I go camping ;)
Only You Can Prevent Forest Fires
@@AE_AnarchistAlexcianEmpire69Bi Are you referring to Homer or Yogi? Either way, you knocked that one out of the park.
The smell of gas literally reminds me of my grandmother. Where her stove had a constant small leak I reckon.
She lived till quite old without cancer.
I reckon it’s great to cut out gas but I think dietary excellence loads of veges without meat and dairy is still the most effective thing you can do to prevent cancer.
A few things I've learned that I think should be mentioned: induction doesn't work on copper or aluminum pans, but most aren't copper or aluminum to begin with (and they make some that do work, but they're not fully copper or aluminum). Induction is also more efficient than resistive electric. And while electric may be slower to start heating, it creates more heat than a gas burner, so the time it takes to reach a usable temperature is faster.
your pfp is so cute
If you have a modern gas stove, you also have a power outlet. Most gas stoves require electricity for the other components.
If your power goes out and your igniter doesn't work, you can light a gas stove with a lighter.
A modern gas stove with electric ignitors DO need a power outlet, But it's a plain old 15 Amp 110V outlet. like the kind you plug a lamp into. An electric stove needs 220v and at LEAST 30 amps of it!
Gas stoves for the win. I had an induction stove and when we changed to a gas stove a few years ago I would never go back to electrical stoves. My energy bill was cut in half, cooking is quicker and better, the best pro which is 10x more important than listening to a fat, ugly liberal is in case of a power outage you can still use it. You just need a lighter or match and you can start it.
They don't want us on gas stoves because they can't control gas like electricity and they know that. The people in power want that control.
My health might be important, but so is my quality of life, and I get on very well with gas stoves. The last thing I want in my life is a stove that does/has/is any of the following: beeps at me, has a touchscreen, takes ages to heat up, is difficult to control the temperature of. I like how gas stoves have a continuous transition that you control by turning a knob, and how you can easily see how big the flame is. In oppose to jumping between different levels and just having to trust some arbitrary number. Anyway, the cooking is often so smoky that I have bigger pollutants to worry about. I think the best I can do is have the kitchen window wide open, and when I move get a place with a kitchen door to keep things contained.
adam ragusea did a whole podcast on this same topic it's a great watch I really recommend the channel if you want a long form video on it.
Lol except it's probably 1hr+ long on just one subject... ffff that
@@MeepMeep88 kids these days, no patience
@@onesob13 Old people these days, just jabber all day.
@@MeepMeep88 so wird's immer sein 🤣
@@MeepMeep88 They jabber all day because kids are arrogant fools who think they know better when they don't. Every generation thinks they're superior to the last, but I'd like to see you working 12 hour shifts on a farm. Or better yet, fighting in either of the previous world wars. Youth = confidence + lack of experience = foolishness. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect but applied to entire generations, the older you get the more you start to realise that youth generally equates to having no idea what you're doing and making stupid assumptions about how the world works. Give it 40 years and you'll see.
That is a very strange clip at 2:55; the person *opens* the valve before disconnecting the hose!
its so wrong its painfull
Stock footage is notoriously inaccurate. People holding the hot part of soldering irons, mixing coloured solutions without eye protection, etc.
He also loves the smell of Petrol 😅
We used to cook on butane burners. About 2 years ago we bought an induction burner. Loved it. It only lasted a year, but we tried again with a better quality one. It’s fantastic. Since I mainly use all-clad it’s perfect. I still use other pots and woks on the butane burner, but now only 1-2x biweekly instead of 3x a day.
It's funny that some people want to politicize science. If you think that discovering things that may cause harm to you is a bad thing, you're probably a victim of bad talking points that have little to do with what's actually being discussed.
If you want Hank's hotter take on this search You don't want a gas stovetop on RUclips. Chaotic laughs but still educational, as he does so well
While I was growing up, the stove was used to heat the living area and the range was used to cook food.
Young'n.... Back in my day, we used the stove to heat the living area, and cook food.
@@dwaynewilliams3077 younger young'n, back in my day we had not invented fire yet so we huddled in caves for warmth.
