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Rhatley@dallasisd.org Happy to answer any questions.

I have a coaching buddy that I get it from. He has the connections!

That means a lot Coach. I am not a 4-2-5 guy, I run multiple 4-3. I am sure I could charge something, and I’m publishing a book next month, but I love football and think it’s important that other coaches can find some decent stuff for free.

@@coachrj5890 Yours is a lot better than decent. You clearly know what you are talking about. Any real structural difference between the 4-3 and 4-2-5? Vs lots of sets I'll take the Nickel (we call him the Bandit) and put him in a 50. Play Cov 5 behind it. Pretty close to a 4-3.

Rhatley@dallasisd.org

Can use email or if you would like to set up a zoom session would be happy to do that as well.

@@coachrj5890 Emailed you. Let me know when you free for a Zoom also

Never saw the email. Send it to reed.hatley@gmail.com Could be our system kicking it out. I will be free tomorrow if there is a time to jump on zoom

@@coachrj5890 Tmrw works. I'll email.

Reed.hatley@gmail.com is my non work email. Send me an email and I’ll respond with my zoom link. We are on spring break this week so maybe we can find some time to talk some ball. Feel free to email me questions as well. Always willing to share.

Appreciate it coach!

@@coachrj5890 Keep it up! The coaching community needs it.

Yes you are correct, that play is inside veer and not midline. I believe it does matter where the tackle/end is aligned, at least that is how I was taught the difference between I/O veer and midline. On a whiteboard, no doubt back path is the difference, but in high school that can be hard to determine and wildly inconsistent. I've found it easier when breaking down opponents to tag the shade they are reading.

@@coachrj5890 Whoever taught you that was so wrong it hurts me. And no this isn’t an agree to disagree situation. Been in this offense for a long time

@@drewsmyly1692 Educate me. What’s the determining factor between the variations?

@@coachrj5890 the play call is the determining factor. All the rules are different. It has nothing to do with where the defense aligns other than who 1,2,3 are

@@drewsmyly1692 LMFAO it actually "hurts you"? 😂😂😂 Jesus Christ don't be such a softy man. Especially when you're trying so hard to criticize this guy.

Really dove into the 3 safety stuff since making this video and I would agree to some extent. They play a lot of their fronts based off backfield presentation and likely play calls. For example, they like outside shades verse gap heavy teams, it allows them to play off the down block and spill pullers. Can be done in 4i’s but likely to get washed out. Next video I do will be covering the different fronts they run to backfield sets and the reason why. Appreciate the views!

@@coachrj5890 thanks for the feedback coach really interested in the 3 - safety stuff but interested in how it would adjust to 21 pers or run heavy formations.

I was surprised seeing they played 505 against spread with the backers so close (I assume so the guards didn't climb and gaps were filled) but the idea of the mint front (4i-0-4i) is supposed to deal with that at "automatically" spill everything. Why do you guys think they're trying to keep that 3-2 box? Seems like an overhang is always missing. Based on backfield sets maybe? Thanks for the input

It’s an option play. The running back blocks down for the seal but because of the plus one defender on the outside, the QB chooses to keep it and the puller is suppose to kick out to open his crease

You can set passing strength to the TE in a pro set and run palms but I would only do that if the Pro side was into the boundary. It’s hard to play palms verse a pro set due to the wide splits between the TE and WR. Most teams would elect to play man verse pro or some type of quarters. Playing palms verse pro makes it hard on the safety to cover the vertical of the WR if the TE runs an out route and pulls the CB off the WR. It’s also a personnel issue. 4-2 teams play there run stopper at Will and their cover guy at Nickel. Calling passing strength to the TE in a pro set would put the Will on coverage and the Ni as a run fit guy.

@@coachrj5890 I’d set passing strength to wide side. Then play a cloud coverage into the boundary. My question is MOF what are some choices.

If we get PRO set in the MOF we run our split field coverage. RAM (essentially man) to the PRO side and whatever coverage we like for that week to the TWINS side, usually 1/2s or 1/4s. We rarely run zone cov to PRO set when in MOF because of the splits between the receivers being greater than 10. Typical rule is splits >10 then you play 1/3s or man. Playing RAM to a PRO Set allows you to be aggressive with the backer to that side, plus you get the fit from the safety if TE blocks, just have to make sure you don't get hit with the TE hot.

@@coachrj5890 bout playing a true robber Fs reading te corner all of one deep. Down safety flat

The answer is have coverage checks to certain looks so you don’t get out-leveraged. It also depends on what a team does with pro sets, do they run or pass to the TE side? This can help a 4-2 team know if they need to adjust to a pro set with the passing strength (twins side) into the boundary. If they keep the Ni to the field, which a lot of 4-2 teams do, they need to have a coverage check for twins into the boundary. Most of the time it’s man or quarters because the Will backer is in the box to fit run. If they the team throws to the twins side more and runs to the TE side out of a pro set then the defense would want to put the Ni into the boundary to help with the RPO game. That means then they would need a check for the safety and corner to the field. TE adds another gap to the run fits so you need to account for that. This is why 4-2 teams run split field coverage, so they can check to the WR set they are getting to their side based off of field and boundary and if they Ni is on their side or not.

Network of fellow high school coaches. There are some ways to get some film with subscriptions but your best bet is other coaches.

@@coachrj5890 that’s why I miss being a coach. Hard to watch football film from tv angles. Wish I had your connections.

As a standard rule we usually have the OLB walk down and cover the TE. His alignment rule is 1x2. You run into issues with having your OLB’s now have to be the spillers so we will stunt and do some things to help that out. Definitely have to rep those new fits in practice.

I appreciate the suggestion. I will see what film I can round up on them to break down.

Just PowerPoint Have a lot of templates I've used over the years that make it easy.

They run a lot of dime just don’t necessarily see them with 3 high safeties. Might see this more and more. Look for some to show up in Carolina Panthers as their DC ran that system while at Baylor.

@@coachrj5890 Do you think combining that "Big Nickel" secondary look with the Tite formation up front can work at the NFL level? I know it puts the defensive front at a disadvantage only having 3 linemen, but I like the idea of keeping an extra outside linebacker out there to counter the way Air Raid offenses exploit the flats and stretch defenses out horizontally.

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I’ll try to get out another video. I’ll do a 3-3-3 of Baylor as well.