Applied 4 months ago for the expedited process. Havent even had the medical scheduled yet after being told it would be a month. For a country that cries about not having a military, you guys sure are slow.
@@Banks-pn6gn think twice about joining. Look up Equitas Society and no duty of care for injured soldiers in Canada. Just wait till they ship you off to some war zone and reduce your benefits in half like they did to then while they were Afghanistan.
Better contact your file manager, not surprisingly, they lost their files from time to time, also unless you bother them, they wouldn't move. Believe or not, recruiters sitting in the center, not professional at all. I would call him or her till got your medical scheduled, if nothin' happened, tell them if i can talk to your Sgt. or MWO, I just want to drop off my file if anything heard in a matter of a month. then they will do sth for you.
Not trying to make you upset when I say this, but you are going to wait A LOT longer then you should, especially for reserves. I've been enrolled since early February and have had two BMQs cancelled... because of minimum funds and short staff. The hiring process was mostly a joke except for my FORCE test. Its a disgrace.
I was in the Canadian military. If you want to retain soldiers, treat them better, stop making them listen to PowerPoint presentations about LGBTQ and stop sending them to fight a politician's/rich man's war.
@@jarvy251 At the time I was. After releasing, I educated myself and realized I no longer was. And it's not a job by the way, it's a duty/sacrifice, no matter in what capacity you served.
@ yes, they get care but there is no duty to provide that care and whatever that care is, it is at the generosity of the government. There is no guarantee or obligation to compensate you for those injuries and they have been reducing and making the benefits restrictive for years. The care you receive is also dependant on your ability to work and not all veterans are disabled. There are degrees, but our most disabled veterans are the most disadvantaged in the system and can’t fight for them selves. Next time you talk to your Army buddies mention there’s no duty of care. They probably haven’t figured it out yet.
@@notlikely4468 I'd probably hazard a guess that it might have something to do with it. I lost the use of my knee in the Canadian Army, and then was just shoved out into civilian life with no veterans benefits, no medical coverage, nothing. Ever since then I've been sure to caution everyone away from joining the Canadian Forces, who might have been considering it. I tell them all the same thing, if they're seriously dedicated to helping NATO and contributing to the Commonwealth, and Canadian national security, then join the British or Australian Army instead. They actually have helicopters, hospitals, and bullets.
@@notlikely4468 trust me they count on it. You are encouraged to keep quiet about your injuries. Many don’t seek help and it certainly adds up and you become geriatric at a much much younger age.
Wait. They don't want to be hazed, equipped with garbage, sent to fight in a war with no clear and reasonable objectives that can't actually be won, forced to take dubious medical treatments, and then thrown away when they're injured?
As a retired military veteran (1967-96) & a 3rd generation to have served I would offer that Canada needs to care enough to make equipping our military properly & in a timely manner a priority. Both traditional governing parties & the voting public have never made the status quo of our military a priority. They just want the military to show up when needed. Neglect doesn’t staff a military.
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@darius-uj1jv You remind me of a forum friend who made a "judge" account, except every "corrected" rewritten phrase was revolving around dеерthroating, ВВС, stepmoms, DP, B-plugs, etc.
Emasculating men. Also, strong men or so called strong men don't complain on the internet about other men stripping away their manhood. It's not scene as manly.
...and then we had to on-the-fly hammer AC units into our tanks that were destined for that same combat zone, because our governments couldn't be arsed to modernize much beyond Korean & Vietnam era equipment. The fact the RCAF is still flying CF-18's as our "frontline" combat plane is just beyond sad. IIRC, we'll have a whole whopping 4 shiny new F-35's by 2026, or is it 2028?!
No disrespect to the Pte., but maybe start talking to those with 5 or more years in. You'll likely get more substance as to why the CAF is dying and no one sticks around.
The only official answer that those with more than five years in will get is suck it up buttercup or go cuddle with your boyfriend. Most senior NCOs and officers would laugh at you for bringing up anything like that. They would flip the situation around and put the blame on you. They would say that this is happening because you lack leadership and because you lack intestinal fortitude. Those senior NCOs and officers just want to get that money in their bank accounts. Nobody cares.
Largest cuts to solider/veteran benefits were under Stephen Harper Conservatives while at the same time increasing commitments in Afghanistan. Trudeau at the very least brought back lifelong pensions for injured veterans, and isn't heavily involved with boots on the ground in any other wars.
@@ramrod9556 Ya I was in the last combat tour in Afghanistan. Within the entire 1RCR battalion we had 3 women in the infantry. That's 3 total out of alpha company, bravo company, charles company, and foxtrot company.
I signed up, passed the fitness and cfat with flying colours. Was told i could have any position with my scores, passed the interview... then they started putting tampons in mens washrooms and promoting women and started putting rules in about "denialism." It totally put me off. Plus the process went on for over a year when it could have been quicker if my recruiter was more organized. Joined my local fire department instead
Yeah I'm not military just a cadet but my confusion when I went to a recreational facility went into the bathroom and found tampons confused the sh## out of me didn't realize they did that elsewhere in Canada too, I hate all this lgbtq stuff.
Never forget what the Liberal Government, Justin Trudeau said "They (the Vets) are just asking for more than we can afford". Perhaps that has something to do with it?
They can't afford it because we need to send Billions to Ukraine and hundreds of millions to pay for abortions in "developing countries". Gotta have priorities.
nobody wants to fight for a country that doesnt fight for them or their rights, just take covid for example, the government forced me to lose my job and go bankrupt, why would i ever do anything for this government. genuinely i want to do everything agaisnt this government that i can
You think most soldiers care? Nope. We bleed green... but it is not bad to learn about how to get along. If you have a problem with serving with folks from all walks, it is not a job for you.
