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Without seeing the problem in person. I would guess you need to "check spacer gap" if you find the Bandit Anatomy link here. It is the section of pdf file that is low left on the page. www.twentytwodesigns.com/tech.html Or... I suggest contacting 22 Designs they will be able to figure it out for you

There is not a hole to loop the leash through like on Outlaw binding. You also will need to make the decision to use or not use the brake when mounting the binding. You cannot take the brakes off without removing the binding from the ski

Yes I have skied the freeride. Biggest difference would be the Bandit pivot point flexes more underneath the ball of your foot. Vs. freeride flexes very close to the toe. I would also say the 22 designs bindings engage the springs quicker than the freeride.

@@TeleTayTVthanks a lot for the answer

Yes I have had some wear above the tech inserts from Bandits... I was concerned about it right away, but it hasn't seemed to get any worse?

@TeleTayTV Yup that's it! Bunch of us are seeing exactly same thing happening. I guess it's non issue as long it doesn't affect tech inserts and toe cage fitment. Thanks again! Have great one!

Glad you are stoked on them! I think the more direct connection to the ski is a huge upgrade!

@TeleTayTV for sure and thanks for producing content. Have a great season!

Yeah if you've already got your skis with inserts at -5cm or so from center... Most of my skis are mounted at like -9cm. It is manageable, but I am so familiar with where the sidecut is on those particular skis that I will plan on remounting. What boots are you using? I have never had an Outlaw/Bandit just "come off".

@@TeleTayTV TX Pro (last version) and mostly Moment skis mounted on big triangle and Rustler 10 +2, ARV 106 on rec. I like to ski with bindings free so I can make quicker turns in trees and not drive tips down in pow. Spring compression on 1 and the inner springs removed. Yeah, suddenly having binding opened...sucked. Without leashes would've had skis airborne. 22D customer service is awesome. Advised they had a batch of bad springs and sent me a few.

@@theskilawyer Glad that 22D took care of you!

Is this why a bunch of my yellow springs are mysteriously shorter than my other yellow springs? And why 22D has a new spring design and they are black (for standard)? Now you got me all paranoid I'm going to lose a ski

@ Yes. Bad batch. I ski with minimal preload so the consequences of bad springs are heightened. If you dial up preload 3+ probably less danger. But if you have shorter spring - it’s a dud.

Yeah I will be sharing my thoughts in detail later this season! When I got them in late November "Don't talk about them" was my instructions... but then they got leaked, so it's semi public information. I will probably be waiting until the official release from Scarpa... but they pack a serious punch. I have been very happy with them so far.

Should be a good option for patrollers. Where are you working/skiing at? I have not experienced icing or a pre release, but in Utah we are blessed with quite dry snow.

@ Mad River Glen in central Vermont. I like that the solution to the problem is to move west. It’s especially a problem early season when I’m making snow and checking guns on skis.

Thanks for watching! Yeah definitely a lot of us in bounds tele skiers. Hope you have a great season!

Yeah of course! Slightly annoying, but if you are just hard mounting (no inserts) it should be a non issue to remount with over 1cm of difference between the two sets of holes.

I personally have not... but yes they can wear out. I find I am not as hard on gear as some other tele skiers. Easy to replace if you need though.

😂 you know it! If you are a resort skier... look no further.

Thank you! I've got about 30 days on the new TX Comps. They're really good... more on that topic later this season!

C’mon teletay, tell us how good

@@Onboardwithfrankie603 I will be sharing more detailed thoughts! When I got them in late November "Don't talk about them" was my instructions... but then they got leaked, so it's semi public information. I will probably be waiting until the official release from Scarpa... but they pack a serious punch. I have been very happy with them so far.

Thank you!

Thank you! "Tele butter" is what I have always called it. I would say it's more like a 360 vs skiing switch... but switch tele turns are 🔥

Thank you! Glad the new boots are working for you! I hope you have plenty of good turns this season!

weapons of choice were a custom layup 105mm underfoot ski... (could have been wider). Outlaw X from 22 Designs and the new TX Comp!

Well... it makes sense to use these boots if you want to telemark. You can definitely walk uphill with a pin binding and Scarpa F1 boots.

A day to remember for sure!

Thank you! No doubt that Scarpa makes a great product that can last hundreds of days. I can work on a comparison video this season. But if you are skiing on the old TX (3 buckles) the new TX Comp would feel almost infinitely stiffer. You'd probably be most happy replacing with TX Pro... who knows but maybe we could get an even softer version to flesh out a full lineup of NTN boots.

I have not experienced that. Has that happened to you on touring days? or resort days?

@ any pow day or spring corn or mank. Ive never had another boot allow as much moisture into shell as txp.

@@theskilawyer what size boots? The boots are built so that the "scaffo" (lower shell) is one size per (26.5/27.0 ex) but cuffs and tongues are used on typically 2 shell sizes. Maybe something about boot size has different fit on the cuff and tongue?

