@@OGTripleTriple vertical stand sold seperatly and on the blog they say disc drive ud have to buy the currently available one i assume the one for slim version
"Remember the promises we made about PS5 in 2019 but never really met them even for $500? Well now with $200 more, no vertical stand, no disc drive and probably a smaller SSD - cuz GPUs ain't cheap - we are finally going to fulfil our promise of peak graphics fidelity with performance...Definitely, Maybe." - Sony 2024
@@wben7833 Dude honestly I am gonna stay with my ps5 aint no way I am spending 800 euros that too for something in which I run any physical copies.... THIS IS DAYLIGHT ROBBERY
It hasn't even been 4 years, and they announce the pro model when PS5 games are STILL being ported to PS4 ? Sony has forgotten every lesson they learned from the PS3, and are back at square one
And 800€ vs. those $700 are the other joke to me. Yes, our friends in the US always have better prices than us in Europe. But more than 100€ difference?!
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@@TheStenius that's $700 before taxes though so the difference will be smaller
I can buy a new 4070 Super or used one and save some money. I really love what they are doing with it but I don’t know if I can justify it. It is too expensive in Europe.
800+ EUR? No disk drive, no stand? I would've gladly paid 600 EUR for a 1tb version with a disk drive, but your offer is ridiculous. You better hope PS5 Pro won't repeat Concord's fate.
They wanted to make it 1000€, but figured "well, maybe customers won't pay that for a console, but they might buy for 800 and pay 200 extra on a later date..."
@@Giggi2222 No games?! If you say that you miss the point. There are no games for the Series X either. Just games for XBox Series X/S. Imagine the outrage from PS5 owners if a game only runs on PS5 Pro. Were there any PS4 Pro games?! It's a hardware upgrade. It means it plays games better.
For all intents and purposes, consoles have basically become mini PCs... You're just locked into a very restrictive ecosystem. Now if I could install windows on this, or even Linux for those so inclined, then I could bring my vast Steam collection over. Would definitely be worth $700 to those just trying to get into the PC gaming scene.
@@SharpWits2013even more restrictive now they're killing off the disc drive. I'm honestly glad I never bought a ps5 for the maybe 3 games I'm interested in
Back in 2016 PS4 Pro open price was only 399$ and sold completely. Then now they sell PS5 Pro for 700$ with no disc drive and vertical stand, it's ridiculous 😂😂😂
To be fair I honestly felt a little grifted by the ps4 pro. Would've paid a little extra to get more than some games near 4k and a few 45 fps performance modes.
@@funkrobot9762 Yes, government are being greedy and printing a lot of money, so it devaluates. 399 USD in 2016 would be the equivalent to today as 522,91 USD. It is still bellow 700 USD, tho.
How is 700$=800€??? This is just insanity. 800€ for a console without a basic stand, not to mention the lack of optical drive. For what??? Are you nuts?
Sir, I am not paying $700 for that. I feel like a kid that was excited about something, and now that excitement is like a balloon that kissed a powerline.
You have absolutely lost it. SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS for this? No disc drive, no stand, and even worse, ALMOST NO PS5 EXCLUSIVES? OK, there are lots of exclusive Playstation games, but most of them are actually for the PS4… why would I even bother? I’ll be keeping my vanilla PS5 for a loooooong time, thank you very much.
I'm torn because I never got a vanilla PS5. I wasn't going to fight scalpers for one, or pay scalpers nearly $1k for it. And it took time for the current-gen library to build up. Then by the time they were readily available, the release of the Pro seemed around the corner. I'd have been okay with $600 without accessories, but $700 is harsh. Especially since that's currently a lot for me. I'll have to decide if I want to wait for a sale... or hope I have enough credit card points to cover most of the cost.
Like always, US prices don't include sales tax and the prices in Europe do. Add 19% for the German market for example to those 635€, you end up with 755€.
US prices pretty much never include taxes because they differ from state to state. The final price that US folks will pay is going to be closer to (or even higher than) 800$
I'm a playstation fan and I don't complain as much as some internet types but the price is a bit too high for definite. Don't know what they was even thinking because they should know consumers hate when you raise price and take away features. Removing the disc drive was such a dumb move. I was considering PS5 pro (was on the fence anyway) but I'll just wait for PS6 at this rate. I really hope they've not delayed PS6 too long for this overpriced thing haha. The weird thing is the PS5 was released 4 years ago so a GPU upgrade shouldn't really cost that much difference because performance would be better by now anyway with newer tech. They said 45% faster rendering while charging over 50% more price even though it's 4 years down the line and they're taking away the disc drive.
@fabianramirez7807 That's what I'm saying. It's literally gonna be here in max 4 years. £700 is sort of understandable if this was the next gen console which will be new for like 8 years. The fact this is just a mid-gen release to kill time for the ps6 and they charge that...
100% I coped just fine without the PS4 Pro and I'll cope equally fine with my day one disc drive PS5. Honestly people are way to OCD about frame rates and tiny difference in graphical fidelity these days.
@thegael791 had a day one ps4, which is now retired, and bought a ps4 pro and put a SSD into it. Has lasted me for 4 years of the ps5 life cycle. And still not upgraded.
Selling my normal ps5 for 400€ so the pro is basically worth 400€ because of that.. i see no problem for me, the only problem will be people who never had a ps5 and want the pro immediately
I was hoping with PS3 emulation rumours that it would have a disc drive and he'd be all like "It plays every PlayStation game ever made!", would have made the price easier to justify, but nope.
@@talibong9518 Yeah I don't want to be that guy, but it looks like Microsoft is still the only one supporting back compat to the extend of allowing old disc's in the new console. I really hope they keep that for the next Xbox.
$700 and STILL can't do full 4K 60, or even ANYTHING above 30 without doing upscaling? That's insane. Despite all these improvements my PC dwarfs the PS5 Pro's capability.
if you’re dissatisfied VOICE IT, you as a consumer have so much power. you changed the sonic movie, changed ps plus games multiple times, changed starbucks revenue. VOICE IT!!
Oh…it’s gonna happen… Check out these comments. Haha… I’ve been searching for ONE positive comment and can’t find one. This is a DOA release unless they do something to calm the fury.
“Vertical stand sold separately”, my brother in Christ you are charging 700 US dollars, I think you can afford to include a circular piece of plastic with the console.
@@night_fiend6 You're already wrong buying this "console". And don't come with the slave bugmen mentality of "You don't need to buy if you don't want". This kind of "thinking" is the reason why everything is turning to cr4p.