@@hi5dude2 my great grandpa told me stories about them days... Must have been hard. He said smilodon meat was smack though, makes me think I was born in the wrong epoch.
Back in my day you sliced open a dead Tauntaun and cozied up inside its hot guts for the night.
Wow, major oversight not to mention an extremely cost effective option which is to buy a single electric or induction burner. These can be plugged into a standard wall socket and will allow most folks to avoid using the gas range at all for many meals. To promote propane, but not this is ridiculous.
My family uses a small induction burner, and we are very happy with it. Works great with our cast iron skillet and one induction-friendly sauce pan.
We also make a lot of use of an air fryer and that keeps our oven usage down.
My parents just several years ago switched from electric coils to a gas stove because they heard it would be much better for temperature control and quicker.
They have a large kitchen open to other rooms, often have the windows open, and have no children living there anymore, but all this buzz has made me think about this.
I do wish we could switch to induction stoves, they're definitely the future! Just too expensive.
Very interesting! I plan to get an induction stove in the future. Right now my house has natural gas, no fan, and the kitchen windows don’t open (but I’m not going to air the house out when it’s -15 degrees anyway). But where I live the largest use of natural gas is for heating. My house is primarily heated with natural gas & electric is the backup, for when I need extra on really cold days.
Many people would chose induction stoves, but they are more expensive, than other stoves. Another problem is the price of electricity, which is more expensive to cook on, than gas. If everybody would switch to electrical stove then electrical grid would fail. The same problem is with electrical cars (they are too expensive, they have too small mileage and electrical grid would fail from the load).
I highly doubt that gas stoves are only about 15% of households in the US. And stoves are used only a fraction of the day. The increase load on the electric grid from going from gas stoves to induction stoves would probably not make much of a difference on the grid.
Induction stoves are also much more energy efficient than electric coiled stoves, so I am not sure they would actually be more expensive than gas, but frankly I haven't checked. It is currently cheaper to boil a gallon of water with an electric kettle than with a gas stove. So I doubt the math works that way.
That is not really true, because electric and induction are way more efficient. on induction around 90% of the energy from the burner gets into your pan, while on gas it is only about 35-40%. Not to mention the knock on effect of cooking on gas heating up your house so that your AC unit must work harder.
I along with many people and groups have tested the cost, and gas is only about 5-10% cheaper in practical terms to cook with, maybe even less so when you take efficiency into account as well as the knock on effects. and overall Cooking does not use much energy, Heating and AC are the big energy hogs.
@@eriks2962 You need to know that only one section of induction stove takes from 2kW to over 3kW. Many people cook meals at the same time (dinner at 15:00 and supper at 19:00). So there would be a very high peak usage at some parts of the day. A lot of electricity is made from gas. Conversion of energy (burning gas to get electricity) is always at a loss, sending electricity in wires also adds some loss.
@@powerzx A single section can take 2kW when used at 100%. But you pretty much never use it at that power output. For most dishes it would just burn whatever you have to a crisp really quickly. Boiling a soup is probably the only thing where you would max out a burner. And once there you would probably bring it down to a simmer, which is probably 30%.
People do not eat at the same time. Meal time really is stretched out over a 2 to 3 hour window. So I doubt that would have any significant impact on the grid.
@@eriks2962 This. You almost never have to crank an induction burner up to 2kw output. At 500w on a single burner you are still really cooking on induction. To draw the full 40kw that the range would require, you would have to run all the burners as well as the oven at full power, which never happens.
Also because induction uses the energy so efficiently to get the equivalent of a 5000btu gas burner on my plugin induction hotplate, I only need to set it at half power.
You do not need to get an induction cooktop installed into your bench, if you rent and you want to sue one, just get a portable one. I just did a quick search and there is a 2kW option for $60. Of course, in some places, gas is much cheaper than power and the power is still generated by a coal-fired plant, so some of the benefits rely on where you live. If you're more worried about the health benefits than the potential economic or enviro benefits, though, it's an easy solution. You could even buy a solar power "generator" (basically a portable battery) and a PV panel and power the cooktop with that, if you wanted to cook for free (after the initial purchase price), have a setup you could take camping or one picnic, and not generate any emissions from either cooking or having your house on gas that must be constantly produced with losses to the air via both leaks and flaring.
