Igrien
Igrien
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Supporting the Asian Dutch community
In this video, I'm taking you with me to two events from the Asian Dutch community this week. One in Wereldmuseum Leiden, and one in the Nieuwe Bibliotheek in Almere. Both featured the book Modelverhalen by Liang de Beer. I'm also talking a bit about our initiative Chinatown with the Red Blue Collective.
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Support our crowdfunding here: www.voordekunst.nl/projecten/17870-de-onbekende-verhalen-van-chinatown#donaties
Or take a look at our open call here: www.redblue.foundation/open-call
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Modelverhalen / Wereldmuseum Leiden / Nieuwe Bibliotheek Almere / Asian Raisins / Xiu Yun / Project Monolids / Albert Heijn / grocery shopping / typical Dutch groceries / Pan...
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Living in Amsterdam (and why I love it)
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INTRO I wanted to make a video about life in Amsterdam and realised how much I love my city and living here. CHAPTERS 00:00 Appreciating Amsterdam 00:23 Amsterdam's city center 01:21 Canal cruises 01:58 750th anniversary Amsterdam 02:22 Saint Jean deli 03:19 Why we love Saint Jean 04:08 Why I love Amsterdam 04:41 Convenience 05:35 Diversity 05:56 Vibrancy 06:28 International vibe 07:06 Tram 5 /...
What is the best age for preschool?
Просмотров 862 месяца назад
ABOUT In this video I'm discussing our thoughts on enrolling Rosie in preschool in the Netherlands. She doesn't go to daycare because we have our parents help take care of her. But as she's almost turning two in a few months, we want to be prepared and are researching what the best age is for preschool. Is two years too young? CHAPTERS 00:00 Preschool open day 01:35 What is a preschool and why ...
How I feel as a Dutch Chinese
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ABOUT A topic that has been on my mind lately, is my bicultural identity (or third culture identity). LINKS Our crowdfunding: www.voordekunst.nl/projecten/17870-de-onbekende-verhalen-van-chinatown Every support is welcome!! Our open call for stories: www.redblue.foundation/open-call FEATURING Amsterdam's Chinatown / Amazing Oriental supermarket / Tea Kee bubble tea / boba / first generation / C...
Why the definition of art doesn't matter
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This week I've been trying to think of the question "what is art?". I visited an art fair, an art exhibition and went into the studio myself to shoot. As a maker, I'm constantly asking myself this question. CHAPTERS 00:00 What is art? 00:06 Preview 00:38 Art is subjective 01:06 Affordable Art Fair 02:13 Art is intimidating 02:58 Andres Reisinger / Moco Museum 04:01 Art is engaging 04:41 Gelderl...
Why we choose no daycare parenting
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Why we choose no daycare parenting
Why Zuidas does not feel like Amsterdam (and it's okay)
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Why Zuidas does not feel like Amsterdam (and it's okay)
Why your first exhibition is all about learning
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Why your first exhibition is all about learning

Комментарии

  • @frankwalders
    @frankwalders 19 минут назад

    You also speak English like a native. How did that happen?

  • @mw7214
    @mw7214 День назад

    @davidwen maybe you should meet David Wen, he is a Chinese American who has been living in Netherland for a few years. :)

  • @mw7214
    @mw7214 День назад

    Regardless of your nationality, everybody should be proud of your own heritage and culture. Be who you are and find the balance.

  • @hidavidwen
    @hidavidwen 2 дня назад

    My Chinese Dutch friend sent me this-I’m a Chinese American living in The Netherlands who grew up in San Francisco’s Chinatown-your story resonates with mine too. Immigrant parents (especially my mom) who came with nothing and gave us everything. And being bicultural. It’s a story that many of us overseas Chinese share too. And it’s so important to tell these stories of our parents and our culture, so I wish you all the best and good luck!

    • @mw7214
      @mw7214 День назад

      Well said by Wen.

