+AllForFire - Unless of course Garrus was leading a different team. His father did get a task-force assigned to him after ME2 to prep for the Reapers... but than again, Garrus probably wouldn't have been considered a merc by that point.
@@mitchellbaran7917 The Initiative also left no more than a month or two after Shepard turned himself/herself in to the Alliance, so it would have had to have been a pretty tight timeframe for that to happen.
From what I've seen Jaal and Liam definitely seem like bros (their interaction on the Tempest and Movie Night), and Jaal seems to be the only one who doesn't get royally pissed off at Liam in the Nomad (everyone else Liam gets on their bad side, sometime almost intentionally).
DLRX They definitely have that siblings vibe going. They're constantly trying to piss each other off, but they get along and probably care about one another. 😅
Liam is almost as open as the Angara, and he's agressive to boot. Jaal would be used to people with his personality and candor and would have a far easier time understanding where he's coming from, when he means offense or when he just needs to blow off steam with his words. He doesn't take offense and ribs right back at him. That's why they make such great bros :D
According to Peebee herself, she's "one hundred and change" which sounds like while she is similar to Liara's age during the Mass Effect Trilogy but completely lacks the maturity making her one hell of a teenager.
you have to remember Liara comes from upper crust society with her mother being a well respected (before ME:1) Matriarch and we know very little about Peebee's other than her father is an Elcor
@blackvial We know she had an older half-sister who by the time she was born was also a Matriarch. She and their mom tag teamed raising her and seems the root of her rebellion and needing to be different. I don't think it is lack of training so much as her hating the volume of training and deciding not to be.
I'm replaying the game right now, and I totally get the Liam hate. He's a complete screw-up, he's rude, he's argumental, he doesn't understand the chain of command, he has the sort of personality thst makes him think learning the swear words is the most important part of learning a language - basically, he's mentally stuck as a 13 year old. I'm pretty sure the reason there is always spit in his food on Aya is because he's kind of a dick. I've just done the pirates on the Kett ship mission. Fun time, but Liam had given Nexus security codes to some random Angara 25 minutes after they met, and just after the same Angara told him to have Ryder steal proprietary food technology from the Aya market. Rather than trade tech for tech. Which just screams trustworthy individual. I honestly wish there was a way to kick him off my crew.
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human You left out self-righteous, judgemental, and impatient. The way he acts after his loyalty mission really pisses me off, and it pisses me off more that he gets the last word, showing that he learned nothing from his royal fuck-up. Seriously, I've known guys who've been court martialed for far less. Giving away sensitive information without authorization, which nearly fell into the hands of an enemy? If the Initiative were a military operation, he'd be confined (or exiled in their case) or executed (if they charged him for treason). His nature, and his need to have everything go right immediately, makes him a danger to his squad and the Initiative. Lexi called it right, he needs thing to go right so badly, that he falls apart when things go wrong. I can see why he couldn't cut it as a cop.
I want to like him, his heart is definitely in the right place but he constantly gets on people’s bad side and he whines when things don’t go his way. I can handle all that, but he pissed me off when he insulted Vetra and Peebee.
The_SCP _Foundation I can’t stand his behavior after he gave away classified information to a random woman, then bitches after you tell the nexus to change codes
birds eat hot peppers and excrete the seeds intact. its how a number of hot pepper plant species propagate. mail carriers in certain parts of the us frequently get attacked by wild turkeys and the mail carriers found that pepper spray had no effect on the turkeys. in fact birds don't really have a sense of smell.
Because he acts like a brat when things don’t go his way. Also what he said to Vetra about bringing Sid with her to a new galaxy pissed me off so much I wanted Ryder to biotic throw him
You know the weird thing is that Liam talks about the scarred up Turian merc a lot, but the only time Garrus is really scarred up is after you recruit him in ME2, so they would of have had to meet in the few months between Arrival and the Initiative departing OR the devs wanted us to just know and send "fuck the timeline". It seems to pass the Refrigerator test though
However, Garrus only gets his scars after his whole team after killed, when you turn up on Omega and he takes that rocket to the face. Then he spends all his time calibrating the Normandy SR-2's main gun. And after ME2, he goes straight back to Palaven to work on his father to get some kind of Reaper taskforce organised. So...this meeting with a scarred up Turian could not possibly have been Garrus, even though it was clearly meant to be Garrus. My guess - Liam is making shit up about how he tangled with Archangel to make himself seem cool.
Okay, but NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE ROCKY HORROR REFERENCE??? Out of all the media from the centuries of stuff Liam could have sent Jaal, he send him RHPS? Fuck yes.
Everyone always brings up the time difference about the scarred up turian thing... Honestly I just assumed they said it like that so everyone would recognize it as Garrus, even if it's not technically lined up right at the right time lol
"I'm here to observe the initiative, not reassure it." The fact that Liam needs all that reassuring tells me he should never have been on an advance landing team. No wonder the cops kicked him out.
