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The making of Fire & Ice
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Fire and Ice is a 1983 animated film, a collaboration between Ralph Bakshi and Frank Frazetta, distributed by 20th Century Fox, which also distributed Bakshi's 1977 release, Wizards. The animated feature, based on characters Bakshi and Frazetta co-created, was made using the process of rotoscoping, in which scenes were shot in live action and then traced onto animation cels. The screenplay was ...

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  • @davedfw814
    @davedfw814 5 месяцев назад

    it was a box office flop, and having a second rate illustrator like Frazetta on board didn't help either

    • @fajinu1320
      @fajinu1320 Месяц назад

      what are you even talking about frank frazetta was a god amongst fantasy illustrators

    • @davedfw814
      @davedfw814 Месяц назад

      @@fajinu1320 no he was only a god amongst those who are easily duped; mostly dumb red-necks and art-Nazi brigaders. Fire and Ice was supposed to look like Frazetta's work, but failed to appreciate that Frazetta was not a popular artist outside the very small world of Fantasy. Also the film was rotoscoped so it wouldn't have looked like FF anyways which is quite old fashioned. Presumably Batski though the name would add kudos-it didn't and the film bombed.

    • @davedfw814
      @davedfw814 27 дней назад

      @@fajinu1320 no he was not

  • @juanvaldez7477
    @juanvaldez7477 8 месяцев назад

    I know it, was a rotoscope technique, that's why so amazing literally they do 2 movies, because in that times there no was motion capture or capture softwares, just sweat and tears 😊

  • @bayleighflorence3945
    @bayleighflorence3945 9 месяцев назад

    I love the actress of Teegra screaming 😱😂 4:41

  • @Ghantaa_Comics
    @Ghantaa_Comics 11 месяцев назад

    I wish there were more of these. I am trying to make my youtube series using same technique but with softwares.

  • @Thraka5
    @Thraka5 Год назад

    I didn't see this movie when it first came out but I did see it in the early 90s and was just blown away with the life like movement. It reminded me so much of He-Man when I saw it since He-man used about a dozen or so rotoscoping scenes but thinking this movie was like the epitome of this form of animation.

  • @sajahu8888
    @sajahu8888 Год назад

    이럴바엔 그냥 실사 영화로 촬영하는 게 수고를 덜 듯....

  • @kristinaF54
    @kristinaF54 Год назад

    He-Man was also drawn over photo models acting out the motions like this.

  • @JoeyArmstrong2800
    @JoeyArmstrong2800 Год назад

    Even though it's rotoscoped there's a certain organic energy to this process. Today everything is so perfectly rendered with computers which just sucks the life and personality right out of the animation.

  • @JANXDPDX
    @JANXDPDX Год назад

    the paintings are gorgeous

  • @michelangelo_6933
    @michelangelo_6933 Год назад

    This film is part of my childhood. It’s fucking awesome.

  • @dibujosinlimitesmp
    @dibujosinlimitesmp 2 года назад

    Gurney and Kinkade 👏👏👏🎨🎨

  • @MrRegD
    @MrRegD 2 года назад

    One of my favorite animated films, Bakshi and Frazzetta’s works are amazing.

  • @fenrir-art4742
    @fenrir-art4742 2 года назад

    The movie system is too bland. Should have done this tracing animation based style to help just in case if budget or other issues were in the way. Fire and Ice is awesome.

  • @garethbancroft855
    @garethbancroft855 2 года назад

    Thanks for uploading this. Much kudos and again many thanks for sharing.

  • @shamusteakiawa
    @shamusteakiawa 2 года назад

    This method is like basically making two movies, lol. A real life version and an animated one. So much work!

  • @jenniferhill7224
    @jenniferhill7224 2 года назад

    thank for this as the commentary on the dvd release wasn't the greatest

  • @indirecttim2141
    @indirecttim2141 2 года назад

    Just did the math. If 4 seconds of screen time= 40 hours of work then the movie took 54,000 hours of labor just for the initial drawing

  • @facetina
    @facetina 2 года назад

    An absolute masterpiece. I have the honor of watching this as a kid and studying it when I was in art school. Nothing like this has ever been done before, and since. So detailed and precise. Rotoscoping isn't easy. A lot of hard work and it shows. I'm not even gonna mention the music, acting and vibe, that's the charm of the 80s, but animation wise, this is gold. Pure excellence!

