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@@RobinCapper I took the term to Europe in the winter and flew to Chch in August a in Hardcase suitcase. Not the Tern one but a very large Samsonite. It was so easy compared to taking a normal bike.

Balls clearing had heaps of room

@@garydye4270 Yes they are public access. They are run by DOC. Absolutely lovely.

@@ngairekissick6124 thanks Ngaire, it was a great ride and the hot pools were the icing on the cake.

@@paulfuller7832 I've done it on the Kawasaki a few times. We see allot more on the pushys.

Thanks for the comment. Yes it's lovely riding all through there.

Thanks for the comment. Yes it's rather sad. We did 450km in Europe this year and saw more rubbish and broken glass in 3.5km back home.

@@brianbrown5931 I believe it. A lot of tourists and visitors to NZ must be quite shocked when they arrive here.

@@mrpaisleyshirt very true. Not so green clean.

Do ride ebikes or manual. Bikes?

@@rowanhuckstep6943 the ladies ride ebikes Nick and I are on standard bikes.

@@MegaSixpac that is so true asked you see so much more and more people. Thanks for the comment.

@@pamcampbell2161 it was. The cycling infrastructure in Europe is amazing as is the scenery.

@@lynnemccarthy-my5mi hrs the cycling infrastructure is amazing. Sometimes we thought it was over there top, but great for us to ride on.

@@lynnemccarthy-my5mi yes Lynne it was all of those. Thanks for the comment.

@@helenwenley5715 thanks for the comment. Yes the scenery was stunning.

@@smiles_per_hr6408 yes we've ridden it but not all the way to Ohura but as part of a loop from the Doc camp on the Forgotten highway. Actually I think I've done it 4 times on the bike and 3 times on the motorbike it's so lovely. Fiesta Fare is something special. Thanks for the comment it's greatly appreciated.

@@FransVanBuel sorry about that. The spell checker changes it. No big deal as you obviously know what was meant. I'll double check in the future.

@@bernadettenanayakkara7275 we're based in Rotorua. It's not really a group, just friends riding together. But if anyone with the same relaxed social attitude wants to come along that's fine.

@@backcountryridingfriends great thanks. I am a Rotorua local too and love nature and into hiking but loves biking too.

@@bernadettenanayakkara7275 allot of our rides are based out of our mobile homes or Caravans and are quite often based at an NZMCA park. Do you belong to the NZMCA and have a van or caravan. We meet most Sundays for a road ride in the Rotorua area, normally 35 to 60km. If you'd like to join us and see how it goes, your be most welcome. We're away this Sunday but home for next Sunday if you'd like to join us. We always have a coffee sometime during the ride. Cheers PS we're all retired and most of the ladies and some of the guys are on E assist bikes. There normally some of us on normal bikes.

@@007Gofer Thanks for the comment. It was a lovely ride and the company makes it that much better.

@@SHNTRU sorry, no we didn't.

Thanks Tony. Not up to the standard of yours though.

Thanks for your comment.

It's a great ride. Thanks for the comment.

My pleasure.

I don't know about inspirational, but it was hard work, but beautiful.

Doing my best

Yes we're all from Rotorua, but it's not really a group you join. We're just friends who ride together and use the name so I don't have to change the credits every time I make a video.

Yes. The gravel was perfect.

We've ridden Fishers track twice going up it, loaded, on our Horopito loops. Hillary was pleased to get to the top but Sue and I didn't find it that hard. We were all on non ebikes then. Now Sue is on an ebike. Enjoy.

That's reassuring, thanks Brian. So I think the final route from Owhango will be Oio Rd, Upper Retaruke Rd, Fishers Track, Marton Sash & Door Track and SH4 to either Ohakune or Raetihi on the way to Whanganui 😂 Should be a good taste of that area without the toothpaste-mud of the 2 hard-core tracks. Cheers.

Sounds great.

It certainly is.

Thanks. Yes it should. Typo error. I'll see if I can correct it.

Done

Thanks John. I hope you both are keeping well

Thanks for commenting. I must admit I thought camping at the lake would've been magic. It looked so beautiful. Ride safe.