300 bucks more, minus a disk drive or a stand is absolute madness, there's absolutely no way that you couldn't make it €600 digital or €650 with disc drive
Doesn't it have an attachable one? I figure this is more for people who haven't already bought PS5 but won't wait for PS6. Or people who just have so much money it doesn't matter to them.
@@titularheroHate it when they lock the price across currencies 😭 some government body has to do something about it...I swear it could be cheaper to buy it in Europe then ship it to to the UK if your British
in order for scalpers to jump in there would have to be a demand for the product.... I am predicting that the ps5 pro will be stuck on the store shelves until it goes down in price to 500$
800 euros in Europe, with no disc drive and vertical stand... They're basically asking us to pay 1000$ for PS5 Pro in Europe. Sony has completely lost their mind.
$700 without disk drive and vertical stand? For what? There were less than 10 games that truly used the power of PS5 in these 4 years, and now I should buy something this expensive just for better fps? This is insane
@@abstractwarsthe matrix demo immortals from ea avatar frontier of Pandora but none of those games push it to the max those games where just poorly optimize
That's why there was no big announcement, this is for enthusiasts to buy, not your mainstream buyer. Those who understand BOM costs and current tech trends, find 700 a great price for such hardware when you factor in what's inside and form factor.
Am I the only one getting PS3 flashbacks from this? The PS3 when announced didn't feature any massive new game announcements and most of the talk was about a higher fidelity rather than new features. Then they reveal the price and you're hit with a "That much for a console? How? Why!?" reaction. At least the PS3 was a whole new console generation, the PS5 Pro doesn't have that excuse. The price was so insane at the launch of the PS3 that they had to lower the price significantly and sell it at a loss for years, feels like this might be the case for the Pro which is sad. Instead of this being an incentive to get the PS5 for those people who haven't gotten one yet, it's just another reason to wait even longer for price drops. Also, why tf does it cost a 100 euro more than pounds and USD?! Ok, fair the pound is worth more than the euro, but not that much more. Not to mention that USD is worth LESS than Euros. As of writing this comment it's 182$ more expensive in countries that uses Euro! I'm Norwegian and it's rumored to cost 9000 NOK here which is 130$ more...
Planned on getting one to experience GTA6 sooner, but now I'll gladly wait a year or more to play it on PC. They've already lost my sale. Haven't owned a console since PS2, now I'm not going to bother with a PS5 of any sort either lol.
Hey guess what? You don't have to buy this. The PS5 Pro isn't going to replace the base PS5. You can still get a base PS5 instead of the Pro. They're not forcing you to buy this. With the PS3 the price was pretty much forced onto its consumers.
@@TheSoxor123 Would rather blow the $500 for base or $700 for pro on steam if I'm being honest... I'd get far more mileage that way than PS5's current slim ecosystem.
@@IH8YH they can never guarantee what devs do in their games though. If I make a game and I choose to use graphical technology that's way beyond the capabilities of the PS5 Pro and therefore only get 30fps on it, what are they gonna do? Tell me to not release the game? lol
This is $1300 AUD. More than double the price of the PS5 on release. I was excited for the PRO. I think I’ll stick the the base console for the remainder of its lifecycle.
Be glad that usd is always cheaper. Converted to usd the price for Europe is 890$ just for the console. But no matter what they are smoking some insane stuff at Sony.
A different time. Hardware prices went up, not down, it's a major silicon crisis out there. Whether Sony should've made another console at this time is a whole other matter though
PS4 Pro GPU was over 2x faster than base with a bumped CPU. This is a 45% faster GPU, same CPU, and "AI" upscaling. It's not even fidelity mode at 60fps. It's "near" fidelity mode at 60fps.
Finland: PS5 Pro: 849€ (estimate), our prices are always higher than "EU" PlayStation products Disk drive: 140€ (Just checked, 140€ for Slim model) Stand: 32€ (Just checked, 32€ Slim stand) Astro Bot: Actually 55€ cheapest here (why are you including this?) Add your 80€ for PS+ Essential, could be more here, dunno 1157€
Indeed. I was already suprised by such a steep price, I forgot to look if the disc-drive was attached. And then they don't even mention anything about it, but they do about the vertical stand. For that price, the disc-reader and vertical stand should be included.
@Gamma_Draconis The US $ price does not include the tax. So the real comparison is the £ and €. £700 is roughly 830€, so it makes sense. Even though all the prices are insane
The PS5 Pro costing $700 and not featuring a disc drive is bad enough, but the fact that it doesn't even come with a stand for the console is downright insulting.
@Gabex42 I guess that's true. I have an original model PS5 so I haven't really been following the removable drive; it seems like a much better use case than with the PS5 Slim value wise, but that's still an extra cost to an already $700 machine.
Cmon man I still play on PS4 Slim and wait for the PS5 Pro (I am poor). And a big fan of a physical copy of a game.... I don't know what to do now. If I am going to pay 60 bucks for a game I better get a disc with it.
Which has a pc port that has Ray traced shadows that the console version doesn't (granted you need quite a beefy gpu to take full advantage of the enhancement). The people who hyper focus on graphics and performance tend to go to pc. Don't really see how well this will do even compared to the 15% share the ps4 Pro has given there's less of a performance wall with the PS5 than the 4 had
@@cococinnamon2236most people don’t,people need to stop saying this. And a Phone actually has way more practical use than a console,phones are mini computers nowadays
@@KnucklesWTDWhile it’s true that most people do not buy a $1000 phone, it is not true that you need a $1000 phone. A $1000 phone provides hardly any **practical** benefit over a $400 phone
Should have been $600 for what we got, and then $700 with the disc tray and mount + they should have offered a trade in program for existing PS5 owners to help pay for new unit and then Sony could sell discounted refurbished base models to budget conscious gamers.
$700 without a vertical stand or disc drive? That’s absolutely INSANE! Guys, if we don’t buy their product, they’ll get the message loud and clear: we, the consumers, hold the power. We pay, we say! And now they’re ditching the disc drive too? Seriously? I saw this coming with the PS5 Slim and its optional disc drive. The future of PlayStation-and even Xbox-is going all digital. This is pure madness!
@@Gigi-zr6hp Steam has better practices than PlayStation and Xbox. PCs have been digital for many years. Consoles should not become entirely digital, they serve a specific purpose for discs, and now those are disappearing-DVDs, CDs, and the like.
Time really flies now that I'm an adult. It felt like it took an eternity for the PS4 pro to come out, and it felt like that also lasted for ages. Meanwhile it feels like the PS5 came out just yesterday and it's already getting a pointless upgrade. The thing is ludicrously powerful already, you can't keep jamming so much power into these systems so quickly. Wait until the PS6 THEN make a big graphical leap, AND KEEP THE DISC DRIVE.
its ridiculous, I don't understand why I'm meant to pay an extra $200 just because I live in the UK (not that I would have gotten this pile of garbage anyway)
Uhhhhh.....$700??? That's $300 more than I paid for the PS5 digital 4 years ago. In lieu of price cuts there have been price increases, and now this. It's a slap in the face.
