As a young man in the army I've been a few times in the 'Teutenburgerwald' Even today the woodlands are still a militairy area. The Arminius statue is really impressive and a great place to visit.
@@travellerstoryteller Right, the Teutoburger forest is really large. The battle war far more north. Fact: The statue looks west, first reason bec the Romans came from the west and second bec the germans "Arch fiend" is France. From the stupid times, til 1945. After then germany dont hate France but themself.
This was the most consequential battle in world history, because the Romans dicided that it was to dangerous and not worth it to conquer lands beyond the river Rhine. Because of this fact Western Europe devided in a Roman and a Germanic part. This devision has been cause of conflict up until today. Both world wars in the 20th century may be attributed to this ancient geopolitical incident 9AD in the Teutoburger Forest in present Germany.
You are right, even though the Romans came back a few years later lead by general Germanicus and thoroughly defeated all Germanic coalitions led by Arminius ( for example battle of Idistaviso in 16 AD), emperor Tiberius recognized the little benefit compared to the danger and the cost to keep those territories and ordered the troops to come back behind the Rhein.
Sorry It Is not historically in this way, the german conquer was aboundoned. A new attemp by general Aullo Cecina, riked to finish in a base way likes teutoburgo, Battle o Pontes Longes, but then, little by little, after another series of winning battles by general Cesare Germanico , that at Idastivisio and Vallo Angrivariano (arriving with an army on the ships from North Sea) defeated the Cheruschi tribe and other allied. After It Cheruschi themselves killed Arminio the organizer of teutoburgo forrest ambush . Germanico was considered the "next best emperor" by all of the romans, so the emperor (not Augustus, but Tito I think, not so sure), being worried of his popularity, moved him to the East where few time afterwards was poisoned by the local Governor (a Roman). In Italy the funerals of Germanico where attended by so many people and today we still find murbles and inscriptions of his glory e how much he was beloved. So the real reason why the germanic tribes were not conquered any longer by Rome Is more related to internal fights of Power and lack of interest that the defeat of teutoburgo forest. Famous still today phrase "Vare , Vare, redde me meas legiones!" Cit. Augustus: "Varo, Varo, give me back my legions!" Meana that It was more Augustus himself to emphasize so much the defeat maybe becouse at the end of his fantastic reign (and being so old), decided to mantain the "Pax Romana," (his peace lasting so long) than restart a big campaign in Germany
For the conclusions: that you adress the separation of Europe in "Germans" and "Latins" people that being ti the second Word war can be discussed couse Italy and Germany were on One side and British (latinized, but more closed to german for language and traditions) were wit their enemies of the previous centuries, the French, so I don't know, can be or not....
Soldiers of invaders are not committed to fight up to sucrification. When they get a strong opponent, they will take the last option to return back to home land. So they do not fight bravely. But people who is being invaded have no other option instead of fighting bravely and defend themselves. They fight up to the last breath.
Highly interesting video thank you for the time spent on it. I'm very impressed by the standard of the commentary and editing for someone with only 18k subscribers. Keep it up to this standard and i'm sure this channel will explode with subscribers who are interested in well documented history videos like this one.
except the quality immediately dropped when he mentioned "flaming arrows" at 9:33. Bro is so influenced by hollywood. Every respectable historian knows that flaming arrows weren't a thing in ancient battle, (specially when it's raining).
Cannae was much greater, Arminius h used the blind trust of a unqualified superior ( Varus ). Certainly Hannibal was not trusted, he managed to lure them into a territory on which they regarded them selves as superior. Watch it here:
The Romans willingly made the tips of their pila of minor qualities, to prevent them from being thrown back at their lines, if they missed. Another effect was if they hit a shield the tip would twist and often weigh the shield down and so making them useless. The Romans did not understand, which impact of taxing the Germanics had. They had a system that a free man would become a slave to a debtor and worked for him for an agreed time, so in their eyes working for the Romans degraded them to slaves. Imposing Roman laws upon them even fueled the resistance, since they were often contradictory to their own traditional or tribal jurisdiction.
I once heard that dog tongues are actually more sterile than that of their human counterparts. Didn’t get the reference but wanted to join in on the convo, so there you go.