6:07 pffffffff can't me more wrong.. We associate propane with propane and propane accessories!
We have a glass top stove with the little heat bulbs and I really like it took a min to get use to it but so much better then the old coil stove
Here in South Africa, people are actually moving to gas stoves from electric, because our electricity provider is worse than useless. We have scheduled rolling blackouts that leave people with 2 to 10 hours without power every day.
I recently built a tiny house, 300 sq ft. I did not realize that at the time, but there’s a downsize to having a house that is completely sealed. There are no drafts possible. I have a long history of using oil lamps and candles for lighting. I want to put in a gas stove. The problem is ventilation. Yes, stove is out of the question, and burning oil lamps and candles, requires that I crack the windows for ventilation. It is a tiny house, therefore, is more critical than the large house twice to three times the space.
If I want to use gas, I have propane, portable cook tops, which I can stowaway. I also have induction cooktops. This will be my primary Cooking method.
That video is very good! a bite-sized summary of what I needed to know! Good job sci-show!
Lemme tell you all about propane and propane accessories, son.
gas stoves are incredibly energy inefficient. the fact that the US is so far behind on the technology curve on this is quite disheartening.
I’ve never liked gas stoves. When I was a kid one accidentally got turned on when someone bumped into it. I noticed the smell at some point and it took such a long time to air out the house and it was horrible. Most arguments I’ve heard for the stoves are based around if the power goes out you can still use the stoves, but I’d rather have a bbq outside or a fire in a fireplace if it comes to that.
You must not live in a place with winter. If the power is out because it's an ice storm with sub zero temperatures outside is the last place you want to be.
That being said, if you do live in one of those places a butane camp stove a decent option for emergencies and relatively safe for indoor use.
Never had an issue with gas stuff being accidentally turned on. Only it being accidentally left on and making it a pain to clean the pan. Most stoves i’ve seen require you to push in the button, then turn. Otherwise, it remains locked in place. Our stove doesn’t use a small flame inside to ignite the gas, but makes a series of sparks when the button is pushed in. So, it can be a bit startling if you lean on it and it begins making noise.
@@G0rgar I did live in a place with winter and had the power go out when it was snowing before. Still wasn't enough to change my mind.
@@popenieafantome9527 The one I had you would push the knob in while you turn it slightly to ignite it, but if you just turned it there would be gas leaking out and unlit. It was a bad design.
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This is such an informative video! Love the aside noting how just because we have surveys showing a link, that does not mean that there is a causal correlation -- older houses (more expensive to upgrade), homeowners financially unable to support the cost, or remote places with less reliable electricity are all other factors that may be at play, thinking off the top of my head. Great content!
@@Jack_Russell_Brown Indeed, anything built before 1973 probably leaks like a sieve compared to homes afterwards. (But is a home built in 1960 really "old"?)
Also, there could be a completely different variable that is also common in the households with asthma. Pets? Mold? Rodents? Old vs new carpet? etc. Heck, the kiddos could even go to the same school and the issue is at the school!
Install a vent hood that actually vents to the outside. A hood with a filter vent that "cleans" the air WILL NOT WORK" Also while you are at it, install a bathroom vent that vents to the outside as well. Home air quality will improve drastically.
Please don't tell me that the US is just now getting onto induction heating for cooking?
When I was in Japan in 2012, they already had portable induction heating stoves for like 200 bucks, IIRC. And even here in Europe, induction heat has been a kitchen staple for at least 6 or 7 years. Most households still use electric stoves, granted, but 50% of all cooking wear is induction heating compatible. Even the cheap ones.
The USA lags behind often.
You clearly live somewhere (urban?) That the power supply is reliable
@@cassieoz1702 Yeah, most places in Europe have pretty reliable infrastructure, we live more tightly packed. Having above ground power lines were phased out a long time ago. Benefits of having a little higher taxes I suppose? I am curious though, why is your gas infrastructure so much more reliable than your power?
these portable induction stoves are terrible though. We do have them here. IKEA sells some for $50 or so. They are quite noisy.