@@shadtowa8986 I won my PS5 in a contest, so it's $700 more than what I paid - so it's a hard no, for me. I also won a Switch OLED in a contest, so I don't need to buy one of those, either. Now that I've burned every last ounce of my luck, I'm afraid to cross the street. Send help.
They will care when it pulls a "Concord" and move very little units. No stand and no disc drive included at that price is a bit ridiculous. That's Nvidia levels of greed.
They just made an expensive totally optional version of the ps5. It's not really the evil conspiracy most ppl are making it out to be. Just don't buy it like 95 percent of ppl were already gonna do. Lol
Because people only complain online. With so many subscriptions and games available digitally with lots and lots and offers, I think I used my disk drive twice since 2020 on my PS5. So I can understand their view. What baffles me is people complaining about a gaming console with computing power similar to PC now being 700 usd while they pay 1200 USD on a phone. 😅
depends on the game. black myth wukong at 60fps on ps5 looks like an impressionistic painting at times, the image quality is that poor. ff16 drops to 720p in its 60fps mode
They didn't want to trash their cash cow the regular PS5 so this presentation was always gonna be tricky ("see how poorly games look on ps5"). They should have have showed something new/not possible on ps5 to avoid that
This would have been the perfect time to announce a bloodborne remaster and they didn’t even take advantage of that 😂🤣 Sony can’t stop taking Ls this generation
$700 with no vertical stand and disc drive is insane.
Where does it say that?
@@OGTripleTriple at the end of the video, "Vertical Stand sold separately"
@@OGTripleTriple vertical stand sold seperatly and on the blog they say disc drive ud have to buy the currently available one i assume the one for slim version
@@OGTripleTriple in the reveal of the model says "Vertical stand sold separately". And there isn't a disc reader on it.
@@OGTripleTriple The photo stated that the vertical stand is sold seperately, while showing a console without a disc drive.
I'm shocked that the controller and the power cord aren't sold separately at this point. Y'all lost your minds
Don't give them ideas now
@@BYLEE1 As in charging for the energy needed to recharge your peripherals? ;)
No, but if you would like the ON button that would be an additional 50
Geez, next they'll be removing the headset port from the controller as well!
Lol next they'll sell you the console in two halves
Bold decision by Sony leaving the comment section enabled after announcing with that price point.
I doubt it will last long! 🤣
comment section finna close with all deez ninjas making themselves heard about that price lol
😂🤣😂
😂😂😂lol
No one said you had to buy it. Keep your normal PS5 if it's within your budget.
So basically we’re getting everything that was promised and not delivered on the OG PS5. For 700$. Thanks Sony.
What did they say here that they said for ps5 but we didn’t get
Minus a disk drive
Minus disc drive
Minus a disk drive
@@gamernation14004k 60fps with ray tracing
It ended so abruptly after the price reveal like they just threw a flashbang in the room and ran lol
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lol
xD
hahaha
😂😂😂😂
700$ without a disk drive is diabolical
I realized that as well
oh yea wow
And vertical stand sold separatelly
Insane
Someone sounds cheap
£700 is downright insanity. No disc drive is a dealbreaker
Even USA is better priced than us in the UK, as £700 GBP equals $914 USD.
@@shyamal903 US prices are without VAT apparently
They are.. @@ChrisHops22
its 1000% a dealbreaker! I'm sick about it!
compra una ps5 normal, si no te alcanza el dinero...
"Remember the promises we made about PS5 in 2019 but never really met them even for $500?
Well now with $200 more, no vertical stand, no disc drive and probably a smaller SSD - cuz GPUs ain't cheap - we are finally going to fulfil our promise of peak graphics fidelity with performance...Definitely,
Maybe."
- Sony 2024
On PS4 games nonetheless
It ships with two terabyte ssd
Hmmmm it’s almost like unregulated capitalism is a bad thing 🧐
800€ in Europe WITHOUT a f*cking disc drive is crazy
So tired of companies trying to sell their customers less for more.
well they will understand after they see below 1m in sales XD
How fps ?
The stand is also not included.
800 euro, stand not included, disk drive not included, and no games to play. Truly the deal of the generation.
"Play has no limits" ❌️
"Price has no limits" ✅️
-Sony
Pay has no limits.
@@AyushArunRao-cb8hr complaining has no limits. Cry more meltdown.
This is going to cost more than $1000 here in NZ lol 😅
So funny!!😂
@@wben7833 Dude honestly I am gonna stay with my ps5 aint no way I am spending 800 euros that too for something in which I run any physical copies.... THIS IS DAYLIGHT ROBBERY
€800 for background detail in a game is insanity😂
Could you even see a noticeable difference? I couldnt
Not even with a disc drive
I don't pay 800 euro plus an additional disc drive for 60 FPS or a few more graphic details
I could but it's not even that big 💀 @@mikebaker9936
wait until they take away the performance modes on ps5
It hasn't even been 4 years, and they announce the pro model when PS5 games are STILL being ported to PS4 ? Sony has forgotten every lesson they learned from the PS3, and are back at square one
800 euros for a ps5 pro without disc drive is honestly crazy
so 920euros with the drive, we're not far from gaming pc prices 😅
Seems fair to me
And 800€ vs. those $700 are the other joke to me. Yes, our friends in the US always have better prices than us in Europe. But more than 100€ difference?!
@@TheStenius that's $700 before taxes though so the difference will be smaller
I can buy a new 4070 Super or used one and save some money.
I really love what they are doing with it but I don’t know if I can justify it. It is too expensive in Europe.
That's too generous,
should've sold the controller separately too.
And the buttons too. You would have to build your own controller to play
Lool
No point to buy Ps5 pro. Because 2026/2027 PS6 is coming so why we buy ps5 pro
Don't stress power cable is a mere 100$
@@RandiRoman-e2m it's for people without one and ps6 not coming til 2027 at earliest
800 EURO and NO disk drive is insanity after insanity! 💀
800€ mit Laufwerk!
Too right. People need to realise 800 euro is 890 dollars lol
700
You can add a disk
@@KarateTiger2011 nein ist ohne Laufwerk und ohne Standfuß für 799,99€
800+ EUR? No disk drive, no stand? I would've gladly paid 600 EUR for a 1tb version with a disk drive, but your offer is ridiculous. You better hope PS5 Pro won't repeat Concord's fate.