Oh, that! They had people who volunteered to cook for the Romans, and then it was a simple thing to mix pot in with their food. After that, the Romans didn't care about anything... (would I lie to you??)
This is a good video. The actual battle as shown by recent archeology has taken place near Kalkriese. In any case Germany today would not be without it. Thank you.😀
The content is amazing. Astounding why this video has so less views. Keep doing the amazing work and it'll be matter of time before you have million subscribers.
I personally think there’s too many videos repeating the same Eurocentric battles. How about some less researched in English language battles from the east?
They found a part of a wall where the Germanic tribes lored the Romans down to kill. To see the actual way they did everything was amazing. They had them cut through the woods where they were cut into different groups. They kept attacking them form behind and the sides to thin them out.
Catalaunian Plains would probably take the title of Rome's most legendary battle. It's like their final Hail Mary from what seems to be an unstoppable horde that is Attila the hun. If they lost there it probably would've caused the Empire to collapse in less than a decade :PP
As a kid living not far from the Wald I went to I think it was called Hermans Denkmal.I walked up the stairs and onto a lookout within the giant statue. interesting place to visit and in the 60s untouched.
Good except the defensive wall was initially erroneously identified as Germanic. They have more recently realized it was part of a roman (perhaps last) camp with standard roman trenches.
Don't forget the Bavarians during this time.. The roman emperors saw them as the elite groups, this was mainly because they were the only group of people who could cross the Lime (Rhine) armed on a horse. In later stages they surved as personal bodyguards for the emperors Nero and Tiberius. On some gravestones it said: Indus, Corpor Custos (bodyguard).
Im Jahr 15 v. Chr. eroberten die Legionen Roms das nördliche Alpenvorland bis zur Donau. Die Kontinuität der Flur- und Ortsnamen beweist, dass noch keltische Bevölkerungen zu diesem Zeitpunkt im Lande gewesen sein mussten, wie auch das Oppidum von Manching bei Ingolstadt zeigt, die Germanen dort jedoch noch nicht heimisch geworden waren. Der archäologische Befund verweist in weiten Teilen des heutigen Bayerns auf ein „fast menschenleeres Ödland“ für jene Zeit (S. Rieckhof, Das Keltische Jahrtausend.).
It wasn't too much of a 'battle' for the Romans. It was a well planned ambush, with an ineffectual Roman governor for a leader, one who was even warned (by a Germanic chieftain) of a potential plot but chose to ignore it. Yes, it was a terrible moment for Rome, but one that was well avenged by the Roman general Germanicus, who laid waste to numerous Germanic tribes in three epic battles. Though it took a little time, Rome wanted revenge...and got it!
Really can't see that it would've changed much. Rome was at its limits with the size of it's empire. Probably was better for the Empire in the long run as they didn't have so much land to defend.
Drusus's warring was inconsequential and by no means something close to pacification. Even the punitive campaigning after the Teutoburg battle didn't result in anything close to conquest.
The Roman Empire was doomed because they tried to expand too far - all empires fall for the same reason. If Augustus had withdrawn and consolidated the power of Rome instead of trying to conquer Germania, then the Roman empire might have survived - after all, the German tribes, like the Gauls, were more interested in fighting each other than in combining into a single force. However, even if this had happened, Roman power would probably have been weakened by the succession of depraved and dissolute emporers that followed Augustus - especially Nero. It's ironic that it was the people from 'Germania' that eventually sacked Rome and caused its ultimate downfall.
Deadliest battle? The toll of over 50,000 Romans in the battle of Carnie against Hannibal says it all. Still the highest toll for a single day of combat after more than 2000 years!
One of the problems with this broadcast is that it uses footage from Centurion and The Eagle films both of which are set in Britain, centring around the loss of the Eagle of the Roman 9th Legion predominantly Scotland but uses the footage to talk about campaigns in Germanica. Thats America for you. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story
You mean "Cannae". Yes? They estimate 70,000 romans lost their life at that battle. Roman mothers used to say to kids Hanibal ante portas (Hanibal is at the door) when they were disobedient
There was NEVER a year "zero". Right from 1BC to 1AD. Which is why centuries end on the year of the century's first numbers. The last year of the 1st Century was the year 100. The 20th Century ended with the year 2000. The first year of the 21st was 2001. And there is no "soft" "C" in the Celtic language. It's pronounced KELTIC. Unless you live in Boston.