  • @KajiRider1997
    @KajiRider1997 5 дней назад

    Mijn opa kwam in de jaren 50 naar Nederland vanuit Sicilië en moest ook voor alles aanpassen. Hij kon op zijn minst 5 talen maar niet Nederlands. Dat kon hij nog steeds niet toen hij oud was. Mijn oma is Nederlands (ook een mengsel van Indisch, Brits, Duits and Joods) en die heeft hem veel geleerd. Mijn vader is Nederlands met een beetje duits, dus ben ik maar 25% Siciliaans waarvan dat ook gemengd is tussen allemaal volkeren (we komen uit Chiusa Sclafani een door noormannen gestichte dorp) en toch hoe ik me opgevoed ben voel ik me meer Siciliaans dan Nederlands. Ik luister meer naar Italiaanse muziek en ik kook veel liever Italiaans, Ik kan ook net zo goed Siciliaans verstaan alhoewel praten wat moeilijker is. Ik doe well mee met dat cultuurtje van jullie maar dat Nederlandse identiteit is gewoon niet zo sterk bij mij.

  • @ericdecler
    @ericdecler 6 дней назад

    As a Dutch man married for almost 20 years to a chinese born chinese wife, I know it is not easy, be proud of yourself

    • @igrien
      @igrien 5 дней назад

      Thank you for this. Really needed it today!

  • @RealConstructor
    @RealConstructor 8 дней назад

    It is perfectly normal to ask a person where they’re from (originally) in my opinion. When I, a Dutch white skinned person, visit to the north, where my brother lives, people ask me where I’m from. They say I sound from the western part of The Netherlands, specifically (around) Amsterdam. Im not offended, although I should be, I don’t wanna be associated with people from Amsterdam, they’re a special bunch. Most people are just curious and interested, and have no harm in mind.

  • @redbag3453
    @redbag3453 13 дней назад

    This is a really sensitive one one !! I personally dont like this ultra nationalistic kind of mind state, how ever embracing ur culture language & being just yourself gives u abit of peace 🕊️

  • @armandovanhaaren9823
    @armandovanhaaren9823 13 дней назад

    Waar is die supermarkt

    • @igrien
      @igrien 13 дней назад

      @@armandovanhaaren9823 Amazing Oriental in Amsterdam

  • @ThirstyTunaTaco
    @ThirstyTunaTaco 14 дней назад

    Respect for your mother. She must be a tough cookie.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 14 дней назад

      @@ThirstyTunaTaco she definitely is!

    • @ThirstyTunaTaco
      @ThirstyTunaTaco 14 дней назад

      ​@@igrien She made some REAL sacrifices girlll. Is she still allive and in NL?

    • @igrien
      @igrien 14 дней назад

      @ She did. Everything I have now is because of her. She is. She is now a very happy grandmother, in love with her grand child. She comes here almost every day to be with our Rosie 🥰🥺🫶

  • @blo0dyc0rpse
    @blo0dyc0rpse 16 дней назад

    need more vlogs die zijn super leuk om to kijken :)

    • @igrien
      @igrien 14 дней назад

      Ah thanks! Ik ben bezig met de volgende! Was een beetje druk de laatste maand :(

  • @stephanb5945
    @stephanb5945 16 дней назад

    is your father dutch or Chinese because your title is quite vague are you dutch Chinese or Chinese Chinese living in the Netherlands and did you not have a dutch father ??? just say your Chinese father ditch your Chinese mother

    • @igrien
      @igrien 14 дней назад

      My father was Chinese too but I was born in the Netherlands so that makes me Dutch.

