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I love when people make new things and you good sir are making a great new things

i am in love with this!!! Now in the crazy idea to become a part time game dev. the rest of time, spend in learnig all needed for ai agent models in real life situations, low/medium income households. my dream is to make an educational like game with ai agents being ´tutor´ along with a simulation of the subject. i really love this game,gave me the boost to try this dream path!

Man, 2d pixelart characters in 3d environments are so weird and ugly.... The 3d looks good, why not make the characters 3d too?

The scenery and leveldesigne lack some art direction. They looks a bit dissassociated with each other

this is a bit off topic but is there a reason why your player character is wearing so little clothes?

those wood beams have way to much vertices from the outpost you show you need to optimize models not just how models are loaded.

What do you need 80 gigs of ram for?? :0

comon lets team up. i will decimate your high poly models and i bet they will not look that much diffrent than before.

i cant wait to play this some day. it looks so awesome!

I know the simplest way to optimize your game: switch to Unity.

Great video. I have one critic for you, the character looks out of place in this environment, it looks like you've placed Link in Skyrim, maybe less details in env textures would fix that

Interesting. Your geometry looks rather simple, so i wonder what does it look like in overdraw-viewmode? And one more: are the shaders used for grass & trees alpha-cutoff or alpha-blending and do they correctly render in the opaque pass with reading and writing to depth buffer?

She looks hot even in pixelated form

you have such a pretty project. im always jealous when seeing it.

Really enjoying this devlog series. Those log fences at 3:44 are probably not helping performance I think this game would benefit from leaning into a lower poly style. One thing that also stood out to me is the foliage on your trees. There's a lot of transparent pixels and presumably a lot of overdraw happening there. I feel like the leaves are possibly too high resolution and or at least that there's too much space between them in the texture which makes them look very noisy in motion. Also this is a matter of taste but I think the depth of field effect isn't helping performance and looks kind of intense. it could be worth trying to just have fog and no blur or at least turning down the intensity a little so distant objects aren't completely indecipherable. I really love what you're making here though and I hope you can find a good balance of graphical performance without having to spend too much time optimising.

2:22 Fed to the rules and I hit the ground running Didn't make sense not to live for fun Your brain gets smart, but your head gets dumb So much to do, so much to see So what's wrong with taking the back streets? You'll never know if you don't go You'll never shine if you don't glow

This video has valuable information, thank you for sharing, it's very much appreciated. Your game looks fantastic and I look forward to seeing how you change your game world for better performance.

3:40 looking at those meshes you HAVE TO loose atleast 90% of polygons on those log meshes. 😮

My understanding of MultiMesh is that it can give you a huge performance boost if you're using it on sets of identical meshes where there are a large number of them visible at once. Any scenario where you have a large number of identical meshes but most of them are being occluded isn't going to benefit since a MultiMesh essentially treats all its instances as one mesh, so that occlusion is now only happening at a much larger scale. A 2m long wall segment made of individual logs would benefit from being a MultiMesh because the individual parts being instanced aren't too large and neither is the combined mesh. Doing it to the entire back wall of a house doesn't present any performance gains because looking at any part of that wall renders the whole wall rather than just whatever bits of it are in view. Things you could use MultiMesh for: rows of books, sections of fencing / railings, trees and other thin objects, floor junk (rocks, debris).

Ok but 80 GB of ram? Which angel did you mug? Otherwise, long awaiting your game! One of my most looked forward to wishlists.

I love it, you are inspiring me to start my own project, thank you.❤

Cool project! I look forward to finishing this video after work!

I had to pause to do a double take at that log fence wireframe at 3:43. I'm sure there's an extra fps or two to be squeezed out of simplifying that particular topology... Jokes aside, great video as usual. Optimization for this kind of huge game world isn't a topic I'm looking forward to tackling if I ever get there. It's always interesting to see how other people are approaching the problem, and I appreciate you showing your stress testing process.

so cool man thanks for sharing

Impostors are another mesh optimization strategy for buildings and giant structures or rocks and such. You will need to decide the lowest possible system you are aiming to run your game, maybe get a separate computer with those specs and each build, see if you are hitting your desired frame rate. I've got 8GB ram with 1050TI GPU and an Intel i7, I can get up to 11 million polygons drawn on screen before seeing Unity drop frames. Can you also be suffering from overdraw? I know people get tripped up with that, when your foliage textures has alot of transparency but the render engine still draws information as if its still there. I've seen people actually increase performance with mesh based foliage for nearby foliage and then batching the far away low res foliage. Looks great so far!