The aftermath? The young Roman general Germanicus "no prisoners approach" led an invasion of the lands and tribes involved and either slaughtered the Germanic tribes one by one, as revenge. Took Arminius wife and child hostage and Arminius, got assassinated by fellow tribes members because he turned into an annoying tyrant. Germanicus would have completely obliterated Germania (as he already crossed the Rhine) but Tiberius Caesar, had concerns he was too popular with the Roman population and the military. Hence, the "mysterious death" of Germanicus afterwards.
Strangely, this scenario was repeated at a political level centuries later when the Catholic church sought higher taxes from northern Europe to fund the building of the Vatican. The result was the Protestant breakaway.
For nearly four centuries conflict between Romans and Germanic tribes was basically a one-sided contest. Beginning with Julius Caesar whooping Germans on every occasion till the middle of the fourth century. Teutoburg Forrest wasn't exactly the battle per se but an ambush of 3 legions under Varus who wasn't the brightest Roman General. Please also do not forget the immediate punitive expeditions by Tiberius and Germanicus after Teutoburg when Germans didn't dare stand in the open field and were running for their dear lives. Thanks to the stupidity of Varus and a pinch of luck Germans have something to brag about till today and trying to show us Teutorburg as a huge history turning point and heroic battle otherwise it would be deafening silence.
This video says this battle was the biggest defeat for the Romans, but I thought that battle was at Cannae where the Romans lost 70,000 legionaries in one day?
Interesting to consider what might have happened to the German language if the Romans had won...would it have become more latinized, with a structure more akin to French, Spanish and Italian? How might that have impacted English, which retains similarities to German?
It is not true that the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest was the deadliest battle. During the Battle of Cannae, about 70,000 Roman soldiers died against about 20,000 in the Teutoburg Forest
The deadliest battles in history - that's what we call all the videos on similar topics on our channel:). By the way, we will make a video about the Battle of Cannes soon
There's a certain significance to this battle though. This was the first major and deadliest defeat to Rome at the hands of people already subjugated by Rome. Cannae was more deadly overall but was inflicted by another empire who was repelling Rome. But I reckon Teutoburg forest was considerably more embarrassing for Roman prestige
The Roman legions gladly reenlisted former soldiers, who then became the "evocati" (the called ones). Due to their experience they were regarded a an elite force and recieved the double payment of the average legionary.
So basically the only way to defeat Rome was to betray Rome. Not only Rome gave the chance to be a citizen and high rank officer, they’ve also managed to break through many times. They been set up many times without success, romans were far superior. They’ve lost as heroes not as a betrayers. In fact for me they haven’t lost the battle. This is also vain as the whole Germany was conquered as a whole later on. So this doesn’t make any sense
you forget the sand grain Arminius. who created Arminius and his revenge desire. Yes the romans were betrayed. But this is the result of a mathematical equation. germanic tribe less freedom equals bad for your health. as a french i'm glad the germanic tribes won, and i also have the deepest respect for the romans soldiers won fought like lions. The courage of these legionaries is beyond words. but when you think of conquering a germanic tribe don't forget the math
Although this massacre have gains some upperhand in Germanic tribes favor thru Arminius. However, Augustus in rentiliation, he secured fertile lands and destroying those outlying villages, depriving of the adequate suitable lands for the Germanic tribes and fortify along the Rhine river. When the worst again winter (due to climate change) came and famine outside the Rhineland borders widespread chaos ensures and in the end. Arminius was been assassinated by one of the tribe's courtier also fearing that Arminius will dominating them as his Roman overlord did before.
Good that you remembered that the Romans came back and thoroughly defeated all Germanic coalitions ( e.g. Idistaviso in 16 AD) led again by Arminius who couldn't rely on the surprise effect of betraying this time.
Do you know Germania wildmen when they capture a Roman soldier, the Priests/druids stripped them down and tie them to a round rock to be sacrificed for their God. “In the name of our lord and spirits, take this sacrifice as a token of our loyalty”
Varo, who was a politician not a soldier, had been responsable of a big mistake. With the purpouse of saving time, instead of running the longer but safe way to the camp, chose the shorter but not safe way throughout swamps and forests. A real soldier would never have committed such a mistake.
