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@@goldenducky12 I have no idea about G3 or ignite in general as I haven't played any of those in this season. But I can record a short mapping showcase when I get home in about 30mins

uploaded some mapping gameplay now.

sure, my gear is pretty min maxed now except for +1 focus/curse bases but i started this build with alot less. VekeJ6g1Ee+iEwAAAAAAIA==

and this is one of my early snapshots: XcR2maFmEe+6NgAAAAAANA== just incase someone wants to take ideas for a more "budget" setup but dont follow this one too closely cuz there is probably alot of issues that i fixed later on.

No, rob is dead on all hero's imo. for ss6 go abuse spell burst. im playing triple conv gemma 1 cl with the spell burst abuse. here is build code if interested: km/xQZiOEe+f6QAAAAAANA==

Nope this was just me pogging out when they released candles. i think the fastest would be something like evasion stacker carino1 but i havent played it.

@@1128eli The build is really outdated by now. I wouldn't recommend it. I've seen people do Carino 3 Rob this league scaling with +proj and proj speed I think.

@@1128eli check out @Cwy_Peppapcc he has some videos of Carino Rob

@@S0Nerdi i have a level 94 gemma 1 looking for something to switch to from this boring ass fireball

@@1128eli oh, I'm playing Gemma 2 this season so I haven't looked what Gemma 1's are doing. I would just look at the leaderboards for a build. My guess is that people are still playing either ROI or ignite ROI on gemma1

@@S0Nerdi yes even if its outdated where do i find the sheet or build? im new and just followed high dps hero ranking as of rn im at 4m dps with ring of blades build too and i feel like i hit a wall. Whjere do i find this build?

i have not played that character since release but i think path of flames is still recommended for that. it uses 2x wands but flame of pleasure is not really good compared to other classes as it lacks damage.

@@S0Nerdi what's the best class to play on your opinion

@@syncsx that's a tough call and depends on what you are going for but atleast for this season i'd say thea 1 because of the shadow swamp snapshot bug. its so cheap to reach +500 bil dmg, i think my top 3 would be: 1. Thea 1 2. Youga 2 3. Rehan 2 But i think both youga and rehan need ALOT more investment to reach the same level of performance and thea 1 is the only (s tier performance on a budget and still scales alot with investment)

@@S0Nerdi by saying investment and budget, you mean p2w content? And what's the estimated budget if its p2w

@@syncsx no, by budget/investment i mean Flame elementium (you can get more FE if u spend on p2w pets but i dont spend money on p2w)

max terra and terra quant(candle's + unique's + wands) The skill should only create 1 terra but it is bugged this season so it has no limit on terra. and we abuse the thea 1 snapshot, ie we cast the shadow swamp once so it creates 8 (or how ever many terra's u can get) and since we only cast the skill once it also takes the thea 1's snapshot. we automate shadow shot which on hit moves the swamp so it can keep all the buffs/snapshot hopefully this explains it a little bit :D much cheaper & more dmg without the imperial might because with imperial u also want to use double corrupted helm.

@@S0Nerdi I am trying to emulate this, my gear is pretty similar to yours, but my numbers are nowhere close, im ~50-55 bil on a dummy. I have all the terra quant + stacks but what am I missing to have such a huge difference in our numbers? I cant post the link because of youtube comment deletion but the build number for me is #ts53f08n if you could take a look and let me know I would appreciate it, thanks

@@Bromby787 are u gaining terra charges in the bottom skill bar? because u do not have double corroded helm which takes away the negative effect. in budget version you do not need it because the unique chest negates the effect but with imperial you might need it. thats the only thing i can come up with because your gear seems really good. or you are not doing the snapshot correctly.

@@S0Nerdi I got the helm to have the reduced cost, i wasnt gaining stacks fast enough, once i got it i went 500B insta, ty. this is a bonkers build plz no nerf :D

@@Bromby787 Nice! i think they already said nerf next season because its a bug, so enjoy while it lasts ;) the skill info clearly says it should only make 1 terra :D but yeah i think its good to nerf because after i played this build i didnt enjoy anything else this league since it was so good even with low budget. Also, if u want to go even further with the build. instead of having so much t0 on wand u could focus on getting high aura% implicit wand, for boots getting the unique aura stack boots (forgot the name) and i would make gloves with explode so mapping and some mechanics feels alot better with explode.

