Lunch Break Story: I'd have just told her "It is Illegal for me to work Off the Clock, so Legally, I can NOT help you!" and walked away. Then I'd report the Idiot Manager for trying to violate State Law to both Corporate and HR AND the State Department of Labor...there WILL be a record of the Time Sheet Edit in the system that IT can find and that will show both that OP's Time Sheet WAS altered AND who mad the change...
Story 3 - The system would have a record of anyone changing OP's time. Also, at that young age if a customer threatened to get me fired I'd just say "nah, I quit. Now that I no longer work here, I'm gonna wait outside for you and I'm kicking your ass in the parking lot."
Story 2: the parents couldn't take the wee babe to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital? Not one red cent is charged while the child is a patient, hell, they'll even fly you down there, covering your food and lodging. As much as I will always say F@$# cancer, OP is definitely NtAH. A multi-generational heirloom like her mom's wedding ring is absolutely priceless.
3rd story: That's insanely illegal. If someone forces you to work during your lunch break, you're legally allowed to sue them, keep your job, AND get a refund lunch break. And on top of that, deleting that stuff is EVEN MORE illegal as its considered retaliation! Edit after the good update: HAHA SERVES HIM RIGHT! THAT'S SO ILLEGAL, HE'S LUCKY HE ONLY GOT FIRED INSTEAD OF PUT IN JAIL!
It's also considered time clock fraud. My husband has had this happen at several different jobs, he's also been told to work while still clocked out on break bc it would only take a minute and they were very busy. I told him if something happened and he got injured while working off the clock it would be so hard to claim workman's comp bc the company would just claim he wasn't on the clock but they still continued to do it. This typically happened while he was working as a mechanic so there was a lot of dangerous equipment that was used
Maybe but see in At will and or right to work (my state is both) theyll just make up a different reason to fire you heck they dont even have to have a reason though theyll make up one just to have something on the paperwork or show unemployment when they fight having to pay it.
Getting fired might not be the only consequence for his actions. Depending on what the corporate attorneys advise, they might hand over the evidence of his fraud to the state's employment commission to cover their own butts, since OP (an employee whose hours were altered) was the one who brought up possible legal issues.
I work in a retail pharmacy and have no shortage of people who try to hit me up for help when I'm off the clock. I straight up tell them that it's against both company policy and the law for me to work off the clock, including helping customers. That's time we don't get paid for. I don't make the rules.
Story number 3: OP is the MVP. As someone who worked in customer service off and on several times including as a server, you can't let power tripping bosses walk all over you. You have to fight back. Good on OP!
@@GeorgieB1965 if it's a right-to-work state, they can do whatever they want (including firing someone seemingly without cause just to appease a loudmouth, overbearing customer) and, usually, get away with it because no one has the nerve to fight back. Then there's people like OP who know how to play the game and let the power tripping boss set their own trap.
Story 2/ Am I misunderstanding or did OP say the parents are trying to take money the dad set aside for OP before marrying the step mom. Why didn’t they take that the first time instead of the ring.
That's truuuue. It just adds more to the idea that the parents were desperate to not have to use any of their own actual money and instead decided the responsibility of paying the medical bills should go to the actual child who cannot work instead of themselves.
as mentioned,there was no other valuable stuff,according to OP.i'm sure OP haven't thought of the evil father and step-mother have souls or body that they can sell,too...
@@teslagod7221 There is always something one can sell. Old line trimmer, old furniture. Even several small things can add up to a small amount of money
@@IIGrayfoxIIoh it's quite simple really, the ring wasn't theirs to sell, it wasn't their property, they weren't willing to part with any of "their" possessions, but they were willing to part with OP's possessions, bonus points if they originally belonged to someone who couldn't actually protest the sale (like OP's deceased mother) which makes what they did far more scummy
Story 2: NTA rings and jewelry resale for significant less than they were worth when new. I would be shocked if the got more than $1000 for it. There are numerous other things they could have sold/ways to save that they could have done but selling the ring was the easy way out. Stealing your daughters savings was also the easy way out.
Seriously this. My dad has tried to tell me I should sell my mom's jewelry that's supposed to be mine (what he says, but no it's going to my siblings who knew my mom better) to spend on things for myself when it's not very valuable monetarily. Hell, even my genuine amethyst silver ring that my oma gave me isn't that monetarily good
@@DT-dc4br Stop acting like you're the spoiled brat, please. They could've gotten a loan or at least tried to, because jewelry selling is not going to cut it. No, they didn't want the money for the treatment as the jewelry wasn't going to give but a tiny amount that wouldn't pay for shit, they wanted to hurt the poster
@D T the sick person was the daughter so I assume the child doesn't work There are a number of other things that people have in a home that can be sold (the mothers jewelry, fathers wedding ring, clothes, if they have 2 cars they could sell one) they could also cut back on other luxury things (I'm assuming they had these things because they were able to save money for OP and if you live pay check to pay check your not saving money) there are a number of charities to reach out to that help with cancer cost for children. They choose the ring because it wasn't important to them. They wanted to take OPs savings because it wouldn't effect them
Story 3. Lunches are unpaid. Simply ask the manager are you telling me I am required to work off the clock? Can I have that in writing? Problem solved. There would be records of any schedule changes submitted but you better be absolutely sure you clocked out before claiming it.
This reminds me of when I was working for my father. You never gave me anything except $5 here were maybe $10 there, and I was always desperate for some bit of money to do something with. I'm talking about someone who was in my twenties and I had no independence from them. I realized it on these construction sites we were working so often, there were often aluminum cans around here and there, so I started saving them and garbage bags and putting them in a bin in our backyard. One day we come home from working hard, and I had already saved up about eight bags full of aluminum cans so that I could turn them in for some spending money, and what do I see? The kids Macross the alley were dragging them to the other side of the alley to their backyard, as my mother was smiling and saying all kinds of happy things to them. It turns out she felt sorry for these poor kids whose mother was a single mom, and gave them my aluminum cans so that they could sell them to get some spending money. They not only didn't know where they came from, they didn't even acknowledge me when I arrived. They just were hauling my cans away. The last bag, as I was walking up to my mother to ask what was going on. I told her, she had no right to take that away, that was all my hard work together all those cans, and I was trying to save up to get some money of my own. I will never forget the look on her face when she smiled at me and said, "So, what are you going to do? Are you going to go in take them back from those poor kids who don't have anything?" And then she smiled even more broadly. I'm not spoken with my mother in something like 9 years now. My father has been dead for a similar period of time, and I didn't speak to him for a few years before that.
2nd story: Can we all just agree that it's messed up that anyone has to pay thousands of dollars to try to save a child from cancer? What kind of society sets up a system that tolerates that?
welcome to the American health care system were you have two choices go into debt to receive life saving treatment or die most people these days are choosing to die rather than putting a burden on their families
@@chezsnailez I'm from Ontario Canada. I pay an extra $3OO per year in taxes for healthcare. Last year I got very ill: ER overnight stay, multiple CAT scans, an MRI and other tests, appointments with specialists, the treatments, etc. How much extra did I need to pay? NOTHING!
I had a manager mess with my time clock punches on a Sunday in a way that would both deprive me of overtime, but attempt to hide his incompetence in staffing. Long story short, I wrote a LONG email to corporate HR warning them that if my times for Sunday were not restored within 24 hours, as I originally entered them, and they could easily corroborate with A, B or C, that I would being going to my state labor board early Tuesday morning. Lo and behold, my hours were restored mid-day Tuesday. You do not mess with the labor board, they don't play nice.
11:31 - That customer is crap and so is the manager, since they took it out on the employee. If an employee is contracted to have a break of a certain time period, then that's what they're entitled to - no ifs, buts or maybes. You just know the manager would call it "theft" (on the employee's part) if the employee took a couple of minutes more break than was contracted, so it's likewise "theft" (on the manager's part) if the manager expects an employee to give up their break to do work. I fully agree with the employee taking it to the next level - the manager ultimately did this to himself by committing fraud.
With the bad boss story, one thing I think needs addressed that got overlooked is the psycho Karen. If she needed help, why demand it from someone on break? The OP offered to find an associate to help her. That should have been enough. Needed help, offered help. Making it personal was stupid and bizarre. Had I been in her shoes, when a call for assistance was offered, I simply would have said "thank you. Enjoy your lunch." Not hard to be a decent person.
just understand one thing about entitled and narcissistic people,their brain logic only processes stuff for their own needs and wants,when their brain process stuff for others,it becomes illogical and unreasonable...
Story 3: Well done, that was the best way I could see to deal with the manager. Plus from a company POV why would you want someone who does things like that on the payroll? They are a law suite waiting to happen.
I think it’s hilarious when someone calls them self a valued customer. They’re not valued, or else every employee would know who they are and Care. She’s only a valued customer to herself. Should’ve said something like “and I’m a valued employee, and I can’t help people if I have an empty stomach”
That second story is tough. I think the US health care system is the a-hole in the story. If health care wasn't so prohibitively expensive for the average person, the situation would never have happened. Being unable to afford medical bills doesn't mean you're suddenly entitled to other people's stuff. That said, I suspect the theft was motivated by desperation rather than malice.
@@Morten_Storvik But it's also one of the few countries with the problem of ridiculously expensive healthcare. So, odds are, this family resides in the U.S.A.
@@nancyomalley6286 In the UK, if you want an new "unproven" treatment, not only do you have to pay for it entirely out of pocket, the NHS will demand that you pay back anything they've already paid for your treatment. Perhaps they don't do this anymore, but I've read about quite a few cases of that sort in the relatively recent past. They will also deny you surgeries such as knee replacement because you are overweight, claiming that you won't recover as well from the surgery with the extra weight. Of course one reason a lot of people with bad knees have extra weight is because the bad knee makes it very hard to be active. Some districts have wait lists of YEARS for kids with recurrent ear infections to get ear tubes. The NHS just doesn't have the money to pay for everything that every person needs or wants to get done. Cancer treatment in the US is expensive but doctors don't deny patients treatment just because of costs, and usually have ways to work with drug companies, charities, hospital funds for this purpose and other sources to get treatment covered. The patient may end up with debt, but at least they are alive. Many other countries pay for everything, but the wait lists are months or years, which a cancer may not give the patient.
@@pippagrey9633 Nobody said "unproven treatment". It was said "alternative treatment" which does not automaticially means unproven. It was just a treatment that the local hospitral didn't offer. At least that's how I understood it.