@@s66458--- When the neighborhood looks nothing like me, I stop caring about the neighborhood. Nations are meant to be ethnically and culturally homogenous.
its because they pay enlisted privates $30k/year. with all the hours you spend working training etc, its like what, $3/hr? plenty of our active soldiers are living in poverty, and when they get out, its more of the same, probably worse. that and it takes 2 years for the beaurcracy to get the paperwork done to actually finalize the onboarding, so most just give up on it.
When you're in the training system the pay ain't great but you're getting room and food once u hit p3 as a private you're making 63k before tax also not including if you're in a trade with spec pay not to mention all the benefits you get and vacation time
3,614 * 12 = 43,368. 52956 in year 2. 63648 in year 3. - Maybe do a bit of googling. Canada is one of the best paid militaries in the world. - But yes, we can and should do better.
@willmont9738 around 3 years but you could also go the reserve route and transfer to reg force after you hit p3 or get to cpl if you're worried about paying the bills
Your a professional victim. I was in the military for 10 years. The housing deduc and food dec is a solid deal, in fact If I was allowed id stay on that because it was WAYYYY cheaper than having a PMQ and buying your own food, that you had to prepare and it wasn't all you can eat.
The canadian military needs to figure out procurement 1st before it hires anyone. $450,000 for a chev colorado painted green with the glass taken out, and no roof is a great example. 25 years to buy a new pistol is another great example. Wars started and ended before we could buy gear that was needed.
Thats the fun part, procurement is mostly civilian controlled and 70% civilian bureaucracy. The CAF knows what it wants bust has to spend 10 years getting the paperwork in order for the paper pushers in the other branches of government to approve it.
@@Mygg_Jeager few weeks ago. A few platoons tested the new sleeping bags in Alaska to find out they are not warm enough. Could have been a few thousands dollar job but ended up costing millions, like 34 millions. They wound up using vintage ones instead xd
It takes a year or more for a PR to get an application approved for a reservist basic training. Even longer for regular force. By the time it gets approved, they may already have less interest in joining. If you are a citizen, it takes way less time to get approved. It takes more than 3 years for a recent immigrant to be granted a citizenship. Recent immigrants want to serve, its only the process that takes way too long.
@JM-bf6pz Excellent point. There is definitely no lack of volonteer to sign up. It just takes too much time and frustrations to even make it to enrolement. By then, they are already completely disillusionned. Once in, it just gets worse. There's a retention issue, however the dissatisfaction level is much greater than what the retention issue shows. Many just don't quit as they are are too afraid to start over again in this Liberal economic world where budgets balance themsevles.
lol you don't get to go to the military schools unless you come from the upper class. Otherwise, they tell you to go get your own education on student loans, and then when you do that and go back in for recruitment, they tell you that having student loans makes you a liability. They'll also give you a serial number and rank (officer cadet) and all that magically disappears when you actually jump through their hoops. Ask me how I know all this.
@@bigfan2452 Because I went through it all myself a decade ago. They told me to get a degree on my own dime, and they would pay it off when I joined up after. When I brought that up after during recruitment, the female officer laughed in my face between bouts of menopausal screaming. In fact, she was mad because she had to explain to me how that would place me in a higher pay grade than she was.
Women should be safe when they serve and granted the same opportunity - but the country under justin castreau seems eager to step over most men applying. Tampons in the men's rooms........what in the actually hell ???
@@TBone-s7y They were already pushing DEI long before Trudeau. I had to deal with diversity-hire officers under Harper and they had zero interest in recruiting poor, rural, skilled Canadian men (which was always the prime demographic of the CAF). Fascists always require a struggle to justify themselves and their struggle is against Canadians.
@jarvy251 How much does a private make after taxes? Is it around $1,500 per month? And how much does a lieutenant officer make after taxes? About $2,400 per month?
@jarvy251 Most of the bases are tearing down and not rebuilding single quarters on base because they are so old. They don't want to take care of the troops. CFB Esquimalt has single quarters and they kick members out on the street where rent is starting at 2k+ for single room apartments. PMQ rent is based on the local economy and being in one disqualifies you from CFD which does not take in to account the price of gas, food, and other daily expenses. From coast to coast the infrastructure is a mess. If we tried putting refugees in the buildings our members work and live in Canada would be tried with crimes against humanity. The is not a problem Trudeau created. This is a problem created from decades of neglect. It is just whenever the Liberals take power they do spend more money, it's that they misspend it on stupid Liberal polices that does nothing for the operational fitness of the CAF.
@katat4649 @bradenahmet343 Despite our federal public service growing by 40% in the last decade or so, it struggles to screen and process enough applicants to enroll about 50% of what the Forces has the need to train. The Department of National Defence now has MORE consultants than it has uniformed members. This situation is just asinine. I hope you get through this administrative mess and get on with your training soon.
I applied for the arm forces 2 months ago and haven’t heard back ???!!! I call every week and get so call back. If they are so desperate why aren’t they recruiting me??!!
I’ve had thoughts of joining before but nearly everyone in the military says don’t do it. The culture needs to be fixed, pay structures (you could make more money in a civilian job not risking your life) and fix the application process, you could be waiting for months before you even get a callback. Also the long contracts with mandated degrees for the airforce could maybe be pulled back. Just some thoughts 💭
Apparently you can’t apply via in person with a paper application at the local armoury, it’s too pragmatic and efficient. You only exist if the “mineralists” say you do.
Maybe it's because reservist pay alone is jokingly horrible. I'd make the same amount of money (or more) at any minimum wage job than I would as a reservist at my local base.