@@98Zai I live in rural Australia. My 'gas infrastructure' is bottled propane.
Very true about cost. Kitchen appliances are apparently made of gold and unobtanium judging by the price some of them are, and they may last a fraction of time. My nat. gas stove has a little spark igniter, some dials and burners. No electrics to wear out, no fancy computer, no logic boards. It's 25 years old and works like a champ. And if there's some reason such as a power outage or the igniter breaks, I strike a lighter near the burner and I'm and back in business.
These older appliances (my washer & dryer are of the same era as my stove) and they are simple appliances and work well. I had to repair the ratchets in my agitator once. Had to replace the dryer belt because I put in a blanket that was too heavy.
Meantime my friends who bought the latest appliances are still buying the latest appliances because their latest appliances bust after 5 years time.
Want me to buy the latest appliance? Bring down the price and give me a lifetime warranty. Not that confident in your product? You shouldn't be selling it then.
In most states gas products are still cheaper to operate and heat homes compared to electricity.
That is for heating, But for cooking... not really, cooking on an open flame is so inefficient compared to solid on solid contact.
In South Africa people are moving back to gas because our state electricity provider is falling apart.
The electric companies approve this video, and electric stove manufacturers love this video! I'll keep my gas stove.
When I was a kid we used to use a coal fired furnace that only heated one large grate in the living area. We had a small kerosene heater for in the hallway on a piece of iron sheet to prevent fires as well. The kitchen was heated by leaving one burner on low so that the pipes didn't freeze. It was cold enough in the mountain area where we lived that the doors would freeze shut till you could get them thawed. We never worried about air quality because there was no insulation (does asbestos siding count?) in the house being it was built in I think my Grandfather said 1915. They died long ago and the house is still there and has been sided remodeled and insulated. EDIT: Edited for spelling because I need more coffee.
The funny thing is that most of the people freaking out about gas stoves are far more likely to have their health impacted by the garbage food that they eat. Most of them probably only cook at home twice a week and are eating out at fast food restaurants the rest of the time.
Another good point. Gas stoves might have some negative health effects but it's only getting the coverage that it's getting right now because it's "current thing." The seed oil and corn syrup problems are far more serious, yet here we are talking about the minor potential risks of a tool we've been using for decades...
Retired electrical engineer here.
Studied power engineering.
An electric oven generates 3 times the co2 as a gas oven. shocking isn't it.
If you have a gas stove and use 1 gallon of propane a week to do your cooking, then convert to an electric oven, the power company will have to burn 3 gallons of propane to produce the electricity you need to cook. Power companies operate at about a 30 to 35% thermal efficiency.
Burning a fossil fuel to create heat is almost 100% efficient. But converting that heat to electric power and 70% of heat energy in propane is thrown a away as waste heat.
This thermodynamic result was proven by the scientist Sadi Carnot about two centuries ago. It a direct consequence of the first and second law of thermodynamics.
1. Energy can not be created or destroyed, only changed in form.
2. Entropy in any closed system can only increase.
The electric grid itself has typical losses of about 9%. But the heat engine all power plants use struggle to be better that 30% efficient.
So it would be very beneficial to the planet if you got rid of your electric oven and got a gas oven. Assuming you believe co2 is serious problem. Although given that co2 levels were 10 times higher during the Cambrian explosion of life, when Greenland was actually a green land and reptiles lived in the antarctic, I have doubts as to the seriousness of the high co2 levels.
That calculation will tilt toward electric ovens generating less co2 if you are getting power from a nuclear power plant, or from a fossil fuel powered plant that is doing carbon capture. But carbon capture is many years in the future. and wind and solar don't work at night, when all do our cooking and charging of cars.
Kevin
When I worked as a professional sous chef I loved the reactivity of it. It heats pans quickly.
electric stoves? yeah they're great
Same, will not be long before OSHA requires it for all but special burner/broilers like in Europe. It also, frankly, makes the kitchen not so headache inducing
gotta appreciate the logic of this video, did not outright blamed one thing but gave an idea
Number one way to improve your home's air quality is to change your furnace filter regularly, but induction ranges are cool too.
I don't have any furnace filters. Not many people do.