Engagement Ring Story: OP should have called the Police to report the ring stolen... Depending on it's value, it could easily be Felony Theft... I would have...and I'd have told Dad that if they steal MY ring and sell it, I WILL Press Charges...Family or not! If they desperately need that much money, take out a Mortgage or a Loan to pay for the treatment, do NOT steal from me to pay for it!!!
How selfish can you possibly be, valuing a ring over someone`s life out of sentimental value, effectively taking a piss on the mother`s memory? Are you people serious?
@Morten Storvik A wrong doesn't make a right buddy. Be careful about the stance you're taking because you're validating stealing and taking from other people as long as it's for a good cause. Don't let stuff like robin hood fool you In the believing that's right. The father is a fool for assuming an essence that he could still have a relationship with his daughter after everything no he just assumed she would get over. It and once she saw the stepdaughter was doing well all from the sacrifice of losing the ring. She'd have realized that it was foolish to be sentimental over something like that as long as it's saved alive only no no it didn't and now. He's spending every moment realizing he lost his daughter. And while hes still trying to re establish that relationship hes basically devolved into begging her for money to do the same thing that caused distance in The first place he has not learned one bit. Because you were assumed they would have money saved over after how this happened in the 1st. Place wouldn't have been a good idea to save just in case because cancer Can Come out of remission Don't assume that because you're on the side that save the life that you have the moral high ground you don't And it's the height of arrogance and the very sin Of pride to assume you Do. Stepmother assumes she's selfless but in reality she's only selfless and what she'll do to save her daughter's life she's completely selfish in What she has to do to save that life. She said she was dismissal of the poster's feelings even insulted the ring by just calling it some rain and still expected her to give the. Money to save her daughter just because. On one hand as I said she's selfless as she's doing everything she can to save her daughter's life but she is selfish and that she's. Taking stuff that is not hers to do it. She doesn't give a d*** if her husband loses his relationship with as she says his evil heartless daughter Didn't come out of her loins So she doesn't give a d*** How. She? Feels she's only using insults and labels to get her way to shame her into giving her what she wants that's nothing to condemn her On Because it shows she cares for a daughter, but At the same time it kinda is something to condemn her on Since I have to wonder if the tables were turned would she have gone as far as her husband did to save her daughter for the poster. I highly doubt It if she was on the hook to give up something of hers to pay to save his daughter's life She's made this quite clear that no she doesn't give a d*** that's his daughter. Why should she have to pay a price for it basically? You have to ask yourself a question are you willing to make the same sacrifice? Other people are willing to do that's something the father didn't question. And now he sacrificed everything his previous relationship and now his relationship with his only surviving daughter she will spend the rest of her days despising and hating him And who knows he guys family involved in trying to pressure her into seeing his point of view that she had to cut them out meaning in essence one. Way or another some or maybe all resent him for the fact that they lost contact with a Blood relative All for the sake of his current wife and her daughter Who they don't have a tie with. They're only on a side because they made their choice and now they're stuck with him. He should have seen this coming but he didn't because he viewed it in the same vein. His wife viewed selling that ring it was just a ring what's the problem I have the wonder if it's lost on him when his daughter said she wished he was the one who died And not her mother. Maybe it is he seems to be dense Or maybe he's done on purpose because it's easier to justify his decisions But say as you will yes he saved a life. But I need to ask you a question? Would you be happy if someone stole money That would keep you from going homeless and hungry on the street if it was for the sake of saving someone's life and you never agree to it?
@@Morten_Storvik Hey buddy get the stick out of your butt if someone stole a family heirloom from you and sold it would you be angry even if it’s for a good cause. Like yeah that person is alive but you can never get back that heirloom that is so important to the family. Also, if they want so desperately to save their daughter, why didn’t they sell their own engagement rings? Why did it have to be a family heirloom that was supposed to be OP’s.
@@Morten_Storvik to the OP it was worth more then someone's life as it was part of her mothers family for generations. To her that has more value than anything as it was the only ONLY memento of that side of the family and shouldn't be sold at all when there's more options
@@Morten_Storvik you're clearly the stepmom..... Being a total psycho Karen on EVERY comment that doesn't agree with you. OP had NO obligation to some random little sick girl and her mom's family heirloom IS worth more than her dad's lame excuse to steal the money, guarantee he did NOT use it for medical treatment, too many flaws in this. OP deserved the ring, stepsister probably died anyways so it was all for nothing.
Steal something left to me in an inheritance and then sell it? Cutting them off would only be the beginning. Call the cops file the report for stolen property and sue him! Scorched earth all the way!
Story 3: What OP had to go through was a nightmare. Our workplace recently changed to a new punching system, and it drives everyone nuts. My Supervisor actually told me that she was not credited for all the hours she worked for one reason or another, and management didn't do anything about it. Like anyone she wants to be paid for the hours she was there working, not just what's logged. So I've been taking pictures of my completed work week and proposed number of hours in case there is an issue. It actually came in handy recently, but not in the way you expect. I had to leave early for an emergency, and my ending shift punch didn't go in correctly, but the day still showed the right hours. My manager, being a guy who looks out for his employees, didn't know about that, and tried doing me a favor by filling my time for the rest of the shift. Of course I got overpaid, but I didn't want that to come back at me looking like I was stealing time. So I told him, we figured it out, and he contacted HR. They made the proper deduction on my next paycheck, but since I logged a bit of overtime, they were super nice and let me keep that, and only reduced my regular hours. Why can't everyone have a work environment like that?
If they really needed so much money that they selled a heirloom, why didn't they first sell both of their own weddingrings? They could buy an other when the daughter was better. But an heirloom cant be bought again. If that wasn't enough money, they could always ask for the heirloom and maybe OP would be willing to give it up. The story didn't mentioned that they looked for other options. Taking a lean on the bank or something. So I do understand OP.
Actually the story states that the only thing they had of value was the ring and I'm sorry even if it's a heirloom it's not more important than a child's life. Do I feel the girl has every right to be upset, yeah I do but as a parent if it means both children live even if one never talks to me again I would have sold the ring too. What a sad world we live in where everyone thinks a girls ring is more important than a three year olds life smh
@@candasjankowski6627 Glad to see sane person here. I just can't believe the number of the people, who think, that he in the wrong and a bad guy here and that he "chose" someone. Like, for real?
Story #1 Public Librarian here...yep happens every day all the time. Turn in the items (books, DVDs, CDs and electronics) all will go smoothly. Mess up and you just complicate your life.
having a library is a gift people and it is a free library unlike a lot of other countries. be honest and stop messing with these folks. I had a library card since I was six and no one in any library I went too were mean to me. be thankful and do not mess with them
So, for story two concerning op's mother's ring and the child with cancer, I can't help but think, the child is 3 years old, 3 year olds eat a lot of sugar, sugar feeds cancer cells. What is op's dad and step mom feeding the kid for the cancer to "come back" so suddenly? My parents have a friend who was at an advanced stage of cancer. The doctors said she only had a few months to live at best. She decided to go on a completely sugar free diet, not even fruits nor diet sodas were allowed, absolutely zero sugar. Months later the doctors were shocked that not only was she alive and healthy, but that her cancer had actually receded. Today, years later, she's healthy and cancer free, but she's still deciding not to eat any sugar out of her personal choice. With that in mind, I can't help but wonder, how much sugar is op's step mom feeding her kid for the kid's cancer to return after an already expensive treatment that cost op her mother's ring? Op is definitively not the AH, and while I wouldn't call op's step mom neglectful, she's definitively not informed about the dangers of sugar, especially in this modern age where so many colorants are added to candies, turning them into the perfect cancer-giving pills. Op's step mom only has herself to blame.
Story 3: Proud of that person for turning it around on the manager. I was once framed for something I didn't do at work because the boss hated me because I needed accommodations due to being disabled and conspired with her friend (who also worked there). There were no cameras or anything, so it was a "he said, she said" situation and I didn't have a leg to stand on since I was basically appealing to the person who was trying to get me fired. It didn't occur to me to call up corporate and tell them what those two b-words did to me, and I really didn't want to fight for a job where the boss and her little minion would try to make my life miserable. In the very least, years later, I was driving past that area and noticed that the business had closed down and the building was going to be used for something else. So, at least I got a consolation prize.
Story #4: OMG I feel for OP! I’ve had more than my share of rude, entitled, neighbours. From couples with 4 kids, in an upstairs flat, letting their crotch goblins play bowls in their hallway over my head, to a guy who thought blaring cop shows right at the point where shots are being fired! F my PTSD went from 0 to 12 and I swear he sat with his remote deliberately trying to freak all the neighbours out! I suspected the owners of the property were trying to get us all to leave, as many properties in the area were being converted into condos at the time. Some owners, I found out later, were hiring people, put them in an empty unit, then reap the rewards later.
The town I live in, in Sweden. Between 10pm and 7 am. You call security guards, called Securitas to come to noise complaints. If the same person have them at the door , the third time. Bang a hefty fine. They keep records of every call
Story 3: As soon as the OP talked about how his break was no longer on his digital time sheet, I was immediately thinking "these digital time clocks log any changes made and WHO made them. It isn't going to take much investigation to find out what happened." I LOLed at the managers response; he should've known he was toast right then and there even before trying to fix the problem he caused. And to the "valued customer", I'd say to her, "Yeah, like we're going to go out of business for losing one of the over 300 different customers we get every day..." One of the best ways to get a Karen to lose her clout is to make it clear that she's very unimportant.
Well, any place that calls for reference will get from HR " I can only confirm start and finish dates for this person" as replay, a code for them having fired him for business reasons.
I know how noisy neighbours go, a couple years ago we had a REALLY REEEEALLY Annoing neighbour who kept blasting music day and night almost every day and despite several complaints and calls to the police nothing was done. Thankfully eventually buddy just abandoned his apartment one day and never came back. If anything I imagine managment for the building was glad because the guy was loud, destructive and very threatening. Its a wonder why the cops being called several times to his place never did anything to deal with his obnoxious and threatening behaviour.
5:40 That's messed up to take the last memento of not only her mother but that whole side of her family. If she was an adult she could've made an intelligent division, but he took advantage of his 12yr old child. He ripped out her heart & then father, new wife & daughter all ate it while she watched. Sorry for the graphic details.
@@stuartwalker9597 Maybe she simply did not have as valuable jewellery as the story indicated? Either way valuing a ring over a *dying child* because of sentimental value is *wrong* .
