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I did it with the forcing option but it wasnt better - only what u have to do is to read and follow the log file recommended tasks. In my case I had to flip the phase.

No. I’ve also neighbours but u also have in more modern Marantz the option that the LFE will be controlled not to go through walls.

Read the logfile - there will be an info why it stopped.

Better have for that cost. I’ve got plenty of very happy users. Sorry it didn’t produce as good results for you. What was your biggest complaint?

The lack of a prompt at the end could mean that it automatically put it in your Downloads folder/section of your browser. Check there!

I need to manually save in my android phone. But I can export in my multi eq app. It say wrong formation. And 1 of my friend did redo again and send me via email. From my email I can't save it. 🥲

Are you running Evo or the old script? You could try using different curves like the old Toole one.

I have put a list of supported AVRs in the video description. It is a list based on the receivers supported by the Audyssey MultEQ Editor app. Check there as well (Apple App Store or Google Play Store) for the supported AVRs.

Google Play has this app as `MultiEQ Editor ` works fine with my Marantz SR 6012

Did you turn the API on in REW? Are you now using Evo?

That’s just a warning. Did it proceed and finish? Have you checked out the new Evo version? It’s even better!

Are you moving back the “optimized” ADY file? Some systems also don’t like to read the files from the Downloads folder on your device. Try moving the file to the root of your device’s file system and see if you can load it.

Did you turn on the API in REW?

@@ReedBotwright Yes of course, port 4735

Are you running it in the Chrome or Firefox (and not Safari) browsers? Do you see any progress in the black box below the optimize button?

@@ReedBotwright I use Google Chrome, progress stops at 23:30:42 [LOG] Transposing measurements from '8' different microphone positions to the primary listening position.... The only thing is when I add curves to REW a window pops up: Note that the default Mic/Meter and Soundcard Calibration files are not applied to imported impulse responses, to apply Cal Data to an imported response use the "Change cal" action on the teasurement panel.

@IRONWATER Did you up the max number of measurements in REW? Without changing their settings above the default 50 or so, not all of your measurements get imported in REW and A1 chokes up. If that’s not the case (as in you’ve already set that to 300 or so), feel free to email me you ADY file at reedbotwright @ gmail.com

Unfortunately, there appears to be a small minority of users who have mixed or poor results from this script. The foundations of how this script works are very sound. I don’t go into them a whole lot here as my focus is to help people through the process, but OCA does a better job in his video. You can also directly investigate the code to see what is happening. All that being said, it’s a hack. The script tries to take advantage of the processing power of REW and stuff its results into the Audyssey format (that’s why the curves look weird). It gets it very right a remarkable amount of time, but unfortunately not 100% of the time. I’m more than happy to troubleshoot with you why the script may not work for you because I have directly helped scores of people and heard their praise of the results. Just let me know! It’s definitely not a joke!

@@ReedBotwright sorry for late reply, Reed. I was very frustrated when I wrote this 🫣 Some thought why it might have failed for me: - Closed, but very powerful sub (ELAC 3070) - Position not very good (rear area, midst between the rear speakers of a 7.1.2 setup - Partially optimized living room 4x6m, not a home cinema room 4 passive bass traps, 2 active bass traps (PSI AVAA) - Antimode 8033 s-lI in LFE line - LFE line partially wireless (delay?) even though the sub is only 2,5 meters away, Audessey XT32 always use the highest distance value possible. I have now eliminated many of these possible obstacles. I purchased a NUBERT XW-900 medium size open downfire sub with is small enough to fit between my front speakers (the ELAC was to gigantic for this). Wired connection, but still with Antimode (in this room, I cannot go without it) First test shows/hears an improvement compared to "before" even without A1. As soon as I have finishes initial setup with XT32, I will give A1 a 2nd chance and tell you the results. Thanks and CU later, Celsi

@@celsi5563 Thanks for the update! Yeah, we all have challenges in our setups. I have a livingroom setup too. Have you tried the new A1 Evo v1.4? It was released yesterday. It requires REW Beta 33, so keep that in mind.