I have used my disc drive zero times so far.
They wanted to make it 1000€, but figured "well, maybe customers won't pay that for a console, but they might buy for 800 and pay 200 extra on a later date..."
PS5 Pro
-No disk drive
-No vertical stand
-No bank account after purchase (expensive af)
thats a crime.
@@cavalryofawakening This is a lo$$ for the players
No games
If U don't have a ps5 buy the slim then
@@Giggi2222
No games?!
If you say that you miss the point.
There are no games for the Series X either. Just games for XBox Series X/S.
Imagine the outrage from PS5 owners if a game only runs on PS5 Pro.
Were there any PS4 Pro games?!
It's a hardware upgrade. It means it plays games better.
@@aaronmail8836not the point of his comment bud
Sony tryna make us pay for Concord development 😂😂
🤣they will😅🤣somehow anyway
We already did.
This is to pay for Concord 2.
golden
Top!
Indeed
$700 with no stand or disc drive this late in the PS5 life cycle?! Wild af.
This cycle is staying around for a long time
just get a gaming pc, ps is trash
@@kitezzz360it would cost more for a pc to run what a ps5 runs
And most importantly, no games! There’s just nothing “Only on PlayStation” coming up besides Wolverine, which we know is temporary, just as GTA 6.
In EU we would need to pay 920 EUR for a ps5 with disc drive, that is 1012 USD.....
Ya'll remember when PC was less affordable than console play?
The difference is growing slimmer and slimmer for less advantages.
For all intents and purposes, consoles have basically become mini PCs... You're just locked into a very restrictive ecosystem. Now if I could install windows on this, or even Linux for those so inclined, then I could bring my vast Steam collection over. Would definitely be worth $700 to those just trying to get into the PC gaming scene.
@@SharpWits2013even more restrictive now they're killing off the disc drive. I'm honestly glad I never bought a ps5 for the maybe 3 games I'm interested in
@@AVdE10000swear I only played Spider-Man 2 and left it there as a collection console didn’t touch it afterwards 😂
800€ without disc drive. Ridiculous. I think they're crazy.
You buy whole $2-3k pc and that don't have any physical drives.
insane
thats 882$ converted btw almost 900$ for europeans ( ･o･ )
@@evilformerlys4704there is like millions way to buy pc games for cheap. The ps games are comparatively more expensive, even digital ones.
@@evilformerlys4704 😂😂 3k pc with no HDD, u are very ridiculous man.
£700 with no disc drive? You can f*ck off at that price.
This is what happens when you get high on your own supply.
I bet they sell the disc drive separately yikes😬
Well said.
will be saparate
Even if it was $200 I wouldn't buy if it doesn't have a disc drive (I only buy physical games). Get tf outta here
Back in 2016 PS4 Pro open price was only 399$ and sold completely. Then now they sell PS5 Pro for 700$ with no disc drive and vertical stand, it's ridiculous 😂😂😂
To be fair I honestly felt a little grifted by the ps4 pro. Would've paid a little extra to get more than some games near 4k and a few 45 fps performance modes.
In part is called inflation, maybe 599 would be more fair
Different time period and inflation happened. Sometimes I feel like I became an adult in the wrong time period...
@@XxNoe619xXnah man it’s called being greedy
@@funkrobot9762 Yes, government are being greedy and printing a lot of money, so it devaluates.
399 USD in 2016 would be the equivalent to today as 522,91 USD. It is still bellow 700 USD, tho.
How is 700$=800€??? This is just insanity. 800€ for a console without a basic stand, not to mention the lack of optical drive. For what??? Are you nuts?
800€ is already including ~130€ tax (19% in Germany for example)
So 670€=738 USD
"Vertical stand sold separately"
Those mf
😂 “those mf”
Yep Filthy
is it bad to keep ps vertical without a stand? I've been keeping mine like this for years
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Doesnt matter
Only falls over faster if you touching@@Queuny
Sony: Stand is sold separately
Apple: I am so proud of you
I laughed pretty hard at your joke. Thank you and well done 😉
Sir, I am not paying $700 for that. I feel like a kid that was excited about something, and now that excitement is like a balloon that kissed a powerline.
I’m not sure what you were expecting. It’s not a next gen console. It’s an upgrade
Get a job
Eh a 4070 ti is 750$ seems like a fair price to me.
@@jelaninoelmight be an upgrade, not a $700 upgrade, of course thats subjective and my own opinion, but be real.
@@jelaninoelan upgrade without an included disk drive and stand, wow
800$ with no disc is crazy. what are they thinking?
Sony: "You mfks r gonna pay for Concord one way or the other"
They just gonna end up losing more money in the long run if they keeping doing bs and taking their fans for granted
😂😂😂
Loool
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"No we aint, only way you gonna make up losses is a new uncharted or infamous"
If people in the US are complaining that the thing costs 700 bucks, the 800€ that it costs in Europe is extremely unreasonable.
$ is without tax
@@FZ4306 😂 ohh man...
Imagine the $20,000 it's going to cost in Mexico
@@joselondonowith tax it's 740-770 USD but some states in the US don't have sales tax so you can still get it for 700 USD....
@@jeffn1215Euro is worth more. So it is maybe like 900 dollars
“For the Payers”
XD
"Pay has no limits"
🤣
lol
😂
The fact that this could potentially be $1,200 where I live is just borderline atrocious
You can buy mid range pc for this or something like rtx 4080 super for your pc upgrade.
You have absolutely lost it. SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS for this? No disc drive, no stand, and even worse, ALMOST NO PS5 EXCLUSIVES? OK, there are lots of exclusive Playstation games, but most of them are actually for the PS4… why would I even bother? I’ll be keeping my vanilla PS5 for a loooooong time, thank you very much.
@@renatoaccioly PS4 PRO is the best deal at this point
Sorry, definitely not worthy of such an absurd entrance fee. I’ll stick to my original “fat” PS5… Wake me up when the PS6 is available.
As long as games still come out on the ps4, I'm good@@BreakingStreams
I'm torn because I never got a vanilla PS5. I wasn't going to fight scalpers for one, or pay scalpers nearly $1k for it. And it took time for the current-gen library to build up. Then by the time they were readily available, the release of the Pro seemed around the corner. I'd have been okay with $600 without accessories, but $700 is harsh. Especially since that's currently a lot for me. I'll have to decide if I want to wait for a sale... or hope I have enough credit card points to cover most of the cost.
We don't want slightly clearer and shinier graphics. We want more games with better gameplay.
Shut up and take concord! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And fewer pronouns 😂
This
@@KhupaRORespect goes to you
Thisss 🎉
800€ in Europe…..