You make roughly 13.75 an hour as a recruit. You literally can go work at McDonald’s and make more money . Also the male washrooms won’t have tampon dispensers
We had two pay sheets we signed. If it was green we'd be payed and if it was pink, we probably wouldn't be payed. You never knew which was up until you got there.🙂👍
You do get disability tax credit it's just a pain. They'll just fight every year and claim you don't qualify. They just paid me back for 6 years in February for claiming I didn't qualify when in fact, I did. Now , they're claiming I don't have an approved form again to try and shake some money. It's a constant battle with them. It's almost like the CRA doesn't want disabled vets to have anything
I think total respect for our armed forces is needed . bring back stephen harper. Please 🙏 get rid of the trudeaus period before it's too late and this must happen soon like yesterday
Nobody wants to defend a country that doesnt value them. Also, if you have to train military to be weak, they wont risk their lives. I once spoke to an international student who said our army training is a joke. He is not wrong.
This is not complicated. Just promise soldiers a single family detached home in any major city. It worked in medieval times. It will work now, especially with the housing market so cost prohibitive.
My application has been in processing at the Reserves for over a year and they haven't responded to emails no more. If I got a response in the past, the status remained unchanged... despite being given a conditional job offer. I'm not surprised applicants walk away. It's a snake eating its own tail at the CAF, really. For every brand-new applicant, one applicant in processing drops out for they're waiting too long. Trust me, they have enough applicants in the pipeline. It's not like they don't have enough interest.
DND is a joke, I applied just under 3 years ago and have not even had an interview yet. I passed my CFAT and spent over $1,000 on medical forms for the CAF just to be told recently that a doctor from the PMO doesn't believe I am physically fit enough even though I am 23 years old 6'2 180 lbs... Not to mention, DND just received another budget cut on the civilian side in October, they can't even afford to grow the military salary wise even if they wanted to.
Its been almost a decade since I was in the reserves, but I can remember the paperwork to join being kind of a hassle. Obviously proper background checks need to be done, but I feel like a more streamlined process could help the recruiting. Retaining on the other hand seems like a larger issue to me. Having a better kit available might help. Feeling like your government is investing in the best possible equipment for you can go a long way to boosting morale (imo)
I hate the RCMP so because of that I will not join the army. If the RCMP treats citizens better then maybe I would feel the need to join and protect my country but not anymore as I am in a war already against the RCMP
*Maybe instead of giving billion dollars to counties that hate Canada. dump them into the military so the military has enough funds and resources fro ppl to want to join. Not making the Canada and the military the world laughingstock*
I am scheduled for my fitness testing Next month in Reserves as a vehicle technician!!! No more Aptitude Test!!!I really want this PT job in the CAF Reserves!!!
@ejdks37681 Nope, they will train you, and you will get paid during training.Real nice gig as vehicle technician, you can stay in the Army, or you can leave the Army and go for a civilian job.
Shift your marketing to excitement and past Military accomplishments by CAF like D-Day landings etc, perhaps reinvent the uniform from CADPAT- chronic known underfunding doesn't exactly instill confidence for young men and women wanting to join - recruits wants to be taken care of and welcomed - it takes a lot to leave your family and join the military.
Its the most crap job there is for not great pay, childish rules and regs and a chance to go fight over some corperate interest somewhere. I dont think youre fixing that anytime soon.
As an applicant who was born in another country there was an 18 month wait between my physical and background check. By the time the check was performed I'd have to go through another physical. That's a huge problem. The private sector can get it done in 6 weeks. What's the holdup? In the end I just gave up. Not worth waiting a couple of years to get into bootcamp.
Canadian born and raised but will be looking into the British Royal Marines or USMC (I'm a triple citizen) because I have no desire to be a part of the Canadian Military given what I've seen and researched
They don't pay remotely enough to live where the bases are located. We have hundreds of service members living in actual tents. They turn down fully qualified applicants for the most ridiculous reasons after wasting months of their time There is nowhere remotely enough equipment to do the job. Bullying is very real, and sexual assaults not rare. Very little support for those injured while serving.
I got declined for using an inhaler (I can still do the physical activity). My brother is still waiting on a medical to be scheduled (5 months into the process) Still keep getting told "3 more weeks" IF we can even get ahold of the recruitment offices lmfao. They need to remove some restrictions and make the recruiting process easier.
You need to be a transwoman or woman to be in Canadian military now. Even if you aren't you will be seen as one. That is the level of force/strength the Canadian military exudes lately. Who wants to be a part of that.
Use the South Korean or the Israili model. A basic military training for kids, may be highschool kids. Many will appreciate the military service. This will transform Canada, just like how it transform S Korea. There will be solidarity, and a sense of love for the country. Discipline on the canadian population, a sense of belongingness.
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Applied 4 months ago for the expedited process. Havent even had the medical scheduled yet after being told it would be a month.
For a country that cries about not having a military, you guys sure are slow.
lololol.
Foreigners get the expedited hiring process like in anything else with DEI mandates
@@Banks-pn6gn think twice about joining. Look up Equitas Society and no duty of care for injured soldiers in Canada. Just wait till they ship you off to some war zone and reduce your benefits in half like they did to then while they were Afghanistan.
Better contact your file manager, not surprisingly, they lost their files from time to time, also unless you bother them, they wouldn't move. Believe or not, recruiters sitting in the center, not professional at all. I would call him or her till got your medical scheduled, if nothin' happened, tell them if i can talk to your Sgt. or MWO, I just want to drop off my file if anything heard in a matter of a month. then they will do sth for you.
Not trying to make you upset when I say this, but you are going to wait A LOT longer then you should, especially for reserves. I've been enrolled since early February and have had two BMQs cancelled... because of minimum funds and short staff. The hiring process was mostly a joke except for my FORCE test. Its a disgrace.