In Malaysia, we use a mixture of propane and butane. In all of the videos mentioning gas stoves being bad, it's fair to see propane stoves mentioned as better alternative, not only induction stoves. I feel like these studies were paid for by the induction stoves manufacturers.
The fact that gas stoves were so popular was because gas companies did the same back in the day. Convection stoves were already available, but fossil fuel companies also had a huge budget to market and influence consumers. So instead of listening to marketing, do the math and be efficient with your energy use. Personally I think gas is terrifying.
Ok good to know propane is cleaner than nat gas... I have a gas stove and cannot get natural gas here... only propane. My house is really old and the wiring cannot handle an electric stove and I cant afford to get the wiring updated.
Inflation reduction act will pay for (or help you pay for) electric upgrades:)
@@alien9279 I will have to look into that.
It might be more pure than natural gas, but the fact checkers actually failed to account for the fact that because propane (or butane for that matter) contains a longer carbon chain; if not combusting hot enough it will actually produce a sootier flame with more particulates in it, has a higher likelihood of producing more complex and more toxic organic molecules, and produces more carbon monoxide. One set of benefits, another set of drawbacks.
@@liorean well My stove produces zero soot. so it is burning pretty thoroughly.
I don't worry about gas stoves. I wouldn't have one in my house. My wife was a gas fan, but I got her to try out induction and now she will never go back. Induction is much faster, exponentially easier to clean and maintain and does not overheat the kitchen or pan handles and utensils. Induction is better in every measurable way, but many people have religious mindsets that they would rather die than change their mind.
My first thought about our gas (everyone knows that means propane, it's more common) stove is Thank God we can still cook if the electric goes out, also, electric costs way more than using a gas stove!!
States should make electric bills cheaper, then folks might switch!
Til then I stand by our gas stove.
Yeah, but most electricity companies are privately owned, so profits are paramount.
It really isn't that much different in price when you take efficiency and knock on effects into account
@@linuxman7777 There is still more older houses in the US, say from the 70's and 80's, than there are modern homes with better insulation and stuff.
You can have an entire whole town and not have any houses be "energy efficient".
Our house we rent, originally the foundation is from the early 1900's, as in it was laid before 1905. As the years went on, it has slowly been updated. There was no inside bathroom in the 70's. There was no internet (dsl) til we moved here in late 2016. There was no um, heating/cooling vents to go upstairs, there still isn't for the small bedroom and you'll drip in sweat just sitting in a chair in that room once it gets to 90 or over 100 degrees outside, cuz that side of house gets the full sunlight. Curtains only knock it down about 5-8 degrees less than outside on hot those days. Glues will melt in that room, like anything taped, or mod podge
The study that claimed 10% of asthma was caused by gas stoves was flawed. It was an analysis that only looked at asthma rates in each us state compared to gas stove ownership rates. It didn't control for agriculture, population density, or even if the people with the asthma had gas stoves.
There are certain things that can only be made right with a gas burner.
Being able to control where the heat is applied to the pan is essential for certain dishes
My apt has an electric stove, so I use a propane countertop burner for those dishes, which I actually like more than a gas stove.
Being able to take it to friend's houses, or camping, or if I'm cooking up a storm, I have a 5th burner. Its really worth getting one.
Uuuh, you can easily move around a pan on electric burner. More so if it's a flat glass cook top.
There is utterly nothing that can't be cooked on electric.. You just have to learn how to do it.
I have an induction stove, and it's a bit hard to adapt to it after using gas for years, but it's very cool. It heats up fast and has a lot of degrees of control. 15 levels of control per heating unit on mine.
Also, there is an error at 8:00. "The surface of the stove doesn't get hot, only the pot does." This is false or very misleading. The surface of the stove is not ferromagnetic, so it doesn't strongly interacts with the electromagnetic field, but if you're cooking there is a very hot thing on top of it, and heat conducts. So it does get hot.
When i'd need a large service upgrade just to use a pitiful induction stove, and pay almost double for it, no thanks.
