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Pete is (as usual) making a nuanced point about pop v. punk v. performance v. rock, but Shelley Winters isn’t up to it. She sees it as all the same. It’s all punk rock to her.
This interview is absolutely brilliant. Pete was incredibly candid. These days, people are so guarded mostly because everything they say will be analyzed to death on social media platforms. Thanks for posting this. I have always loved The Who. To me, they are just behind Pink Floyd in terms of what appeals to my ear. Quadrophenia is a masterpiece. I put it ahead of Tommy.
Always weird when I go down a youtube rabbit hole ( In this case Pete Townshend interviews ) and you come across even more being uploaded continually, like this one uploaded hours ago. Loved watching Pete jamming with his dad here. Pete's playing was on point.
Surprised to hear 'I can see for miles' flopped. Loved it from the very first hearing. Still one of may favourite songs ever. Thanks for this chance to see Pete and his dad jamming. Wow!
Such a shame, he was a great host, all interviews seem more like friends talking, rather than the almost scripted rubbish that we get these days on TV chat shows.
Wish my dad would have done that just once in a while...he always froze rigid whenever I tried to give him a hug,as if I was radioactive or something.😔
The most wonderful thing about RUclips is being able to view materials, interviews, shows, etc from decades ago featuring your favorite artists(in this case Pete Townshend) that you didnt even know existed(because in this case it aired across the pond) and even if knowing of its existence had no way or hope of ever viewing.
Pete seems to have more of a focus on music rather than appearance which I heavily admire. He can focus and not get nervous on stage. I wish I could do that. I am also highly impressed with his guitar versatility. He can play blues if he wanted to.
I love Pete Townshend. Aside from his artistry, always a sharp dresser for one. For a guy who was not traditionally handsome at the time, I'm glad he didn't change anything in his face. He has beautiful blue eyes with dark hair, grey now, but he's made the most of what he's got. It's just an observation because more than ever now, people are extremely critical of looks and so many resort to plastic surgery to fit a mold. If Pete had fixed his nose, he would be kind of bland. I think he looks like an emperor.
I love this man. I wrote him a letter back in the late 1970's, and he answered me. I have a massive photo on my wall of him, which I've never seen anywhere else, and it's the greatest concert photo I've ever seen. I bought it as a poster in 1970. Above it is an autographed guitar from him. As I writer and a poet, he inspires me daily and that poster is in my direct view as I write. Thank you, Pete. You have touched the world.
Haha, Townsend always saying he likes Barney Kessel playing these kind of jazzruns. They all listen to Django ,and not Benny Goodman but Charlie Christian🎸
Remember this interview back in the 80s,was quite surprised at his politeness and how candid he was on various personal subjects-loved the duet with Pete and his Father at the end,they should have done that more often
13:12 mark was unique in that its an important issue one that unifies parents with their adult children. It shows how intently Petes Father is listening to his son and likely empathizing with his son’s experiences with drugs & drink as a musician. I truly Appreciate seeing this, thanks for sharing with us all. Cheers!!
I like how he goes "Then I became an alcoholic" and everyone laughs a tiny bit goes well yes, of course. Then silence. Btw, not too long after this this dude almost dies from a heroin overdose. COME ON PETE!
Pete may sometimes come across as arrogant, sometimes outspoken but underneath, there's a big softie I think. It's just not obvious. Shelley winters is absolutely lovely in this. A lovely and genuine personality. She was incredibly beautiful when she was young.
Never once thought of him as arrogant, ever. Always seemed very sweet and proper. And funny. Maybe his humor is misunderstood as arrogance? Idk, Must just be the American way.
@@FunkyMonk_96 Like the other guy said, he’s not arrogant. He’s confident because a certified genius. To some people, that comes off as arrogance. It’s a thin line lol “I’m so great” can be arrogant or confident. The deciding factor is, are they actually so great? And yes Pete is! Edit: Also, I’m American so it’s not a regional way of thinking. It’s just how he comes off to some people. They see him talking himself up and think he’s arrogant. They don’t realize he’s a genuine genius.