@@Morten_Storvikthey had other family to ask, loans, I’d sell my own crap and do anything physically possible before asking a fucking 12 year old to bear the adult burden
Story 2 it's not a tough one. The fact is that they should not have sold her maternal mother's family hairloom. They should have worked out something else or got a loan or contacted their family for help. And they should have worked out a plan on the instance that the cancer came back since it can, this is SIX YEARS LATER. and they still didn't have their shit together or a plan. Don't just go back to OP and demand more from her, you're the parent work something out.
You`re right, its not a tough one. OP is one of the most selfish people i have seen in a long time. Imagine valuing a ring over someone`s life due to sentimental value.
A child should never be made responsible for taking care of the house(a couple of reasonable chores is fine, though), it’s occupants, or any financial issues. By stealing and selling the ring, the father committed financial abuse against his kid.
@@Morten_Storvik I think you need to re read that story and look at the comment. That pretty much stated they did not have the right to sell the ring they did not have the right for any of that yet they still did it anyway. Completely invalidating your moral stance so nice job picking the moral lowground. It's rare to see someone do that. Even rarer to see an idiot Who should have realized this do it! But I guess you were hoping nobody would act on fortunate questions and just accept that oh the poster is selfish for caring about some ring over Another person's life. And i'm sure you get people who are accusing you of being the stepmother. But no I rightfully just assume you're just some self Righteous idiot trying to hide behind moral high ground for your argument
That dude is answering to everyone that agrees with op xD they forget that OP was also a CHILD LOL and that kid had her mom's, dad's and step dad's family and none of them helped they are also AH but they are attacking op when everyone else was also selfish
@@northrix1219 That was the point! Their hypocrites and they know it! It's the classic shitshow where they all gang up on the victim in hopes their own shitty behavior isn't focused on! Too bad it amounts really to nothing but them ALL (but OP) being shitheads who accomplished nothing but embrassing themselves (maybe not to others, but they themselves can't ignore what they've done)
Story 1: This is why you should be polite and courteous to CSRs. If you treat them with respect, you may be able to get fees waived if you are polite. You attract more flies with honey than with vinegar.
🤬🤬🤬🤬 Story #2 ABSOLUTELY NOT THE A-HOLE!!! NOT sorry either!! I absolutely WOULD HAVE taken MY ring and put in a SAFETY DEPOSIT BOX at my bank! The child's (step mom's kid) medical issues/costs are NOT YOUR responsibility!! Yes, it's very sad.. but again.. NOT YOUR responsibility!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬
@@Morten_Storvik says the asshole that hasnt sold all their stuff to save a dying kid but expects a 12 year old to. i assume if you have kids its only a matter of time before they go no contact
Regarding the stolen/sold heirloom engagement ring: I didn't hear anything about what other measures where attempted in order to raise cash for the step-child's treatment. It is mentioned that the child's father is not in her life- even if he wanted nothing to do with his daughter (as long as the OP was told the truth about this- and the father really is not involved- and they are not lying about who the father is), being the biological father means that he could/should be paying child support- even before the cancer diagnosis. The OP states that not only was the child's father absent, but his entire family is absent as well. I have to wonder if the bio dad's family even knew about her existence because I can't imagine any grandparent not wanting their granddaughter to have a chance at living. Granted, it is possible that what the OP was told is correct- but if feels like an attempt should have been made at contact before such a drastic step (stealing and selling the only thing the OP has left of their family- clearly there will be nothing sentimental from her time with her dad for her to cherish as well) was taken. It sure sounds like the OP's father and step-mother didn't even look for alternate sources of money for this child. Do they each have their own vehicle? Are they renting a home/apartment or does anyone own property that could have been put up as collateral for a loan? Did they contact local media, churches, scout groups, etc. in an effort to get some kind of fundraiser going? I mean, heck- every time I go to my local dry cleaner, I add another quarter to the cardboard sign on the counter that is there to raise money for a local child who has leukemia. I do understand the father and step-mother's reasoning for selling the ring- I can't even begin to imagine the terror they must have felt when realizing that the treatment was not covered and the child was basically handed a death sentence. Then, all of a sudden- there is a light that beckons the child back to life and can remove her from death row- the catch is - there is a price for this. That must have been truly awful (what does it say about our society- where a child can actually be left to die because of a lack of funds for treatment) and I do understand why they were desperate. Even so, It seems that they did not do their due diligence- turning over every possible way to help- other than devastating another child who already lost their mother and basically lost their father as well- since his heart was clearly planted directly next to his step-daughter to the exclusion of the OP. Did they even try to contact the drug company? I know from experience that the pharmaceutical companies have reps who deal with and are in direct contact with local doctors regarding things like this and most of them have some sort of compassionate need program. I also wonder why they sold the ring outright, instead of taking a pawn loan on it. I am aware that this option costs more money in the end- but if the urgent need is for cash, the ring could have been pawned, with the OP's father retaining the ticket, allowing the ring to be re-claimed when the current crisis was over. I do understand that these loans are not indefinite, but you can always pay a small amount to get an extension and there was no need to actually sell the ring- unless they really didn't ever intend to try and get it back.
She is not the AH for valuing a *ring* over a childs *life* ? It had sentimental value tied to the mother? Well what would the mother have wanted OP to do? I highly doubt she would have wanted OP to value the ring over someone`s life.
@@Morten_StorvikThat depends, I mean, you don't have any obligation to give something really meaningful to you for basically a stranger, it sucks the situation of the child but that's not more important than the feelings of someone that might even still be mourning their dead mother
@@alfredogm4148 Did you seriously just try to claim that someone`s misplaced emotions are more important than saving a dying child? Their own step sister no less? Are you insane?
@@Morten_Storvik A few points to think about. That was OP's ring. An Inheritance from her deceased mom. It was stolen from her by her father and step mother who almost HAVE to have options other than stealing from a child. Reminder it was NOT their ring to take and sell. They just decided they were going too. Now they want take more from the daughter they stole from. She lost what was likely her only Inheritance from her mom for a child that isn't her responsibility to save. Normally I'd agree that a child's life is more important than a ring. But it wasn’t the dad and step-mom's ring to sell. Did they seriously have no options but to steal from a child?
Story 3: Does this guy work for a certain "farmers market" where employees wear green? Cuz something akin to such happened at my old store a couple years back. And I 100% will be taking notes from this as the management at my place of work is as bad as this.
Story 4 I'd have probably get a cheap universal remote and aim it through his window, via the balcony, and mess with his telly. To make him think it's broken.
nope if your management is targeting you call corporate every time, A: this manager is messing with payroll, B: this manager is putting strikes on record 2-3 strikes is a termination and strikes 2-3 are easier once there is a rap sheet, and C: if he's doing it to one he is doing it to many, and will do so in the future
Story 2: NTA. As was said, there were definitely other things that could have been sold - unneeded electronics, the child's mother's engagement and wedding rings, ANYTHING, except something they STOLE from OP and they stole her only memory of her mother. If it was the very last resort and they child would have died otherwise, then, sure, her life is worth more than a ring. But it doesn't sound like it was the last resort. OP is not the asshole and I hope she can cut her parents out of her life completely and find a family that is actually going to care about her. The dad is an absolute A-hole.
3rd story (missing break) something very similar happened to my BIL when he worked for Wally World. He had been working for 5 years and decided to take the vacation he was eligible for. He comes back to a pink slip. Apparently, he ran over a customer's foot with the floor buffer while he was at home, nowhere near the store. This was the result of over a year of harassment from the manager. He got his revenge though, don't worry. He was playing an online game and one of his guild members just so happened to be the secretary to the CEO of Walmart. He mentioned to this person what had happened along with a few other details of things that were happening in the store, and they provided him a login/password to the payroll system (this all happened prior to his being fired). He was assigned to bike assembly, so he was right next door to the computer room, and there were no cameras in the hall or the computer room (oops!) so he logged into the system, downloaded the information, and then logged out. So naturally when he was fired, he used a burner email account and sent the files to corporate. Well, it turns out that Ms. Manager was using her own credentials to modify time clock records, ie. take 5 mins here, 10 mins there, etc. but that was not the only thing she was doing, it turned out that she was also adjusting the shrink (theft) numbers, and being a manager she knew the magic numbers to use so she would get her bonus at the end of the year, but none of the associates would. This is considered embezzlement. So fast forward many months later and he is notified that they are going to allow her to quit and if she doesn't, she will be fired and charged with embezzlement. So the night that she was going to get the message, he went to the store, stood right near the manager's office, and waited. Ms. Manager comes out of the office looking rather upset, and all he does is make eye contact with her and smile. He said it was like a lightbulb just went off and she instantly knew he was behind it! He has never set foot inside a Walmart since and does not plan on ever going back.
Wifi point story: NICE service to have available. But I agree with OP, don't abuse the system or the staff either. You want help? Then you'd best learn some better behaviors. Sold ring story: NAH! OP, you have every right to feel bitter about losing that family heirloom. But I also have to say that the ring was not worth a life. There are no winners here, only losers. Break deleted story: I understand management's and upper management's desire to keep customers happy, after all, they want and need the customers to keep coming back and buying things. But if you do this at the (unfair) expense of your employees, you soon won't have any employees and you'll still go out of business. It's a balancing act.
Story 3: There were two more updates, unfortunately the last one is deleted. Also, the original original poster is u/Tomato_Ketchup. In the third update, the manager somehow didn't get fired. Ketchup called corporate again, threatening subpoena. Corpo redirected Ketchup to the HR department and HR promised to look into this issue.
Ring story. NTA. OP should file theft charges against the AH dad and step. It wasn't their property to sell. Sorry about the other kid but it wasn't up to OP to "save" her
Story 3: Way to bring the hammer down on the douchebag wanna be manager!!! Score one for the little guy. Hope you can get the woman banned for life from the store. That would be the icing on the cake!! LOL!!!!!
