Sadly, the film 'Pride' was a romanticized idealization of what realy happened when we went down to South Wales; also I knew Mark Ashton and he was not at all how he was represented in the film as rather camp and petty-bourgeois...
@@garax1548 Mark Ashton was hyper-intelligent, hyper-critical with a cynical humour and hated bourgeois-marxists and careerist gays. When we had our Sunday meetings regarding strategy for the Lesbians and Gays Support the Miners (LGSM), Mark Ashton used to sprawl out laying on the pub floor as he discussed tactics which were usually largely at odds with the other members who were not as radical as Mark Ashton was. Mark Ashton would have loathed how so many gay men today have become 'interpellated' into this homophobic 'straight acting' syndrome and endorsed capitalism with open arms. Mark Ashton was nothing at all like Mike Jackson who had an incredibly romanticised idealism about the working class as this radical force which would change history, and who were the salt of the earth. Many of us in the LGSM did experience homophobia from the mining community when we stayed in South Wales but Mike Jackson would totally deny this because it does not fit with his distorted (denialist) romantic-idealist narrative about the working class. Mark Ashton was a working class communist while Mike Jackson was a bourgeois communist. Mike Jackson blocked me on Facebook when I argued that the working class were just as regressive and reactionary, and racist and homophobic, as as all other classes. Mark Ashton was well aware of this fact as well being a realist and not a romanticist. I miss Mark Ashton and yet I feel his spirit is alive.
@@AlexanderVerney-Elliott-ep7dwI was very sure that it has been romanticised. I mean a movie is quite short so it's hard to put a week long development into it but I can imagine they cut short on the hateful part. What I loved though was that this solidarity was unconditional and in the film there is a line about that as well
Could you tell a bit more about the part of unconditional solidarity. It's only legitimate solidarity in my opinion. Was Ashton a part of that. I bet this caused a lot of infighting
@Official Jeremy Corbyn Channel Sir I had the utmost respect for you because of your compassion towards the Occupied Palestinians. However if you expect the Lord of Hosts the Creator of the Universe to Bless you as a world leader it always comes with conditions according to the Divine Scriptures. You MUST Abide by His LAWS of Nature and what is Written in His Holy Sacred Scripture. Lgbtq in the Holy Bible Was Is and *Always will be SIN* God Never Changes He is the same yesterday today and Eternity! Please I Implore you for your Nation and your Soul to OBEY The Scriptures if you want HIM to Bless you from the Evil Zionist forces and to become the Next Prime Minister of the 🇬🇧 UK. The Lord of Hosts is returning very soon to Destroy the Fake Semite Oppressive Occupiers and Save the Palestinians the REAL Semitic Israelites of God Almighty!! The Day of Judgement is Very Imminent. HE will Judge All Nations according to their Works. This lgbtq support you do is an Evil Sinful work and Will be used Against you when Christ returns. I urge you to REPENT of this asap. Why let your whole Nation be Judged on account of the rights of a few Sexually Immoral? The UK has already Angered the Almighty Immensely by their support of the Saudis to commit War Crimes against Yemen thru Weapons sales. The 🇬🇧 UK has Exceedingly Angered the HOLY GOD by their Loyalty to the Oppressor who built a nation on Lies when ALL DNA Studies Prove 100% that AshkaNazi's are NOT Semites and therefore have NO Roots or Lineage to the Holy Land!! The UK keeps turning a Blind Eye on the Palestinian Immense Concentration Camp and they will be held Greatly accoountable and JUDGEDMENT Will truly come against the UK Government on account of this! Please do NOT add to these Sins by another Most Grievous SIN by supporting what is 100% Anti-God. Lgbtq is Against the Holy Bible and the Laws of Nature. You will be held Accountable for the other 99% you may Decieve while supporting the small Percentage of the Sexually Immoral. I will pray for you 🙏🕊
@seano8484NPC2222 Your racial myths pit worker against worker while our real collective enemy rakes in the profits and damns us all... this isn't about communism; this is about class solidarity against the economic oppression of the rich.
Mike Jackson is such a hero. Solidarity forever
we all owe men like him our collective freedoms... solidarity forever
phenomenal guy
Solidarity!
I remember meeting Michael a few times on protests. Lovely guy
Brilliantly spoken! Brave, intelligent and absolutely correct! As a straight man I’m proud to drink in the same boozer as Mike!
RESPECT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brilliant!!!
Sadly, the film 'Pride' was a romanticized idealization of what realy happened when we went down to South Wales; also I knew Mark Ashton and he was not at all how he was represented in the film as rather camp and petty-bourgeois...