I asked Pete about this interview when he was active on Instagram. I liked it. He seemed embarrassed. Said he was very tired after touring & not happy with it. Viewing this again, he does seem a bit tired. But, I still think it’s great. Just can’t see anything wrong. Can you?
1:25 "You are the only rock band to survive intact since the 60s. Why would that be, do you think?" What a question to open with, considering that Mr. Keith Moon died in 1978! I'm amazed Mr. Townshend didn't get angry at that.
43 and just got into The Who. Pete always struck me as someone that scoffs at anything "American", but the more I learn about him the more I admire him and his contributions to rock music.
Richard Stilgoe - wrote comic tunes on a TV consumer show but went on to work with Andrew Lloyd-Webber. Michael Parkinson a great interviewer of a type that's rare now - he interviewed interesting people in such a way that they often opened up with him and with the other interviewees. It was not interviewer as star in their own right so questions were just to promote a product with no content. Jonathan Ross could achieve that height sometimes
He came from a similar upbringing to John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin in that his parents were travelling musician's. Like Jones he was known for arranging music..
There’s a bitter irony in that Pete would be in a clinic for heroin and cocaine addiction in short order, only to emerge clean the following year to embark on the “farewell” tour. So the talk of Keith, drugs and alcohol here must have been a tricky navigation to get through.
how did I miss this? I get to see Pete jam w/ his Dad, and bullshit w/ Shelley Winters. she really does still look great here. I'm still hot for her in 'Bloody Mama' ,which was past her prime, but that Tommy gun in her hands w/ the cigar, makes her hot.
Great to see this. The odd thing about I Can See for Miles is that Pete always says it sold bugger all. But actually it got to number 10 in the charts in the UK. which in those days meant pretty big sales. i wonder if he actually forgot that or what.
Haha, he wished a nr. 1 . Alice Cooper made a lot songs from that riff! Macca did Skelter after Pete announced he made the loudest song ever. 🥂( Empty glass again)
I thought Pete was exaggerating somewhat about 'I can see for miles' - it did very well in the charts. I think it was the fact that The Who had had a series of No2 hits, so No10 felt like a low showing!
How is it possible Pete is defending his music in 81 after tommy, who's next, quadrophenia, the who sells out, a quick one, ect? It just shows the incompatince of these interviewers. Don't let the destruction of the instruments distract you from some of the greatest rock music ever.
Bravo. 👏👏👏👏👏. Thanks so much for sharing. This is so much better than American talk shows. Always liked Pete. But when he knocked Abbie Hoffman up side the head at Woodstock, he became my hero.
I was in the audience, a 14-year-old lad. I think Michael may have been overlooking the fact that the Stones were still intact and others too no doubt.
Was Parkinson related to Holdsworth? Why did I see a Scotish Tee Vee strap just before a load of analogue tape noise. Not a dig I hope, I am 1/2 Scottish you know.
Pete is very restrained, but you can tell he really does not like to share the spotlight when someone else talks ... except his dad maybe! He still loves to talk.
He'd just come out of a couple of years of lost weekend into alcohol, coke, smack, ativan and more. He nearly died of an OD in a club toilet, but got saved, quite luckily. At this point, I think he'd very recently done a long stint in a nice rehab in California. Note that he looks trim and fit and full of beans.
@@ScottishTeeVee apparently she interrupts every guest on chat shows, including interrupting Oliver Reed in America, she also through a glass of water over him, Reed was totally sober and a gentleman.
I never saw Pete in this light. Between playing his guitar like that, him and his dad on stage jamming, deep discussions about life and the music scene, it's amazing. I have a new respect for Pete after seeing this. The same goes for Roger Daltrey.
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amazing, father and son together, it is pure magic...I never heard this before .
Glad you enjoyed it, I have more interviews with Pete from the same time about to go onto YT
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Pete is (as usual) making a nuanced point about pop v. punk v. performance v. rock, but Shelley Winters isn’t up to it. She sees it as all the same. It’s all punk rock to her.