I was in the Canadian military. If you want to retain soldiers, treat them better, stop making them listen to PowerPoint presentations about LGBTQ and stop sending them to fight a politician's/rich man's war.
The bureaucrats in Ottawa can't even be bothered to provide adequate funding.
All on board except for the last part, you sign up to the military to fight our battles, that includes ones you don't agree with.
I was in the Canadian military, and if you're not prepared to fight a "politician's war" you're probably in the wrong job.
@@jarvy251 At the time I was. After releasing, I educated myself and realized I no longer was. And it's not a job by the way, it's a duty/sacrifice, no matter in what capacity you served.
@@dylanbacklund7655 At the time I had that mentality. After releasing, I educated myself and realized I no longer did.
Every politician should be a reservist in order to be in politics
my MP is retired from the CAF
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My MP was a lieutenant-colonel in the army and commander of a regiment in Afghanistan. Forgot his name though.
Edit: now I remember, Harjit Sajjan
In combat arms
No, the reserves are absolute dog water and give a false sense of service.
Poor men do not want to fight rich men's wars.
That's always been the case. No one wants to fight for a country's government that inherently hates their citizens, which is what we have now.
@@YardPrep00 So true. I do not want to serve in a military in which the country seems eager to weaken its men.
I like that ....that is such a true statement. Thankyou
Yeah I’d never fight for this country I used to be patriotic that was before I realized how much Canadian society and the government hate men.
I’d honestly rather fight for Russia than Canada at this point. At least Russia never did me wrong personally.
🔥No Duty of Care for injured soldiers or Veterans. Who wants to join when they legally don’t have to care for you?🔥
@ yes, they get care but there is no duty to provide that care and whatever that care is, it is at the generosity of the government. There is no guarantee or obligation to compensate you for those injuries and they have been reducing and making the benefits restrictive for years.
The care you receive is also dependant on your ability to work and not all veterans are disabled. There are degrees, but our most disabled veterans are the most disadvantaged in the system and can’t fight for them selves.
Next time you talk to your Army buddies mention there’s no duty of care. They probably haven’t figured it out yet.
Nobody in their 20's ever thinks they'll get hurt or killed
That might be a reason for attrition at age 40
But it doesn't factor into recruiting
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And I know a lot of women who are happy in Saudi arabia. Wouldn't call it the norm.
@@notlikely4468
I'd probably hazard a guess that it might have something to do with it. I lost the use of my knee in the Canadian Army, and then was just shoved out into civilian life with no veterans benefits, no medical coverage, nothing. Ever since then I've been sure to caution everyone away from joining the Canadian Forces, who might have been considering it. I tell them all the same thing, if they're seriously dedicated to helping NATO and contributing to the Commonwealth, and Canadian national security, then join the British or Australian Army instead. They actually have helicopters, hospitals, and bullets.
@@notlikely4468 trust me they count on it. You are encouraged to keep quiet about your injuries. Many don’t seek help and it certainly adds up and you become geriatric at a much much younger age.
I’ll never serve a country that absolutely despises me. Sorry. 🤷🏼♂️
Why defend a country that makes you into some type of "violent criminal" for simply defending YOURSELF ?
....asking for a friend.🤣
you must be from India.
well said.
@@satanspy or any POC really
Same I was born here and Canada hates their own more than anyone else can’t wait to leave this country is lost
Wait. They don't want to be hazed, equipped with garbage, sent to fight in a war with no clear and reasonable objectives that can't actually be won, forced to take dubious medical treatments, and then thrown away when they're injured?
Thas Crayzy 😂
Say covid mrna shots, and stop dancing around it.
@@theScotian24crazy*
And the women dont want to be abused
Bingo.
Why would anyone chose to fight right now when our country is lead by an stupid Egotistical clown
Actually this would be the time to serve since we are in peacetime and you don't have to risk life and limb for your pay...
@@JosephLucienVanBelleghem
That sounds like a woman's logic tbh. Not the kind of logic that defends nations.
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As a retired military veteran (1967-96) & a 3rd generation to have served I would offer that Canada needs to care enough to make equipping our military properly & in a timely manner a priority. Both traditional governing parties & the voting public have never made the status quo of our military a priority. They just want the military to show up when needed. Neglect doesn’t staff a military.
Your 100% right
The problem is, young men don't want to sign up to the kind of military that put the tampons in the men's room and asks what your pronouns are
Well said. Thank you .
@@AC-zt2ky *you're
Canada needs its own weapons driven nuclear power status otherwise gonna be a landfill of 3rd world...
If they can send billions to Ukraine, they sure can pay our active members more and pay more and treat retired veterans with more respect.
they treat the funeral respectfully, very respectfully.
They can't SKIM millions if they pay veterans more.
turdeau would rather waste billions on other foreign useless causes than bolster Canada's military why do you think NATO is so pissed at him.
That's the truth
@@Dam-a-fence kind of the bare minimum but ok
Look at the way they are treated while they serve and after they serve, and even after they’re gone
Couldn't even have a moment on silence of remembrance day
Does fighting and potentially dying for Canada even pay well enough to own a home in Canada?
nah, you would probably have a roommate that cooks curry every meal.
No but investors will love you paying for it through extreme rents prices.
From experience. No. I couldn't even begin to imagine trying to buy a house right now. Can't even afford to leave base and still afford to enjoy life.
Depends where you're posted.
@@IanAva-t5l LOL WTF?!
It's obvious why. Why would you defend a country that doesn't support you.
Sooo many reasons on why men won't join the Canadian military anymore
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Use of "on":
The word "on" is incorrect here because it is not the appropriate preposition for introducing reasons. In English, "reasons" are typically followed by the preposition "for," as in "reasons for why." Alternatively, the phrase can be simplified by omitting the preposition entirely, saying simply "reasons why." The expression "reasons on why" is a result of unnecessary wordiness and incorrect collocation (the habitual pairing of words in natural language).
