Видео

Thanks, same here, some slides/wobbles/skids were part of the run. Fortunately, survived without crashing 😜. If you are interested in motogymkhana, join some online competitions, these are really good motivators to ride more & ride well. The run in the video is from mgym.fun online competition organized by our colleagues from Poland, link is here mgym.fun/online/CurrentResults.php .

This is a "kill switch", it stops the engine if you fall from a motorcycle. It is a highly recommended upgrade if you use an idle adjuster. If idle revs are high enough, the motorcycle can run perfectly well without the rider in the saddle (check RUclips) aiming at the BMW X6 in the corner of the parking lot 😝... I use a version with "coil type" lanyard so it allows some movement freedom (e.g. letting go of the handlebars). Usually, "kill switch" is mandatory if you participate in the official motogymkhana competitions and use an idle adjuster.

Thanks for the comment! Please don't take this video too seriously, it was taken quite some time ago, it was 1st season of riding Triumph and 2nd season of riding a motorcycle overall :). As we don't have an extensive community of MG riders in Lithuania, most of my learning was from RUclips + experiments + falls & crashes like those in the video :P.

Yes, in motogymkhana style riding the concept of "lean with the bike" is quite popular. That means you don't move too much on the bike sideways and stay more less centered. I added a few links on my channel community section with playlists about Japanese riding techniques, also this video quite well explains the concept ruclips.net/video/QAH4ml5B79Q/видео.html

It must be fun! Took me some time to figure out what ass movement is working to enter the turn. Also, I had quite an interesting observation regarding turn radius- you lean forward to increase turn radius and lean back to decrease turn radius. Had you the same experience on your rides?

@@KestasLi I’ve been focusing on upper body not as much on my butt and how I use that …will have to be more aware next time. Re turn radius: Yes! I think it influences perhaps the front fork travel? Will have to set up camera targeted on fork to see. I’ll also look at what the Anti Pilotes guy does when he does this…

@@KestasLi also, I do use my butt and also knees and hips for tighter turns hands free…

Ha, sure, we can provide paid service for driving schools if they want to teach in more realistic environments :P...

Thanks for the comment, Speed Triple must be amazing to ride! Not much community in LT as well, but as one of my fellow riders said "When you begin to ride fast between the cones, people will become very much interested in how you do that" :)... Keep riding!

@@KestasLi agreed! Great bike, tad big I feel sometimes, but that’s a good challenge and room for me to grow! Keep it up! Love the vids

Thanks! I'm still very curious if I will be able to run <30s without making further modifications to my bike :).

Yes, I have an idle adjuster installed, it is usually set to the ~2500-2800 RPM depending on the training type. For no hands rotations I do these steps: take my hands off the handlebar in a straight line, lean the bike using your ass, and press on the rear brake. When the bike enters the turn, gradually release the rear brake and use it for fine-tuning the balance. I also noticed it is much easier to control your bike with the upper part of your buttocks, so you should lean back quite a bit. Works for me :).

Thanks for the comment! Unfortunately, I don't have any tutorials, most of my videos are just random stuff from my training sessions. If you look at my channel's "Community" section, I have posted links to the videos I used for the training, maybe these will be helpful. Also, you can check James Bush page m-gymkhana.com/ he is quite active in motogymkhana stage in the USA. E.g. I see he organized some event in May quite close to Los Angeles, so you keep an eye on his page :).

Once a week I run one single practice which contains all. Dowload photo pattern for "Satokana GP" and you only need 4 cones and two for start line, or just tennis balls.

@@MujoNovak Yes, Satokana GP is a nice track, I would say a little bit on the harder side for beginners :). The thing that adds new fun to the action is the timer- dump a few cones, make a track layout with 2-4 elements, and run against the clock. You will go crazy experimenting and trying new stuff to shave a few seconds/milliseconds from your "personal best"! Later you can try to run some "standard" MG layouts (Pita GP, Umigame GP etc) or join online competitions e.g. MgymFun OLC mgym.fun/online/CurrentRound.php

@@ArcticaLHThanks!

