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I think I should have just played for board control more, instead of trying in vain to kill vanguard. As you can see it was actually pretty close at the end, I think with better NCU usage things could have turned out a bit different.

The Cotter list can loose, i can confirm that having played it many times, but it is a very forgiving list for sure. There's a lot of defensive tech to keep it kicking for a long time, it's got the mobility that makes sure that any positionning mistakes can be corrected, and the aggression necessary to be dangerous at every level of wounds remaining. Winning against it usually requires some elements between (or combination of) really high damage lists, surprise retaliation (such as final strike), activation advantage or tactic cards prevention (counterplot)

Thanks! I'm sure we'll find more opportunities soon. Keep an eye and ear out for more

You build your 40 pt list as normal. You then get 4 free pts for attachments to spend

@romangeneral14 nailed it, the list building is standard 40 points, then you can add up to 4 points of attachments after the fact. So far in testing, I've found I'm playing a lot more fun 5 and 6 point units to have a home for the attachments I want to use, and 2pt attachments don't feel like a liability.

@@romangeneral14 Can some attachments still come out of the 40 pts? Or are you only allowed 4pts of attachments?

Yes! You can use your normal 40 points for anything you want, including attachments.

@ you can do what you like so long as 4 of the 44 pts are attachments

Hello from the Garden State of New Jersey! Thanks for tuning in, its great to be building this little community - Adam from the Broken Banners

Whoops 😅 I think I can get that fixed relatively easily. Good catch! Yea the healing was brutally good as is, I can imagine if you get NHWHE on multiple units early it can be a bit insurmountable.

Yes you can my friend, it is in the S5 FAQ.

@samualstohl2451 has it, they clarified that you can use a card to reroll a 1 for charges. If you reroll into another 1 though, that's that.

Do you feel you got a lot of value from Satin? Im always so hesitant to spend the point on him.

We actually use a pretty extensive list of tags, including "asoiaf" "battle report" and "asoiaf battle report." I think RUclips hates us because we don't want to put ads on our videos. -Esad

I think so. Targaryens are very mobile but they are also extremely fragile, plus the scorpion is much more threatening against cavalry. Being outflanked protects the ranger hunters from the token dump targaryens have become notorious for, and unless they can take two ranks off the ranger hunters in one go they still have a very significant threat against most everything. Especially with pyke aggression in the deck, dragons are at a high risk of getting one shot.

Thats great input, thank you! I think he might still struggle, between othell, the objective shots, and the scorpion I think he might have still gotten whittled away enough that cotter could break through the front door. But that would have probably been closer.

@@BrokenBanners yeah. And I just had a game this evening that I lost in part to being TOO clumped up so that my sentinel charges failed because there was no room! So it's possible to err too much the other way...

Most bang for buck position of Outriders is really in the center so that there is a higher chance you can pull off the Tactical Reposition shenanigans.

The differences between free folk and terminids are surprisingly few

I think thats probably a good start. The scorpion didnt really do anything but the threat of it helped get the ranger hunters into a dominant position.

Yea I sent them off on their lonesome didn't I? double brazen beasts was definitely fun, I might try that in another shell, just maybe not with grey worm attachment.

Thank you for clarifying. I did not make clear that firing into melee *when you have one token to start* is a replenishing loop.

@@Alkeseltze one unit of Brazen Beasts is bad enough, two is just unethical lol.

Barristan Selmy can't cancel Selyse & Shireen's once per game as it doesn't target (because the ability doesn't let you choose a specific unit out of multiple possible targets, it's not a tactics card or order that mentions the unit or belongs to the unit, and the word "target" is not used). If Selyse & Shireen would be somehow canceled then you could use the ability later that round to save a unit because it also cancels the "once per game" part.

@@jpjankala3454 thanks! Yeah we figured it out after the fact in the BB discord. Been at this game for a year now and I'm still learning how different interactions work. At least I know for the future. Thanks again for taking the time to get into how that interaction works

Half of the challenge of using Barristan properly is knowing what Barristan can interact with! Thanks for the explanation, no one caught it until we started discussing that play much later.