What was he like?
@@garax1548 Mark Ashton was hyper-intelligent, hyper-critical with a cynical humour and hated bourgeois-marxists and careerist gays. When we had our Sunday meetings regarding strategy for the Lesbians and Gays Support the Miners (LGSM), Mark Ashton used to sprawl out laying on the pub floor as he discussed tactics which were usually largely at odds with the other members who were not as radical as Mark Ashton was. Mark Ashton would have loathed how so many gay men today have become 'interpellated' into this homophobic 'straight acting' syndrome and endorsed capitalism with open arms. Mark Ashton was nothing at all like Mike Jackson who had an incredibly romanticised idealism about the working class as this radical force which would change history, and who were the salt of the earth. Many of us in the LGSM did experience homophobia from the mining community when we stayed in South Wales but Mike Jackson would totally deny this because it does not fit with his distorted (denialist) romantic-idealist narrative about the working class. Mark Ashton was a working class communist while Mike Jackson was a bourgeois communist. Mike Jackson blocked me on Facebook when I argued that the working class were just as regressive and reactionary, and racist and homophobic, as as all other classes. Mark Ashton was well aware of this fact as well being a realist and not a romanticist. I miss Mark Ashton and yet I feel his spirit is alive.
@@AlexanderVerney-Elliott-ep7dwI was very sure that it has been romanticised. I mean a movie is quite short so it's hard to put a week long development into it but I can imagine they cut short on the hateful part. What I loved though was that this solidarity was unconditional and in the film there is a line about that as well
Could you tell a bit more about the part of unconditional solidarity. It's only legitimate solidarity in my opinion. Was Ashton a part of that. I bet this caused a lot of infighting
My Brother
what is the footage at 1:26?
It's a scene from the movie "Pride" (2014), which is about "Lesbians and gays support the miners".
we need labour to sort this mess out..
hah
@Official Jeremy Corbyn Channel Sir I had the utmost respect for you because of your compassion towards the Occupied Palestinians. However if you expect the Lord of Hosts the Creator of the Universe to Bless you as a world leader it always comes with conditions according to the Divine Scriptures. You MUST Abide by His LAWS of Nature and what is Written in His Holy Sacred Scripture. Lgbtq in the Holy Bible Was Is and *Always will be SIN* God Never Changes He is the same yesterday today and Eternity! Please I Implore you for your Nation and your Soul to OBEY The Scriptures if you want HIM to Bless you from the Evil Zionist forces and to become the Next Prime Minister of the 🇬🇧 UK. The Lord of Hosts is returning very soon to Destroy the Fake Semite Oppressive Occupiers and Save the Palestinians the REAL Semitic Israelites of God Almighty!! The Day of Judgement is Very Imminent. HE will Judge All Nations according to their Works. This lgbtq support you do is an Evil Sinful work and Will be used Against you when Christ returns. I urge you to REPENT of this asap. Why let your whole Nation be Judged on account of the rights of a few Sexually Immoral? The UK has already Angered the Almighty Immensely by their support of the Saudis to commit War Crimes against Yemen thru Weapons sales. The 🇬🇧 UK has Exceedingly Angered the HOLY GOD by their Loyalty to the Oppressor who built a nation on Lies when ALL DNA Studies Prove 100% that AshkaNazi's are NOT Semites and therefore have NO Roots or Lineage to the Holy Land!! The UK keeps turning a Blind Eye on the Palestinian Immense Concentration Camp and they will be held Greatly accoountable and JUDGEDMENT Will truly come against the UK Government on account of this! Please do NOT add to these Sins by another Most Grievous SIN by supporting what is 100% Anti-God. Lgbtq is Against the Holy Bible and the Laws of Nature. You will be held Accountable for the other 99% you may Decieve while supporting the small Percentage of the Sexually Immoral. I will pray for you 🙏🕊
Trans rights!
Pious piffle
CALAMITY GURU / LAST DAYS The Bible also says not to judge
Do Muslims support Gays Jeremy Corbyn ??? LOL :)
They better do if they live here
@@andrewballetto7641 They don't and you all know it
@@mayorip not all. True. Religion's dumb anyway
For the Muslim not the LGBT.
Go away troll, your only purpose is to divide the British working class.
@@SP-ri7jo For the moron not the intelligent.
@seano8484NPC2222 Your racial myths pit worker against worker while our real collective enemy rakes in the profits and damns us all... this isn't about communism; this is about class solidarity against the economic oppression of the rich.