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I've also done lots of hiking and backpacking starting at that trailhead. I might make a video comparing scenes from April and October. I was happy that a lot of it survived.

Started at the same trailhead, but just before you turn left from Second Water to Hackberry Springs, I took the right turn on Black Mesa. There was sort of a patchwork of land that had been burnt and some that hadn't been touched at all, so there is hope for the cottonwoods.

8 miles is usually not hard for me, but the elevation gain and running uphill when I haven’t run in a while kicked my butt! I need to get back in shape 😆

I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks for watching!

What a huge bummer! I hate it when the adventure vehicle breaks and im stuck with paved roads. Hope you get it fixed and get out there soon!

Thanks for the tip! We’ve been to the east side but we haven’t explored those places. Next time!

The one we stayed at was Rose Canyon.

It’s on the other side of the mountain from the inner basin, near Snowbowl.

Still closed. I think the sign said that they are looking at opening it again in 2025. The extra 6 miles is totally worth it though!

I knew there was a carbon pole option but I didn’t know that big Agnes made products with dcf. Good to know!

It was right before sunset. We got back to the car right around the time we would have needed headlamps.

Prepare to be amazed!

It would be great if viewers could toggle the music on or off. I suppose we could have done with just the sound of the leaves on this one, but that is less fun to edit 😁

We watch your videos all the time! To be fair, Jerry beat all of us 😄

@@shutupandhike 🤣🤣🤣 too true! We talked about doing it last year, so that's what we get for not getting it on the schedule. Looks like you guys camped close to where the trail meets the creek - that site looked pretty awesome.

We need to do a through hike of WCC! I think we will do it next spring. I’m thinking Maxwell trail to bullhead. Is that what you did?

@@shutupandhike We (2 of us) went down 142E and had one man boats strapped on our BP's ( looked like turtles) with a bellows air pump and patch kit. The Boats could go thru the slots easy ( put in and lay on top) and didn't us much energy ( enjoyable , very serene) at the end I had 5 patches, he had 7. We took 5 days, no rush. Went in June no monsoon. YOU DEFINITELY NEED A HIKING 'STAFF', a nice thick tall wood pole - it will save you big time. Yes, sometimes the Creek is the best route to go. We wore Boots for support and a change of dry clothes for nights. One man tents kept bugs/ants at bay. LOL - when we made it to Bull Pen the Camp Host ( campground has been removed ) there said a lot of people coming out look like death warmed over. Now a lot of people know about WCC, when we went not so much. I did a lot of BP'ing in my Day - Down the Grand Canyon 11 times. etc,etc , but WCC was my ultimate adventure. Glad to see you cover up - I've had 3 bazel cells cut out on my face and one melanoma on my upper shoulder. If you go down Maxwell you'll pass right by a Petroglyph panel that's along WCC - Happy Trails

That's impressive. We are planning on having our next tent be a dyneema single wall tent. The Durston is definitely a contender.

Good to know. Thanks for the info!

Flash flood risk management is the responsibility of the hiker in this canyon. The risk is very real. We watch the weather in the area using the Clime app. It is the best real time localized one we have found. There is a little bit of signal at the trailhead if you have Verizon. That said, it’s impossible to check weather from inside the canyon. Our favorite campsite is near a good escape route, and that is on purpose. We always carry our Garmin just in case we get stranded and need emergency assistance. Another app that I find useful is called River. It shows the flow and depth of most creeks in the area, and you can look at historical data to see if it is deeper than you are used to. Ultimately, you need to have a Plan B and the good sense to ditch this hike if you are even a little bit worried.

Glad you enjoyed it!

I’ve read that enlightened equipment has the same issue, but I would trade a few extra ounces to not have this problem.

Thank you!

We made it! Woo-hoo!

@@shutupandhike good for you!! I have not made a video in a while and they are still tossing a few dollars my way.. keep it up.

When the weather is good, it looks like a tropical paradise (although the water is very cold).

Thanks for watching! It is definitely one of the most beautiful places in the US!

Don’t worry, almost nobody watches our videos 🤣

part if me wants to agree with you but as my great great grandfather John L fish founder of the lakeside area, he said sometimes having some new people around can't be that all that bad.. I replied without hesitation and said ya well if we could screen them and make sure they're like minded people..lol.. but unfortunately we can't and that's why part of me agrees with ya to a point

@shutupandhike you guys get an automatic pass as far as I'm concerned you guys look like your fun to be around and you guys know what respect is especially in the outdoors which is all I need to know to get a pass from me

A lot of people make similar comments on our other videos, telling us to stop showing everybody where all the cool spots are. I figure if it's on AllTrails and RUclips and easily located on Google Maps, I'm not really giving away any secrets. But still, I do sympathize with these comments. The internet has made it really easy to explore the wilderness, and it must be frustrating for people who had to do it the hard way. And now, because it's so easy, you have annoying desert dwellers like me coming around and making stupid videos. We do try to leave places cleaner than we found them, and we are starting to create videos that encourage others to do the same. So hopefully, if somebody visits the White Mountains because of this video, they will be respectful guests to your home. I ultimately want people to get out there and experience the amazing wilderness that is all over Arizona. For me, it's everything. Living in Phoenix is hard. It's hot, dirty, and crowded. But, in addition to our local desert mountains (that are too hot half the year), you can drive for a few hours in almost any direction and ascend a REAL mountain and find trees and streams and fresh air and life, and it's less expensive than therapy.

@shutupandhike I do agree I have a home also in gilbert because my family after they closed down Southwest lumber my dad started building custom basement homes down in the valley including one for us to come and go while growing up making working in the summertime a must at age 13 so when I was able to legally drive I was taking my friends I made down there and took them up ther for weekends to escape the heat and alot of my friends were shocked by the temperature change which led to quite a few families getting ther own places up ther over the years.. im not against people discovering it but I'm against the type of people that just do whatever they want and they don't respect the land and tge people which I think is a common courtesy thing which unfortunately there are a few more than one might think which those people can got somewhere else imo.. the white mountains is sacred in a way because it's shared with alot of reservation land that welcome people to enjoy their land also and only ask to please stay out of and off ther certain sacred areas that are burial sites and what not that's why ther marked off limits on maps and by signs as you wonder about but other than that I'm all for people getting out and seeing some of Arizona's best kept secrets I only ask that you do it with respect and leave it either the way you found it or better it's not too much to ask I love your guys videos and you guys do a very good job of showing the way to enjoy it so it can remain that way for generations to come

Subaru can call us and offer a replacement car if they want…..

I’m sure you could, but we didn’t see any campsites. I wouldn’t backpack near the trail because it’s too popular. Maybe if you explore past the end of the trail you could find some seclusion.

Unfortunately no. Further upstream, near Point Trail and Maxwell Trail, we have seen bear poop, and near Maiden Falls we have heard mountain lions, but we have yet to actually see any large mammals at West Clear Creek.

Growing up in that area sounds awesome. We would like to live near the White Mountains someday.

@shutupandhike it's definitely seems like it's not part of the same state as down in the valley, I have a house in gilbert too and it's strange you can hardly get a neighbor to wave back at ya let alone say hi.. it didn't use to be that way, but anywhere I go up there everybody has nothing but time it seems and will wave & talk your ear off about anything if you let them.. lol.. anyways I enjoy your videos and never hesitate to move there if you find a deal or a way take it

We welcome all comments and we love bunnies, but not for dinner 😆

Thanks! We had fun making this one 😁

The fact that a permit isn’t required is one of the best things. They require actual planning, and that’s a pain. Didn’t know that about crawdads!