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Will Helene damage freak out AT thru hikers in 2025?
Thanks to Hurricane Helene, large areas of the Appalachian Trail will be a mess when hikers want to hike the entire trail.
Page that links to map of roughly 200 mile section -- appalachiantrail.org/trail-updates/ga-va-tropical-storm-helene/
The map itself -- appalachiantrail.org/trail-updates/ga-va-tropical-storm-helene/
Jim Fetig, president of the Potomac Appalachian Trail Club, describes damage and cleanup effort -- thetrek.co/appalachian-trail/hurricane-helene-repairs-on-the-at-are-well-underway-trail-clubs-ask-2025-hikers-to-consider-flip-flopping/
Donations taken for recovery effort -- appalachiantrail.org/news/appalachian-trail-resiliency-fund-launched-to-accelerate-helene-recov...
Page that links to map of roughly 200 mile section -- appalachiantrail.org/trail-updates/ga-va-tropical-storm-helene/
The map itself -- appalachiantrail.org/trail-updates/ga-va-tropical-storm-helene/
Jim Fetig, president of the Potomac Appalachian Trail Club, describes damage and cleanup effort -- thetrek.co/appalachian-trail/hurricane-helene-repairs-on-the-at-are-well-underway-trail-clubs-ask-2025-hikers-to-consider-flip-flopping/
Donations taken for recovery effort -- appalachiantrail.org/news/appalachian-trail-resiliency-fund-launched-to-accelerate-helene-recov...
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Hikers report no rain gear actually works in the 2020s
Просмотров 18 тыс.Месяц назад
On Instagram in October 2024, The Trek: Appalachian Trail @appalachian.trail quoted an AT hiker as saying nobody has rain gear that actually works on the trail; with some of the comments agreeing. Flatbroke talks about approaches that might improve such a situation. I also recommend The Trek's website thetrek.co/. Those mileage per day figures are averages for the AT, by the way. Both my poncho...
When sleeping bags fail to work and what to do about it
Просмотров 1,9 тыс.7 месяцев назад
We bought a nice sleeping bag for the Appalachian Trail and everything will be fine, right? Right?? REI website on sleeping bag temperature ratings tinyurl.com/yrzb97at Sleeping pad problem-solving video ruclips.net/video/qQXimlu_OiU/видео.html Flatbrokeoutside playlists www.youtube.com/@flatbrokeoutside6921/playlists Flatbrokeoutside on Facebook profile.php?id=100063328872435 Flat...
A common and potentially dangerous problem faced by backpackers
Просмотров 2,3 тыс.9 месяцев назад
In the outdoors, an ounce of prevention can be better than 10 pounds of cure. How to set up Google news alerts www.google.com/alerts National Park Service search and rescues www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/thousands-of-national-park-visitors-need-rescue-every-year-and-its-costing-taxpayers When Flatbroke got seriously lost ruclips.net/video/NEg34FSkMg4/видео.html Navigating with map a...
A great item that most AT gear lists don't have
Просмотров 3,6 тыс.10 месяцев назад
Flatbrokeoutside playlists www.youtube.com/@flatbrokeoutside6921/playlists The whiteblaze.net forum www.whiteblaze.net/forum/ Flatbrokeoutside on Facebook profile.php?id=100063328872435 Flatbrokeoutside on Twitter (or whatever the #@$ it's called) flatbrokeoutsid
How to screw up seriously in outdoor, wilderness areas
Просмотров 1,5 тыс.Год назад
A look at Flatbroke's Outdoor Mistake Hall of Shame to reveal the mental attitudes that lead to trouble in the first place. Flatbroke's playlists www.youtube.com/@flatbrokeoutside6921/playlists Flatbrokeoutside on Twitter or whatever it's called flatbrokeoutsid Flatbrokeoutside on Facebook profile.php?id=100063328872435
Are backpackers better off with today's gear?