  • @etiennedubois4050
    @etiennedubois4050 16 дней назад

    I am a 66 yo male, born in (then) Djakarta. From an 'Indisch' (mixed Dutch-Indonesian) military background. My parents & their 5 sons came in January 1967 to the Netherlands as it was the last possibility for people of mixed ancestry (remnants of Dutch colonialism) to come. Call it sth of a repatriation. Racism was sth I really endured. I grew up not far from Geuzenveld, in Osdorp. On one occasion was asked by a 'friend' not to enter his house, because his mother hated coloured people. Suffice to say that that was the last time I ever spoke to him. Even later racism was still lurking. But I refused to get defined by these nasty experiences. Other people don't get to determine who I am. Although born in Indonesia, and I am aware of & appreciate my Indonesian culture & background, I am Dutch & feel Dutch. Not because Indonesia is inferior to the Netherlands, but this country shaped me in every which way. The fact that I am gay as the oldest of 5 boys has also a lot with that. Also I know what it means to be a Christian in a country where at least 80% were Muslim. Don't get me wrong, my dear mother was Muslim, so was her father who was a devout. He was the one who told me that Jews, Christians and Muslims were children of Abraham. That we were related & shouldn't fight or hate each other. Problem was that you were still different than the other children. Here in Amsterdam I feel protected & secure. As a student I lived in England for a while, and I took an Interrail on several occasions. I love Europe, but Amsterdam is the place where I want to be & someday to die. You don't notice you live in a paradise, till you are out of it. Sure the Netherlands has its problems, but somehow or other we managed to talk the problems away & stay in communication. Last but not least I want to proclaim this to the world: 'Amsterdam, er is geen stad die ook maar aan je tippen kan.'

    • @igrien
      @igrien 14 дней назад

      Thank you for this, I enjoyed reading it <3 I've always wanted to live abroad but as I grow older, I see how much I've taken for granted here. Things I know to be better here than abroad. Sure it's not perfect, but no place is. I think in the end we might just stay here!

  • @PrinceWalacra
    @PrinceWalacra 17 дней назад

    As an Dutch “ethnic European” in the Netherlands I never ask a Dutch person who “has the looks from another continent” about “where do you come from”… I just want to get to know the person as a person, not “why someone looks differently from me”. It’s up to anyone themselves to reveal their identity, whether it’s cultural, gender or looks. The world today is mixed and it’s a wealth to get to know people who are different from yourself. Evolutionary the most diverse population will be the strongest to stand the future.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      I admire that. We should in the end look past our looks in society!

  • @PrinceWalacra
    @PrinceWalacra 17 дней назад

    As an Dutch “ethnic European” in the Netherlands I never ask a Dutch person who “has the looks from another continent” about “where do you come from”… I just want to get to know the person as a person, not “why someone looks differently from me”. It’s up to anyone themselves to reveal their identity, whether it’s cultural, gender or looks. The world today is mixed and it’s a wealth to get to know people who are different from yourself. Evolutionary the most diverse population will be the strongest to stand the future.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      I admire that! In the end we should all look past how we look and just treat each other as equal people!

  • @TheJoaveck
    @TheJoaveck 17 дней назад

    Your title already says how you feel: A Dutch Chinese is a Chinese. A Chinese Dutch is Dutch.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      Or is it the other way around? For some people, Dutch Chinese means you are Dutch.

    • @TheJoaveck
      @TheJoaveck 16 дней назад

      You know what is a 'bijvoegelijk naamwoord' ? It says something about the word after it. A brown tree is still a tree. Yes, it's brown tho. A Dutch Chinese is a Chinese that is Dutch. Anyway, I'm far from racist and want you to know that everyone is welcome here. I admire the Chinese respectful culture.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      @@TheJoaveck Thanks! I guess it's confusing because in English, the term British or American Chinese seems to be used more often instead of Chinese Brit or American. Me and my friends always argue which is more correct but we never end up agreeing haha!

    • @TheJoaveck
      @TheJoaveck 16 дней назад

      @@igrien No problem and I hope you don't feel offended by my directness. I really just like to share my perspectives from the other side. There are conservatives in every country that don't like change. But I think we can only learn from getting to know other cultures.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      @ I agree. I think discussions is what gets us further in society in the end and not blaming each other for not being this or that, that’s too easy. So I appreciate your time and thought!