Did anyone else feel weird when there were people laughing at 12:32, when Pete was talking about Keith's death?
Always liked Townshend. As well as being articulate, capable of handling theory, he was such a bloody good rocker.
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well put
Correct
He is a good speaker, making sensible conversation.
IS - still IS
Pete Townshend playing with his dad is so sweet. Thanks for posting this.
Pete always amazes me with his self honesty and erudite awareness, quite a remarkable person.
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This interview is absolutely brilliant. Pete was incredibly candid. These days, people are so guarded mostly because everything they say will be analyzed to death on social media platforms.
Thanks for posting this. I have always loved The Who. To me, they are just behind Pink Floyd in terms of what appeals to my ear. Quadrophenia is a masterpiece. I put it ahead of Tommy.
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Nobody exposes themselves through their lyrics more than Pete.
@Jimmy 5 Jabs gfy
@@bobwobbabble5151 100%true. Embarrassingly honest. A true artist.
Both rock operas are awesome.
RIP Michael Parkinson ....Long Live Pete Townshend.
Shelley Winters- she, too, is fascinating! She's 60 here and hanging out in Berlin with the Plasmatics- overall, a great interview.
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Always weird when I go down a youtube rabbit hole ( In this case Pete Townshend interviews ) and you come across even more being uploaded continually, like this one uploaded hours ago. Loved watching Pete jamming with his dad here. Pete's playing was on point.
The RUclips rabbit hole is so strange, I end up watching videos of WWII tanks being dragged out of swamps in Russia and or odd crap.
@@scoutthedoggie Ha ha ha! Just hit me in the funny bone because I relate.
1981-Townshend was in the depths of his cocaine and heroin use. Separated from his first wife; he went on a pretty huge binge.
Pretty obvious he was in complete denial. “I’ve never been into narcotics. By that I mean heroin and cocaine” 🤔
Surprised to hear 'I can see for miles' flopped. Loved it from the very first hearing. Still one of may favourite songs ever. Thanks for this chance to see Pete and his dad jamming. Wow!
It didn't flop-it got to number 10 in the Uk charts.
Thank you. It should have been no.1 for a long time!@@SusanBlakeley
RIP Parky. Townshend is 1 of many English music geniuses.
Such a shame, he was a great host, all interviews seem more like friends talking, rather than the almost scripted rubbish that we get these days on TV chat shows.
my brain: you should sleep
pete townshend:
How lovely to see Dad & son give each other a loving kiss..
Wish my dad would have done that just once in a while...he always froze rigid whenever I tried to give him a hug,as if I was radioactive or something.😔
@@mjh5437 Same mate.
Even on his death bed, i didn't get that damn hug lol.
The most wonderful thing about RUclips is being able to view materials, interviews, shows, etc from decades ago featuring your favorite artists(in this case Pete Townshend) that you didnt even know existed(because in this case it aired across the pond) and even if knowing of its existence had no way or hope of ever viewing.
Pete seems to have more of a focus on music rather than appearance which I heavily admire. He can focus and not get nervous on stage. I wish I could do that.
I am also highly impressed with his guitar versatility. He can play blues if he wanted to.
Love the Sparks shout out by Pete at 10:21. Sparks is such an underrated band.
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My idol. He’s a fckn genius. I’m seeing The Who tonight here in NY. 🍻
Just shy of 36 and Parky asked about touring... now 2022, more than twice that age, he and Daltrey on the road again
I love Pete Townshend. Aside from his artistry, always a sharp dresser for one. For a guy who was not traditionally handsome at the time, I'm glad he didn't change anything in his face. He has beautiful blue eyes with dark hair, grey now, but he's made the most of what he's got. It's just an observation because more than ever now, people are extremely critical of looks and so many resort to plastic surgery to fit a mold. If Pete had fixed his nose, he would be kind of bland. I think he looks like an emperor.
18:22 - Pete Townshend jamming with his dad !? Wow! Awesome!
It touched my heart.