Просмотров 4,6 тыс.Год назад
Backpacking gear in 2023 seems to promise everything. But can it always deliver? Flatbrokeoutside on Twitter - flatbrokeoutsid Flatbrokeoutside on Facebook - profile.php?id=100063328872435 How and why Flatbroke made his own tents ruclips.net/video/tZ_eFrLrq1o/видео.html Flatbrokeoutside's playlists - www.youtube.com/@flatbrokeoutside6921/playlist
Five gross things about long-distance hiking
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.Год назад
Things can get grungy on a long-distance hike, but there are ways to deal with it. Flatbroke's playlists www.youtube.com/@flatbrokeoutside6921/playlists The PCTA on outdoor toilet habits www.pcta.org/discover-the-trail/backcountry-basics/leave-no-trace/basic-skill-pooping-four-steps/ Flatbroke on Twitter flatbrokeoutsid Flatbroke on Facebook profile.php?id=100063328872435
Hiker is legally blamed for his own emergency
Просмотров 2,8 тыс.Год назад
While unusual, a situation reported in early 2023 still has things in common with other outdoor emergencies. Backpacker Magazine article www.backpacker.com/news-and-events/news/a-hiker-started-a-wildfire-trying-to-signal-for-help-now-he-owes-the-government-300000/?Backpacker Magazine,BackpackerMag-facebook,twitter
How a fanny pack might save our tail in the wild
Просмотров 2,9 тыс.Год назад
When it comes to preventing trouble, little details can make a big difference. When Flatbroke got seriously lost ruclips.net/video/NEg34FSkMg4/видео.html Flatbrokeoutside on Twitter flatbrokeoutsid Flatbrokeoutside's play lists www.youtube.com/@flatbrokeoutside6921/playlists
Backpacking lessons from using a thin sleeping pad
Просмотров 4,4 тыс.2 года назад
Long distance hikers need to get a good night's sleep. What does it take to accomplish that? Flatbroke's playlists www.youtube.com/@flatbrokeoutside6921/playlists Flatbroke on Twitter flatbrokeoutsid
A pointless activity while backpacking
Просмотров 19 тыс.2 года назад
Some considerations for cooking our food when backpacking, particularly on high mileage, long distance trips. Flatbrokeoutside on Twitter flatbrokeoutsid
An overlooked nuisance on the Appalachian Trail
Просмотров 3,1 тыс.2 года назад
It's a problem that can be dealt with ... mostly. Flatbroke's homemade tents ruclips.net/video/tZ_eFrLrq1o/видео.html When rain on the AT is a nightmare ruclips.net/video/f_FHEzzTIVs/видео.html Flatbroke's Twitter flatbrokeoutsid Flatbroke on Facebook profile.php?id=100063328872435
The 'happy talk' fallacy on the Appalachian Trail
Просмотров 9 тыс.3 года назад
For years the number of people attempting a northbound AT thru hike has increased, and the percentage of those who succeed has fallen. What is going on? Morale and reality playlist ruclips.net/p/PLTJe9vVwbB9BugXA6YyOxWtbgB1jiOIyx Hiking for mileage playlist ruclips.net/p/PLTJe9vVwbB9BbPiGihnI1L9LlLTEEJymt Health and safety play list ruclips.net/p/PLTJe9vVwbB9BWxXPECKp3Y1EY_FkAjnqI Bonus Endurin...
When other AT hikers have trouble. Or do they?
Просмотров 4 тыс.3 года назад
Things don't always go smoothly on the Appalachian Trail, and when it happens to other hikers, sometimes we know about it. What should we do to help, if anything? Flatbrokeoutside on Facebook Flatbrokeoutside-176295672733321/?ref=bookmarks The AT Conservancy guidelines on dogs appalachiantrail.org/explore/hiking-with-dogs/#:~:text=The Appalachian Trail Conservancy pet,healthy and c...