  • @sarahmeagen
    @sarahmeagen 2 года назад

    🤩 thank you!! never seen this before! 🤩🙏

  • @pacalexandrecosta
    @pacalexandrecosta 2 года назад

    This is pure magic!

  • @swedichboy1000
    @swedichboy1000 2 года назад

    I would´ve really loved to see the "Behind the scenes stuff" as in the live action segments before animation. Imagine watching this movie live action.

  • @Godboyzilla1954
    @Godboyzilla1954 2 года назад

    Masters of animation

  • @charlescarver2623
    @charlescarver2623 3 года назад

    That's how they did it. I wish Beowulf was done in this style instead of the cgi.

  • @pitanguirj
    @pitanguirj 3 года назад

    Thank you very much.

  • @JarJarBinks4ever
    @JarJarBinks4ever 3 года назад

    James Gurney spotted

    • @metabaron6664
      @metabaron6664 2 года назад

      I was surprised to find out he worked on Fire and Ice

  • @rajeshrivankar6949
    @rajeshrivankar6949 4 года назад

    All their painstaking efforts were taking forward step to computer animations..thanx to them

  • @trackwalkerfilms
    @trackwalkerfilms 4 года назад

    We need more...2021 Dune should have been made like this.

  • @enzospurlock
    @enzospurlock 4 года назад

    Yep

  • @MrSuicidal69
    @MrSuicidal69 4 года назад

    Thank you so much for posting this super rare footage.

  • @kaybeenullenvoyde9196
    @kaybeenullenvoyde9196 4 года назад

    Thank you. The longhaired layout guy with the deep voice is my spouse of 40 years, Tim Callahan. I am sorry to hear every vestige of this colorful romp is obliterated. BTW, Those 2 hipstery plaid shirted dudes are: Jim "Dinotopia" Gurney and, Tom, Painter-of-Light Kinkade, in their breakout roles. Tim taught me how Frazetta "fingerpainted". and I have utilized it in my work.

    • @Maldunn
      @Maldunn Год назад

      That’s so awesome! They are all so skilled. Thanks for pointing that out I’m a fan of Jim Gurney and Dinotopia especially. I work in cgi vfx and he came and spoke at our studio and he signed my Dinotopia books, it was really cool to meet him in person.

    • @bgccallahan4116
      @bgccallahan4116 Год назад

      @@Maldunn So cool that you connected. It was a fun time. Tim observed Frazetta's painting style, reported that he "fingerpainted" to some degree. I started doing the same. I had scored a gig at Hanna Barbera as a background stylist and utilized that technique in some of my work. (HB was rather experimentla in those days). Good times for us.

  • @jmgmarcus808
    @jmgmarcus808 5 лет назад

    The best part is these two(Bakshi, Frazetta)NEVER SOLD OUT TO DISNEY. God bless both of them, they are two of the most important artists of the 20th and 21st century. RIP Frank. 🙏🏻

  • @kyzr666
    @kyzr666 5 лет назад

    The only thing I hate about Bakshi movies is the sound department. The sound in the actions sequences and the volume of the music is turned down so much for my taste.

  • @FarhanAAzmi-uz3ph
    @FarhanAAzmi-uz3ph 5 лет назад

    ughh, the pains. its hurting your arm more than traditional. sometimes i feel like just grab that knife, stab, cut and pull out that bracioradishitwhatever muscle, that thing in your arm. i think tracing put more strain because you limiting the movement. Salute to the arm and eye of those animator. they did well.

  • @mebobbygillis
    @mebobbygillis 5 лет назад

    The manual "hands on" techniques were so great. It's a tremendous loss that this is gone forever.

  • @KraitoKrombongus
    @KraitoKrombongus 5 лет назад

    the amount of work and creativity it took to make this amazing movie, wow!

  • @T4eva
    @T4eva 5 лет назад

    I totally knew this film was rotoscoped some parts in the beginning with that ice king dude were hand traditional but other than that the entire thing is rotoscoped. Anyone can trace over video footage doesn’t really count as animation to me. But at least it looks pretty cool.

    • @ComicGladiator
      @ComicGladiator 2 года назад

      Anyone, huh? Someone should tell the animators and artists that worked on this that any guy off the street could have put out a similar product.