Correction: "Sooo many reasons why men won’t join the Canadian military anymore" or "Sooo many reasons for men not joining the Canadian military anymore."
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"Sooo": The elongated "Sooo" is an informal spelling and is generally only used in casual online communication or to emphasize tone in a non-standard way. For formal or neutral writing, stick to "So."
"won’t": Although "won’t" is grammatically correct, in a formal context, "will not" might be preferred for clarity and to maintain a more polished tone.
"anymore": The use of "anymore" here is correct if the intent is to imply that men previously joined the military at higher rates, but no longer do. However, this phrasing might sound slightly awkward depending on context. An alternative could be "today" or "nowadays" if referring to a current trend rather than a stark cutoff.
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More formal version: "There are many reasons why men no longer join the Canadian military."
Casual but polished version: "There are so many reasons why men aren’t joining the Canadian military anymore."
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Men? women serve too...
not many Men now a days.
@darius-uj1jv
You remind me of a forum friend who made a "judge" account, except every "corrected" rewritten phrase was revolving around dеерthroating, ВВС, stepmoms, DP, B-plugs, etc.
@@Darius-uj1gv🤓
Maybe attacking licensed gun owners and demasculinating men probably isn't helping.
😅 men demasculinated their own sons.
Exactly. Why serve in a military for a country that wants to cancel and/or weaken its men ?
Emasculating men.
Also, strong men or so called strong men don't complain on the internet about other men stripping away their manhood. It's not scene as manly.
Yup. Priorities of this government are completely backwards.
Very well said @@TBone-s7y
I was going to join the Canadian military in 2007. Seen our troops in the desert in green camo. Seeing that alone changed my mind.
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...and then we had to on-the-fly hammer AC units into our tanks that were destined for that same combat zone, because our governments couldn't be arsed to modernize much beyond Korean & Vietnam era equipment.
The fact the RCAF is still flying CF-18's as our "frontline" combat plane is just beyond sad.
IIRC, we'll have a whole whopping 4 shiny new F-35's by 2026, or is it 2028?!
Troops had cadpat in 2007.......
"They (wounded veterans) are asking for more than we are able to give right now." Guess who said that?
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YOU SUCK!!
No disrespect to the Pte., but maybe start talking to those with 5 or more years in. You'll likely get more substance as to why the CAF is dying and no one sticks around.
It's like asking someone on their honeymoon about marriage, maybe they were the only DEI available?
@@inquisitorsquish5422I got that vibe.
My thought exactly
The only official answer that those with more than five years in will get is suck it up buttercup or go cuddle with your boyfriend. Most senior NCOs and officers would laugh at you for bringing up anything like that. They would flip the situation around and put the blame on you. They would say that this is happening because you lack leadership and because you lack intestinal fortitude. Those senior NCOs and officers just want to get that money in their bank accounts. Nobody cares.
Why join up with an employer that discards you and disdains you if you get injured on the job?
Going to war under Trudeau’s command?!! Are you kidding me?!!
Largest cuts to solider/veteran benefits were under Stephen Harper Conservatives while at the same time increasing commitments in Afghanistan. Trudeau at the very least brought back lifelong pensions for injured veterans, and isn't heavily involved with boots on the ground in any other wars.
well said
They’re staying away BECAUSE of the DEI, and relaxed standards.
If you are serious about having a fighting force, you need men plain and simple.
Lool
@@ramrod9556 Ya I was in the last combat tour in Afghanistan. Within the entire 1RCR battalion we had 3 women in the infantry. That's 3 total out of alpha company, bravo company, charles company, and foxtrot company.
I signed up, passed the fitness and cfat with flying colours. Was told i could have any position with my scores, passed the interview... then they started putting tampons in mens washrooms and promoting women and started putting rules in about "denialism." It totally put me off. Plus the process went on for over a year when it could have been quicker if my recruiter was more organized. Joined my local fire department instead
Currently going through the process too, and I agree, they are understaffed yet takes a year for someone to finally enter? It don't add up
Yeah I'm not military just a cadet but my confusion when I went to a recreational facility went into the bathroom and found tampons confused the sh## out of me didn't realize they did that elsewhere in Canada too, I hate all this lgbtq stuff.
Ill say you probably weren't military material to begin with if a tampon scares you lmafo
Hateful Liar.
if you stuck with it and did logistics you might enjoy it. Fire Department is just welfare with girlbosses. Paramedics have the real job
We have 1000's of new "Canadians " of military age, let them prove they want to be here
They however have loyalty to their 'old country'
We don't need those in our military....we've already been invaded...now you want them in charge??? SMFH.
3x as many Indians fought for the British than u Canadians
I don’t want these “new Canadians” anywhere near weapons.
How did you prove you want to be here?
I wanted to join the military but the past 8 years we had an anti-Canadian ruler so why would I enlist?
you mean pro corporation. which they all are. its a farce.
U a trudeau ho
This entire country is suffering under the most egregious mismanagement
Criminal negligence.
Never forget what the Liberal Government, Justin Trudeau said "They (the Vets) are just asking for more than we can afford". Perhaps that has something to do with it?
Maybe why they started pushing MAiDs?
They can't afford it because we need to send Billions to Ukraine and hundreds of millions to pay for abortions in "developing countries". Gotta have priorities.
I refuse to fight for this government
nobody wants to fight for a country that doesnt fight for them or their rights, just take covid for example, the government forced me to lose my job and go bankrupt, why would i ever do anything for this government. genuinely i want to do everything agaisnt this government that i can
Time to quit crying and brush up that ol' resume bucko!
No one wants to fight for this canada.
