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MARLOWE the TRUE SHAKESPEARE
conversation on a Youtube-Video about William Basse a Penname of 'TRUE SHAKESPEARE (Marlowe)
Kurzes Exposé des Buches von Bastian Conrad," Der wahre Shakespeare : Christopher Marlowe". Zur Lösung des jahrhunderte alten Autorschaftsproblems
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Conversation on the absurdity of the shakespeare authorship
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Conversation on the absurdity of the shakespeare authorship
The 'true' Shakespeare (not the Stratford man), and Gervase Markham, one of his multple pseudonyms,
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'true'Shakespeare: Gervase Markham, a pseudonym of Marlowe! #shakespeareauthorship #ShakespeareMarlowe #shakespearedebate #ShakespeareTruth WhoWasShakespeare #TheRealShakespeare #Marlovians,
Shakespeare's authorship - the outrageous failure of Stratfordianism; Stratfordianism for ever?
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#whowasshakespeare; #MarloweTheory;#shakespeareauthorship; #Marlowewas Shakespeare; #shakespeareauthorship #shakespearemarlowe; #therealshakespeare;
Dialog on a Youtube Video about Francis DAVISON, a SHAKESPARE/Marlowe's Pseudonym
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• #WhoWasShakespeare#Marlovians #TheRealShakespeare#ShakespeareExposed#MarloweWasShakespeare#ShakespeareAuthorship#ShakespeareDebate#MarloweTheory#AuthorshipQuestion#ShakespeareMarlowe#ShakespeareDebate This RUclips transcript argues that Francis Davison, author of "A Poetical Rhapsody", was a pseudonym for Christopher Marlowe, the "true Shakespeare". The argument rests on numerous textual para...
Dialog on the waterpoet John TAYLOR , a faked identity of TRUE Shakespeare
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• #WhoWasShakespeare#Marlovians #TheRealShakespeare#ShakespeareExposed#MarloweWasShakespeare#ShakespeareAuthorship#ShakespeareDebate#MarloweTheory#AuthorshipQuestion#ShakespeareMarlowe#ShakespeareDebate The source is a video transcript arguing that John Taylor, the Water Poet, was a pseudonym used by Christopher Marlowe, a playwright who was believed to have died in 1593. The video presents sev...
Conversation on Barnfield,a Penname like Shak(e)speare of the "true Author of HAMLET [alias Marlowe]
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The provided dialog presents a converation on the theory that Christopher Marlowe, a playwright and poet, used pseudonyms such as Richard Banfield and William Shakespeare to continue writing after being forced into hiding. The author of this theory argues that Marlowe’s work, under these assumed identities, can be identified by recurring themes and phrases found in his poems. The video argues t...
Conversation on John Davies , a double pseudonym of the "true" Shakespeare (Marlowe)
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• #WhoWasShakespeare#Marlovians #TheRealShakespeare#ShakespeareExposed#MarloweWasShakespeare#ShakespeareAuthorship#ShakespeareDebate#MarloweTheory#AuthorshipQuestion#ShakespeareMarlowe#ShakespeareDebate The dialog explores the possibility that William Shakespeare, the famous English playwright, used numerous pseudonyms, including "John Davis," to conceal his true identity and protect his reputa...
Dialog on John Clapham, like Shakespeare. a penname of Marlowe
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• #WhoWasShakespeare#Marlovians #TheRealShakespeare#ShakespeareExposed#MarloweWasShakespeare#ShakespeareAuthorship#ShakespeareDebate#MarloweTheory#AuthorshipQuestion#ShakespeareMarlowe#ShakespeareDebate This RUclips video presents a theory that Christopher Marlowe, a clerk for William Cecil, was actually the true author of Shakespeare’s works. The author of the video argues that a man named Joh...
ChatGPT Q&A - a question of a NON-Stratfordian
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• #WhoWasShakespeare#Marlovians #TheRealShakespeare#ShakespeareExposed#MarloweWasShakespeare#ShakespeareAuthorship#ShakespeareDebate#MarloweTheory#AuthorshipQuestion#ShakespeareMarlowe#ShakespeareDebate
Wer war Shakespeare wirklich? 1.,erste DEUTSCHE Version
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• #WhoWasShakespeare#Marlovians #TheRealShakespeare#ShakespeareExposed#MarloweWasShakespeare#ShakespeareAuthorship#ShakespeareDebate#MarloweTheory#AuthorshipQuestion#ShakespeareMarlowe#ShakespeareDebate Besprechung des RUclips Videos mittels AI (notebookLM) RUclips Video link : The TRUE Shakespeare ruclips.net/video/Z7VeQ7OER14/видео.html
Dialog on FIDESSA (Autobiographic Disclosures of the "true" Shakespeare.)
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Google (NotebookLM) Dialog on 2 youtube Videos about the Sonnet cycle FIDESSA (1593) • #WhoWasShakespeare#Marlovians #TheRealShakespeare#ShakespeareExposed#MarloweWasShakespeare#ShakespeareAuthorship#ShakespeareDebate#MarloweTheory#AuthorshipQuestion#ShakespeareMarlowe#ShakespeareDebate
The blatant ABSURDITY of Shakespeare's authorship
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#WhoWasShakespeare #Marlovians#TheRealShakespeare #ShakespeareExposed #MarloweWasShakespeare #ShakespeareAuthorship #ShakespeareDebate #MarloweTheory#AuthorshipQuestion #ShakespeareMarlowe #ShakespeareDebate Summary This RUclips transcript argues against the traditional authorship of William Shakespeare, highlighting the lack of evidence linking the Stratford man to the works attributed to him....
Conversation on Arguments of a Video for Thomas Heywood as a definite Penname of 'True' Shakespeare
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This RUclips dialog (by AI Google -NotebookLM) centers around a video arguing that the playwright Thomas Heywood was not a separate author but rather a pseudonym used by the true Shakespeare, who is proposed to be Christopher Marlowe. The video presents numerous examples of how Heywood’s works reflect Marlowe’s life and writings, suggesting that Heywood was a literary mask used by Marlowe to co...