Sorry i missed your comment. this is not a build, just trash thrown together to speed level. milkybk_ has a builder for the endgame evasion stacker but its stolen from asia server so i quess no one has any idea how well it plays in actual content so use at your own risk xdd.

Mind control i cant say for sure because i only used it for leveling but it seems to be top ladder (but ofc they use very expensive "order scaling" and frost terra was really good last season but i cant confirm if its still as strong because i have only played erorion/dot builds this season. (both should be strong but dont ask me for a builder or price xdd) the only thing i can recommend is thea 1 shadow swamp cuz i played it and capped dummy on a very small budget.

1st build was mind control (leveling setup b4 shadow swamp), second one was evasion stacker but it was "homebrew" from the maxroll builder that milky has in he's !sheet and made only for speed running that 1 zone. you can see my only defence is 153 energy shield and i was playing playing the wrong hero for the actual "endgame" version, tho i have no idea what that build can do. the meta now is to get a build that snapshots 1 huge hit and somehow keeps that going without losing buffs. ie thea 1 shadow swamp, catgirl 2 groundshake or chain lightning.

i think people are still playing it but there has been some changes to the game so if u want to play it u need to see what they are doing in the leaderboards. i think "bv" is dead since the aura nerfs and if i remember correctly they nerfed the skill too so it cannot overlap anymore. i would recommend the shadow swamp thea 1 build, lots of cheap damage.

@@S0Nerdi thanks for answer, i already have almost full Erika 1, so looking for new character for myself, wanna play ssf fresh start on new char for me, have medals for one.

1-2k Fe maybe? Can be done even cheaper if u know what you are doing/what you need.

@@S0Nerdi do u have discord ? idk why i cant even reach 1B dmg .

@@blacking9336 if you import your character to maxroll i can take a look if i see something obviously wrong.

@@S0Nerdi maxroll.*gg/torchlight-infinite/builder/acb7z0wm average dps 950m and highest dps for 5sec is 1.7B If I compare my build to others I was expecting my build can do at least 100B .

@@S0Nerdi I cant reply a link here .

They are not in the game anymore xdd check the ingame leaderboards to see what people are doing with this build because i have not played gemma3 since it was released.

check new vid for builder

Nope, it started off feeling alot smoother than thea but after testing different setups i cant get it to feel as good as it did :D dont know what i messed up but i cant figure it out even after hours of messing around and crafting new gear XD

ye i really dont know anymore, i had Youga feeling really good and changed a few things and now it just feels like ass and all my damage is gone xdd

@@S0Nerdi rip :( i wonder what happened

Hard to say, can you import to maxroll and I can take a look if I see something that is obviously wrong.

nevermind i think i got it. Does your activation medium have the bottom mod tier 1 that says "always locks on"? i havent tested the other tiers myself but by the wording i think it only autocasts once per target because it says "removes lock on when skill deals damage"

@@S0Nerdi so do we still use skill by hand?

@@samduamr4917 Shadow swamp once when you have 25 stacks in the top left and shadow shot should be auto casting.

Tbh I didn't test how the rolls affects it bcuz they are expensive as f*ck. I think mine had always lock, 4 enemies and 17meters.

You are losing your snapshot of Thea's hero power. You have to use shadow swamp once you see the 25 stacks in the top left corner, and u might lose it mid map if u stop to loot for too long etc, just get the 25 stacks and redo the snapshot if that happens. (Try searching "Thea 1 snapshot tutorial") Someone made an explanation video a few leagues ago.