700$ to eur €635
800€ to dollars 883$
This is absolutely insane …
Like always, US prices don't include sales tax and the prices in Europe do. Add 19% for the German market for example to those 635€, you end up with 755€.
US prices pretty much never include taxes because they differ from state to state. The final price that US folks will pay is going to be closer to (or even higher than) 800$
That's nothing, the prices of that thing in Latinoamerica are gonna be absolutely INSANE!!!
AND WITHOUT A DISK DRIVE!! IMAGINE IN A BUNDLE, 1K NO SPIT... BAM
I'm a playstation fan and I don't complain as much as some internet types but the price is a bit too high for definite. Don't know what they was even thinking because they should know consumers hate when you raise price and take away features. Removing the disc drive was such a dumb move.
I was considering PS5 pro (was on the fence anyway) but I'll just wait for PS6 at this rate. I really hope they've not delayed PS6 too long for this overpriced thing haha. The weird thing is the PS5 was released 4 years ago so a GPU upgrade shouldn't really cost that much difference because performance would be better by now anyway with newer tech. They said 45% faster rendering while charging over 50% more price even though it's 4 years down the line and they're taking away the disc drive.
You got 5 games in your ps5 library and all you care now is specs
$699.99 is a Concord level fail
You’re Better off waiting for the PS6
@fabianramirez7807 That's what I'm saying. It's literally gonna be here in max 4 years. £700 is sort of understandable if this was the next gen console which will be new for like 8 years. The fact this is just a mid-gen release to kill time for the ps6 and they charge that...
I can see them rebranding the PS5 Pro as the PS6 and drop the price a bit.
That'll be even more expensive.
why wait? just buy the slim version lol
Still better than what I have in the UK, which is £700 GBP (£700 GBP equals $914 USD).
800€ NO DISC DRIVE & NO STAND?!
My PS5 with a disc drive and stand was 500€ at launch💀
If you convert to $ is 882$ hahaha (almost 200$ more than in USA). What a joke!!
Power cable not included 😂😂😂 Just joking but youll never know whats next 😂😂😂🤔
They wanna kill off physical games, im scared of the future.
@@alvissstar4371 iPhone 16 Pro is 999$ but 1.199€. That’s 1.300$ 💀
@@alvissstar4371tax is added after in the US..
Forget PS5 pro, save 800 euros until PS6 comes out
100% I coped just fine without the PS4 Pro and I'll cope equally fine with my day one disc drive PS5. Honestly people are way to OCD about frame rates and tiny difference in graphical fidelity these days.
knowing sony,ps6 will be higher than that
Thats in 5 years
@@Jason-..- 3 and a half
@thegael791 had a day one ps4, which is now retired, and bought a ps4 pro and put a SSD into it. Has lasted me for 4 years of the ps5 life cycle. And still not upgraded.
Did the Master of Disguise just try to sell me a box with no disc drive for $700?
This video did an excellent job at convincing me to stick with my standard PS5.
Facts
And buy the "Mario" next gen. XD
Amen
Absolute
im only getting the ps5 pro once gta 6 drops, other than that im not getting it till then😂
800 Euros for the PS5 pro is crazy!
Selling my normal ps5 for 400€ so the pro is basically worth 400€ because of that.. i see no problem for me, the only problem will be people who never had a ps5 and want the pro immediately
Just buy a pc bruh
And that's plus what the add-on disk drive will cost!!!
Atleas it comes with a stand.... oh wait😮
円安の日本人からしたら最悪だよその1.5倍払うんだから😢
"Play has no limits.. except being able to use a disc you already own"
"Pay has no limits"
@@mickeman3967🤣🤣🤡 “Pay has no limits” 😂😂 exactly what they wanted to say 😂
I was hoping with PS3 emulation rumours that it would have a disc drive and he'd be all like "It plays every PlayStation game ever made!", would have made the price easier to justify, but nope.
No 120 fps on all games lol stick to my ps5 and pc 😂
@@talibong9518 Yeah I don't want to be that guy, but it looks like Microsoft is still the only one supporting back compat to the extend of allowing old disc's in the new console.
I really hope they keep that for the next Xbox.
$700 and STILL can't do full 4K 60, or even ANYTHING above 30 without doing upscaling? That's insane. Despite all these improvements my PC dwarfs the PS5 Pro's capability.
To be fair even high end PC’s need upscaling for 4K 60 fps unless you want to spend $1000+ on a graphics card alone
@@NDwhITeBoYZthen it’s technically not a high end if it can’t do 4k 60fps-120fps
what PC are you building for $700 that can do 4k 60?
if you’re dissatisfied VOICE IT, you as a consumer have so much power. you changed the sonic movie, changed ps plus games multiple times, changed starbucks revenue. VOICE IT!!
Oh…it’s gonna happen… Check out these comments. Haha… I’ve been searching for ONE positive comment and can’t find one. This is a DOA release unless they do something to calm the fury.
If you are dissatisfied, just don't buy it. Vote with your wallets, not your voice.
yeah but that sonic movie probaly just was a marketing stunt
@@gurnoorsekhon6402 Most effective is to do both. Don't buy it, and use your voice to make it clear why you didn't.
The voice is to not buy. It worked with Concord, it can work here too.
“Vertical stand sold separately”, my brother in Christ you are charging 700 US dollars, I think you can afford to include a circular piece of plastic with the console.
it will be a pro solid steel stand for 149$
and dont forget the missing disc drive
Just buy a third party stand. I know I will.
PERIOD.
@@night_fiend6 You're already wrong buying this "console". And don't come with the slave bugmen mentality of "You don't need to buy if you don't want". This kind of "thinking" is the reason why everything is turning to cr4p.
Y'all really messed up big time. We're not buying that for 700 and then paying 100 separately for a disc drive. Pure greed.
120
Braa sony is buggin 700 for dis and no disc 😭
Facts mrbober
the problem is, people will....
Speak for yourself. I'm buying it 😂 .. I'm not really bothered about the price, I just want the best experience possible for console.
Wait its being 4years already, im still playing my PS4 🎮 and enjoying it, the PS5 is expensive, now the pro is even more expensive.
300 bucks more, minus a disk drive or a stand is absolute madness, there's absolutely no way that you couldn't make it €600 digital or €650 with disc drive
£700 and no disk drive is genuinely going to kill this pro console. its honestly mind blowing.
Doesn't it have an attachable one? I figure this is more for people who haven't already bought PS5 but won't wait for PS6. Or people who just have so much money it doesn't matter to them.