It definitely makes my non-rerolling archer unit even less efficient, 100%.

For what it's worth, I'm yelling at myself too, not sure what I was looking at or thinking when I didn't just go for the charge there. 😅

I've been on the receiving end of double sentinel enough that I jumped at the chance to try it out for myself.

Glad you enjoyed. Part of the draw to Targs for me was the diverse cast of units, it was fun to try and showcase other units for a change.

He’s really good, played against him many times.

I've only played him once or twice before this, and I was pretty impressed after the game. Definitely will try and find more lists to run him in after this!

Nope, he just was using fancy pokemon cards as stand ins for his NCUs! It was fun

Same here! - Esad

Brotherhood has such an excellent, versatile toolkit, I think we're going to see a lot of awesome combinations with them.

Thank you! I hope the community is as excited for Brotherhood as I am! -Esad

I played against him last night as well and got blown up by some final strikes; the scales are balanced. Always fun to play with Ryan! -Esad

No, in the 2021 edition of the rules (current edition) an NCU MUST have a tactics board zone that they can claim. Even in Here We Stand, where an NCU can take a spot on the tactics board, they must have a spot on the Tactics Board available. -Esad

Yes solos count wounds remaining for ranks. I’m very happy you enjoyed the game :)

Funny enough I don’t think their offensive power is an issue. People often cite to that as the issue but they’re not the hardest hitting unit in the game, not by a long shot. I think the issue is To The Last is too much on them and is too big of a “list check.” That strong of a defensive ability on such an offensive unit is insane and I think with Brotherhood without Banners on the horizon we’ll truly see what King’s Men are capable of. I am adamantly of the opinion that To The Last should be replaced with Relentless. -Esad

@@BrokenBanners that TTL is there so KM wont get oneshoted. We have such aggressive meta (Victorian SM, Gregor CRHG, Pyke, Khal) that TTL is required, as they dont have any other defensive ability.

Hard to disagree with that. Season 5 may not be as bad as Season 3 and the Golden Company Swords meta but there are still so many commander-unit combos that consistently kill a unit in two attacks. Maybe I'm just bitter that Rose Knights still suck. -Esad

Thank you! Always happy to get a game in against Ryan. Good luck to everyone who gets him at Nationals! -Esad

You are notorious for failing charges; even 2+ charges are (generally) a challenge for your Baratheons so it was great to have a game where you nailed so many charges. I think this game, and the way you played it, is a great lesson for anyone interested in competitive play. Everyone will make "that" mistake, or miss "that" roll and put the game in a losing position. Being able to pull it back and at least make it a closer game is huge for tournament scoring. I've seen many a player edge out the difference between third and second based on that kind of play, and a few times even the difference between first and second! -Esad

Glad you like them! We will keep on making them! 😎

Thank you! I'd like Stannis a lot better if he wasn't Stannis, but was instead the better (surviving) brother. No rose knights, no interest. -Esad

I was waiting for you to see this. I hope it’s everything you wanted!

Upon further review, you are correct. Thank you!

@@BrokenBanners Sure thing. There were also some charging alignment issues, but I don't think they impacted the outcome of the game. Fun battle report -- well done!

I was like, there is no way it could happen. Insane stuff

I appreciate it!

Its an interesting dynamic. Threaten and some other tools available to targ drastically improve the survivability of a dragon, especially when fire made flesh is factored in. They bring a lot of unmitigatable damage on a unit that essentially doesnt take panic damage. But I think we’re seeing a lot of tools coming out with other factions that help keep it in check. Baratheons have gained some mobility and damage consistency, combined with the infamous final strike. Starks have a lot of alpha strike still and with their mobility I think even with one of (but not multiple) of a targ player’s tools a dragon can get beat up. I agree that with all of the tools available its very difficult to kill a dragon. I think control elements are going to become more and more important as factions, including targs with MOD, gain access to some really powerful and hard to deal with units. I want to get some more games in against dragons with not-Renly 2 and see how it fairs, as well as some nights watch. I think MOD buffs are nice but I dont think they pass drogo… yet

Yes! fortunately that doesn't affect too much, but you're right. Good eye!