Hiking skills come in handy during a pandemic
Просмотров 2,4 тыс.4 года назад
Hiking skills come in handy during a pandemic
Luxury items (and bad news) on the Appalachian Trail
Просмотров 9 тыс.5 лет назад
Luxury items (and bad news) on the Appalachian Trail
Cold and wet on the Appalachian Trail
Просмотров 9 тыс.6 лет назад
Cold and wet on the Appalachian Trail
Finally quit limping on the Appalachian Trail
Просмотров 3,2 тыс.6 лет назад
Finally quit limping on the Appalachian Trail
'Stealth' camping tips for the Appalachian Trail
Просмотров 14 тыс.6 лет назад
'Stealth' camping tips for the Appalachian Trail
How much fun is the Appalachian Trail?
Просмотров 5 тыс.6 лет назад
How much fun is the Appalachian Trail?
Dealing with pain on the Appalachian Trail
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Dealing with pain on the Appalachian Trail
When rain is a nightmare on the Appalachian Trail
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When rain is a nightmare on the Appalachian Trail
AT thru hike completions vlogged in 2017
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AT thru hike completions vlogged in 2017
Can we take it easy on the Appalachian Trail?
Просмотров 10 тыс.7 лет назад
Can we take it easy on the Appalachian Trail?
Lessons from Grandma Gatewood and Earl Shaffer on the Appalachian Trail
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Lessons from Grandma Gatewood and Earl Shaffer on the Appalachian Trail
Section hiking addiction on the Appalachian Trail
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Section hiking addiction on the Appalachian Trail
Ultralight gear vs. grim reality on the Appalachian Trail
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Ultralight gear vs. grim reality on the Appalachian Trail
Out of shape on the Appalachian Trail
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Out of shape on the Appalachian Trail
Backpacking in scorching hot weather (Hiking tips Pt. 51)
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Backpacking in scorching hot weather (Hiking tips Pt. 51)
using a hilltrek hybrid smock, it doesn't claim to be completely waterproof. completely waterproof gear will be like a heatbox and u'll eventually get soaked from ur own sweat
It's simple. If you turn right to go down a side trail, you turn right to get back on the trail and not head in the wrong direction. Same if you turn left, turn left to head in the right direction.
Good advice ... if I can manage to remember which way I turned! :) And thanks for watching!
When hiking in cold weather I always wear merino wool underwear, T-Shirt and sweater, and moleskin (cotton) pants and jacket. This combination keeps me warm and dry even in a light rain. In case heavy rain sets in I always carry a military style rain poncho in my backpack. I also find it important to bring a good hat in case it rains. Over time any hood of a jacket or poncho will limit your vision so much it just gets annoying, while your face still gets wet. Hats were made for rainy weather, why don't people wear them more often nowadays?
Thanks for sharing your experience and thanks for watching!
most advertising/marketing is 90 to 99% lies
I never went on the Appalachian Trail, but I used to live in West Virginia, and I know that it was always really humid there, so like you said, even when it's not raining, you can be soaked with sweat. But it also doesn't surprise me to hear that rain gear isn't working, because all clothing is getting worse and worse in quality. I believe that making clothes at home is the solution, and there aren't enough people in the USA starting their own local businesses to make clothing. That's what would be needed to guarantee that it was good quality - you won't be able to buy good clothes from any large retail stores anymore.
In 2025, I only have plans to finish my '23 thruhike attempt (from Katahdin down through Shenandoah). I might drive south of there to visit some hostels which helped me north in '23. Ramdino's channel has some content about the treadway that you might not have, and vice-versa. Thank you for your service and perspective about the social activities on the Trail. I noticed a degradation of awareness and respect of others over the nearly 50 years that I have been hiking the AT and associated trails. 🙏
good report. I live near Damascus. they are open for business and patronize shops that are open. But the damage to the trails is severe. the Virginia Creeper trail (Rail trail that shares a treadway with the AT for 2 sections) is severely damaged. In places is non existent. The trail was closed from the Tennessee line to elk garden (almost 30 miles). The sawyers have cut thru but there will need to be real work on the trail to make it stable. ALDHA held their meeting in Abingdon just after the Damage. Most of the help we did was to give aid to the people whose houses had washed away. that is also still a thing in this area. Thanks for your good reporting. The flip flop is definitely the way to go this year
Thanks for your detailed report and thanks a million for watching!