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As a young man in the army I've been a few times in the 'Teutenburgerwald' Even today the woodlands are still a militairy area. The Arminius statue is really impressive and a great place to visit.
There was no Roman Empire and History is coded and fake. Proof of all CLAIMS Required. All Wars are of course Fake too.
But the local of the battle is not where the statue is!! Wrong place!! 😂😂
I went there with my class in high school. Must have been around 1969.
@@travellerstoryteller Right, the Teutoburger forest is really large. The battle war far more north. Fact: The statue looks west, first reason bec the Romans came from the west and second bec the germans "Arch fiend" is France. From the stupid times, til 1945. After then germany dont hate France but themself.
Hollywood would never make a movie about that battle…can you imagine a German would win something
Actually, there is a Netflix series about this.
@@jerrofcarjielmallorca175 not the same, talking about a big movie. There are tonnes of those in our history
What did we Germans do to deserve that treatment :(
@@CrniWukmass genocide
@@CrniWukWW1 and WW2
This was the most consequential battle in world history, because the Romans dicided that it was to dangerous and not worth it to conquer lands beyond the river Rhine. Because of this fact Western Europe devided in a Roman and a Germanic part. This devision has been cause of conflict up until today. Both world wars in the 20th century may be attributed to this ancient geopolitical incident 9AD in the Teutoburger Forest in present Germany.
You are right, even though the Romans came back a few years later lead by general Germanicus and thoroughly defeated all Germanic coalitions led by Arminius ( for example battle of Idistaviso in 16 AD), emperor Tiberius recognized the little benefit compared to the danger and the cost to keep those territories and ordered the troops to come back behind the Rhein.
France was not so roman.
Sorry It Is not historically in this way, the german conquer was aboundoned.
A new attemp by general Aullo Cecina, riked to finish in a base way likes teutoburgo, Battle o Pontes Longes, but then, little by little, after another series of winning battles by general Cesare Germanico , that at Idastivisio and Vallo Angrivariano (arriving with an army on the ships from North Sea) defeated the Cheruschi tribe and other allied. After It Cheruschi themselves killed Arminio the organizer of teutoburgo forrest ambush . Germanico was considered the "next best emperor" by all of the romans, so the emperor (not Augustus, but Tito I think, not so sure), being worried of his popularity, moved him to the East where few time afterwards was poisoned by the local Governor (a Roman). In Italy the funerals of Germanico where attended by so many people and today we still find murbles and inscriptions of his glory e how much he was beloved. So the real reason why the germanic tribes were not conquered any longer by Rome Is more related to internal fights of Power and lack of interest that the defeat of teutoburgo forest. Famous still today phrase "Vare , Vare, redde me meas legiones!" Cit. Augustus: "Varo, Varo, give me back my legions!" Meana that It was more Augustus himself to emphasize so much the defeat maybe becouse at the end of his fantastic reign (and being so old), decided to mantain the "Pax Romana," (his peace lasting so long) than restart a big campaign in Germany
For the conclusions: that you adress the separation of Europe in "Germans" and "Latins" people that being ti the second Word war can be discussed couse Italy and Germany were on One side and British (latinized, but more closed to german for language and traditions) were wit their enemies of the previous centuries, the French, so I don't know, can be or not....
Sorry It was Tiberio, After Augustus , not titus (70 aD), he envyed (and was warried by his popularity) Germanicus and this Is the main reason
Soldiers of invaders are not committed to fight up to sucrification. When they get a strong opponent, they will take the last option to return back to home land. So they do not fight bravely. But people who is being invaded have no other option instead of fighting bravely and defend themselves. They fight up to the last breath.
Well done. Quality production.
Highly interesting video thank you for the time spent on it. I'm very impressed by the standard of the commentary and editing for someone with only 18k subscribers. Keep it up to this standard and i'm sure this channel will explode with subscribers who are interested in well documented history videos like this one.
except the quality immediately dropped when he mentioned "flaming arrows" at 9:33. Bro is so influenced by hollywood. Every respectable historian knows that flaming arrows weren't a thing in ancient battle, (specially when it's raining).
