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Neophyte Boatwrights
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My friend Madison and I (Murphy) are building a traditional wooden boat called the Newfoundland Trap Skiff (NTS). The NTS was designed by Walter J. Simmons of Lincolnshire, Maine. This channel serves as both a journal of the build as well as a thorough presentation of all the information I have gathered and learned throughout the process. The goal is to share what I have had to dig through books and whatever other resources to find out, and thus spare you the trouble.
We also want to underscore the boatbuilding and sailing culture in the US, and so have periodic "cultural" episodes where we interview other builders and people involved in the maritime trades.
We also want to underscore the boatbuilding and sailing culture in the US, and so have periodic "cultural" episodes where we interview other builders and people involved in the maritime trades.
Ep 20 - Paintmaking + Priming
In this episode, I show you how I made the priming paint for the Newfoundland Trap Skiff and get the first two coats on the boat!
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Neophyte Bite! - What are Diagonals?
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In this Neophyte Bite! I go over the diagonal lines from the lines drawing. The diagonals are yet another set of lines used during boat lofting to help refine the shape of the hull. Our Patreon: www.patreon.com/neophyteboatwrights Our facebook: NeophyteBoatwrightspatreon
Neophyte Bite! - Project Update #2 + Shop Tour
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in this Neophyte Bite! I give a quick update on the project and why it has been such a long time since I posted a video. A short shop tour follows for my new workshop space in Virginia. AND, if you stay tuned then there are a couple of surprises in the 2nd half of the video. Our Patreon: www.patreon.com/neophyteboatwrights Our facebook: NeophyteBoatwrightspatreon
Ep 19 - Planking (part 3): Spiling + Fastening
Просмотров 62 тыс.2 года назад
In this third and final installment in the planking series, I discuss the spiling and riveting procedures in detail. Spiling in a scribing technique for determining the shape of the plank, and riveting is a means of fastening the planks together. Then, finally, the planked hull moves with me and my family to Virginia! Our Patreon: www.patreon.com/neophyteboatwrights Our facebook: N...
Ep 17 - Planking (part 1): Garboards + Lining off
Просмотров 27 тыс.2 года назад
In this episode, I give a synopsis of the planking process along with details on how we installed the garboard planks on the Newfoundland Trap Skiff. This is followed by an in-depth discussion on the lining off of the hull which determines where all the planks following the garboards will land. Corrections: when discussing the division process, I erroneously remark that the result would be “irr...
Neophyte Bite! - Project Update
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In this Neophyte Bite! we give a quick update on the planking process for our build of the Newfoundland Trap Skiff and share some teaser footage for the forthcoming comprehensive episode on planking. Massive gratitude to Mark Reuten of Nomad Boatbuilding: ruclips.net/user/MarkReuten Special thanks to the following artists for most graciously letting us use their music for our vids!: The Bailsme...
Neophyte Bite! - The Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum
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In this Neophyte Bite! we visit the Chesapeake Bay Maritime Museum (CBMM) and meet with three of members of the CBMM team: Joe Connor (the lead shipwright), Frank Townsend (colonial-era shipbuilding guru), and Sam Hilgartner (rigger and spar maverick). We talk about their current reconstruction of the colonial-era pinnace the Maryland Dove, trenail fabrication, spar-making, and wooden boatbuild...
Ep 14 - The Transom: Theory & Lofting
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In this episode, we go over the theory behind transom expansion and procedure we used to loft the transom for the Newfoundland Trap Skiff. We discuss the fundamental geometry behind "transom expansion" and relate how to loft the outboard and inboard faces of the transom. Our discussion should be applicable to anyone dealing with a standard "raked transom". Our Patreon: www.patreon.com/neophyteb...
Ep 13 - Boring & Bolting
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Our Patreon- www.patreon.com/neophyteboatwrights In this episode we finally mount the stem and stern assemblies to the keel. we go over bolt layout and lofting, boring, counter-sinking, trimming the keel, and bedding/final mounting. Very special thanks to the musicians who gave us permission to use their music! If you enjoyed any of the songs, consider checking out the bands! : - Un Village Kan...
Ep 12 - Beveling the Stem
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In this episode, we show you how we went about beveling the stem for the Newfoundland Trap Skiff. We discuss transferring the bearding line from the stem template to the physical stem, the theory behind and our approach to determining the rolling bevel on the stem, and how we actually carved the bevel. Special thanks to the following artists for very graciously permitting us to use their music ...