You dont retain with DEI
You think most soldiers care? Nope. We bleed green... but it is not bad to learn about how to get along. If you have a problem with serving with folks from all walks, it is not a job for you.
@@s66458--- didn't some dei lesbian lady just sink a warship the other week?
@@s66458--- Exactly. We dont want to die for DEI. Have fun
@@s66458--- When the neighborhood looks nothing like me, I stop caring about the neighborhood. Nations are meant to be ethnically and culturally homogenous.
@@s66458--- More tampons in the men's restrooms will surely attract new recruits 😂😂
I wonder what we have to fight and *die* for anymore in Canada, besides high home prices?
Yeah and just to feed bureaucracy
You need to keep your Indian citizens safe. Make sure they r provided with enough curry? Butter chicken etc ...
🎉
Thank you
its because they pay enlisted privates $30k/year. with all the hours you spend working training etc, its like what, $3/hr? plenty of our active soldiers are living in poverty, and when they get out, its more of the same, probably worse. that and it takes 2 years for the beaurcracy to get the paperwork done to actually finalize the onboarding, so most just give up on it.
I was considering to join, i currently make $55k a year and i pay mortgage. That pay cannot do anything for me.
When you're in the training system the pay ain't great but you're getting room and food once u hit p3 as a private you're making 63k before tax also not including if you're in a trade with spec pay not to mention all the benefits you get and vacation time
3,614 * 12 = 43,368. 52956 in year 2. 63648 in year 3. - Maybe do a bit of googling. Canada is one of the best paid militaries in the world. - But yes, we can and should do better.
@@KennethMcDonald-f9g how long does it take to hit p3? My bills including utilities is around $4000 a month
@willmont9738 around 3 years but you could also go the reserve route and transfer to reg force after you hit p3 or get to cpl if you're worried about paying the bills
Horrible Pay, Housing deductions AND food deductions from the pay, even if your on base. Horrible care when your out. And nclusion and DEI hires.
Your a professional victim. I was in the military for 10 years. The housing deduc and food dec is a solid deal, in fact If I was allowed id stay on that because it was WAYYYY cheaper than having a PMQ and buying your own food, that you had to prepare and it wasn't all you can eat.
@JosephLucienVanBelleghem Thanks for your service.
boohoo. get a job
@@KyleAthollHunter1 I want our forces to get better funding and better equipment and better benefits and better pay.
Horrible pay? What do you do?
Not one wants to go to fight other countries war!!
The canadian military needs to figure out procurement 1st before it hires anyone. $450,000 for a chev colorado painted green with the glass taken out, and no roof is a great example. 25 years to buy a new pistol is another great example. Wars started and ended before we could buy gear that was needed.
don't forget the sleeping bag fiasco🤣
Thats the fun part, procurement is mostly civilian controlled and 70% civilian bureaucracy. The CAF knows what it wants bust has to spend 10 years getting the paperwork in order for the paper pushers in the other branches of government to approve it.
@@chehsinOhh that must have been after my time, when and what was that?
@@Mygg_Jeager a few weeks ago. Check it out. It looks like they gave the contract to their friends that sell sleeping bags😂
@@Mygg_Jeager few weeks ago. A few platoons tested the new sleeping bags in Alaska to find out they are not warm enough. Could have been a few thousands dollar job but ended up costing millions, like 34 millions. They wound up using vintage ones instead xd
Wait no one who immigrated recently wants to serve?
Not with the slow recruitment system
It takes a year or more for a PR to get an application approved for a reservist basic training. Even longer for regular force. By the time it gets approved, they may already have less interest in joining. If you are a citizen, it takes way less time to get approved. It takes more than 3 years for a recent immigrant to be granted a citizenship. Recent immigrants want to serve, its only the process that takes way too long.
@JM-bf6pz Excellent point. There is definitely no lack of volonteer to sign up. It just takes too much time and frustrations to even make it to enrolement. By then, they are already completely disillusionned. Once in, it just gets worse. There's a retention issue, however the dissatisfaction level is much greater than what the retention issue shows. Many just don't quit as they are are too afraid to start over again in this Liberal economic world where budgets balance themsevles.
Whem you get a check to sit on your ass why would they.
No, they just want to get served. They Canada we once knew is no more.
The military is a great way to get an education without the student loans. The issue is nobody wants to be in an underfunded unappreciated military.
lol you don't get to go to the military schools unless you come from the upper class. Otherwise, they tell you to go get your own education on student loans, and then when you do that and go back in for recruitment, they tell you that having student loans makes you a liability. They'll also give you a serial number and rank (officer cadet) and all that magically disappears when you actually jump through their hoops. Ask me how I know all this.
@@vovin8132How do you know all this?
@@bigfan2452 Because I went through it all myself a decade ago. They told me to get a degree on my own dime, and they would pay it off when I joined up after. When I brought that up after during recruitment, the female officer laughed in my face between bouts of menopausal screaming. In fact, she was mad because she had to explain to me how that would place me in a higher pay grade than she was.
@@vovin8132Is the Canadian military a DEI organization
@@bigfan2452
He doesn’t, he’s just speaking right out of his…
Just focus on dei and lgbtq stuff that will work.
😅😅
Women should be safe when they serve and granted the same opportunity - but the country under justin castreau seems eager to step over most men applying. Tampons in the men's rooms........what in the actually hell ???
That's what the far right focuses on. It's all they talk about. Why are you so obsessed with other people's genitals and sex lives?
@@TBone-s7y They were already pushing DEI long before Trudeau. I had to deal with diversity-hire officers under Harper and they had zero interest in recruiting poor, rural, skilled Canadian men (which was always the prime demographic of the CAF). Fascists always require a struggle to justify themselves and their struggle is against Canadians.