  • @TheJoaveck
    @TheJoaveck 17 дней назад

    Je bent pas een Nederlander als je thuis ook Nederlands praat. Punt. Anders ben je net een toerist.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      Maar wat als je ouders de taal niet goed beheersen? Dan ben je niet Nederlands? Mijn paspoort zegt namelijk dat ik wel Nederlands ben. Maar met mijn moeder praat ik Chinees.

    • @TheJoaveck
      @TheJoaveck 16 дней назад

      @@igrien Waarom praat jouw moeder nog altijd geen Nederlands? Je zei dat ze hier geboren zijn toch? Wanner ik zou emigreren naar China zou ik echt wel mijn best om zo snel mogelijk op zijn minst mandarijn te leren. Wij Nederlanders zijn altijd degene die zich aanpassen voor mensen die een andere taal spreken. Duitsers, Fransen, en voor de rest van de wereld spreken we ook nog Engels. Als je hier al zo lang leeft en nog de taal niet beheerst, ben je dan wel oprecht geinteressert in het land waar je woont of zocht je een plek om Chinees te zijn onder betere leefomstandigheden?

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      @ mijn moeder is hier niet geboren. Ze is hier gekomen in de jaren 70-80. Ze spreekt wel Nederlands; beter dan de gemiddelde Chinees in haar kring. Maar uiteraard nog wel beperkt. Vandaar dat we thuis toch Chinees spreken; wel met een mix van Nederlandse woorden omdat ik gebrekkig Chinees spreek 🤭

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      @ en eens hoor, zou ik ook doen als ik zou emigreren. Maar van wat ik heb gehoord van de eerste generatie Chinezen, was het een moeilijke tijd. Taalcursussen waren niet gratis en vaak hadden ze het geld niet en de tijd hier. Lonen waren lager voor Chinezen dus ze konden niet anders dan zelf iets starten en daar 80u per week staan. En het was in die tijd nog geen vereiste.

    • @TheJoaveck
      @TheJoaveck 16 дней назад

      @@igrien Oh ik dacht ze hier geboren was. Heel erg bedankt voor je verklaring. Ik snap het wel dat je als 'buitenstaander' een kring hebt met 'soortgenoten' die ook jouw cultuur en taal delen.

  • @richardaling5278
    @richardaling5278 17 дней назад

    Very annoying: Subtitles i can't get rid of in the same language as spoken...

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      I'm sorry! Some people like it because they turn off the sound..

  • @SusantoHalim-e5g
    @SusantoHalim-e5g 17 дней назад

    Support all Asians living in Western countries!

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      Thank you!

  • @SusantoHalim-e5g
    @SusantoHalim-e5g 17 дней назад

    @Mrhouse must be racist Trump supporter!

  • @SusantoHalim-e5g
    @SusantoHalim-e5g 17 дней назад

    Mrhouse must be racist Trump supporter!

  • @eelkesangers
    @eelkesangers 18 дней назад

    Have you already started your book about the Chinese who came to the Netherlands?

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      No we are still in the research and crowdfunding phase. We will be starting our interviews in February! If you know anyone, let me know!

  • @genkishan
    @genkishan 20 дней назад

    Personally as I have been a non native anywhere I lived I don't identify myself with my DNA heritage but as a being and that's very liberating instead of being trapped with labels "I'm this or I'm that" I prefer this is my planet and I am me

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      I admire that. In the end, we are all just people, and it doesn't matter how we look or where our parents or grandparents are from!

  • @nielsdorhout058
    @nielsdorhout058 22 дня назад

    Let me know if you visit Leeuwarden, i give you a tour 🫡

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      That would be great!

  • @jabsdrahm.3232
    @jabsdrahm.3232 22 дня назад

    You are Malaysian !... You will fit in more in Malaysia

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      Haha, I love Malaysia so I'd love it! Maybe in the future!