​​​@@ReedBotwright ​ New Feedback: - Bought a new Sub (NUBERT XW-900, bass reflex, downfire, smaller size, significantly less powerful than my former, closed ELAC 3070). This smaller sub fits into the front next to the main front speakers (NUBERT 284) where sub belongs. Antimode 8033 s2 is still in use, but now LFE line is completely wired, no RF anymore. I made a new Antimode messurement, then a new Audessey meassurement and ran it through A1. Despite having read your comment about new A1evo, I used 1.3. There was an update for 1.3 one week ago, and I thought this was "evo". When I realized it wasn't, it was too late 🙂 Still, even 1.3 seems to like my new setup better now than the old one. First it sounded "terrible" again regarding the bass, but after I adjusted the crossovers back to the values which the Audessey meassurement had initially set (A1 set them all to 80Hz) and reactivated DynamicEQ (A1 deactivated it), it sounded quite good. ❔But question: is it a good idea to reverse these decisions of A1? My thought is: if I change "optimized" settings in such a drastic way, does the optimization itself still make sense? I now try to put into words which changes I noticed between standard meassurement (before) and A1 meassurement (after): - Clarity of speech has improved (very important for me, because I watch everything in EN but it is not my native language, I need to listen very careful - low freqencies were a little bit reduced. Explosions, shots, spaceship flyby sounds, all seemed to be less "grumbling" than before, less powerful. I could "fix" this with increasing LFE channel in the AVR by 2db. - Surround effects have significantly increased. The feeling of being in the middle of the action has improved. Side surround speakers and rear speakers (7.1.2 setup) are far more active than before. Is that what is to be expected from A1? I read so many happy comments about A1 having improved the sound significantly, but nobody was going into details what exactly has improved, compared to "before". Thank you for your time and patience with a beginner. P. S. After some more testing: In 3 of my 5 usual test scenarios I like the A1 calibration better than the standard calibration: - THE EXPANSE, S02E01, 1st scene, starship flyby and 2nd scene Bobby Draper battle training on Mars Later, fight between Amos and Miller in the canteen of Rocinante - THE 5th ELEMENT, main menue background sound effects - SONS OF ANARCHY S06E05: Club house explosion - INTERSTELLAR rocket lauch is still to do, for this I need to wait until my neighbors have left the house 😄 But the A1 calibration does not seem to be suitable for Music, can anybody confirm this? Sounds terrible, sounds "sqished", like mash (I hope these words make any sense in EN)

Yes, it does! Works with all AVRs that support the Audyssey MultEQ Editor mobile app on iOS or Android.

@@ReedBotwright I did it, and saved new ady file but when I tried to put it on Multeq editor app it says: "The specified file is not located in the devices local storage or is not a proper curve file"?

@@edindzk Oh, that old chestnut. That seems to be related to the location of the file. If you downloaded it to your device into the Downloads folder, this error usually goes away when you move the file to another location. Give that a try!

@@edindzk That's usually because the file is in your Downloads folder on your device. Try moving the file to another location, like the root, on your phone/tablet.

Definitely let me know how it compares. The newer version is coming out soon, which may help with your subwoofer situation.

When you say your speakers have built in subs, are they powered? Also, what exactly do you mean you wired the subs with the LFE cables?

@@davidcrandon2329 Yes they are powered Speakers. They have an LFE on each speaker to wire sub into sub out in AVR

Safari doesn't seem to work with this script. We're not sure exactly why but all other major browsers (Chrome, Firefox, Edge) seem to work. I would use those instead. Also, some browsers will automatically put the results file (ADY file extension) into the Downloads location/section. If you can't find it right away, check there.

Thanks for that! Yeah, I’ve seen others do that too. Very helpful!

I leave the settings as is. A1 essentially overrides the entire original configuration. I enable DEQ but that can be set manually in your AVR anyways. You can put a curtain on your sub channel to minimize EQ in case you run an external DSP, but I don’t mind the EQ A1 applies.