BrainConqueror80 not to mention he literally gives what’s basically classified information to some random angara woman, who then got captured by an enemy
Chris ruskin Well, other than in the nomad, Jaal and Liam become serious hardcore Space Bros. Actually, I think it's a state dependent thing. Nobody hates Liam this much unless they're in the nomad with him.
Having listened to some of his interactions with the other squadmates, I've arrived at the conclusion that dude's a fucking dick. Hope he enjoys his spot as 2nd string bench warmer.
I'm replaying the game right now, and I totally get the Liam hate. He's a complete screw-up, he's rude, he's argumental, he doesn't understand the chain of command, he has the sort of personality thst makes him think learning the swear words is the most important part of learning a language - basically, he's mentally stuck as a 13 year old. I'm pretty sure the reason there is always spit in his food on Aya is because he's kind of a dick. I've just done the pirates on the Kett ship mission. Fun time, but Liam had given Nexus security codes to some random Angara 25 minutes after they met, and just after the same Angara told him to have Ryder steal proprietary food technology from rhe Aya market. Rather than trade tech for tech. Which just screams trustworthy individual. I honestly wish there was a way to kick him off my crew.
"Ah... we have people who aren't funny too." SAVAGE!!!
I realize Im kinda randomly asking but do anybody know a good site to stream newly released tv shows online?
"Fuck over." --Jaal, 2017
Marissa Dawes
I’m using that from now on XD
Want to know what the funniest thing would be? If that 'scarred up turian' wasn't Garrus. Just some scarred up turian.
nothingtosee yessss, I would love it if it just ended up some random turian guy. That would make for the best reveal ever XD
It would HAVE to be just some scarred up turian. Because Garrus only got his scars AFTER his team was killed.
+AllForFire - Unless of course Garrus was leading a different team. His father did get a task-force assigned to him after ME2 to prep for the Reapers... but than again, Garrus probably wouldn't have been considered a merc by that point.
@@mitchellbaran7917 The Initiative also left no more than a month or two after Shepard turned himself/herself in to the Alliance, so it would have had to have been a pretty tight timeframe for that to happen.
"dachshunds with erections can't climb stairs" Liam stOP IT
From what I've seen Jaal and Liam definitely seem like bros (their interaction on the Tempest and Movie Night), and Jaal seems to be the only one who doesn't get royally pissed off at Liam in the Nomad (everyone else Liam gets on their bad side, sometime almost intentionally).
DLRX They definitely have that siblings vibe going. They're constantly trying to piss each other off, but they get along and probably care about one another. 😅
Liam is almost as open as the Angara, and he's agressive to boot. Jaal would be used to people with his personality and candor and would have a far easier time understanding where he's coming from, when he means offense or when he just needs to blow off steam with his words. He doesn't take offense and ribs right back at him. That's why they make such great bros :D
"Peebee acts 12 but she's probably 400" LMAO so true
According to Peebee herself, she's "one hundred and change" which sounds like while she is similar to Liara's age during the Mass Effect Trilogy but completely lacks the maturity making her one hell of a teenager.
you have to remember Liara comes from upper crust society with her mother being a well respected (before ME:1) Matriarch and we know very little about Peebee's other than her father is an Elcor
@blackvial We know she had an older half-sister who by the time she was born was also a Matriarch. She and their mom tag teamed raising her and seems the root of her rebellion and needing to be different. I don't think it is lack of training so much as her hating the volume of training and deciding not to be.
And Liam acts like a 4 year old!!
So much Liam hate... I liked the guy. Although I completely understand why others don't.
I'm replaying the game right now, and I totally get the Liam hate. He's a complete screw-up, he's rude, he's argumental, he doesn't understand the chain of command, he has the sort of personality thst makes him think learning the swear words is the most important part of learning a language - basically, he's mentally stuck as a 13 year old. I'm pretty sure the reason there is always spit in his food on Aya is because he's kind of a dick. I've just done the pirates on the Kett ship mission. Fun time, but Liam had given Nexus security codes to some random Angara 25 minutes after they met, and just after the same Angara told him to have Ryder steal proprietary food technology from the Aya market. Rather than trade tech for tech. Which just screams trustworthy individual. I honestly wish there was a way to kick him off my crew.
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human You left out self-righteous, judgemental, and impatient. The way he acts after his loyalty mission really pisses me off, and it pisses me off more that he gets the last word, showing that he learned nothing from his royal fuck-up. Seriously, I've known guys who've been court martialed for far less. Giving away sensitive information without authorization, which nearly fell into the hands of an enemy? If the Initiative were a military operation, he'd be confined (or exiled in their case) or executed (if they charged him for treason). His nature, and his need to have everything go right immediately, makes him a danger to his squad and the Initiative. Lexi called it right, he needs thing to go right so badly, that he falls apart when things go wrong. I can see why he couldn't cut it as a cop.
I want to like him, his heart is definitely in the right place but he constantly gets on people’s bad side and he whines when things don’t go his way. I can handle all that, but he pissed me off when he insulted Vetra and Peebee.
