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Water Repellents for Brick Buildings
Water is weird…and I point this out in an admiring manner… Water by itself is weird…it is a “polar molecule, think “tiny magnets," but when it changes phase from a liquid to a solid or from a liquid to a vapor, the weirdness goes to levels that mere mortals are left shaking their heads.
Freeze-thaw damage, spalling, and efflorescence are related in an amazing, strange way. In freeze-thaw damage, water changes from a liquid to a solid. In spalling and efflorescence, water changes from a liquid to a vapor.
Water repellents will help slow this, but water repellents cannot stop it alone. Flashing, drainage, and other water management tools are still the most important ingredients. Water repell...
Freeze-thaw damage, spalling, and efflorescence are related in an amazing, strange way. In freeze-thaw damage, water changes from a liquid to a solid. In spalling and efflorescence, water changes from a liquid to a vapor.
Water repellents will help slow this, but water repellents cannot stop it alone. Flashing, drainage, and other water management tools are still the most important ingredients. Water repell...
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Ice Dams and R-Value of Snow
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Ice dams happen when the outside temperature is below freezing, the roof deck temperature is above freezing, and there is snow on the roof. The warm roof deck causes the snow on top of the roof deck to melt, and the melt water runs down to the roof's edge, where the water freezes, leading to a buildup of ice and a backup of water, hence the term “dam." Learn More: buildingscience.com/documents/...
Building Code v. Best Practices: Who's the Boss?
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When I was a young punk kid in my 20s and thought I was a builder, the local building official would show up on my project site before I screwed up - he kept me out of trouble - he taught me enough building science that I became hooked. I was an engineer with a big-time degree from a big-time school, but I did not know what I did not know. I respect building officials big time. That is why I am...
Cup of Joe - Capillarity in Concrete and Wood
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Both materials are porous and, therefore, wick or suck water. Small pores can suck water to a greater height than large pores. Materials with the tiniest pores suck the most. Did you know that concrete has very tiny pores? Same with the capillary size of wood fibers. Turns out that tree height is limited by the height that the capillaries can suck water. We owe Lord Kelvin and his equation for ...
10-Year, 100-Year and 1,000 Year Buildings (Keith Simon 2024)
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From the Westford Symposium XXVI - August 5, 6, and 7, 2024 Keith Simon, FAIA is an architect, VP of Design Phase Services for Salas O'Brien, and adjunct faculty at the UT-Austin School of Architecture. He has some thoughts on how to design buildings to last for an extremely long period of time. As a Fellow of the AIA, he has some strong opinions on some of the priorities of architectural firms...
Passive-Regressive: Tales from the CUNY Building Performance Lab (Duncan Prahl 2024)
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From the Westford Symposium XXVI - August 5, 6, and 7, 2024 Duncan Prahl is an architect and the Director of Technical Services at the CUNY Building Performance Lab. He will share research projects and results conducted by the team at CUNY BPL...such as how well do those thousands of buildings in NYC actually perform and are those energy audits in NYC actually leading to any retrofits?
Saving Affordable Homes (Julie Klump 2024)
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Preservation of Affordable Housing (POAH) is a nonprofit developer, owner and operator of 20,000 affordable homes in multifamily buildings in twelve states and the District of Columbia. Julie is an architect and Vice President of Design and Building Performance for POAH. She has been involved in the retrofit and rehabilitation of thousands of existing homes and multifamily buildings and the des...
Passive House and The Shifting Energy Landscape (Andrew Steingiser 2024)
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From the Westford Symposium XXVI - August 5, 6, and 7, 2024 Andrew is an architect with RDH in Boston and a graduate of the School of Architecture at Syracuse University. As Passive House is applied to multi-family buildings things get interesting...that is an understatement...there is more...wait till we look at schools...Phius and TEDI do not always get along...Andrew will help put things in ...
The Graphic Language of Drawings (Steve Baczek 2024)
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From the Westford Symposium XXVI - August 5, 6, and 7, 2024 Steve Baczek is an architect who understands communication, communication, and communication. Did I mention communication? The communication is verbal, graphical, artistic and sometimes "telepathic". There is a beauty in the details. Also note that sometimes the devil is in the details.