I have the same problem - it somehow seems very inconsistent for me - I always use it on 25 stacks, but sometimes I do absolutely nothing and sometimes everything dies in a sec (I understand all the Blessings etc. and that you make more dmg after consuming them reecently as well, but it's very weird)

@@Straggler8 shadow swamp can also run out. Shadow shot doesn't deal any damage it is automated because if u read the "gem" info it is used to move your swamp.

@@Straggler8 u could try dropping a few damage nodes and try if there is some increased skill duration on the tree or maybe slates? But I'm not sure if there is any good nodes there to fit with blessings. (Only other tip I have is not to stop too much because I think the duration is refreshed if the skill is moved by shadow shot but that requires a target) That's why I tried to get youga working because it's easier to refresh the skill manually when I don't have to keep an eye on blessings but i think youga needs much higher budget to get damage.

@@S0Nerdi Thank for the reply - yeah, sadly I know it. I think it just work a bit differently than I expected - you have both snapshot and dynamic scaling - snap works for the 25 stacks you get from the Hero traits, and all other increases and decreases ramp up the dmg of that 25-stack-buffed swamp :D At first I thought that you have to juice everything you have, stack every single buff, snapshot them and then lead the swamp in that state, however I think you just need to do the 25stacks and don't really think about it after that

I don't know what could I even say about it, it's pretty straight forward. Just get all the max terra and max blessings you can get and snapshot Thea's power onto the main skill and run. that's the build :D

@@S0Nerdi okay, ty

It already is? :D

Not sure what you meant but if u are talking about the snapshot, in the top left corner you need 25 stacks and shadow swamp once and ur snapshot is done.

Ye i can import to maxroll when I get home, I made some changes after the video.

imported the current setup now and made a new video

i dont remember since i swapped builds after i uploaded this, the build lacks single target as it is, since it was made for speed clearing 8-3/8-4 deep space with eternity so you cant really make the weapon any cheaper than it is cuz you'd really want all u can get.

its always hard to say cuz the crafting is so random in this game, u might hit items 1st try or u might fail 5times in a row. i'd say 2-4k FE + eternity would be a safe amount? but when i was playing it i also made my own upgrades to the 10k+ range but in the video i still had the starting gear.

Find the builder from milkybk's build sheet. i already swapped after making my FE's farming deep space with this.

@@S0Nerdi milky's version looks kinda expensive. i just want liek your cold variation

@@RenjiPewPew yup milky's is very expensive but there is a cold variant on top of it if u look at the sheet

if not i cry myself to sleep. my family is starving

he has a builder for cold bv in the !sheet

okay i found it thank you very much ​@@S0Nerdi

CWC Ring of ice Thea 2 (sorry dont have a builder or anything because i league started thea 1 thunder cloud and swapped to gemma 2 so i havent tested this in this league)

:O just incase you are not joking (i was watching palsteron's video in the background)

Croucing_tuna's cast on stun autobomber (he has a video for the rf starter version which transitions into this very nicely)

@@S0Nerdi cool thanks!

@@S0Nerdi what atlas strat are you running? just juicing burial chambers to the max and get as much whisps as possible? I'm running a power charge stacker, might switch to this build because i'm just a glass canon. selling my power charge ring should be enough for pretty much the whole build lol

@@DUBSkyLinEx3 yeah for a starting version it should be around 40div, 80div's would probably be pretty min maxed because its mostly just defences and all the dmg comes from explode/ignite. and for atlas im running tuna's strat. probably made +700divs in a few days

He's using a mageblood bro.

@@miguelfg93 ok and?

you dont need MB for this build xD @@miguelfg93

@@miguelfg93 actually the build was much better without a mageblood XD

Crouching_tuna's build he has a guide in his channel.

i haven't read anything about it yet but most likely i will atleast try it out.

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i think my gear is closer to 10k fe now so it might be too high for most people to replicate, i suggest watching CWY's video where he explains the build a little bit. (the build can be done with alot smaller budget too but it requires you to do some changes and testing yourself because there isnt much info on all the mechanics in english, there is only cwy's video and a written guide but its in chinese) ruclips.net/video/pgEZtVT7rWo/видео.html&ab_channel=cwy