@ 285

I added tape for gap between shell/cuff and heated it. I think then way the front buckle shell overlap is shallow is also an intrusion point. Ive discussed with others that have same issue. When liners wet, especially spring, liner grips shell and doesnt compress normally. End up with toe bang shwaggle

New liner is definitely thinner... weird one on the climbing wires. Is it just lined up weird on the rubber lugs of the sole?

That’s what I thought I saw

Yes! More on those coming this winter!

@@robertpartridge9450 You saw correctly!

@@TeleTayTV Super Stoked for the COPM review! Thanks for continuing to put out good info into the tele community!

I have used a couple different liners. Stock liner is fine. My powerwrap in my old TX Comps would probably fit okay, but needs to be re cooked. A wrap liner out of the old T-Race boots works well. I think I am going to order one of the new "9mm Downhill Wrap" from Intuition and give that a go.

Completely agree with you on that. I’m running the Voile Transit with the softie springs and like the softer flex springs over the stiff springs with the new boot. Feels very similar to my T2/Switchback/Axls and seems easier to ski in powder but plenty active for my taste and less tiring.

Thank you! Yeah I actually did the same and backed my spring tension off a bit with the new TX Pro. I think it is important to try and match the spring tension with the flex of the boots. Bandits are awesome! That is the next gear talk video in my queue.

Thank you! Yes new Comp. They pack a serious punch. I have been really liking them🔥

Thanks for watching! Were you skiing on the T2 boots before? I haven't experienced any snow making its way to my liners though. I have been experimenting with a couple different liners though?

@ Yep I was skiing the T2s before. I was on Axl and switchbacks. Now using the Voile Transit with the new Tx Pros. I’m over 200lbs so I can flex the boot pretty easily as why I think it feels like my T2s but a bit stiffer after breaking them in. For my liner, I have just used the stock liner that came with boots. I might try another liner to see if I have problems with snow going into the boots. Only happens when breaking trail in deep snow on my last ski. So might be worth trying different buckle tension and another liner with more volume next time around.

Have you tried your 2.0 boots with the Powerwrap liner? I noticed those watching your review in the 4 buckle tx pros. That liner makes a HUGE difference... way more volume in the cuff = tighter compared to the stock tongue liner. I would also say wrap stiffens up the cuff flex a fair amount?

@ I have not, but I love the wrap liner on other boots- I also noticed the spoiler can be raised- we probably need a video on this. I think it might be cool to use a ratchet strap as a booster strap- the issue I seem to have is that I can’t get the booster strap tight enough easily and so when it flexes I get pressure on my shin where the buckle is. The boot may not be much shorter than the old boot but it feels shorter to me. I like a really high boot. I don’t understand the people who are saying the tongue on this boot is too stiff. After watching one of the US designers video who says he loves the old red T Race, I see where things are headed with the comp. I want a high, 4 buckle boot, or at least one which emulates that feel. I don’t want a stiff bellows, that is what the springs are for. Are you in Colorado or Utah?

I basically want a Dynafit Radical teleboot.

@@amerotrashtelemarketer I think you should definitely give them a go with powerwrap liners... I also have tried the "world cup booster" strap. Had them on my old TX Comp. Significantly stiffer than the stock strap. Updated video/tips tricks and mods I think is due. I am in Utah.

@@amerotrashtelemarketer what about the radical boot is not close enough on the new TX pro? It looks like nearly the same. 3 buckle. 1500g ish.

Well summarized 😂 Are you running your springs on the same setting?

@@TeleTayTV yes

Thanks for watching! Definitely a good touring boot. TX Pro 2.0 bellows are for sure softer than the old TX Comps, but yeah I agree the lateral/carve/edge control of the new design is really good! I don't mind the new TX Pro in moguls, but I think it is also important to adjust your bindings to match the boots. I softened the springs for TX Pro compared to how I set them with the TX Comps.

@@TeleTayTV That's a great idea. I'll give it a try. I've been rocking outlaws with the springs pretty tight. I'll back them off a bit.

Thanks buddy! Let's go skiing soon🤘

Yeah I've been grabbing those most days to be honest🔥

Glad you liked! I'm mostly skiing on some old "teletay" variations of custom skis built with 7even skis here in Salt Lake City, Utah. Todd is the owner as has helped build some really awesome skis over the years!

Thank you! Nothing wrong with the old boots, and you should keep skiing them.

Thank you! Too kind! I will be working on a few technique videos soon! Hope I can share some valuable insights.

They certainly can be! Essentially ski the same as the Outlaw binding from 22 Designs. So depending on what springs and what spring setting you are using.

You got it! Lots of stuff I'd like to cover this season 🤘

Hope it was a good day in the mountains!

Just vocabulary. "Alf's High Rustler" is on the trail map. High Boy seems like the local's slang

Thank you! I hope you get some good turns this season! Seems like Japan is extra deep powder this year!

Thank you! I need to get back to Switzerland ASAP!

We are very lucky! A perfect blend of dry desert air and precipitation makes for light density snow!

Finally shared a few more thoughts on the TX Pro here ruclips.net/video/F32z-I5Y2Xw/видео.html

thanks! My Tx pros have softened quite a bit. They now feel similar to my T2s. But a bit stiffer. Love the flex and control!

Thank you!