Don’t forget Cannae…..maybe Rome’s darkest hour. This is a great and informative video. Thanks for posting.
We'll definitely do a Battle of Cannae video at some point:) Thanks for the idea!
@@call_of_history But remember to make a bet on Zama too!
Remember:
Rome lost many battles.
Won all the major wars.
And never fell.
Cannae was much greater, Arminius h used the blind trust of a unqualified superior ( Varus ).
Certainly Hannibal was not trusted, he managed to lure them into a territory on which they regarded them selves as superior.
Watch it here:
I wonder how the Roman military might would have stood strategically against Napoleon or Alexander if they had lived at the same time?
"Varus!
Varus!
Give me back my legions!!!"
As he pounded his head against the wall!
"now Men fear Germania forests" - Total war Rome II game ^^
The Romans willingly made the tips of their pila of minor qualities, to prevent them from being thrown back at their lines, if they missed. Another effect was if they hit a shield the tip would twist and often weigh the shield down and so making them useless.
The Romans did not understand, which impact of taxing the Germanics had. They had a system that a free man would become a slave to a debtor and worked for him for an agreed time, so in their eyes working for the Romans degraded them to slaves. Imposing Roman laws upon them even fueled the resistance, since they were often contradictory to their own traditional or tribal jurisdiction.
You forgot to mention that little village that still held out against the invaders. Rumor has it that they had some kind of majic potion. 😊
I heard there was this famous warrior named Asterix😅😅😅
I once heard that dog tongues are actually more sterile than that of their human counterparts. Didn’t get the reference but wanted to join in on the convo, so there you go.
Oh, that! They had people who volunteered to cook for the Romans, and then it was a simple thing to mix pot in with their food. After that, the Romans didn't care about anything... (would I lie to you??)
Their chief weapon designer is Fullautomatix 😂
Cannae's battle where 60,000 Roman (plus) soldiers lost their lives while facing Hannibal was their greatest defeat.
still won that war tho, they lost this one for germania...
Wish they'd make a decent movie about Hannibal. He was one for the Ages...
Thank you for your hard work and sharing this video.
I grove up closed to the location where this battle took place. Drunk literally my morning coffee on the field where the last stand was.
The Roman spears were made to easily bend, so if one hit your shield, you'd need to lose your shield or drag the spear around.
This is a good video. The actual battle as shown by recent archeology has taken place near Kalkriese. In any case Germany today would not be without it. Thank you.😀
Nice content. It’s educational and informative. Ive watched that movie and is really nice
Best historical explanation video on youtube..
Thank you ☺️
Legionaries, not Legionnaires. Legionnaires are soldiers in the French Foreign Legion.
Thank you. I've been making that point my adult life.
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This is picking up on spelling error, hum. Donc, parlons francais, mais attention aux erreurs!
A minor point, but a channel focused on history should know that there's no "year 0 AD". Year 1 BC is followed by year 1 AD.
Vala didn’t desert. He was sent by Varus to try to reach the camps by the river and bring back help. It was a dangerous gamble that didn’t pay off.
The content is amazing. Astounding why this video has so less views. Keep doing the amazing work and it'll be matter of time before you have million subscribers.
Thank you 😊
Very good video History always repeats itself.
It never repeats itself. That's a myth.
I personally think there’s too many videos repeating the same Eurocentric battles. How about some less researched in English language battles from the east?
Awesome video! This was an important battle! Not so much for anything accomplished, but the shock it caused Rome!
This is till date one the best depiction of historical event!
They found a part of a wall where the Germanic tribes lored the Romans down to kill. To see the actual way they did everything was amazing. They had them cut through the woods where they were cut into different groups. They kept attacking them form behind and the sides to thin them out.
Did they lore them then?
Great content.
👍 + New sub well-earned
Catalaunian Plains would probably take the title of Rome's most legendary battle. It's like their final Hail Mary from what seems to be an unstoppable horde that is Attila the hun. If they lost there it probably would've caused the Empire to collapse in less than a decade :PP
Its impressive that this battle which is considered a massive disaster for Rome is 1/4 of the disaster at Cannae 2 centuries earlier
As a kid living not far from the Wald I went to I think it was called Hermans Denkmal.I walked up the stairs and onto a lookout within the giant statue. interesting place to visit and in the 60s untouched.