The_SCP _Foundation I can’t stand his behavior after he gave away classified information to a random woman, then bitches after you tell the nexus to change codes
"Don't dream it, be it" DID LIAM SEND JAAL ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW?!?!?!
Hmmm, Angara are immune to extremely spicy food, but candy is scorching hot? I don't know what is worse....
they are like birds then. you can pepper spray a turkey and it will not be phased.
Jordan Gallardo why do you know that? lol
birds eat hot peppers and excrete the seeds intact. its how a number of hot pepper plant species propagate. mail carriers in certain parts of the us frequently get attacked by wild turkeys and the mail carriers found that pepper spray had no effect on the turkeys. in fact birds don't really have a sense of smell.
im pretty sure the angara have a sense of smell too, but then again this is all science fiction. interesting fact about the birds though.
I don't get why people dislike Liam. He's such a quirky character. It makes things quite interesting.
Because he acts like a brat when things don’t go his way. Also what he said to Vetra about bringing Sid with her to a new galaxy pissed me off so much I wanted Ryder to biotic throw him
let the bromance start
"I was a cop, I know when there's spit in my food." Damn Son! 😲 I guess cops are hated in any Galaxy. 😬
no everyone does to liam not cops in general
1:00 Fuck over. That's the best right there!
Ryder: If you 2 don't start getting along I am going to turn this nomad around and no one is going to get to kill kett!
You know the weird thing is that Liam talks about the scarred up Turian merc a lot, but the only time Garrus is really scarred up is after you recruit him in ME2, so they would of have had to meet in the few months between Arrival and the Initiative departing OR the devs wanted us to just know and send "fuck the timeline". It seems to pass the Refrigerator test though
Well they did depart between ME2 and ME3 so there'd be plenty of time for them to meet.
However, Garrus only gets his scars after his whole team after killed, when you turn up on Omega and he takes that rocket to the face. Then he spends all his time calibrating the Normandy SR-2's main gun.
And after ME2, he goes straight back to Palaven to work on his father to get some kind of Reaper taskforce organised.
So...this meeting with a scarred up Turian could not possibly have been Garrus, even though it was clearly meant to be Garrus.
My guess - Liam is making shit up about how he tangled with Archangel to make himself seem cool.
I mean if you think about it Liam could have met Garrus on the Citadel during ME2 or maybe Liam might have just seen Garrus in passing
Jaal always has a spot on my team...... hes awesome.....
I didnt know i needed this until SAM kept interrupting the conversations and points where id have a cheesy smile
Okay, but NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE ROCKY HORROR REFERENCE??? Out of all the media from the centuries of stuff Liam could have sent Jaal, he send him RHPS? Fuck yes.
Everyone always brings up the time difference about the scarred up turian thing... Honestly I just assumed they said it like that so everyone would recognize it as Garrus, even if it's not technically lined up right at the right time lol
7:24 Ah! Mordin can help with tha-...dammit.
"I'm here to observe the initiative, not reassure it." The fact that Liam needs all that reassuring tells me he should never have been on an advance landing team. No wonder the cops kicked him out.
BrainConqueror80 not to mention he literally gives what’s basically classified information to some random angara woman, who then got captured by an enemy
"Fuck Over" 😂
Jesus, does anybody put up with Liam's shit other than Ryder?
Chris ruskin Well, other than in the nomad, Jaal and Liam become serious hardcore Space Bros. Actually, I think it's a state dependent thing. Nobody hates Liam this much unless they're in the nomad with him.
anyone whos taken a family road trip knows the hate that can brew from being stuffed in car for hour on end
Having listened to some of his interactions with the other squadmates, I've arrived at the conclusion that dude's a fucking dick. Hope he enjoys his spot as 2nd string bench warmer.
I'm replaying the game right now, and I totally get the Liam hate. He's a complete screw-up, he's rude, he's argumental, he doesn't understand the chain of command, he has the sort of personality thst makes him think learning the swear words is the most important part of learning a language - basically, he's mentally stuck as a 13 year old.
I'm pretty sure the reason there is always spit in his food on Aya is because he's kind of a dick.
I've just done the pirates on the Kett ship mission. Fun time, but Liam had given Nexus security codes to some random Angara 25 minutes after they met, and just after the same Angara told him to have Ryder steal proprietary food technology from rhe Aya market. Rather than trade tech for tech. Which just screams trustworthy individual.
I honestly wish there was a way to kick him off my crew.
Did he say the scarred merc was a Turian.
The merc could have been Zaeed.
Nah you meet an exile called Bain massani on eos who says this father was a big score merc. That merc is zaeed.
Liam, the Carth of Andromeda
Wow a lot of people don't like Liam.
they are boyfriends
Still hate Liam
Same. The longer I hear him talk the more I hate him.
ReapingPhant0m And survey says, you still don't matter. Cause he and Jaal are bros.