Load-Based Testing Of Heat Pumps (Bruce Harley 2024)
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From the Westford Symposium XXVI - August 5, 6, and 7, 2024 Bruce Harley has an undergraduate degree in electrical engineering from Worcester Polytechnic Institute and was the technical director of the Conservation Services Group for many years. Most of his recent work is related to heat pumps. He points out that heat pumps can accomplish a lot, but there are many potential pitfalls; we need to...
Conservation Of Mass and Other Crazy Ideas (Kent Browning 2024)
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From the Westford Symposium XXVI - August 5, 6, and 7, 2024 Kent Browning, PE is a principal of KWR Engineering Services, Austin, TX and has been commissioning buildings before commissioning buildings was called commissioning buildings. Kent keeps seeing the same kind of problems over and over again. He has several guidelines that general contractors and normal folks can use to indicate if a bu...
Thermal Energy Storage In High Performance Buildings (Marc Rosenbaum 2024)
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From the Westford Symposium XXVI - August 5, 6, and 7, 2024 Marc Rosenbaum, P.E., received a BS and MS from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. He is the Founder and Principal of Energysmiths and built his first superinsulated house in 1978. Marc will discuss how energy storage both thermal and electrical aids grid penetration of renewables and builds resilience on-site. Mass...not the s...
MgO - Magnesium Oxide Sheathing Panels - no sweat..sweet (Adam Broderick and Aaron Grin (2024)
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From the Westford Symposium XXVI - August 5, 6, and 7, 2024 Adam Broderick is a Research Scientist and Aaron Grin is a Global Residential Applications Technology Leader - both are with DuPont Building Solutions. Is MgO a game-changer? It had issues in the past. Not any more. They will cover test huts, environmental chambers and “sweating” boards in Denmark.
Not Being Passive About Passive House (Tessa Bradley 2024)
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From the Westford Symposium XXVI - August 5, 6, and 7, 2024 Tessa Bradley is a principal of the Artisans Group, Olympia, WA. The Artisans Group combines building science and elegant design. Tessa will present on low-carbon solutions, energy efficiency, net-zero Passive House designs and retrofits.
Adhesion (Foster Lyons 2024)
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From the Westford Symposium XXVI - August 5, 6, and 7, 2024 Foster Lyons is a chemical engineer, builder and building science consultant to architects. Foster points out that there is not a single structure, in the history of structures, that does not have something adhered to something else. Yet, adhesion is a topic fraught with misunderstanding and misconception. Why is it so hard to break co...
Is AI BS? (John Straube and Robert Bowerman 2024)
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Is AI BS? (John Straube and Robert Bowerman 2024)
Forensic Engineering Of Building Enclosures and Facades (Brian Hubbs 2024)
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Forensic Engineering Of Building Enclosures and Facades (Brian Hubbs 2024)
Lessons From 70 Years Of Building Science Field Investigations (Hartwig Kunzel 2024)
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Lessons From 70 Years Of Building Science Field Investigations (Hartwig Kunzel 2024)
Mortar Drops Can Cause High-Pressure Water Leaks
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Mortar Drops Can Cause High-Pressure Water Leaks
Is 50% Relative Humidity The Right Amount?
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Is 50% Relative Humidity The Right Amount?