Ep. 7 - Keel Hunting with Duke Besozzi
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Ep. 7 - Keel Hunting with Duke Besozzi
Ep. 6 - Lofting a Sailboat from Stem to Stern (Part 2)
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Ep. 6 - Lofting a Sailboat from Stem to Stern (Part 2)
Ep 3 1/2 - Extended David Reece Interview
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Ep 3 1/2 - Extended David Reece Interview
Episode 4 - Breaking Down The Lines (Boat Plans and Lofting)
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Episode 4 - Breaking Down The Lines (Boat Plans and Lofting)
Episode 1 1/2: Extended Walter J. Simmons Interview
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Episode 1 1/2: Extended Walter J. Simmons Interview
Episode 3 - Bolger & Beyond + A Barge Called Corncake
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Episode 3 - Bolger & Beyond A Barge Called Corncake
Learn to Build a Boat with The Neophyte Boatwrights!
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Learn to Build a Boat with The Neophyte Boatwrights!
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very interesting content !…i’ve been sailing and boating all of my life , and have had several , including a world cruising 42 that i completely refurbished from stem to stern….now at 67, im having the itch to build a sailing boat for lake/coastal day/weekend cruising…simplicity is my goal…your video is very inspiring … btw…you may want to check out the madisonville maritime museum in south louisiana …it’s built in the sleepy little town of madisonville on property that was once jahncke shipyard, a very prominent boatyard that even built ships for the government prior to ww1….they have a boatbuilding school that teaches students how to build the indigenous plywood skiffs of this area…beautiful boats…each student builds their own skiff with the guidance of instructors…if you decide to check it out for yourselves, please let me know …i’d enjoy meeting you. thanks again!
Finally watched!
Great explanation! Makes sense.
What type of glue do you use to join the boards? Thanks
Generally speaking, I am using a two part epoxt - jamestown distributors or west systems - to glue anything related to the boat.
I have questions about which type of epoxy to use. Could you recommend a specific brand? I have learned a lot from your videos. Thank you.
I live in Connecticut and I was pleasantly surprised to see the bridge that I have gone under in my boat many times down in Mystic in this video!
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Brilliant! I,m a bit stupid! I was left behind by your spiling batten marks! When I re-Built an Essex Estuary One design in the 1990s I rivetted with my wife to hammer the cut rivetts. I saved time by drilling and driving ALL the rivetts and roves, then soldering the rivets to the roves, cutting to size, then peaning all on one occasion start to finish!...LA5 Warton England
Thank you guys! The video is very soothing, very informative and educative. ASMR of Lofting.
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Great Vid. How did you calculate the distance between the ribs and how did you determine the number of the ribs?
the number of ribs was specified by the designer during correspondence. he designed it for 5 sawn frames, but advised more than tripling the number for lighter steambent ribs. establishing distance between ribs is sort of nontrivial. Because the curvature of the hull increases at both the fore and aft ends, means the rib distance should ideally get smaller. so in other words, the distance between ribs is its widest midship and smallest at the ends. started just evenly subdividing the sheet line and then figured the rest out by eye. one eyes is the ultimate arbiter in so many aspects of boatbuilding
@@neophyteboatwrights amazing job and thank you for your detailed explanation! You are a great teacher! please keep your great work up
I would have been tempted to pre-drill the first two planks for rivet holes and then temporarily bolted the steamed ribs down against them. Because it's easier to fit clamps up higher but pretty difficult to force the rib down by the keel.
predrilling is really tricky, but doable. save for the aftward ribs which had a compound curve, I found the hardest part of the curve to be at the turn of the bilge which was generally reachable with at most a 12” deep throat clamp. the bottom of the rib generally snugged up easily, especially after you give the top of the rib a mallet whack keelward.
I remember steam bending the ribs for my canoe a while ago and once you get it all worked out it's great fun! I had some lovely clear grained ash an it bent like a dream.
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Thank you very much for such quality work on RUclips. Hey, where is that link to Nettlesome boat shop?
I’ll get on that! thanks for reminding me!
great video Murphy! steam bending wood is a lot of fun. I was glad to see Dale in your video and glad you gave him a shout out at the end. His videos are well done. When he started building his Haven, he contacted me and we have spoken and communicated fairly regularly as he presses on. He told me that he got to come work with and help you. It is sure good to see you back to work on your project, been a minute. Best, Chuck
appreciate the kind words chuck! I actually never really stop working on the bot. getting videos edited and out is another ball of wax, however!