  • @hectorberlioz1449
    @hectorberlioz1449 25 дней назад

    You don't make the impression that you are either dutch or chinese. You are talking with a fluent american- english accent. So what has this to do with dutch or chinese ?

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      I should have done this video in Dutch or Chinese then!

  • @chrismair8161
    @chrismair8161 27 дней назад

    I am born in Canada and served in a military form. Being born in a foreign Country would be quite a struggle. My Parents cold calm out look made my immersion actually very easy. My parents are from Scotland so a bit of a difference.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      For my parents it was different. They didn't speak the language here and had to rely on the community to teach them how to survive in the Netherlands. If I wanted to move abroad now, I think it would be much easier because I was raised more 'western'.

  • @HyPnOsS1933
    @HyPnOsS1933 27 дней назад

    Voel ik me meer Nederlands of Chinees loopt vervolgens een Aziatisch toko binnen Punt is gemaakt dat was een snelle video dankjewel 😂

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      Een beetje onhandig van mij, die edit!

  • @MorenoJ1973
    @MorenoJ1973 29 дней назад

    Doesn't matter. Just being yourself is more important and feeling happy. Be proud of where you come. The race that you are is the human race, like every living human being.from.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      Thank you for that! That's exactly how it is.

  • @saevius1
    @saevius1 29 дней назад

    I Will geven you a tip. Helmerbuurt. Behind overtoom

  • @saevius1
    @saevius1 29 дней назад

    I Will geven you a tip: duende dos, nieuwe willemstraat 1, take the paella. Dir. Marnixstraat

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      Thank you

  • @bertkassing8541
    @bertkassing8541 Месяц назад

    Oke, een jaar of wat geleden. Ik loop met mijn twee uit China geadopteerde dochters in Chinatown. Ze waren nog jong toen. Mijn oudste dochter ziet een Chinese man en zegt : hee, een Chinees!. Even later. Hee, nog een Chinees. En nog één, en nog één..... Jaren later is ze weer in Chinatown. Ze ergert zich en zegt: In elke Chinese winkel praten ze Chinees en ze denken dat ik het ook versta. In onvervalst plat Amsterdams zegt ze tegen me: Pap, ben ik eigenlijk nog wel Chinees? Volgens mij lijk ik uiterlijk ook niet op een Chinees....... 2013 rootsreis naar China. Ze zegt: Pap al die Chinezen zien gewoon aan me dat ik niet van hier ben. Mijn kleding of zoiets. Ze merken het, maar ze spreken me wel aan in de winkels. Ze laat een kaartje zien dat ze geen Chinees spreekt omdat ze Nederlandse is. De Chinezen vinden het maar raar. 2016 op bezoek bij haar biologische familie in Xiamen. Permanent een tolk voor het dialect van daar erbij. Zelfs haar biologische zussen zijn wat verbaasd dat ze geen Chinees spreekt. Ze maakt met haar biologische moeder en twee zussen dumplings. Ze zegt: Goh, ik voel me nu opeens een beetje Chinees :-) 2024 ze is nu 26 jaar. Ex-topsporter, contortioniste, acrobate, lifistyle coach, pilates docente in een relatie met een militair veteraan. Ze geniet van het leven en noemt zichzelf een banaan. Geel van buiten, wit van binnen :-) En je moest eens weten hoeveel ik van mijn beide dochters houd!

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      Mooi om te lezen. Ik voelde me zelf ook altijd een 'banaan' omdat ik de Chinese taal beperkt beheerste. In China zagen en hoorden ze aan mij dat ik niet 'een van hun' was. En in Nederland hetzelfde. Daardoor voelde ik mij altijd 'anders' omdat ik mij nergens echt thuis voelde. Tegenwoordig zie ik het juist als een rijkdom dat ik met zo veel verschillende culturen / talen ben opgegroeid!