I have only ever lived in 1 apartment that had an electric stove (and that was for only 2 years.) So, for 59 years of my 61 on this planet, I have been around gas stoves (and furnaces, water heaters and clothes dryers). Somehow, I survived! Pittsburgh is in the middle of the "Saudi Arabia of Natural Gas". I'm convinced that that one apartment had electric appliances as it was a newer building and it's cheaper to run wires than gas piping. This screws the tenants rather than the owner as it's much cheaper here to use gas than electricity.
Anyone else's stove vent not even hooked up to the outside even though it has the vent function?
Lots of people´s.
Gas is cheaper, way cheaper than electricity in Puerto Rico.
Clean air is for the rich. In our farm, is either gas or wood. We have an outside kitchen for wood that we only use when we run out of gas.
Theres a ton of assistance programs to help you get off gas (stoves or otherwise). Tax breaks, rebates etc. Checkout the inflation reduction act. You can really save a lot of money and get some solid upgrades in the process:)
My house almost exploded with my whole family in it because of a gas stove that was left on. Switch to induction, people.
Those of us who live where electricity is unreliable, don't really have that option
Electric anything is only cheaper till everyone makes the switch. Then all those progrmans will stop and you will pay out the nose.
@@elitemook4234 yeah stoves was really what Big Electric was waiting on to jack up the prices, thanks to gas stoves our current economy is not at all fully dependant on electricity to survive. Stoves won't even make a dent in the demand, man. Use your brain!
@@Wyvernnnn The point wen't so far over your head it's in orbit.
Where I come from, installing a hood over your stove is standard practice (so standard I reckon it's required by law) and has been for decades. Similarly, induction stoves are much more common here, if still a little rare. I've grown up with induction and I must say, I greatly prefer it over the alternatives. Gas is smelly, dangerous and wastes a lot of potential heat through radiation, meaning your pans get hot much slower. Electric heat coils are just far too slow to be practical, every time you want to change the temperature you have to wait ages to find out if this setting is the right one. Induction stoves, on the other hand, are super fast to respond, almost instantaneous, and they heat up so quickly it's actually just as fast to boil a pot of water on an induction stove as it is in one of those electric kettles you flick the switch on.
Induction is pretty rare and a permanently installed one can still be very expensive, but you can get a smaller, single-pit induction stove that you can just plug into the wall for relatively cheap (like $40 equivalent or so) nowadays, and it'll work just fine. I'd recommend it to anyone if they can get it.
Having never had gas anything, this recent hopla around gas stoves has taught me new things. Namely gas stoves are not just rich people things and there's gas dryers which is something I did not know existed.
Well it depends. Most places I've lived gas stoves are cheaper, and gas is cheaper than electricity. For me, it seems that Induction stoves are the ones for rich people. I could buy multiple gas stoves with the cost of a single induction. And I can't have gas because of apartment regulation. So I'm stuck with an inefficient electric one. Looking into buying a single burner one for daily use.
@@Omizuke for me and everyone I've known they've had electric stoves, the gas ones we're what they put in on home improvement shows and are usually described as better.
One important aspect that no one seems to be mentioning in these comments are the enormous transmission loses from long electrical power lines. Up to 75% of the energy put in is lost between generation and point of use as waste heat into the air. Meanwhile, many electrical generating plants still burn coal or natural gas or in some cases oil, and release tons of pollution, including CO2 and fine particulates that lodge deep in the lungs. Electrical generation and long line transmission isn't as energy efficient as point of use systems. Even where electricity is generated by wind or solar, local energy sourcing and short transmission is the cleanest and most efficient.
First Ventilate - recirc fan hoods don't count. Make sure your equipment is working correctly, if it's not - replace it for a better model or different fuel.
I grew up with natural gas but now live in a rocky, mountainous area where natural gas lines just can't be laid. So we have propane. I knew from high school chemistry almost 50 years ago that "natural gas" was a methane-heavy *mix* of gasses, but it had never occurred to me that having propane was actually cleaner, so that was a surprise take away from this video.
One last comment: I watch a lot of SciShow videos, but have never subscribed (I like to keep my subscriptions limited). But Savannah's natural and warm presentation is really beginning to make me reconsider that.
So basically what you're saying is that it's potentially better for my health to forego cooking dinner at home on my gas stove and go out to eat instead? Works for me!