Conversation on a preexisting youtube Video on "Shakespeare's" Cymbeline
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Conversation on a preexisting youtube Video on "Shakespeare's" Cymbeline
Conversation on Michael Drayton [as Stratford Shak(e)-sper], a Pseudonym of Christopher Marlowe
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Conversation on Michael Drayton [as Stratford Shak(e)-sper], a Pseudonym of Christopher Marlowe
Conversation on a Video about the "King Lear / Leir plays" and its 'TRUE' Authorship!!
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Conversation on a Video about the "King Lear / Leir plays" and its 'TRUE' Authorship!!
Dialog on AVISA, a revealing Allegory of the "TRUE" Shakespeare's (Marlowe's) destiny
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Dialog on AVISA, a revealing Allegory of the "TRUE" Shakespeare's (Marlowe's) destiny
Dialog on the 16 century autobiographic Essay "Polimanteia" from "True" Shakespeare (Marlowe)
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Dialog on the 16 century autobiographic Essay "Polimanteia" from "True" Shakespeare (Marlowe)
Dialog about the "True Shakespeare" Marlowe , with his penname George WITHER
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Dialog about the "True Shakespeare" Marlowe , with his penname George WITHER
Dialog on the Youtube Video" Faustus and Hamlet written by the same author!
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Dialog on the RUclips Video" Faustus and Hamlet written by the same author!
Dialog about Marlowe, the real or "only true" Shakespeare
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Dialog about Marlowe, the real or "only true" Shakespeare
Dialog about this VIDEO on the 4 King Edward plays
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Dialog about this VIDEO on the 4 King Edward plays
Dialog about the youtube VIDEO V&A / Lucrece
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Dialog about the youtube VIDEO V&A / Lucrece
Dialog about one of 2 Videos of "A Funeral elegy"
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Dialog about one of 2 Videos of "A Funeral elegy"
Dialog about a Youtube Video on the Shakespeare authorship Key Witness Ben JONSON
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Dialog about a RUclips Video on the Shakespeare authorship Key Witness Ben JONSON
Dialog about a Youtube Video of the Second edition (1640) of the Sonnets
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Dialog about a RUclips Video of the Second edition (1640) of the Sonnets
The historical & literary Shakespeare Authorship FIASCO: a never recognized play (& an Elegy).
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The historical & literary Shakespeare Authorship FIASCO: a never recognized play (& an Elegy).
Ben Jonson as the key Witness of the Shakespeare Authorship issue
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Ben Jonson as the key Witness of the Shakespeare Authorship issue
What might be the reason for the absence of any comments so far?
The AI narration makes this almost impossible to listen to. Couldn’t you have spoken it yourself.
For example the AI has got frequent (often) and to frequent (to visit) mixed up. Interesting video spoilt.
No. Bastian doesn't really speak English--he's native German. Hence, his theory is a little helter skelter. Go check out Apokalupsis Historia or Resolute Florio or ContextShakespeare or Jim Fess for real goods on the SAQ.
What a tragic moment, inspiring Oxfordian Alexander Waugh died 2 days ago (22.jul 24). I read in Wikipedia!
You spend a lot of time on Michael Drayton. Why do you lack such imagination that the arguments for Drayton as a pseudonym of Marlowe (the one true Shakespeare) are not sufficiently plausible and logical? ruclips.net/video/57LKIFQTkFo/видео.htmlsi=ZnMz9sSIpqNv4Iah
Malvolio is not from LLL...Not surprising that a Marlovian has zero wherewithal for the comedies and has to focus on the tragedies. LLL is likely written when Marlowe is still a child. It is much more a Lyly play than a Marlowe play. Wittenberg. Marlowe never went there. But someone else definitely went to Germany who is also from Kent. The Harvey quote is neat but out of context. Lololololol. Bastian read the Henslowe Diary. It's my most popular video, watch it if you don't want to read it yourself. Samuel Rowley makes additions to Faustus. Also I know you watched the Disintegrating Marlowe video, what didn't you understand about that video? Faustus A text is 60% Heywood. B Text has even more additions by Rowley and Bourne. The "original" Marlowe sections are only attributed by matching to Tamburlaine which has ZERO connection to Marlowe other than a forgery. You got the wrong guy. All the impending death and fake death readings are right but its not the spy from Deptford. It's the monumental genius from Penshurst. And it's not just him writing all of this stuff. There's CLEARLY multiple authors in Marlowe's canon.
What an absolute impressive amount of circular reasoning! All My congratulations!
@@bastianconrad2550 No Bastian. You don't get to make those kind of comments anymore. Until you actually answer what Lukas Erne has brought to the table, YOU are the circular one. Don't just rant that Lukas has ignored your work. Actually use words to refute his claims or my claims. Don't link me to another random video. On this thread make sentences with words to answer these questions Which text is definitively Marlowe? How do we know? ZERO OF HIS PLAYS--ZERO--as in NONE of his plays are printed with his name on them in his lifetime. Tamburlaine is only attributed to him through a forgery. What do you have to say about that??? We know for a fact that the A text and B text are not by a single hand. We have documentary evidence of this. What do you have to say to that? What about Massacre? Do you think that's 100% Marlowe? Because to me it reads a little light compared to the rest. Also we know Dido has Nashe's hand. We also know Jew of Malta is completely stylistically different than the rest. What do you have to say to that? Also are you aware of who John Lyly is? I'm just curious. You seem to never have heard of Lyly. To anyone reading this, Bastian does a fantastic job of ignoring any authors who predate Marlowe, including but not limited to Lyly, Sidney, Gasciogne. I have asked him many a time to read Sidney or Lyly and he has always refused saying they are irrelevant. But Lyly is actually one of the biggest mysteries for mainstream Shakespeare scholars as Lyly's lines are directly in the plays, many of the plays are structured like a Lyly play and a few even feel like a direct response/evolution to Lyly's Euphuist style. Mainstream scholars have to recourse to the idea that Shakespeare visited these plays as a teen and memorized these plays. Of course Bastian would have to do the same with Marlowe. But it's not just Lyly, there are several early plays and masques that seem to crop up in Shakespeare that would have been shown at Kenilworth in the 70s when Marlowe would have been much too young.