Also why are we paying more than mainland Europe smh
@@titularheroHate it when they lock the price across currencies 😭 some government body has to do something about it...I swear it could be cheaper to buy it in Europe then ship it to to the UK if your British
It's not going to kill anything, it will be sold out in a day
@@universe1225 I feel like the people who don't have a ps5 at this point don't want one? Everyone else is probably just waiting for the switch 2.
I dont even think the scalpers are gonna jump on this one 😂
It's not 2020 anymore, there will be no scalpers
That's probably the point.
@@wesleyjohnson7859Holy cow, what a rip off.
in order for scalpers to jump in there would have to be a demand for the product.... I am predicting that the ps5 pro will be stuck on the store shelves until it goes down in price to 500$
😂😂😂 facts
I miss the “299” era 😢
800 euros in Europe, with no disc drive and vertical stand... They're basically asking us to pay 1000$ for PS5 Pro in Europe. Sony has completely lost their mind.
It‘s a PC now. 😉
@@bluluke lol sure. one that can't do 1/100th what a real PC can
$700 without disk drive and vertical stand? For what? There were less than 10 games that truly used the power of PS5 in these 4 years, and now I should buy something this expensive just for better fps? This is insane
Could you mention the ones that push it to the most?
Man! imagine you buy it and next two year they introduce Ps6 with 0nly 499😂
I only know Wukong. This game makes my PS5 laggy af.@@abstractwars
@@abstractwarsthe matrix demo immortals from ea avatar frontier of Pandora but none of those games push it to the max those games where just poorly optimize
@@abstractwarsReturnal, GoW + those shown in the video
- $700
- No new games
- Pay extra for disc drive
- Pay extra for a stand
- Limited amount of pro-enhanced games
Thanks but I'll pass.
- very minor visual upgrade
Dont forget
-No increase in SSD space
That's why there was no big announcement, this is for enthusiasts to buy, not your mainstream buyer.
Those who understand BOM costs and current tech trends, find 700 a great price for such hardware when you factor in what's inside and form factor.
Limited lifespan with soldered ssd
@@rikachiuexactly spot on
Am I the only one getting PS3 flashbacks from this? The PS3 when announced didn't feature any massive new game announcements and most of the talk was about a higher fidelity rather than new features. Then they reveal the price and you're hit with a "That much for a console? How? Why!?" reaction.
At least the PS3 was a whole new console generation, the PS5 Pro doesn't have that excuse. The price was so insane at the launch of the PS3 that they had to lower the price significantly and sell it at a loss for years, feels like this might be the case for the Pro which is sad. Instead of this being an incentive to get the PS5 for those people who haven't gotten one yet, it's just another reason to wait even longer for price drops.
Also, why tf does it cost a 100 euro more than pounds and USD?! Ok, fair the pound is worth more than the euro, but not that much more. Not to mention that USD is worth LESS than Euros. As of writing this comment it's 182$ more expensive in countries that uses Euro! I'm Norwegian and it's rumored to cost 9000 NOK here which is 130$ more...
Planned on getting one to experience GTA6 sooner, but now I'll gladly wait a year or more to play it on PC. They've already lost my sale. Haven't owned a console since PS2, now I'm not going to bother with a PS5 of any sort either lol.
Hey guess what? You don't have to buy this. The PS5 Pro isn't going to replace the base PS5. You can still get a base PS5 instead of the Pro. They're not forcing you to buy this. With the PS3 the price was pretty much forced onto its consumers.
@@TheSoxor123 Would rather blow the $500 for base or $700 for pro on steam if I'm being honest... I'd get far more mileage that way than PS5's current slim ecosystem.
Not gonna pay 800€ for a mid-cycle console upgrade that hasnt even a disc-drive
and on top he said "TARGETING 60fps" not even GUARANTEED.
i'm a sony fanboy but THAT is NOT enough.
@@IH8YH they can never guarantee what devs do in their games though. If I make a game and I choose to use graphical technology that's way beyond the capabilities of the PS5 Pro and therefore only get 30fps on it, what are they gonna do? Tell me to not release the game? lol
Same controller too@@IH8YH
No one is making you...
@@Sicho84You can on PC. It's hilarious that 60fps isn't even a standard with a mid-gen refresh.
"No more choosing between fedelity or performance" is the same EXACT thing you said about the PS5.
Tell EM!!!
they will always be chasing that 60fps like a mouse on a wheel.
Fax
But the PS5 should have 8K already, it say so right on the box. Does Sony lie, No say it's not so
They did?
$700 and the disc drive, you're paying almost $800 to get the full console
Still better than what I have in the UK, which is £700 GBP (£700 GBP equals $914 USD).
800EU is 881.99 USD, big fail in europe
@@hasiktak1544 Even worse in the UK, which is still in Europe bust uses its own currency.
More than $800 once you include the stand.
Don't forget about the taxes...
This is $1300 AUD. More than double the price of the PS5 on release. I was excited for the PRO. I think I’ll stick the the base console for the remainder of its lifecycle.
$699 Console + $79 Disc Drive + $30 Vertical Stand + Taxes ??? Like $870 to play older games with a bit more frames per second ??? NO THANKS !!!!
970€ in europe
Be glad that usd is always cheaper. Converted to usd the price for Europe is 890$ just for the console.
But no matter what they are smoking some insane stuff at Sony.
Over $1000 in Australia
you can buy a very nice PC for that price tbh and it will probably run most games at higher FPS too
@@whatnamedoiuse1481 price in Europe includes taxes usually though (and VAT is higher in most european countries) price in the US is without VAT
-$700 for a ps5 without disk drive
-with cheese Mr. Squidward!, with cheese!
Bro you win 💀🏆
😂
I havent played a disc game since early PS4 days, digital is the future whether we like it or not. But I would miss my 4K blu rays.. :/
😅👍
Yeah but.... We don't even get cheese with this 😭
Year 2029: PS6 $1500 (Power Cord sold separately)
Loool
😂😂😂😂
sounds about right .. hopefully it's worth it
And no disk drive either.
I wouldn't be surprised 😂
Question, sooooo the 4K/120 logo on the OG PS5 is just consumer fraud then?
Are you kidding me? F*cking 800€ without disc drive? Thats completly ridiculous.
$700 is wild for nothing more than you can run fidelity mode at 60fps. The PS4 Pro launch price was $399. Let that sink in.
Facts pretty much just 4k 60
@@angel_4642 it's not though. It's upscaled 4k and "targeting" 60 fps
A different time. Hardware prices went up, not down, it's a major silicon crisis out there. Whether Sony should've made another console at this time is a whole other matter though
PS4 Pro GPU was over 2x faster than base with a bumped CPU. This is a 45% faster GPU, same CPU, and "AI" upscaling. It's not even fidelity mode at 60fps. It's "near" fidelity mode at 60fps.