Likely not but who knows maybe they actually got a manager who was able to shut that s*** down but well he did say management corporate suck So who knows I'm gonna be optimistic for a man's hope good manager was sent one. Who doesn't have the customers always right and antagonism towards his employees Would be a nasty surprise that karen to see Not only did the nice manager who took her side is gone but that employee she was angry eye is still working there And now she doesn't have a single ally and she's being brought to task for Her bad behavior when she starts up
First story: OP tell them, "NOTHING was ever about me. Everything has ALWAYS been about what you can out of me. You never asked anyone else for help-just me." But have these people ever heard of St Jude's or Shriners? They help with childhood cancers and have the leading medical technology in this area. They don't charge and if housing for parents is needed, Ronald McDonald house exists for this reason.... And they don't charge either
4th story, i got our downstairs neighbors evicted for pot too! Well, they got themsleves evicted i guess. They would loudly fight all night long, throwing glass at each other and cussing like crazy. They were throw things out the window at each other which was next to my car and occasionally hit my car. I got sick of their fighting (keeping my 1 year old and newborn up all night) so called the police for their pot. Cops showed up at the same time as their "customers", they were arrested for possesion and selling many drugs, not just pot. The next day, the guy's brother showed up and landlord gave him 24 hours to get anything from the apartment, everything else was forfeited to the dumpster. It was so peaceful after that.
Our company had a system where you report being late every 15 minutes. I was on crutches and managed to miss my early train by mere seconds, and I thought "ok, I'll catch the next one and I'll still be on time". However, there was some sort of traffic commotion including ambulances crossing the street close to my workplace, and I arrived 8:16:05 instead of 8:15:00 a.m. 😬 My boss made me report an extra 15 minutes tardy, immediately as he saw me. I was one minute and 5 seconds late. I guess he was in the right for this, but... oh well.
3rd story: You shouldn't try to forge some data. There always is a historical backup of this action. It only can go through, if you have access to the database and know the program well enough to know, in which tables are traces. Last story: I should state, that in most appartement houses in Germany the walls, ceiling and (of course) floors are much thicker than in the US. But in my two last appartements, the neighbours after told me, when I moved out, that they didn't even know, if I was at home. Thicker walls? In the US you could punch a hole into a wall. When you punch at the wall with the same strength in Germany, you would probably break your hand as it is a brick wall.
Dude is screwed if he's a member of the company I work for, they have an employee's refusal to sign paperwork paperwork list of people to track and get rid of
Story 3: All of this happened because a customer decided to try and interrupt someone's lunch break, and it lead to the manager deciding to try and ruin OP's life just to appease the customer. Well, that's not how it works. Better to lose a nasty customer than an innocent employee
As well as fire a stupid manager. Looks like when he heard about the investigation, he panicked and tried to save his own a**. Too bad tampering data isn’t as easy as it used to be.
“Let it be”… ? Only a jerk would suggest that to the OP on the time-card story. The new manager tried to stab the op in the back and got caught. Plus I suspect the manager didn’t realize the falsifying time cards can get a company into serious legal trouble.
Story 3 And everyone seems to have forgotten the whole thing started with an entitled Karen who wanted the employee to serve her on her lunch break. Maybe if fewer bosses caved in to these people, they would stop acting this way. Does "The customer is always right" really trump bad manners?
Retail and foodservice establishments need to throw that "customer is always right" mantra in the trash. The customer is NOT always right. Give them an inch and they think they're a ruler.
Story 3 OP did everything by the book in my opinion. After all why let it go if some d-bag is literally trying to sabotage you even though it could get you fired. Using false pretenses or doctored evidence to get a person fired is not a crime but it should be. It should be a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison. It should be charged under the RICO Act
I worked at Applebees and we closed at 11 .. We had last call at 10.45.. This is in a small town in Virginia ... Two of the towns hot shots come in at exactly 10.45 . I gave them each a drink letting them know they could order 2 at most as we just called last call.. they ordered 2 each and wanted a third as most Karens do ..I told them I had let them know we were closing and had called last call. .. They are mad but pay and leave .. NO tip of course .. I came in the next day only to be called into the office and fired after 6 years od service with no complaints just for following policy .. I was told later by one of the managers that fought for me , that it was not because of what I did , but who I did it to .. So just because they were on the town council I lost my job ...
If I came acrosa a Karen, I'd pull a page from George Orwell. (Possible Situation: Getting fast food; encounter Karen) Karen: "Why won't you give me your food?! You're so selfish!" Me: "It's amazing how thr habitus turns people into such fools who speak doublethink."
The reality is, life is more important than possessions. I am not saying what they did was a good thing, but at the same time, if I had ANYTHING of value that could help save a life, especially a child, then i could not justify not giving it up. No matter how much it meant to me. If my mother had given me something like that, in this same scenario, it would literally betray her memory to keep it at the cost of another.
To the girl whose ring was STOLEN, Do you by any chance happen to have a photograph of the ring they STOLE AND SOLD FROM YOU? 1st ask the pos "father" who he sold it to, if he doesn't remember or won't tell you try getting a picture of the ring and run an ad online and in any newspapers asking if anyone has this ring along with the story of what happened to you. Maybe if you can get the story out just maybe you can somehow buy it back from the person who bought it especially if they learn what they did to you without your permission and that at the young age you were you didn't know that there were ways that you could stop them from stealing your last memory of your mother's family
2nd story, I don't know if they tried gofundme or other method to raise money or other charities or loan that they can take up. If they tried everything, then taking the ring is their last option. I do have sympathy for all parties that need to get through this.
later it was said,that there was money that OP's father had saved before OP's mother died,that the evil father and step-mother wanted to take from OP...
1st story: The $480 were never fines. OP actually stated as much. It was the cost of lost and destroyed items. So it wasn't some arbitrary fine for being late but actually accountability for actual costs to the library.
Story 2: I always had to leave work for the half hour because I could never get peace. I was always interrupted and had to help a customer!! So I had to just leave. It was woefully unprofessional and horrible!!!
First story - if the father has stolen the ring and sold it, without permission, then this is indeed a crime. OP has already said that she’s cut ties with her family, so now is maybe the time to get the police involved !
Story 1 is about the library, Story 2 doesn't involve an office or boss, Story 3 is about a guy pestered on his lunch break by a customer, Story 4 does not involve a workplace or boss So, where is the story mentioned in the Title? Where is the boss framing the OP for theft?
These Karens got their way by screaming and having fits when they were toddlers, and it's worked pretty good since so they've never changed their ways. They are too stupid to realize how it also hurts them.
Double up on jobs, bet OP would have gotten on board with part time work as well to get cash... do a payment plan, but stealing something like that is just wrong.
@@sailorstar3148 Call the police, like any other person. 5 year olds know to call the police about stealing, a 12 year old should know that for certain.
My mom died before i was born. Like Macbeth, from his mother's womb, untimely ripped. If my dad had pawned off her things for a half sibling....unending grotesque violence at every possible turn. Those "parents" got off easy.
I can't wait to hear all the people that are like well I don't like confrontation so I just rolled over and let it happen! Rather than lighting the supervisor on fire like the OP did! How many doormats spineless amoebas would have just let that go in this day and age?
Lunch Break Story: I'd have just told her "It is Illegal for me to work Off the Clock, so Legally, I can NOT help you!" and walked away.
Then I'd report the Idiot Manager for trying to violate State Law to both Corporate and HR AND the State Department of Labor...there WILL be a record of the Time Sheet Edit in the system that IT can find and that will show both that OP's Time Sheet WAS altered AND who mad the change...
Story 3 - The system would have a record of anyone changing OP's time. Also, at that young age if a customer threatened to get me fired I'd just say "nah, I quit. Now that I no longer work here, I'm gonna wait outside for you and I'm kicking your ass in the parking lot."
"Wait, so you're trying to get me to break the law, and you're gonna get me fired for not doing it? Good luck lady."
Story 2: the parents couldn't take the wee babe to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital? Not one red cent is charged while the child is a patient, hell, they'll even fly you down there, covering your food and lodging. As much as I will always say F@$# cancer, OP is definitely NtAH. A multi-generational heirloom like her mom's wedding ring is absolutely priceless.
3rd story: That's insanely illegal. If someone forces you to work during your lunch break, you're legally allowed to sue them, keep your job, AND get a refund lunch break. And on top of that, deleting that stuff is EVEN MORE illegal as its considered retaliation!
Edit after the good update: HAHA SERVES HIM RIGHT! THAT'S SO ILLEGAL, HE'S LUCKY HE ONLY GOT FIRED INSTEAD OF PUT IN JAIL!
Not to mention it's illegal to falsify timesheets
It's also considered time clock fraud. My husband has had this happen at several different jobs, he's also been told to work while still clocked out on break bc it would only take a minute and they were very busy. I told him if something happened and he got injured while working off the clock it would be so hard to claim workman's comp bc the company would just claim he wasn't on the clock but they still continued to do it. This typically happened while he was working as a mechanic so there was a lot of dangerous equipment that was used
Maybe but see in At will and or right to work (my state is both) theyll just make up a different reason to fire you heck they dont even have to have a reason though theyll make up one just to have something on the paperwork or show unemployment when they fight having to pay it.
Getting fired might not be the only consequence for his actions. Depending on what the corporate attorneys advise, they might hand over the evidence of his fraud to the state's employment commission to cover their own butts, since OP (an employee whose hours were altered) was the one who brought up possible legal issues.
I work in a retail pharmacy and have no shortage of people who try to hit me up for help when I'm off the clock. I straight up tell them that it's against both company policy and the law for me to work off the clock, including helping customers. That's time we don't get paid for. I don't make the rules.
Story number 3: OP is the MVP. As someone who worked in customer service off and on several times including as a server, you can't let power tripping bosses walk all over you. You have to fight back. Good on OP!
I'm surprised that corporate took the risk by firing him over the phone. That could've backfired big time.
@@GeorgieB1965 if it's a right-to-work state, they can do whatever they want (including firing someone seemingly without cause just to appease a loudmouth, overbearing customer) and, usually, get away with it because no one has the nerve to fight back. Then there's people like OP who know how to play the game and let the power tripping boss set their own trap.
Story 2/ Am I misunderstanding or did OP say the parents are trying to take money the dad set aside for OP before marrying the step mom. Why didn’t they take that the first time instead of the ring.
.............huh didn't even think about that until you pointed it out
I thought the same thing. Perhaps, OP would have been more open to using her future funds for the treatment.
That's truuuue. It just adds more to the idea that the parents were desperate to not have to use any of their own actual money and instead decided the responsibility of paying the medical bills should go to the actual child who cannot work instead of themselves.
The money was likely in some sort of trust or otherwise untouchable until she turned 18/for college expenses.
They coulda sold their wedding rings 🤔 instead of her deceased moms ring 🙄🙄
Something tells me there wedding rings where cheapos and ios was super expensive if it was a family heirloom it was proably something rare
@@nekuraookami yeah that makes sense 🤔
@@ambera.3556 OP said their father didn't have a lot of money - I imagine the ring was the only realistic option to secure any real amount of funds.