Where could you find the copper fasteners? They are very hard to find...
Yes! I too am searching for for a place to get copper nails an roves at the moument... I'm in the UK tho so it's probably all different.
@@DrTheRich Fair Wind Fasteners
@@s3b_Leney Hit up Ship Happens they're rebuilding an old wooden boat in the UK and do a lot of copper riveting. They'd probably be able to point you in the right direction.
fairwind fasteners, Jamestown distributors are the two I use most often. For bigger hardware like padlocks, cleats, pulley blocks, probably have to contact a marine foundry which there are couple notable ones on east and west coast
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The fastener direction into the installed piece of wood s a key consideration of grain orientation. Flat grain takes fasteners well and bends easily but is often not ideal due to its lack of structural support and due to grain separation risk. Vertical grain is prone to splitting from fasteners and harder to bend. A 45 degree grain orientation is a great compromise for fastener holding strength , structural support, and stability in the bend.
yes, fastener relative to grain is the other side of the coin. however, with riveting a rib in a small boat I just don’t buy that the forces are sufficient to cause splitting. holes are drilled, which makes a split less likely to develop, the rivet is essentially clamping the rib down, with the clamp force distributed around the hole by the rove or burr. While wooden boat hulls are more “plastic” structures, with the rest of the interior joinery (thwarts, inwales, etc) the hull is rigid enough the dampen hull movement below the threshold it takes to cause a split to develop that wasn’t already there. at least that’s my mechanical intuition. could be totally wrong! But I feel like this is more of a concern on larger vessels? I defer to your experience
@@neophyteboatwrights For sure, but i would imagine that you are still using screws for planking at the stem and transom? As you prob know, the issue with fasteners and boats is not just the hole itself, but the creation of a perforation line. That is usually not as big of a deal with longitudinal fastening along longitudinal planking (vs fastening planking to lateral frames or ribs and is less of a thing for sawn planking vs plywood). But a true vertical grain board can be vulnerable since a line of fasteners, if not staggered, can cause a long split between growth rings. On the transom and stem - there is no doubt that true vertical grain boards will not handle fasteners as well on those end points. As an example, i try to use vertical grain boards as lateral frames (rigid frame) since they take planking fasteners well through their edge not face. For steamed ribs, with rivets, i would still avoid true vertical grain if possible. Maybe its not a big deal with this size rib, but I would still stagger your rivet holes - vs. perfectly centering them especially for more vertical grain ribs. Your prob right that it is not a big deal for these ribs specifically. My comment was more general. I think the movement is going to me more related to moisture expansion / contraction. staggering fastener holes helps avoid that "perforation line" phenomenon. Looks good!
Ahhhhhh, thats why I ended up bending 15mm square sections and epoxy 4 of them in place because I couldn't get the edge set on a square (equivalent of 4 15mm squares). Faff, looks crap but very strong 😊. Used sheesham. Lovely vid.
Great work, man. I pretty much gave up on steam bending my 1 3/4" square frames after breaking 5 of them. Much easier to just laminate the frames for a big old boat like mine.
An hour per inch of thickness is usually the rule for steaming wood but boiling sometimes works better still.
Excellent description.
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One of the best videos I have watched this year. Top stuff
thank you!
This is one of the most underrated channels on RUclips. I’ve had to read dozens of books to get most of the information that you have covered in this series and this series took considerably less time to watch then all of that reading did. I value both a great deal, but having the visuals and animations alongside your explanations is priceless.
wow thank you so much for the kinds words!
so well done! this episode and 18 may be the very best I've ever seen on clinker planking. brilliant.
chuck! your appraisal means a lot! thank you for the kind and encouraging words!