Yes, that was my feeling as well :). It seems there was a scratching sound right before the crash, so probably something was touching the ground, I panicked and dropped the bike. Thanks for the comment!

@@KestasLi Stay safe bud,happy riding.

Don't remember exactly, but it must be ~10-12m for two cone setup and ~7m for L shaped course. There is standard motogymkhana layout called GP8 often used for training and skill evaluation, it is two cones 12m apart. I personally make various combinations of training courses around that distance. You can check more ideas for track elements and layouts here motogymkhanaswiss.ch/parcours-figures/ .

Yes, one hand rotations are with 2nd gear, 1st gear idle was too slow for these. This video was taken some years ago, now I have an idle RPM cable installed, so there is no need to switch 2nd gear :).

Thanks for the comment! I mostly train "motogymkhana" style riding, which rarely uses a clutch (mostly on 1 or 2 cyl bikes), so my clutch control skills are non-existent :). All the balance stuff is done by body/rear brake/throttle. Yes, you need to change rear brake pads more often than regular riding, but it gives you very precise and smooth control. You should give it a try I think :).

Thanks, next time I will try to set the music level not to mask engine sound too much :). I like to add soundtracks to my motogymkhana videos as they look a little bit more relaxed and fun (which is really what I feel during the ride!). If there is only a video it looks dead serious, kind of "the guy shaving off 2 milliseconds after a 3-year struggle" :)... Where in reality motogymkhana discipline & community is extremely friendly and fun. I like this spirit to be reflected in the videos :).

Hi, this was kind of "fooling around" training, I was not using any predefined motogymkhana layout, so no exact dimensions. Though you may do some estimations, as these parking lines are ~2.5m apart, and the space between parking line ends is ~7m I think (whole width is ~15m ). I usually train "weave" with space between cones ~3m, so the one at the end is probably with these dimensions. Some of my videos from online champs contains exact layout and dimensions embedded at the beginning of the video, you can check e.g. this one ruclips.net/video/zGfN8U2nthE/видео.html

@@KestasLi thx for your answer.

@@Quicky107You are welcome :)

Heh, it works quite well for me :). Just keep in mind that even this app shows lean angle, I never look at the screen during the training. My helmet headphones are connected via BT to the app, so it beeps when predefined angle is reached.

Turning fast and turning safe requires different techniques. I was aiming at turning fast, as you can see not all attempts were successful ;).

Thanks for suggestion! I checked timestamps on original video, I get ±2ms from the time shown on counter. So it seems this thing is quite accurate :). Just curious- are you using external stabilised timesource for your project? For my project I hooked arduino (arduino pro to be exact) without quartz stabilised timesource. I know, that arduino internal clock is not extremely stable because of temperature and humidity influence, but usually this inaccuracy is few seconds per 24h interval. On intervals ~1min it will be in the range of 0,1ms so I think for motogymkhana purposes it is quite OK relay just on internal clock. What is your opinion?

@@KestasLi - i also use arduino nano, and think it is ok. My target is to make single-unit device, so i use ultra-sound distanse sensor.

@@danatasgervi3153 I had this idea to but I was thinking to use laser ToF (time of flight) sensor. Dropped that option later as it seems for me ultrasound and ToF have too wide detection angle, hence it is nor possible to set exact “start line” to initiate timer. But maybe you have different concept. Thansk for suggestion!

@@KestasLi - yes, yes... i calculate the tiangle and correct time for bike length... We well see... accurasy of 0.03 - 0.06 second will be good for training and outsider like me. 😁

As I mentioned in the description, this app beeps when certain lean angle is reached, I'm not looking into the screen during the ride. Connect phone to the helmet headset ant you will get instant sound feedback. Works for me :).