Beautiful artwork.
The name Arminius is still used by a German firearms company (Weihrauch) who makes revolvers by that name.
This is an Oscar winning story thanks bro
'For how can a man die better when facing fearful odds? Than for the ashes of his fathers and the temples of his gods.'
0:40 the tenth group be like when they failed their task:
Yikes, we're in danger...
COULD U PLEASE TECH ME HOW U MAKE THIS TYPE OF VIDEOS CUZ THEY ARE AMAZING GREAT JOB MAN KEEP GOING
Good except the defensive wall was initially erroneously identified as Germanic. They have more recently realized it was part of a roman (perhaps last) camp with standard roman trenches.
When the trees start speaking German...
you die.
😂😂😂
Hey I’m not really sure if the title or thumbnail are accurate wouldn’t cannae be more of a deadly battle for the Roman’s?
Battle of Cannae 80k -100k dead Cannae:are you kidding me?
Don't forget the Bavarians during this time.. The roman emperors saw them as the elite groups, this was mainly because they were the only group of people who could cross the Lime (Rhine) armed on a horse. In later stages they surved as personal bodyguards for the emperors Nero and Tiberius. On some gravestones it said: Indus, Corpor Custos (bodyguard).
You seem to mix up bavarians and batavians
Im Jahr 15 v. Chr. eroberten die Legionen Roms das nördliche Alpenvorland bis zur Donau. Die Kontinuität der Flur- und Ortsnamen beweist, dass noch keltische Bevölkerungen zu diesem Zeitpunkt im Lande gewesen sein mussten, wie auch das Oppidum von Manching bei Ingolstadt zeigt, die Germanen dort jedoch noch nicht heimisch geworden waren. Der archäologische Befund verweist in weiten Teilen des heutigen Bayerns auf ein „fast menschenleeres Ödland“ für jene Zeit (S. Rieckhof, Das Keltische Jahrtausend.).
Great video!
It wasn't too much of a 'battle' for the Romans. It was a well planned ambush, with an ineffectual Roman governor for a leader, one who was even warned (by a Germanic chieftain) of a potential plot but chose to ignore it. Yes, it was a terrible moment for Rome, but one that was well avenged by the Roman general Germanicus, who laid waste to numerous Germanic tribes in three epic battles. Though it took a little time, Rome wanted revenge...and got it!
fascinating
Really can't see that it would've changed much. Rome was at its limits with the size of it's empire. Probably was better for the Empire in the long run as they didn't have so much land to defend.
Not even close to the deadliest battle in Roman history. Battle of Cannea with Hannibal for example. Nothing to learn here.
Germans have always been a brilliant country
Hitler ? Himmler ? Goering ? Ravensbruck ? Auschwitz ? Riga ?
Drusus's warring was inconsequential and by no means something close to pacification. Even the punitive campaigning after the Teutoburg battle didn't result in anything close to conquest.
The Roman Empire was doomed because they tried to expand too far - all empires fall for the same reason. If Augustus had withdrawn and consolidated the power of Rome instead of trying to conquer Germania, then the Roman empire might have survived - after all, the German tribes, like the Gauls, were more interested in fighting each other than in combining into a single force. However, even if this had happened, Roman power would probably have been weakened by the succession of depraved and dissolute emporers that followed Augustus - especially Nero. It's ironic that it was the people from 'Germania' that eventually sacked Rome and caused its ultimate downfall.
Civil war Battle of Antietam - 23,000 casualties in one day. Not a comparison, just another bit of history.
Deadliest battle? The toll of over 50,000 Romans in the battle of Carnie against Hannibal says it all. Still the highest toll for a single day of combat after more than 2000 years!
All the minor powers will take pride because they won a battle against the divine Rome...
Yet none of them won a major war.
One of the problems with this broadcast is that it uses footage from Centurion and The Eagle films both of which are set in Britain, centring around the loss of the Eagle of the Roman 9th Legion predominantly Scotland but uses the footage to talk about campaigns in Germanica. Thats America for you. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story
The Roman revenge was brutal tho.