Thicker rubber won't keep you dry but will keep you warm and it holds less water then a pile of wool. Different types of rain gear is helpful. Don't be unrealistic.
I'm glad I'm not hiking that area this year. How do you see a white blaze when all the trees that the blaze was on are down or cut up? It is unreal that our government sends millions if not billions of dollars to other countries when we are running a deficit but they can't find the money needed to clean up after a disaster on a public well known trail. I had a very disappointing experience in Maryland on the AT. I was going down a steep set of stone steps and someone (a human) had taken a dump ON A STEP. What kind of person does that? Unbelievable. John
Good point about the blazes. I rely on them and it's hard to think anybody wouldn't. And thanks for watching!
so glad to see you posting again...great topics...great advice!
Glad you liked them and thanks for being a great viewer!
I think the only thing working for hiding from rain is thick rubber you make yourself like seaman or farmer. Sorry for my shit english
wool the rain gear
milsurp works and is tested to work. go for milsurp from countries with small but rich forces that go for high quality gear. british army goretex is brilliant. belgian, Netherlands, germany all do qulity boots and raincoats. commercial gear is univerally overpriced, underperforms, has poor durabilty and as this video shows, will actually work against you if you get into difficulties
Good points and thanks for watching!
How do you avoid/deal with ticks while sleeping in a floorless tent? I'm very curious since I've also considered similar setups before, but stuck to closed tents from fear of ticks
Ticks have never been known to move more than about three feet on the ground to reach a host. Marching on foot through the forest looking for victims isn't something they do. It's much more energy efficient for them to wait in ambush, usually about 15 inches off the ground in shrubbery or in the tops of grass, if tall enough. I would never recommend wading through brush or tall grass along the AT because it can easily be avoided there. For one thing, the tall hills are not conducive to either. For the same reason, I find it pretty easy to find camping spots along the AT that are free of tall grass and brush. I have found that if I pay attention to my surroundings I see many suitable places. Many! I talk about it in this video -- ruclips.net/video/4NDERevt1-k/видео.html Treating clothes and gear with permethrin will repel ticks, and it's always a good idea. If we hike with a dog, I would say it's mandatory that it be treated with insect repellent designed for dogs. Because a dog can bring ticks to us. If grass is fairly short, it's less attractive to ticks. Ticks also don't dive out of trees onto a host. They wait with a couple of legs extended, ready if something brushes against them. In national forests away from the AT, I also have found it possible avoid wading through brush and tall grass, if I pay attention. And thanks for watching.
It is always true that most gear doesn't work. You have to test everything using the scientific method!
You have a point, my friend. Long ago Colin Fletcher, who wrote multiple backpacking books, said even with the best gear somebody could get hypothermia if they don't use the gear correctly. Testing the stuff close to home -- even in the back yard -- beats nothing. And thanks for watching!
Thank you for the video.
You're welcome! And thanks for watching!
Great information. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching!
Wet gear never works properly, the question is should we expect it to ? when I was a kid I fished and hunted, and was always damp, when I was a young man I worked outdoors, and I was always damp, when I was a little older I worked somewhere hot and was always damp. From whence did I get the idea I always needed to be dry ?
Excellent point and thanks for watching!
i havent really done a big hike in a long time, but in boy-scouts we always just had those green plastic button-up ponchos.. not an amazing piece of technology but keeps water off while allowing for ventilation.. all these crazy high tech “breathable” waterproof fabrics suck and just become a sauna.. “keep it simple, stupid!”
I have found that simple can be the most reliable, yes. And thanks for watching!