Fun fact: A lot of homes have no choice. You get the stove your landlord puts in your apartment, after all, and in many cases, the gas industry pushes lobbyists and everyone else involved to require gas hookups and, in many cases(often through fraudulent claims about "Conservation", because nothing is more conservation-friendly than burning natural gas amirite...), requiring gas appliances, from gas stoves to gas furnaces, when the electric variety of both would work MUCH better in almost every single case. And before someone gets uppity, yes, even in Alaska, minisplit air conditioning and heating units work FINE.
So you move into an apartment, and the stove you get? Is the stove you get. You don't GET to swap it out for an induction stove, which is significantly more efficient than an electric. You don't GET to swap your gas unit out, because the maintenance staff isn't trained to shut off and test the gas line, and they don't wanna fuss with calling in a city inspector. So you get what you get and you get stuck with it.
That could get fixed at state level through regulatin. I mean theoretically; good luck with that in Alaska!
Everyone dragging their propane grills inside.
I got an induction hotplate for about €20 that uses a normal wall plug. I don't need four, different-sized hobs since it recognizes the size of the pot/pan and automatically adjusts. If I need a second hob, I just pull another hotplate out of the cupboard.
My god, Hank Hill was right
Most of us have not been concerned about gas stoves for a long time, so we do not believe it's an important subject to worry about. Personally, I would never change to cooking using electricity because I have known of many accidents among children getting burned not realizing that the stove top is still very hot due to those electric burners. Also, controlling cooking like in stir fry is definitely NOT good.
So I guess I can rest easy with my propane fueled stove. Thanks.😀
Why would a stoves affect on one's personal health, or that fff their housemats require a ban by officials?
Cigarettes, alcohol, and refined sugar are all legal and rampant.
When you turned the yellow valve handle you were turning it from OFF (valve handle across the pipe) to ON (handle inline with the gas pipe). Thus you then disconnected the appliance with the gas valve in the ON position.
Stock footage is notoriously inaccurate. People holding the hot part of soldering irons, mixing coloured solutions without eye protection, etc.
When the electricity's out, you can still cook on a gas stove. Grew up with electric & rentals all had electric. Didn't have gas until I bought a house and it's my preferred stove, especially when power was out for a week after a storm.
I love my gas stove. Because I live in an area with a history of power outages, as long as I have gas I can still cook and heat water.
I’m actually more concerned about the seeming inability to purchase anything that isn’t antibacterial. I want my immune system to get challenged.
I feel like everyone has a propane burner in a shed somewhere from the one time they went camping anyway
@@Wyvernnnn I do wonder where these people live that have so many power outages that they need proper long term strategies to handle them. And why don't they lobby their government to fix the problem?
I live in North Carolina at the end of the hurricane corridor. In the last 10 years, I lost power more than a few hours only three times I think. How will I eat was NEVER on my list of concerns. Not losing the food in the freezer could be, but not for outages of less than a day. How to light my room to read my book was the level of my concern.
Here in Germany, induction stoves are becoming standard and they have been popular for years. I bought a stove oven combo about 3 years ago for about €650.
Yea, I MUCH prefer cooking with gas due to the substantially increased responsiveness, but I've yet to experience the new induction stoves (mostly because of the cost).
I did use a newer method (but older than induction) at my folks a few years ago, which was pretty responsive (and really easy to clean), but gas was still more responsive, though the difference wasn't as stark.
Pretty much any hob would be better than the one I currently have, as there's absolutely no variability in temp, it's either on or off, which REALLY sucks!
Buy a hotplate, I got an induction hotplate for about $150 usd and even at 3000-5000btu output it is more powerful than my most powerful gas burner because it actually heats your pan, not the air, handle etc.
@@linuxman7777 That's a whole lotta money when unemployed and barely able to afford two meals a day for the last week of each month, so I'll pass, but thanks anyway.
@@ChrispyNut I have a nice one though, You can get a cheap one for about $60
I have an induction stove and it's brilliant! Whenever I visit my family and have to use their really slow electric stove, I realize how good I have it. Plus, gas stoves just freak me out!