Those legions deserved a better leader than Varus
They were not accepting that invading force , if only men were still warriors !
I thought the battle of Cannae was Romes largest defeat?, and to this day the largest loss of Italian life in a single day.
We will make a video soon about this battle as well:)
I thought Rome lost most men during the war with Hannibal against Scipio.
"We came, we saw, we perished."
u forgot about cannae
The battle of Cannan was more disastrous for the Romans.
Thanks for the idea, we are making a video about this battle too:)
Unfortunately Hannibal could win battles but not the war.
You mean "Cannae". Yes? They estimate 70,000 romans lost their life at that battle. Roman mothers used to say to kids Hanibal ante portas (Hanibal is at the door) when they were disobedient
Check out the Lake of Trasimene ambush also lead by Hannibal versus Roman army, fatal mistake Romans did
@@SmudjSalvatore And let's not forget Crassus' disasterous campaign against the Parthians.
many thanks. The models of the Romans..where we this done. they are superbly done.
Any movie name regarding this
In my opinion cannea is Rome's biggest defeat
“These Germans will never make real soldiers” little did they know.
So the moral of the story is, don’t tax people!
Which we’re all subjected to heavily these days and letting the governments get away with it
There was NEVER a year "zero". Right from 1BC to 1AD. Which is why centuries end on the year of the century's first numbers. The last year of the 1st Century was the year 100. The 20th Century ended with the year 2000. The first year of the 21st was 2001. And there is no "soft" "C" in the Celtic language. It's pronounced KELTIC. Unless you live in Boston.
OK, how will you do pronouncing letter C in Jugoslavija? 😎
@@saraprva4172 There is no Yugoslavia. It died with Tito. And the only C was the Adriatic
@@HemlockRidge Odakli si?
@@saraprva4172 South Central Pennsylvania.
romans didnt have a number for 0
Is this ALL of Roman history or Roman Empire history cause I’d say the battle of Cannae takes the cake of being romes worst loss
Thermopylae would take that accolade I think
If you want to see a video about this battle as well, we'll be sure to make this:)
@@call_of_history 100% add it
I was definitely rooting for the Germans on this one!
Barbarik the movie about this video!👍
The German tribes were the end of Rome's expansion.
lol no.
The aftermath? The young Roman general Germanicus "no prisoners approach" led an invasion of the lands and tribes involved and either slaughtered the Germanic tribes one by one, as revenge. Took Arminius wife and child hostage and Arminius, got assassinated by fellow tribes members because he turned into an annoying tyrant. Germanicus would have completely obliterated Germania (as he already crossed the Rhine) but Tiberius Caesar, had concerns he was too popular with the Roman population and the military. Hence, the "mysterious death" of Germanicus afterwards.
Strangely, this scenario was repeated at a political level centuries later when the Catholic church sought higher taxes from northern Europe to fund the building of the Vatican. The result was the Protestant breakaway.
?????????
There is no year zero! History goes from 1 B.C. to 1 A.D.
For nearly four centuries conflict between Romans and Germanic tribes was basically a one-sided contest. Beginning with Julius Caesar whooping Germans on every occasion till the middle of the fourth century. Teutoburg Forrest wasn't exactly the battle per se but an ambush of 3 legions under Varus who wasn't the brightest Roman General. Please also do not forget the immediate punitive expeditions by Tiberius and Germanicus after Teutoburg when Germans didn't dare stand in the open field and were running for their dear lives. Thanks to the stupidity of Varus and a pinch of luck Germans have something to brag about till today and trying to show us Teutorburg as a huge history turning point and heroic battle otherwise it would be deafening silence.
Varus where are my legions ???
Now now, child, you can’t have your legions *and* trek them through an enemy-infested forest.
Cal-va-ry is where Jesus was crucified. Cav-el-ry is horse mounted soldiers.
Cav-el-ry???? Cavalry!
Sometimes the ice cream licks back.
Funny they didn't have any scouts on horses checking for ambushes ahead .
This video says this battle was the biggest defeat for the Romans, but I thought that battle was at Cannae where the Romans lost 70,000 legionaries in one day?