How do you know they didn’t?
It probably wouldn't be a giant leap to assume they sold everything they had to keep their daughter alive
S2: NTA.
Why did they not sell other things?
TV? Phones? Cars? Their own Wedding Rings?
Get a loan?
Contact St. Jude's?
as mentioned,there was no other valuable stuff,according to OP.i'm sure OP haven't thought of the evil father and step-mother have souls or body that they can sell,too...
@@teslagod7221 There is always something one can sell.
Old line trimmer, old furniture.
Even several small things can add up to a small amount of money
@@IIGrayfoxIIsimple really, they'd rather screw over the other child, rather than make any sacrifices themselves
@@IIGrayfoxIIoh it's quite simple really, the ring wasn't theirs to sell, it wasn't their property, they weren't willing to part with any of "their" possessions, but they were willing to part with OP's possessions, bonus points if they originally belonged to someone who couldn't actually protest the sale (like OP's deceased mother) which makes what they did far more scummy
Story 2: NTA rings and jewelry resale for significant less than they were worth when new. I would be shocked if the got more than $1000 for it. There are numerous other things they could have sold/ways to save that they could have done but selling the ring was the easy way out. Stealing your daughters savings was also the easy way out.
Seriously this. My dad has tried to tell me I should sell my mom's jewelry that's supposed to be mine (what he says, but no it's going to my siblings who knew my mom better) to spend on things for myself when it's not very valuable monetarily. Hell, even my genuine amethyst silver ring that my oma gave me isn't that monetarily good
Exactly. You only get scrap-value for re-sold jewellery. It is a tiny fraction of the retail price.
@@DT-dc4br Stop acting like you're the spoiled brat, please. They could've gotten a loan or at least tried to, because jewelry selling is not going to cut it. No, they didn't want the money for the treatment as the jewelry wasn't going to give but a tiny amount that wouldn't pay for shit, they wanted to hurt the poster
@D T the sick person was the daughter so I assume the child doesn't work
There are a number of other things that people have in a home that can be sold (the mothers jewelry, fathers wedding ring, clothes, if they have 2 cars they could sell one) they could also cut back on other luxury things (I'm assuming they had these things because they were able to save money for OP and if you live pay check to pay check your not saving money) there are a number of charities to reach out to that help with cancer cost for children. They choose the ring because it wasn't important to them. They wanted to take OPs savings because it wouldn't effect them
@@jennydorrance1884 Yep exactly this. Their whole thing was wanting to hurt the OP, not to get money
Story 3. Lunches are unpaid. Simply ask the manager are you telling me I am required to work off the clock? Can I have that in writing? Problem solved.
There would be records of any schedule changes submitted but you better be absolutely sure you clocked out before claiming it.
This reminds me of when I was working for my father. You never gave me anything except $5 here were maybe $10 there, and I was always desperate for some bit of money to do something with. I'm talking about someone who was in my twenties and I had no independence from them.
I realized it on these construction sites we were working so often, there were often aluminum cans around here and there, so I started saving them and garbage bags and putting them in a bin in our backyard.
One day we come home from working hard, and I had already saved up about eight bags full of aluminum cans so that I could turn them in for some spending money, and what do I see?
The kids Macross the alley were dragging them to the other side of the alley to their backyard, as my mother was smiling and saying all kinds of happy things to them.
It turns out she felt sorry for these poor kids whose mother was a single mom, and gave them my aluminum cans so that they could sell them to get some spending money.
They not only didn't know where they came from, they didn't even acknowledge me when I arrived. They just were hauling my cans away. The last bag, as I was walking up to my mother to ask what was going on.
I told her, she had no right to take that away, that was all my hard work together all those cans, and I was trying to save up to get some money of my own.
I will never forget the look on her face when she smiled at me and said,
"So, what are you going to do? Are you going to go in take them back from those poor kids who don't have anything?"
And then she smiled even more broadly.
I'm not spoken with my mother in something like 9 years now. My father has been dead for a similar period of time, and I didn't speak to him for a few years before that.
Oh crap, whether salaried or hourly, Time-card manipulation is a serious crime. Fraud.
I hope the offender got time in prison.
2nd story:
Can we all just agree that it's messed up that anyone has to pay thousands of dollars to try to save a child from cancer? What kind of society sets up a system that tolerates that?
welcome to the American health care system were you have two choices go into debt to receive life saving treatment or die most people these days are choosing to die rather than putting a burden on their families
@@brothersgt.grauwolff6716 that’s awful 😢in UK we don’t realise how lucky we are with free healthcare
There is zero guarantee the treatment will work. Isn’t enough money in the world for to treat all those in need horrible is an understatement
@@chezsnailez I'm from Ontario Canada. I pay an extra $3OO per year in taxes for healthcare. Last year I got very ill: ER overnight stay, multiple CAT scans, an MRI and other tests, appointments with specialists, the treatments, etc. How much extra did I need to pay? NOTHING!
@@chezsnailez I actually have the bill. My my. It appears to be £0:00 Such a horrendous price. 😂
2nd story, I know plenty of people who gofundme. My own mum pawned all her valuables several times so we could eat, she never touched my inheritance.
My cousin stole my great grandmother’s wedding rings. They would have been passed down to me, had she not sold them for drug money.
2nd story. Why not sell the parent’s wedding rings or stepmoms rings from her first marriage.
I had a manager mess with my time clock punches on a Sunday in a way that would both deprive me of overtime, but attempt to hide his incompetence in staffing. Long story short, I wrote a LONG email to corporate HR warning them that if my times for Sunday were not restored within 24 hours, as I originally entered them, and they could easily corroborate with A, B or C, that I would being going to my state labor board early Tuesday morning. Lo and behold, my hours were restored mid-day Tuesday. You do not mess with the labor board, they don't play nice.
Third story: I'm with OP. If you tries to mess with someone you better be ready if it backfires in your face. He deserved it.
11:31 - That customer is crap and so is the manager, since they took it out on the employee. If an employee is contracted to have a break of a certain time period, then that's what they're entitled to - no ifs, buts or maybes. You just know the manager would call it "theft" (on the employee's part) if the employee took a couple of minutes more break than was contracted, so it's likewise "theft" (on the manager's part) if the manager expects an employee to give up their break to do work.
I fully agree with the employee taking it to the next level - the manager ultimately did this to himself by committing fraud.
Story 4: what is the point of a quiet timeframe in a complex if it is not enforced? Might as well just remove it. Lmao
With the bad boss story, one thing I think needs addressed that got overlooked is the psycho Karen. If she needed help, why demand it from someone on break? The OP offered to find an associate to help her. That should have been enough. Needed help, offered help. Making it personal was stupid and bizarre. Had I been in her shoes, when a call for assistance was offered, I simply would have said "thank you. Enjoy your lunch." Not hard to be a decent person.
just understand one thing about entitled and narcissistic people,their brain logic only processes stuff for their own needs and wants,when their brain process stuff for others,it becomes illogical and unreasonable...
Story 3: Well done, that was the best way I could see to deal with the manager. Plus from a company POV why would you want someone who does things like that on the payroll? They are a law suite waiting to happen.
Yep guys like that are likely to do wage theft on overtime ect, to make himself look better
For the second story, why are two adults expecting an actual child to take care of someone else's medical bills?
because that child is never important and only to be used and abused...
Karen-squatch is the scariest variety of us bigfoots
Wow, I haven't seen you in ages.
Last story, if the upstairs neighbour had an ounce of decency he could’ve used headphones, I prefer headphones you get much better sound
I don’t get where people even begin to think that behavior is okay. Headphones are definitely the way to go for both OP and neighbor.
But that would have to require common sense. If these people actually used common sense, these stories wouldn't exist 🤣
yeah that was a bit rude but I don't agree with how the OP handled it, makes OP look too much of a hypocrite
I think it’s hilarious when someone calls them self a valued customer. They’re not valued, or else every employee would know who they are and Care. She’s only a valued customer to herself. Should’ve said something like “and I’m a valued employee, and I can’t help people if I have an empty stomach”
"I'm off the clock. That means right now, I'M a valued customer; and this customer is telling you to piss off and find an employee."
No customer is that important. Every customer is replaceable.
That second story is tough. I think the US health care system is the a-hole in the story. If health care wasn't so prohibitively expensive for the average person, the situation would never have happened. Being unable to afford medical bills doesn't mean you're suddenly entitled to other people's stuff. That said, I suspect the theft was motivated by desperation rather than malice.
3 yr old with cancer. St. Jude's takes in children with cancer free of charge. Did they not even attempt to apply for this?
@@meh2510 You realize that the US is just one out of 195 countries right?
@@Morten_Storvik But it's also one of the few countries with the problem of ridiculously expensive healthcare. So, odds are, this family resides in the U.S.A.
@@nancyomalley6286 In the UK, if you want an new "unproven" treatment, not only do you have to pay for it entirely out of pocket, the NHS will demand that you pay back anything they've already paid for your treatment. Perhaps they don't do this anymore, but I've read about quite a few cases of that sort in the relatively recent past. They will also deny you surgeries such as knee replacement because you are overweight, claiming that you won't recover as well from the surgery with the extra weight. Of course one reason a lot of people with bad knees have extra weight is because the bad knee makes it very hard to be active. Some districts have wait lists of YEARS for kids with recurrent ear infections to get ear tubes. The NHS just doesn't have the money to pay for everything that every person needs or wants to get done.
Cancer treatment in the US is expensive but doctors don't deny patients treatment just because of costs, and usually have ways to work with drug companies, charities, hospital funds for this purpose and other sources to get treatment covered. The patient may end up with debt, but at least they are alive. Many other countries pay for everything, but the wait lists are months or years, which a cancer may not give the patient.
@@pippagrey9633 Nobody said "unproven treatment". It was said "alternative treatment" which does not automaticially means unproven. It was just a treatment that the local hospitral didn't offer. At least that's how I understood it.
Engagement Ring Story: OP should have called the Police to report the ring stolen...
Depending on it's value, it could easily be Felony Theft...
I would have...and I'd have told Dad that if they steal MY ring and sell it, I WILL Press Charges...Family or not! If they desperately need that much money, take out a Mortgage or a Loan to pay for the treatment, do NOT steal from me to pay for it!!!