Hey, regarding mods- sure you can go totally crazy, but usually it is better to start from very basic things and then build your bike as your skills improve. I think very minimum for motogymkhana would be to have good bike (and rider) protection. It is not unusual to have few drops & slides during ~1h session, so protecting your bike will allow you to continue training without additional expenses :). I would recommend to check Richard van Schouwenburg (he is one of the best MG riders in EU) comments regarding bike mods, he layed out these in very structured way (link at the end). Also please check my channels community section, I placed few links there for bike protection options. And yes, be careful, motogymkhana is extremely addictive sport, I warned you :)! Bike mods for motogymkhana by Richard facebook.com/motogymkhana.adventures/photos/a.506505263051027/543375692697317

Currently I ride Bridgestone S22, front is usually ~2.2-2.3bar, rear ~2.0-2.1bar for motogymkhana. For street ride I usually rise pressure to 2.6bar rear and 2.3-2.4bar front. Still playing with pressure settings, not sure if I will have same numbers next season :)

I'm not very much interested in the lean angle number, but more to have feedback and push myself to lean more. Also, this type of apps can be ± accurate because they use combination of gyro/accelerometer to measure angle and recalibrate position.

@@KestasLi gyro + accelerometer are still not enough to give you a reading while moving.

also yea this doesnt work cuz gyroscopes don't work like that @@KestasLi

@@ThePlacehole What else is needed :)? Gyro + accelerometer is used to stabilise rotor drones in motion and stationary, this probably involves measuring angles relatively accurate. Gyro have tendency to drift over time, but this can be corrected by accelerometer (if I remember correctly from my Arduino projects). But anyway, this is not right place to discuss gyros, this app pushes me to lean more, that's whole purpose of the exercise :).

@@KestasLi You probably know more than I do, then. Yeah, I know that MEMS flight instruments are common now. It's just that, I remembered a forum discussion about phone-hardware in RC planes. Not that it was inaccurate, but that it could not be done. I can't find it, and can't for the life of me figure out what the problem was... :( sorry I'll try to find it.

Funny thing- if I manage to do nothing, then motorcycle would just turn happily :). The question here is how to keep calm and not to mess with self balance ability of machine. I still struggling heavily to increase and keep lean angle, most of my turns are quite upright.

@@KestasLi i'm definitely not a pro but i think try to keep your head up and look a little further not right in front of you that's the only mistake i see apart from that, i couldnt do better myself

@@6zdoggun Thanks! I noticed that when I'm not staring directly under my nose, somehow runs are much smoother and (sometimes) even faster. Still don't exactly know how to make that thing a habit. Maybe I should put some tape on my helmet visor to block ground view :)... Just out of curiosity- are you practicing motogymkhana yourself?

Toks "ataskaitinis" vidikas, be jokios poezijos :)... Mes čia su Romualdu atstovaujame LT tokiame on-line čempionate, kurį lenkų motogymkhanistai organizuoja, tai va reikėjo prisiduoti rezultatus kad neprapultu etapas. Nuorodoje visa čiampo 4-o etapo lentelė, ten galima pamatyti, kaip tą pačią trasą ima tikrai rimti vyrai :)... O komentuoti manau geriausiai gyvai, aikštelėje, tekstu tiek keiksmažodžių RUclips nepraleis :)... mgym.fun/online/CurrentResults.php

Sorry for that! I should have added warning with "sensitive content for motorbike riders" :)...

This video is not encouragement to risk your shiny machine :). Lessons learned I wanted to share are: 1) quality protection/crash cage is best upgrade to your bike! 2) you don't lose much traction on wet surface after rain washes dirt away (I read somewhere only ~5% of traction is lost on wet clean surface). 3) even with almost all traction available, you should be careful with the throttle :)...

@@KestasLi I thought about the cage but the design... 😂

@@miguelfernandes8996 Yeah, unfortunately you should make some tradeoffs regarding design... But you gain skills much faster! I think this is quite good deal :).

A scratched one.

Says "Scorpion Red Power" on the side :). Purchased bike with this exhaust already on, not sure if engine map was properly changed as sometimes engine behaves quite strange (e.g. on hill descents). But anyway, it doesn't affect my training very much, so I can live with that :). Maybe someday will do proper ECU tuning.