Interesting to consider what might have happened to the German language if the Romans had won...would it have become more latinized, with a structure more akin to French, Spanish and Italian? How might that have impacted English, which retains similarities to German?
That's a very interesting thought! I think that it is just such seemingly insignificant things that can completely change the course of history.
It is not true that the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest was the deadliest battle. During the Battle of Cannae, about 70,000 Roman soldiers died against about 20,000 in the Teutoburg Forest
The deadliest battles in history - that's what we call all the videos on similar topics on our channel:). By the way, we will make a video about the Battle of Cannes soon
There's a certain significance to this battle though. This was the first major and deadliest defeat to Rome at the hands of people already subjugated by Rome.
Cannae was more deadly overall but was inflicted by another empire who was repelling Rome. But I reckon Teutoburg forest was considerably more embarrassing for Roman prestige
Interested in the a Amanitas and other fungi in the thumbnail
You might even find it a metaphor😉
25 years in army back than . I guess you had no choice about reenlisting
The Roman legions gladly reenlisted former soldiers, who then became the "evocati" (the called ones). Due to their experience they were regarded a an elite force and recieved the double payment of the average legionary.
So basically the only way to defeat Rome was to betray Rome. Not only Rome gave the chance to be a citizen and high rank officer, they’ve also managed to break through many times. They been set up many times without success, romans were far superior. They’ve lost as heroes not as a betrayers. In fact for me they haven’t lost the battle. This is also vain as the whole Germany was conquered as a whole later on. So this doesn’t make any sense
you forget the sand grain Arminius. who created Arminius and his revenge desire. Yes the romans were betrayed. But this is the result of a mathematical equation. germanic tribe less freedom equals bad for your health. as a french i'm glad the germanic tribes won, and i also have the deepest respect for the romans soldiers won fought like lions. The courage of these legionaries is beyond words. but when you think of conquering a germanic tribe don't forget the math
Lolwut Germany was never concquered by the romans, you clown.
But wow he allowed his Roman men reporting to him to be slaughtered.
Although this massacre have gains some upperhand in Germanic tribes favor thru Arminius. However, Augustus in rentiliation, he secured fertile lands and destroying those outlying villages, depriving of the adequate suitable lands for the Germanic tribes and fortify along the Rhine river. When the worst again winter (due to climate change) came and famine outside the Rhineland borders widespread chaos ensures and in the end. Arminius was been assassinated by one of the tribe's courtier also fearing that Arminius will dominating them as his Roman overlord did before.
Lesson never ever take enemy prisoners as hostages they'll retaliate
The Romans did not know the lay of the land.
I thought cannae had more Roman deaths
40 000
The romans weren't massacred, they were outsmarted and defeated in battle.
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Point of the story discipline and consequences something that lacks in many examples of the modern world
Good that you remembered that the Romans came back and thoroughly defeated all Germanic coalitions ( e.g. Idistaviso in 16 AD) led again by Arminius who couldn't rely on the surprise effect of betraying this time.
Why does everyone think the Romans just went away after this defeat? lol It's all great history to study
Oh, a butthurt Italian. 😊
400 years later, these germanic tribes sacked Rome for the first time, leading to the imperial downfall. Germania magna was never in roman hands.
@@AltesEisen81than germans called themself rulers of rome for 1000 years. I think its clear who won 😂
D Varusschlacht heißt das eigentlech u het ir hütige Region um Kalkriese stattgfunge, u nid öppe im Teutoburgerwaud wiä hiä dargschteut...😉
Do you know Germania wildmen when they capture a Roman soldier, the Priests/druids stripped them down and tie them to a round rock to be sacrificed for their God.
“In the name of our lord and spirits, take this sacrifice as a token of our loyalty”
Varo, who was a politician not a soldier, had been responsable of a big mistake. With the purpouse of saving time, instead of running the longer but safe way to the camp, chose the shorter but not safe way throughout swamps and forests. A real soldier would never have committed such a mistake.
I am surprised it was not renamed into Toteburg Forest.
Most videos I think was taken from the movie Gladiator
Encouraging to see an evil hoard of conquestors stopped by locals.
romans soldiers got depressed, not enough sun, too many tall trees and foggy swamps