How selfish can you possibly be, valuing a ring over someone`s life out of sentimental value, effectively taking a piss on the mother`s memory? Are you people serious?
@Morten Storvik A wrong doesn't make a right buddy. Be careful about the stance you're taking because you're validating stealing and taking from other people as long as it's for a good cause. Don't let stuff like robin hood fool you In the believing that's right. The father is a fool for assuming an essence that he could still have a relationship with his daughter after everything no he just assumed she would get over. It and once she saw the stepdaughter was doing well all from the sacrifice of losing the ring. She'd have realized that it was foolish to be sentimental over something like that as long as it's saved alive only no no it didn't and now. He's spending every moment realizing he lost his daughter. And while hes still trying to re establish that relationship hes basically devolved into begging her for money to do the same thing that caused distance in The first place he has not learned one bit. Because you were assumed they would have money saved over after how this happened in the 1st. Place wouldn't have been a good idea to save just in case because cancer Can Come out of remission
Don't assume that because you're on the side that save the life that you have the moral high ground you don't And it's the height of arrogance and the very sin Of pride to assume you Do.
Stepmother assumes she's selfless but in reality she's only selfless and what she'll do to save her daughter's life she's completely selfish in What she has to do to save that life. She said she was dismissal of the poster's feelings even insulted the ring by just calling it some rain and still expected her to give the. Money to save her daughter just because. On one hand as I said she's selfless as she's doing everything she can to save her daughter's life but she is selfish and that she's. Taking stuff that is not hers to do it. She doesn't give a d*** if her husband loses his relationship with as she says his evil heartless daughter Didn't come out of her loins So she doesn't give a d*** How. She? Feels she's only using insults and labels to get her way to shame her into giving her what she wants that's nothing to condemn her On Because it shows she cares for a daughter, but At the same time it kinda is something to condemn her on Since I have to wonder if the tables were turned would she have gone as far as her husband did to save her daughter for the poster. I highly doubt It if she was on the hook to give up something of hers to pay to save his daughter's life She's made this quite clear that no she doesn't give a d*** that's his daughter. Why should she have to pay a price for it basically? You have to ask yourself a question are you willing to make the same sacrifice? Other people are willing to do that's something the father didn't question. And now he sacrificed everything his previous relationship and now his relationship with his only surviving daughter she will spend the rest of her days despising and hating him And who knows he guys family involved in trying to pressure her into seeing his point of view that she had to cut them out meaning in essence one. Way or another some or maybe all resent him for the fact that they lost contact with a Blood relative All for the sake of his current wife and her daughter Who they don't have a tie with. They're only on a side because they made their choice and now they're stuck with him. He should have seen this coming but he didn't because he viewed it in the same vein. His wife viewed selling that ring it was just a ring what's the problem I have the wonder if it's lost on him when his daughter said she wished he was the one who died And not her mother. Maybe it is he seems to be dense Or maybe he's done on purpose because it's easier to justify his decisions But say as you will yes he saved a life. But I need to ask you a question? Would you be happy if someone stole money That would keep you from going homeless and hungry on the street if it was for the sake of saving someone's life and you never agree to it?
@@Morten_Storvik Hey buddy get the stick out of your butt if someone stole a family heirloom from you and sold it would you be angry even if it’s for a good cause. Like yeah that person is alive but you can never get back that heirloom that is so important to the family. Also, if they want so desperately to save their daughter, why didn’t they sell their own engagement rings? Why did it have to be a family heirloom that was supposed to be OP’s.
@@Morten_Storvik to the OP it was worth more then someone's life as it was part of her mothers family for generations. To her that has more value than anything as it was the only ONLY memento of that side of the family and shouldn't be sold at all when there's more options
@@Morten_Storvik you're clearly the stepmom..... Being a total psycho Karen on EVERY comment that doesn't agree with you. OP had NO obligation to some random little sick girl and her mom's family heirloom IS worth more than her dad's lame excuse to steal the money, guarantee he did NOT use it for medical treatment, too many flaws in this. OP deserved the ring, stepsister probably died anyways so it was all for nothing.
Steal something left to me in an inheritance and then sell it?
Cutting them off would only be the beginning. Call the cops file the report for stolen property and sue him! Scorched earth all the way!
I have a feeling the step-mom wanted to sell the wedding ring so that all reminders of her husband’s dead wife are gone. Which is 🥶🥶🥶
Story 3: What OP had to go through was a nightmare. Our workplace recently changed to a new punching system, and it drives everyone nuts. My Supervisor actually told me that she was not credited for all the hours she worked for one reason or another, and management didn't do anything about it. Like anyone she wants to be paid for the hours she was there working, not just what's logged. So I've been taking pictures of my completed work week and proposed number of hours in case there is an issue. It actually came in handy recently, but not in the way you expect. I had to leave early for an emergency, and my ending shift punch didn't go in correctly, but the day still showed the right hours. My manager, being a guy who looks out for his employees, didn't know about that, and tried doing me a favor by filling my time for the rest of the shift. Of course I got overpaid, but I didn't want that to come back at me looking like I was stealing time. So I told him, we figured it out, and he contacted HR. They made the proper deduction on my next paycheck, but since I logged a bit of overtime, they were super nice and let me keep that, and only reduced my regular hours. Why can't everyone have a work environment like that?
If they really needed so much money that they selled a heirloom, why didn't they first sell both of their own weddingrings? They could buy an other when the daughter was better. But an heirloom cant be bought again. If that wasn't enough money, they could always ask for the heirloom and maybe OP would be willing to give it up. The story didn't mentioned that they looked for other options. Taking a lean on the bank or something. So I do understand OP.
Actually the story states that the only thing they had of value was the ring and I'm sorry even if it's a heirloom it's not more important than a child's life. Do I feel the girl has every right to be upset, yeah I do but as a parent if it means both children live even if one never talks to me again I would have sold the ring too. What a sad world we live in where everyone thinks a girls ring is more important than a three year olds life smh
@@candasjankowski6627 Glad to see sane person here. I just can't believe the number of the people, who think, that he in the wrong and a bad guy here and that he "chose" someone. Like, for real?
It wasn't theirs to sell. They stole it. Sell your own stuff
Story #1 Public Librarian here...yep happens every day all the time. Turn in the items (books, DVDs, CDs and electronics) all will go smoothly. Mess up and you just complicate your life.
having a library is a gift people and it is a free library unlike a lot of other countries. be honest and stop messing with these folks. I had a library card since I was six and no one in any library I went too were mean to me. be thankful and do not mess with them
What a terrible manager! It's a good thing he got fired before he did anything worse.
So, for story two concerning op's mother's ring and the child with cancer, I can't help but think, the child is 3 years old, 3 year olds eat a lot of sugar, sugar feeds cancer cells. What is op's dad and step mom feeding the kid for the cancer to "come back" so suddenly?
My parents have a friend who was at an advanced stage of cancer. The doctors said she only had a few months to live at best. She decided to go on a completely sugar free diet, not even fruits nor diet sodas were allowed, absolutely zero sugar. Months later the doctors were shocked that not only was she alive and healthy, but that her cancer had actually receded. Today, years later, she's healthy and cancer free, but she's still deciding not to eat any sugar out of her personal choice.
With that in mind, I can't help but wonder, how much sugar is op's step mom feeding her kid for the kid's cancer to return after an already expensive treatment that cost op her mother's ring? Op is definitively not the AH, and while I wouldn't call op's step mom neglectful, she's definitively not informed about the dangers of sugar, especially in this modern age where so many colorants are added to candies, turning them into the perfect cancer-giving pills. Op's step mom only has herself to blame.
Story 3: Proud of that person for turning it around on the manager.
I was once framed for something I didn't do at work because the boss hated me because I needed accommodations due to being disabled and conspired with her friend (who also worked there). There were no cameras or anything, so it was a "he said, she said" situation and I didn't have a leg to stand on since I was basically appealing to the person who was trying to get me fired. It didn't occur to me to call up corporate and tell them what those two b-words did to me, and I really didn't want to fight for a job where the boss and her little minion would try to make my life miserable.
In the very least, years later, I was driving past that area and noticed that the business had closed down and the building was going to be used for something else. So, at least I got a consolation prize.
Story #4: OMG I feel for OP! I’ve had more than my share of rude, entitled, neighbours. From couples with 4 kids, in an upstairs flat, letting their crotch goblins play bowls in their hallway over my head, to a guy who thought blaring cop shows right at the point where shots are being fired! F my PTSD went from 0 to 12 and I swear he sat with his remote deliberately trying to freak all the neighbours out! I suspected the owners of the property were trying to get us all to leave, as many properties in the area were being converted into condos at the time. Some owners, I found out later, were hiring people, put them in an empty unit, then reap the rewards later.
The town I live in, in Sweden. Between 10pm and 7 am. You call security guards, called Securitas to come to noise complaints. If the same person have them at the door , the third time. Bang a hefty fine. They keep records of every call
Story 3: As soon as the OP talked about how his break was no longer on his digital time sheet, I was immediately thinking "these digital time clocks log any changes made and WHO made them. It isn't going to take much investigation to find out what happened." I LOLed at the managers response; he should've known he was toast right then and there even before trying to fix the problem he caused.
And to the "valued customer", I'd say to her, "Yeah, like we're going to go out of business for losing one of the over 300 different customers we get every day..." One of the best ways to get a Karen to lose her clout is to make it clear that she's very unimportant.
Maybe the manager had a thing for Karen
(I can't believe I said that without throwing up!)
The manager is lucky he only got fired
He SHOULD have gotten arrested
Well, any place that calls for reference will get from HR " I can only confirm start and finish dates for this person" as replay, a code for them having fired him for business reasons.
I know how noisy neighbours go, a couple years ago we had a REALLY REEEEALLY Annoing neighbour who kept blasting music day and night almost every day and despite several complaints and calls to the police nothing was done. Thankfully eventually buddy just abandoned his apartment one day and never came back. If anything I imagine managment for the building was glad because the guy was loud, destructive and very threatening. Its a wonder why the cops being called several times to his place never did anything to deal with his obnoxious and threatening behaviour.
5:40 That's messed up to take the last memento of not only her mother but that whole side of her family. If she was an adult she could've made an intelligent division, but he took advantage of his 12yr old child. He ripped out her heart & then father, new wife & daughter all ate it while she watched. Sorry for the graphic details.
No need to apologize it was quite illustrative of the feelings that she had
And do you think her mother would have wanted her to have that attitude?