  • @WanderingSword
    @WanderingSword Месяц назад

    Vietnamese American here. Born in the US. I saw and still see racism all the times, from grade school to professional environment. Then some 15 years ago I went to Vietnam for the first time in my life. Let me tell you, it was an eye opener for me to see people who don't discriminate me based on my ethnic. I have since bought a house in Vietnam, and when I retire I will move to Vietnam. Asia is where the activity will be in the next century, the Asian century.

    • @-_YouMayFind_-
      @-_YouMayFind_- 21 день назад

      That is kind of weird to say. Activity will be everywhere haha or are you suggesting that China bombs us between that time?

    • @SusantoHalim-e5g
      @SusantoHalim-e5g 17 дней назад

      Western society is a racist society.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      I understand you totally. I have thought of moving to Asia too in the past. It would be such a relief not to have to deal with racism or discrimination against you!

  • @ykchang7171
    @ykchang7171 Месяц назад

    I am a Malaysian second generation Chinese as my father came from China. Now my children are living in Australia, New Zealand and Singapore. I returned to Malaysia with my wife because we have more friends and relatives in Malaysia. Now I only grand children in Australia can only speak English.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      Nice to meet you. I love Malaysia! I plan to go again next year with my mother. She still has loads of friends and family there. Too bad your grandchildren can only speak English. I myself speak little Chinese and fear my daughter will probably speak even less than me! Which is a shame!

  • @ivarbrouwer197
    @ivarbrouwer197 Месяц назад

    Born and raised in Amsterdam, I live very close, like 5 minutes walking at pace. besides the station it has nothing for me, it feels so disconnected and has no way to anchor itself in the environment. New places like in Noord are build with the River Ei in mind, which warrant a bit of scale and perspective to warrant the megalomaniac scale of things but Zuidas has no logical way to blend in it’s environment, as it could have been build with the Amsterdam Forrest and it’s water in mind if it was a km west.. Next to that it has no culture like the Film museum or link to the previous usage like the harbours and does nothing for citizens from other parts of Amsterdam.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      I agree. But it is changing. I definitely see changes compared to ten years ago when I lived here. Little by little, it is turning into a warmer and more vibrant neighborhood. But it's still a long way to go, I agree!

  • @joeyp1927
    @joeyp1927 Месяц назад

    What you said about growing up Chinese in the Netherlands, but not feeling like you belong to.the Chinese group or the Dutch group, resonates with me as an Asian growing up in America. But the part about becoming part of an American-British international culture is really interesting: we, as Asian Americans, helped create a lot of that culture but feel excluded from that culture just the same. We have had to push hard to be represented in many of the films, shows, etc. that comprise that culture, making it truly international.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      I agree and wonder why that is. My Moroccan friends here say us Asian don't push hard enough, compared to other ethnic minorities. I don't know whether that's true; perhaps. I do see things changing and I hope my daughter will grow up in a world where we are more represented everywhere!

  • @ypey1
    @ypey1 Месяц назад

    I identify as human

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      That's beautiful; you should!

  • @geekuyl6942
    @geekuyl6942 Месяц назад

    I was born in Amsterdam in 1956 and I've seen a lot of changes. Some for the good and some for the bad. But the zuid-as is great. Just like Noord is booming with new buildings and Zeeburg too. Almost all of the old harbor is gone and I don't mind. In the 70ies some parts where really bad. Behind central station, heroin hookers and on the Ruyterkade too. I like that weird appartement building on the Beethoven straat. It makes me think of a hollow molar that needs fixing.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      I understand what you're saying! But I somehow like the peculiar shape of that building!

    • @geekuyl6942
      @geekuyl6942 16 дней назад

      @@igrien I think it is a beautiful building, perhaps one of the most beautiful modern buildings in Amsterdam. I followed the entire construction and was fascinated how it took shape. But I can't help but associate it with a hollow molar.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 14 дней назад

      @@geekuyl6942 I walked past the building today and had to think of your hollow molar comment haha! Now I can't unsee it!