You can let DEQ turned of that’s where u immediately see the impressive work it did by just calibrate it right. Further it recommend not to turn it on - just read at the end carefully the result logfile there will be anything you need to know or to do.

How so? I talk to people in these comments, on forums, on several Facebook groups about their experiences with A1. I even set up a Facebook group specifically to help users. Yes, some struggle with the technical aspects of setting up and using the A1 script. No one I've talked to has expressed that A1 has "messed up" their systems. Worst case scenario, people can send the original ADY file back to their receiver for the pre-A1 calibration. The majority of the users I've spoken to have been blown away by the tweaks by OCA as much as I have. Do you have evidence to back up your claims?

Did you find out what caused the errors? I’m looking to try this out.

There are some technical challenges for a minority of user, varying from file movement and locking issues to a known issue with people who didn’t have centre speakers or subwoofers. Others had issues using Direction Mode for subs on the newer Denon/Marantz. Almost all of these are solved, and the results are even better, on the new Evo version!

I've seen that error before and it is usually an environment setup issue and I don't know a fix to it. If you want to send me your original ADY file, I can take a look at it for you! My email is my full name (as in the one I use for this channel) at Gmail dot com. You can also look for me on Facebook. Let me know if you send it as I may have to check my Spam folder or Message Requests.

Have you tried the new Evo version? I think OCA has cleared up this issue in the new version.

@@ReedBotwright Hi Reed, I did managed to get the original version of A1 to work, but the result was not very good. All the levels were significantly lowered and the cross-overs set at THX which really doesn't work well in my environment. I'll try A1 Evo and see if it's better, beats manually calibrating each speaker with a miniDSP UMIK-1 and REW. Thanks for the follow-up.

Sorry you had trouble with this. I'm glad we were able to connect on Facebook and get things sorted! So glad you enjoy the results too! :D

@ReedBotwright Thank you going over it again slowly myself I understood it in the end! Thanks for your help I love the results. Cleaner, clearer detailed sound great 3d bubble of sound! Just bought Bushardt S400 mk 2 -speakers for LRC channels so sounds amazing!

Sorry for the late reply! Yes, this has a great impact on stereo imaging and clarity. I play with upsampling and basic stereo, and A1 makes everything sound better! I’ve given up on separate presets because of A1!

@ReedBotwright NP, thanks for the reply. Yea, I have altered back and forth now for a while, and no matter how much I try to get the standard Audyssey calibration to sound as good (my ears have during the past 3 years got used to it and thought it was outstanding, I have a treat room as well) I have come to the conclusion that A1 is superior. Listen to this, after spending 1h with music in A1 mode, I switched back to my old Audyssey calibration, and the things that sounded so good with clarity and dynamics previously, now came forth as artifact in the silver lining, an unnatural sound best described as artificial. I mean, sure, I know what I want, and I like clarity, but the way A1 presents music, it all comes down to the speaker itself, and boy, do they shine now. Triangle Australe EZ. Thanks again, Reed. Oh, and movies are on a whole different level. OMG!! Take care. Br from Sweden.

Martin, you should check out the new Evo version! It will blow you mind again!

​@@ReedBotwright ohh.. thanks for the info 🎉

Glad you liked my goofiness! Good question about the measurement points. I have played with lots of techniques and reads tons on it. And most doesn’t seem to matter, especially with respect to the A1 results. The tolerances aren’t that granular, so I’ve given up on worrying too much about it. I even ran the “one position” technique where you just leave the mic in one spot for all 8 positions and didn’t really notice an improvement or difference. That being said, others have heard improvements for multiple positions in their home theatre by spreading out further and varying the height of the mic.

just use the raw file as is. Audyssey One will modify volume and x-overs

As @hiramb7956 mentioned, you can usually leave the file as-is. The only thing you might want to do is either a) make changes to the curtain on the sub in the case where you have a DSP device like the miniDSP 2x4HD EQ-ing the multiple subs (but only if you don't want A1 to also apply its EQ), and/or b) double check the levels with an external SPL (which you can also change after pushing the optimized ADY to your receiver). Otherwise, I leave my optimized ADY as OCA intended it! :D

Wel i have to same Denon x3700h , sad to hear, 😢, did you fixed it , or do you say leave it and use the normal calibration?