Not a hiker so I can understand there may be differences but I worked outside long days in pouring rain for weeks on end. I just used a Gortex Raincoat with a hoodie underneath as a vapour layer. This wouldn't protect my legs at all but I would be warm and dry all day as my chest wouldn't get wet. Partly the warmth was from doing manual labour so I imagine if you are hiking it would be similar. Just my 2c
Thanks for sharing your experience and thanks for watching!
The ATC denied a buddy of mine the section hiker completion rocker he earned because he dared to hike some of sections during the COVID "shutdown" -- I suspect he will not be donating to the "resiliency" fund.
Tell him I said good job on his hike.
Yep, there’s some damage. It’ll take a while to repair, roads and homes have priority. Thank you for this public service announcement…from an old veteran, retired in the foothills of the Smokies.
Glad you liked the video and thanks for watching!
Good update and info! Very thoroughly explained as well.
Glad you found it helpful, and thanks for watching!
Happy New Year Flat Broke! Hope to see you on trail!
Happy New Year and thanks for watching!
Gear that sheds rains is hot and stiff to wear. A canvas duster treated for rain proof works well, but you will still get wet.
Ramdino has done long in depth videos on this subject and he has also brought on members of local clubs and shown all the work that has been done. Things from what I see are coming together very quickly and things will be fine. People hike the PCT every year and have to avoid sections because of fires every year. If I was hiking the AT this year that is how I would approach my AT. Things will be fine and everything will work out. Will there be issues sure, but no one ever said it would be easy. I plan on hiking the Colorado Trail this year and if there are issues I will just hike what is open. Check out Ramdino Hikes, he has lots of information on this very subject.
Trail volunteers have a reputation for working hard on the AT and I have seen them in action. No one should ever have any doubt about their hard work. The question -- as the ATC makes clear -- is how long is it going to take to start work on sections so far untouched, and what extra resources will it take? I like your approach to hiking and thanks for watching.
This comment is underrated. Thank you!
I imagine more funds should go towards repairing roads, replacing bridges and housing people before trail repair. I40 between Asheville and Tennessee is going to take a year and hundreds of millions of dollars. I26 between Asheville and Tennessee will take a similar amount of time and money. Erwin's hospital got destroyed. People are homeless in Western North Carolina, Southwest Virginia and Northeast Tennessee. Those should all take priority over a trail in terms of federal funding. If you value the trail, step up and volunteer.
Actually lots of people have volunteered and many people have donated money. The trail is coming along very well. The trail also helps the local economy.
If only the AT hikers actually helped to fix the trail, instead of focusing on a hike to get a worthless piece of paper. Its like all the hikers who expect trail magic, but would never create any trail magic themselves.
Many of us do. Are you angry? Ignorant? or both?
Plenty of us have and are.
I decided on a flip-flop starting in Central Virginia for 2025 for some of the very reasons you layout in this video. Plus, I was actually on the AT, in late Sept 2024, and hiked through the start of Helene's damage, just south of the Smokies. I think it will really take the trail a decade to fully recover.
Starting there as well, but had planned a flip flop long before Helene ever hit
I hope you have a great hike! Thanks for the report and thanks for watching!
How bout commissioning low level offender prisoners to do a lot of this trail work. When I fought forest fires for the forest service in California in my 20s, we were diggin line right alongside men and women prisoners. I’m skinny so some of the women prisoners liked to vocalize some of their goals and objectives with me!😅❤️😅. My fellow firefighters got a kick out of it and so did I!😁. NQU
Good video I have had luck with keeping my feet dry using the wicking sock liners used by runners (polypro?) and wool socks (not the heavy ones.) Runners have been getting wet forever. Most of my experience is doing dayhikes in the SE. I also dabbled with using trail running sandles to give my feet a break. In the summer feet and chaffing are the issues not hypothermia, so I can see just not worrying about staying dry but protecting the feet..
Good points! And thanks for watching!