Great video except for the music - icky music.
different strokes, different folks. but I have tried to tame my music selection as I’ve matured as an editor. sorry it was such a turn off. can always turn it down and put your own soundtrack on it
You haven't dealt with the station bevels on your mould templates. We used aluminum sheets for the template and marked which side of the sheet was to be placed on station. Then the other side was alway pointed towards the open bevel. The result was the non-station side was under sized and beneath the mould surface.If you did that the other way, then the non-station side would be proud of the mould surface. In your case, while the template is on the lofting boards, it is obvious which side is on station; the side contacting the loft board. But once you lift the template off the loft board, it is not as obvious which side is on station; especially for someone new coming onto the job.
mould bevels were determined empirically, stringing battens across the moulds once they were set-up on the keel. nothing wrong doing it theoretically, but ultimately you’ve got to listen to the boat. it’ll tell you what the bevel needs to be to get the plank to lay fair and flat across the mould. I believe I discuss that later in the planking series
I know I am a little late to this game but better late then never.. I am a retired aircraft lofter and started this Busness in the early 80's with ink on mylar. Our tolerances were pretty tight especially on airfoil shapes; half a 00 ink line or +/- .005". I was looking fwd to the Loft Corrections at 20:51. But I felt you really glossed over that subject. I know that changing a station line (wing station in my case) can impact neighboring stations in front and behind the station you are working. So the impact can be far reaching. I have found myself chasing my tail many times trying to fair all the station, waterlines and butt lines. This is mostly due to the fact that any change to a wing can have big impacts on aero performance. As time moved fwd and we started doing this work on the computer, I found that looking at the second derivative (curvature) was most helpful. If the curvature was spiking, you were working with the wrong set of curves. These issues got even easier (that is relatively easier) when we started to loft in 3D with surfaces. It was still hard and took skill, but the time and iterations decreased a bunch. I started with stacked sets of lines on mylar with the Tomahawk Cruise Missile's wing and inlet and ended with the Learjet Model 45 using CATIA with surfaces; a multi million dollar CAD/CAM system on mainframes and mini computers. Now I have Fusion 360 for next to nothing and can do the same work on my home computer. We've come a long way.
yeah lofting corrections are a serious subject worthy of a video unto themself! I was worried that I had already overloaded the video with details and at may at one point return to the subject of corrections in a future neophyte byte. the hardest thing to assess in my experience is which corrections are worth pursuing vs which are negligible. I suspect tolerances are far tighter for airplane lofting than small boat lofting. but nevertheless, I think. I still said more about correction than most other content on lofting. and the animation at least gives a sense of the interconnectedness of buttock, water, and station lines. nevertheless, I really appreciate the feedback!
Excellent
I would never use PU glue on a boat!
Basically looks like stereotomy
yes! I suspect modern boat lofting is a descendent of stereotomy practices in carpentry. very similar practices were used historically in carriage design and building as well
Great craftsmanship!
Loved it! Thank you. Im going to watch a few more episodes. I think I'll see about sending some funds your way.
You guys are doing great stuff. I tell folks i was Born on a boat and raised in a marina. But i can learn from anyone! Thanks guys
Oh no! Im could to the first episode! This is so cool!
Great description!
I am about to start making myself some model sailboats. I found your video explaining the lines on a set of plans is fantastic to help understand the shape of the hull. Brilliant work guys, thank you. Mick. Down under Australia.
I’m just starting out with boat design and although I’m relying heavily on digital tools (Solidworks, FEA and CFD), I am also trying to marry the digital with the analogue / organic. So far though, I’m not having much luck finding the right batten material and don’t get me started on the lack of weights / ducks… I’m beginning to think I’m just going to have to get some lead and pound it into roughly the right shapes! I like the idea of physically defining the curves of the keel on the side view and the stations on the front / rear views. It can be quite difficult to get splines in a CAD program to be as smooth as I imagine battens + weights could be for those really fair lines.