@@vovin8132 DEI was around in the nineties as well yes. I have never seen it so apparent as today, DEI on steroids.
Increase the salary, just simple
💯 the salary is 💩
Canada is already one of the best paid militaries in the world. It's not the pay.
@jarvy251 How much does a private make after taxes? Is it around $1,500 per month? And how much does a lieutenant officer make after taxes? About $2,400 per month?
@@dbest19330 And if you're living on base, that's plenty, and the envy of soldiers everywhere else in the world.
@jarvy251 Most of the bases are tearing down and not rebuilding single quarters on base because they are so old. They don't want to take care of the troops. CFB Esquimalt has single quarters and they kick members out on the street where rent is starting at 2k+ for single room apartments. PMQ rent is based on the local economy and being in one disqualifies you from CFD which does not take in to account the price of gas, food, and other daily expenses. From coast to coast the infrastructure is a mess. If we tried putting refugees in the buildings our members work and live in Canada would be tried with crimes against humanity. The is not a problem Trudeau created. This is a problem created from decades of neglect. It is just whenever the Liberals take power they do spend more money, it's that they misspend it on stupid Liberal polices that does nothing for the operational fitness of the CAF.
Maybe don't make our military a laughing stock of the world.
Cut your year long paperwork process then maybe we’ll talk
They could ask any SNCO with Afghan exp how to retain troops and it would work better then what there doing now.
It's been 8 months they haven't cleared me for medical cause they asked for 6 medical forms back when they only sent me 3.
@katat4649 @bradenahmet343 Despite our federal public service growing by 40% in the last decade or so, it struggles to screen and process enough applicants to enroll about 50% of what the Forces has the need to train. The Department of National Defence now has MORE consultants than it has uniformed members. This situation is just asinine. I hope you get through this administrative mess and get on with your training soon.
Mabe a government that respects the Veterans would help!
Why join. Vets are treated like bums if maimed or injured. Poor incentive.
they treat illegals better than vets
they are bums
we don't want to die for Israel
lol what? Canada isn't in that war...genius.
@@davidcurrie8962 I don't want to die for idiots...
@@davidcurrie8962 ur saying it like its canada's choice
@@davidcurrie8962 $4,000,000,000
I applied for the arm forces 2 months ago and haven’t heard back ???!!! I call every week and get so call back. If they are so desperate why aren’t they recruiting me??!!
Same here. I have no clue what the issue is I am ready to join up !
lmao
reach out and ask for an update. The process really does take too long. Which is something they really do need to work on.
BECAUSE THERE ARE STANDARDS TO THE CAF. YOU DO NOT MEET THE STANDARD.
@@GoodEvenings Are you speaking on behalf of the recruitment office or are you the recruitment office?
Perhaps it's time to make it a MILITARY again instead of a day care of politically correct DEI silliness.
There is a significant distinction between military and militant, but I think you exemplified that perfectly anyway.
This doesn't take sherlock Holmes to figure out.
Not worth it. The Harper govt reduced the benefits by 90%.
I'm glad Canadians don't actually think they can protect Canada by fighting a war on the opposite side of the globe. Means we're just smart.
So basically just wait until Russia takes over the north?
I’ve had thoughts of joining before but nearly everyone in the military says don’t do it. The culture needs to be fixed, pay structures (you could make more money in a civilian job not risking your life) and fix the application process, you could be waiting for months before you even get a callback. Also the long contracts with mandated degrees for the airforce could maybe be pulled back. Just some thoughts 💭
The ONLY reason I didn't join the navy, is because current and formerly enlisted members told me it would be the biggest mistake of my life.
Open the draft up to feminists.
Take care of the virus.
Apparently you can’t apply via in person with a paper application at the local armoury, it’s too pragmatic and efficient. You only exist if the “mineralists” say you do.
It’s not a complicated problem the problems stem from leadership from the PM to the high ranking military brass
Maybe it's because reservist pay alone is jokingly horrible. I'd make the same amount of money (or more) at any minimum wage job than I would as a reservist at my local base.
Lol, let me guess - no hook?
You make roughly 13.75 an hour as a recruit. You literally can go work at McDonald’s and make more money . Also the male washrooms won’t have tampon dispensers
We had two pay sheets we signed. If it was green we'd be payed and if it was pink, we probably wouldn't be payed. You never knew which was up until you got there.🙂👍
How much money should a toon make according to you?
Didn't something like 900 soldiers quit when they made the covid vax mandatory? That was a stupid move when you already don't have enough staff.
Canadians don't want to fight your bullsht wars!
I get a disability pension from Canada served 16 years and cant get a disability tax credit. Figure that out
You do get disability tax credit it's just a pain. They'll just fight every year and claim you don't qualify. They just paid me back for 6 years in February for claiming I didn't qualify when in fact, I did. Now , they're claiming I don't have an approved form again to try and shake some money. It's a constant battle with them. It's almost like the CRA doesn't want disabled vets to have anything
I think total respect for our armed forces is needed . bring back stephen harper. Please 🙏 get rid of the trudeaus period before it's too late and this must happen soon like yesterday
Nobody wants to defend a country that doesnt value them. Also, if you have to train military to be weak, they wont risk their lives. I once spoke to an international student who said our army training is a joke. He is not wrong.
This is not complicated. Just promise soldiers a single family detached home in any major city. It worked in medieval times. It will work now, especially with the housing market so cost prohibitive.
My application has been in processing at the Reserves for over a year and they haven't responded to emails no more. If I got a response in the past, the status remained unchanged... despite being given a conditional job offer. I'm not surprised applicants walk away. It's a snake eating its own tail at the CAF, really. For every brand-new applicant, one applicant in processing drops out for they're waiting too long. Trust me, they have enough applicants in the pipeline. It's not like they don't have enough interest.