@@Morten_Storvikdo you think they should have sold the stepmother’s jewellery instead as that would be a better idea
@@stuartwalker9597 Maybe she simply did not have as valuable jewellery as the story indicated? Either way valuing a ring over a *dying child* because of sentimental value is *wrong* .
@@Morten_Storvikthey had other family to ask, loans, I’d sell my own crap and do anything physically possible before asking a fucking 12 year old to bear the adult burden
Story 2 it's not a tough one. The fact is that they should not have sold her maternal mother's family hairloom. They should have worked out something else or got a loan or contacted their family for help. And they should have worked out a plan on the instance that the cancer came back since it can, this is SIX YEARS LATER. and they still didn't have their shit together or a plan. Don't just go back to OP and demand more from her, you're the parent work something out.
You`re right, its not a tough one. OP is one of the most selfish people i have seen in a long time. Imagine valuing a ring over someone`s life due to sentimental value.
A child should never be made responsible for taking care of the house(a couple of reasonable chores is fine, though), it’s occupants, or any financial issues. By stealing and selling the ring, the father committed financial abuse against his kid.
@@Morten_Storvik I think you need to re read that story and look at the comment. That pretty much stated they did not have the right to sell the ring they did not have the right for any of that yet they still did it anyway. Completely invalidating your moral stance so nice job picking the moral lowground. It's rare to see someone do that. Even rarer to see an idiot Who should have realized this do it! But I guess you were hoping nobody would act on fortunate questions and just accept that oh the poster is selfish for caring about some ring over Another person's life. And i'm sure you get people who are accusing you of being the stepmother. But no I rightfully just assume you're just some self Righteous idiot trying to hide behind moral high ground for your argument
That dude is answering to everyone that agrees with op xD they forget that OP was also a CHILD LOL and that kid had her mom's, dad's and step dad's family and none of them helped they are also AH but they are attacking op when everyone else was also selfish
@@northrix1219 That was the point! Their hypocrites and they know it! It's the classic shitshow where they all gang up on the victim in hopes their own shitty behavior isn't focused on! Too bad it amounts really to nothing but them ALL (but OP) being shitheads who accomplished nothing but embrassing themselves (maybe not to others, but they themselves can't ignore what they've done)
4th story:
The guy told OP to ''Deal with it'' And OP did, Karma is a B haha!
Story 1: This is why you should be polite and courteous to CSRs. If you treat them with respect, you may be able to get fees waived if you are polite. You attract more flies with honey than with vinegar.
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Story #2
ABSOLUTELY NOT THE A-HOLE!!!
NOT sorry either!!
I absolutely WOULD HAVE taken MY ring and put in a SAFETY DEPOSIT BOX at my bank!
The child's (step mom's kid) medical issues/costs are NOT YOUR responsibility!!
Yes, it's very sad.. but again..
NOT YOUR responsibility!!
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You have some serious growing up to do...
Exactly!! Children shouldn’t be made financially responsible for anything. They’re kids!!
@@Morten_Storvik says the asshole that hasnt sold all their stuff to save a dying kid but expects a 12 year old to. i assume if you have kids its only a matter of time before they go no contact
8:00 when you resort to insults especially to objects then something else is going on. the ring is not stupid
Story 3. Obviously, the fired manager forgot the first rule of working in retail: Cover your own ass, always.
Play stupid games, WIN STUPID PRIZES.
The parents in the second story should have started a go fund me.
That would only have been the right thing to do. But CLEARLY these idiots are too stupid to have kids.
They did show her any respect, still didn't respect her. Father chose the 2nd family over her
Regarding the stolen/sold heirloom engagement ring: I didn't hear anything about what other measures where attempted in order to raise cash for the step-child's treatment. It is mentioned that the child's father is not in her life- even if he wanted nothing to do with his daughter (as long as the OP was told the truth about this- and the father really is not involved- and they are not lying about who the father is), being the biological father means that he could/should be paying child support- even before the cancer diagnosis. The OP states that not only was the child's father absent, but his entire family is absent as well. I have to wonder if the bio dad's family even knew about her existence because I can't imagine any grandparent not wanting their granddaughter to have a chance at living. Granted, it is possible that what the OP was told is correct- but if feels like an attempt should have been made at contact before such a drastic step (stealing and selling the only thing the OP has left of their family- clearly there will be nothing sentimental from her time with her dad for her to cherish as well) was taken.
It sure sounds like the OP's father and step-mother didn't even look for alternate sources of money for this child. Do they each have their own vehicle? Are they renting a home/apartment or does anyone own property that could have been put up as collateral for a loan? Did they contact local media, churches, scout groups, etc. in an effort to get some kind of fundraiser going? I mean, heck- every time I go to my local dry cleaner, I add another quarter to the cardboard sign on the counter that is there to raise money for a local child who has leukemia.
I do understand the father and step-mother's reasoning for selling the ring- I can't even begin to imagine the terror they must have felt when realizing that the treatment was not covered and the child was basically handed a death sentence. Then, all of a sudden- there is a light that beckons the child back to life and can remove her from death row- the catch is - there is a price for this. That must have been truly awful (what does it say about our society- where a child can actually be left to die because of a lack of funds for treatment) and I do understand why they were desperate. Even so, It seems that they did not do their due diligence- turning over every possible way to help- other than devastating another child who already lost their mother and basically lost their father as well- since his heart was clearly planted directly next to his step-daughter to the exclusion of the OP.
Did they even try to contact the drug company? I know from experience that the pharmaceutical companies have reps who deal with and are in direct contact with local doctors regarding things like this and most of them have some sort of compassionate need program. I also wonder why they sold the ring outright, instead of taking a pawn loan on it. I am aware that this option costs more money in the end- but if the urgent need is for cash, the ring could have been pawned, with the OP's father retaining the ticket, allowing the ring to be re-claimed when the current crisis was over. I do understand that these loans are not indefinite, but you can always pay a small amount to get an extension and there was no need to actually sell the ring- unless they really didn't ever intend to try and get it back.
2nd Story: OP is definitely nta, she should have filed a police report for theft.
She is not the AH for valuing a *ring* over a childs *life* ? It had sentimental value tied to the mother? Well what would the mother have wanted OP to do? I highly doubt she would have wanted OP to value the ring over someone`s life.
@@Morten_StorvikThat depends, I mean, you don't have any obligation to give something really meaningful to you for basically a stranger, it sucks the situation of the child but that's not more important than the feelings of someone that might even still be mourning their dead mother
@@alfredogm4148 Did you seriously just try to claim that someone`s misplaced emotions are more important than saving a dying child? Their own step sister no less? Are you insane?
@@Morten_Storvik A few points to think about. That was OP's ring. An Inheritance from her deceased mom. It was stolen from her by her father and step mother who almost HAVE to have options other than stealing from a child. Reminder it was NOT their ring to take and sell. They just decided they were going too. Now they want take more from the daughter they stole from. She lost what was likely her only Inheritance from her mom for a child that isn't her responsibility to save. Normally I'd agree that a child's life is more important than a ring. But it wasn’t the dad and step-mom's ring to sell. Did they seriously have no options but to steal from a child?
@@alfredogm4148 entitled much.. that ring was no theirs to sell, as the money is not theirs to take
Story 3: Does this guy work for a certain "farmers market" where employees wear green? Cuz something akin to such happened at my old store a couple years back. And I 100% will be taking notes from this as the management at my place of work is as bad as this.
"I ain't" lol maybe OP in the library story should send her a grammar book to spite her
Story 4 I'd have probably get a cheap universal remote and aim it through his window, via the balcony, and mess with his telly. To make him think it's broken.
nope if your management is targeting you call corporate every time, A: this manager is messing with payroll, B: this manager is putting strikes on record 2-3 strikes is a termination and strikes 2-3 are easier once there is a rap sheet, and C: if he's doing it to one he is doing it to many, and will do so in the future
Some one messes with your life then you make sure they never do it again.
Done that plenty of times.
Story 2: NTA. As was said, there were definitely other things that could have been sold - unneeded electronics, the child's mother's engagement and wedding rings, ANYTHING, except something they STOLE from OP and they stole her only memory of her mother. If it was the very last resort and they child would have died otherwise, then, sure, her life is worth more than a ring. But it doesn't sound like it was the last resort. OP is not the asshole and I hope she can cut her parents out of her life completely and find a family that is actually going to care about her. The dad is an absolute A-hole.
3rd story (missing break) something very similar happened to my BIL when he worked for Wally World. He had been working for 5 years and decided to take the vacation he was eligible for. He comes back to a pink slip. Apparently, he ran over a customer's foot with the floor buffer while he was at home, nowhere near the store. This was the result of over a year of harassment from the manager. He got his revenge though, don't worry. He was playing an online game and one of his guild members just so happened to be the secretary to the CEO of Walmart. He mentioned to this person what had happened along with a few other details of things that were happening in the store, and they provided him a login/password to the payroll system (this all happened prior to his being fired). He was assigned to bike assembly, so he was right next door to the computer room, and there were no cameras in the hall or the computer room (oops!) so he logged into the system, downloaded the information, and then logged out. So naturally when he was fired, he used a burner email account and sent the files to corporate.
Well, it turns out that Ms. Manager was using her own credentials to modify time clock records, ie. take 5 mins here, 10 mins there, etc. but that was not the only thing she was doing, it turned out that she was also adjusting the shrink (theft) numbers, and being a manager she knew the magic numbers to use so she would get her bonus at the end of the year, but none of the associates would. This is considered embezzlement. So fast forward many months later and he is notified that they are going to allow her to quit and if she doesn't, she will be fired and charged with embezzlement. So the night that she was going to get the message, he went to the store, stood right near the manager's office, and waited. Ms. Manager comes out of the office looking rather upset, and all he does is make eye contact with her and smile. He said it was like a lightbulb just went off and she instantly knew he was behind it! He has never set foot inside a Walmart since and does not plan on ever going back.
Wifi point story: NICE service to have available. But I agree with OP, don't abuse the system or the staff either. You want help? Then you'd best learn some better behaviors.
Sold ring story: NAH! OP, you have every right to feel bitter about losing that family heirloom. But I also have to say that the ring was not worth a life. There are no winners here, only losers.
Break deleted story: I understand management's and upper management's desire to keep customers happy, after all, they want and need the customers to keep coming back and buying things. But if you do this at the (unfair) expense of your employees, you soon won't have any employees and you'll still go out of business. It's a balancing act.