4:35 "almost" 😄
PS5 pro - 800€
Disk Drive - 80€
PS5 Pro stand - 20€
Astro Bot - 70€
PS+ Essential 12 months - 80€
1050€
Maybe you need another controller, a better/longer HDMI cable etc.... Sony - For The Payers!
Finland:
PS5 Pro: 849€ (estimate), our prices are always higher than "EU" PlayStation products
Disk drive: 140€ (Just checked, 140€ for Slim model)
Stand: 32€ (Just checked, 32€ Slim stand)
Astro Bot: Actually 55€ cheapest here (why are you including this?)
Add your 80€ for PS+ Essential, could be more here, dunno
1157€
Le lecteur de disque est a 120€ et le pied est a 30€ ...
🤯🤯🤯
Plus a new controller every 4-6 month after stick drift kicks in
Looks like a fair price for Lenovo Legion Gameing laptop with free multiplier and "potential free" games.
I wonder what Sony's expectations for this are? Surely they knew this pricepoint would be shocking.
Asking 800 Euros without a disk drive is just diabolical
Indeed. I was already suprised by such a steep price, I forgot to look if the disc-drive was attached. And then they don't even mention anything about it, but they do about the vertical stand. For that price, the disc-reader and vertical stand should be included.
Why 700 $ + £ and 800 €?
Copy pastying other people’s comments is diabolical
@Gamma_Draconis The US $ price does not include the tax. So the real comparison is the £ and €.
£700 is roughly 830€, so it makes sense. Even though all the prices are insane
@@shirtsgames5736 In Russia it will cost less due to sanctions, verified
700$ for Aloy's hair to look nicer is the new "Apple" for this industry.
And Aloy is so dislikable.
@@ItsShaggy3 inc3l detected
@@ItsShaggy3 who told you that lil buddy?
AI can’t fix that hair animation. The peach fuzz looks sharper now tho.
@@ItsShaggy3 how?
The PS5 Pro costing $700 and not featuring a disc drive is bad enough, but the fact that it doesn't even come with a stand for the console is downright insulting.
at least it comes with the controller xD
At least it comes with a console XD
at least it uses the same drive of the slim and not one new, still a bit scummy for the stand
@@WAGAKO19 That's the spirit, there is always something positive😂
@Gabex42 I guess that's true. I have an original model PS5 so I haven't really been following the removable drive; it seems like a much better use case than with the PS5 Slim value wise, but that's still an extra cost to an already $700 machine.
$700 for a mid gen upgrade that targets 60fps!?
What is ps6 gonna be $1000?
“LOOK AT ME, IM THE SCALPER NOW”
-Sony Entertainment
LOL
💯
🎯
HOLY KEK!
_Me BEFORE watching this video: "I'm fine wit my PS5, I'll jus get the 6."_
_Me AFTER watching this video: "I'm fine wit my PS5, I'll jus get the 6."_
I had same thought process
Based king
Spend the money on an English tutor, you clearly need one.
Cmon man I still play on PS4 Slim and wait for the PS5 Pro (I am poor). And a big fan of a physical copy of a game.... I don't know what to do now. If I am going to pay 60 bucks for a game I better get a disc with it.
PS5 Remaster
700$ for Ratchet and Clank to look nicer is maniacal
haha nice one dude
@@kevindiaz891 800€ is even more crazy 💀
Which has a pc port that has Ray traced shadows that the console version doesn't (granted you need quite a beefy gpu to take full advantage of the enhancement). The people who hyper focus on graphics and performance tend to go to pc.
Don't really see how well this will do even compared to the 15% share the ps4 Pro has given there's less of a performance wall with the PS5 than the 4 had
i swear 🤣
@@jeveritt8398 Spot on!
Uk people being charged almost 1k USD is crazy
8:44 - _"Wow! What a value!"_ said no one. Ever.
Come you guys you’ll pay $1,000 cell Phone don’t tell you can’t afford it lol 😆
@@cococinnamon2236most people don’t,people need to stop saying this.
And a Phone actually has way more practical use than a console,phones are mini computers nowadays
@@KnucklesWTDWhile it’s true that most people do not buy a $1000 phone, it is not true that you need a $1000 phone. A $1000 phone provides hardly any **practical** benefit over a $400 phone
@cococinnamon2236 most of these 1k phones are cheaper with a plan
Anyone who spends 1000$ on a phone or a console is out of their mind!
That $700 is going straight to a PC Build
But pc still got no disk drive
@@niyoh6606a PC disk drive is about $20, you can very easily squeeze that into the budget
@@niyoh6606but you have endless amount of games on the high seas and modding
@@xikpartexactly bro ! But they don’t know about that lol
@@niyoh6606what😂😂 it doesn’t matter, you can play anything you want on the PC
800€ here in EU for a console? That´s a world record and it will fail miserably in sales
Yeah sure wiseguy 😂 and it will cost 700€ by the way.
Initial ps3 price level flop
@@lexxro87No
Thats pretty bad, considering the average salary in the EU is far lower than in the US
@@lexxro87 799.99€
I can't wait to play my four games with 18 more pixels
Ps4 >>> ps4 pro all over again. Higher resolution same framerate bcs of cpu.
I was expecting a U$600 price tag for the PS6. Instead, we get U$700 for a "pro" PS5 console with no disk drive or a vertical stand.
PS3 started at $700 Lol I'm not supporting the price, but crazy to think right?
@Bamfony0 *600
Should have been $600 for what we got, and then $700 with the disc tray and mount + they should have offered a trade in program for existing PS5 owners to help pay for new unit and then Sony could sell discounted refurbished base models to budget conscious gamers.
PS6 will be $700*
*Controller not included, power adapter, disc drive, vertical stand, horizontal stand sold separately
@@no1nozz =O Well my friend's dad must've been ripped off because he forked over $700 for that bad boy Lol
After that price point I heard my ps5 start singing “mf the big 3, it’s just big me”
Okay for some reason your comment made me smile.
no
@@TheBoochi-j7bme too🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
$700 without a vertical stand or disc drive? That’s absolutely INSANE!
Guys, if we don’t buy their product, they’ll get the message loud and clear:
we, the consumers, hold the power. We pay, we say!
And now they’re ditching the disc drive too? Seriously?
I saw this coming with the PS5 Slim and its optional disc drive.
The future of PlayStation-and even Xbox-is going all digital.
This is pure madness!
I hate all digital
Too late. PC players embrace it with Steam.
I’ll get a couple of them
@@Gigi-zr6hp Steam has better practices than PlayStation and Xbox. PCs have been digital for many years.