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You can also buy artist's oil paint in tubes which are quite thick and require thinning with more linseed oil. You add small amounts of oil to keep lumps from forming, stirring as you go. You have to make sure the white is made with linseed oil and not safflower oil or sunflower oil since many companies use those in their whites to prevent yellowing. They are not durable weather proof oils. By the way, you could mix tung oil in instead so that a mixture of tung and linseed oils result. Tung oil is more durable-slightly. Early 19th century paint pigments were yellow ochre, red ochre also called Venetian red, raw umber, burnt umber, raw sienna (sometimes called spruce yellow which is also called dark yellow ochre) burnt sienna, Prussian blue, lamp black, lead white, Turner's yellow (lead oxychloride), lead yellow also called Massicot, Vermillion, red lead called Minium. I have some early 19th century New York State newspapers with these same pigments for sale from 1826 in Rochester, and 1812 in Buffalo. In 1868 the paint colors used at a fancy painted fire engine factory in New York City were: Red Lead ,White Lead, French Yellow (this was ochre), Indian Red (a red iron oxide), Drop Black, Paris Green (probably copper + arsenic), Rose Pink, Chrome Yellow (basic lead chromate), Chrome Green (same but likely mixed with Prussian blue), Prussian Blue, American Vermilion (real vermillion but with cheaper red ochre added), English Vermilion, Chinese Vermilion, Ultramarine Blue, Crimson Lake, and Carmine. You can add cobalt drier into linseed oil paint which is available online or from better art supplies. With this, raw linseed oil can be used since it soaks into the wood deeper due to its thinner viscosity. The National Park Service has an informative article on linseed oil's superiority of waterborne acrylic latex here: www.apti.org/assets/Publications/Bulletin/2021/52.4/52.4%20Gibbs%20and%20Wonson.pdf
I believe the original wooden boat from the movie African Queen is still doing tours in Key Largo
Do you have any videos without the distracting music? I don’t remember any of my schools playing music wile teaching.
yeah sorry if the music bothers you. I've learned a lot about making videos over the years, and learned to turn down the music to make the content easier to follow. This is an early video, however, when I was still experimenting and learning.
@@neophyteboatwrights great idea, thank you.
I would really like to see an episode on those long reach wood clamps you have there, looks like you made those, and those are really useful for so many things in the woodshop along with boats. especially where you found the pattern, and the wedge you use on the back.
Hey! I did get a bunch of footage of us making those clamps way back when with the intention of posting a vid about it, but didn't really think there would be any interest. Maybe I can slap something together for a Neophyte Bite
that would be really great, I figure if I have a need for them, their is likely others as well, thanks.@@neophyteboatwrights
Engraçado !! O vídeo que seria a cereja do bolo vcs não colocaram tradução!! Que desrespeito aos ouvintes!
There are close captions in English, but no subtitles. I’m sorry. Maybe one day I’ll go back and provide subtitles for all the videos
Keep chipping away!
Really fascinating to see the paint making process. Thanks for uncovering that mystery.
Really appreciate you watching!
Excellent info. Ill need to manufacture a certain red-orange boat primer that's no longer sold commercially, so this'll come in handy.
I’ve made up red lead paint as well. Magical stuff really. If it’s the genuine article, will dry in a lil over an hour. Obviously mask up while handling the powdered pigment, but otherwise just as safe as any other paint
Fuckin ace. In 2020 I was lucky enough to be able to paint all the barge boards,. soffits and fascias (and repair replace most of them...) on my house. I stripped the lot back to the wood. Primed with linseed oil then applied two coats of linseed oil paint. A 5L tin was £125.00. However, this cost is insignificant if you consider this: Scaffolding just for painting is five times that and you will be back to strip off any alkyd paints well within 10 years. The majority of the woodwork was original from 1850. How had it survived? Cos it had linseed oil paint on it. It gets wet, it dries out; and will keep doing so... Any alkyd based paint will, without any doubt, let water behind it. It is impervious to water so no opportunity for the wood tk dry out. Knackered wood is the result.
Yeah a lot of our expectations around exterior paints are skewed negative thanks to alkyd paints. Oil based paint, especially when using an oil boiled with a lead containing compound, performs remarkably better. Better coverage, longer life, and as you mentioned linseed oil based paints polymerize into a type of goretex that sheds water readily, but also allows whatever moisture that gets in, to get out
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Who finished the hull and planking ? 12 months on 🤷♂️
Planking process was fully documented in episodes 17-19
Hey Murphy, would some japan drier help with curing?
@@ricklapp83 yes! Although it can throw off consistent and make the paint runnier. I’ve also noticed it doesn’t play nice with all pigments. Adding varnish can also have siccative effects
How long does the paint take to dry?
@@ricklapp83 depends. If youre judicious and apply a thin coat and the weather is on your side then maybe 24 hours, but more often several days until it's not tacky. The first coat sets up quickly but all subsequent coats are slower. The primer coats are not too critical for me. Just building up layers. So if they're still soft and get banged up no sweat. The final coats I'll take care to doctor the formula to get best results. I'm really keen to see how well a varnish blend will work on this scale.
Thanks for making paint! That's cool, im gonna try that. Love that lil bucket i see.