I asked ChatGPT and got a similar absurd answer to Philip Sidnea, compared to Marlowe. I like those fine absurdities.! One of the most ridiculous arguments suggesting that Sir Philip Sidney was the true Shakespeare involves the notion that his early death was faked to allow him to secretly continue writing under the pseudonym "William Shakespeare." This theory is not supported by credible evidence and is considered highly implausible by mainstream scholars. Here are some key points that highlight the absurdity of this argument: Chronological Impossibility: Sir Philip Sidney died in 1586, while Shakespeare's most significant works were written well after this date, with many of his plays, including "Hamlet," "Othello," and "King Lear," being composed in the late 1590s and early 1600s. The timeline simply does not support the idea that Sidney could have authored these works posthumously. Distinct Writing Styles: Sidney's writing style, as seen in works like "Astrophel and Stella" and "The Defence of Poesy," is distinctly different from Shakespeare's. Sidney's prose and poetry have their own unique characteristics, and literary analysts can distinguish between the two authors' styles quite clearly. Documented Lives: Both Sidney and Shakespeare have well-documented lives with extensive historical records. Sidney's life as a courtier, soldier, and writer is thoroughly documented, and he was a well-known figure in Elizabethan England. Shakespeare's life, though less documented in detail, includes numerous references to his career as a playwright and actor in London. Literary Output and Themes: The themes and subjects of Sidney's works are quite different from those in Shakespeare's plays and poems. Sidney's works often reflect his noble status and classical education, whereas Shakespeare's plays cover a broader range of social classes, themes, and human experiences. Contemporaneous Acknowledgment: During their lifetimes, both Sidney and Shakespeare were acknowledged and celebrated for their respective contributions to literature. There is no contemporary evidence to suggest that people of their time confused the two or that Sidney was secretly writing under another name. Absence of Conspiracy Evidence: There is no substantial evidence to support the idea that Sidney faked his death or that there was any widespread conspiracy to conceal his true identity as Shakespeare. This argument relies on speculative and imaginative conjecture rather than historical facts. Overall, the argument that Sir Philip Sidney was the true Shakespeare is based on unfounded speculation and does not hold up to scrutiny when examined against historical records, literary analysis, and the chronological timeline of their lives and works.
@@bastianconrad2550 Jesus Christ Bastian, this is like talking to my least literate 9th grade students: You were told numerous times to read Sidney (or Lyly) and you still haven't done so. You don't get to participate in today's discussion or any upcoming activities until you complete your homework. Using ChatGPT is NOT an appropriate or adequate substitute for the lesson's reading assignments, so you will not be awarded any grades on this writing passage. To any folks reading this... Let this exchange be a representation of the quality of thought and effort Bastian is willing and capable of. Instead of reading primary Elizabethan texts, he uses Ai to recapitulate watered down summaries.
@@bastianconrad2550 Also not sure if you know how AI works... But it uses info from the internet. There is no info on the internet (aside from our channel) about Sidney as a candidate so none of this really applies. STOP MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF AND GO READ SIDNEY ALREADY. Then and only then do you get to come back and say silly things. Until then radio silence.
'I', instead of 'Aye'?? How awful. Stand up for humanity!
'Spread out'? Wow, this is bad. It isn't even written by a human.
Oh no! Down with robots!
I'm out. Awful. Though I agree. 1 of many pen names.
What does it mean: you are out? Out of what?
It means 'leaving'. Bastion, you used to post wonderful videos, and now you are reduced to dogmatism and bots?@@bastianconrad2550
@@xmaseveeve5259Yeah Bastian has spiraled. Kinda sad. Definitely a cautionary tale. That said, may have some big stuff on the horizon over at AH and may (don't hold your breath) finally have some thoughts to present on Bacon. (Spoiler: he's in--but of course you knew that😊).
@@bastianconrad2550 I liked it when you used your own voice. You were excellent.
@@chancecolbert7249 Oh yes.
Down with bots!
There are a few falsehoods or misleading statement in this documentary about De Vere. For one thing, he WAS recognized as a dramatist and accomplished poet by his inner circle of aristocrats. There are surviving letters documenting this by fellow playwrights such as Ben Jonson. Also, the idea that De Vere died too early to have written many of the plays is misleading. There's no good evidence from the Shakespeare traditionalists or anyone else that Sheakespeare/De Vere wrote the plays when they say he did. Since De Vere was born about twenty years before Will Shakspere all of those plays could have been written earlier and produced later.
Thanks Carl for your commentary on my Marlowe / Shakespeare authorship Video. I clearly respect your conviction as an Oxfordian. I am ,however not convinced, that your remarks (my falsohoods) in the long run, will be helpful. 1. Even if Edward de Vere was recognized as dramatist by his inner circle of aristocrats , it is in no way helpfull, to recognize him as even a mediocre poet compared to the universally recognized dramatist poet genius Marlowe 2. The knowledge that de Vere died too early (1604) is -as far as I can judge - not misleading , but a simple fact,which no one has - so far- contradicted, But you may also bend the truth. 3. I think it is unfair or dishonest to postpone the creation of all Shakespeare plays earlier in time, after all we know today.
F. Bacon
what does your „shortissimo „ F. Bacon mean? Francis Bacon the only true Shakespeare? My deepest condolence for your loss of speech!
Not true. There are just too numerious stylistic, setting and thematic differences in their writings. This clearly shows their corpus was from two different personalities with different life interests and focus.