I love how my favorite hiking channel (this one) has no actual video on it. Never change!
Old internet
Hey, I show video when I'm on the trail. :) This isn't my first youtube channel. It's my second. Long ago I tried tests of every approach, including talking at the camera. The only method that clearly let me pack the most amount of detail into the shortest amount of time is the one to which you refer. A lot of channels of all types have a very heavy entertainment element. Except for an occasional wisecrack, I aint very entertaining. So I try to be educational with news we can use. And thanks for being a great viewer!
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Thanks for watching!
Happy new year
Happy New Year to you, too!
Well there doing the best to clean up the mess it not a walk across the street it a trail the old time didn,t have it that great! Shut up and deal with it! It's not the the country club😊
Good points! A lot of my videos deal with nasty surprises one might experience. Social media over the years has shown a lot of people are so excited and optimist before they set foot on the AT. Just trying to keep them optimistic, or at least realistic, when they get there. And thanks for watching.
What they don't want to talk about is the contamination from the floods, but apparently that's a controversial subject. People should look into it to determine what safety measures they want to take while hiking a contaminated trail.
Especially research water quality INCLUDING the difference between a 'filter' and a 'purifier' and what contaminants are removed by each vs what contaminants have been added by the storm to those particular watersheds and aquifers.
Shared! Thank you!
Glad you liked it and thanks for sharing!
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year!
Happy New Year to you, too!
I switched to umbrellas many years ago and never looked back. Shell gear is over-priced and under-performs.
“The AT is an inherently inconvenient place.” lol great description.
Glad you liked it and thanks for watching!
What the F'.. this is a surprise. a good one mind. I could watch the backlist all over again. thanks for posting made my day.
Glad you liked it and thanks for watching!
I mean, umbrellas work for me.
Poncho and a hat, my friends. But if you are moving in the rain, you will get wet...so a change of dry clothes in pack covered by a rain fly is probably better.
Reject nylon, embrace tradition (miserable but warm Scottish highlander wool lmao)
The only rain gear I really like is Thorogood (formerly NEOS or New England Overshoes) or my waterproof boots, rain pants, and a rain cape with a water repellant hat. I'm a former great plains letter carrier, so I have torture tested a ton of gear and shoe leather. Keeping your feet dry is critical, hence the overshoes. Rain pants and a rain cape are the lightest rain gear I can wear so I don't sweat so much I defeat the purpose, and rain leggings help keep your socks dry.
Thanks for sharing your experience and thanks for watching!
If anyone is in comment section is sick of goretex you should try paramo! I’ve stayed much drier this winter in comparisons to last year. For ref I’m a gardener in the uk, if I went home when I got wet I’d be unemployed
I don't mind getting soaked, I just hate the process of getting wet. I bet most of the complaints come from just bad gear, the cheap rain suits, that are basically plastic bags where you are really getting wet from your own perspiration condensing on the interior of the rain suit.
Don't buy raingear from the USA or from China. They are manufactured by the lowest bidder. Try northern Europe. Scandinavian countries. They know how to do raingear.
Nothing else than good old pvc or oilskin-wear, keeps the rain out. I have some gear that I only wear for certain lighter conditions, and some other that I know exactly what their properties are. So it's kind of specially chosen for, when used. It's just common sense. Lightweight rain gear that are advertised today, Never has and never work and never gonna work. And the companies are lying bigger and bigger to cover their stock value, as they promise more and more, while the tech keeps getting better and better fooling absolutely everyone. It's only the SO-ME-generation that keeps complaining, because they simply feeding off of the notion that everything is easy and everything is supposed to work as advertised and as they say. Well, you've officially got Punked ppl! )=
I've not hiked the Appalachian Trail, but I've always thought waterproof layers are best for when it's really truly cold and wet- that extra layer of protection isn't perfect but it keeps that much more water from freezing off you, and it makes drying your clothes slightly easier.
Good point and thanks for watching!