I love this man. I wrote him a letter back in the late 1970's, and he answered me. I have a massive photo on my wall of him, which I've never seen anywhere else, and it's the greatest concert photo I've ever seen. I bought it as a poster in 1970. Above it is an autographed guitar from him. As I writer and a poet, he inspires me daily and that poster is in my direct view as I write. Thank you, Pete. You have touched the world.
I remember being allowed to stay up to watch this when I was a kid.
It does not seem so long ago, but in 6 months time this will be 40 years old 😲. And we are just a wee touch older than that😁
@@ScottishTeeVee
Lol true
Is this Pete's way of saying The Who were a swing band all along? (like Black Sabbath?)
Haha, Townsend always saying he likes Barney Kessel playing these kind of jazzruns. They all listen to Django ,and not Benny Goodman but Charlie Christian🎸
Shelley Winters is plastered but she gets into the conversation and moves it along, and eventually makes a point.
I am very impressed by Pete Townshend
"I Can See For Miles" was a brilliant mix of Power Pop and Psychedelia.
pete and his dad shouldve put out a jazz record...that wouldve been cool
shelly winters was insane
She was in her cups, most of the time.
This was great. Shelley Winters and Pete Townshend and Pete's dad! Thanks for sharing this.
Was just going to post this myself!
Shelley trying to be hip.
Remember this interview back in the 80s,was quite surprised at his politeness and how candid he was on various personal subjects-loved the duet with Pete and his Father at the end,they should have done that more often
One of the greatest guitarists ever
13:12 mark was unique in that its an important issue one that unifies parents with their adult children. It shows how intently Petes Father is listening to his son and likely empathizing with his son’s experiences with drugs & drink as a musician. I truly Appreciate seeing this, thanks for sharing with us all.
Cheers!!
Your Welcome, just glad you enjoyed it
I thought this too! This is an old comment (four months?) So I apologise if this is weird but yes!!!
Elvis Costello and his dad similar
This has it all: Pete Townsend and his dad, Shelley Winters, and of course non other than Richard Stilgoe!!!
I like how he goes "Then I became an alcoholic" and everyone laughs a tiny bit goes well yes, of course. Then silence.
Btw, not too long after this this dude almost dies from a heroin overdose.
COME ON PETE!
Very cool to be able to play music with your Dad.
aw, man, fantastic! insightful, funny, tearjerking; brilliant! pete was super ace, too.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Pete may sometimes come across as arrogant, sometimes outspoken but underneath, there's a big softie I think. It's just not obvious. Shelley winters is absolutely lovely in this. A lovely and genuine personality. She was incredibly beautiful when she was young.
Never once thought of him as arrogant, ever. Always seemed very sweet and proper. And funny. Maybe his humor is misunderstood as arrogance? Idk, Must just be the American way.
You've confused arrogance for confidence. Which of course is something he should have had given his genius.
@@FunkyMonk_96 Like the other guy said, he’s not arrogant. He’s confident because a certified genius. To some people, that comes off as arrogance. It’s a thin line lol “I’m so great” can be arrogant or confident. The deciding factor is, are they actually so great? And yes Pete is!
Edit: Also, I’m American so it’s not a regional way of thinking. It’s just how he comes off to some people. They see him talking himself up and think he’s arrogant. They don’t realize he’s a genuine genius.
She liked a drink or three, but loved her candor.
Just shows, guitar wise, he was not just a rhythm player. I never believed that anyway.
I always, and still do, put Pete up there as a great solo guitarist. Absolutely love his playing on all (eminence) fronts. :)
I asked Pete about this interview when he was active on Instagram. I liked it. He seemed embarrassed. Said he was very tired after touring & not happy with it. Viewing this again, he does seem a bit tired. But, I still think it’s great. Just can’t see anything wrong. Can you?
Nothing at all, he seems happy enough to me.
@@ScottishTeeVee This was Pete's cocaine period. 6 months later he would almost die from a heroin overdose. His drinking was out of control too.
Yes, I could tell he was being less than honest when talking about giving up drugs. So happy he finally did kick them aside!