I applied last year and passed the force test. I am a registered nurse but they told me there was no available for my position.
Your video is literally the reason why we are having difficulty in recruiting our most important population demographic into the Canadian military.
DND is a joke, I applied just under 3 years ago and have not even had an interview yet. I passed my CFAT and spent over $1,000 on medical forms for the CAF just to be told recently that a doctor from the PMO doesn't believe I am physically fit enough even though I am 23 years old 6'2 180 lbs... Not to mention, DND just received another budget cut on the civilian side in October, they can't even afford to grow the military salary wise even if they wanted to.
When I applied I spent $0 on medical forms. Clearly you're unfit to serve.
The military is an excellent career...
Its been almost a decade since I was in the reserves, but I can remember the paperwork to join being kind of a hassle. Obviously proper background checks need to be done, but I feel like a more streamlined process could help the recruiting. Retaining on the other hand seems like a larger issue to me. Having a better kit available might help. Feeling like your government is investing in the best possible equipment for you can go a long way to boosting morale (imo)
The Canadian military has a new job: Tele- soldier. Stay at home and get paid. This is how canada will get it's AAA bond rating.
I hate the RCMP so because of that I will not join the army. If the RCMP treats citizens better then maybe I would feel the need to join and protect my country but not anymore as I am in a war already against the RCMP
What crime did you allegedly commit to get on the RCMP's bad side ?
The rcmp need to be disbanded.....
Wages nor equipment reflect todays modern standards. Why would anyone enlist.
this is what happens when you make citizens hate their country.
*Maybe instead of giving billion dollars to counties that hate Canada. dump them into the military so the military has enough funds and resources fro ppl to want to join. Not making the Canada and the military the world laughingstock*
I am scheduled for my fitness testing Next month in Reserves as a vehicle technician!!! No more Aptitude Test!!!I really want this PT job in the CAF Reserves!!!
Is prior experience needed?
@ejdks37681 Nope, they will train you, and you will get paid during training.Real nice gig as vehicle technician, you can stay in the Army, or you can leave the Army and go for a civilian job.
Trudeau destroyed this as well , like everything he touches
Shift your marketing to excitement and past Military accomplishments by CAF like D-Day landings etc, perhaps reinvent the uniform from CADPAT- chronic known underfunding doesn't exactly instill confidence for young men and women wanting to join - recruits wants to be taken care of and welcomed - it takes a lot to leave your family and join the military.
Don't understand why basic vehicle maintenance isn't a skill set for all soldiers.
I wanted to apply to be trained as an armoured soldier reservist as I work with heavy equipment but I heard morale was at an all time low
Can't imagine why
nobody wants to die for this country not when its leaders hate its citizens
How about end the hazing in basic. Nobody wants to be treated like a piece of 💩. Plus a lot of the bases are in the middle of nowhere
What are you even yammering on about?
@Rocksteady246 lucky you if you don't know what I'm talking about 🙄
What I hear is you cant transition your job in military to the same job in civil. Basically she cant be mechanic anywhere else but in the army.
Relocation is the problem.
Its the most crap job there is for not great pay, childish rules and regs and a chance to go fight over some corperate interest somewhere. I dont think youre fixing that anytime soon.
The military has excellent pay/benefits....
I wander why? Maybe because our soldiers have been mistreated for far too long.
Military service,why not call it for what is: a waste of time.
As an applicant who was born in another country there was an 18 month wait between my physical and background check. By the time the check was performed I'd have to go through another physical. That's a huge problem. The private sector can get it done in 6 weeks. What's the holdup? In the end I just gave up. Not worth waiting a couple of years to get into bootcamp.
Let international students join the military if you are having shortage of military
yeah no thanks
Give it a couple years and she'll realize how terrible it is to be in the CAF
The CF is an excellent career....
PAY MORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Higher taxing
Canadian born and raised but will be looking into the British Royal Marines or USMC (I'm a triple citizen) because I have no desire to be a part of the Canadian Military given what I've seen and researched
Royal Marines are a top-notch force, but I'd choose the USMC between the too. From what I see, the UK military is nearly as problematic at our own.
They don't pay remotely enough to live where the bases are located. We have hundreds of service members living in actual tents.
They turn down fully qualified applicants for the most ridiculous reasons after wasting months of their time
There is nowhere remotely enough equipment to do the job.
Bullying is very real, and sexual assaults not rare.
Very little support for those injured while serving.
I got declined for using an inhaler (I can still do the physical activity). My brother is still waiting on a medical to be scheduled (5 months into the process) Still keep getting told "3 more weeks" IF we can even get ahold of the recruitment offices lmfao. They need to remove some restrictions and make the recruiting process easier.
I heard it's harder to get in because of these things so now the younger generation rather be on tick tock and youtube than military.
Maybe try taking the DEI and LGBT out of it if you want it to be taken seriously.
You need to be a transwoman or woman to be in Canadian military now. Even if you aren't you will be seen as one. That is the level of force/strength the Canadian military exudes lately.
Who wants to be a part of that.
We need atleast 200,000 active soliders.
They need to be paid a lot more
match oilfield wages. ensign is paying lease hands 37 an hour
Is Canada a country worth fighting for? No way I am risking my life to fight someone else's proxy war overseas!
Ranpreet needs you sar
You don't have what it takes anyway....
9 years of toxic leadership has decimated our national defence. We need a new leader in Ottawa ASAP!
Increase military spending.
Use the South Korean or the Israili model. A basic military training for kids, may be highschool kids. Many will appreciate the military service. This will transform Canada, just like how it transform S Korea. There will be solidarity, and a sense of love for the country. Discipline on the canadian population, a sense of belongingness.