  • @andreaskarlsson6352
    @andreaskarlsson6352 5 лет назад

    Amazing

  • @benjaminankomah4292
    @benjaminankomah4292 5 лет назад

    Please can u do it a real movie this year i love dis ...fire and ice 2019

  • @johnsalazar3769
    @johnsalazar3769 5 лет назад

    You should of hired Bob Ross LOL Made myself laugh But he was doing his show in 83 So Bill Alexander is probaly a better choice.

  • @summit9475
    @summit9475 6 лет назад

    This was a fairly new way to animate-- it's not my favorite, because you can definitely lose a lot of the imaginative and creative processes of animation. If you're not careful it can look like tracing, and you might as well just FILM the entire thing. But Fire and Ice still manages to be a treasure.

  • @CreatureDesign
    @CreatureDesign 6 лет назад

    For its time this was a landmark process. The true artistry came in taking the rotoscopes and applying the exaggerated drawing styles to the creatures and monsters. Just wonderful !.

  • @rotesil
    @rotesil 6 лет назад

    11:42 she is hot!...

  • @umairusman
    @umairusman 7 лет назад

    yeh, but the boobs

  • @Daywalker777r
    @Daywalker777r 7 лет назад

    So is the original video of the actors acting the parts gone? Or does anyone have a link to that?Tbh I got to see the liberties they took between tiger's ass and the original actresss'.

    • @Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble
      @Jay_Baumans_Stuntdouble 6 лет назад

      I don't know the name of the actress by heart, but if you do a google search for along with fire and ice, you will actually get some rare photo's of her acting her scenes, and I can tell you...the artists took MAJOR liberties with her proportions.

    • @PCCphoenix
      @PCCphoenix 6 лет назад

      Look up Cynthia Leake.

    • @bojangles2492
      @bojangles2492 5 лет назад

      Go to 3:16 and 4:16 of this video ive linked and your answer is revealed, bit of a let down really. ruclips.net/video/8aWzoRLM7r4/видео.html

  • @SoCalFreelance
    @SoCalFreelance 7 лет назад

    Insane how labor intensive that process is. Now animators use motion capture and the computer can fill in between key frames.

  • @hexkwondo
    @hexkwondo 7 лет назад

    thank you for posting this. As someone who is interested in animation this was a real eye opener!

  • @pershing5286
    @pershing5286 7 лет назад

    Oh, so that's why most of the characters didn't have any clothes. They had to read the body movements of the stunt live action actors properly.

  • @zuspadt7991
    @zuspadt7991 8 лет назад

    Wow! Thank you for this gem!

  • @luisantoniobarcelos
    @luisantoniobarcelos 8 лет назад

    Previously there was a concern with quality and great artists made history in the animated film!

  • @misterprickly
    @misterprickly 9 лет назад

    I love how rotoscope (invented by Fleischer Studios, the creators of Betty Boop) allows animated film to achieve a more lifelike feel. My only problem with it, is that (as with mocap in CG film) it can become easily abused.

    • @TheInflicted
      @TheInflicted 9 лет назад

      +Misterprickly Personally, I feel that rotoscoping always produces inferior results to freehanded animation using live action footage only for reference. The whole point of animation is that it puts the rhythm of physical motion entirely within the artistic control of the animator. Rotoscoping removes it again, and the final result will only be as good as the cinematographer who filmed the initial footage. It's a useful shortcut, but it comes at a dear price.

    • @misterprickly
      @misterprickly 9 лет назад

      TheInflicted Oh agreed 100% Rotoscoping is nice and all but it will never replace traditional animation. It's pretty much the mocap of 2D.

    • @zeca1773
      @zeca1773 8 лет назад

      +TheInflicted Tell me an example of an action that the animator would like to do and coundn't do it with rotoscoping.

    • @TheInflicted
      @TheInflicted 8 лет назад

      Zé Luiz Soares It's not that the animator COULDN'T do it, it's that if the animator has just been instructed to trace over the live action footage, his input into the dramatic effect of the sequence is going to be severely limited. Rather than determining the key frames necessary to convey the optimal emotion of a scene, the animator is a slave to following the rhythm of the source footage.

    • @misterprickly
      @misterprickly 8 лет назад

      TheInflicted very true!