Most drastic thing I've seen are by far your wooden village walls meshes, those are grossly high-poly for how they look Also I highly advise against using any hightmaps/depth maps, they look horrible in godot unless used with tiled stones or something like that, and even then only look good if paralaxed which kills performance really quick Great progress! Keep it up Also check out the latest video from Godot con on rendering, I remember they mentioned something about batch rendering shadows beings a huge performance booster in big open worlds, but I don't know if, when or since when thats been inside the engine already PS did you ever experiment with rendering the game world at a lower resolution to match it more with your character? might be worth a try :)

I wonder if you can force your editor camera to have a different LOD so you can zoom around easier? Like, some kind of @ tool with a if: editor

ffs! the polycount on individual logs of that wooden wall... and then we wonder why Steam is full of unplayable shit these days

You need to upgrade your CPU, Jesus that thing is going to bottleneck your GPU by about 29.9%

Remember that collisions can also get very expensive, so it's important to make sure they are also optimized, preferably just a box, sphere or capsule where it's possible

3:44 bro you need to make those pillar mesh low poly!, that's too much tris! going there. Make a low poly bake those highpoly details as a normal maps. It should look fine as before.

Ah, yes, the journey of testing several alternatives only time revert back to the intial method. But, I agree with the sentiment "the more you know, the more you know."

Around 10:08 there is a flash of white light on the screen, when making my game I had the same graphical issue to varying degrees sometimes the white light would consume the whole screen. Do you know what causes this? Is it just an inherent problem with Godot or is it something we're doing that's causing it?

if it has modules and a command bar like roblox studio, you should make a chunk tool with a selection brush or a snapper like minecraft block selection (this could let you edit datavalues for areas of the map, using perlin noise to generate weather from forecast tables)

you made in godot?😯

upgrade a to 5800x3d would be huge for you

I think a major issue is your mesh topology. Those pillars at 3:45 and the house at 7:20 are way too dense, even for the highest LOD. Every single vertex is between 16 and 48 bytes, with larger meshes being several megabytes total. Since they're rendered as separate meshes, every single one of those pillars sends a few megabytes from your CPU to your GPU on EVERY FRAME. It adds up extremely fast. People fixate way too heavily on rendered objects and batching, but ignore the underlying framerate-limiting property: data throughput. Reduce your mesh complexity by decimating vertices and stripping unnecessary channels like vertex color. I promise you'll get much better results. At the end of the day, the ONLY thing that matters is how many bytes are sent to the GPU.

Always love it when devs are in their optimization arc

You can make the windmill turning lead to other things that might advance the story, idk just a thought

Nice 🍻

I think the mix of art styles is really cool, and it makes the game stand out more! For me it’s a positive! But I’m still not crazy about the design of the main character..

I have some suggestions: You should maybe have it so that when objects load in, they don't instantly pop in. You could make it so that it is like Breath of the Wild where they are loaded at 0% opacity and then fade in quickly. At 2:02 you can see the trees on the left instantly load in. Another suggestion I have is that you could make the lighting a little better inside structures (like in the windmill at 2:20). You should also add some ambient insects like flies, fireflies and butterflies to add to the theming. I hope my suggestions help!

Take a shot every time you hear "MultiMeshInstance3D Nodes"- I love optimization videos like these, so fascinating!

have you considered more pixely textures like valheim? normal maps still look good not even really a suggestion just wondering, it looks good how it is

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It would look even better with 16 directions. 😈

Love this. Seen a lot of people talking about the 2D / 3D being weird, probably because they are not used to seeing it. My opinion, Stylized game world / environment would look great with 2D pixel art. BUT, either way you're doing an amazing job and it looks amazing so far :)

So excited to play this. Keep up the awesome work man :)

3:50 a small tipp, the tutorial should be the last thing you work on with your game that isnt stuff like polish or localization, its way easier than doing at the start because once the game is more or less finished you have a way better understanding of what you need to teach in the tutorial and how to best do that