Below-Grade Waterproofing for Deep Foundations, Peter Baker (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
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Below-Grade Waterproofing for Deep Foundations, Peter Baker (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
Multifamily Buildings and Summertime Humidity, Kohta Ueno (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
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Multifamily Buildings and Summertime Humidity, Kohta Ueno (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
Technical Fixes-Another Government Program (Andy Padian at Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
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Technical Fixes-Another Government Program (Andy Padian at Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
Roofs and Pressures: Learning From Mistakes, Matt Dupuis (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
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Roofs and Pressures: Learning From Mistakes, Matt Dupuis (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
Residential Net Zero - New Construction & Retrofit, Betsy Pettit (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
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Residential Net Zero - New Construction & Retrofit, Betsy Pettit (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
IAQ Management w/a Human Health Score, Dr. Stephanie Taylor (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
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IAQ Management w/a Human Health Score, Dr. Stephanie Taylor (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
Florida Hurricane Damage: What Works-Joe Smallwood & Greg Brisson, Building Science Summer Camp 2023
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Florida Hurricane Damage: What Works-Joe Smallwood & Greg Brisson, Building Science Summer Camp 2023
Historic Retrofit: Mass Building, Stephen Vanze & Sydney Katz (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
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Historic Retrofit: Mass Building, Stephen Vanze & Sydney Katz (Building Science Summer Camp 2023)
Perfect wall is the wall where you can't make a mistake. Use i.e. foamed glass insulation under the ground and hempcrete above. In general, nature had enough time to learn how to deal with vapour, mimic it. And one more thing, best vapour control is ventilation. Thank you.
Thank you for sharing all this great data! Sure gave me a few more things to ponder, but I am also confident that I am on the right track.
Having followed Super Joe since the 1980’s these short clips are perfect for driving home an essential point. In snow country you need a cold roof to prevent ice dams.
The god father of Building Science. I appreciate this man and his body of work.
Thats it?
Love the comment about the Recycle Bins, you know us Canadians!
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Interesting information!
V2B, or Vehicle-to-Building is an interesting concept.
Interesting presentation!
Every aspect of life should be taken into account when planning a structure. Light, heat, fresh air, vermin, fire, mold, risk zones (earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes) accessibility, impact on neighbors, solar access, and cost amongst others.
I made the move from architecture to local government a few years ago and so many frustrating AHJ behaviors make more sense now. My biggest takeaway is that I often had months or years of time on a project by the time we submitted for permit but the city only gets it for a few weeks. Every request that seemed to come out of left field was actually people trying to accommodate me but it felt like obstruction at the time because I had so much more time to get comfortable with the project.
What this doesn't take into account, is that mortar is absorptive and the same idea of pressure will occur with water "pushing" into the mortar droppings due to hydrostatic pressure. So we typically don't have mortar droppings like that shown in the video, especially when trained craftworkers are used.
When water is absorbed in brick or mortar it is held in the pores of the brick or mortar by capillarity...which actually is more powerful than gravity...so there is no hydrostatic pressure from the mortar droppings acting on the water control layer or the sheathing or nail holes...or whatever.... Where you are completely totally correct is that where you have trained craftworkers you don't have mortar droppings that cause serious issues. The problem for engineers, architects and contractors is finding those trained craftworkers. As a result, I recommend assuming you don't get them and therefore you should provide a drainage mat or a draining wrap over the water control layer....If you have those trained craftworkers be incredibly good to them...pay them extremely well...take them to dinner...give them tickets to sports events....etc...etc...etc..
The U.S. Gov tested buildings to see what would hold up best for earthquakes and fires..Earthbag and strawbale homes rated the best.. why aren’t we finding more efficient ways of building to be more prepared for natural disasters? There is a hurricane, tornado, wild fire, earth quake, flood, ice storm, mud slide, snow storms, etc somewhere all year long anymore!! Be it Natural disasters or mad made Disasters.. it’s become a frequent problem in our country.. Isn’t it time to start building smart to better prepare for whatever the future throws at us?
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Excellent presentation!
Being calm and respectful has definitely helped me out in the past. I had a situation where we were trying to get a final on an addition to a structure. The field inspector that came out for the final was not the one we had been seeing for all the other stages. He threw a temper tantrum and red flagged everything saying the other inspector didn't know what he was doing. I asked politely if we could escalate the decision to the chief inspector. The guy decides to call in right then so the chief could give me the 'what for' in real time. I pleasantly got to sit there and listen to the chief set the field inspector straight in no uncertain terms. We got our green sticker and final/CO that day😂.