@@dee_seejayWell, the Plasmatics weren’t great musicians. And Wendy Williams was a stripper and actress more than a vocalist. So he wasn’t wrong.
@@dee_seejay Shelley had bigger hips, I'll give her that. Not sure how hip she was as an aging sort of movie star, but whatever...
He and BB could have played a great blues number. His dadvis skilled. Love the harass. Jazz.
Thank you so much for posting this! I remember watching it in 1981 with my parents. Pete jamming with his dad - that was brilliant! What memories....
OMG -- Pete and Shelly on the same stage???!!!! Fantastic!
1:25 "You are the only rock band to survive intact since the 60s. Why would that be, do you think?"
What a question to open with, considering that Mr. Keith Moon died in 1978! I'm amazed Mr. Townshend didn't get angry at that.
Pete is probably used to dealing with such questions from journalists and TV presenters who really do not know everything about the band.
@@ScottishTeeVee Yeah, to be fair he did write 'Jools And Jim'… wasn't that in 1980? Getting that out must've been cathartic...
He foreshadowed the first of the many "final" tours - which took place the following year.
43 and just got into The Who. Pete always struck me as someone that scoffs at anything "American", but the more I learn about him the more I admire him and his contributions to rock music.
Richard Stilgoe - wrote comic tunes on a TV consumer show but went on to work with Andrew Lloyd-Webber. Michael Parkinson a great interviewer of a type that's rare now - he interviewed interesting people in such a way that they often opened up with him and with the other interviewees. It was not interviewer as star in their own right so questions were just to promote a product with no content. Jonathan Ross could achieve that height sometimes
He came from a similar upbringing to John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin in that his parents were travelling musician's. Like Jones he was known for arranging music..
Fantastic! I don't recall seeing this before - I was probably travelling to or from one of the shows on that 1981 tour at the time!
"I've never been into narcotics"...COME ON, PETE!!!
Pete thank you so very much for sharing this with us. I've always enjoyed your work. Thank you for the perspective. Thank you twice.
You are very welcome
Love Pete... this is terrific. Thanks for posting!
My pleasure! More interviews from the same time still to come
Beautiful. Too bad they dimmed the lights on the band tho'.
There’s a bitter irony in that Pete would be in a clinic for heroin and cocaine addiction in short order, only to emerge clean the following year to embark on the “farewell” tour. So the talk of Keith, drugs and alcohol here must have been a tricky navigation to get through.
how did I miss this? I get to see Pete jam w/ his Dad, and bullshit w/ Shelley Winters. she really does still look great here. I'm still hot for her in 'Bloody Mama' ,which was past her prime, but that Tommy gun in her hands w/ the cigar, makes her hot.
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@@ScottishTeeVee thanx for the GREAT content.
Interesting to see Pete from 1981, once a talent always a talent - brilliant stuff. Well done Parky.
Glad you enjoyed it Richard
Who doesn’t love this?
Surely there must be demand for great talk shows in this country, again.
You would think, but there just is now one on TV at all, it all seems scripted.
He's got the same hooter as his dad! It's nice to see them play together ) I wonder if Elvis Costello ever played with his dad ? He was his double.
Great to see this. The odd thing about I Can See for Miles is that Pete always says it sold bugger all. But actually it got to number 10 in the charts in the UK. which in those days meant pretty big sales. i wonder if he actually forgot that or what.
I recall it being a pretty big hit in the states. One of my all-time faves!
Haha, he wished a nr. 1 . Alice Cooper made a lot songs from that riff! Macca did Skelter after Pete announced he made the loudest song ever. 🥂( Empty glass again)
I thought Pete was exaggerating somewhat about 'I can see for miles' - it did very well in the charts. I think it was the fact that The Who had had a series of No2 hits, so No10 felt like a low showing!
Look at you with the jazzy blues swing...!
He has late 80's Michael Keaton hair here and it's glorious.