  • @Noutelus
    @Noutelus Месяц назад

    I think everybody should become like a chinese when living in china, everyone should become dutch when living in the netherlands. Otherwise you always remain just a guest and not a someone who lives here.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 16 дней назад

      But what exactly is being Chinese or Dutch about? It's not one shape or form, is it? That's what makes it hard!

    • @Noutelus
      @Noutelus 16 дней назад

      @@igrien It is not hard. Look how people live, talk and behave and then copy that. People are really good at that if they want to AND if they respect the culture.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 14 дней назад

      @@Noutelus So all people are the same in the Netherlands? That's too simple. There are Dutch people who speak English nowadays, especially in Amsterdam. And similarly there are Chinese people speaking more Dutch but they are still treated differently. So it's not that simple.

    • @Noutelus
      @Noutelus 14 дней назад

      @@igrien If you respect a country and want to live there then you should start to live like how the majority lives. If i somehow find myself living in china then i will try to do anything to become as much chinese as possible, that is what good people who appreciate and respect the host culture would do.

    • @igrien
      @igrien 14 дней назад

      @ again, it’s not that easy. You think Chinese people haven’t tried here? And yet we will always be seen as different. I’m just saying, even if people have tried, sometimes you will still be treated as different.

  • @elcoach8931
    @elcoach8931 Месяц назад

    Great project and build from love and respect to the Chinese community in Amsterdam and Netherlands. Do believe its worth all time and effort to write history over the past and present✍💪👏

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      Thanks for your comment! I agree. If we don't do it now, I'm afraid it will be harder to retrieve all information for future generations. So I feel like now is the time!

  • @therealdutchidiot
    @therealdutchidiot Месяц назад

    In the end, does it really matter how you should feel? Should you feel Chinese? Should you feel Dutch? It really doesn't matter. You can be a little bit of both.

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      @@therealdutchidiot I guess you’re right, it doesn’t really matter anyway! As long as we’re happy!

    • @therealdutchidiot
      @therealdutchidiot Месяц назад

      @@igrien Exactly! Just be who you are, you're more than enough of a person without worrying about nonsense like "so which nationality do I feel more kinship with?" Now, to be sure, It's a very real question, but I feel it's very open ended. For me as a Dutch person, I genuinely like Indonesian people more, for example. Does that make me less Dutch? Obviously not. Does that mean I'm prone to dating Dutch girls? Well, not if thereś a South-East Asian girl to date. Mind you, that's not about race or anything, it's about mindset.

  • @hirsch4155
    @hirsch4155 Месяц назад

    I grew up Dutch in Canada it was like the opposite to you. I’m Canadian and Dutch but you’re actually more Dutch than me because you grew up there . Even though I had the Dutch influence at home (stereotypes that were true) lol. Also I had a lot of Asian influences because of the Asian community in my city.

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      @@hirsch4155 That’s interesting! I’ve never met a Dutch person who grew up in another country before! Do you come here often and how does it feel when you’re here?

  • @NaamVerzinnen
    @NaamVerzinnen Месяц назад

    Your point about the cultural appropriation and whitewashing of Tea Kee is that it not the same as the street names in the area of ​​the streets in Zeedijk changing in chinese sign. Edit: I'm for change and nothing is as changeable as traditions, if everything stays the same it's only going backwards. I don't quite understand what's wrong with them specifying ingredients. On the other hand, I still think Starbucks and bubble tea are 'niet te hachelen' and way too sweet

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      @@NaamVerzinnen Thanks for your comment! I believe in change too in order to innovate and move on in time. I think the street signs in Chinese are more a sign of respect to the community in that area. The regular Dutch street signs are still up. And regarding the whitewashing of bubble tea, I believe the case of the owners presenting their Bobba brand as ‘clean’ and ‘transparent’ is actually saying that the original bubble tea is the opposite. And then using it to further themselves financially, without an ounce of respect for the culture, that’s cultural appropriation.