Ring Story: Yes. And it's all because a pair of completely stupid and pathetic parents couldn't be LOGICAL and SENSIBLE.
Story 3: There were two more updates, unfortunately the last one is deleted. Also, the original original poster is u/Tomato_Ketchup.
In the third update, the manager somehow didn't get fired. Ketchup called corporate again, threatening subpoena. Corpo redirected Ketchup to the HR department and HR promised to look into this issue.
Putting it this way that manager in the story u just read had the final nail put in his coffin ⚰️
On the story about the lig ins that manager deserved to be FIRED
I'm sure the manager tampered with the footage.
Ring story. NTA. OP should file theft charges against the AH dad and step. It wasn't their property to sell. Sorry about the other kid but it wasn't up to OP to "save" her
Story 3: Way to bring the hammer down on the douchebag wanna be manager!!! Score one for the little guy. Hope you can get the woman banned for life from the store. That would be the icing on the cake!! LOL!!!!!
Likely not but who knows maybe they actually got a manager who was able to shut that s*** down but well he did say management corporate suck So who knows I'm gonna be optimistic for a man's hope good manager was sent one. Who doesn't have the customers always right and antagonism towards his employees Would be a nasty surprise that karen to see Not only did the nice manager who took her side is gone but that employee she was angry eye is still working there And now she doesn't have a single ally and she's being brought to task for Her bad behavior when she starts up
Thanks, Fluff. I needed you right now. I also call my maine coon "fluff".
First story: OP tell them, "NOTHING was ever about me. Everything has ALWAYS been about what you can out of me. You never asked anyone else for help-just me." But have these people ever heard of St Jude's or Shriners? They help with childhood cancers and have the leading medical technology in this area. They don't charge and if housing for parents is needed, Ronald McDonald house exists for this reason.... And they don't charge either
Story 1: for a moment I wondered if this was MY workplace but our wifi hotspots check out for three weeks, not one.
4th story, i got our downstairs neighbors evicted for pot too! Well, they got themsleves evicted i guess. They would loudly fight all night long, throwing glass at each other and cussing like crazy. They were throw things out the window at each other which was next to my car and occasionally hit my car. I got sick of their fighting (keeping my 1 year old and newborn up all night) so called the police for their pot. Cops showed up at the same time as their "customers", they were arrested for possesion and selling many drugs, not just pot. The next day, the guy's brother showed up and landlord gave him 24 hours to get anything from the apartment, everything else was forfeited to the dumpster. It was so peaceful after that.
Turn them in for theft and for harassment
Our company had a system where you report being late every 15 minutes. I was on crutches and managed to miss my early train by mere seconds, and I thought "ok, I'll catch the next one and I'll still be on time". However, there was some sort of traffic commotion including ambulances crossing the street close to my workplace, and I arrived 8:16:05 instead of 8:15:00 a.m. 😬 My boss made me report an extra 15 minutes tardy, immediately as he saw me. I was one minute and 5 seconds late. I guess he was in the right for this, but... oh well.
Loud neighbors, wait until a cop/action show is on and gunshots are fired. Record it. Tell the cops you think there's been a gunshot next door.
Can relate, old coworker tried to get me fired ON MY DAY OFF
3rd story:
You shouldn't try to forge some data. There always is a historical backup of this action. It only can go through, if you have access to the database and know the program well enough to know, in which tables are traces.
Last story:
I should state, that in most appartement houses in Germany the walls, ceiling and (of course) floors are much thicker than in the US. But in my two last appartements, the neighbours after told me, when I moved out, that they didn't even know, if I was at home.
Thicker walls? In the US you could punch a hole into a wall. When you punch at the wall with the same strength in Germany, you would probably break your hand as it is a brick wall.
Some people do not understand about how computers work.
Dude is screwed if he's a member of the company I work for, they have an employee's refusal to sign paperwork paperwork list of people to track and get rid of
Story 3: All of this happened because a customer decided to try and interrupt someone's lunch break, and it lead to the manager deciding to try and ruin OP's life just to appease the customer.
Well, that's not how it works. Better to lose a nasty customer than an innocent employee
As well as fire a stupid manager. Looks like when he heard about the investigation, he panicked and tried to save his own a**. Too bad tampering data isn’t as easy as it used to be.
Btw, I wonder what happened to Karen after the truth was revealed?
@@BersealiaDreamheartnothing
@@BersealiaDreamheart Absdolutely nothing, probably was sent a gift cert as "compensation" for her being a complete waste of good pig food.
AMEN to that i've had an IDIOT for a manager
“Let it be”… ? Only a jerk would suggest that to the OP on the time-card story. The new manager tried to stab the op in the back and got caught.
Plus I suspect the manager didn’t realize the falsifying time cards can get a company into serious legal trouble.
Story 3 And everyone seems to have forgotten the whole thing started with an entitled Karen who wanted the employee to serve her on her lunch break. Maybe if fewer bosses caved in to these people, they would stop acting this way. Does "The customer is always right" really trump bad manners?
Retail and foodservice establishments need to throw that "customer is always right" mantra in the trash. The customer is NOT always right. Give them an inch and they think they're a ruler.
I wonder how much of the wife's jewelery and valuables remained in her possession while they sold the OP's inheritance.
Story 3 OP did everything by the book in my opinion. After all why let it go if some d-bag is literally trying to sabotage you even though it could get you fired. Using false pretenses or doctored evidence to get a person fired is not a crime but it should be. It should be a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison. It should be charged under the RICO Act
I worked at Applebees and we closed at 11 .. We had last call at 10.45.. This is in a small town in Virginia ... Two of the towns hot shots come in at exactly 10.45 . I gave them each a drink letting them know they could order 2 at most as we just called last call.. they ordered 2 each and wanted a third as most Karens do ..I told them I had let them know we were closing and had called last call. .. They are mad but pay and leave .. NO tip of course .. I came in the next day only to be called into the office and fired after 6 years od service with no complaints just for following policy .. I was told later by one of the managers that fought for me , that it was not because of what I did , but who I did it to .. So just because they were on the town council I lost my job ...
Time to send that anonymous tip in the ATF about them breaking liquor laws then.....
Sounds like a good reason for wrongful termination lawsuit
@@SeanBZA This was 15 years ago.. Went on to a much better job and they lost a large customer base ..
@@SeanBZA IN a small southern town . ITs run by the good old boys network..
@@wendyjones3586 That is why you send to the federal one, not the local one. Cite the local ones are complicit in it.
If I came acrosa a Karen, I'd pull a page from George Orwell.
(Possible Situation: Getting fast food; encounter Karen)
Karen: "Why won't you give me your food?! You're so selfish!"
Me: "It's amazing how thr habitus turns people into such fools who speak doublethink."
The reality is, life is more important than possessions. I am not saying what they did was a good thing, but at the same time, if I had ANYTHING of value that could help save a life, especially a child, then i could not justify not giving it up. No matter how much it meant to me. If my mother had given me something like that, in this same scenario, it would literally betray her memory to keep it at the cost of another.
To the girl whose ring was STOLEN, Do you by any chance happen to have a photograph of the ring they STOLE AND SOLD FROM YOU? 1st ask the pos "father" who he sold it to, if he doesn't remember or won't tell you try getting a picture of the ring and run an ad online and in any newspapers asking if anyone has this ring along with the story of what happened to you. Maybe if you can get the story out just maybe you can somehow buy it back from the person who bought it especially if they learn what they did to you without your permission and that at the young age you were you didn't know that there were ways that you could stop them from stealing your last memory of your mother's family
2nd story, I don't know if they tried gofundme or other method to raise money or other charities or loan that they can take up. If they tried everything, then taking the ring is their last option. I do have sympathy for all parties that need to get through this.
later it was said,that there was money that OP's father had saved before OP's mother died,that the evil father and step-mother wanted to take from OP...
1st story: The $480 were never fines. OP actually stated as much. It was the cost of lost and destroyed items. So it wasn't some arbitrary fine for being late but actually accountability for actual costs to the library.
"If I go in and snatch one off the shelf, you can't stop me!" "The police can."
Story 2: I always had to leave work for the half hour because I could never get peace. I was always interrupted and had to help a customer!! So I had to just leave. It was woefully unprofessional and horrible!!!
First story - if the father has stolen the ring and sold it, without permission, then this is indeed a crime. OP has already said that she’s cut ties with her family, so now is maybe the time to get the police involved !
Story 1 is about the library,
Story 2 doesn't involve an office or boss,
Story 3 is about a guy pestered on his lunch break by a customer,
Story 4 does not involve a workplace or boss
So, where is the story mentioned in the Title? Where is the boss framing the OP for theft?
If OPs family lived in the US, they could have gone to St. Judges and got free, FREE care for the daughter. NTA OP, but your father and his wife are.
These Karens got their way by screaming and having fits when they were toddlers, and it's worked pretty good since so they've never changed their ways. They are too stupid to realize how it also hurts them.
I have a theory that those Karens, Kevins, and everyone else in between have never been told "no" to anything before in their lives. It shows.
Story 2: NTA. Actions have consequences, and they nuked the bridge when they stole from OP.
Double up on jobs, bet OP would have gotten on board with part time work as well to get cash... do a payment plan, but stealing something like that is just wrong.
Story 2: NTA, but you really should have called the police when they stole your mother's heirloom ring from you.
She was 12, to young to know what to do.
She was a 12 year old what do you think she was gonna do?
@@sailorstar3148 Call the police, like any other person. 5 year olds know to call the police about stealing, a 12 year old should know that for certain.
@@Ishlacorrin For all we know she could have but we don’t know but the police could’ve labeled it as a family issue
@@sailorstar3148 I mean based on the medical costs it did happen in the US, so terrible police as well as terrible health care does seem legit.
Treat others as you wish to be treated. You treat someone like they don't matter then they'll treat you as if you don't matter.
My mom died before i was born. Like Macbeth, from his mother's womb, untimely ripped.
If my dad had pawned off her things for a half sibling....unending grotesque violence at every possible turn. Those "parents" got off easy.
*HURRY UP AND MAKE ANOTHER ONE!*
This world needs to get over the idea that the customer comes first and the customer is always right.
I can't wait to hear all the people that are like well I don't like confrontation so I just rolled over and let it happen! Rather than lighting the supervisor on fire like the OP did! How many doormats spineless amoebas would have just let that go in this day and age?