Consoles should not become entirely digital, they serve a specific purpose for discs, and now those are disappearing-DVDs, CDs, and the like.
Yup, sadly most gamers have the spine of a jellyfish and will buy it anyways.
Time really flies now that I'm an adult. It felt like it took an eternity for the PS4 pro to come out, and it felt like that also lasted for ages. Meanwhile it feels like the PS5 came out just yesterday and it's already getting a pointless upgrade. The thing is ludicrously powerful already, you can't keep jamming so much power into these systems so quickly. Wait until the PS6 THEN make a big graphical leap, AND KEEP THE DISC DRIVE.
$700 for no disc drive and you couldn't bother to include a vertical stand. This is just sad.
Still better than what I have in the UK, which is £700 GBP (£700 GBP equals $914 USD).
Should of had the stand
700 dollars is bad enough but 700 pounds?!?!?! THAT'S THE EQUIVILANT OF 900 DOLLARS ARE YOU MAD????
Same with Euro. $700 is not €700…..
its ridiculous, I don't understand why I'm meant to pay an extra $200 just because I live in the UK (not that I would have gotten this pile of garbage anyway)
@@jackpepper4432 Tax isn't added to the USD price
Cheaper than an iPhone every year
@@jackpepper4432 Its yours and ur countrys fault
i thought 60fps was the goal of the original PS5..
I thought it was 120.
120 mate.. been 60 for two gens now. Even xbox. This is madness.. why mid gen? Wait do proper next gen actually allow devs to hit 120fps like pc!!!
Nah, it could do 8K.
Right? It could do 8K? Guys? Hello?
@LutherDePapier that was xbox series s and x and those systems can keep up at 60fs.
They lied
>every single game they showed was a ps4 game
ONE GAME
I DON'T KNOW WHY
I BOUGHT A PS5 WITH NO GAMES TO BUY
NEVER REMOVE THE DISK DRIVE. THAT IS THE KISS OF DEATH FOR HOME VIDEO GAME CONSOLES.
True. If the next gen doesn’t have a disc drive, the. I’m not buying. Plenty of backlog games to last a lifetime. Or just switch to PC at that point.
@@burtun1760or buy an Xbox bc has better performance than ps5 and it's powerful as the ps5 pro
Facts
@@burtun1760Supa facts
Bruh, you guys are the minority... They see PC, and they want that.
Uhhhhh.....$700??? That's $300 more than I paid for the PS5 digital 4 years ago. In lieu of price cuts there have been price increases, and now this. It's a slap in the face.
And 200 more than mine w/ disc. I might as well just buy a switch
For that price, you could literally buy two switch OLEDs@@shadtowa8986
@@shadtowa8986 I won my PS5 in a contest, so it's $700 more than what I paid - so it's a hard no, for me.
I also won a Switch OLED in a contest, so I don't need to buy one of those, either.
Now that I've burned every last ounce of my luck, I'm afraid to cross the street. Send help.
$700 plus tax without no disc drive to start off with is hella embarrassing for a "pro" gaming console
The worst part for me is that they don't care about our feedback at all.
They will care when it pulls a "Concord" and move very little units. No stand and no disc drive included at that price is a bit ridiculous. That's Nvidia levels of greed.
They just made an expensive totally optional version of the ps5. It's not really the evil conspiracy most ppl are making it out to be. Just don't buy it like 95 percent of ppl were already gonna do. Lol
Feedback isn't going to change the manufacturing costs though.
@@lukebrasting5108 Then maybe they just shouldn't have made it to begin with. 🤷♀
Vote with your wallet. The disc drive will be on the PS6 when they see this garbage isn't selling.
Nice to see Dana Carvey still coming up with new characters.
This "Mark Cerny" persona is really something.
The fact $700 with no disk drive was unquestioned at the meeting is insane lol
Because people only complain online. With so many subscriptions and games available digitally with lots and lots and offers, I think I used my disk drive twice since 2020 on my PS5. So I can understand their view.
What baffles me is people complaining about a gaming console with computing power similar to PC now being 700 usd while they pay 1200 USD on a phone. 😅
They've got the research dude, the analytics digital is the future
Probably because Xbox isn't releasing any enhanced console so it has no competition and they are about to charge $600 for a 2tb SX
$950 Canadian for this without a disc-drive is insanity. No thanks, I’m still getting a lot of value out of my PS4.
Blame Turdeau for that exchange rate.
Why wouldn’t you just buy a used 300$ PS5? Insane
ps4 🤣🤣🤣 just get the slim bro on its last wheels
@@kraenk12some people just don’t want to. If he’s getting angering value out of it I say keep using it
800 Euros for some detail in the background you won't even notice.
Only the most techno FOMO nerds and Digital Foundry eat this stuff up. Pass. I have a 5 Slim already and don't need this ^_^
depends on the game. black myth wukong at 60fps on ps5 looks like an impressionistic painting at times, the image quality is that poor. ff16 drops to 720p in its 60fps mode
They didn't want to trash their cash cow the regular PS5 so this presentation was always gonna be tricky ("see how poorly games look on ps5"). They should have have showed something new/not possible on ps5 to avoid that
Gotta really ask yourself if seeing a few extra hairs on Kratos' beard is worth $700
@@alkenstein not showing off GTA 6 on Pro is diabolical. That is the one game that would have pushed pre-orders through the roof.
Even with disc and stand 700 would be too much. But WITHOUT? That’s literally insane
I was waiting for Mark to be like “……in fact, I’m not even here. This is a digital model of me being rendered in real time on the PS5 Pro.”
Got to feel sad for him. He designs a beast of a machine but then the directors go, let's price gouge these MFs
@@Loundsify This isnt even a beast its a dated machine trying to catch up on promises made 4 YEARS AGO
😂
@@devonjames7999 price to performance it's still unmatched.
No disc drive, no vertical stand (even though they advertise it vertically) for 699, I guess this is the 'PRO' experience. Well done Sony, well done.
The console isnt even designed to be put on the site, which makes it even crazier
They're getting cocky again like in the PS3 days when they thought they could sell a box for $599 USD with no games.
Showcasing games from 4 years ago is crazy tbh. I’ve been done beating all these games.
What's the point of having capable hardware and no games
This would have been the perfect time to announce a bloodborne remaster and they didn’t even take advantage of that 😂🤣 Sony can’t stop taking Ls this generation
@@TigerSuit24On the contrary, they removed an L.
From their latest taglines.
Pay Has No Limits
For the Payers
This Mark Cerny fellow looks a heck of lot like a MetaHuman voiced by Ryan Reynolds.