    • @NaamVerzinnen
      @NaamVerzinnen Месяц назад

      @@igrien Bubble tea is something from Taiwan I think, not from China. I personally see it as marketing, and not an attack on. I don't think you should look for a conspiracy in it. We certainly have to take everyone into account, but we are now too much on our toes because everything affects someone personally. Because that is the problem in today's society and maybe I contribute to it too. Too many opinions on social media that are accepted as true and no more common sense. (and I shared an opinion of mine on socials again 🤔). However, I found it informative and your mother is baddass

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      @@NaamVerzinnen I never said it’s from China. I think most Asians identify it as being part of the Asian culture. I grew up drinking boba when it wasn’t ‘hip’ yet. Society has become fragile on some points, I do agree with that. But myself, as a Dutch born Chinese, I have felt inferior growing up in a ‘white world’, with enough people around me making fun of how I eat, talk or look all my life. But now that things have become ‘hip’, and money is to be made off of it, I just find it disrespectful the way they handled it. I have seen countless boba shops with non Taiwanese owners that were respectful and honoring the culture. This just was not it. Mom is definitely badass. Gave me a tough shield because of it. But I also realize that it buried some of the pains I have felt throughout life whenever I was made to feel inferior because of my ethnicity. Thank you for having a polite discussion with me 🙏 Topics like this are just hard and often carry many emotions. Understanding eachother is the only way forward.

  • @corneliusantonius3108
    @corneliusantonius3108 Месяц назад

    Jij bent gewoon een mooie Nederlandse meid met chinese roots.

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      @@corneliusantonius3108 dank ☺️!

  • @regntonne
    @regntonne Месяц назад

    What do the in chinatown streetnames translate to? Is it word for word translation or is it just phonetically?

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      @@regntonne I believe they are literal translations!

  • @Tjalie-j6i
    @Tjalie-j6i Месяц назад

    You aren't half anything. You are fully both. You can be fully Dutch and you can be fully Chinese. I'm Dutch and Chindo and can be fully 3 different ethnicities if i want to.

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      I like your perspective on this. I do feel I’m both fully but at the same time none but perhaps somewhere in between!

  • @rjdverbeek
    @rjdverbeek Месяц назад

    Where is rhe link to the crowd fund?

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      Helemaal vergeten! www.voordekunst.nl/projecten/17870-de-onbekende-verhalen-van-chinatown

  • @rjdverbeek
    @rjdverbeek Месяц назад

    Zou het een idee zijn om deze video ook gewoon in het Nederlands uit te brengen? As it is now this video resembles a video of an expat living for a few years in the Netherlands.

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      Goed idee! Ik ben nog aan het kijken hoe ik sommige thema's in het Nederlands wil doen en andere thema's in het Engels. Deze video had inderdaad ook in het Nederlands gekund!

    • @KraKra-Ah
      @KraKra-Ah Месяц назад

      @@igrienjouw engels is echt vloeiend. Geen NL of Chineed accent. Spreek je Manderijns en/of Cantonees? Mijn vrouw zou je 1e generatie (HK) chinees kunnen noemen. Alhoewel ze veeel te hard werkt heeft ze niet de 'hard ship' gekend zoals jouw moeder aangezien ze voor mij naar NL is verhuisd.. 😅 Haar conversational-Nederlands is prima... Toch praten we thuis gewoon engels. Misschien doe jij dat ook. Ik g je YT kanaal iig volgen.,, ❤

    • @igrien
      @igrien Месяц назад

      @ Ik spreek zelf Mandarijns en Hokkien en versta Cantonees omdat mijn man Cantonees is. Thuis spreken we nu Engels voor ons dochtertje. Dank voor het volgen! 🙏🙏

  • @sunnysaggu830
    @sunnysaggu830 Месяц назад

    Ur so beautiful dear ur from dear

  • @sunnysaggu830
    @sunnysaggu830 Месяц назад

    I'm also visit Amsterdam