@@simonthomas5367 It is actually not as bad as you think! Crash cage and rear pegs do the job quite well, there are some scratches but I would say very minor.

@@KestasLi thank you for reply, it sounds nice :) i believe there is triumph oem map for optional arrow exhaust, maybe it will fit your modded exhaust better 🤔

Sure! Also, I recently changed front sprocket from 16T to 15T, so it accelerates better than I expected :).

This is Triumph Striple 2015 model, no traction control. Should work on my skills, no hope electronics will save my ass :).

@@KestasLi got ya. Learned riding on a SV650 and also did slide a few times on bad conditions. But riding on more powerfull bikes TC definitly saves ass

Heh, just recently changed front sprocket to -1T, should be more careful with the throttle. Also it was raining all the way to my training place, but I decided "f...ck it, I will train anyway". I think these things contributed to the slide. But thanks for the positive feedback :)!

@@KestasLi Training in the rain helps a lot, so hats-off for your attitude and the made decision!

@@murddraals Ooooh yeah, you remember when we were training in Riga it was raining almost all day. You see, I learned something :)!

@@KestasLi You were not afraid to try despite the weather conditions, which makes process a bit smoother. I had a soaking wet training myself yesterday. It was fun!

Thanks! Although this video is "quite last season", I have improved almost 1s this year :)... As of timer- this was something like "Eidoct V4 Bestlap Lap Timer Infrared Ultrared Racing Track Professional Receiver". I think searching "infrared lap racing timer" will lead to some good options. E.g this one looks quite similar to what I use www.aliexpress.com/item/32932795208.html .

@@KestasLi Hey, yes, I was browsing through your videos after I left a comment and I saw your new personal best. Congrats on that as well! 🙌 I started doing GP8 a few weeks ago on my VStrom 650. It seems like a simple figure, but I was surprised by how actually difficult it is to perform it quickly with a small turning radius. Anyways, thanks for the quick response and thanks for the link. I've ordered the timer and hopefully, in a month or so, I'll be able to track my time. 🤞

Crash cage and axle pegs are from the company called "CrazyIron", they are based in Latvia. I think it is exactly this model crazyiron.lv/product/crazy-iron-cage-pro-triumph-street-triple-675-675r-07-17/ . If I remember correctly, these guys sell worldwide.

...you can also check my channel "community" section, I added few more links there with crash protection solutions suitable for motogymkhana.

Thanks!

Thanks!

Not sure how to call opposite of "chicken stripes" :)... I added photo of my motorcycle front tyre after last season (community section). Tight turns forms quite strange "groove" around it, while middle of the tyre looks quite OK'eish :).

Hey, yes, I was competing! To be honest my first run on the competition course was totaly fuc...ed, but I completed second run! So finished the race in 48th place from 56 participants, yay!!! The course was extremely tight for beginners in some spots, so I was extremely happy just to finish the course. Will try to ride little bit faster next year :).

@@KestasLi oh damn! I thought it was happening this weekend and these were uploaded on the go, I completely missed it xD I knew I couldn't come so didn't pay close attention to actual dates. I'm sure you'll make a huge progress in a year's time, I'm always impressed about your balance on the bike and the confidence, it just looks good. 👍 congrats on the result, after all it's a freaking championship competition! 😁 how did you travel to Bednary? did you take the bike on a trailer or in a van? I don't suppose you rode it there 😅 Did you go on your own or were there a few of you going from Lithuania?

@@plllot9713 Yes, competition is completely different thing from training or online comp! You can't "build" your trajectories or strategy by running the track multiple times, it should be done perfectly from the first try. We were two persons from LT, arrived there with motorbikes on a trailer, it was quite nice journey :).

Hi Olivier, I ride STriple 675 2015, this model don't have ATC, only ABS. I ride with ABS on, as I'm still far away from the level when this becomes problem :). Usually ABS activates on rear wheel when I step on the brake too hard.

Oooooo taip, sportas kūnui ir sielai viename :).