Thanks for your commentary! The dummy "Shaksper" from Stratford is not my point.- Consider The Marlowe/Shake-speare authorship theory makes no sense, whatsoever, if you / we assume or accept, that Marlowe was killed May 30 1593…. The deadly threatened only existing literay universal genius Marlowe must have survived…(faking his death with the support of the crown W.Cecil) …we have now enough, textual & contextual literary and historical facts and (contextual autobiografical) arguments (...study this chanel!) to fully support this assumption , but MPT , the theory of a Multi-Pseudonymous-authorship Theory of Marlowe (The pennames include Shake-speare, Chapman, Drayton, Heywood,T.M etc etc …. you must (and certainly will) not believe .(….but at least try to deeper understand and reflect the idea and the arguments! ) . Why at present 800 clicks a week? ruclips.net/video/Z7VeQ7OER14/видео.html
Yes and no. Marlowe's corpus itself is currently being dismantled by academia as we speak. Check out Lukas Erne's essay "Disintegrating Marlowe," where he shows that the plays attributed to Marlowe are actually all based on bad scholarship. All his plays were only posthumously attributed to him. When going back to test those attributions, one finds several hands in each Marlowe play. Trying to decide which is the base Marlowe and which are the other co-authoring or revising hands is impossible because we have no baseline Marlowe to compare with. Historically folks have used Tamburlaine for that baseline--but Lukas Erne shows that the only thing attributing Tamburlaine to Marlowe is a forgery in the Henslowe Diary. And indeed stylistic and stylometric studies have shown Jew of Malta is wholly different stylistically from the rest. On the other hand, Edward II is stylistically super similar to WS's early history plays. Massacre at Paris is a bootleg so useless in this discussion. And Tamburlaine is not far from Robert Greene. Furthermore, plenty of scholars agree that Marlowe may have a hand in several early WS plays like the H6 and R3 plays. Taming of the Shrew is likely a rework of Taming of A Shrew which has whole passages lifted from Faustus. Faustus itself has tons of Nashe in it. All that said, you are right that Bastian is wrong. Bastian finds a name on a cover page and just tapes "by Marlowe" over it. Feel free to check out me and my buddy's channel (Apokalupsis Historia) where we go way way deeper than Bastian. We also seem to be unique in that we don't discount current mainstream academia like most WS doubters.
Most of Shakespeare’s works were completed after Marlowe died in 1593. So he faked his death too? Oh stop, that’s so silly. 😂
Why so impolite? Do you really understand the logic of your own sentence? The Marlowe/Shake-speare authorship theory makes no sense, whatsoever, if you / we assume or accept, that he was killed May 30 1593…. The deadly threatened genius Marlowe must have survived…(faking his death was supported by the crown) …we have now enough, textual & contextual literary and historical facts and arguments to support this assumption…. you must not believe it .(….but try at least to understand it)
I sincerely apologise for your wrong name being taken. . Bastian Conrad. Thanks.
His Bastion Contradiction! Your thesis is informative because you'very compared and contrasted two great legendary authors of the same erase 'Christopher Marlowe' and 'William Shakespeare' in different ways. Thanks & regards.
The first half of this video is excellent. It explains shortly but very plausibly why it is highly likely that the part-time actor, successful businessman and producer of plays Will Shaksper from Stratfoŕd was not identical with the great poet and playwright William Shakespeare. Will Shaksper produced plays like "Romeo And Juliet", but he didn't write them - just like Mr. Goldwyn and Mr. Meyer from Hollywood's famous company with the iconic roaring lion, who financed and produced many legendary Hollywood movies. But as we all know, Mr. Goldwyn and Mr. Meyer were neither scriptwriters nor directors. And I think that the contemporary audience who visited the famous Globe Theater, also knew very well that Will Shaksper hadn't written "Romeo And Juliet" or "The Taming Of The Shrew". It's also possible that the same audience who had adored Christopher Marlowe, reckognized his style and might've suspected something. There are also no contemporary sources whatsoever which suggest that Will Shaksper was not just a play broker but also a playwright. To be fair, Mr. Shaksper himself actually never claimed to be a playwright! The equation "Will Shaksper = William Shake-Speare" was made many years after Will Shaksper's unnoticed and unheralded death in Stratford. It happened when the very first printed editions of Shake-Speare's plays became available. And since back then London's theaters had long periods of inactivity because the pest and the puritans kept them closed, future audiences simply didn’t know anymore that Will Shaksper and William Shakespeare weren't the same person and they also didn’t question the oral tradition of Christopher Marlowe's "fearful and sudden end". These things happened a long time ago after all, and there was also a long period when Shakespeare's great plays fell totally out of fashion and weren't performed. But when Shakespeare was rediscovered eventually, people took it for granted that the name "Shake-Speare" on the printed editions of the great plays and beautiful sonets was the name of the author. So far so good. I completely agree with Bastian Conrad that Will Shaksper wasn't an author. And I also believe that Christopher Marlowe wrote many of Shakes-Speare's works. He is the only candidate who makes sense, since he had the proven ability to write great plays and beautiful poetry. He is also the only candidate who had a very good reason for not using his own name. A fellow playwright who was also a good friend of Marlowe, had already been arrested and questioned, and he died later because he had been brutally tortured. Exactly the same could've happened to Marlowe, and his only option was to go AWOL for a while. It’s quite possible that he thought at first this would not be a permanent arrangement and that he might be able to return after things had coole down a bit. But once he was officially declared dead, he needed to stay dead, because his return would've gravely endangered not just himself but also his friends and helpers. I also think that Bastian Conrad is probably right when he claims that Marlowe might've used more than one false name in order to get other writings published. That's not an unreasonable assumption. But that is also slippery ground, and IMO Bastian Conrad starts to speculate wildly when he comes up with his improbably long list of other names which Marlowe might've used. According to Bastian Conrad Marlowe must've single-handedly produced most of the literary output of the Elizabethan and the Jacobean age 😉 These improbable claims reduce the overall value of Conrad's work on the authorship question, and I should add that the vast majority of us "Marlowians" don't agree with Bastian Conrad.