Comments are a little out of scope: I have drafted and submitted permits for specialized industrial equipment with high safety/fire risks and this is sound advice. Not everyone knows everything. On the flip side I have had fire chiefs just flat out say 'I will not allow any equipment that is not of this type in this application' which is super annoying and we walked away from small jobs sometimes. On the bigger jobs, we got local licensed engineers to provide more detail on the safety and applicability of the equipment and when the money is there it was worth it. We would typically look for a local engineer(or firm) on those projects as well. Because it helps if the entire plan/approval/end user team can see the site and talk through the entire project. They really are a team too, you're all on the same side. I've also seen some absolutely silly permit resubmitted requests over what I can only chalk to the outsourced approval team verifying their cost to the city.
Its called humility.
Absolutely!! As a former AHJ I totally agree with you on this. On the inverse, some code officials need to be humble about their position and be willing to listen. That’s why it’s very important to be respectful and build a good rapport and reputation with the jurisdiction.
Wow, so well explained for something I had never considered before. Thank you. May I ask that if I were to build my house using the same techniques and materials as a commercial warehouse that has used zero brick and mortar in its construction can I survive a hurricane
Yes, lots of wood frame and steel frame structures in Florida and the gulf coast handle hurricanes...when done correctly....note the words "when done correctly". One of the foremost experts is David Prevatt at the University of Florida...his university also has a pretty good football team named after a reptile...
When I was at uni in the early 1990s. Most of the books on passive heating / thermal ma's were from the USA. I feel the good work got lost in the USA through politic noise and mass cheap housing. From the UK perspective MAS uSA housing appears cheap and not designed to last in a mild climate. Let alone the actual US climate of hurricanes, flooding, tornados. Which appears strange. I feel my profession of RICS building Surveying has lost it way. We are no longer paying attention to building science.
So do plans tell a story? Or do they convey a design pattern?
A gentleman would rescue a man trapped in a well, but he would not jump in himself. He is not perfect, but he is not stupid, either. - Confucius, Spring and Autumn Period Good advice from Dr. Joseph Lstiburek: The Harvard School of Public Health is recommending that we maintain interior relative humidity between 40 and 60 percent during the winter. I’m not arguing with the health science basis for this, just the building science basis for this: Relative humidities this high in houses are going to be a killer in cold places where we have winter. Yes, bad pun…
One of the best presentations I have ever seen at summercamp.
Capillary rise stops at about 33 ft (10 m), you need to check *Jurin's Law.* There is a force upwards due to the contact angle between water and the material (wood, brick, concrete, mortar,...) and there is a force downwards due to gravity acting on the water column which leeds to a higher water pressure at the fee water surface (your bucket). A higer water pressure at the free water surface level means a water pressure below 1 atm at the top of your capillary water column (equilibrium). And because you can not go below absolute vacuum, the height of your water column is limited to 33ft or 10m. _Trees can grow above 33 ft because of _*_internal_*_ evaporation (day) and condensation (night)._
You might want to look into negative presssures in biological systems.
@@PurePremium2 Yes and those who "believe" in negative pressures will tell you that you can pull on a liquid as if it's a solid. If negative pressures where possible in a liquid, we wouldn't have cavity in centrifugal pumps. Once you reach a very low pressure, water will start to boil at room temperature...
LaPlace-Young and Kelvin make it clear that Jurin is incorrect.
@@JoeLstiburek 1. The Kelvin-law is thermodynamical law and thermodynamical laws can not be used on their own to describe a physical phenomenon (like capillary rise). 2. The Kelvin-law describes how the vapor pressure will change *AFTER* the liquid surface has become spherical. 3. The Kelvin-law *does not discribe how that spherical surface has been or will be formed.* Such a surface is the result of the surface tension of a liquid and the hydrophilic property of a material. 4. The Jurin-law is a physical law and gives the relation between the surface tension, the liquid density the rising height and the radius of the capillary tube. And yes, the radius is also in the denominator which would indicate that the rising height goes to infinity when the radius goes to zero. 5. But other physical laws like hydrostatic pressure in a liquid column and that no pressure can be lower then the absolute vaccum are still valid even though they don't appear in the formula of the capillary rise. *These two laws cap off the maximum rise to about 10m or 33 feet.* It's like the buckling formula of Euler which gives the maximum normal load a column can take, that load is also limited by the maximum allowable compressive tension of the material even though that tension doesn't show up in the formula.