Thanks for the comment. The views are magnification aren't they.

Hillary and I were on pedal bikes, Sue, Liz and Ross on E assist bikes.

Funny you should ask this question as only a few ago I enquired about staying one night in any of the Blue Duck accommodations. They got back to me very promptly. They normally only provide accommodation for 2 or more nights. I can't remember the exact figure, but it was around $360 for 2 people. How ever they do sometimes do a one night if it works with staff etc. They said they could do us one night for around $260 for a room in a lodge. That was outside our budget so we didn't take it any further. We were to provide our own food for that. Email them they are very prompt repliers. I hope this helps.

I realised I didn't answer the second part of your comment. That would be a great ride. From Owhango you could ride straight to National Park, either along Kaitieke Valley Rd to Raurimu then about 7km on SHW4, which is what we did in the next video. Or you could go to National Park view Fishers track as we did in the Horopito loop video. You can now ride from National Park to Ohakune without going on SHW4. Hope this helps.

Thanks for that info Brian. I think I'll skip Blue Duck Station for the same financial reasons you did. I didn't realise there was a way of biking from National Park to Horopito other than along SH4. Where is it because i assume you're not suggesting riding up those tracks to Ruatiti Rd? Btw, I rode the Old Coach Rd 10 days ago. It's a real bone-shaker and very slow going. I'm looking forward now to seeing your video and description of the Fisher Track.

I'm sorry I put you wrong with an alternative route. I thought it was up and running but it isn't, another year and it should be connected. You'll still have to ride the Old Coach Rd though. Sorry to get your hopes up.

@backcountryridingfriends That's OK. Good to know a track is planned although connecting to the Old Coach Rd may be a mixed blessing. Having just ridden the OCR northbound, I don't fancy it that much the other way. The cobblestones make for a rough ride and the grassy slopes at the southern end are easier to ride safely going uphill. After riding to Horopito, I chose to return to Ohakune on SH4 and Tohunga Rd, (SH49).

Thanks for the comment. I'm not sure where your coming from with the spelling comment. Both Kaitieke and Whakahoro are spent as in Google maps.

Apologies, I thought the places in the video were written (in the captions maybe?) as KaitEIki and WhakOhoro. It's really only an issue when searching online. The spelling does matter then.

I thought I'd done that in this video, at the very beginning and in the description. I'll put more info in the description. Thanks for the suggestion.

I've updated the description of both the video and playlist worth a detailed description of where Kaiteiki is.

Looks like another great ride. Thankyou. We have been talking about doing a few rides in this area, and you provide the information.

@@lynnemccarthy-my5mi yes Lyn a great area. The videos for the other 2 rides will be coming out over the next couple of weeks. But you'll have all the info from Komoot. All of the rides were stunningly beautiful.

Thanks for the comment. Yes it is a lovely area with allot of inter linking roads, both sealed and gravel. We've done numerous other rides in the area having ourselves at Otorohanga.

Thanks for that information. I'll update it on the next video.

Yes it was. Now to find time to do the outlet half.

Thanks Ross. Apart from the 3 punctures it was a great ride.

I'm so pleased you managed to watch the whole thing. Lovely it brought back some memories for you. Thanks for the comment.

Thanks Lyn. It was a great ride, hopefully we'll get the other half done in April.

I'm pleased you enjoyed it. Isn't it stunning scenery all through that area. We were particularly lucky having the fresh snow on the tops. Nothing like snow to make it more spectacular. Happy riding.

I'm pleased you enjoyed it. Isn't it stunning scenery all through that area. We were particularly lucky having the fresh snow on the tops. Nothing like snow to make it more spectacular. Happy riding.

You're most welcome. Just be prepared for some good climbs along with the descents. Enjoy.

Thanks Maggie

Thanks for your comment. Yes an honesty box now days is very rare, especially in that situation. I hope they aren't getting ripped off.

Thanks for the comment. My road bike is by far the easiest on hills. Now days you can normal fit up to 32mm tyres on a road bike. I run 28mm tyres on mine. I can still do smooth gravel etc on it. Enjoy.

It certainly was.

Thanks so much for the comment. I really appreciate it.