Sabine, thanks for your highly valuable comment and justified critic. Give me some time , to defend at least my improbable claims!(surely beyond imagination) ....
@@bastianconrad2550 , Bastian, thanks so much for you fair answer, and I am honestly very interested in what you have to say! You might have noticed that i am somewhat knowledgeable as far as the authorship question is concerned, and I agree with you about many things. I have also read your book, and as a fellow German I am glad that someone introduced this subject to a German readership, since it isn't so well known here! I would love to discuss this subject with you!
@@sabineb.5616 Many thanks, Sabine I hope my reply will reach you tomorrow. Would it even be possible, to sent me by email your mail adress To communicate perhaps on a little more private base…. bastian.conrad66@gmail.com
@@bastianconrad2550 , Bastian, danke! Ich habe Ihnen eine Mail geschickt, und auch ein paar persönliche Hintergründe mitgeteilt. Ich bin im Moment unterwegs, aber wir werden sicher Zeit finden, über die Marlowe-Theorie zu sprechen. Ich würde mich freuen, meine Kenntnisse über Marlowe und Shakespeare wieder aufzufrischen, da es schon einige Zeit her ist, dass ich daran gearbeitet habe 😀
14:10 you said that De'Vere and Bacon were not plawrights, it is completely false, although some of their works were "court masques", which were made for special occasions and could be seen only by the court and royals, anyway, De Vere was known poet and playwright in his time, you said that he could not be Shakespeare, because he died to early, but it does not bother you, in case of Marlow, I do not get that logic
Sorry I didn‘t write that at all .!!! when ascribing Bacon & de Vere as the best possible potential other candidates . Bacon was neither a playwright nor a dramatist at his time. believe it or not. De Vere was no „known“ playwright /dramatist whatsoever in his time .Believe it or not . Be sure: it bothers me a lot, that Marlowe officially was murdered in Mai 1593. but you should consider the whole Marlowe Theory, which wouldn‘t make any sense as long as you deny the full historical debate (over a century)of Marlowe‘ alleged murder story. He survived since His deadly threatened life was saved by the crown. you must however . not believe that !!! You cannot have possibly listened to my full article , you quoted. - Almost 36000 viewers > 400 likes . Not too bad“
@@bastianconrad2550 Your scholarship on De Vere is weak. Read Shakespeare by Another Name by Mark Anderson, then respond here with a rebuttal. Also do a Google search for De Vere's early adolescent poetry. You can find at least twenty of them online. Some of them are admittedly marginal but for most of them it's easy to see that they could be early teenaged works by the more accomplished poet Williams Shake-Speare (an obvious pseudonym). There are even many thematic similarities between early De Vere/Shakespeare's later poems.
Yes Marlowe
An hour of poor, thin, misguided close readings and circular logic. Also you have the Herbert brothers' portraits mislabeled. Breton is a frontman for Dyer. Its in England's Helicon, "i am thy poor silly Coridon," Breton is also the step-son of George Gasciogne--himself likely the first big frontman of theatre. Marlowe did not write Gasciogne by the way. But Dyer might have.
If only you knew what you were talking about.
You leave me at a loss! Be more rude!
Do elaborate.
if you ask every same question about Marlowe you still get the same question/answer
Sorry no idea what your comment is trying to say!
i love my Marlowe like really... and i have gone down the Shakespeare rabbit hole. But you only address the 'what if' on team Marlowe ... you have to ask the opposite angle @@bastianconrad2550
Interesting case. I wish I could digest the video more, but the music was loud, long and very distracting. I don't have anything against the narration - as many here do - just the music. Everything seem to be hitched to Marlowe's fake death. I don't know if I'll hitch my star to that, but it makes for a fascinating mystery. Maybe the Earl of Oxford and Bacon helped Marlowe escape the Dutch and, as a reward for their services, they all agreed to contribute in different ways to the plays and poems. Three heads are better than one and there are almost infinite ways to edit the material and make the best so that no criticism could ever touch the works. Genius in this case would be a trinity of artists, a triumvirate against the mediocre and boring. A God like trinity to indicate that there is life after death.
Are you really serious? : A trinity of Artistic geniuses!
@@bastianconrad2550 I think that is really the only solution. A lot of artistic types have editors, ghostwriters, contributors, etc., so this is nothing terribly new. Individually everybody cancels each other out and there is no over all consensus - but together all the parts fit. And they fit quite well. The three-some will use Oxford for his knowledge of law, experiences in Europe, history and the Court; Bacon for his cryptograms, his futuristic vision, and knowledge of human nature; and Marlowe for his literary, poetic and playwright skills. Think of Hamlet's "To Be" soliloquy. That could be a Danish story/play that Oxford heard about in his travels in Europe, it can be about Marlowe imagining his death (a stabbing) at the hands of the Dutch, and then you have Bacon adding his practical insight (conscience makes cowards of us all) to it.
@countvlad8845 Agree to a large extent tho I would add two Sidneys and a John Dee to round it out on the top level. beautiful thing about the differences in sole authorship (Marlowe with Bastion on his channel and Ros would agree btw vs group theory folks like my other favorite Authorship channel ( that
It's a taboo like moon-landing conspiracies are taboo. Yeh, we'll listen politely and then walk away as quickly as good manners will allow. If you think you need a university degree to write literature then you don't know much about literature. Come to that, Marlowe didn't really PASS a degree anyway. It was handed to him for services rendered. Which puts him at precisely the same educational and social level as the man from Stratford.
The whole story in 1 minute. ruclips.net/video/_htlSsFoocI/видео.html
Marlowe Summary.- ruclips.net/video/Z7VeQ7OER14/видео.html.
Thank you Bastion. You caught on to my greatest plan of all time. Now everyone will know the truth about me. GOD DAMN YOU ♥️ 10/10 With the facts
Is there a psychiatric clinical term for your impressive personal equation with somebody else (like Christopher ) in English? I need some help!
Hi it's Baker hopefully still above ground.