The passive house community could have saved a lot of time had they appreciated the influence of thermal effusivity sooner. The thermal mass doesn't contribute to regulating comfort over diurnal scales if there's insufficient area or if it's not conductive enough. This becomes obvious with highly variable solar gain or occupancy rates. Passive thermal regulation of a higher density, more conductive, internal lining systems, on a lightweight, highly insulated, timber frame structure, would contribute more to comfort than having a less well insulated mass wall system with a typical paper faced gypsum. Beyond that, you need active systems. There are some fascinating properties of thermal storage that make it really compelling for larger deployments: - The surface to volume ratio improves with scale, which translates to better cost per unit storage. - Heat loss is proportional to surface area, so it becomes more efficient at storing heat over long durations at scale. - When the full capacity of the storage system is not required, heat can be stored at lower temperatures using the full volume of the storage system, so the heat pump is more efficient and higher power output - meaning the cost of the stored energy is lower (unlike batteries where the charge state doesn't influence the cost of the energy.) - Water can be used as a storage medium and a working fluid, allowing direct mass transfer for efficient, high power, heat exchange. The problem is that the heat pump requires higher power output to exploit super off-peak periods of electricity. We still design heat pumps to meet peak instantaneous loads, which will be much lower than the power outputs required to store heat in advance to utilized peak PV or super off-peak rates on a variable tariff. This makes air sources more difficult to justify. We'd need an environmental source of heat to have their own TES, with liquid to liquid heat pumps running off water sources, or geothermal, or some hybrid solar thermal assisted reservoirs. Then there's the temperature range you can satisfy with a single heat pump refrigeration cycle, CO2 systems have a naturally high range, but perhaps cascade heat pumps would be better. Then there's seasonal variability in heating and cooling, I haven't seen thermal stores that can switch from heating in one season, to mixed heating and cooling in the shoulder seasons, to cooling only in summer. If anyone finds are good system design, let me know. E.G. Many configurations. I like Harvest Thermal's approach with C02 heat pumps. But there's also interesting liquid to liquid systems out there too: hydrosolar.ca/collections/liquid-to-water-geothermal-heat-pump-1/products/liiquid-to-water-dc-inverter-heat-pump-geo040v1lm-40-mbh-131-f-hot-water Case study with air source, PVT and high temp solar thermal: hydrosolar.ca/blogs/case-analysis/living-off-the-grid-with-solar-and-air-to-water-heat-pump
42:45 did I hear a gunshot?
LOL....a flip chart fell....the presentation was not in downtown Chicago...
@@JoeLstiburek okay thanks, haha.Are you going to put this past summer's summercamp-2024 presentations on RUclips? I really think these are great, thank you for posting the ones so far!
Cool! I see summercamp-2024 videos on youtube! Thank you for posting! Much appreciated!
A building legend indeed. I sure wish he had been writing 20 years earlier than he did. It would have saved me from a lot of mistakes.
"I`m a legend". Indeed he is. I am so glad I got "Moisture Control For Residential Buildings". It is the first video, his knowledge is only passed by his writing humour. Even for a Montreal resident.
I can sit there and listen to this man talk all day. how is he so good at making supposedly boring subjects so interesting 😂
shut up, you dont have any idea, what this genius did o still do for the building science. !!! bit of respect!!!!
Thanks, Joe! Much better audio than previous endeavors. Always appreciate your Insight.
Well there you go!!! you've got to be anally retentive and insane to get it right. I just need to find an asshole of a partner and we can start a business and get rich whilst liberating Russia and the Islamic world!!
Okay, but isn't the insulation closed-cell foam and therefore waterproof? So maybe no vapor barrier is needed at all?
Fascinating and eye opening. Any real-life examples of this causing damage? Or are you only getting hockey pucks stuck behind brick in Canada?