Yes, the script applies a minimum crossover of 80 Hz, although you can check the logs and set them lower (not recommended). The errors in REW are typcial and only indicate that you want to set up your sound card if you are using REW for other measurements. The errors don’t impact A1. The output may be quieter because the levels were set lower and/or the script cut a bunch of peaks during EQ. You may want to re-run your sweeps in the app and run the ADY against the script again. I had a mis-read in the app during one of my numerous runs that made one too height speakers extremely loud and the rest very quiet.

I've seen that error before and it is usually an environment setup issue and I don't know a fix to it. If you want to send me your original ADY file, I can take a look at it for you! My email is my full name (as in the one I use for this channel) at Gmail dot com. You can also look for me on Facebook. Let me know if you send it as I may have to check my Spam folder or Message Requests.

I am having the same error but on C speaker. Have you figured out a solution to this yet? I have even tried the newest beta version of REW and still getting the same results.

Did either of you get through this error? I've seen that error before and it is usually an environment setup issue and I don't know a fix to it. If you want to send me your original ADY file, I can take a look at it for you! My email is my full name (as in the one I use for this channel) at Gmail dot com. You can also look for me on Facebook. Let me know if you send it as I may have to check my Spam folder or Message Requests.

@@ReedBotwright Thanks Reed. I'll shoot you over an email this weekend if I can. I've tried all sorts of settings and still no luck. I have a feeling it might be an issue with the multeq app itself. I'm on an iphone too so I can't go back to an older version.

@@beeradicalfowla I'll keep an eye out for your email! Thanks!

​@@ReedBotwrightI did have success finally and it was due to the MultiEq app and Android. Once I downgraded the app and redid the calibration everything went perfectly. Time to enjoy my system once again, so far sounding very good. Much more immersive and my subs are blending very nicely. Thank you so much for doing this video it was a huge help

You have to use the REW Beta Version (v5.40 Beta 21) that is linked in Audyssey One.

Did you get the beta release? Did you get it running?

@@ReedBotwright Yea, but I needed to reinstall with Revo Uninstaller before it showed up. There was also this error: "FR bass response is below target throughout the range!" Another reinstalls fixed that problem too. My system sounds wonderful now :)

Good question! I find the results in A1 to be very close to the results from this MultEQ-X/REW technique. And because A1 is a much simpler process, I much prefer it.

@@ReedBotwright G'day Reed Thanks mate for your reply yep I agree that the simplicity is better! His working on another version at the moment he said which will support better results. Are you planning on trying Joe n tells True Target App?? I would but the cost is way too much for me, I'd like to see many more reviews in time to sway me!

@@nedkulic2164 I really wanted to try True Target but I can’t stomach the cost. I think the pricing missed the mark, especially when you have so many great free tools like Audyssey One and REW. I’d love to hear and compare Magic Beans with A1.

@@ReedBotwright Hi Reed totally agree, the cost for me would mean both True Target and MultiEqx PC I have been checking Discord channel there has only been one additional review since its release. There is a Aussie who was a Beta tester who Actually put me onto A1 I'm going to ask him to do a comparison between the two True Target vs A1, I will post back here the results!

I’ve used Dynamic EQ with A1 quite a bit. It’s very effective for low-volume bass boosting, just as with regular Audyssey. I do find that I use DEQ less overall because A1 integrates my subs better. So there that.

All credit goes to OCA! He’s the man!

So great to hear! I only have a humble $5,000 system but I wholeheartedly agree. Such an astounding improvement. Thanks for sharing! OCA is a god!