Thought you would never ask. I suspect Bastian Conrad will be understood to been first to seen Marlowe's entire canon. Perhaps with the exception of his authorship of Sherlock Holmes. Ask Google for a picture of Marlowe's signature in the Will of his neighbor Kathryn Benkims signed while his Cambridge records prove he was home from classes. A record not yet discovered before Holmes was printed. A time traveler?
Sorry …I find no access to your logic!
@@bastianconrad2550 are you a machine? No I am CHRISTORFER MARLOWE 1594
Sorry once more, I have no idea, what is your primary aim to write to me?
understand or grasp the full canon of Marlowe b. 1564. A matchless opus of works numbering well over three hundred books. And surpassed only by the overlapping Spanish genius born the same year as Marlowe (1564) Lope De Vaga. Odd as it may seem in the same geographic area, albeit separated only their langues: Spanish and English. Odd but widely accepted by scholars and ordinary readers alike as two different persons. Given the cases of twins, monozygotic twins, Perhaps it possible that such twins divided not by separate zygotes but accidents after birth to be raised in entirely different cultures. One Spanish and one English, but under the flesh having sprung from the same flesh or zygote, to be full brothers. Could this explain the curious phrasing of the First Folio of Shakespeare which holds that Pembroke and ..... "an incomparable "pair of brothers?" a rather awkward construction, wouldn't we say. Whereas if they were monozygotic explained by modern genetics. under the flesh having sprung from the same flesh or zygote, to be full brothers. Could this explain the curious phrasing of the First Folio of Shakespeare which holds that Pembroke and ..... "an incomparable "pair of brothers?" a rather awkward construction, wouldn't we say. Whereas if they were monozygotic explained
Steven , How many of the (contextual,a.o.) arguments for a survival of Marlowe have you reflected. You are aware, otherwise the Marlowe theory makes no sense whatsowever !) studio.ruclips.net/channel/UCz4QMuAf1eRRtu9QuX40MoQvideos/upload?filter=%5B%5D&sort=%7B%22columnType%22%3A%22views%22%2C%22sortOrder%22%3A%22DESCENDING%22%7D
Discussing the reason of the absolute anonymity of your searched candidate, and knowing that marlowe was forced for life saving and safety reasons to abandon name and identity, why it is so hard for you to see the perfect motif for anonymity in Marlowe alone. my thesis since long is the Multipseudonymity Thesis of Marlowe. A short contribution of theses days,perhaps of interest to you ruclips.net/video/iwuZsSgOPus/видео.html
Shakespeare's last play was "The two noble kinsmen", only Francis Bacon was alive at this time.
The marlowe theory makes no sense, whatsoever, if you let Marlowe have been murdered in 1593. His assumed faked death and survival is a precondition for the theory.- thanks for your interest.
The Timon of Athens, Troilus and Cressida or Coriolanus represent the misanthropy that Marlowe must have felt knowing that posterity was not going to recognize his literary achievements. The peculiar plots of Marlowe are repeated in different versions of not being able to trust anyone, in the cosmic Justice of not being recognized for your merits or social hypocrisy. It is not explained why already in 1607 he did not unmask the farce and made himself known. It is also ironic that the historical Shakespeare, a man concerned only about money and with such little culture, has gone down in history like the great William Shakespeare without anyone discovering or intuiting the lie until more than two centuries later and has created theories considered conspiracy .
well said
We don't have to take ourselves so seriously. The work remains there to be enjoyed and apprehended in depth. Those who believe in the Marlowe Theory will be able to enjoy it more, those who believe in the Stratford Theory will enrich it with another version, but the stony style, the arguments, the dialogues remain forever. This theory is a brilliant detective exercise, enriching at all levels. Hopefully the Marlowe Theory will be accepted by the academic system at once, or at least the reasonable doubt of Shakespearean authorship.
Anyone knows who is the speaker in this vid?
thanks, Ralph for your interest. The speaker is the artificial speech of "HARRY" from the App TTS =,from TEXT to SPEECH). Later I used BILL JOEY (from the App SPEECHELO) - Sorry! My own English pronunciation , as a German is not good enough!
@@bastianconrad2550 Thanks also, Bastian, for your quick reply and clue. Yes, "TTS" is well known to me and I've experimented with it in the past. I myself was no less enthusiastic about the language qualities at the time and is obviously not a bad choice for dubbing texts in a foreign language. At least she didn't recognize the artificial voice right away.