Most brick veneers have lots of mortar droppings and do not drain effectively...it is so bad in the US and in some places in Canada that I always insist on installing a drainage mat over the WRB or fluid applied sheathing in the "alleged" airspace behind the brick veneer. This is a big deal in multistory assemblies.
@@JoeLstiburek That bad huh? Damn. I agree that a drainage mat could only help, but I would love to see some forensic investigation showing the damage that could cause.
Please tell me more about this advanced hockey puck math system :-p
You’re the man Joe. You’re doing the Lords work.
Alas...It will never compare to the Great Wall of China.
Ah yes, Joe forgot the most important part, the Mongol Control Layer.
I guess a better question would be , "Joe, what is your preferred RH in residential applications and why?"
You always want to avoid 80 percent at a gypsum board surface to avoid capillary condensation via adsorbed water to control mold. That is the reason that for many decades ASHRAE and others recommended no higher than 60 percent in the air to avoid 80 percent at the surface. In terms of health Stephanie Taylor is the only one who has done work that I trust and she recommends 30 to 40 percent to help deal with issues relating to the alveoli function in the lower respiratory system. In cold climates during winter months I typically recommend 30 percent. In hot humid climates I recommend 60 percent. Note that this is for residential/commercial occupancy. For special use occupancies such as art galleries, swimming pools, ice rinks, data processing centers, hospitals things are very different. Here is the "warning"...in many cold climate residences/commercial occupancies even 30 percent will get the enclosure into trouble....and wait till we retrofit these places listening to activists rather than folks who actually know math and physics...and you already know how I feel about humidifiers...you have to used distilled water and clean them every week or they act like bioweapons...pay attention to the Mayo Clinic not those other folks...
@JoeLstiburek Would you say that RH needs to be constant, or fluctuat with the seasons?
@@garrettscott4094 Fluctuate with the seasons...except in special use occupancies such as hospitals, art galleries, data processing centers, chip manufacturing factories, you get the idea..
Awesome, I'm gonna go read that study you mentioned now. Hahaha
Rrminds me of a cooking story. You always cut the end of the hambone off before cooking it in the oven.... Grandma didn't have a pan long enough. Context matters
Joseph Lstiburek is without a doubt the most notable individual in regards to everything regarding Building Science. That being said it's the Smithsonian not Smithstonian.
My big time language error...LOL...sones vs stones...
It’s also “in regard to”, not “in regards to”. 🙂
I'm left with more questions than answers!
It doesn't matter... just keep it where you feel yourself comfortable (inbetween 35 and 75%).
about 50% more questions? :)
@@koenraadprincen7212 Fair enough!
Goodness ... so much info for someone building a new home! Is passive building overly expensive? I'm building with Omni Block. I'd sure like support with the build to make it as passive as possible. 5k min for consulting is pretty steep.
Are there viable options for adding to an existing wall from the outside?
Cold roof decks, Europeans have been successful at venting the cold roof deck for a long time, How? Permiter edge vent, along with mushroom vents. They have studied it for years and the venting along with very good vapor retarders and installation, and paying close attention to sealing, these techniques stop the condensation, Venting is a must 2" minimum space. (yes cold climate, vented flat roofs, insulation from below or "cold roof") they got (or can get) it to work, why because many times they must use a cold roof technique since they retrofit buildings that are hundreds of years old. (they also screw up, but again it is about the sealing and craftsmanship) The big problem here is that the mechanical system must move down into its own interstitial space.
According to the Insulation Institute, R-13 insulation is the minimum value to stop condesation from forming on surfaces.
The average HVAC system with flex duct and duct board here in Austin, Texas, is about .75 E.S.P. This study proves, yet again, that if the flexible duct design and installation is completed with care, flex works. However, I do not advise the use of duct board or more than 25% flex.
My great grandfather built his house in the 1930s based on Sears-Roebuck plans, using lumber another house he disassembled. I grew up in that house and my parents still live there. I hope I can someday give it a deep energy retrofit like this one.
Truly a living legend
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