Hi Reed, a quick few questions because I have a aligned sub curve with the minidsp using REW I actually disconnected it and ran them both via the amp following your steps. Did A1 do the alignment in A1? Or would connecting thr dsp back it fault the optimised Setup? Also I have no sound when selecting Flat🙄 for what ever reason just reference has sound. ... And did you level match your speakers to 75db once completed A1? Cheers Ned

@@nedkulic2164 No, I didn’t level match after A1. Although it only uses the stock Audyssey mic, I find the levels after A1 to be good. I have more subs than outputs on my Denon X6700 so I left my DSP alone and applied A1 using it. I have tried it with and without having EQ on my DSP, and prefer to disable EQ on my DSP and let A1 handle it.

@@nedkulic2164 Flat after A1 is set to be without any EQ. You shouldn’t hear no sound, but the effects of A1 should be removed.

50.000$ without Dirac already? 😅

I couldn’t get to work on Mac. I’ve got boot camp on my Mac so switched to windows and worked straight away. Just watching return of the Jedi speeder bike scene as a trial and it’s worth the effort.

Are you running the REW Beta 21? I’ve heard issues with Safari browser with the script. Have you tried in Chrome or Firefox?

@@ReedBotwright Chrome worked out perfectly. Thank you.

@@yo_g72 Great to hear! Not sure why but Safari doesn't play nice with the script.

Sorted it. It’s worth the effort. Big improvement

Great! Yeah, I’ve sourced the beta and there is a link to the Mac version of REW on a forum somewhere, but version 21 is harder to find. If anyone else is reading this, let me know if you need the Mac REW beta 21!

Mac version would just stop at an error after a minute so every time. Windows worked first time. Thanks for the video :)

@@ReedBotwrightWould love to know how/where to get the beta 21 version for the MacOS for A1 stopped with an error when I use the current beta for MacOS. Thanks in advance!

@@enchanutube I had to scour to find it, but here it is: drive.google.com/file/d/1DjzVX8O6VyFxbsrm8EecM52vekOCbIIc/view?usp=drive_link

You can go into the Levels in the Audyssey manual configuration in your settings and change them to be louder. If you have an SPL meter or an SPL meter app on your phone, you can match them to a reference 75 dB of your main speakers. Many will do this across all of their speakers anyways, just to ensure the levels are all the same. You can do this by going into the levels and choosing one of your mains (usually the left) and turning up the volume until the SPL meter shows 75 db. Then match all of your other levels up or down based on that. Some will bump their subs for extra punch above 75, others choose their centre to be above 75 to have better vocal clarity in music and dialogue, while other take their heights above 75 to be more immersed. Be careful with boosting too much as it can both reduce your overall headroom (max volume) and break the balance with the rest of the speakers. Good luck and let me know how it worked!

Weirdly, the REW beta versions (at least the newest ones) are linked in this forum post: www.avnirvana.com/threads/rew-api-beta-releases.12981/ As discussed in the Facebook group thread, the new MAC beta should work, otherwise you may have to procure a previous beta version. It looks like OCA is wrestling with the API changing with beta releases so not all versions of the A1 script will necessarily work with all versions of the beta.

The app is not without its flaws, but it's the gateway for this optimization. OCA's Supreme Audyssey Calibration bypasses the app but is much more involved. Did you try it out?

Ha! No way. I would put it on the ceiling if I could. And it sounds amazing.

Did you unzip them first? You can then drag-and-drop or click Open in REW.

Your miniDSP is still very useful! You may want to disable EQ in it and let A1 handle flattening it to the Toole curve. I have a Dayton Audio DSP-408 for my multiple subs and it worked quite well with A1, although I’m about to re-do my A1 with the 408’s EQ disabled to let A1 handle the duty. In other words, your miniDSP should be good with A1 in either case!

I re-did my A1 and disabled all EQ in my DSP-408. A1 handled it quite well! I would recommend trying that to compare.

Did you download the latest one (version 1.3X) from OCA’s video? The newest version addresses some bass issues that others have had. I’ve also had to bump my bass in the levels up 3-5 dB with every version since 1.2.