So many into jackasses. Thomas Paine who signed Common Sense as an Englishman had heard and read Bottom in say it in Midsummers Nights Dream. And check out the registration dates. Dream is the one where Theasues returns with or because he was given the string so he could find his way out of the mentor's cave...he returns to Athens with it's constitution under his arm..what day was it then that Athenians cellobrated their independence on (not July 4) I'll give another double hint the date isn't know but "North" who lived with the Cecil's made one up. You have to read all the way to the end of Golding's translation of Parallel Lives or maybe it's North's anyhow it's the registration date. more later
Thought you weren't going to ask me. You're on the right path Comrade. Yes Marlowe became Shakespeare June 1593 with the "first heir of (his) invention'" Venus andt Adonis". On his way to the Court of James VI of Scotland. Marlowe wasn't gay and had already fathered William Herbert for the older Lord Pembroke. James VI was so gay he failed with Anne despite all the nightly attention he got from his Knights of the Garter. Cecil had didpatched a minor English poet who Anne and James flirted with but Anne failed to be with child. Burghley knew Marlowe was more suitable andy would manage the chore what had he written about Venus/Mary Sidney? I "'I hate not thee but thy device in Love thy lendeth love to every stranger thy doesn't do it for love but to increase the gain (thrill) Hope you recall how young Adonis died? With the tusk of s wild hog in his groin. What did Venus say over his body? " In truth I might have done that myself.." or words to that meaning. Look for the Sonnet that is a hidden acrostic to Marlowe's mentor, the poet/teacher who saved Marlowe:s life in Hog' s lane: Watson Thomas. His dead shepherd when Marlowe made it into his play it becomes Dead Shepherd I going thy saw of might whoever loved not at first sight..." want the Sonnet number...or a hint? in the sonnet he says of his own craft that he mearly turns older things into newer ones in the opening of Julius Caesar he the older cobbler who works with all not awl and mends old souls...not soles. Good luck my German friend and yes he did it all. he and the Cecil's had the same dream the state government must change from kings to councils they understood that the king's were not gods if only because the gods wouldn't error by making so many jackasses John Baker
Comrade and Conrad sounds similar..-Thanks for your comments. Have you published anything anywhere related to your Marlowe position? Best regards Bastian
Because you, a Marlovian, along with the Stratfordians, the Oxfordians, the Baconians, and all other candidate groups do not know all of the historical facts that were carefully hidden at the time. A serious methodical decryption process has recently been achieved of the Funerary Plaque in Stratford-upon-Avon by Jacob Roberts. It turned out to be an Autobiography of Bacon, who explains the whys and the whos of what was occurring during that time period and the need for secrecy then. These discoveries have been backed up by other documents, books, maps, drawings, paintings, and even in the King James Bible. Marlowe was an alias for another very famous person, who went on to be several other very famous people. They had started with their aliases early in life, while spying for England. They even wrote letters from one alias to another in order to cement that person's identity.. When doing research of people of the period and you see words to the effect "not much is known of their early history," that is a clue that it may have been an alias. Many talents of these people were not even known to most of their contemporaries, like being sailors, master painters and engravers. That portrait of Marlowe was painted by Bacon, as encrypted in the words, numbers, and other clues. Many of the group of people involved had faked their deaths, and then took on another identities. This was often planned years in advance. Bacon planned his own death 15 years prior, and this can be clearly seen in the KJB if you know how and where to look. There is no reason to cast stones at those who don't know the truth. There are numerous surviving documents all pointing to Oak Island, Nova Scotia, as the place where Bacon hid underground all his works that he could not claim in his lifetime, proof of his royal birth and possibly several other people who were also of undisclosed royal birth, some treasures that were probably amassed from his time sailing with Sir Francis Drake, as his navigator, and perhaps even his own tomb. With the new revolutionary Muon tomography being used on the Island, which uses cosmic rays to produce a 3D image underground, the searchers can locate cavities without digging. This same technology recently discovered a new, previously unknown, 40 meters long chamber just above the Grand Gallery in the Great Pyramid. Perhaps we will have the concrete information that those who don't understand the discoveries from the decryptions may be satisfied by the truth in a different form. I will point out the absolutely brilliant way they hid these truths in plain sight in multiple locations that they hoped would survive time. I don't think they thought it would take over 400 years to work out their clues.
Very interesting! Thank you
Marlowe was an alias. Please take the information on the painting you show, and the decryption tells you the identity of the painter and the portrait sitter. It is very easy to do using the words and numbers written on it, not to mention the information provided in the design itself. I did it in just a few minutes. The powers faked the death of "Marlowe." Don't you find it interesting that the Privy Council stepped in to award his graduation certificate at Cambridge? How often was that done in history? These guys were spys!
Thanks Ron (Mr.Oxfordian) For your interest . Unfortunately, your scrutinity doesn’t convince me ..-. Whom do you mean specifically wih the “Crown”. You should from the very beginning call the child by its name.. It was of course William Cecil, Lord Burghley. He was not the kind of man to let an ovverpowering genius (the only one!!) thoughtless killed, There are abundant mighty and numerous arguments for Marlowe (some 2000) that it makes no real sense to accept a single (! zero +1) poor argument that M was killed , or Cecil wanted him killed. reflect the chain of a few 100 arguments (link) , at least, and how you would refute them ...... ruclips.net/user/bastianconradmarlowecreatedshakespearevideos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid P.S: There could be infinitely be more to say about your argumentation but I am fully aware (also for me) , that after a certain age impregnations of beliefs are no longer easily erased. Such efforts to try to change someone’s belief are wasted time. .....it needs new generations....your image and knowledge of Marlowe ("troublesome", "unprolific", "controversial" WOW!!!) seems to be an impressive caricature of the reality. You do not seem to ever have read Dr Faustus, Edward II, Hero & Leander etc. etc....what a shame)
Well done. You have posed most of the important questions regarding the authorship question. I must take umbrage however at the final conclusion that Marlowe was the author of the plays and poems attributed to Shakspere of Stratford. While the Marlowe conspiracy theory seems plausible, it falls apart under scrutiny. Why would the Crown (or anyone else) have gone to so much trouble to keep him alive when it was simpler to have him killed or exiled far away and be done with it? It makes no sense to have put him in "witness protection" which is a concept only known in the past century. In previous eras unwanted individuals who were still valuable were shipped off to colonies far from home, yet the Marlovian conspiracy puts the playwright in Europe, which was easily accessible by a quick hop across the English Channel, where his enemies could get to him. The only people who survived such exile were people with Catholic leanings who could rely on the underground network of priests and nobles living in England to ship them to safe houses both in and out of England. Marlowe was a notorious atheist unless the contemporary records are wrong, so it would not have been possible for him to have been secreted away by Catholic sympathizers or recusant Catholics who feared for his life. Guarding such a public atheist from harm would have risked the lives of everyone who sheltered him. The entire Marlovian theory rests on the idea that somehow this atheist spy was still valuable for some unknown reason. There is nothing in the plays and poems to suggest that he was valuable other than to provide the Court and patrons of the theater with superb plays, which in those days were seen as lowly entertainment, especially when presented outside of Court. And if he had any information which could have compromised any noble or people in high posts, it would have still been easier and more efficient to have him murdered rather than leave him alive to potentially blackmail anyone of authority. The records show, however erratically, that this was what happened. The Marlowe theory rests on a paradox that someone wanted him alive but still needed him to appear dead. And there is no clear motive for anyone to have kept him alive whatsoever. Indeed, if he was kept alive, it would have been easier to keep him in some noble's estate as a hired servant under a false name, but I doubt that he would have accepted that since it appears from the record he had a huge ego. Despite several generations of scholars and researchers looking into this, nobody can offer a reason why he would have been living secretly in Europe without adding layers and layers of speculation over what could be answered clearly. From what I understand of the theory, it takes convoluted reasoning and close examination of the texts of the plays and speculation on the involvement of people like the Earl of Southampton (who was himself in trouble with Queen Elizabeth for his role in the Essex rebellion) to make the facts stick together. Spy networks back then were sophisticated, to be sure, but I seriously doubt that anyone would have wanted the troublesome, unprolific, and controversial Marlowe secretly alive for any reason. It doesn't make sense. Just my ideas on the subject.