How is it possible Pete is defending his music in 81 after tommy, who's next, quadrophenia, the who sells out, a quick one, ect? It just shows the incompatince of these interviewers. Don't let the destruction of the instruments distract you from some of the greatest rock music ever.
Yeah, smashing guitars was the ancient past. More relevant was Winters' curiosity about why the punks were so angry.
what the hell?!! I never even knew such a thing existed … mind thoroughly blown.
As a major Who fan I love listening to Pete's interviews. Listening to Pete speak is almost like story time. He is so dam interesting! Long Live Rock!
Pete Townshend He is my favourite person
I love the way he gently and effectively puts down that purveyor of bollocks Stilgoe.
Jazzy blues solo from Pete's Tele!
That was great! Wonderful ! 😊
Absolutely fantastic! Thank you, ScottishTeeVee.
I'm glad you found and enjoyed this interview 🎸🙂
"Well this one goes to eleven."
Bravo. 👏👏👏👏👏. Thanks so much for sharing. This is so much better than American talk shows. Always liked Pete. But when he knocked Abbie Hoffman up side the head at Woodstock, he became my hero.
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I was in the audience, a 14-year-old lad. I think Michael may have been overlooking the fact that the Stones were still intact and others too no doubt.
Really intelligent. His interviews are very interesting
This was FANTASTIC! Thanks for uploading it!
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Was Parkinson related to Holdsworth? Why did I see a Scotish Tee Vee strap just before a load of analogue tape noise. Not a dig I hope, I am 1/2 Scottish you know.
Pete is very restrained, but you can tell he really does not like to share the spotlight when someone else talks ... except his dad maybe! He still loves to talk.
Watching in 2024. Wonderful insite to musician that's been a long time favourite of mine. The kid turned out alright.
Are Pete Townshend and Will Self brothers from other mothers?
Great stuff. Thank you for sharing it.
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Wow that’s special just for the Parky theme at the end. Pete is as eloquent as ever, but seems, a bit, little boy lost.
He'd just come out of a couple of years of lost weekend into alcohol, coke, smack, ativan and more. He nearly died of an OD in a club toilet, but got saved, quite luckily. At this point, I think he'd very recently done a long stint in a nice rehab in California. Note that he looks trim and fit and full of beans.
Rock-'n'-roll has always been about feeling and connecting with people. If you can't feel it, or it doesn't connect with you - what good is it.
All due respect to Shelley this is a perfect example of a celebrity inserting herself into a conversation in which she’s not invited.
I’ve never seen him play lead guitar like that! He’s normally known mainly for his rhythm guitar.
Still love Schecter Telecaster most of all his sic string brushes. Underappreciated tone
Back when grown-up human beings could behave in a more grown-up human way.
That’s Shelley Winters, right?
It is
The one & only!
@@BushyHairedStranger Shelley was a lush.
Cliff looked so sad when Pete was talking about drugs...
Winters was 61 then. I'd have gone to bed with her.
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How fucking cool was that giving Dad a big kiss. Pete Townshend is a musical genius and one of the best people who came out of the 60s
Shelly Winters lol...I never quite got her. Great post!
Me neither. At the time I was not sure if she was acting, trying to be funny or just drunk
@@ScottishTeeVee apparently she interrupts every guest on chat shows, including interrupting Oliver Reed in America, she also through a glass of water over him, Reed was totally sober and a gentleman.
@@johnwilliams2479 ~ Threw. *
@@5jerry1 much obliged
THIS IS GREAT! THX!
I never saw Pete in this light. Between playing his guitar like that, him and his dad on stage jamming, deep discussions about life and the music scene, it's amazing. I have a new respect for Pete after seeing this. The same goes for Roger Daltrey.
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Shelley should have stayed off the sauce before the show.
Do you know who's next? I know of people who savor saying, "I can help who's next".
Must have been some band. Pete Townsends dad and Elvis Costellos dad in the same lineup.
So Shelly Winters says she heard the shots that killed Lennon? Learn somethin every day.
Thanks for uploading this. Pete’s always interesting.
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Passion is the key word here. For everyone.😮
this was a good one
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