It’s kind of cristal clear there’s a serious enigma about the authorship. Much more problematic to solve it, though. Marlowe ? Bacon ? De Vere ? These three hypothesis do offer some pretty upsetting coincidences. At the same time, none of them has delivered so far the ultimate evidence of was the one and only ‘Bard’. Therefore, at the moment 27:37 I quite like personally the idea of a collective writing + revision of each single work before publishing the Folios.
Wait until you find out who the true author was, of Shakespeare and Marlowe. Be prepared for Jacob Robert's book to be released in about a year. It will blow you away, as does his two other books. He shows a step by step decryption of the Shakespeare funerary plaque. You are close in your theory, but it is only a small part of the Entire story!
i found the sources of Jacob Roberts. Come on! a Baconian…with nothing but old camels!
Roberts' source is the funerary plaque. It is a discovery not a theory. Alan Green is more likely to herd camels around the Great Pyramid, which also may be a truth.
Hey ! Bastian, If Marlowe was Shakespeare, then why university wits used to criticise Shakespeare.???
Hi Mansi, many thanks for your interest.As yo may know, the „university wits“ is a vague term, of a Badly defined group of Engl. poets and professional writers. The term did not exist during their lifetime- (created in the 19th century?) whom do mean specifically? And his critics against william(from Stratford…(Greene?) bastian
@@bastianconrad2550 Yeah! Robert Greene quoted a line to mock Shakespeare "An upstart crow beautified with our feathers." Why did Greene said such a mockery about Shakespeare? I didn't understand.
Mansi Thanks… Perhaps consider my blog 562 Https://the-true-shakespeare.blogspot.com/2020/02/562-shakespeare-misquoted-long-overdue.html
You are correct of course but for the wrong reasons!
All I know is that spies are masters of false identities and faking deaths to take on different personas elsewhere. I also know that Marlowe was a spy. As to who was Shakespeare, sadly none of us will ever know.
Thanks for your interest.- Are you really satisfied with your commentary?
@@bastianconrad2550 Do you mean I think that the answer to our question is always unknowable? Sadly yes. I think when it comes to riddles, the Universe will answer a yearning mind, but never quite with what that mind needs most to fit it's cosy existence. An insecure puritan wants the safe status quo of a humble Shakspeere of Stratford. A lover of logic and science wants Bacon. A flamboyant Cavalier wants Devere, and a pure artist just wants Marlowe.
Thom great thanks for your fine philosophical reflections…give me your personal belief, Do you think, the Shakespeare authorship controversy has its justification or is - more or less - nonsense?
I seriously hope, Thom that you are a pure artist.
Bastian ... Thank you too. In answer to your erudite question I would say without any hesitancy yes! Absolutely. We have to know! For whoever was responsible for these treasures, was a truly extraordinary man, or men (I think it could indeed have been a collaborative process). Yet if we look at the current state of our society and culture, where nothing is real any more. Fake news destroys all truth. Fact finders are found out to be false finders. Where nothing can be verified, and yet everything has an alarmingly shallow and sinister agenda behind it - Left or Right, Class, Skin, Sex. Where we have the attention spans of gold fish and don't care. Where we can't even hand write, while the Earth is becoming flat again! It's suddenly become very, very precious! We are desperately holding on to our culture now, like a Greek Librarian violently coughing, while pulling out scrolls from the burning embers of Alexandria.
It is a good video, it shows that it is worked and that the author has read both poems, very instructive about Shakespeare's lyrical poems. Various criticisms have been made of the Marlowe Theory. One saying that his style was different where only the protagonist shines and his humor is lewd and exaggerated, compared to the polyphonic character full of characters with their own lives and the subtle humor of Shakespeare. Perhaps in that you can see the development of the personality of the same author. The more the Marlowe Theory is criticized, the more it convinces me.
Bacon/Neville
I am really interested in what this video had to say but the robot voice is so wrong ..mispronunciations, jumbled missing pieces of words. The music interludes are so loud, maudlin and too long..I was looking for subtitles so I could just read it and not have to listen..Please do it again..this is actually awful
Thanks for your commentary….I am sorry. My english is too bad, .- you seem strongly dependent on outwardness & formalities..- I recommend to you to make a walk, play tennis and forget my and your vain efforts, it damages your soul.- that’s not necessary..-
@@bastianconrad2550 your saying nasty comments to anyone who makes recommendations to you to better what you have done...dont post stuff in English if you know your no good at it. Refrain from blaming the listener for your own vain errors.
Let it go. I hope you feel good now that you have pissed yourself.
@@bastianconrad2550 I think you mean take a walk..pls improve your English enough to do the voice over or don't do any more
Hello lastwavepoorsoul. You seem to enjoy your anonymous conceit. unfortunately it always makes me want to vomit. You would do me a huge favor if YOU would practice another instead of your writing sport.thanks in advance.
Now is definitive. Christopher Marlowe was the true Shakespeare. Im completely Sure. Thank you Bastian Conrad!
Hallo Helena, nice to hear from you!! How are you in these difficult times??
I understand: you are saying: the Earl of Oxford was using Marlowe as one of his many front ! WOW !